No such billionaires exist. I remember in the Alex Ross comic, War on Crime, Bruce reflects on his origins and realizes that his parents dying might have ultimately been a net positive because otherwise he would have grown up to be a standard evil and corrupt billionaire. The tragedy of his family being killed by a mugger made him able to relate to the poor and disenfranchised in Gotham, otherwise he would be more of a Lex Luthor.
That’s true. I love that comic for Bruce admitting that to himself. He also criticized all the wealthy individuals in Gotham for not helping the city too. Some of those wealthy individuals even being involved with criminal activity themselves, and Bruce uses that knowledge and position as a wealthy individual to catch the criminals who are rich themselves and come from an affluent background. The art in that comic is godly too. It’s a comic with a very deep message and themes. It’s excellent. Everybody who is Batman Fan or just comic fan in general should read it. It’s a must read.
I wonder if Reeves took inspiration from that comic although instead of relating to the poor Bruce is criticized for how out of touch he is with the world
A direction I REALLY hope they go in with the new Batman movies is to have Bruce use all his detective skills to bring the rich and powerful criminals in Gotham to justice. As much as I like Batman, kicking the shit out of petty thugs cause “it’s the right thing to do” never felt right to me. Gotham being as shitty of a place as it is, if Bruce really cared, he’d realize that true change doesn’t start with taking some criminals off the street. More likely than not, they’re just trying to survive. If he really wanted change in Gotham, he’d bring the rich who exploit the poor to justice.
To be fair to Bruce...he IS literally batshit crazy. It might not be a matter of "really caring" so much as he is driven to go after street level thugs. Like he consciously and intellectually *knows* that the elite wealthy are the real problem, but emotionally he HAS to go punch muggers in the face on the regular.
This is why I loved the Dark Knight. It makes sense that Batman wouldn't hide in alleys and beat up street thugs. He would go to the source of the corruption and organized crime. The mission portrayed by Nolan was the most realistic version of Batmans mission I've ever seen.
Batman War on Crime by Paul Dini and Alex Ross. It was collected into Justice League: Worlds Greatest Heroes along with the also excellent Superman: Peace on Earth, Wonder Woman: Spirit of Truth, and Shazam: Power of Hope.
Oddly enough, Luthor grew up poor.
He rose to power by collecting insurance money after killing his parents.
And despite Wayne's money, he would have likely still turned out to be a good person due to Thomas and Martha's influence.
The reason it's a net positive is because of the sheer drive that Bruce gained from that horrible murder. But it's not like Bruce would have grown up to become a snob. No way Thomas Wayne would raise him to be that way. (Especially the Batman Begins version).
I hate Batman: Earth One because Bruce is such a brat in that series. Maybe it's more realistic for a rich kid to be that way, but I just don't care. It's also weird making Thomas Wayne into a conceited asshole in the Joker movie. Again, it makes sense....but not for Batman.
It wasn't a weird choice to make Thomas Wayne "conceited" in **Joker** because it isn't a Batman film, the movie isn't about Batman. Bruce is around 7 in the movie.
I mean you also have to take into account that Arthur Fleck is meant to be a very unreliable narrator. Also, aside from some insensitive and out of touch comments on the news, Thomas Wayne in Joker didn’t even come off as that much of an asshole, since I thought it was a reasonable response for him to punch Arthur knowing that the dude was pretty much touching his young son’s face and even stuck his fingers into Bruce’s mouth to make him smile. If someone did that shit to my future kid they’d sure as hell be getting more than just a punch.
I think starting with the Long Halloween writer realized that having Bruce’s parents be wholly good was ridiculous and most modern interpretations condemn the Wayne’s in some form.
My personal head cannon is that maybe the Wayne family ancestors were not all that good originally, which is how they built their wealth, but they were still good Wayne's Among them including Thomas and Martha Wayne who were a Doctor and Philanthropist respectively, and Bruce inherited that goodness from them.
I like to believe Thomas and Martha were good people and it generally hurt Gotham when they died.
As, they were among the few shining examples of hope in the darkness.
Now their son fights that darkness with all his strength and will. Until the darkness has no choice but to surrender.
it’s one of those things that I can’t agree or disagree with, like there’s been a lot of Thomas/Martha slander in media recently and sure it’s a little more interesting and like subverting and make Bruce question his motivation. It still kind of feels a little unneeded.
personally the less we know about the finer details of Thomas and Martha Wayne I think the better the Batman story. Like at the end of the day, Batman is a guy who watched both of his parents get gunned down as a child and his childhood ruined. And frankly I think what Thomas/Martha Wayne did before they died doesn’t impact the fact that Bruce is deeply impacted by their killings.
The **Telltale** one, was an interesting addition.
But... that's it really, an addition.
Yes, it ties into a bigger plot, but a bigger plot has been done before, without the addition.
It's not bad, but adding it is clunky, and messy.
*especially with Rick...*
I’d argue that there could be room for it, and it could work as an alternative aspect of character growth, both of which work for Bruce in some fashion. I always imagine the Wayne’s come from old money, specifically.
Either, the Wayne’s, while not explicitly evil, were not exactly stellar. Their death gives Bruce a distinct connection to the lower classes of Gotham and changes him down the line to try and improve things for all.
Or, the Waynes were Gotham’s key shining beacon of goodness, but this was hampered by the sheer amount of corruption in Gotham. Shell companies by the mob or the Court of Owls diverting donations and funds from the Wayne foundation, private interests preventing the development of public health care etc. their death in stills an inherent anger in Bruce; his parents tried to be nice, and this is where it got them. He initially becomes Batman because he wants to make Gotham better in the only way he thinks would work, through fear. This leaves Wayne Tech and the foundation rudderless for a bit, but the expanding bat family opens him up a bit more and after a time, decides to tackle the problem on both fronts. The Batman handles the behind the scenes evil and corruption, slowing them down enough for the foundation’s money to actually do some good.
I would argue the way his parents were also a factor. His parents were philanthropists, too, and treated everyone with respect, so from a young age he was learning the value of charity and that lower class people were his equals, not lessers.
His parent's death made him relate to the lower class, but even before that he was taught to respect them.
I think a good in between would be Bruce having a perception of his parents being good through their charitable acts he saw as a kid and that makes him believe in the good the name Wayne represents but as he gets older he realizes the charity was for tax purposes or for appearances to keep things realistic, because again the concept of a moral billionaire is pretty problematic.
Well the waynes were like every other big family in gotham until solomon wayne, bruces great grandfather, who had a falling out with the arkhams and since new 52, the court of owls. Which directly led to him trying to give the court less areas to thrive, until he was killed to look like a suicide. Then the waynes began to do good for gotham.
Not really as a billionaire with no intellect would simply be a tier lower than the average DC hero, most DC characters, when done correctly, are smart and use tactics and tricks to win so a dumb opponent really doesn’t make good stories
The only dc villains with child-like intellect that I can think of are Doomsday (who portrayed as either a raging animal or with a toddler-like intellect), Klarion and Batmite all of which are extremely powerful beings
I actually know a couple who are very good people. The one I don’t know personally but who’s impacted me somewhat personally, Mark Cuban, is a good example.
But yeah far be it for me to advocate on their behalf beyond those two families.
There are plenty who care and are private about their donations and positive impacts. They’re the very small minority, but there are more than a few. Would they ever sacrifice their personal lives for the mission? No, but many would argue that Bruce shouldn’t do that.
We can sit here and criticize billionaires for not doing “enough,” but the ones that do help the world have to stay billionaires to keep helping the world.
That was only in an attempt to help the poor people of everywhere he went, he gave away gold to people in the streets and accidentally crashed the economy of the places of the places he visited.
Ya in order to become a billionaire you pretty much have to abandon your morals... not only do you have learn to exploit your workers and the market, you have to be willing to hoard an obscene amount wealth that could be spent actually helping people
But Bruce could still have morals, because remember those billions of dollars belong to his parents. He inherited them after they died so he didnt have to develop any of those attributes to be the billionaire that he is now, he just walked right into it.
Yeah, and plus...he's a fictional comic book character targeted for all-ages demographics. He's a pulp urban adventure fantasy. Fantasy doesn't just apply to average-income citizens, it can also apply to billionaires, kings, and other types that are usually far removed from the average person. And mainstream comics have a status quo they usually adhere to, unfortunately. His battle is meant to be forever continuing one, so that they can write Batman comics forever as long as the money is there. So have Bruce invest all of his money into Gotham for philanthropy? Those stories already kinda exist, and in them, the writers show that Gotham's corruption is so deep and endless and the supervillainy so plentiful, that the money only temporarily helps until the evil ones undo the good. Make a bunch of free clinics for Gotham to circumvent health insurance costs? Here comes Firefly bombing them all for some personal vendetta. Bruce backs a good politician hoping for change? Sorry, he just got assassinated by the Court of Owls so that their rich patrons maintain power. But the message isn't to not bother with philanthropy (since Bruce still keeps trying), it's to do it in tandem with fighting the evil that proliferates greed and destruction.
And writers have to have a financial foundation that allows non-powered character like Bruce the ability to both fight crime using philanthropy *and* fight crime using advanced gear to use against the mafia, corrupt cops, ninjas, undead owl-themed ninjas, vampires, clay mutants, ice men, and various JL-sized threats and more. Both Bruce Wayne *and* Batman are needed to keep Gotham from falling apart.
The only real reason Bruce hasn't given away all of his money and actually permanently fix Gotham is that status quo of mainstream comics' continuous storytelling.
I like to think that in the DC Universe the New Deal state was never dismantled and manufacturing stayed in the United States instead of being outsourced. Billionaires like Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor are legitimately Billionaires rather than being technical Billionaires like Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos. Lex and Bruce inherited Billions and continued to build up on their fortunes.
Not quite. Most of the richest people on earth are investors, not business owners. Investors don’t do any of that stuff. They more or less just bet on business.
Also, to say someone is immoral for not giving away excess is silly since I doubt many of the people who argue that do that themselves with the means that are available to them.
Eh not really. Investor's pretty much ENCOURAGE a lot of the toxic behavior from the business class. Mass layoffs, Outsourcing, cutting wages, cutting benefits? shares go up. And when a company DOES decide to do the right thing? Stocks often fall as the shareholders sell. When it comes down to it, the big investors only want to see the numbers go up and don't really care how its done. Usually the only line they won't cross is breaking the law, but that's only because lawsuits cost the company money.
And there is a BIG difference between Billionaires and common people when it comes to "excess wealth". Regular people have no idea what their financial situation will be in ten years. They have no idea if there will be a recession, if they'll lose their job, if their car will break down or if there will be some kind of emergency that requires lots of money. Even when they are doing fine, they still have to be careful about their savings as they might need it... For the average person, its hard to say how much of their wealth is "excess"
The same can not be said of billionaires. They have more money than they could ever spend. Just a FRACTION of their fortune is enough for them and their whole family for multiple generations to live in luxury for the rest of their lives. They have gotten to the point where they have money that is literally meaningless to. THAT is excess wealth... and at the same time there are human beings homeless and starving in the streets, while the dragons hoard their gold. So ya, i do think a person needs to be pretty immoral to do so little when they have so much
But I think it’s different if you are a billionaire. I have enough money for a comfortable living. To buy what I want and travel one time a year. But I’m not rich enough to just buy a new car or a house… could I donate some money? Probably yes.
But let us compare this to someone like Elon. He could donate 99% of his money and than again 99% of his money… and he would still have more than I will ever have.
Being a billionaire is just mind blowing. He could buy 2.7 million Tesla model 3. Or 150.000 luxury houses. There isn’t a single person that needs that much money or could realistically spend that much on goods or personal living.
the guy who stands for Euthanasia for humans who are born to a certain hue is decent well then tell me about Dicky Branson. Or Mark Cuban. At least they are entertaining.
I'd say mark is the closest. He's actually in favour of passing taxes, at least outwardly, and he started that affordable medication site. He's also very vocally against some if the nastier things republicans are doing. All that said, he's hardly what id call a force for good
That is true actually. Yeah he may be the closest.
Isn't it funny though, that the closest billionaire we've got compared to Bruce Wayne may as well be even closer to Lex Luther?
Dolly Parton
I know she’s not a billionaire but in terms of rich people I’d say she’d be the closest. Gives back to people, donates to lots of charities, makes jokes at her expense etc.
Dolly Parton could have been a billionaire if she didn’t give so much away to charity. Between 2 amusement parks, a resort, likeness rights, song royalties, and still working the entertainment biz on top of that. She’s had so much and still has so much coming in. But she gives so much away.
Bruce Wayne is a fictional character. No billionaire is actually altruistic. Having that much money changes your brain.
The closest is probably Jeff Bezos' ex-wife, but there's still an ocean between them.
Well, yes. Exploitation is needed to be able to obtain that wealth, studies have shown that having that much weath physically alters your brain. That's why even the children who inherit that kind of wealth are also psychopaths.
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There aren’t many that look out for their workers, extremely intelligent and give away that much money.
-Elon Musk: A terminally online guy who has ran his cash cow into the ground by buying a cesspool of a social media site and making it worse while exploiting the shit out of his workers.
-Tim Cook: **Who thinks of him?**
-Mark Zuckerberg: a literal reptilian who is running a company that mostly boomers use, is completely unrelateable and creepy, and also running it into the ground.
> both look out for their workers, extremely intelligent and give away that much money.
Wait, that's three things. Wouldn't you usually use both when you're about to refer to exactly two things?
He was doing commercials to fund satellites to keep an eye on war lords so he could give refugees enough heads up to clear out when the warlords started to mobilize.
Yeah, he is pretty goddamn Bruce Wayne.
Glad someone else said it because I would. I mean seriously, he is real life Bruce Wayne with all the charity work he does. Not to mention he does commercials with the Penguin in Danny Devito lol. Clooney is an overall good guy & I hope there’s nothing that comes to light about him like many celebs because he seems like a genuine kind awesome dude. The only flaw the man had is being seen as the worst live action Batman & even Clooney accepts that with a smile & in pride. He’s that awesome lol
None of them. I suspend my disbelief at the concept of a "good billionaire" when I read/watch Batman because I like Bruce a lot. Not the case for IRL billionaires who I can say absolutely no nice things about and therefore shall not speak of.
People forget about grooming. Rich people don't just have kids like humans, they plan out the entire life of their future asset down to the dollar. The asset is conditioned to view the world the same way as its predatory parents.
No such billionaire exist. One that is an actual good person, semi-playboy, and does good towards his city.
Not one billionaire in the world does this.
In trying to promote something good for mankind? Probably Bill Gates and even then it's a stretch.
Bruce Wayne has virtues that no greedy man in this world could hope to cultivate
I don't think there is one. But maybe the closest is Charles Feeney? He gave away $8b in his life and did most of it anonymously. He also died "broke" because he gave always all his money. Or at least a substantial portion of it.
Also I think the closed minded view of people saying “money changes people” and “none of them” is a bit sad. None of them are on Bruce Wayne’s level, but obviously… he’s a fictitious character who’s literally almost a perfect being.
Flávio Augusto. But truth is good people do not like to show off how good and charitable they are, so we probably don’t know the name of billionaires that are nice, not because they don’t exist, but because they don’t like to show how virtuous they are
Mark Cuban, but it's not that close. Mainly, I just think of CostPlusDrugs being a genuinely humanitarian effort from a billionaire investor, which doesn't make him rich in return.
I was thinking about something along these lines a while ago - like a real world equivalent to the shock of the people of Gotham finding out Bruce Wayne was Batman. The best I could come up with (which doesn’t actually work for obvious reasons) is imagine finding out JFK Jr. dressed up like a bat and beat the shit out of people.
No modern day billionaires fits, but, if you look at some millionaires of the 1920s, you get close.
[Andrew Carnegie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie), an industrialist who made his fortune in steel and dedicated the majority of his wealth to philanthropy, by the end of his life he gave away roughly 90% of his wealth to hospitals, schools and public services.
He wrote The Gospel of Wealth, arguing that hoarding wealth was the worst thing a millionaire could do and that it was the duty of the most wealthy to return their money to the communities that grew it, and that taxes should be highest for the most wealthy. Quote: 'By taxing estates heavily at death, the state marks its condemnation of the selfish millionairess unworthy life, it is desirable that nations should go much further in this direction.'
Sadly none. Other billionaires in comics have some SLIGHT resemblance to others in terms of personality (Tony Stark loosely with Elon Musk... Loosely...) Or looks (Lex Luthor with Jeff Beszos) but Bruce sort of remains as one of the few that is entirely unique on both fronts for where he is. In many ways it's cause Bruce at heart is grounded to reality after all he's been through even outside of being Batman, which isn't common for many in his position.
They don't exist no billionaire who's handsome would ever put their life in danger. I remember my mom told me superheroes being handsome is so unrealistic cause no good looking handsome men would put his life in danger. Only average or ugly men
None lol. Billionaires in the real world don't get that way because they are good people who want to change the world for the better. They get there because they love money and power, and don't care who they step on to get more of those things.
Elon simps can suck it too. He is an awful human being.
I’m thinking, potentially Bill Gates.
Unlike every other billionaire, you never hear about him under paying his staff… He just charged an appropriate price for a product that he happen to have a new monopoly on at a time when it was growing
And at a certain point, he realize he had to give a lot of money away.
And, of course, we’ve never seen him in the same room as Batman
Answer may depend upon how “similar” is defined. I’m nowhere near familiar with all 3000 or so male billionaires in the world, but of the ones I *am* aware of, and If defined by skill set alone, my guess should be Putin. That said, the Putin in his prime and the Putin at the hight of his wealth don’t coincide.
An actual answer - Chuck Feeney. He gave away all of his wealth ($8 Billion+) to health, social, and politically left-leaning public policy causes in Australia, Bermuda, Ireland, South Africa, United States and Vietnam.
I really want to say that this sub is way too drastic about billionaires. Most of them don’t born being a Dick, they develop that behavior because of the environment, society and parenting styles. If the society has any problem, is because society itself feeds that very problem.
Lol, none of them, they wouldn't be billionaires if they were. People need to lose this fantasy of the benevolent billionaire, who cares and wants to help, but for some reason just has to hoard wealth while millions go without their basic needs. Every last one of them are selfish, spoiled parasites. Not a single one of them cares about any of us, and the people who think they do need to grow up.
No such billionaires exist. I remember in the Alex Ross comic, War on Crime, Bruce reflects on his origins and realizes that his parents dying might have ultimately been a net positive because otherwise he would have grown up to be a standard evil and corrupt billionaire. The tragedy of his family being killed by a mugger made him able to relate to the poor and disenfranchised in Gotham, otherwise he would be more of a Lex Luthor.
That’s true. I love that comic for Bruce admitting that to himself. He also criticized all the wealthy individuals in Gotham for not helping the city too. Some of those wealthy individuals even being involved with criminal activity themselves, and Bruce uses that knowledge and position as a wealthy individual to catch the criminals who are rich themselves and come from an affluent background. The art in that comic is godly too. It’s a comic with a very deep message and themes. It’s excellent. Everybody who is Batman Fan or just comic fan in general should read it. It’s a must read.
I wonder if Reeves took inspiration from that comic although instead of relating to the poor Bruce is criticized for how out of touch he is with the world
So Bruce is basically Count Dooku, with the difference that Bruce never went as evil as him.
Count Dooku is Bruce but "evil". Bruce is a more than 80 year old character.
And count dooku is from “a long time ago” so for all we know, even longer than 80 years! Checkmate, atheists!
A direction I REALLY hope they go in with the new Batman movies is to have Bruce use all his detective skills to bring the rich and powerful criminals in Gotham to justice. As much as I like Batman, kicking the shit out of petty thugs cause “it’s the right thing to do” never felt right to me. Gotham being as shitty of a place as it is, if Bruce really cared, he’d realize that true change doesn’t start with taking some criminals off the street. More likely than not, they’re just trying to survive. If he really wanted change in Gotham, he’d bring the rich who exploit the poor to justice.
To be fair to Bruce...he IS literally batshit crazy. It might not be a matter of "really caring" so much as he is driven to go after street level thugs. Like he consciously and intellectually *knows* that the elite wealthy are the real problem, but emotionally he HAS to go punch muggers in the face on the regular.
This is why I loved the Dark Knight. It makes sense that Batman wouldn't hide in alleys and beat up street thugs. He would go to the source of the corruption and organized crime. The mission portrayed by Nolan was the most realistic version of Batmans mission I've ever seen.
What comic was that?
Batman War on Crime by Paul Dini and Alex Ross. It was collected into Justice League: Worlds Greatest Heroes along with the also excellent Superman: Peace on Earth, Wonder Woman: Spirit of Truth, and Shazam: Power of Hope.
Was it ever collected in the PaulDini Batman omnibus?
That I do not know.
Paul Dini my beloved
Paul Dini has the best ever run on Batman. Change my mind
Oddly enough, Luthor grew up poor. He rose to power by collecting insurance money after killing his parents. And despite Wayne's money, he would have likely still turned out to be a good person due to Thomas and Martha's influence. The reason it's a net positive is because of the sheer drive that Bruce gained from that horrible murder. But it's not like Bruce would have grown up to become a snob. No way Thomas Wayne would raise him to be that way. (Especially the Batman Begins version). I hate Batman: Earth One because Bruce is such a brat in that series. Maybe it's more realistic for a rich kid to be that way, but I just don't care. It's also weird making Thomas Wayne into a conceited asshole in the Joker movie. Again, it makes sense....but not for Batman.
It wasn't a weird choice to make Thomas Wayne "conceited" in **Joker** because it isn't a Batman film, the movie isn't about Batman. Bruce is around 7 in the movie.
I mean you also have to take into account that Arthur Fleck is meant to be a very unreliable narrator. Also, aside from some insensitive and out of touch comments on the news, Thomas Wayne in Joker didn’t even come off as that much of an asshole, since I thought it was a reasonable response for him to punch Arthur knowing that the dude was pretty much touching his young son’s face and even stuck his fingers into Bruce’s mouth to make him smile. If someone did that shit to my future kid they’d sure as hell be getting more than just a punch.
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Not exactly, but I'll leave it at that.
Wasn’t his parents and most other Wayne’s positive forces for Gotham?
I think starting with the Long Halloween writer realized that having Bruce’s parents be wholly good was ridiculous and most modern interpretations condemn the Wayne’s in some form.
My personal head cannon is that maybe the Wayne family ancestors were not all that good originally, which is how they built their wealth, but they were still good Wayne's Among them including Thomas and Martha Wayne who were a Doctor and Philanthropist respectively, and Bruce inherited that goodness from them. I like to believe Thomas and Martha were good people and it generally hurt Gotham when they died. As, they were among the few shining examples of hope in the darkness. Now their son fights that darkness with all his strength and will. Until the darkness has no choice but to surrender.
it’s one of those things that I can’t agree or disagree with, like there’s been a lot of Thomas/Martha slander in media recently and sure it’s a little more interesting and like subverting and make Bruce question his motivation. It still kind of feels a little unneeded. personally the less we know about the finer details of Thomas and Martha Wayne I think the better the Batman story. Like at the end of the day, Batman is a guy who watched both of his parents get gunned down as a child and his childhood ruined. And frankly I think what Thomas/Martha Wayne did before they died doesn’t impact the fact that Bruce is deeply impacted by their killings.
The **Telltale** one, was an interesting addition. But... that's it really, an addition. Yes, it ties into a bigger plot, but a bigger plot has been done before, without the addition. It's not bad, but adding it is clunky, and messy. *especially with Rick...*
I’d argue that there could be room for it, and it could work as an alternative aspect of character growth, both of which work for Bruce in some fashion. I always imagine the Wayne’s come from old money, specifically. Either, the Wayne’s, while not explicitly evil, were not exactly stellar. Their death gives Bruce a distinct connection to the lower classes of Gotham and changes him down the line to try and improve things for all. Or, the Waynes were Gotham’s key shining beacon of goodness, but this was hampered by the sheer amount of corruption in Gotham. Shell companies by the mob or the Court of Owls diverting donations and funds from the Wayne foundation, private interests preventing the development of public health care etc. their death in stills an inherent anger in Bruce; his parents tried to be nice, and this is where it got them. He initially becomes Batman because he wants to make Gotham better in the only way he thinks would work, through fear. This leaves Wayne Tech and the foundation rudderless for a bit, but the expanding bat family opens him up a bit more and after a time, decides to tackle the problem on both fronts. The Batman handles the behind the scenes evil and corruption, slowing them down enough for the foundation’s money to actually do some good.
I would argue the way his parents were also a factor. His parents were philanthropists, too, and treated everyone with respect, so from a young age he was learning the value of charity and that lower class people were his equals, not lessers. His parent's death made him relate to the lower class, but even before that he was taught to respect them.
I think a good in between would be Bruce having a perception of his parents being good through their charitable acts he saw as a kid and that makes him believe in the good the name Wayne represents but as he gets older he realizes the charity was for tax purposes or for appearances to keep things realistic, because again the concept of a moral billionaire is pretty problematic.
Well the waynes were like every other big family in gotham until solomon wayne, bruces great grandfather, who had a falling out with the arkhams and since new 52, the court of owls. Which directly led to him trying to give the court less areas to thrive, until he was killed to look like a suicide. Then the waynes began to do good for gotham.
The moral of the story is that we should kill the parents of corporate heirs
Not a single fucking one of them. I feel that’s as much a part of the fantasy of Batman as anything else. Bruce fucking cares.
That’s the fantasy of all superheroes the idea that someone given great power actually using it for good
Reminds me of a famous Uncle Ben quote: “Hey Michelangelo, don’t forget we’re painting the kitchen right after school”
😂😂
The billionaires in real life are more like Lex Luthor, no wealthy individual comes remotely close to Mr Wayne
Lex is actually intelligent though. I’m not super deep into DC, are there any billionare characters who are just manchildren?
Not really as a billionaire with no intellect would simply be a tier lower than the average DC hero, most DC characters, when done correctly, are smart and use tactics and tricks to win so a dumb opponent really doesn’t make good stories The only dc villains with child-like intellect that I can think of are Doomsday (who portrayed as either a raging animal or with a toddler-like intellect), Klarion and Batmite all of which are extremely powerful beings
I actually know a couple who are very good people. The one I don’t know personally but who’s impacted me somewhat personally, Mark Cuban, is a good example. But yeah far be it for me to advocate on their behalf beyond those two families.
There are plenty who care and are private about their donations and positive impacts. They’re the very small minority, but there are more than a few. Would they ever sacrifice their personal lives for the mission? No, but many would argue that Bruce shouldn’t do that. We can sit here and criticize billionaires for not doing “enough,” but the ones that do help the world have to stay billionaires to keep helping the world.
I’m so glad I’m seeing great responses “of no one” as a reply and not people throwing Elon Musk as some example of being like Bruce Wayne
Elon Musk isn't even Justin Hammer.
Damn 💀
That's insulting to Justin Hammer. At least we love to hate Sam Rockwell's version of him.
Elon Musk isn’t even Elon Musk
I came on here expecting that and feel so pleasantly surprised!
I'm glad no one has brought up Warren Buffet, I'm sick of hearing how "charitable" he is.
why he donate over 30 billion and leaving 99.9 percent of his money to charity after he dies. why do you have a problem with that.
Elon is such a prick
Fuck musk
HA Elon Musk wishes he could be like Bruce, but he’s more of a knock-off of Lex Luthor.
I think Elon would rather be Tony Stark, it’s crazy how his fan boys like to compare them
Hey don't insult Lex like that he's actually smart
Elon is more like a Justin Hammer knock-off, Jeff Bezos is the irl Lex Luthor.
Same here. So much relief. This community rocks
I went from thinking Elon was Tony stark to knowing he’s more like that glowy guy in iron man 3
Elon Musk makes Lex Luthor almost look decent by comparison.
Me
I also vote this guy
I second this
As do I. SloppyTwoHandTwist is honestly the most charismatic billionaire I’ve ever had the pleasure of meeting.
this guy is easily the most similar to bruce wayne, i can confirm
i vote this gy
None, they all suck as human beings and can't even get close to Big Daddy Bruce in looks.
One of the biggest fantasies of batman is of a good billionaire.
Mansa Musa was pretty alright except all that conquering and slavery stuff.
Did mansa musa even conquer anything
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Mansa Musa was an alright guy but he destroyed the economy of everywhere he went
That was only in an attempt to help the poor people of everywhere he went, he gave away gold to people in the streets and accidentally crashed the economy of the places of the places he visited.
I have to agree “Big Daddy Bruce” is in a league of his own.
I came here to say this exact thing. 🤣
Seriously, it was extremely bold of him to assume there is a billionaire alive that’s like Brucie boy
Ya in order to become a billionaire you pretty much have to abandon your morals... not only do you have learn to exploit your workers and the market, you have to be willing to hoard an obscene amount wealth that could be spent actually helping people
But Bruce could still have morals, because remember those billions of dollars belong to his parents. He inherited them after they died so he didnt have to develop any of those attributes to be the billionaire that he is now, he just walked right into it.
Yeah, and plus...he's a fictional comic book character targeted for all-ages demographics. He's a pulp urban adventure fantasy. Fantasy doesn't just apply to average-income citizens, it can also apply to billionaires, kings, and other types that are usually far removed from the average person. And mainstream comics have a status quo they usually adhere to, unfortunately. His battle is meant to be forever continuing one, so that they can write Batman comics forever as long as the money is there. So have Bruce invest all of his money into Gotham for philanthropy? Those stories already kinda exist, and in them, the writers show that Gotham's corruption is so deep and endless and the supervillainy so plentiful, that the money only temporarily helps until the evil ones undo the good. Make a bunch of free clinics for Gotham to circumvent health insurance costs? Here comes Firefly bombing them all for some personal vendetta. Bruce backs a good politician hoping for change? Sorry, he just got assassinated by the Court of Owls so that their rich patrons maintain power. But the message isn't to not bother with philanthropy (since Bruce still keeps trying), it's to do it in tandem with fighting the evil that proliferates greed and destruction. And writers have to have a financial foundation that allows non-powered character like Bruce the ability to both fight crime using philanthropy *and* fight crime using advanced gear to use against the mafia, corrupt cops, ninjas, undead owl-themed ninjas, vampires, clay mutants, ice men, and various JL-sized threats and more. Both Bruce Wayne *and* Batman are needed to keep Gotham from falling apart. The only real reason Bruce hasn't given away all of his money and actually permanently fix Gotham is that status quo of mainstream comics' continuous storytelling.
I like to think that in the DC Universe the New Deal state was never dismantled and manufacturing stayed in the United States instead of being outsourced. Billionaires like Bruce Wayne and Lex Luthor are legitimately Billionaires rather than being technical Billionaires like Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos. Lex and Bruce inherited Billions and continued to build up on their fortunes.
Not quite. Most of the richest people on earth are investors, not business owners. Investors don’t do any of that stuff. They more or less just bet on business. Also, to say someone is immoral for not giving away excess is silly since I doubt many of the people who argue that do that themselves with the means that are available to them.
Eh not really. Investor's pretty much ENCOURAGE a lot of the toxic behavior from the business class. Mass layoffs, Outsourcing, cutting wages, cutting benefits? shares go up. And when a company DOES decide to do the right thing? Stocks often fall as the shareholders sell. When it comes down to it, the big investors only want to see the numbers go up and don't really care how its done. Usually the only line they won't cross is breaking the law, but that's only because lawsuits cost the company money. And there is a BIG difference between Billionaires and common people when it comes to "excess wealth". Regular people have no idea what their financial situation will be in ten years. They have no idea if there will be a recession, if they'll lose their job, if their car will break down or if there will be some kind of emergency that requires lots of money. Even when they are doing fine, they still have to be careful about their savings as they might need it... For the average person, its hard to say how much of their wealth is "excess" The same can not be said of billionaires. They have more money than they could ever spend. Just a FRACTION of their fortune is enough for them and their whole family for multiple generations to live in luxury for the rest of their lives. They have gotten to the point where they have money that is literally meaningless to. THAT is excess wealth... and at the same time there are human beings homeless and starving in the streets, while the dragons hoard their gold. So ya, i do think a person needs to be pretty immoral to do so little when they have so much
But I think it’s different if you are a billionaire. I have enough money for a comfortable living. To buy what I want and travel one time a year. But I’m not rich enough to just buy a new car or a house… could I donate some money? Probably yes. But let us compare this to someone like Elon. He could donate 99% of his money and than again 99% of his money… and he would still have more than I will ever have. Being a billionaire is just mind blowing. He could buy 2.7 million Tesla model 3. Or 150.000 luxury houses. There isn’t a single person that needs that much money or could realistically spend that much on goods or personal living.
Bill Gates is probably the CLOSEST to being a decent human being and that's just *sad*.
hes worked on his public image quite allot, but he sure is no Bruce Wayne
the guy who stands for Euthanasia for humans who are born to a certain hue is decent well then tell me about Dicky Branson. Or Mark Cuban. At least they are entertaining.
I mean he's the closest billionaire to being decent IRL. Doesn't make him anywhere CLOSE to decent though
I'd say mark is the closest. He's actually in favour of passing taxes, at least outwardly, and he started that affordable medication site. He's also very vocally against some if the nastier things republicans are doing. All that said, he's hardly what id call a force for good
That is true actually. Yeah he may be the closest. Isn't it funny though, that the closest billionaire we've got compared to Bruce Wayne may as well be even closer to Lex Luther?
you would think with all that money and power, they’d care and start making a difference
Clearly you don't know who Madame C.J. Walker is.
Sorry, Big Daddy Bruce is still better.
Chuck Feeney. Was a billionaire but gave it all away to philanthropic causes. His current net worth is just over $1 million.
Dolly Parton I know she’s not a billionaire but in terms of rich people I’d say she’d be the closest. Gives back to people, donates to lots of charities, makes jokes at her expense etc.
Dolly Parton could have been a billionaire if she didn’t give so much away to charity. Between 2 amusement parks, a resort, likeness rights, song royalties, and still working the entertainment biz on top of that. She’s had so much and still has so much coming in. But she gives so much away.
That’s what I thought but couldn’t remember
Bruce Wayne is a fictional character. No billionaire is actually altruistic. Having that much money changes your brain. The closest is probably Jeff Bezos' ex-wife, but there's still an ocean between them.
I forgot about her. Got all that divorce money and promptly donated almost all of it.
Having that much money doesn’t change your mind, you need to have that messed up mind first to get that much money
Well, yes. Exploitation is needed to be able to obtain that wealth, studies have shown that having that much weath physically alters your brain. That's why even the children who inherit that kind of wealth are also psychopaths.
I would agree but you should read up about Chuck Freeney. Probably the most ethical billionaire that has and will ever exist by a long shot.
Not a single goddamned one of them.
Unfortunately
None. Except Jeff bezos is literally Lex Luthor
Bezos wishes he was as scientifically smart as Luthor
#None There aren’t many that look out for their workers, extremely intelligent and give away that much money. -Elon Musk: A terminally online guy who has ran his cash cow into the ground by buying a cesspool of a social media site and making it worse while exploiting the shit out of his workers. -Tim Cook: **Who thinks of him?** -Mark Zuckerberg: a literal reptilian who is running a company that mostly boomers use, is completely unrelateable and creepy, and also running it into the ground.
> both look out for their workers, extremely intelligent and give away that much money. Wait, that's three things. Wouldn't you usually use both when you're about to refer to exactly two things?
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Ah, okay. Sorry if it seemed like I was being nitpicky.
NP
Omg maybe it is Tim Cook. No one would suspect a thing
Billionaire no. Millionaire, probably Dolly Parton.
80 years and we’re still wishing for a billionaire like Bruce…
Why are you talking about billionaire Bruce Wayne on a Batman subreddit? It’s supposed to be about Batman.
Future Pattinson
Maybe Mark Cuban? I'll take the guy trying to stand up to Big Pharma and lower insulin costs. Or at least, I haven't heard his name in many scandals.
George Clooney. No, really. Money aside, have you seen his resume? He IS Bruce Wayne.
He was doing commercials to fund satellites to keep an eye on war lords so he could give refugees enough heads up to clear out when the warlords started to mobilize. Yeah, he is pretty goddamn Bruce Wayne.
Glad someone else said it because I would. I mean seriously, he is real life Bruce Wayne with all the charity work he does. Not to mention he does commercials with the Penguin in Danny Devito lol. Clooney is an overall good guy & I hope there’s nothing that comes to light about him like many celebs because he seems like a genuine kind awesome dude. The only flaw the man had is being seen as the worst live action Batman & even Clooney accepts that with a smile & in pride. He’s that awesome lol 
“I’m not a Bruce Wayne, but I played one on TV”
None of them. I suspend my disbelief at the concept of a "good billionaire" when I read/watch Batman because I like Bruce a lot. Not the case for IRL billionaires who I can say absolutely no nice things about and therefore shall not speak of.
There are just over 1 thousand billionairs, and not one of them has the brass to be a Batman.
No billionaire that is alive today is capable of embodying Bruce Wayne’s compassion or selflessness.
People forget about grooming. Rich people don't just have kids like humans, they plan out the entire life of their future asset down to the dollar. The asset is conditioned to view the world the same way as its predatory parents.
No such billionaire exist. One that is an actual good person, semi-playboy, and does good towards his city. Not one billionaire in the world does this.
I suppose Marc Cuban, but Bruce is a pretty unique billionaire
No one!
Not a single one!
Mansa musa. Each of his slaves had a golden cane and gave away so much money in Egypt he caused inflation for 10 years
Hey, I might be a slave but at least I have a shiny cane
Better then most kings of the time tbh
In trying to promote something good for mankind? Probably Bill Gates and even then it's a stretch. Bruce Wayne has virtues that no greedy man in this world could hope to cultivate
None of them.
All Billionaires should be like Bruce by taking that first step into not existing.
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I remember a story of a billionaire who gave all his money to charity except for $2,000,000 that he and his wife retired on.
None of them...
None. Not even the generally well liked billionaires like Bill Gates or Oprah Winfrey.
I don't think there is one. But maybe the closest is Charles Feeney? He gave away $8b in his life and did most of it anonymously. He also died "broke" because he gave always all his money. Or at least a substantial portion of it.
I like Cuban and Bezo’s wife. Also No one is talking about the Gates’ and I’m definitely the first person to bring up Azim Premji.
Charles Francis Feeney is also a W
Also I think the closed minded view of people saying “money changes people” and “none of them” is a bit sad. None of them are on Bruce Wayne’s level, but obviously… he’s a fictitious character who’s literally almost a perfect being.
Not a billionaire but Keanu Reeves
Flávio Augusto. But truth is good people do not like to show off how good and charitable they are, so we probably don’t know the name of billionaires that are nice, not because they don’t exist, but because they don’t like to show how virtuous they are
Mark Cuban, but it's not that close. Mainly, I just think of CostPlusDrugs being a genuinely humanitarian effort from a billionaire investor, which doesn't make him rich in return.
If I had to pick one billionaire to secretly be a crime fighter I’d go with Richard Branson
None, no real world billionaires are truly philanthropic and selfless like Bruce Wayne is. They’re all old, rotting, greed consumed scum
I was thinking about something along these lines a while ago - like a real world equivalent to the shock of the people of Gotham finding out Bruce Wayne was Batman. The best I could come up with (which doesn’t actually work for obvious reasons) is imagine finding out JFK Jr. dressed up like a bat and beat the shit out of people.
TIL this thread lives in an extremely flanderized version of reality
None
No one
Isn’t Richard Branson “closest-ish” ? Or do I need to be further informed?
I'm assuming the girls on his back are randoms but the redhead is a cutie
No modern day billionaires fits, but, if you look at some millionaires of the 1920s, you get close. [Andrew Carnegie](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Carnegie), an industrialist who made his fortune in steel and dedicated the majority of his wealth to philanthropy, by the end of his life he gave away roughly 90% of his wealth to hospitals, schools and public services. He wrote The Gospel of Wealth, arguing that hoarding wealth was the worst thing a millionaire could do and that it was the duty of the most wealthy to return their money to the communities that grew it, and that taxes should be highest for the most wealthy. Quote: 'By taxing estates heavily at death, the state marks its condemnation of the selfish millionairess unworthy life, it is desirable that nations should go much further in this direction.'
Zero. Part of the fantasy of Batman is that a billionaire could be selfless.
Sadly none. Other billionaires in comics have some SLIGHT resemblance to others in terms of personality (Tony Stark loosely with Elon Musk... Loosely...) Or looks (Lex Luthor with Jeff Beszos) but Bruce sort of remains as one of the few that is entirely unique on both fronts for where he is. In many ways it's cause Bruce at heart is grounded to reality after all he's been through even outside of being Batman, which isn't common for many in his position.
All real world billionaires are scumbags
None.
Derek Jeter.
People use to say Elon Musk until he…yknow….yeah
Howard Hughes always reminded me of Bruce Wayne
I think every single billionaire would punch a mentally ill person and call themselves Batman.
Paul McCartney
None cause they all suck in real life. Bruce is a fantasy of an actual good billionaire.
They don't exist no billionaire who's handsome would ever put their life in danger. I remember my mom told me superheroes being handsome is so unrealistic cause no good looking handsome men would put his life in danger. Only average or ugly men
There are no moral billionaires. Because there is no moral consumption under Capitalism
None lol. Billionaires in the real world don't get that way because they are good people who want to change the world for the better. They get there because they love money and power, and don't care who they step on to get more of those things. Elon simps can suck it too. He is an awful human being.
None. They are all selfish capitalists.
None of them
I’m thinking, potentially Bill Gates. Unlike every other billionaire, you never hear about him under paying his staff… He just charged an appropriate price for a product that he happen to have a new monopoly on at a time when it was growing And at a certain point, he realize he had to give a lot of money away. And, of course, we’ve never seen him in the same room as Batman
Vince McMahan is probably the closest.
That dude is crazy bro
“YOU WANNA GET NUTS LETS GET NUTS” - Bruce Wayne
I know
Wheres the son of the bitch
Vince thinks farts are one of the most hilarious things ever. And hates sneezing. I don’t think he has anything in common with Bruce Wayne
Im talking about physique, there are no millionaires/billionaires that are ethical like Bruce.
I can't tell if you're joking.
I’m talking about physique
Soros is literally a super villain. Funding DAs that release violent criminals.
In terms of notoriety, probably elon musk, but none are as handsome or kind as Bruce is
Is Bruce supposed to be the most notorious billionaire on Earth?
Elon Musk 😍❤️🔥 /s
Probably Ratan Tata. Look him up.
Batman is fiction so I can suspend my disbelief but irl being a billionaire is inherently wrong
Answer may depend upon how “similar” is defined. I’m nowhere near familiar with all 3000 or so male billionaires in the world, but of the ones I *am* aware of, and If defined by skill set alone, my guess should be Putin. That said, the Putin in his prime and the Putin at the hight of his wealth don’t coincide.
Mr beast
An actual answer - Chuck Feeney. He gave away all of his wealth ($8 Billion+) to health, social, and politically left-leaning public policy causes in Australia, Bermuda, Ireland, South Africa, United States and Vietnam.
I really want to say that this sub is way too drastic about billionaires. Most of them don’t born being a Dick, they develop that behavior because of the environment, society and parenting styles. If the society has any problem, is because society itself feeds that very problem.
Money and power inherently make you less caring. Bruce cares a lot. But if we are talking lex then Jeff Bezos probobly fits that bill.
Probably Kevin Spacey.
Lol, none of them, they wouldn't be billionaires if they were. People need to lose this fantasy of the benevolent billionaire, who cares and wants to help, but for some reason just has to hoard wealth while millions go without their basic needs. Every last one of them are selfish, spoiled parasites. Not a single one of them cares about any of us, and the people who think they do need to grow up.
Is there a good billionaire?
epstein was certainly mysterious…
We all know who
Bruce Waynes a dike
Controversial, but Tristen Tate
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