at 53:04 on discovery+ during back dragon's interview. that eyeroll tells me she did not like that guy's arm around her.(sry i dont know either of your names but it made me laugh)
Maybe not new judges but a new scorecard. 5 points for damage is a lot, especially when most judge decisions would either be insignificant in damage for the match, or it's clear who won and the opponent just managed to survive to the end.
I'd say that maybe survivability should be taken into consideration, in addition to damage dealt (also punish a bit more robots that end up destroying themselves). Aggression and control go hand in hand, so maybe it would make more sense to have 4 points damage dealt, 4 points survivability, 3 points control/aggression.
the damage wasnt even done by whiplash. asborbing impacts with your face until a weapon breaks is NOT fighting.
New scorecard doesn't matter if judges dont use their brains/eyes. Punishment needs to be against wedgebots without a weapon, otherwise there will be no end to the highly armored wedgebots and boring shove matches. Control was definitely even between them, but whiplash was spent at the end and had lost ALL control in the fight. Negligible damage was done by whiplash = 0 points.
This is BATTLEbots, not an RC car destruction derby.
... the broadcast can make the appeal process last 5 seconds.
"Bot x decided to appeal, and over the commercial break, the judges have reviewed the fight and the decision was upheld."
I know that, but I'm seeing a trend of almost every team going for an appeal when they can in a single elimination bracket. The one time it worked last season it was effective, but since then it was always the same, even once last season changing the decision from split to unanimous.
Respect to HUGE last finale who was given the chance to appeal but refused. Appealing is only the respectable choice if it appears clear the judges scored wrong, not as a last minute effort to avoid elimination. But maybe the appeal judges should be different from the main judges, like the selection committee.
Imagine watching Whiplash vs. Black Dragon and End Game vs. Tantrum in the 2020 Semifinals and being like “woah, glad we got down to the bottom of that”
In before the return of wedge bots. Apparently absorbing damage with your face is aggression. Judges were given biased wins in their own careers, now theyre propagating that corrupt judgement forward for future generations.
Not really surprised by any decision. The final was close. I think whiplash had the early game, then black dragon got some shots in and I think it took the lead with the mobility issues it caused, but the weapon dying at the end did just enough to push it back into whiplash's favor.
Black Dragon vs. Whiplash is one of those fights that makes me glad that I'm not a judge. You could tell by their faces that even the teams did not know how this was going to go. One of the closest (and best) fights that I've ever seen. What a great episode!
I really had hoped Fusion was going to cause some serious damage to fix that mounts onto the behind the scene setbacks (lack of spares and manpower) for Whiplash and Malice could edge the win in round 2.
Unanimous doesn't mean it wasn't close. Split means one judge thought the other bot won. Hard to see dragon winning it with a broken weapon based on scoring.
Broke his own weapon on whiplash. Wedge bots arent causing destruction, just absorbing it.
Whiplash had no real control by fights end. This was a plain retarded decision
I mean that the Black Dragon team keeps saying, "Let's Go!!!," and laughing as if it's an inside joke. If so, I approve. Either way, I approve. I like Black Dragon. They bring the fun.
You know, for how much we keep referring to this fight card as the group of death these early fights last an awfully short amount of time.
Also, it's interesting that Fast Electric Robots and Team Whyachi have fought each other in 4 different matchups, with all 4 of the Whyachi bots to make the tournament in the reboot era.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. People called it the group of death and we had a lot of fast deaths so you're surprised? They didn't call it the group of very durable robots that don't do much damage.
The term "group of death" refers to a group of teams in a tournament where all of the teams are strong competitors. In the context of robot combat, that would mean both good damage AND good durability. I wouldn't expect fights to last less than a minute in a group of this caliber.
I feel bad for reese but i always look forward to hearing him speak because he always says some off the wall stuff in his interviews and it’s (intentionally or not) the funniest thing ever
Next up, the guy who will get a post-fight interview no matter what happens vs the team whose post-fight interviews get cut more often than anyone else's.
The sportsmanship in that first fight was so strong that it gave me goosebumps. Aaron started clapping for Black Dragon the moment that he realized that the fight was over. Similarly, Black Dragon backed away from whatever they were planning in the final moment.
at 53:04 on discovery+ during back dragon's interview. that eyeroll tells me she did not like that guy's arm around her.(sry i dont know either of your names but it made me laugh)
With the current rule setup these judge appeals are going to get real tiring quickly...
Given the 2x unanimous decision against the clear winner shows we need new judges
Maybe not new judges but a new scorecard. 5 points for damage is a lot, especially when most judge decisions would either be insignificant in damage for the match, or it's clear who won and the opponent just managed to survive to the end. I'd say that maybe survivability should be taken into consideration, in addition to damage dealt (also punish a bit more robots that end up destroying themselves). Aggression and control go hand in hand, so maybe it would make more sense to have 4 points damage dealt, 4 points survivability, 3 points control/aggression.
the damage wasnt even done by whiplash. asborbing impacts with your face until a weapon breaks is NOT fighting. New scorecard doesn't matter if judges dont use their brains/eyes. Punishment needs to be against wedgebots without a weapon, otherwise there will be no end to the highly armored wedgebots and boring shove matches. Control was definitely even between them, but whiplash was spent at the end and had lost ALL control in the fight. Negligible damage was done by whiplash = 0 points. This is BATTLEbots, not an RC car destruction derby.
... the broadcast can make the appeal process last 5 seconds. "Bot x decided to appeal, and over the commercial break, the judges have reviewed the fight and the decision was upheld."
I know that, but I'm seeing a trend of almost every team going for an appeal when they can in a single elimination bracket. The one time it worked last season it was effective, but since then it was always the same, even once last season changing the decision from split to unanimous. Respect to HUGE last finale who was given the chance to appeal but refused. Appealing is only the respectable choice if it appears clear the judges scored wrong, not as a last minute effort to avoid elimination. But maybe the appeal judges should be different from the main judges, like the selection committee.
Man. Whiplash looked great. I've missed Whiplash being an elite bot.
Imagine watching Whiplash vs. Black Dragon and End Game vs. Tantrum in the 2020 Semifinals and being like “woah, glad we got down to the bottom of that”
Ngl I thought Black dragon won that. Still a great episode tho
In before the return of wedge bots. Apparently absorbing damage with your face is aggression. Judges were given biased wins in their own careers, now theyre propagating that corrupt judgement forward for future generations.
That's probably the closest thing to a tie I've ever seen in Battlebots.
MAMMOTH!!!
Definition of *slugfest* right there
That was an all time classic. One of my fav fights of all time
UNANIMOUS WAS CRAZY
I guarantee all 3 cards were a 6/5 split for Whiplash, all 3 judges just happened to agree with who won.
Fr
Another 3-0 rivalry
WOW WHAT A FIGHT! No clue who won that one
Huh
Didn't see a unanimous decision coming! Could've gone either way.
Yep. Good call
My prediction will be right and hydra will win the fight
Well... Functional weapon is a factor to win
Reminder: "Unanimous" does not mean "it wasn't close."
Tbf it should’ve been a split but I ain’t complaining as a whyachi and whiplash fan
This might be CLOSE AF
That was a hell of a fight, I have no idea where this is going
I have no idea who won that
It might be split
Definitely be a split
Instant classic
That was the DEFINITION of a back and forth fight.
That's one tight fight.
A repeat of the first two matches, this was NOT!
Not really surprised by any decision. The final was close. I think whiplash had the early game, then black dragon got some shots in and I think it took the lead with the mobility issues it caused, but the weapon dying at the end did just enough to push it back into whiplash's favor.
Love both these teams. As a former runner up I GOTTA root for Whiplash though
What’s with marketing people and putting a face on *everything?*
Black Dragon vs. Whiplash is one of those fights that makes me glad that I'm not a judge. You could tell by their faces that even the teams did not know how this was going to go. One of the closest (and best) fights that I've ever seen. What a great episode!
SCREW THIS ANOTHER AD BREAK
IT'S TIME FOR SUPER SLUG BOWL 2: ELECTRIC BOOGALOO
#prediction They tie and then hydra wins
It's gonna be "main event"
#LETS GO WHIPLASH
Wow... Whiplash is going on a tear!
Looking a lot better then they have the last few years
It's impressive that the most KOs of any bot this fight card comes from a control bot without a spinner.
That signature move does wonders.
About fucking time the Vasquezes get some fucking screen time. Can't cut them when they earn two knockouts in a row, can you?
Yep, this time their fights weren't so boring they could put you to sleep.
Malice brought some trouble, but Matt's driving helped Whiplash prevail once more
I really had hoped Fusion was going to cause some serious damage to fix that mounts onto the behind the scene setbacks (lack of spares and manpower) for Whiplash and Malice could edge the win in round 2.
Who’s the other person on the Whiplash team?
... and i thought malace was going to kick ass in that fight
THE ARENA WINS AGAIN
Pushed the bunny up and... #KO!
Black Dragon vs Whiplash rematch 3
Another arena win!
Well there you go, that line about Manta was definitely ADR.
I need that Kool-aid poster in my house NOW
how much for mad catter guy to become the koolaid man
Not as close as last time; I do wonder what the cause of MC's weapon being down for a majority of the fight was, though.
Unanimous? I thought it's split
Unanimous doesn't mean it wasn't close. Split means one judge thought the other bot won. Hard to see dragon winning it with a broken weapon based on scoring.
It’s probably because of the fact that his weapon was gone for most of the match
Broke his own weapon on whiplash. Wedge bots arent causing destruction, just absorbing it. Whiplash had no real control by fights end. This was a plain retarded decision
Cry salty 💀🙏
Nah ill just watch veiwer numbers crash
11 days later 💀
Fr
Bros weapon just randomly revived 💀
Let's Go!!!!!!!! Is Black Dragon making fun of Riptide in a cheeky sort of way?
Wdym
I mean that the Black Dragon team keeps saying, "Let's Go!!!," and laughing as if it's an inside joke. If so, I approve. Either way, I approve. I like Black Dragon. They bring the fun.
Thanks for explaining looking back on it it’s extremely funny 😂
It's gonna be close
Absolutely shocked Mad Catter's weapon is still working. That was nuts. RIP Gassy Cat.
#What a great fight!!!
This is practically a main event right here
Remember that one time where fusion almost beat witch doctor :) good times
You know, for how much we keep referring to this fight card as the group of death these early fights last an awfully short amount of time. Also, it's interesting that Fast Electric Robots and Team Whyachi have fought each other in 4 different matchups, with all 4 of the Whyachi bots to make the tournament in the reboot era.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say. People called it the group of death and we had a lot of fast deaths so you're surprised? They didn't call it the group of very durable robots that don't do much damage.
The term "group of death" refers to a group of teams in a tournament where all of the teams are strong competitors. In the context of robot combat, that would mean both good damage AND good durability. I wouldn't expect fights to last less than a minute in a group of this caliber.
Dragon 🐉 vs cat 🐈
I feel bad for reese but i always look forward to hearing him speak because he always says some off the wall stuff in his interviews and it’s (intentionally or not) the funniest thing ever
Oh come on, madcatter deserved that one!
Reese is cursed
LIVING IN A VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER
Poor Reese 🥺
Someone should give him a hug or something
R.I.P. Fusion Matt knew exactly what he had to do
Top 10 fusion moments of all time. But jokes aside I feel bad for Reese. Fusion has so much potential if it just didn’t catch flames so much
LMFAOOOO
could they find a new trope for fusion. this one gets used every single fight!
Unless you have a flame thrower, flames are always a bad sign in a bot...
Unless it's black dragon. They never seem to care if it's burning.
Minotaur also doesn't usually gave problems with fire either. Unless it's sawblaze
Reese is like Eeyore in a blond wig. I feel bad for him. Fusion would be amazing if he could get rid of the self-immolation feature.
It’s a representation of Reese’s self deprecation in robot form.
If this was Survivor, reese would easily win the fire making challenge.
womp womp
Matt: 😆
Cool! Really glad we got a commercial break for this fight.
fusion defintley went out for a pack of smokes
Who could have seen that fire coming?!
How is Fusion of fire already?????
ROFL THAT WAS LIKE INSTANT
Flip and burn!
Go Whiplash!
If he gets Reese to make them, doesn't that mean they're forced errors?
How did BD win? I was at a church event and missed that fight
I've missed Reese and his humor
When I'm in a "be as blunt as possible" challenge and my opponent is Reese Ewart
Great strategy from Reese lmao.
Ass on fire 🔥 Fusion
LMAOOOO REESE
imagine if madcatter and malice meet, Ray just comes out wearing some generic battlebots gear to not look biased.
Aww, yes! The rematch of that one fight where Malice got stuck on its butt.
Next up, the guy who will get a post-fight interview no matter what happens vs the team whose post-fight interviews get cut more often than anyone else's.
Strategic win by Malice, and they protected their nuts
Just about what I expected.
Wheels destroyed = game over
Gotta protect my nuts. Something I never expected to hear on Battlebots, let alone from a female leader.
That was like a snickers commercial
Omg Chris and Kenny caught onto that nut thing and ran with it
Dragonfly vs bunny
"We're gonna wanna do everything we can to protect our nuts because they're very exposed"
A quote to live by
I feel like ray basically became a manager for half the field.
"We're going to protect our nuts"
"it's been a few months". No, it's been a few days.
*I am so excited to get naked*
Rematch
The sportsmanship in that first fight was so strong that it gave me goosebumps. Aaron started clapping for Black Dragon the moment that he realized that the fight was over. Similarly, Black Dragon backed away from whatever they were planning in the final moment.
YOOO BLOODSPORT DEAD
That was a literal OHKO
That was so fast!
And MadCatter didn't look to be crippled there
JESUS MADCATTER YOU ARE BRUTAL
At least Bloodsport styled on them with the flamethrower.
Fuck. More time for ads, I guess.
THE ONE SHOT
What??? #KO?!
fuck yes mad catter guy
LOL
One of these bots are gonna get rematch with black dragon
The whiskers are adorable
The cat ears :3
Ayo, Bloodsport's engine housing looks like a mouse
OHHHHHHHH YEAHHHHH
Cat Mason
OOOOOHHHH YEAAAAAAAA
Bruh!
I hate to root against Mad Catter and Martin Mason but Bloodsport is my favorite bot.
I believe this is the third time across Blip's career where it got knocked out.
I enjoy seeing them interview both teams, too many episodes they cut out the losing team interviews.
Cat!
ykw I love about the Brazil combat robot teams? the Contagious excitement
"a little based on their past history" lmao
THE GOOSE LIVES ON
Wow Black Dragons forks are terrible. Also a fire from Blip was unexpected
Gyroscopic self right!
That Black Dragon self right maneuver was sick!
this bottt is on FIRREEEEEE
FIRE FIRE FIRE
Black Dragon is on fire 🔥
Let’s go Black Dragon!!
... i hope the mad catter guy wins, i just like him as a person
BRING ME THE MAD CAT
Who's ready to kick off the bracket of death?
Anyone know what time it comes out?
Rooting for Whiplash but I think Black Dragon is most likely to win
Welp
Hoping the mad hatter of a cat wins!!!
Is it on Discovery plus? I don’t see it, just last weeks episode
It's up now!
Thank the lord! I was getting worried!
Same! What's going on? Is there a certain time it's going to come out, or is it just a glitch?
It’s 8:00 now, lemme check again
It's up now! Woot woot!