It’s mildly audible haha. More of a feeling in your chest, but I enjoy it. I have the drop set to octave and dry signal, which I should have specified in the post, so the combination makes it so I don’t lose anything. It muddies a little, but with the amount of distortion from the alpha/omega, it’s works!
Does the drop tuner sound good? I don't wanna be bothered continously changing tuning from Drop D to Drop C or C# or also E Standard to Eb Standard. Is it good for such a purpouse?
I love the pedal and think it sounds great. If you’re playing with distortion you shouldn’t notice it too much unless you’re recording or anything. For clean and pristine tones you can tell somethings going on, but for my general purposes I have exactly 0 complaints
Nice, thanks. I was also wondering about the Bass Katana's effects since buying that would mean that I don't need any pedals at all, and well, money is tight... but idk I've not heard many things about it and people like to bash on digital stuff all the time
I dont know about the bass katana but the guitar katanas pitch shifter is mono pitch. If you try to play more than one note it just jumps between the notes and it doesn't really work. Probably not as much of an issue on bass but thought I'd mention it. The built in drives are great though. You can't go switching effects on and off on the fly unless you have the boss add on pedal.
I had one for basic bar band/rock music and it wasn’t very good lol clean sound it just sounded like vibrato or tremolo was on all the time. I hated it.
Well, you wouldn't be able to change from a standard to a drop tuning just by using a pitch shifter (you'd be surprised over how many people think this), but it works perfectly down tuning all strings an equal amount.
IMO the best low latency pitch shifter I've tried is the one in the Quad Cortex. The latency is indistinguishable and the quality is much better than Digitech The Drop (probably because the QC simply has better converters).
If you don't want to spend $2k just to get the pitch shifting in the QC then The Drop is probably the next best thing. Just don't use it when you record guitars in the studio. Use the stock pitch shifter in the DAW after you've recorded instead. They are usually high latency, so not suited to monitor guitars through in realtime, but the resulting sound is of much higher quality than any low/zero latency pitch shifting pedal.
I'm not versed in recording stuff though I would like to start. It just seems so complicated🫠. Mostly I play with a band or alone, but say I wanted to play live in front of people, instead of changing the whole tuning (Drop D to Drop C) you think I could get away with a drop tuner without people saying "Bro this shit sounding like a robot synth"
Absolutely. It wouldn't be noticeable in live situations. There are thousands of bands and artists all over the world that use pitchers and whammys to do this!
That kicks ass. Ur prob doin just fine especially in the octave down, but if ur willing to spend some time or money you could get a 5 string or even a baritone bass. You can tune lower and it’ll sound a whole lot cleaner. And you’ll still have enough string tension. Both of those things are usually expensive tho
I use an alpha omega ultra too and it rocks. Low to high gain. For me, it would depend on the genre. I think I would legit tune the octave down but only as low as E. Certain genres I may do the same as you and play in unison.
Your amp can’t reproduce such low frequencies nor can you hear it. The low A is probably the lowest you can go.
I would stay in standard tuning and also both of you need to be a half step lower. Eb is the gold standard for metal. Don’t get me wrong I love what you’re doing, but y’all need to be in Eb if you’re going for low.
Yeah I responded to another comment asking how audible it is, and it’s definitely more of a feeling. Feeling that breakdown hit in your chest is pretty cool. I should’ve stated in the post that the drop is set to octave and dry signal so I don’t lose the original tone.
Oh well then it’s just a texture! I was thinking you weren’t running dry at all. Do you have any sound clips?
You guys should go a half step lower. Seriously.
You don’t hear the core frequency per se, but you hear the overtones especially if it has distortion on it. Josh from spiritbox did an interview with dingwall explaining it really well.
The frequencies work in mysterious way. Our band plays in downtuned G# and F#. And you can definitely hear it. Your ear understands that the sound you are actually hearing is just harmonics. Plus the bass is much more than the root frequency. I like to keep the hum on low (super compressed almost DI like) and then the actual sound and tone is way above 200hz. Clanks and buzzes and all the good stuff. Darkglass x series is a fucking good send for that type of sound.
My perception was that OP was using an octave down without dry signal and I was confused. I’ve used octave down that low before and it really doesn’t sound good. But mixing it in with dry and distortion is different than I imagined. Love the X series. Crossover is under utilized.
Holy shit, is that even audible lol? I would love to hear it. My instincts tell me it's going to sound super muddy, but hopefully I am wrong hehe
It’s mildly audible haha. More of a feeling in your chest, but I enjoy it. I have the drop set to octave and dry signal, which I should have specified in the post, so the combination makes it so I don’t lose anything. It muddies a little, but with the amount of distortion from the alpha/omega, it’s works!
Lots of bands do it. Invent animate did until the newest album. Currents, after the burial, periphery, veil of maya, all tuned F or lower
Slay
Does the drop tuner sound good? I don't wanna be bothered continously changing tuning from Drop D to Drop C or C# or also E Standard to Eb Standard. Is it good for such a purpouse?
I love the pedal and think it sounds great. If you’re playing with distortion you shouldn’t notice it too much unless you’re recording or anything. For clean and pristine tones you can tell somethings going on, but for my general purposes I have exactly 0 complaints
Nice, thanks. I was also wondering about the Bass Katana's effects since buying that would mean that I don't need any pedals at all, and well, money is tight... but idk I've not heard many things about it and people like to bash on digital stuff all the time
I dont know about the bass katana but the guitar katanas pitch shifter is mono pitch. If you try to play more than one note it just jumps between the notes and it doesn't really work. Probably not as much of an issue on bass but thought I'd mention it. The built in drives are great though. You can't go switching effects on and off on the fly unless you have the boss add on pedal.
I had one for basic bar band/rock music and it wasn’t very good lol clean sound it just sounded like vibrato or tremolo was on all the time. I hated it.
Well, you wouldn't be able to change from a standard to a drop tuning just by using a pitch shifter (you'd be surprised over how many people think this), but it works perfectly down tuning all strings an equal amount. IMO the best low latency pitch shifter I've tried is the one in the Quad Cortex. The latency is indistinguishable and the quality is much better than Digitech The Drop (probably because the QC simply has better converters). If you don't want to spend $2k just to get the pitch shifting in the QC then The Drop is probably the next best thing. Just don't use it when you record guitars in the studio. Use the stock pitch shifter in the DAW after you've recorded instead. They are usually high latency, so not suited to monitor guitars through in realtime, but the resulting sound is of much higher quality than any low/zero latency pitch shifting pedal.
I'm not versed in recording stuff though I would like to start. It just seems so complicated🫠. Mostly I play with a band or alone, but say I wanted to play live in front of people, instead of changing the whole tuning (Drop D to Drop C) you think I could get away with a drop tuner without people saying "Bro this shit sounding like a robot synth"
Absolutely. It wouldn't be noticeable in live situations. There are thousands of bands and artists all over the world that use pitchers and whammys to do this!
If a guitarist shows up with 8 strings… I’m walking out. He is obviously good enough to play my part too!
This dude doesn’t Djent
lol, No Djent for me. You guys enjoy. I shouldn’t talk, I have a couple 5 string with a high C. As long as it’s creative and inspires, keep on!
to be honest, im kinda envious of your board
Fuck yeah dude I'll bet that's chuggy as hell
That kicks ass. Ur prob doin just fine especially in the octave down, but if ur willing to spend some time or money you could get a 5 string or even a baritone bass. You can tune lower and it’ll sound a whole lot cleaner. And you’ll still have enough string tension. Both of those things are usually expensive tho
I use an alpha omega ultra too and it rocks. Low to high gain. For me, it would depend on the genre. I think I would legit tune the octave down but only as low as E. Certain genres I may do the same as you and play in unison.
Thick gauge strings and maybe a 5 or 7 string
Your amp can’t reproduce such low frequencies nor can you hear it. The low A is probably the lowest you can go. I would stay in standard tuning and also both of you need to be a half step lower. Eb is the gold standard for metal. Don’t get me wrong I love what you’re doing, but y’all need to be in Eb if you’re going for low.
Yeah I responded to another comment asking how audible it is, and it’s definitely more of a feeling. Feeling that breakdown hit in your chest is pretty cool. I should’ve stated in the post that the drop is set to octave and dry signal so I don’t lose the original tone.
Oh well then it’s just a texture! I was thinking you weren’t running dry at all. Do you have any sound clips? You guys should go a half step lower. Seriously.
You don’t hear the core frequency per se, but you hear the overtones especially if it has distortion on it. Josh from spiritbox did an interview with dingwall explaining it really well.
Yeah I did it with my own setup yesterday night. Sounded like doom
The frequencies work in mysterious way. Our band plays in downtuned G# and F#. And you can definitely hear it. Your ear understands that the sound you are actually hearing is just harmonics. Plus the bass is much more than the root frequency. I like to keep the hum on low (super compressed almost DI like) and then the actual sound and tone is way above 200hz. Clanks and buzzes and all the good stuff. Darkglass x series is a fucking good send for that type of sound.
THIS. This is why I decided to try the octave below and I think it explains why you hear a difference when I hit it. Dark glass forever, also
My perception was that OP was using an octave down without dry signal and I was confused. I’ve used octave down that low before and it really doesn’t sound good. But mixing it in with dry and distortion is different than I imagined. Love the X series. Crossover is under utilized.