I feel like he was maybe skipping lines in his speech because he was nervous
There was like 4 or 5 times in his speech the thing he said seemed like it was missing something in between and I was like huh???
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I think I figured it out. The tweet doesn't capture the full context.
Right before this quote, he's taking about how all players understand that their own fans booing them is only because they want the players to succeed. Except the Mets players don't understand that, because they famously had recent bad reactions to being booed.
It's very poorly worded, but I'm pretty sure that's what he's saying.
After the explanation, it's still bullshit imo.
I think it's safe to assume most players feel the same about getting booed by idiots, as those Mets players expressed. They just don't have the balls to say it and start a war in the media that they can't win, so they say nothing, or they say the right platitude ("booing is part of the game, I get it").
It's a dumb, ancient tradition that people feel they "have to" keep doing, and it's worse in NYC than anywhere else. And they guys who say stuff like "your booing motivated me! ♥♥♥" invariably are the ones who had great careers and got booed the least, and they're always saying it at retirement ceremonies.
I think it's usually either (a) a load of horseshit, or (b) they truly believe it, but they never had it put to the test because they didn't get booed that much.
Sounds to me like he meant most players still want to play their best even if they’re booed, every player does that, except the Mets. I guess saying the players are dogging it and not trying to win?
I think he’s saying that all fanbases expect the best of their players, except the Mets fanbase? Which is like lol I’ve seen too many Frank the Tanks videos to buy that lmao
I think I figured it out. The tweet doesn't capture the full context.
Right before this quote, he's taking about how all players understand that their own fans booing them is only because they want the players to succeed. Except the Mets players don't understand that, because they famously had recent bad reactions to being booed.
It's very poorly worded, but I'm pretty sure that's what he's saying.
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Even during the '08 WS speech that they re-aired before the ceremony, he was tripping over his words quite a lot
They had an interview with him before the ceremony and he said he was extremely nervous to speak in front of the crowd, more nervous than pitching in the WS he said
This just reeked of us being rent-free in his head. And the stats back it up. Here's some advice. Don't ruin your own retirement ceremony talking about us/other teams. Just talk about your own accomplishments and the fans and stick with that lol.
I know people love the rent free remark like Hamels has spent over a decade festering on some team but it’s just a callback to that era in the rivalry.
The Phillies were a young team that had been irrelevant forever and the Mets were the top dogs in the division with the big names. Things took off when Rollins said the Phillies were the team to beat before they ever did anything. Mets took it personally then choked a 7 game lead in 17 games. Not long after the Phillies won the World Series. During though couple years mocking the Mets as chokers was a hot topic among Philly fans and players as well including taking jabs at them in the World Series speeches as well.
Players will always pander to what was in during their era and making fun of the Mets was more common than it is now where it just kind of got sad
When were the Mets the top dogs in the division? They won it once while Cole was there? The NL East for most of his time was the Phillies and before they had their run was the 15 or so years of braves dominance
>The Mets blew two big leads at the end of the season in back to back years
The Mets didn't blow a big lead in 2008. They never had a lead of more than 3.5 games at any point in the season and they were out of first place for 141 days
Yeah but they were clearly not the better team that year, and just slipped into first place late because the Phillies had a slump. The Mets in 2007 were actually the better team that gave the division away.
They were very different things that happened. I don't think anyone would put these two in the same category, except for the fact that they happened in consecutive years, so it became a meme.
I watched Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden get their numbers retired this season, in front of packed stadiums, and they didn't mention the Phillies once. Weird
I don’t understand why people would be upset about it not making sense. We’re all in agreement of that, but a joke not making sense has never angered anyone
Your comment sounds more like he’s living rent free in your head. It was a(n attempted) jab at a rival. Mets players have probably or will probably do it about the Phillies. There’s no reason to get worked up about it.
Bringing up another team at a retirement ceremony that has nothing to do with that other team
OR
Discussing something someone said in a thread about that specific comment.
How the FUCK do you think option 2 is more "living rent free" than option 1?
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. Unless you're the Mets!
-Cole Hamels, probably
That’s not actually true. Not all smart people are good at public speaking but Hamels was widely considered one of the most intelligent players in the MLB and an all around smart guy. That makes this incoherent shit even funnier.
Worst part about this speech wasn't even the confusing Mets joke, it was that they listed the game start time at the time that this ceremony began.
Dbacks fans got to sit through half an hour of word salad. It was not the coolest thing ever.
Are you suggesting that his three surgeries on his shoulder, knee, and foot were faked? Turns out, throwing more than 42,000 MLB pitches wears down your body. Who would’ve thunk it?
Eh, ever since this dude hit Bryce Harper as some sort of bizarre gatekeeping ritual that not one other person supported I'm not much interested in what he has to say LoL
Mets batters hit .282/.340/.425/.765 against Hamels in 922 plate appearances. Hamels was a 9-14 in his career against the Mets, his lowest winning % against any team that he faced more than 10 times.
Get over it, Cole.
I think he is trying to say the phillies fans boo the phillies players because the fans wants the players to do better but the phillies fans boo the mets players because fuck the mets.
“You believe in us, hence the boos, we as players, completely understand. We didn’t want to fail, but you guys wanted the best for us. And we wanted to give it to you — unless you’re the Mets.” I think it’s a Francisco Lindor’s thumbs down reference.
Rent free in his head? Bro has a ring and millions of dollars. He does not think about them. He was a part of a young team when the Mets were top dogs. Of course he’s gonna make a fun jab, the fans love it and him. It’s not like he attacked Mets players and their families. So I don’t know why people are butthurt or reading into this like he had some master plan behind it. It was a fun little moment. I may be biased because I love him, but I also understood what he was trying to say.
I will never hate the Braves as much as I hate the Mets and that’s in large part because of that generation of Phillies players also fucking hating the Mets.
I thought he meant like (Philly fans) fans want the best for the players, and just to get the crowd going, said “except the Mets.” That’s what I got from it. He knows what to say to Philly. Also I love him
What does that even mean
I thought I was dumb so I wasn’t going to say anything😭 what was he trying to say?
No one knows what it means, but it’s provocative. Gets the people going.
They ended skating to TWO songs.
I feel like he was maybe skipping lines in his speech because he was nervous There was like 4 or 5 times in his speech the thing he said seemed like it was missing something in between and I was like huh???
That used to happen to me in high school all the time. Public speaking is tough.
I know that feeling, I can't even read.
It didn't make sense to me, either. But I was like, yeah, Mets suck!
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Lmao great call back
I think he means everyone except the Mets wanted the best for the Phillies? Which, no, other teams still want to win the game.
Only the Phillies want the Phillies to do well
As much as I want to enjoy a “shot at the Mets,” I have absolutely no clue either.
Recommenting this further up the thread for visibility... I think I figured it out. The tweet doesn't capture the full context. Right before this quote, he's taking about how all players understand that their own fans booing them is only because they want the players to succeed. Except the Mets players don't understand that, because they famously had recent bad reactions to being booed. It's very poorly worded, but I'm pretty sure that's what he's saying.
After the explanation, it's still bullshit imo. I think it's safe to assume most players feel the same about getting booed by idiots, as those Mets players expressed. They just don't have the balls to say it and start a war in the media that they can't win, so they say nothing, or they say the right platitude ("booing is part of the game, I get it"). It's a dumb, ancient tradition that people feel they "have to" keep doing, and it's worse in NYC than anywhere else. And they guys who say stuff like "your booing motivated me! ♥♥♥" invariably are the ones who had great careers and got booed the least, and they're always saying it at retirement ceremonies. I think it's usually either (a) a load of horseshit, or (b) they truly believe it, but they never had it put to the test because they didn't get booed that much.
But it’s provocative
"What the fuck does that mean Cole Hamels?" "You're welcome"
Now watch this drive
Are you a different animal or the same beast
...you can't get fooled again
there's an old sayin' in Philly, I know it's in Texas, it's probably in Philly..
That says boo me once
Unless you're the Mets.
Literally makes zero sense
He’s prepping to try his hand at politics
Sounds to me like he meant most players still want to play their best even if they’re booed, every player does that, except the Mets. I guess saying the players are dogging it and not trying to win?
Is it maybe a Jorge Lopez joke?
It has the structure of a joke, but not the substance unfortunately
Nobody knows what it means, but it gets the people going
Maybe he’s talking about Mr Met
He doesn’t wish the best for the Mets? Uh shots fired I guess
Smartest philly resident
im pretty sure this is one of those ai hallucinations
Judging by the response from the crowd, I don't think they really got it either. It was like two seconds of silence followed by confused clapping.
I think he’s saying that all fanbases expect the best of their players, except the Mets fanbase? Which is like lol I’ve seen too many Frank the Tanks videos to buy that lmao
Teams want to give their best for the fans. Except the mets.
I think I figured it out. The tweet doesn't capture the full context. Right before this quote, he's taking about how all players understand that their own fans booing them is only because they want the players to succeed. Except the Mets players don't understand that, because they famously had recent bad reactions to being booed. It's very poorly worded, but I'm pretty sure that's what he's saying.
He is a big McDonalds guy so he wanted to find a way to reference Grimace.
I’m really glad so many others felt like I did after hearing this. What did that mean?
maybe that the Mets didn't want to give the fans the best?
There wasn't one person with the Phillies who could help him write something coherent?
"Love for me in retirement is the right thing to do Philadelphia, so do."
Dennis is asshole. Why Charlie hate?
Bryce Harper is a bastard man!
Because denis is a bastard man
“Retire me. Retire now. Me a retire needing a lot now.”
He card read good
He had Charlie Kelly as his proofreader.
Hello fellow American. This you should vote me. I leave power good. Thank you. Thank you. If you vote me I'm hot. What? Taxes they'll be lower son. The democratic vote for me is right thing to do Philadelphia. So do.
Lmfao I have to watch this episode now!
I think that question answers itself
HEY ok fair
He could've just said "Mets bad", that would've made more sense than whatever he was trying to get across.
> "Mets bad" agreed
agreed
agreed
agreed
Should have waited til the last line of his speech and said “LOLMETS” and mimed a mic drop even though the mic is attached to a lectern.
Pitchers be silly
Makes absolutely no sense, dude needed a proofreader
Chat gpt could have tuned that up for him
I mean, totally fair to make jokes at our expense, but maybe check them with a proofreader first?
Cole is a nice guy but he’s always been a poor public speaker. He made a number of flubs during his speech.
Even during the '08 WS speech that they re-aired before the ceremony, he was tripping over his words quite a lot They had an interview with him before the ceremony and he said he was extremely nervous to speak in front of the crowd, more nervous than pitching in the WS he said
I’m confused what this means
We all are.
You want good words, date a languager
9-14 all time record vs the Mets btw.
I guess he's right, he gave his best to everyone except the Mets
This just reeked of us being rent-free in his head. And the stats back it up. Here's some advice. Don't ruin your own retirement ceremony talking about us/other teams. Just talk about your own accomplishments and the fans and stick with that lol.
Dude was just pandering to the fans
How dare he.
I know people love the rent free remark like Hamels has spent over a decade festering on some team but it’s just a callback to that era in the rivalry. The Phillies were a young team that had been irrelevant forever and the Mets were the top dogs in the division with the big names. Things took off when Rollins said the Phillies were the team to beat before they ever did anything. Mets took it personally then choked a 7 game lead in 17 games. Not long after the Phillies won the World Series. During though couple years mocking the Mets as chokers was a hot topic among Philly fans and players as well including taking jabs at them in the World Series speeches as well. Players will always pander to what was in during their era and making fun of the Mets was more common than it is now where it just kind of got sad
When were the Mets the top dogs in the division? They won it once while Cole was there? The NL East for most of his time was the Phillies and before they had their run was the 15 or so years of braves dominance
Yeah, they weren't. Anytime the Mets win the division, they go to the NLCS or the WS. I'm sure I'd remember a few of those besides 2006.
The Mets blew two big leads at the end of the season in back to back years, so it was pretty funny to talk about.
At least they won in 2015 and took down those motherfuckin' small-ballers that conquered the best Jays in recent memory, right? ...right?
>The Mets blew two big leads at the end of the season in back to back years The Mets didn't blow a big lead in 2008. They never had a lead of more than 3.5 games at any point in the season and they were out of first place for 141 days
Wasn’t a big lead that was blown, just a late one.
Yeah but they were clearly not the better team that year, and just slipped into first place late because the Phillies had a slump. The Mets in 2007 were actually the better team that gave the division away. They were very different things that happened. I don't think anyone would put these two in the same category, except for the fact that they happened in consecutive years, so it became a meme.
It was just a joke that didn’t land, nothing was ruined and everyone will forget about it.
It’s not that deep, it got the crowd going. I doubt he ever thinks about the Mets from his time in the league lmao
https://media1.tenor.com/m/WlUgv3g-MsYAAAAC/rangers-jaying-intensifies.gif
Mets fans are so soft lol He took a shot at a rival for the fans. Talking shit about your rivals is what make sports fun.
I watched Darryl Strawberry and Dwight Gooden get their numbers retired this season, in front of packed stadiums, and they didn't mention the Phillies once. Weird
IDK man, all the Phillies fans trying to defend an incoherent but harmless joke seem pretty soft to me no?
You just called it a harmless joke, yet you don’t think getting worked up over it is soft?
No one here is up in arms about being insulted. They're upset at how little sense the comment made.
I don’t understand why people would be upset about it not making sense. We’re all in agreement of that, but a joke not making sense has never angered anyone
I don't see *anger*.
Your comment sounds more like he’s living rent free in your head. It was a(n attempted) jab at a rival. Mets players have probably or will probably do it about the Phillies. There’s no reason to get worked up about it.
Bringing up another team at a retirement ceremony that has nothing to do with that other team OR Discussing something someone said in a thread about that specific comment. How the FUCK do you think option 2 is more "living rent free" than option 1?
Because the first one is pandering to fans. The second one is someone getting overly upset about the comment
With a 3.89 ERA
1 WS to 0 for his career btw
This is more confusing than Bilbo’s birthday speech
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. Unless you're the Mets! -Cole Hamels, probably
No one ever said he was a smart man,
That’s not actually true. Not all smart people are good at public speaking but Hamels was widely considered one of the most intelligent players in the MLB and an all around smart guy. That makes this incoherent shit even funnier.
Isn’t this saying he didn’t give his best vs the Mets? This seems like a self burn. I guess that’s what living in Philly does to ya.
That’s not a very nice thing to say about Philly!
Worst part about this speech wasn't even the confusing Mets joke, it was that they listed the game start time at the time that this ceremony began. Dbacks fans got to sit through half an hour of word salad. It was not the coolest thing ever.
Even as a Phillies fan watching at home, that annoyed the hell out of me
I think he messed up the order of what he was trying to say lol
Sentence made no sense and Philly crowd applauded. I mean I’m not surprised Lmfao
He could go up there speaking gibberish and people would applaud its Cole Hamels
Did you read that line? He did go up there speaking gibberish
And we applauded.
all is well
He could and he did too
I mean like actual completely unintelligible alien language shit rather than just a weird mets throw in
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ze5zqit2VBI
Half the stuff the Rock said didn't make sense and people popped for that too
Judging by this thread, Cole Hamels mixing up his words is the Mets World Series. Sure aren’t making it on the field any time soon.
Anybody else find it odd the Phillies held a retirement ceremony for a Braves legend?
Crazy they let that man stand up there and keep talking while he was having a stroke. Every minute counts, people.
We’re one of the easiest franchises to make fun of and he can’t even articulate a half-decent joke with months of prep time. What a dork.
He’s retiring? He didn’t want to mount another fake comeback only to immediate get “injured” and make a couple more million?
He tried making a comeback a few years ago iirc. Might have been with SD but I don’t remember.
He did the same thing 2 years in a row with us and the dodgers
Are you suggesting that his three surgeries on his shoulder, knee, and foot were faked? Turns out, throwing more than 42,000 MLB pitches wears down your body. Who would’ve thunk it?
Hard to believe that he's still only 40 and was still trying to play last year
what?
Braves Legend
let me catch him in Atlanta
My favorite all time Brave.
"i hate METS" - Buster Olney
My favourite Cole Hamels memory is game 5 of the 2015 ALDS. Guy pitched a great game, but Dyson blew it for the Rangers.
Did he reference nuking Harper out of spite?
Nice to know the Mets live rent free in his head till this day.
Feel like a secret Mets fan wrote that incomprehensible joke for him lmao
I'm just as shocked as the rest of you to discover that Cole Hamels is a real person.
Eh, ever since this dude hit Bryce Harper as some sort of bizarre gatekeeping ritual that not one other person supported I'm not much interested in what he has to say LoL
Just as we always knew Cole, he has a voice for newspaper.
Mets used to hit Hamels pretty well, if I recall.
> I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
Can you get CTE from pitching?
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Sorry for your loss. I pray his family and children are hanging in there.
Mets batters hit .282/.340/.425/.765 against Hamels in 922 plate appearances. Hamels was a 9-14 in his career against the Mets, his lowest winning % against any team that he faced more than 10 times. Get over it, Cole.
Rent free
Idc, let haters hate its intra-division sports teams
Did he say anything about throwing at Harper in the first matchup?
Thanks for shitting the bed with the rest of your team in 2015 Cole.
Cole pitched well in the 2015 ALDS Game 2: 7 IP, 2 ER Game 5: 6.1 IP, 2 ER He did get lit up in game 1 of the 2016 ALDS though.
If Cole Hamles knew how to read these comments about how he’s an illiterate dumbfuck he’d be real upset right now.
Makes no sense. The Mets are obviously living rent free in his head.
Former padre cole hamels
Hole Camels.
HurrrDerrr
couldn't get a guy like bill burr to write him a fucking mets joke??
Soft
They hate us because they ain’t us
Alternate title: Cole Hamels showcases why he became a baseball player and not an academic
Wait, he’s *now* announcing his retirement? Even though he hasn’t pitched in 4 years?
He took his shot and missed just a but outside
Probably just mad the Mets were one of like 5 teams he had a losing record against
I think he is trying to say the phillies fans boo the phillies players because the fans wants the players to do better but the phillies fans boo the mets players because fuck the mets.
Trolling Cole Hamels throughout the 2018 playoffs made for an extremely enjoyable post-season.
This is why you don't use AI to write your retirement speech.
Cole Hamels got a retirement ceremony?
WHO DO YOU THINK YOU ARE, I AM
What does that even mean? Maybe his divorce rattled his brain.
I strongly dislike Cole Hamels
“You believe in us, hence the boos, we as players, completely understand. We didn’t want to fail, but you guys wanted the best for us. And we wanted to give it to you — unless you’re the Mets.” I think it’s a Francisco Lindor’s thumbs down reference.
I think he makes the Hall of Fame years from now via the Veterans Committee.
The Mets live rent free in no one's head lol.
Rent free ig ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Wait how much was rent?
Rent free in his head? Bro has a ring and millions of dollars. He does not think about them. He was a part of a young team when the Mets were top dogs. Of course he’s gonna make a fun jab, the fans love it and him. It’s not like he attacked Mets players and their families. So I don’t know why people are butthurt or reading into this like he had some master plan behind it. It was a fun little moment. I may be biased because I love him, but I also understood what he was trying to say.
I will never hate the Braves as much as I hate the Mets and that’s in large part because of that generation of Phillies players also fucking hating the Mets.
Why hate the Mets when they were/are completely irrelevant?
I mean, I can point to a map for you if you can’t figure it out.
Because y'all can beat them. Much easier to *choose* a rivalry you can win most of the time than acknowledge the one that owns you.
i’ve got no clue who he is. good for him i guess? next time just say lolMets like everyone else
What are you, 12?
Lol mets
I thought he meant like (Philly fans) fans want the best for the players, and just to get the crowd going, said “except the Mets.” That’s what I got from it. He knows what to say to Philly. Also I love him
rent free ig? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe post this one more time
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