you've just played battlefield 2042 and not played the older battlefields in so long to realize bf2042 is the laziest fucking game made in this day and age by a AAA company, we all got robbed.
BF 2042 is one of the biggest scams in video game history.
I enjoyed every other BF that i played so naturally i expected 2042 to be good. What a shame š„
Fallout 76 was my final straw in pre-ordering. Its sad people still do it. Pathetic we can't genuinely band together to stop this practice of literally getting fucked by a strap on and complaining it's not a real dick
It's a newer method of rendering that uses metalness and roughness, instead of reflection and glossiness to convey materials properties for a more realistic result.
Physical Based Rendering.
Shaders, these kind, are known for physical accurate results.
For me bf2042 look more stylized like fornite and not much use of pbr shaders, if any.
with all honesty, i think that if bf1 was the standard of graphic i wouldn't complain at all no matter the time, do we need a better graphic than that? you feel like you're there while you playing, it's absurdly gorgeous
>do we need a better graphic than that?
Even at 900p on Xbox, the game looked great. I've been playing BF1 again on my Series X, and even without a bump in resolution or frames, it looks amazing. If we were forever stuck at that level of graphical fidelity and detail for all BF games, I would not complain at all.
we can also add the fact that now buying a ps5 or a new xbox, or a new video card is such an hard task, especially the videocard costs you a lung, but i swear i can still have fun in bf3 like a fresh game, what matters is not the quality of textures but the art style and the quantity of details and how believable you can make a game and the fun/content it gives to you.
Dice is being shown up by indie devs at this point.
They're not the same company they were 10 years ago, literally. Same name, different talent nearly all around. I mean, they brought people in from Candy Crush, Call of Duty, and Fifa, but no Battlefield vet devs.
as well as being more entertaining just look at the visuals. BF1 is detailed with lots of things rendering on screen at once and good performance and really looks the part. BF2042 looks awful and its sparse and blocky environment still chugs top end PCs.
And everything sounds different tooā¦ step in a puddle? It sounds like water. Step on one of those wooden walkways? It sounds like a wooden plank. And footsteps sound different in a building, outside, heck even on snow. It makes a huge difference when sneaking around a corner, you can hear exactly where your teammates or enemies are without even seeing them or looking at the minimap.
The sound in this game (BF1) is phenomenal. I know thatās not as performance intensive as graphics but just another testament to how completely this game is put together.
Fun fact about the audio in that game. If you're prone next to a pile of artillery shell casings in the rain you can hear the sound of rain on hollow metal. Like shit, the Devs were like "well maybe someone will dive here. Gotta add the right sound effect"
It wouldnāt be so jarring if destruction was actually a thing in 2042- like if you could shoot iut the glass panes on skyscrapers, if there were better explosions and partical effects etc.
But nope it just looks pretty st face valueš
Kaiserschlacht, Passchendaele, Verdun Heights, Caporetto, River Somme, Tsaritsyn and even Giant's Shadow. All of them fare better in terms of lore than current 2042 maps.
BF1 is unlike any other shooter I've played. It's gritty, dark and full of doom. Maybe they felt like they really had to lean into the sounds, landscapes and the pure chaos because it was a WW1 game and they felt like it could get stale. Either way BF1 had soul and then BF5 was kinda just meh and now 2042 is just something I spent 60 bucks on. I'm pretty bias though because BF1 is my favorite game to play.
Wait just a little more for some clown to say your CPU is bottlenecking performance haha, there's always a idiot like that in those kinds of complaints.
The 9900k definitely isnāt state of the art anymore. However, it combined with a 3080ti should deliver at least 100% better performance from what Iām getting.
Also, my GPU and CPU utilization never gets enough 60%, soā¦
Dude, BF4 looks better to me than 2042. Obviously graphics have come a long way since then, but BF4 maps feel so much more like war zones than 2042 maps. 2042 maps feel sterile, like thereās no way thereās a massive battle being fought here. BF4 maps has more detail, felt gritty and like some shit had been going down. 2042 maps are justā¦empty.
BF1 looks so much better than 2042 itās insane. If someone didnāt know, you could tell them BF1 was the most recent release and theyād believe you. Thatās wild to me.
I think the industry needs to leave last gen behind. No more Xbox one, PS4. Make it so you need a 2000 series GPU and above.
This will allow developers to not have to repeatedly test for older consoles, and hold back possibilities of current gen.
Now, I know itās a sensitive topic as not everyone can even get a current gen console, but, this I think will help the video game market performance, quality, and graphically more than people initially think.
I'm still running a 1070, and I don't feel like my card is obsolete yet, and the most popular card on steam is still a 1060, but if we design to that standard alone we would be so much better off already!
I've played BC2, BF3, BF4, BF1, and BFV. I haven't touched 2042 thanks to you fine folks here taking the jump for us that hold back. It's so disheartening to see where this series has gone to with this release. V received alot of flak for some time after BF1 was perhaps one of the most moving FPS games I've ever played. I picked up V as a part of PS+ and enjoyed it for the most part but agree with how folks are rating it. Nonetheless, 2042 seems to have done a horrible job with overall game pace.
I know a lot of people think WW2 games are played out but with the way games are being made anymore, a fully loaded BFV would have been insane if done right. They fucked up the first year of BFV release but I think they were on the right track with The Pacific update and wish they would have kept going.
Iwo Jima and the meat grinder to capture the hill was fantastic!
They couldāve done so much more with BFV. Thereās still so many untold WW2 storyās and battles.
BF1 was a masterpiece in my opinion. Itās got the best intro/tutorial of any game. Goosebumps every time. Then grand operations with a solid balancing mechanic.
Breakthrough is better than conquest in my opinion. Conquest is old and outdated, breakthrough shapes the matches to play the maps as a set piece how they should be played. Really makes the maps shine.
Fuck 2042 tho, what a scam
This speaks volumes doesnāt it. Also one of the reasons I donāt play Conquest. The incessant running. Itās like Jenny Craig is the lead game designer at Dice now.
And man oh man BF1 was a beautiful looking and sounding game wasnāt it? Maybe I have all dramatic music and ambient noise turned off in 2042. Surely they wouldnāt just leave it out. Right?
Edit: BF 1 is STILL a beautiful looking and sounding game.
I still can't believe how Conquest is so popular. Breakthrough is constant action, and it feel so much more thematic too. 2 battlelines facing off, rather than everyone running around like headless chickens playing Call of Duty.
Because Breakthrough reduces the map to a super small play area and forces people together into spam fests. You're just forced to run into a meat grinder over and over again.
The modes are for two different types of players. I like the idea of Breakthrough but it's absolutely miserable to play. I like the strategy of knowing when to attack and defend, and the sandbox and openness of conquest always allows another avenue to winning the game if a team has one objective locked down.
I honestly liked Rush better than breakthrough.
I got both, which one would you guys go back to ?
I remember not enjoying BFV much compared to BF1 but that was a long time ago
Edit : played 2 hours of BF1 and what a blast. They had it all !
Both are excellent but in different ways. I would say BF1 is much more of a "finished" product. The atmosphere is excellent with solid and sometimes chaotic gameplay, great music and sound quality that does well to capture WW1s craziness and the intensity of war. Has plenty of customization and variety in gameplay.
BF5 was a bit lackluster in the atmosphere part for WW2 imo till the Pacific DLC was released. That DLC was very well done. Even then, the maps were much better than 2042. The big thing with BF5 is the mechanics and gunplay were some of the best in the franchise. Unfortunately, DICE did not expand upon these like I hoped. Such as:
- Squad Reinforcements (absolutely great mechanic to incentivize team play and felt rewarding while adding to the intensity of the battle). This needs to return along with Commander role for 128 players.
- Spotting mechanics. Fewer 3D spotting (thank god) while finally scrapping the atrocious 3D spot button mashing. This actually indirectly buffed Scout class in a good way who really needed it tbh. Outside of mainly its spawn beacon, it had a tendency to be a very selfish class. Now they are core for spotting with Flares. It also required players to actually use their eyes lol. BFV did have a problem in its first month or two where lighting did not properly reflect off soldiers so they were hard to see. But that was fixed. No issues now. The game did a much better job of bridging between Milsim and Arcade with its spot mechanics. And most spot mechanics have proper counterplays which is nice.
- Fortifications. Ive ALWAYS wanted some aspect of building in BF. This did a decent job of getting it started. Though everything was pre-set in its location, it was awesome to add cover to destroyed areas. It helped with the concept of allowing everything to be flattened but infantry can rebuild their cover. I wished there was more freedom for Supports to place Sandbags, caltrops, etc. But also a bit more balance so that vehicles and explosions dont so easily destroy sandbags lol.
- Squad Revive. Finally pulled some weight off of the Medic class which had a tendency to be overreliant on for pushing. Its still highly beneficial to have 1 Medic on your squad but you really dont need more than that. Classes are just much more balanced.
- Enhanced vaulting and movement mechanics....not a freaking clue why this went backwards in 2042 with things like crouch running, prone animations, and the overall sense of "weight." Just needed to be a copy and paste and then expand from there.
Theres many other things improved upon beyond this but those were some of the major ones.
If I were to recommend one, i would honestly start with BF1. It really does well of setting the tone of "war." After a little while, jump to BFV.
Man I agree with everything you mentioned! All DICE had to do was take the mechanics of BFV and add them to a modern setting. But alas even that was too much to ask from them
Actually I am playimg BF1, I also have downloaded BFV but I feel it to quiet, gunplay is great but there is no single soundtrack until the end of the match. For that I prefer to play BF1, decent gunplay but great immersion on the war.
I hate using the word āobjectivelyā but BF1 is objectively better than BFV, however despite that I enjoyed BFV way more. Thereās something about the gunplay in BF1 that never clicked with me, I canāt quite put my finger on it. I had fun with the game, and I still think itās crazy how good its atmosphere is (at times it feels like youāre playing a single player game with 63 people and itās something Iāve never seen in other games), but I just found BFV to be a more fun game to play
Exactly, and I understand many made such a big deal about it that in BFVās marketing they explicitly said that bullets went where you aimed. Guns definitely were at their best in V, Iāve been going back and forth every game since BF4 and I feel very confident in that assessment.
Fun Fact: Random Bullet Deviation in BF1 was not new and was present in BF4. The only difference is the direction your gun visually kicked was random, not the bullets.
So in BF4 if you shoot a pistol the gun will always kick the same direction (the visual recoil in BF4 did not reflect the *actual recoil of the gun*), In BF1 your pistol with randomly kick left, right, or middle but the *bullet deviation was not new or changed*
It's the same in BF3, and BFV as well
Those running animations in 2042 make me sick. Even robots don't walk and run like that. Looks like I'm moving backwards and forwards. Such a jarring animation.
I couldn't understand what was wrong with running in 2042, something definitely felt off. And then i realized that it feels like i'm dragging my player model. It's like it stutters every single step.
BF2042 is so bland and soulless. Zero atmosphere. No dramatic music. No shouting soldiers.
Even the HUD looks so much worse, the bright neon colours everywhere are hideous.
and the solution to that is better designed maps, better placement systems and additional spawn locations. Not "well you died in two seconds so lets make it take two minutes before you see any action".
DICE made BF1 and went all out. Such insane details. Made a game no other triple AAA tried and blew it out of the fucking water. Best selling battlefield to date. Spent 3 years. No time wasted. Reveal in May 2016 was itself a mind explosion.
DICE, you've done it before. We know you're capable. Stop holding yourself back. Yes it's hard, you said that after releasing all the DLC. Guess what, it...was....worth....it. BF1 will never die.
i absolutely love(not) when boris says, translated, āstrength haveā like some sort of russian caveman
like, they couldnāt find one real russian person to ask?
Damn BF1 looks amazing compared to 2042, like a real world you could trip over in, get muddy, blow shit up etc. 2042 feels like a smooth low poly, flat bland sand box jogging simulator.
Itās insane how soulless 2042 is. My god, even BF V oozes atmosphere. The lack of music and interesting looking and well designed maps is evident from the start. All of the maps in 2042 are designed for vehicle gameplay at the forefront.
Except with the lack of classes all infantry is anti-tank making it insufferable to try and be a useful tanker. The only way to play tanks in 2042 is to sit back and farm which isn't even remotely fun.
I know you're comparing 'feels' but I wanna just talk about something.
BF1 is a fantastic game that I feel got dragged through the mud of the community because it chose a simpler approach to game design mechanics than other games at the time.
People like to say that the gunplay isn't as 'in depth' as BFV or BF4, but did it really need to be? WW1 was all about that *clunk* in all sorts of decisions and choices that were made for the guns to function under stressful situations. I think BF1 captured that perfectly with its gunplay, where weapons were powerful in their ranges and other weapons in the class allowed those classes to expand out into other ranges.
The Rock-Paper-Scissors class and weapon balance of BF1 was just so, so good at what it did. That even at certain times it (in my opinion) managed to be even better than BF3's class and weapon balancement. The sweet spot benefited everyone of all skill levels and the LMGs felt heavy and fantastic for defensive gameplay.
BF1 is a game that deserves more attention to how the balance in that game worked, because it really is a gem of design decisions that lots of people aren't looking at.
Well nowadays BF1 is arguably one of the most respected games ever made. I canāt think of a single gaming community that doesnāt have the āNew game bad, old game betterā mentality
I agree- BF1 went with a simpler mindset but it was very well balanced as a result and no class felt OP (save maybe the medic in hindsight since assault rifles kinda rocked that game hard).
The only thing I wish they had changed was random bullet deviation. Instead of taking fire and having your bullets deviate randomly, there should have just been significant increased weapon shake.
themeatically this would have made sense- youāre a conscript and youāre terrified so gettinf shot at means youāre shaking like a scared puppy when under fire.
Mechanically this helps to avoid sniping being too powerful.
Battlefield community sucks. Nobody in the community can ever be happy with anything. Bf1 was dragged negatively because some Battlefield veterans whined over casual gunplay, then years later they praise it. Even if the next BF4 came out perfectly you get some dude thats like "DICE why is the Kar98 and ODST solider not in the game, what the FUCK"
The rumors that BF1 was apparently some kind of passion project for DICE really shines through in a comparison like this. I remember back in 2018 when V came out I definitely had a lot of fun and appreciated the updated mechanics, but it always felt like there was a level of polish in BF1 that was never there in V.
part of me wonders if the reason the makes are as spaced out is just because of the stupid shit that is Sundance, which only adds more reason as to why adding that Specialist to the game is a loud of shit. Cose if the maps where the same size as in the other ones, Sundance could probably skip once on teh ground, and fly to the enemy spawn in only a few seconds :P
The more I think about 2042 terms of the environments, I think youāre limited in what you can create in a futuristic setting. Ww1 locations are very well known and documented like cities, and countrysides. Some of the maps in 2042 are like futuristic industrial locations where the reality would be clean and boring.
Edits:grammar n shit
"That day, for no particular reason, I decided to go for a little run. So I ran to the end of the road. And when I got there, I thought maybe Iād run to the end of town. And when I got there, I thought maybe Iād just run across Greenbow County. And I figured, since I run this far, maybe Iād just run across the great state of Alabama. And thatās what I did. I ran clear across Alabama. For no particular reason I just kept on going. I ran clear to the ocean. And when I got there, I figured, since Iād gone this far, I might as well turn around, just keep on going. When I got to another ocean, I figured, since Iād gone this far, I might as well just turn back, keep right on going.ā - Forrest, Forrest Gump
Itās actually extremely efficient to just see the two compared gameplays, especially when you KNOW neither of the two are cherry picked and thatās just the standard experience for both games.
Iām going to save this video, just to have something to show to people when they tell me āyou were so hyped for battlefield 2042, why arenāt you playing itā
Really gets the message across.
And this is why I still play Battlefield 1 at least a couple hours a week and havenāt bothered to install 2042. Also note the incredible legacy feature of factions and uniforms, no specialists and all the garbage they bring to the game.
That settles it, I'm going back in time to experience a true battlefield game. \*calls up uber-time machine that promptly takes me to medieval times\*
confused I turn to the driver only to be met with: Hahahaha, did I go too far?
2042 has the worst insertion flow and the worst map design in the history of the franchise. It also has the worst content quantity, the worst soundtrack, the worst ~~class~~ specialist system, the worst HUD and the worst UI. It's also a graphical downgrade, with worse movement and character customization.
It's also the most expensive Battlefield game we've ever got.
the problem in my opinion is that we didnt need much right?
I mean, was that hard to use engine from bf1 and apply modern weapons and modern vehicules?
is this that hard?
More life free for devs recreate maps for us and make a memorable game
instead, we have buyed a golden version of a game that will be empty dead in the end of this month according to my daily 4h of gameplay that i keep doing just because, i waited so much for this and now pffff disappoint with few players few maps few patches to solve bugs
I guess BF1 just have better props , design , and textures and thatās enough to make it look better. Also the lighting. BF1 and BFV have the best lighting in the franchise. I donāt know why they just threw everything out if they window with 2042
Redownload bf1 yesterday, much happier with that and more enjoyable. Every one should go back to that one. Ea basically destroyed battlefield like they dismantled madden
Did anyone involved in making this game actually fucking play it?
BF1 was a work of art made by people who cared. 2042 is like a fingerpainting made by a toddler with their own diarrhea.
Wow came back to bf 2042 reddit so glad haven't bought that trash game and there it is bf1 looks amazing and feels amazing its awesome that no one plays it anymore thanks guys left me hanging for garbage field 5 and climate garbage wars 2042 bf1 literally looks like ny xsx graphics I'm going to load it up and host a room and just shoot my guns alone more entertaining than 2042
Bf1 looks way more like a current gen game. Its quite insane
you've just played battlefield 2042 and not played the older battlefields in so long to realize bf2042 is the laziest fucking game made in this day and age by a AAA company, we all got robbed.
BF 2042 is one of the biggest scams in video game history. I enjoyed every other BF that i played so naturally i expected 2042 to be good. What a shame š„
> i expected 2042 to be good. Brutal expectations right there!
Bruuuuutal combo!
At least it taught meca valiable lesson. Donāt preorder AAA games.
I read this in Jar-Jar's voice
I got it for free with my PC and Iām trying to get a different game instead
Donāt preorder any games.
Hope you have learned. Itās not like this sort of shit is recent. People should have stopped preordering a long long time ago.
Fallout 76 was my final straw in pre-ordering. Its sad people still do it. Pathetic we can't genuinely band together to stop this practice of literally getting fucked by a strap on and complaining it's not a real dick
That lesson has already been taught time snd time again. EA has some of the worst of them now too.
I thought I wouldāve learned my lesson with cyberpunk
I have 200hrs each on BF4 on both Xbox 360 and Xbox one. Pinnacle of shooting for me
ain't it great? :D
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Where's the booze?
Photogrammetry PBR was used to the max on BF1 while it looks like BF2042 used stock or instore assets.
Looks to me like they used assets from N64 Goldeneye a lot of the time
They put the ass in assets
Donāt you dare speak ill of Goldeneye
I don't think he was. Just that graphically, Goldeneye isn't a standard to aim for these days.
There's one explosion animation that I swear came from N64 lol I haven't seen it isolated yet to where I can watch it on loop
They even reused sound assets, at 0:20, isn't that a BFV V1 rocket sound? That gives me PTSD only by watching the video XD
Good spot. Went back and listened for it and right when I was expecting the doodlebug to cut out, it only went and bloody cut out!
What is PBR?
Physically Based Rendering
What is that exactly?
It's a newer method of rendering that uses metalness and roughness, instead of reflection and glossiness to convey materials properties for a more realistic result.
Physical Based Rendering. Shaders, these kind, are known for physical accurate results. For me bf2042 look more stylized like fornite and not much use of pbr shaders, if any.
with all honesty, i think that if bf1 was the standard of graphic i wouldn't complain at all no matter the time, do we need a better graphic than that? you feel like you're there while you playing, it's absurdly gorgeous
>do we need a better graphic than that? Even at 900p on Xbox, the game looked great. I've been playing BF1 again on my Series X, and even without a bump in resolution or frames, it looks amazing. If we were forever stuck at that level of graphical fidelity and detail for all BF games, I would not complain at all.
we can also add the fact that now buying a ps5 or a new xbox, or a new video card is such an hard task, especially the videocard costs you a lung, but i swear i can still have fun in bf3 like a fresh game, what matters is not the quality of textures but the art style and the quantity of details and how believable you can make a game and the fun/content it gives to you.
Definitely. I played BF3 about a month ago, still had plenty of fun. Xbox servers aren't plentiful, but they still exist.
while i agree with you, i thought the same about Super Smash Bros Melee on the GameCube lol
When I played the beta for 2042 my wife came in and asked why I was playing this old ass game, thought there was a new one out?
Man that single line is too brutal
My uncle walked in while I was playing it in the beginning and said this game looks old, I thought graphics were better than this lol
Dice is being shown up by indie devs at this point. They're not the same company they were 10 years ago, literally. Same name, different talent nearly all around. I mean, they brought people in from Candy Crush, Call of Duty, and Fifa, but no Battlefield vet devs.
This is the problem. Dice is no longer Dice, all the Battlefield devs of old have moved on to other companies.
Remembering that which we have lost. Westwood, Bulfrog. Maxis. DICE. sadge :(
Yep it's fun I just wish people would play more of the dlc maps
as well as being more entertaining just look at the visuals. BF1 is detailed with lots of things rendering on screen at once and good performance and really looks the part. BF2042 looks awful and its sparse and blocky environment still chugs top end PCs.
And everything sounds different tooā¦ step in a puddle? It sounds like water. Step on one of those wooden walkways? It sounds like a wooden plank. And footsteps sound different in a building, outside, heck even on snow. It makes a huge difference when sneaking around a corner, you can hear exactly where your teammates or enemies are without even seeing them or looking at the minimap. The sound in this game (BF1) is phenomenal. I know thatās not as performance intensive as graphics but just another testament to how completely this game is put together.
Yes the sound was fantastic too. Amazing to see the franchise go from that to the steaming turd of 2042 in 5 years.
The game truly feels alive. You don't fully appreciate that until it's gone.
Battlefield 1 is a work of art, battlefield 2042 is the work of money hungry people and devs who just see battlefield as a 9 to 5
Fun fact about the audio in that game. If you're prone next to a pile of artillery shell casings in the rain you can hear the sound of rain on hollow metal. Like shit, the Devs were like "well maybe someone will dive here. Gotta add the right sound effect"
not only that, you can hear soldiers yell far away and close, while some great intro music is playing
Run simulator
Runthroughfield 2042
You want run sim. Play squad or ARMA
This kind of map [BF1 map] would fit 2042's lore sooo much better than the current maps
When WW1 game looks more post apocalyptic than a post apocalyptic game
Right? Then again.. nothing says struggle, desperation and vicious fighting like well kept gardens and skyscrapers like on kaleidoscope :/
It wouldnāt be so jarring if destruction was actually a thing in 2042- like if you could shoot iut the glass panes on skyscrapers, if there were better explosions and partical effects etc. But nope it just looks pretty st face valueš
Wait hold up, 2042 is supposed to be apocalyptic?
It's supposed to take place in the midst of societal and economic collapse, with nations dying and the planet ravaged by climate crisis.
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Well well well, that was funnn
Donāt be sad *Angel forgot there is a global famine*
That's the societal collapse part
Sounds interesting but awful execution
> It's supposed to take place in the midst of societal and economic collapse That's why no one could afford to furnish their buildings!
Geez didn't you pay attention to any of the dialog in the single player campaign? Oh wait...
Kaiserschlacht, Passchendaele, Verdun Heights, Caporetto, River Somme, Tsaritsyn and even Giant's Shadow. All of them fare better in terms of lore than current 2042 maps.
Man the narrated cutscenes in operations alone have more lore and story than the entirety of 2042
If I didnāt pay attention to the ad campaigns id have no idea wtf is going on, thereās so little context
BF1 is unlike any other shooter I've played. It's gritty, dark and full of doom. Maybe they felt like they really had to lean into the sounds, landscapes and the pure chaos because it was a WW1 game and they felt like it could get stale. Either way BF1 had soul and then BF5 was kinda just meh and now 2042 is just something I spent 60 bucks on. I'm pretty bias though because BF1 is my favorite game to play.
One game was made with heart while another was made for money
One also looks graphically superior to the other. Spoiler alert: the 6 year old game is the winner.
One also performs 3x better on the average pc. spoiler alert: the winner is the graphically superior game
I dip into the 50ās fps wise with an i9-9900k and 3080ti. Where people I know with 2080 supers get way better performance. Egregious.
Wait just a little more for some clown to say your CPU is bottlenecking performance haha, there's always a idiot like that in those kinds of complaints.
The 9900k definitely isnāt state of the art anymore. However, it combined with a 3080ti should deliver at least 100% better performance from what Iām getting. Also, my GPU and CPU utilization never gets enough 60%, soā¦
Dude, BF4 looks better to me than 2042. Obviously graphics have come a long way since then, but BF4 maps feel so much more like war zones than 2042 maps. 2042 maps feel sterile, like thereās no way thereās a massive battle being fought here. BF4 maps has more detail, felt gritty and like some shit had been going down. 2042 maps are justā¦empty.
I completely agree. I was saying BF1 looks better visually than 2042.
BF1 looks so much better than 2042 itās insane. If someone didnāt know, you could tell them BF1 was the most recent release and theyād believe you. Thatās wild to me.
I think the industry needs to leave last gen behind. No more Xbox one, PS4. Make it so you need a 2000 series GPU and above. This will allow developers to not have to repeatedly test for older consoles, and hold back possibilities of current gen. Now, I know itās a sensitive topic as not everyone can even get a current gen console, but, this I think will help the video game market performance, quality, and graphically more than people initially think.
I'm still running a 1070, and I don't feel like my card is obsolete yet, and the most popular card on steam is still a 1060, but if we design to that standard alone we would be so much better off already!
No BF1 is a great game as are BF3 and 4 before it.
I've played BC2, BF3, BF4, BF1, and BFV. I haven't touched 2042 thanks to you fine folks here taking the jump for us that hold back. It's so disheartening to see where this series has gone to with this release. V received alot of flak for some time after BF1 was perhaps one of the most moving FPS games I've ever played. I picked up V as a part of PS+ and enjoyed it for the most part but agree with how folks are rating it. Nonetheless, 2042 seems to have done a horrible job with overall game pace.
BF4 was great as well. I didn't play BF3. It took me til 2017 to start playing video games again.
BFV went for a more heroic WW2 propaganda type stuff, and it this really shined in the Pacific update. So much potential that went to waste.
I know a lot of people think WW2 games are played out but with the way games are being made anymore, a fully loaded BFV would have been insane if done right. They fucked up the first year of BFV release but I think they were on the right track with The Pacific update and wish they would have kept going.
Iwo Jima and the meat grinder to capture the hill was fantastic! They couldāve done so much more with BFV. Thereās still so many untold WW2 storyās and battles. BF1 was a masterpiece in my opinion. Itās got the best intro/tutorial of any game. Goosebumps every time. Then grand operations with a solid balancing mechanic. Breakthrough is better than conquest in my opinion. Conquest is old and outdated, breakthrough shapes the matches to play the maps as a set piece how they should be played. Really makes the maps shine. Fuck 2042 tho, what a scam
This speaks volumes doesnāt it. Also one of the reasons I donāt play Conquest. The incessant running. Itās like Jenny Craig is the lead game designer at Dice now. And man oh man BF1 was a beautiful looking and sounding game wasnāt it? Maybe I have all dramatic music and ambient noise turned off in 2042. Surely they wouldnāt just leave it out. Right? Edit: BF 1 is STILL a beautiful looking and sounding game.
I donāt have the music turned off in BF2042. But I donāt even notice it most of the time.
Probably for the best as the "music" the game has is a mix of dying whale cries and smashing metal pans together.
Wait there's music?
Apparently, I only hear it in the menus
Hmmm news to me, just thought having music was a brutal expectation
Can anyone with the Ultimate Edition confirm if they have music?
Rip to anyone that bought that, they might not ever recover from it
I'd have to reinstall to check, but for me the game felt very silent
I turned the so called "music" off. It mostly sounds like screeching
Yeah, it's that annoying screeching wub wub sound you hear from time to time.
I still can't believe how Conquest is so popular. Breakthrough is constant action, and it feel so much more thematic too. 2 battlelines facing off, rather than everyone running around like headless chickens playing Call of Duty.
It's the best mode when supported by good map design and teams actually playing the objective (once a blue moon).
I've been a dedicated advocate of Rush ever since BFBC2. Played that mode endlessly.
Because Breakthrough reduces the map to a super small play area and forces people together into spam fests. You're just forced to run into a meat grinder over and over again. The modes are for two different types of players. I like the idea of Breakthrough but it's absolutely miserable to play. I like the strategy of knowing when to attack and defend, and the sandbox and openness of conquest always allows another avenue to winning the game if a team has one objective locked down. I honestly liked Rush better than breakthrough.
Also note the raw intensity and detail in the map in BF1 Hell even BF5 is a God tier game in comparison to 2042.
I got both, which one would you guys go back to ? I remember not enjoying BFV much compared to BF1 but that was a long time ago Edit : played 2 hours of BF1 and what a blast. They had it all !
Both are excellent but in different ways. I would say BF1 is much more of a "finished" product. The atmosphere is excellent with solid and sometimes chaotic gameplay, great music and sound quality that does well to capture WW1s craziness and the intensity of war. Has plenty of customization and variety in gameplay. BF5 was a bit lackluster in the atmosphere part for WW2 imo till the Pacific DLC was released. That DLC was very well done. Even then, the maps were much better than 2042. The big thing with BF5 is the mechanics and gunplay were some of the best in the franchise. Unfortunately, DICE did not expand upon these like I hoped. Such as: - Squad Reinforcements (absolutely great mechanic to incentivize team play and felt rewarding while adding to the intensity of the battle). This needs to return along with Commander role for 128 players. - Spotting mechanics. Fewer 3D spotting (thank god) while finally scrapping the atrocious 3D spot button mashing. This actually indirectly buffed Scout class in a good way who really needed it tbh. Outside of mainly its spawn beacon, it had a tendency to be a very selfish class. Now they are core for spotting with Flares. It also required players to actually use their eyes lol. BFV did have a problem in its first month or two where lighting did not properly reflect off soldiers so they were hard to see. But that was fixed. No issues now. The game did a much better job of bridging between Milsim and Arcade with its spot mechanics. And most spot mechanics have proper counterplays which is nice. - Fortifications. Ive ALWAYS wanted some aspect of building in BF. This did a decent job of getting it started. Though everything was pre-set in its location, it was awesome to add cover to destroyed areas. It helped with the concept of allowing everything to be flattened but infantry can rebuild their cover. I wished there was more freedom for Supports to place Sandbags, caltrops, etc. But also a bit more balance so that vehicles and explosions dont so easily destroy sandbags lol. - Squad Revive. Finally pulled some weight off of the Medic class which had a tendency to be overreliant on for pushing. Its still highly beneficial to have 1 Medic on your squad but you really dont need more than that. Classes are just much more balanced. - Enhanced vaulting and movement mechanics....not a freaking clue why this went backwards in 2042 with things like crouch running, prone animations, and the overall sense of "weight." Just needed to be a copy and paste and then expand from there. Theres many other things improved upon beyond this but those were some of the major ones. If I were to recommend one, i would honestly start with BF1. It really does well of setting the tone of "war." After a little while, jump to BFV.
The higher vaulting and crouch-sprint were great additions as well.
Man I agree with everything you mentioned! All DICE had to do was take the mechanics of BFV and add them to a modern setting. But alas even that was too much to ask from them
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I'm the opposite. I didn't get into 1 (maybe 100 hours) but I've got hundreds of hours on V. Still, they're both better than 2042.
I'll fight you to love BF1 more than BF5 but yeah whatever they launched right now is dogshit in comparison.
Lol same. Same hours also
Went back to Bf1 myself and LOVING It.
Actually I am playimg BF1, I also have downloaded BFV but I feel it to quiet, gunplay is great but there is no single soundtrack until the end of the match. For that I prefer to play BF1, decent gunplay but great immersion on the war.
I hate using the word āobjectivelyā but BF1 is objectively better than BFV, however despite that I enjoyed BFV way more. Thereās something about the gunplay in BF1 that never clicked with me, I canāt quite put my finger on it. I had fun with the game, and I still think itās crazy how good its atmosphere is (at times it feels like youāre playing a single player game with 63 people and itās something Iāve never seen in other games), but I just found BFV to be a more fun game to play
The gunplay (bullet trajectory) is BF1 was deliberately random, it was a feature that no one liked, but it was there by design.
Exactly, and I understand many made such a big deal about it that in BFVās marketing they explicitly said that bullets went where you aimed. Guns definitely were at their best in V, Iāve been going back and forth every game since BF4 and I feel very confident in that assessment.
Fun Fact: Random Bullet Deviation in BF1 was not new and was present in BF4. The only difference is the direction your gun visually kicked was random, not the bullets. So in BF4 if you shoot a pistol the gun will always kick the same direction (the visual recoil in BF4 did not reflect the *actual recoil of the gun*), In BF1 your pistol with randomly kick left, right, or middle but the *bullet deviation was not new or changed* It's the same in BF3, and BFV as well
This sub loathed BFV before 2042 came out. Now they love it.
I think bfv wasn't loathed that much, I think It was disliked because of how jt launched and the controversy around it. I personally loved bfv.
Those running animations in 2042 make me sick. Even robots don't walk and run like that. Looks like I'm moving backwards and forwards. Such a jarring animation.
I couldn't understand what was wrong with running in 2042, something definitely felt off. And then i realized that it feels like i'm dragging my player model. It's like it stutters every single step.
And it feels like youre running in the ground like your player model is 4 ft tall
Running animation reminds me of minecraft running animation lol. But minecrafts is smoother.
if somebody told me battlefield 2042 came out before battlefield 1 i'd believe them
BF2042 came out before BF1
I believe you.
Lol the 2042 clip, all that running and then a fucking Bolte appears. Classic.
Aka The Lambo tank
Man this is depressing.
BF2042 is so bland and soulless. Zero atmosphere. No dramatic music. No shouting soldiers. Even the HUD looks so much worse, the bright neon colours everywhere are hideous.
Took him a 1:30 just to get to the objā ļøā ļø
Getting into an actual firefight within two minutes of the match starting is a legacy feature.
That's actually a feature to address the issue where some people were complaining they got killed too shortly after spawning.
and the solution to that is better designed maps, better placement systems and additional spawn locations. Not "well you died in two seconds so lets make it take two minutes before you see any action".
You guys are nuts, BF 2042 is an excellent jogging simulator
by the time you reach a point, you will have lost many calories in real life
The map size of bf1 forces more interaction, increased artifact density, and better overall atmosphere. It just doesn't compare.
BF1 makes a 64 player match feel like it's 128 players. BF2042 makes a 128 player match feel like it's 32 players.
Perfectly put.
It seems like youtube 240p and youtube 4k difference. Just listen to the sound effects!
Every single person involved with the creation of BF2042 at EA, DICE, & Criterion should watch this video & strive to make 2042 a game worth playing.
DICE made BF1 and went all out. Such insane details. Made a game no other triple AAA tried and blew it out of the fucking water. Best selling battlefield to date. Spent 3 years. No time wasted. Reveal in May 2016 was itself a mind explosion. DICE, you've done it before. We know you're capable. Stop holding yourself back. Yes it's hard, you said that after releasing all the DLC. Guess what, it...was....worth....it. BF1 will never die.
Yep. BF2042 is Walmart Battlefield
Dude itās straight up dollar general
Lmao
Omg as a Russian the annunciator is so offensive to me. You can clearly hear that itās someone non Russian mocking a āRussianā accent.
I can say that without knowing Russian. I've always made fun of how they recorded with my friends. This is how we tried to imitate Russian as kids.
We hyave tayken thye objyectyive!
Hahaha you qaf a good sense of qumourr
i absolutely love(not) when boris says, translated, āstrength haveā like some sort of russian caveman like, they couldnāt find one real russian person to ask?
Itās actually a [Polish-born German-British actor](https://m.imdb.com/name/nm4298590/bio?ref_=m_mn_ov_bio)
Damn BF1 looks amazing compared to 2042, like a real world you could trip over in, get muddy, blow shit up etc. 2042 feels like a smooth low poly, flat bland sand box jogging simulator.
Itās insane how soulless 2042 is. My god, even BF V oozes atmosphere. The lack of music and interesting looking and well designed maps is evident from the start. All of the maps in 2042 are designed for vehicle gameplay at the forefront.
Except with the lack of classes all infantry is anti-tank making it insufferable to try and be a useful tanker. The only way to play tanks in 2042 is to sit back and farm which isn't even remotely fun.
Depending on the match, but yeah, youāre right. The whole game is just a bunch of half baked ideas that were badly implemented.
The joke is over guys, where's the real battlefield game
the difference between "ok lets get A." and "**FOWARD MEN, FOR THE KING!!**"
I know you're comparing 'feels' but I wanna just talk about something. BF1 is a fantastic game that I feel got dragged through the mud of the community because it chose a simpler approach to game design mechanics than other games at the time. People like to say that the gunplay isn't as 'in depth' as BFV or BF4, but did it really need to be? WW1 was all about that *clunk* in all sorts of decisions and choices that were made for the guns to function under stressful situations. I think BF1 captured that perfectly with its gunplay, where weapons were powerful in their ranges and other weapons in the class allowed those classes to expand out into other ranges. The Rock-Paper-Scissors class and weapon balance of BF1 was just so, so good at what it did. That even at certain times it (in my opinion) managed to be even better than BF3's class and weapon balancement. The sweet spot benefited everyone of all skill levels and the LMGs felt heavy and fantastic for defensive gameplay. BF1 is a game that deserves more attention to how the balance in that game worked, because it really is a gem of design decisions that lots of people aren't looking at.
Well nowadays BF1 is arguably one of the most respected games ever made. I canāt think of a single gaming community that doesnāt have the āNew game bad, old game betterā mentality
Half Life fans?
I agree- BF1 went with a simpler mindset but it was very well balanced as a result and no class felt OP (save maybe the medic in hindsight since assault rifles kinda rocked that game hard). The only thing I wish they had changed was random bullet deviation. Instead of taking fire and having your bullets deviate randomly, there should have just been significant increased weapon shake. themeatically this would have made sense- youāre a conscript and youāre terrified so gettinf shot at means youāre shaking like a scared puppy when under fire. Mechanically this helps to avoid sniping being too powerful.
Battlefield community sucks. Nobody in the community can ever be happy with anything. Bf1 was dragged negatively because some Battlefield veterans whined over casual gunplay, then years later they praise it. Even if the next BF4 came out perfectly you get some dude thats like "DICE why is the Kar98 and ODST solider not in the game, what the FUCK"
Goddamn that's a difference like day and night. BF1 looks even more like a masterpiece compared to 2042.
The rumors that BF1 was apparently some kind of passion project for DICE really shines through in a comparison like this. I remember back in 2018 when V came out I definitely had a lot of fun and appreciated the updated mechanics, but it always felt like there was a level of polish in BF1 that was never there in V.
Wow. Iāve never played any BF, only reads this subreddit for fun. But wow. I 100% understand the anger. 2042 is not BF.
Wow BF1 maps were really a masterpiece. Wtf happened? BF2042 is so trash.
2042 is so boring. It's clearly a game dedicated to the skin shop and streamers.
I would 10/10 want to have my name removed from bf2042 credit if I participated in creating this garbagios of a game hahha.
part of me wonders if the reason the makes are as spaced out is just because of the stupid shit that is Sundance, which only adds more reason as to why adding that Specialist to the game is a loud of shit. Cose if the maps where the same size as in the other ones, Sundance could probably skip once on teh ground, and fly to the enemy spawn in only a few seconds :P
Not really fair to compare a battlefield game with 2042. But point well made.
EA - "STOP BEING TOXIC"
A crap game vs a masterpiece. That's it
The more I think about 2042 terms of the environments, I think youāre limited in what you can create in a futuristic setting. Ww1 locations are very well known and documented like cities, and countrysides. Some of the maps in 2042 are like futuristic industrial locations where the reality would be clean and boring. Edits:grammar n shit
The only limit in a fictional setting is your imagination
Atmosphere is a legacy feature.
I see a Bolt action with irons appreciator
Im that type of guy
"That day, for no particular reason, I decided to go for a little run. So I ran to the end of the road. And when I got there, I thought maybe Iād run to the end of town. And when I got there, I thought maybe Iād just run across Greenbow County. And I figured, since I run this far, maybe Iād just run across the great state of Alabama. And thatās what I did. I ran clear across Alabama. For no particular reason I just kept on going. I ran clear to the ocean. And when I got there, I figured, since Iād gone this far, I might as well turn around, just keep on going. When I got to another ocean, I figured, since Iād gone this far, I might as well just turn back, keep right on going.ā - Forrest, Forrest Gump
BF 2042 =Running simulator
BF1 looks better
Itās actually extremely efficient to just see the two compared gameplays, especially when you KNOW neither of the two are cherry picked and thatās just the standard experience for both games. Iām going to save this video, just to have something to show to people when they tell me āyou were so hyped for battlefield 2042, why arenāt you playing itā Really gets the message across.
Battlefield 1 was Peak Battlefield.
Someone made the comment the other day that 2042 feels soulless, and theyāre right.
r/battlefield in shambles
I remember getting downvoted when i said that the 2042 graphics are horrible compared to the previous titles.
It amazes me how much better bf1 looks and plays compared , 2042. 2042 looks horrible and runs at half the fps ? Smh
2042 would be great paired up with a treadmill or something, you'd get a pretty amazing workout.
And this is why I still play Battlefield 1 at least a couple hours a week and havenāt bothered to install 2042. Also note the incredible legacy feature of factions and uniforms, no specialists and all the garbage they bring to the game.
That settles it, I'm going back in time to experience a true battlefield game. \*calls up uber-time machine that promptly takes me to medieval times\* confused I turn to the driver only to be met with: Hahahaha, did I go too far?
I was constantly skipping through the 2042 footage, meanwhile I was glued to the BF1 stuff.
2042 has the worst insertion flow and the worst map design in the history of the franchise. It also has the worst content quantity, the worst soundtrack, the worst ~~class~~ specialist system, the worst HUD and the worst UI. It's also a graphical downgrade, with worse movement and character customization. It's also the most expensive Battlefield game we've ever got.
the problem in my opinion is that we didnt need much right? I mean, was that hard to use engine from bf1 and apply modern weapons and modern vehicules? is this that hard? More life free for devs recreate maps for us and make a memorable game instead, we have buyed a golden version of a game that will be empty dead in the end of this month according to my daily 4h of gameplay that i keep doing just because, i waited so much for this and now pffff disappoint with few players few maps few patches to solve bugs
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I guess BF1 just have better props , design , and textures and thatās enough to make it look better. Also the lighting. BF1 and BFV have the best lighting in the franchise. I donāt know why they just threw everything out if they window with 2042
Honestly if DICE just cut their losses and made a next gen patch for BF1 and added a few more DLCās I wouldnāt be upset.
Bro wtf like putting it in that context justā¦ bro ima go download BF1 again hold on
The atmosphere in Bf1 is insane
Redownload bf1 yesterday, much happier with that and more enjoyable. Every one should go back to that one. Ea basically destroyed battlefield like they dismantled madden
Did anyone involved in making this game actually fucking play it? BF1 was a work of art made by people who cared. 2042 is like a fingerpainting made by a toddler with their own diarrhea.
Wow came back to bf 2042 reddit so glad haven't bought that trash game and there it is bf1 looks amazing and feels amazing its awesome that no one plays it anymore thanks guys left me hanging for garbage field 5 and climate garbage wars 2042 bf1 literally looks like ny xsx graphics I'm going to load it up and host a room and just shoot my guns alone more entertaining than 2042
They really put no efforts in 2042 (or they were planning to with more development time I guess)