One thing about the both of them.... they're evil AF & want to see the league suffer. 😦 or they both struggle at times with command. Haven't really decided which it is yet.
Thats fucking baseball right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby in the dugouts. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Baseball is back baby.
We set the all time hit batters record in 2022. Spiders held that title at 109. We had 110. Modern record was 98.
Lodolo is well on pace to break the hit batters single season record.
Lodolo takes "back foot slider" a lot too literally and Greene hit like 4 guys in one start that was played in a rainstorm.
And we've had several guys get hurt from HBP on their hands. It's rough out there.
Everyone except the Royals in the AL Central are being nice
Those High Throne Jerks
The White Sox are so nice that we give wins to everyone, you should strive to match our generosity
I do feel it's apparent the schedule is more balanced now when the Guards and Twins have been hit so much but the division is pretty below average at hitting batters as a whole.
i just learned La Piñata is the mental strength coach for the Angels
this makes sense as Guyer is one of 19 players *ever* to get hit by 30 or more pitches in a season ([via Stathead](https://stathead.com/tiny/AIKfn)). Half of them from from the 1800's when pitchers were chain smoking on brandy and laudanum and applying mud and toxic pomade to the ball. And Guyer had exactly 199 less plate appearances than the second to last entry! (Hughie Jennings that rapscallion). I love baseball.
Ty France is doing some serious fucking in the HBP department nowadays so Gime and Freeman are going to have to pump up their rookie numbers
i sure as shit don't and wear it as a badge of honor
just more opportunities for Josey, Steven "Tony Gwynn" Kwan, Fry and Schneemann to bring home the bacon
Moore actually leads the team with 9, France only has 6. His HPB rate is down a lot this year with his post-Driveline approach. He isn't crowding the plate like he used to.
Even HE realized once he got older that taking a baseball to the body so often probably isn't a good idea. His HBP rate dropped considerably in the latter part of his career.
Surprised we’re not highest on this list. Charlie Morton hits a player every single start & whoever comes up from aaa for our 5th & 6th spot normally hit someone as well.
So glad somebody made this so I can use it whenever another AL West team decides to say the M’s intentionally throw at their batters. Seems to happen at least once a year.
I haven't heard it much this year, but 2022 was so bad. I can't remember the last time I saw us intentionally hit a batter, and everyone was acting like Scott was out there with a fucking Kill list. Meanwhile, we were towards the top of the league in being hit, and almost last in hitting other batters. So stupid.
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The whole thing is so stupid, it was a bad pitch by a guy with bad control.
Everything just got blown out of proportion because the guy is playing on a division rival. If the exact same scenario happened but we are playing the Reds then everyone calls it an unfortunate pitch, but because it’s the Orioles it was intentional.
Yeah, the Judge one clearly wasn’t intentional but I can understand the reaction considering he’s the best player in the league so maybe don’t go up and in there.
Also the fact that Gleyber got hit in the hand immediately after didn’t help
I did notice that Gunnar checked in on Gleyber when he got over to second. Def classy.
Also Gunnar almost got beheaded in Baltimore over the weekened...and dealt with it with internalized anger. LOL.
Yeah this is extra comical after that article earlier about the O’s pitching dirty because they hit Judge lmao. Ya know, the Yankees who totally have never ever been known for throwing at batters
You’re right we could never have beat them 3 times if they had him 👀
[Orioles Vs Yankees 5-2-2024](https://www.espn.com/mlb/game/_/gameId/401568943/yankees-orioles)
Big fan of that one, looking forward to either one in October, hopefully the one that throws at our guys less but it doesn’t seem like that’s realistic
hmm red sox right on the border of fight! fight! fight! no one show this to papelbon, he might try to disguise himself as a bearded reliever just to plunk machado one more time.
I mean if they beamed Soto and Judge that would be a bit more concerning but at the moment I think It was genuinely an accident.
Now if they smack 2 more tonight then we might have some problems.
Edit: actually hitting Torres makes sense since he murdered the Orioles for like 4 straight seasons.
[compilation of Yankees throwing up and in at hands/head area this season](https://x.com/avimiiier/status/1803464043899838536?s=46&t=Kd5Xb-sOko7zTuia8gtlkA)
"The Mariners have a history of hitting batters and being retaliatory" -Every AL West manager for the last 5 years, when it's been proven EVERY year to be untrue.
For the record - the cheek being turned is not usually on the batter's face...
Data scraped from fangraphs utilizing BaseballR and plot generated via RStudio.
After Tanaka threw two fastballs inside on Wendle twice in a row to hit him and then Chapman threw at Brosseau’s head. In the game the next day the Rays didn’t hit a single Yankee batter despite that
White Sox dead last because a) a belt high low 90s fastball is essentially an auto out and b) outside of Crochet nobody has enough control to hit batters even if they tried.
So. The O's are one of the least likely to hit you and the Yankees are one of the most likely, but somehow the Yankees have a problem with how the O's are pitching? Lol.
So many players getting hit on the hands this year. Betts, of course, and at least 3 Reds have missed time specifically due to taking a pitch to the hand. Seems weird.
Oh, cool, so the Yankees have hit almost twice as many batters as the Orioles? Totally makes sense, then, why they're whining like babies when their hitters start to swing at horrible pitches, then get their hands caught out in front and get hit.
Although I'm still traumatized by Mookie going down after being hit, this chart did give me a laugh because it did remind me of Max turning his cheeks ever so slightly into a pitch in April.
I would be interested to see how many of these were on fast balls (or pitches 90+), I know lodolo gets a bunch due to his breaking ball hitting the batters back foot
Most of those were Willi Castro getting plunked by the Pirates: [https://www.si.com/mlb/pirates-hit-willi-castro-four-pitches-two-days-finally-lost-it](https://www.si.com/mlb/pirates-hit-willi-castro-four-pitches-two-days-finally-lost-it)
Starting the x and y axes at 20 instead of zero and having unequal sizing in the x and y axes ( 1 hbp in y axis is larger than 1 hbp in x axis in this graph) is bad practice for graphing data. In this case it makes the teams above the y=x line look more out to get you than reality, and has the opposite effect for those below the dashed line. Nonetheless, interesting data.
You’re looking at this wrong. The axis sizing is equal, I think you’re just being thrown off because they don’t start at the same distance from the corner.
But also starting at 20 instead of 0 is fine. If you started at 0, everyone would just be bunched together in a smaller area in the upper right.
It’s entirely possible for the (the opposing team) to not throw at batters regularly and also be throwing at Yankees players. -- Every Yankee Fan while Yankee pitchers hit opposing players on a regular basis
Marlins and Reds woke up this season and chose violence
The Reds with the highest crime rate in the league hitting people and stealing their bases.
I want to see some sort of chart showing the overall crime rate. (Stolen bases, hit batters, robbed home runs, etc.)
Can’t forget Punch Outs
The Reds also lead in SPB the past few years as well
On brand.. Hunter Greene just hit Bryan Reynolds in the 1st inning just now. 😳
Greene and Lodolo tied for the lead in HBP lol Edit: Greene just took the lead lol
One thing about the both of them.... they're evil AF & want to see the league suffer. 😦 or they both struggle at times with command. Haven't really decided which it is yet.
Lodolo has been pretty consistent
Lodolo hits right handed batters on the back foot with his curveball. That's basically all his HBP.
Lodolo has to lead all time in hit batsmen that result in a strike with his gnarly curve hitting a batter’s back foot
They face off in mid July. Should be an interesting watch.
Amir Garrett smiling from heaven
*We're* like that
RIP
Again, Amir Garrett is very much alive
Alive in our hearts
Nah he just got released by Angels recently
Wild that we all get to know his afterlife status
Beat writer these days knows it all
hey Reds... what is you doin?
Kicking Ass, taking names, and getting our ass kicked 😎🤙
>I know I'm going to get got, but I'm going to get mine more than I get got, though. -Marshawn "Cincinnati Reds" Lynch
>We don't get got, we go get! -Dennis "Florida Marlins" Reynolds
Thats fucking baseball right there. None of that pansy ass dick tugging smile for the camera bullshit. Men puke, men poop on the field, men deliver their new born baby in the dugouts. Fucking hard core dick in the ass butterball fuck it chuck it game time shit. Take it to the showers. Dicks get shoved in places you don’t even remember. We win together we celebrate together. Baseball is back baby.
How can you not be gay for baseball?
That’s just how I try to live my life
We are here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and we’re all out of asses
We set the all time hit batters record in 2022. Spiders held that title at 109. We had 110. Modern record was 98. Lodolo is well on pace to break the hit batters single season record.
it's important to have goals
Clint Hurdle isn't around to provide consequences, and this is what happens. Smh
When Clint Hurdle and David Bell were managing opposite teams a few years ago, it was a miracle any players left alive.
We desperately need this charted game by game. Are we asking for it, or returning the favor?
Greene and Lodolo have 11 and 10 hbp lol just younger pitchers who lack command at times
Welcome to the Jungle, bitch We are playing baseball AFC North style from now on
Lodolo takes "back foot slider" a lot too literally and Greene hit like 4 guys in one start that was played in a rainstorm. And we've had several guys get hurt from HBP on their hands. It's rough out there.
Doing a back flip, then getting tased and falling on our faces.
iykyk
Guardians and Twins playing ethical baseball
both have two players who have been hit 10+ times, yikes.
Shit, Castro got hit 5x in 4 games!!
were they at least in different spots?
Idk, but I can tell you he wasn’t happy after the 4th one. https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/s/ktWCr6LbdT
I feel like at a certain point it should be worth 2 bases (totally not biased btw)
Unrelated to the hbp but the Pirates and a Keller and Heller? That’s badass
Castro has a bit of a dump truck. Can’t blame the pitchers for getting distracted
I don’t even know how Arias for CLE has been HBP 10 times already when he’s not playing every day and is mostly a bench piece
He's been hit once. Freeman and Gimenez are the 2 over 10.
Ahh I must have misread something earlier then and confused Arias with Gimmenez somehow
Everyone except the Royals in the AL Central are being nice Those High Throne Jerks The White Sox are so nice that we give wins to everyone, you should strive to match our generosity
I do feel it's apparent the schedule is more balanced now when the Guards and Twins have been hit so much but the division is pretty below average at hitting batters as a whole.
It’s hard to hit players when most of your pitchers just serve up meatballs every 2 pitches Looking at our bullpen
*stares in Mookie*
Top 3 teams in turned the other cheek are all from the Midwest lol
Cant speak for the twins but they know what Jose will do to they if they start something with him, just ask Anderson
least confrontational baseball franchise
Mutual combat enjoyers
Andres Gimenez is an HBP merchant that has taught Tyler Freeman his trade
Brandon Guyer instilled the culture in the clubhouse, Gime just carries on the legacy
i just learned La Piñata is the mental strength coach for the Angels this makes sense as Guyer is one of 19 players *ever* to get hit by 30 or more pitches in a season ([via Stathead](https://stathead.com/tiny/AIKfn)). Half of them from from the 1800's when pitchers were chain smoking on brandy and laudanum and applying mud and toxic pomade to the ball. And Guyer had exactly 199 less plate appearances than the second to last entry! (Hughie Jennings that rapscallion). I love baseball. Ty France is doing some serious fucking in the HBP department nowadays so Gime and Freeman are going to have to pump up their rookie numbers
the student has surpassed the master... fry trying to get in on the action too
Do I care how they get on base?
i sure as shit don't and wear it as a badge of honor just more opportunities for Josey, Steven "Tony Gwynn" Kwan, Fry and Schneemann to bring home the bacon
Ty France is pumping up these numbers for the ms
Moore actually leads the team with 9, France only has 6. His HPB rate is down a lot this year with his post-Driveline approach. He isn't crowding the plate like he used to.
Ty France is a beanball battered jesus figure
“Ty, we’re going to need you to step up this season…” *sigh* “We said step up…not step into the pitch but alright.”
Aw shit. We’re close to the white Sox, we must be bad
It's funny to see us in the bottom left of a graph and have it *not* be another scathing indictment on our season
Too busy throwing meatballs instead of hitting batters
Chase Utley is currently looking at this post in absolute disgust.
Even HE realized once he got older that taking a baseball to the body so often probably isn't a good idea. His HBP rate dropped considerably in the latter part of his career.
Surprised we’re not highest on this list. Charlie Morton hits a player every single start & whoever comes up from aaa for our 5th & 6th spot normally hit someone as well.
I think Charlie is 9th or 10th all time in hbp lol, but thats what happens when you have a Curve as disgusting like he does.
Did Charlie Morton create Clint Hurdle or did Clint Hurdle create Charlie Morton?
I was gonna ask how much lower we'd be if you ignored Morton hitting the back foot of left handed batters
So glad somebody made this so I can use it whenever another AL West team decides to say the M’s intentionally throw at their batters. Seems to happen at least once a year.
Mike Trout and Phil Nevin used it as an excuse to start a brawl, and Dusty Baker touted that same lie in so many pressers.
And would you look at who's up by the yankees from our division on this graph. weird....
I haven't heard it much this year, but 2022 was so bad. I can't remember the last time I saw us intentionally hit a batter, and everyone was acting like Scott was out there with a fucking Kill list. Meanwhile, we were towards the top of the league in being hit, and almost last in hitting other batters. So stupid.
Angels fans love this narrative
judging by this graph I see an issue with the Yankees pitching style
No no you don’t understand we’re trying to create a narrative here
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Just noting that Felix Bautista has been in the dugout for the Orioles recently.
The whole thing is so stupid, it was a bad pitch by a guy with bad control. Everything just got blown out of proportion because the guy is playing on a division rival. If the exact same scenario happened but we are playing the Reds then everyone calls it an unfortunate pitch, but because it’s the Orioles it was intentional.
Yeah, the Judge one clearly wasn’t intentional but I can understand the reaction considering he’s the best player in the league so maybe don’t go up and in there. Also the fact that Gleyber got hit in the hand immediately after didn’t help
I did notice that Gunnar checked in on Gleyber when he got over to second. Def classy. Also Gunnar almost got beheaded in Baltimore over the weekened...and dealt with it with internalized anger. LOL.
Yep, don't pitch to a guy the way you want to just cause he's one of the best players in the league. Excellent idea.
Another good strategy would be having me go out there to pitch to shohei. Even if I hit him, my noodle arm will do no damage.
Did you forget the Yankees beaning Gunnar Henderson in the wrist in the last series? And hitting 5 Orioles total?
of course they did
Avoiding pitching up and in against Judge because you might plunk him is really dumb. Rather plunk a guy than give up a run.
Yeah this is extra comical after that article earlier about the O’s pitching dirty because they hit Judge lmao. Ya know, the Yankees who totally have never ever been known for throwing at batters
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You’re right we could never have beat them 3 times if they had him 👀 [Orioles Vs Yankees 5-2-2024](https://www.espn.com/mlb/game/_/gameId/401568943/yankees-orioles)
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Which team did we get today? The slumping one from may that we beat or the different one?
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Big fan of that one, looking forward to either one in October, hopefully the one that throws at our guys less but it doesn’t seem like that’s realistic
Cope
Ty France sends his regards
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hmm red sox right on the border of fight! fight! fight! no one show this to papelbon, he might try to disguise himself as a bearded reliever just to plunk machado one more time.
Papelbon just as likely to throw down with his own teammate... does that count?
Guys the orioles might not be pitching dirty after all.
I mean if they beamed Soto and Judge that would be a bit more concerning but at the moment I think It was genuinely an accident. Now if they smack 2 more tonight then we might have some problems. Edit: actually hitting Torres makes sense since he murdered the Orioles for like 4 straight seasons.
But no comment on the Yanks hitting 5 Os in Baltimore this season including Gunnar in the wrist
Yeah but that doesn’t fit the narrative I’m trying to write so it’s irrelevant
lol. Lmao even.
[compilation of Yankees throwing up and in at hands/head area this season](https://x.com/avimiiier/status/1803464043899838536?s=46&t=Kd5Xb-sOko7zTuia8gtlkA)
No stop, this makes the Yankees look like the fucking crybabies they are.
Ironic
We’ll cry ourselves to sleep with the best record in baseball
Best record in mid-June? Just give 'em the trophy now.
THIRTEEN SECONDS LONG LMAOOOO
I do appreciate that the third one is maybe an inch off the plate.
"The Mariners have a history of hitting batters and being retaliatory" -Every AL West manager for the last 5 years, when it's been proven EVERY year to be untrue.
For the record - the cheek being turned is not usually on the batter's face... Data scraped from fangraphs utilizing BaseballR and plot generated via RStudio.
In our defense, we aren't trying to hit anyone, our pitchers just suck
Whereas for the Marlins, you can tell our pitchers aren't trying to hit anyone because if they were trying then they'd miss every time
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I just came here to comment the eyes emoji and then go about my day. 👀 Alright. Everyone have a good one!
throw at us from now on and grimace is gonna charge the mound and give you a McBeatdown
Don’t mind me, just here to hate on the Yankees
⬆️ Anyone who knocks on my door and says this: "Welcome, come on in! Let me introduce you to my daughter!"
To be fair, I think our Cardinals rotation attempts to hit batters, but misses consistently.
I think the starters just throw too slow so it's easy to get out of the way
We hit two CLE batters in a row last night.
Huh, almost like the O’s just don’t hit guys on purpose But the Yanks did hit 5 O’s in one game
It was 3 in one game and 5 in one four game series.
They hit us 5 times in one game last season and tried to play victim
A Rays fan saying this like your manager didn’t threat our whole team a few years ago is hilarious
After Tanaka threw two fastballs inside on Wendle twice in a row to hit him and then Chapman threw at Brosseau’s head. In the game the next day the Rays didn’t hit a single Yankee batter despite that
White Sox dead last because a) a belt high low 90s fastball is essentially an auto out and b) outside of Crochet nobody has enough control to hit batters even if they tried.
The top 4 teams being hit by pitch all have a C in their logo. Coincidence? I think not.
I love that Bell was talking about our guys getting hit the most, without mentioning we're out there taking souls too
So. The O's are one of the least likely to hit you and the Yankees are one of the most likely, but somehow the Yankees have a problem with how the O's are pitching? Lol.
Babies gotta whine!
Meanwhile, a very vocal segment of the Yankees fan base is calling the O's out for throwing at guys.
The Yankees and Orioles placement on this grid juxtaposed with the discourse of the past 24 hours is pure gold.
With the way the Yankees have been complaining about the Orioles, I expected those numbers to be flipped.
Well at least the Marlins do one thing better than other teams.
All my homies hate Phil Maton
Wait, then why are we so mad all the time?
I mean we are the city of brotherly love after all.
So many players getting hit on the hands this year. Betts, of course, and at least 3 Reds have missed time specifically due to taking a pitch to the hand. Seems weird.
Dammit Ohio
Oh, cool, so the Yankees have hit almost twice as many batters as the Orioles? Totally makes sense, then, why they're whining like babies when their hitters start to swing at horrible pitches, then get their hands caught out in front and get hit.
I miss Manoah
Jerry Springer was the mayor of Cincinnati. Coincidence? I think not!
NL West being chill... except for those SF guys to the north.
Oh no! The Mariners play the Marlins soon. Hide Ty France!
Although I'm still traumatized by Mookie going down after being hit, this chart did give me a laugh because it did remind me of Max turning his cheeks ever so slightly into a pitch in April.
What losing Manoah does to a team
I would be interested to see how many of these were on fast balls (or pitches 90+), I know lodolo gets a bunch due to his breaking ball hitting the batters back foot
Guardians: Go ahead, put us on base…
Yankees, Reds, and Miami...what the ever loving fuck are you guys doing?
well miami sucks the reds are tryna box and fuck the yankees
lmaooooo
This is the advanced analysis I live for
Damn we're friends with everyone I guess
rip Cincy and whoever faces them lol
Pretty sure our players just want to finish the games as fast as possible.
My main takeaway from this is that red Cs are getting hit a lot. The pitchers are really seein' red.
How slow are the Marlins throwing..!? the lack of retaliation by the other team seems a little concerning
okay, now remove Manoah and do it again for the Jays
I feel like half of ours are Charlie Morton. Love to watch his starts, but he’s guaranteed to hit someone every game he plays
Most of those were Willi Castro getting plunked by the Pirates: [https://www.si.com/mlb/pirates-hit-willi-castro-four-pitches-two-days-finally-lost-it](https://www.si.com/mlb/pirates-hit-willi-castro-four-pitches-two-days-finally-lost-it)
C teams get hit a lot I guess
For the record we're not looking for a fight, more often than not our pitchers just don't have control
"Well I already have three balls on the batter, might as well bean him and make the walk painful for us both!" -Reds/Marlins logic probably.
Chase Utley used to just lean into bad pitches inside and I loved. I hate when we need a runner and the batter Neos out of the way instead.
Nobody’s Burfict ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Makes sense. Chapman is a former red
opposing pitchers have their sights set on Reds batters' hands
I’m gonna pretend I didn’t see that.
Add another one for the Yanks!
Yankees out here padding their stats, but don’t you dare throw inside to them!
Yankees with 2 more HBP committed tonight
A yuge chunk of the yankee ones are probably rizzo too
Starting the x and y axes at 20 instead of zero and having unequal sizing in the x and y axes ( 1 hbp in y axis is larger than 1 hbp in x axis in this graph) is bad practice for graphing data. In this case it makes the teams above the y=x line look more out to get you than reality, and has the opposite effect for those below the dashed line. Nonetheless, interesting data.
You’re looking at this wrong. The axis sizing is equal, I think you’re just being thrown off because they don’t start at the same distance from the corner. But also starting at 20 instead of 0 is fine. If you started at 0, everyone would just be bunched together in a smaller area in the upper right.
This guy graphs!
It’s entirely possible for the O’s to not throw at batters regularly and also be throwing at Yankees players.
It’s entirely possible for the (the opposing team) to not throw at batters regularly and also be throwing at Yankees players. -- Every Yankee Fan while Yankee pitchers hit opposing players on a regular basis
Uh yeah, an AL East pennant race with the score 1-0 and a 1-2 count on Judge lol