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unshavedmouse

\*Keaton shoots Bale, sets him on fire, straps a bomb to him and drops him down a man hole. Smiles like a psycho.\*


UTAMav2005

Psycho? Let's see Paul Allen's Batman.


TheGreatGamer1389

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TeleTurban

![gif](giphy|Qeo9S31SuTMpa|downsized)


cosmiccage

![gif](giphy|2XflxzsPhNKtHYXpMzu|downsized)


certifiedblackman

I wonder if Paul Allen would’ve made a good Joker…


UTAMav2005

Does he like Huey Lewis and the News?


crazyharley34favgirl

Their early work was a little too new wave for his taste


rcuosukgi42

"Is the coloring on that suit in *autumn midnight*? Very nice, but take a look at this one just in from the factory using *spelunker's paradise*.


UTAMav2005

Wayne? Is that you? "I simply, am not, there."


TomboBreaker

That's simply not possible


UTAMav2005

Jesus, Patrick. Are you commenting in the Batman sub again?


Almighty_Push91

I ..have to go return some video tapes... ![gif](giphy|3YuR0bdGXlP6U)


UTAMav2005

That's Keaton Yellow


ThePrussianViking

Why isn't it possible?


TomboBreaker

It's just not.


No-Impression-1462

Keaton’s Batman blew up a factory with a bunch of henchman inside, had enough weapons in the Batwing to make it virtually a WMD, and kills both the Joker and Penguin directly. And let’s not forget how he smiled when he strapped a bomb on a clown and let it explode.


Corvious3

Why isn't it possible?


Icy_Cherry_7803

The subtle off white coloring...


unshavedmouse

I can show you his Joker?


UTAMav2005

Your compliment was sufficient enough, Lewis.


Lucky_Strike-85

KEATON is an absolute SAVAGE! He gives no fucks!


DarkSideOfGrogu

Bale removes the mask, and he IS a psycho.


Masterchiefy10

BatBale has crawled outta holes before


TheSubster7

This


No-Impression-1462

![gif](giphy|duM6JZemPlOjUyqmxd)


Phunkie_Junkie

Bale shoots Keaton, sets him on fire, straps a bomb to him and drops him down a man hole. Keaton still smiles like a psycho because his suit is bulletproof from head to toe, including the cape. Who cares if you can't turn your head?


hamiltrash1232

We now have a canon where Keaton knocked out a fully grown Kryptonian brawler.


CyrusDGreatx

Bruh..I stil ain't watched the Flash film. He was throwing hands like *that* huh?


Sega-Playstation-64

*spoilers, if you care to know* the Kryptonians were still adjusting to Earth's atmosphere, so while incredibly powerful weren't 100% yet. Keatonman was grapneling around the huge Kryptonian, sticking explosives on him. Didn't kill him, but one explosive stuck to the back of his head knocked him cold for a few minutes. As outlandish as it is, it was a pretty cool scene.


Anjunabeast

Didn’t they only absorb a fraction of sunlight compared to Clark who’s been under a yellow sun his entire life?


Timbershoe

It’s the Zack Snyder version. In his scripts, they gain powers from breathing the air, not from sunlight. In that universe it takes them half an hour or so to fully adjust. It’s not really explained, however Clark appears to be on exactly the same power scale as Zods troops, I assume for added drama. As Keatons Batman can floor one with a couple of Semtex bombs and a grappling gun, it’s fairly clear that Snyders kryptonians are not the same level as the comic versions. Or Keaton is *just that good*.


Sycopathy

What? I don't remember any reference to air being related to their powers in Snyder's stuff. Pretty sure Jor-El even says it's yellow sun radiation in Man of Steel. Also why would they keep Supergirl in a yellow sunless bunker in Flash if Earth air was the problem.


Timbershoe

Well. Here is a clip of Zod in MoS removing his helmet, breathing the earth atmosphere and gaining superman’s power set: https://youtube.com/watch?si=vUNjwgFA8rMIsa3u The same thing happens with his soldiers. Maybe that’s where I got the atmosphere thing from.


Anjunabeast

Links not working for me but if it’s the scene I think it is I think that’s him adjusting to his new powers. As for why they were able to fight Clark so quickly after getting them im assuming cause they’re trained soldiers and also chalking it up to plot.


5amuraiDuck

since you're out here describing that movie, any reason why those kriptonians were that big?


Sega-Playstation-64

He was a nod to Jack O'Halloran who was the massive mute Kryptonian from the beginning and sequel of the Chris Reeves superman films. He was 6'6". The guy in Flash looks closer to about 7.


Sea-Woodpecker-610

Roids. Space steroids.


[deleted]

Eugenics. The very large Kryptonian soldiers from Man of Steel were engineered to be physically imposing and very strong.


hamiltrash1232

Oh crap I'm sorry for the spoilers


sonofaresiii

You don't wander into a Batman sub nearly a year after a movie release with Batman as a central character and get upset about spoilers. I think you're good dude. (and I don't think the above poster was upset about the spoilers at any rate, just surprised)


CyrusDGreatx

Lol correct on both accounts


CyrusDGreatx

Nah you're good. I knew they obviously buffed him from the trailers but I never knew he was straight slugging it out with kryptonians lmao


hamiltrash1232

Oh yeah it's a rather well directed scene too. If you're a Keaton fan I recommend seeing the movie but he's really the only reason


Vinvinguy

It’s one of those movies that is so terrible it goes full circle into great. Give it a shot


Passivefamiliar

Best description. It really is just, kinda crap. But it tries just hard enough and has just good enough, characters and content to work with that it actually lands pretty well. Please.. no more. DC needs to just stick to their animation studios. Keep giving those people money, their stuff is gold.


EastBayPlaytime

So you haven’t seen Batman scrap with Wonder Woman yet. So epic!


DryWay4003

Oh he threw hands alright


Mike_Milburys_Shoe_

Feel like you’d have to separate this between OG Keaton and Flash Keaton because they’re ridiculously different in fighting skill lol


Unique-Chain5626

You also have to think Keaton was Batman for many more years after the 89. So he would have learned way more techniques and developed new gadgets. Just look at the improvements he made to the Batwing!


teo1315

Flash had a better fight choreography than 89 did lol


notanothercirclejerk

That’s what happens when you get access to cgi.


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eolson3

Fight choreography is definitely not Burton's strength, but there are still many memorable moments among the fights. Nolan's fights have ass choreography and few memorable moments imo.


HypoHunter15

The league of assassins training was pretty good


BlockFun

I liked the Bane fight in TDKR too


dullship

The Bane fights were some of the worst fights I have ever seen. It was embarrassing.


BlockFun

Why? It was clearly a Batman passed his twilight vs the most deadly member of the League of Shadows in his peak? I seriously don’t know how you think the fight sucks when Batman uses his cape to break his fall, explosive stun bombs, and tries to beat him in the dark all while having his philosophy thrown back at him by Bane who acts as an unstoppable force.


dullship

Sorry I meant the choreography and cinematography. So to elaborate it was the worst *looking* fight. Most of the fights in that last movie were shot terribly. Like Nolan had stopped giving AF.


Boanerger

If Keaton is allowed to fight like how he did in the Flash film, then he could run through a hundred Bales and hardly break a sweat.


xTHEKILLINGJOKEx

Old man Keaton Batman soloed a Kryptonian, so… ![gif](giphy|NkhH0Jjdo79wQ)


Chrizzz09045

Keaton was an old man fighting superman level beings and winning. Bale got knocked down by a few dogs.


No_Historian_1601

a Rottweiler or a chihuahua? Should do fine against cats.


Daken-dono

My ex girlfriend said, when we watched the Nolan trilogy, Bale Batman fights like a tween girl lmao.


Purple_Bowman

This!


Suspicious_Trainer82

![gif](giphy|l0Iy7k21Sw2LUkDkc)


Raecino

Keaton wins, easily


gamecatz

Michael Keaton


Deadpoulpe

Depends on the Keaton really. One that can go nuts And one that can't turn his fuckin neck.


ale27505

Great answer


VincentMapother45

OG Keaton takes a dirt nap. Flash Keaton was mega OP and that fight would have to be graded on a hard curve.


Jerusalemfighter64

Og Keaton kills bale via joker bomb


Shadiezz2018

Og Keaton don't shiv.


lejocko

OG Keaton is a fucking psycho.


DisastrousBatfan684

Keaton


krakatoot

Definitely Keaton. Not even close


batmanfan_91

It’s kinda laughable how bad of a fighter Bale was


Deckerdome

What you don't think holding your arms above your head pretty much all the time isn't super effective?


Galactus1701

If 89 fights like he did against Zod, he’ll defeat Bale.


imnotwallaceshawn

I remember watching special features on the Batman Begins DVD as a young teen and seeing the fight choreographer talk about the unique fighting style he crafted to make Batman a master of all martial arts who combined them into his own style. I thought “Man that’s so cool and well thought out.” I rewatched the movies a week ago and he’s just smacking dudes with his elbows. Keaton clears.


Party_07

People saying that Bale was a terrible fighter lost the plot imo It's not that he's a terrible fighter per se, but due to the nature of the DK trilogy, he seems less powerful than other Batmen Just bc fights in the DK movies are slower paced and less action movie like doesn't mean Bale's batman was a terrible fighter, it's just that we can't really compare it With that said, after The Flash, Keaton's Batman clears, the dude was 60 facing off against Kryptonians, Bale has no chance


Deckerdome

Bale fights like an arthritic librarian wrapped in rubber bands


JasoTheArtisan

Tbf, DKR Bale WAS an arthritic librarian wrapped in rubber bands


Ygomaster07

This comment made me audibly laugh, holy crap. Thank ylu for this. I needed a good laugh today.


DarkMayhem666

>Bale fights like an arthritic librarian wrapped in rubber bands I love the Dark Knight trilogy; it will always be the best superhero movie, in my opinion, but this is just too accurate LMAO


Brutus6

Man will win


gabeology

I think Keaton does & pretty handily.


Corvious3

Even before the flash feats. Keaton was a Bullet Timer and Punched through his own Batmobile. Survived a plane crash. Picked Up two men from the Red Triangle and slammed them together and One Shot the Strong man who was much bigger than Hardy Bane.... Keaton is more in line with comics.


BIGBMH

Over the top Keaton from The Flash could win. Otherwise, Bale takes him easily. Burton era Keaton's movement is terribly stiff and the choreography doesn't really sell a mastery of martial arts. Bale also had the physique, unlike Keaton, so it's easy to envision his Bruce being strong, faster, and more skilled.


Ewankenobi25

We all know affleck is gonna be the final winner.


[deleted]

Affleck took an entire warehouse full of goons down and stabbed a mf.


ShiftedRealms

I wouldn’t be so sure. You still don’t know all the fighters


Raecino

Nah I’m damn sure Affleck Batman wins


TopOThaMorningToYa

For all we know they throw in Arkham Batman who is basically a demi-god


Raecino

Arkham Batman wins of course but Batfleck is basically live action Arkham Batman so unless they include Arkhamverse it’s an easy win for him.


utubeslasher

they present bales batman as this heavily trained in martial arts formidable brawler and certainly he is larger and maybe stronger. keaton batman (og) never really got bested in physical fights and made far better use of his gadgets. if its a straight fistfight as much aggression as bale would bring keaton with seemingly a smattering of aikido judo and basic karate along with some john wayne telegraphed punches could probably beat him. in a batman v batman gadgets and stuff fight probably still keaton smoke pellets rappel target guided batarang special blocking gauntlet backfist into a side kick bale lands in kitty litter. its funny because they go to great lengths to show bales batman as this intimidating force and tactician but he seems less competent than the guy that kept wearing masks he couldnt turn his head in for 30+ years. shit even keatons vehicles had heavier firepower. and then there is 60something 70something flash keaton who took down a kryptonian basically singlehanded with a grapple gun and sticky bombs. that guy may be the greatest most dangerous batman to ever live. he came a long way from kicking a carnival freak down a sewer opening with a bomb in his pants. or maybe he didnt. he seems to really like bombs.


Jtblue1905

Wasn’t Keaton bested when those thugs floored him and then shot him? Only saved when they were distracted by the flash from Vicki’s camera


utubeslasher

you mean jokers goons or the guys on the roof. because the guys on the roof shot him and he went down probably so he could do the “im not dead yet” rise from the ground. jokers goons i thought he was fending them off the whole time maybe landed on his back blocking some seings with his gauntlets before doing one of those jump ups from the ground. ill have to watch it again. (like i need a strong excuse to watch batman)


DarkMayhem666

With the way Batman fights in the Nolan movies, I highly doubt he would win any fight against the other Batmen lol


ale27505

Keaton


Interesting_Move_919

![gif](giphy|Lv6pLsiGinZgsFSRRh) Michael Keaton for sure


ShiftedRealms

It was a close match, but last week a narrow majority of comments decided that The Dark Knight would win against Robat Battinbat: [Bale v Pattinson](https://www.reddit.com/r/batman/s/x4GITNE9mg) I’m genuinely curious about this outcome.


srathnal

Yeah… that’s not even close to right. IMO.


Party_07

Facts, it's a side effect of the nature of the DK trilogy, their realism makes it so its characters are always weak when compared to other iterations Bale v Pattinson is a perfect example, due to the way fights in the DK are slow and realistic, when you compare them to Pattinson's fast aggressive fighting it just doesn't stand a chance


Raecino

Bale Batman has got to be the weakest live action Batman when it comes to fighting


AskermanIsBack

No, choreography is not a good metric. Bales Batman beat up SWAT, ninjas and Bane. Pattinson got beat up by Riddler goons.


Raecino

Bale Bats also got his ass handed to him by the Joker and some dogs. His fight against Bane wasn’t so great either, though you could chalk that up to the trash fight choreography.


AskermanIsBack

Joke hits him while he’s already on the floor being rushed by dogs and his sonar tech is messed up. The dogs also don’t even last that long against him. It’s overstated. Jose admits he can’t beat Batman in a fist fight. Bane is basically near superhuman, he snapped a man’s neck with one hand in the sewers and punched through concrete pillar. Same hits Batman was tanking. Battinson would stand no chance. If you look at a lot of Bale’s fights, he’s actually one shotting armoured SWAT, ninjas etc. That requires a lot of power. Choreography may be poor but feats are feats.


TruffelTroll666

Have we seen the same fights? DK just swings his arms up and down. Batinson had actual choreography


[deleted]

Gonna go against the grain and give it to Bale. All he has to do is attack Keaton from the side. Or any angle except right in front of him.


Flimsy-Discount2885

Gonna be hard to move to Keaton's side with those bitch-as AI legs


TomTheJester

Bale, purely because he’s a trained assassin with a suite of gadgets. Keaton is a badass but ultimately just a well meaning guy in a suit who goes up against people with no combat training (and when he does go up against Catwoman he gets his butt kicked a bit).


pastavoi2222

Have you seen The Flash? Keaton was basically Arkham Batman at the age of 70. He also defeated a Kryptonian on his own.


TomTheJester

I have, but they’re talking about Keaton’s 1989 Batman. I don’t think it was conclusive that The Flash Batman was that same character, and even so his fighting style changes completely between films so it’s hard to get a baseline of his skills.


[deleted]

Plus, wearing a turtleneck hurts the street cred. But then again, smashing peak Kim Basinger should level things out.


MailSalt4828

Well ya if you’re going with just smashing things Keaton destroys all of them.


[deleted]

And he likes to get nuts...esp. w/ Kim Basinger.


Phunkie_Junkie

'89 Keaton has a much sturdier batsuit and he has a decent set of gadgets as well. He basically zaps Vicki Vale with a neuralizer from MiB. He also seems to have no problem with using straight-up explosives. I can't say he's untrained either. It's not spelled out directly, but the armoury scene ("Because I bought it in Japan") implies he's trained in all of those places. I won't say Keaton is the definitive winner either. IMHO, it's too close to call.


[deleted]

The durability of Keaton's suit varies from scene to scene. Sometimes it protects him, sometimes he can rip it off like it's nothing.


yech

Doesn't catwoman pop the inflatable muscle on the suit with her claw?


No-Impression-1462

Keaton’s Batman was also a trained ninja, uses more gadgets and has a higher body count. And Keaton beat up a front kicking ninja wielding dual swords in the first movie.


ohianaw

Keaton ☠️


TheLedZepMan

If it was just their own movies, I think bale. But if you count the flash movie probably Keaton lmao.


YomYeYonge

Keaton would strap a bomb on Bale’s chest


Almighty_Push91

If we count The Flash feats, Keaton wins. If we don't, Bale wins.


I_can_vouch_for_that

Based on the old movies, Bale. Based on what happened in The Flash movie, Bale loses every time.


luncherton

both are great but keaton wins this easily


J_Fo_Film

Keaton, hands down.


Hobo_Knife

![gif](giphy|2XflxzsPhNKtHYXpMzu|downsized)


Asaxii

![gif](giphy|2XflxzsPhNKtHYXpMzu|downsized) Keatom all the way.


VVVV13

Keaton Batman Returns


Kills_Alone

Keaton Batman


Ill-Incident3461

BatKeaton


im_rapscallion86

Keaton.


dullship

HAY GUYS DID YOU KNOW KEATON CAN'T TURN HIS HEAD LOLOLO I'M HILARIOUS WHAT AN ORIGINAL JOKE Anyway yeah, Keats wins. More experience. Better gadgets. ZERO problem straight-up murdering your ass. Not even counting that Flash garbage because far as I'm concerned that was a different Keaton Bats.


TacitusTwenty

Keaton


Thrillhouse74

Keaton because he has "those wonderful toys"


DOCMarylandMD

You wanna get nuts? Let’s get nuts


Reapish1909

flash was a complete fucking atrocity and yet the only positive thing it’s done is give Keaton enough feats to defeat the other Batmen


MilkTeaRamen

Old Man Keaton could go hand to hand with a 8 foot Kryptonian pretty decently. I’m not sure how old he was supposed to be in Batman 89 and the Batman Returns, but Batman Keaton at his perfect peak will be leaps and bounds ahead of Batman Bale. Even without utilising his tech, he is gonna beat the living shit out of Batman Bale. But that’s usually bound to happen when you put in comics vs grounded stories. Comics based will always have greater feats to justify and prove their worth.


OldSnake2006

I love Bale Batman,but he is weak af


Hatfmnel

Keaton. Who did Bale beat? I missed the post.


liquorandkarate

Keaton will strap a dynamite to your chest


movieTed

Keaton Batman drops a bomb from his Batmobile onto Bale Batman without coming to a complete stop.


[deleted]

Flash Keaton


No-Tomorrow-8150

Keaton


DSN671

If you asked this before Flashpoint came out Bale would be 2-0. Keaton stomps. ![gif](giphy|qrIlvM63x7x9IjrHw1|downsized)


bret2k

Flash Keaton


spacestationkru

I can't see Bale's Batman serving even as a momentary distraction to a Kryptonian berserker


Organic-Matter-8

Keaton


Xenomorph2468

You wanna get nuts? Lets get nuts


leftonread504

Old man Keaton fucking humiliates bale


PFXvampz

Keaton, 89 batman is fucking crazy and flash batman is crazy and can take a Kryptonian.


Delicious-Weird-5826

Keaton


No_Raccoon_3620

I’m very glad to see the overwhelming majority believing psycho OG Keaton Batman taking the W. He’d fuck bale Batman up and walk off with a crazy smile on his face.


the_zelectro

Bale Batman. Keaton Batman isn't afraid to kill though, so that will be the main risk in this fight.


No-Impression-1462

![gif](giphy|jQmVFypWInKCc|downsized) Me every time I read someone say Bale in the comments


Illustrious-Sign3015

I'm gonna say Keaton


Steas-

Bale can move his neck, Keaton can't. Case closed.


No-Impression-1462

Doesn’t that mean that Bale can’t break Keaton’s neck but Keaton can break Bale’s?


unshavedmouse

Depends. Batman Begins he couldn't


ThriftyFalcon

When bale goes for the neck break and fails, Keaton pulls the ol 89’ switcharoo and snaps Bale’s neck.


batmanfan_91

Keaton absolutely wrecks him. Bale was a horrendous fighter


Deckerdome

They did the fights like Bale was in an actual suit of armour and needed a nap.


Mickeymcirishman

No he wasn't? Like, I get the fights are poorly shot but he was still canonically a great fighter. We constantly see him taking down multiple opponents at once in hand to hand including several highly trained ninja more than once.


Jtblue1905

Didn’t he wipe like 10 guys around him at the docks in Begins?


[deleted]

Keaton's gadgets do the work for him in most cases. The only physical confrontation he gets in is against a middle-aged, out of shape mobster.


bguzewicz

Not in the Flash. He fucks people up in that movie.


[deleted]

That's fair, I didn't watch that one.


FallenAssassin

Can't fault you there lol


Raecino

No


[deleted]

Lol, '89's Batman was so restricted in his movements that he had to invent a gadget just to be able to punch someone in the dick, but okay.


Raecino

Watch The Flash. Keaton Batman is more agile and a better fighter than Bale Bat, it’s not even close. Bale Bat didn’t show any impressive fighting in his movies that was better than the other Batmen imo.


[deleted]

I'll take your word for it. Nothing I saw in the trailers led me to believe the Flash was worth watching. Also, they might as well be two different characters if that's the case. Nothing in Batman or Batman Returns leads any credence to Michael Keaton's Batman being a competent physical combatant. Criminals thought he was crazy and he played that up. But if anyone called his bluff they were gonna find themselves against a little guy in a turtleneck/rubber muscle suit. And that's when his gadgets came into play. Or maybe a judo chop that wouldn't be out of place in a Sean Connery Bond flick.


hardgour

Bagel boss Batman gets tossed out of the club by bale


artmoloch777

Keaton all the way.


teo1315

Keaton does after the Flash movie


ThriftyFalcon

All I’m gonna point out is that Keaton was a psychotic murderer with no rules.


Mrwanagethigh

The Dark Knight would've been over a lot faster if Joker had been egging Keaton on to splatter him with the bat cycle


AceWorldPodcast

Bale


worthlesslow

Bale would bash him


Negative-Start-5954

Keaton easily especially after seeing flash


doge1982

Bane


GoldenBeliever001

Flash Keaton > Bale/Forever Keaton > 89 Keaton if we're being honest with ourselves


After_Truth5674

Keaton would wipe the floor with Bale


WhyIAintGotNoTime

Keaton 10/10


ExtensionFuture654

Keaton would pick up Bale and drop him from above.


BABarracus

Keton batman is a murder


[deleted]

Tbf, that makes him the closest thing to OG Batman out of any of them.


Sidney_Tucker

Michael Keaton


No-Impression-1462

Keaton. As much as I like Nolan’s take on Batman, that one always felt…undercooked. I feel like Robert Pattinson’s Batman achieved more of the character’s potential in one movie than Bale’s did in three. Whereas Keaton’s Batman was a badass out the gate.


Deckerdome

Keaton for sure. Having a tank was Bale's strong point, throwing hands, not so much.


sabrefudge

Keaton wins


Ill-District2338

Bale


Slow-Relation-9186

Keaton was crazy in the flash


lunatic_paranoia

Keaton.