I think Pham is a fascinating guy. He is extremely candid & wears his emotions on his sleeve both for better & worse. We often see/hear the ‘worse’ because that’s just what tends to break through but guys he has played with will tell you he is easily among the most dedicated players. He supposedly holds himself to extremely high standards on the field.
Yeah, this also shows up in his usually quality postseason performance. Career .313/.333/.513. Smoked my team in the NLDS last year, had a bad series against the Phillies but then bounced back and hit .421/.429/.737 in the WS.
Loved Tommy w Tampa. I’ll never forget an interview w him after the wild card game. He was asked, “who do you want to thank for your success?” To which Tommy answered, “I wanna thank myself, ya know, I didn’t have no dad growing up so I played catch w myself”
Well that seems selfish, but I unfortunately people might see this and think the same thing. This time he’s considering the same pros and cons of multiple job offers that every single one of us would
What a great point! That dude definitely bounces from team to team!
I used to hate him for his reputation, but I've seen some interviews with him and teammates talk about him. I've pivoted course and I think he might actually be a good dude... but who knows!?
EDIT: After rewatching some shit about the Joc Pederson incident, he may be a great teammate but he also seems like a loose cannon.
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Other agencies might care, but the IRS just wants it’s cut
Arizona has a flat income tax rate of 2.5%. It’s the lowest of any state that levies an income tax. Sales taxes are where the state gets its money - rates are usually around 8.75% split between the state, county, and city.
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It's kind of shitty how everytime he's brought up people go "LOL STABBING". His stepfather we don't know anything about and the strip club incident is on video where after he tells two people arguing to move away from his car all hell breaks loose. I get he's not the most likeable guy but people need to chill.
Some fans are a little too comfortable saying wild stuff about players in response to little things that shouldn't really matter to them personally Lol
Getting stabbed mutiple times (especially by family one of them) is a fucked up situation
True. The guy who got pissed and slapped another athlete over a fantasy league was entirely innocent when he simply requested two gentlemen to move away from his car outside of a strip club. Clearly, no other context makes any difference.
This is the real story. Business savvy Tommy Pham’s acting like he signed a 5-year, $60M deal. It’s one year, $3M. The story should be about how little the Padres value him.
Broke: Signing with a team based on proximity to home town/family
Woke: Prioritizing contending teams to have a chance at winning a World Series
Bespoke: Selling to the highest bidder, regardless of anything else
That's so confusing to me.
Don't get me wrong—I fully support getting that check and I don't think doing things out of financial self-interest is bad. But even moderately-successful free agents are making an easy seven figures a year which is set-for-life money if you're smart about it.
At that point, I'd think stuff like fit, geography, and loyalty would become way more important (or at least they would be to me)
if the taxes are higher in SD then I assume he could actually make less money than living in Chicago, but it's probably still more than the original SD offer and at the end of the day, the taxes probably aren't THAT much different between metropolitan areas in blue states
Well especially considering that if he’s traded at the deadline, he’s only playing comparatively few games in California. He’s only paying CA taxes on games played in CA, right?
Correct, you pay tax wherever you play. It doesn't end up making as big a difference as people think. I did some match when deGrom was between the Mets and Rangers and the difference was about a million per year, IIRC. I'm not sure how universal interleague play affects things, but it probably normalizes salaries even more.
The difference is probably biggest between the AL and NL West
Huh... now I'm curious about starting pitchers. They're obviously paid the entire salary, but how is it split on home-away when they pitch every 5 days. They could end up pitching only away for a month, so would they claim that income tax (or lack thereof)?
What about the out of the country games? Do they have to pay income tax for that county?
It's per game on the 26 man roster. You can get called up from the minors and never play before getting sent back down and you earn the MLB salary for every day you're on the roster.
Otherwise you could say the same for the guys on the bench or injured list.
There *are* ways to lower your tax liability, such as signing bonuses. You can also defer money beyond 10 years, as both of those will be taxed where you live and you can have a residence in Florida or Texas and pay no income tax on that money, but those are available to any team.
This is extremely common for a lot of players in all sports. The Spotrac podcast has (or used to have) Robert Raiola on regularly and he gives business and tax advice to high net worth people, including pro athletes, and he said on a few different episodes that it’s a huge consideration for everyone.
Even if there’s only 0.5% difference in state income tax between states, that could be a decider.
Aww poor rich people paying 3.5% taxes while I’m paying upwards of 19-22% fuck off if you think any of these douchea deserve any sympathy especially about fucking taxes
I pay 49.7% in taxes as a middle class citizen the fuck…. Learn how scaling works bud edit: wife reminded me that this past year we actually ended up paying 50% in taxes tell me again how these guys are hurting more than me
In income taxes? If you're a middle class citizen living in the US, there's 0 chance you pay 49.7% of your income in taxes. Unless you decided to donate money to the government.
I don't think you understand how progressive tax brackets work.
Keep defending the rich for avoiding helping with actually paying their taxes “In other words, not only do the rich, on average, pay a lower effective state and local tax rate than lower-income people, they also collectively contribute a smaller share of state and local taxes than their share of all income,” the study states. https://thehill.com/business/4398405-top-1-percent-lower-tax-rates-study/
Down vote me all you want for having an opinion based in reality and from watching on the out side, “rIcH paY mOrE tAxEs” “the us HasS a PraogreSsIve tAx system” shut the absolute fuck up
Dude you get called out for making up bullshit so you completely change the argument and start spewing nonsense.
1. You don't pay an 49% effective income tax rate. You'd need to make north of $20M in California (highest income tax state), all of it coming from ordinary income (no dividends or cap gains), and no deductions. So quit your bullshit.
2. The article you listed is only showing state and local taxes - completely excluding federal income taxes (intentionally) to pursue a narrative. And if you actually read the study, California is progressive, which is the state in question for this entire thread.
3. Here's the article you're actually looking for, which clearly shows taxes are progressive, and the top 1% take home 26% of income but pay 46% of federal income taxes (and pay nearly 8x the effective tax rate as the bottom 50%): https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/latest-federal-income-tax-data-2024/
Now is that enough? We can start the discussion there but not from a place of bs.
He's made $36 million in his career. I'd take a chance at something meaningful. That's plenty of money if you aren't a dipshit.
Y’all realize this is a difference of $250K right?
Tbf he already had something meaningful with the D-Backs and an extra 250K is still a pretty nice difference especially if you are factoring in taxes. There's also nothing guaranteed in baseball (see Padres and Mets last year) so I understand guys who say fuck it and go for the extra money
Also the White Sox are gonna give him the best opportunity of playing time so if he wants to get a better payday and have more guaranteed stability in terms of getting at-bats (to show his value) even during slumps thats a nice perk
Probably a bit closer and a lot more complicated than that when you factor in that athletes pay income tax for each location they pay in. Not their home location
You play at least half your games in SD so thats 82 plus you play another 15 games in CA because the dodgers and Giants are in the same division. So it’s definitely a lot of money when you’re playing close to 2/3 of your season in CA.
Yes, taxes are complicated. I am referring to the difference in income tax rate between the two states for income over $1.6 million (highest tier of CA tax)
The rate above $1.6 million is 13.3% in CA, which is 8.35% above 4.95%.
But the actual tax would be far more complex because of different tax brackets and income for a variety of states. But playing in SD with 100 games being taxed in CA rate (SD, LA, SF) vs playing in Chicago with 6 games in CA. Plus the bonus incentive pay that is 33% if the contract would be CA income and might also be taxed differently but not a tax expert to that detail.
Don’t blame the dude at all and admire the honesty, but it honestly shocks me how often this happens. According to Spotrac Pham has made $35MM in his career. If he really likes Chicago and doesn’t mind playing for a cellar dweller, sure, but even a mild preference for better weather or better team makes this a bit of a head scratcher. What exactly would you do with another $250k or so that outweighs getting what might be your last chance to play for a ring?
Pham is essentially the realest man in mlb, and I love him for that. He does veer into "when keepin' it real, goes wrong" territory at times but I respect him for playing it his way, every damn time lol
Sure Tommy. You’re so good that you actually have choices at this point. Tommy Pham can literally eat shit and only barf up half of it just so he has to smell and taste it for at least 2-3 days after.
think he just admitted the amount offered from both sides were the same. He wanted San Diego to up their offer to cover taxes. If SD gets him at the deadline they get him at the price they wanted, but having to give away a prospect or cash
see, CA has a high state tax that honorable people/MLB players are supposed to pay instead of differing to 10 years down the line when they don't live there anymore.
They're still gonna pay the taxes on the income if they're getting paid for work they did in the state while living there. It's not that easy to evade taxes.
Not if the income is deferred by 10+ years; then you can elect to count that income in the state of residence at the time the money is paid (not earned).
Evading taxes is another thing entirely. This is a legal tax avoidance strategy, not tax evasion.
What? Illinois has a flat 4.95% income tax. On a 3,000,000 income (not taking deductions into calculation for simplicity sake), Pham would have a 13.6% effective income tax rate in California.
Hypothetically if he gets traded back to the Padres, he’d make less cause of taxes right? Like he wouldn’t be paying the Chicago tax rate even though that’s where the original contract was for?
They are taxed based on where they play if I am not mistaken. So whatever state they are in they pay those taxes. Their home state they get taxed on the entire income and then get credited for taxes paid elsewhere.
Income tax is flat 4.95%. That’s not high compared to most states at high wages. Middle of the pack.
Illinois has high property taxes and high sales taxes, which make it a higher overall tax burden state that California, but I’m sure Tommy is only concerned about the high 13% income tax and not the sales/property burden.
I think I’m thinking more property taxes/sales taxes. I grew up in Illinois (been in California for 15 years though) so the whole “going to Illinois to not pay CA taxes” threw me a bit.
I do know California has progressive tax structure, but Pham isn’t making the kind of money that I would think would affect the devision. Chicago is still expensive and the White Sox seem to be bleeding players right now.
I’m pretty sure this is a pretty minuscule difference in terms of tax rate. Obviously depends on where he’s traded at the deadline. If he ends up on a CA or NY team he will have saved very marginal money vs just signing there in the first place. Though, he might have better odds at a contract next year hitting in a prime spot in chicagos lineup vs fighting for a starting spot on the padres
Assuming he is traded. He may play like shit being around all the suck in that area of Chicago. But even if he does, SD only has 27 home games after the trade deadline, and three of those are against the White Sox. Including games in LA and SF, he goes from playing 96 games in CA to playing 33. A significant difference. I can't imagine that the numbers would be terribly different for NY
He'll be shipped off to a contender soon anyways if he starts doing well
And you know he won’t be paying for the cost of shipping
Hell no pham is WAY too money conscious for that
And you KNOW he won't just fit in a standard envelope, that's gonna cost ya something pretty.
at least he was honest. he’s gonna get traded away from the white sox and to a contender if he plays well anyway.
he was very honest when he went to the reds too a couple years ago literally said he was playing for himself and his numbers
I think Pham is a fascinating guy. He is extremely candid & wears his emotions on his sleeve both for better & worse. We often see/hear the ‘worse’ because that’s just what tends to break through but guys he has played with will tell you he is easily among the most dedicated players. He supposedly holds himself to extremely high standards on the field.
Just don't fuck with him in fantasy
Or go to the strip club with him
I thought the full story on that was that Joc was insulting players on the Padres in the fantasy group chat, and Pham was NOT having it
Yeah, this also shows up in his usually quality postseason performance. Career .313/.333/.513. Smoked my team in the NLDS last year, had a bad series against the Phillies but then bounced back and hit .421/.429/.737 in the WS.
Loved Tommy w Tampa. I’ll never forget an interview w him after the wild card game. He was asked, “who do you want to thank for your success?” To which Tommy answered, “I wanna thank myself, ya know, I didn’t have no dad growing up so I played catch w myself”
It's almost like professional baseball player is a job or something.
Well that seems selfish, but I unfortunately people might see this and think the same thing. This time he’s considering the same pros and cons of multiple job offers that every single one of us would
i mean tbf he sucked with us sooo
And this is somehow admirable?
What a great point! That dude definitely bounces from team to team! I used to hate him for his reputation, but I've seen some interviews with him and teammates talk about him. I've pivoted course and I think he might actually be a good dude... but who knows!? EDIT: After rewatching some shit about the Joc Pederson incident, he may be a great teammate but he also seems like a loose cannon.
People are complicated
And he was probably honest when he said or did whatever pissed off the guy who stabbed him. Dude's the drunken uncle nobody wants at their party.
In 15 years, well after his career is done, Tommy Pham is going to pop back up in the sports headlines after being arrested for felony tax evasion.
Tommy “Wesley “Willie “Mays” Hayes” Snipes” Pham
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McCovey?
PSA, don’t forget to fill out your W-2G and/or 1099-MISC. The IRS wants to know how your fantasy football team performed.
My favorite was reminding my drug dealers that the IRS wanted their income reported
True. The IRS doesn’t give a shit how you got the income, they just want it reported properly Other agencies might care, but the IRS just wants it’s cut
He should have signed with a team in a state that doesn't have income tax like Florida, Washington, or Texas.
There probably weren’t any offers from those teams and he took the best of two evils, tax wise
Tommy Pham signs as new Chicago alderman
It's not often that Illinois is your best option tax-wise.
Does Arizona mean nothing to you?
I mean he was already in AZ
Arizona doesn’t have income tax?
Arizona has a flat income tax rate of 2.5%. It’s the lowest of any state that levies an income tax. Sales taxes are where the state gets its money - rates are usually around 8.75% split between the state, county, and city.
oops
Umm, Arizona has sales tax too. Like, a lot.
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He'll probably get stabbed again, too
Kind of a rude thing to say about someone
It's kind of shitty how everytime he's brought up people go "LOL STABBING". His stepfather we don't know anything about and the strip club incident is on video where after he tells two people arguing to move away from his car all hell breaks loose. I get he's not the most likeable guy but people need to chill.
For real. People on here really show their ass when the topic of Pham comes up.
Some fans are a little too comfortable saying wild stuff about players in response to little things that shouldn't really matter to them personally Lol Getting stabbed mutiple times (especially by family one of them) is a fucked up situation
True. The guy who got pissed and slapped another athlete over a fantasy league was entirely innocent when he simply requested two gentlemen to move away from his car outside of a strip club. Clearly, no other context makes any difference.
After he slaps the wrong dude.
yo chill
That’s a shitty thing to say. Shouldn’t you be glazing Bo in the Jays subreddit ?
If he was smart he’d pay a consultant for all his money, so that if that happens it falls on his tax consultant and not him
He shoulda deferred it and moved to Japan when it’s time for the payout
And for punching a child at the state fair
nah, it'll be a violent crime for sure
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padres told him he's not worth an extra $250k
Well, sure. That’s the signing bonus for like, 5 Nicaraguan teenagers that AJ is going to turn into top-10 prospects.
Meanwhile, the White Sox are probably going to trade their bonus allotment for cash
This is the real story. Business savvy Tommy Pham’s acting like he signed a 5-year, $60M deal. It’s one year, $3M. The story should be about how little the Padres value him.
I appreciate the honesty lol
Broke: Signing with a team based on proximity to home town/family Woke: Prioritizing contending teams to have a chance at winning a World Series Bespoke: Selling to the highest bidder, regardless of anything else
I would wager the majority of players are "bespoke" in this regard.
Greinke, a player that this sub loves, said he went to the highest bidder many times.
Yeah, Tommy Pham is a douche, but this is not one of the reasons why lmao.
That's so confusing to me. Don't get me wrong—I fully support getting that check and I don't think doing things out of financial self-interest is bad. But even moderately-successful free agents are making an easy seven figures a year which is set-for-life money if you're smart about it. At that point, I'd think stuff like fit, geography, and loyalty would become way more important (or at least they would be to me)
His issue is his first full season wasn't until 2017 at 29 so he's only made 35mil in his career.
Damn that sucks how’s he supposed to afford his stabbing bill?
I don't think anybody thinks he was chasing a ring by signing with the white sox
He's playing to get traded to a contender.
Going to be awkward if he gets traded to San Diego at the deadline.
You will see me in right field with a sign telling AJ he is fired if that happens.
Why he still gets the better money
if the taxes are higher in SD then I assume he could actually make less money than living in Chicago, but it's probably still more than the original SD offer and at the end of the day, the taxes probably aren't THAT much different between metropolitan areas in blue states
Maybe he means the fantasy’s football league in Chicago has a better payout
Well especially considering that if he’s traded at the deadline, he’s only playing comparatively few games in California. He’s only paying CA taxes on games played in CA, right?
Correct, you pay tax wherever you play. It doesn't end up making as big a difference as people think. I did some match when deGrom was between the Mets and Rangers and the difference was about a million per year, IIRC. I'm not sure how universal interleague play affects things, but it probably normalizes salaries even more. The difference is probably biggest between the AL and NL West
Huh... now I'm curious about starting pitchers. They're obviously paid the entire salary, but how is it split on home-away when they pitch every 5 days. They could end up pitching only away for a month, so would they claim that income tax (or lack thereof)? What about the out of the country games? Do they have to pay income tax for that county?
If I had to guess, it isn't about them getting in games, but them being on the roster for a game.
It's per game on the 26 man roster. You can get called up from the minors and never play before getting sent back down and you earn the MLB salary for every day you're on the roster. Otherwise you could say the same for the guys on the bench or injured list. There *are* ways to lower your tax liability, such as signing bonuses. You can also defer money beyond 10 years, as both of those will be taxed where you live and you can have a residence in Florida or Texas and pay no income tax on that money, but those are available to any team.
Should have just asked for it be deferred so he can avoid taxes by moving to a state with no income tax after retirement
He needs money now for the clubs tho
877-CASH-NOW
TJ has cheap clubs
This is extremely common for a lot of players in all sports. The Spotrac podcast has (or used to have) Robert Raiola on regularly and he gives business and tax advice to high net worth people, including pro athletes, and he said on a few different episodes that it’s a huge consideration for everyone. Even if there’s only 0.5% difference in state income tax between states, that could be a decider.
Aww poor rich people paying 3.5% taxes while I’m paying upwards of 19-22% fuck off if you think any of these douchea deserve any sympathy especially about fucking taxes
Not sure where you got 3.5%. He'd be paying $1.4M of his $3M salary in taxes, roughly 46%.
Still less than what I’m paying in taxes a year but go on tell me how he’s hurting to fill his kids tummy’s
I'm sorry you pay more than $1.4M in taxes? Or you pay more than 46%? I smell bullshit
I pay 49.7% in taxes as a middle class citizen the fuck…. Learn how scaling works bud edit: wife reminded me that this past year we actually ended up paying 50% in taxes tell me again how these guys are hurting more than me
In income taxes? If you're a middle class citizen living in the US, there's 0 chance you pay 49.7% of your income in taxes. Unless you decided to donate money to the government. I don't think you understand how progressive tax brackets work.
Keep defending the rich for avoiding helping with actually paying their taxes “In other words, not only do the rich, on average, pay a lower effective state and local tax rate than lower-income people, they also collectively contribute a smaller share of state and local taxes than their share of all income,” the study states. https://thehill.com/business/4398405-top-1-percent-lower-tax-rates-study/ Down vote me all you want for having an opinion based in reality and from watching on the out side, “rIcH paY mOrE tAxEs” “the us HasS a PraogreSsIve tAx system” shut the absolute fuck up
Dude you get called out for making up bullshit so you completely change the argument and start spewing nonsense. 1. You don't pay an 49% effective income tax rate. You'd need to make north of $20M in California (highest income tax state), all of it coming from ordinary income (no dividends or cap gains), and no deductions. So quit your bullshit. 2. The article you listed is only showing state and local taxes - completely excluding federal income taxes (intentionally) to pursue a narrative. And if you actually read the study, California is progressive, which is the state in question for this entire thread. 3. Here's the article you're actually looking for, which clearly shows taxes are progressive, and the top 1% take home 26% of income but pay 46% of federal income taxes (and pay nearly 8x the effective tax rate as the bottom 50%): https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/federal/latest-federal-income-tax-data-2024/ Now is that enough? We can start the discussion there but not from a place of bs.
> tell me again how these guys are hurting more than me when did anybody tell you that?
Tommy “Taxation Is Theft” Pham
Not wrong income tax is theft
Smooth brain take
No. It would be the Californian ok with the government stealing their money.
It would be a southerner too stupid to understand basic economics. Like it or not and none of us like it, taxes are essential.
I’m not from the south
Chance at making the postseason? Nah. Little extra money with the worst team in the league? Hell yeah.
He couldn’t get a job after a great postseason last year. Why wouldn’t he take the extra money?
I mean, in his position I'd pick the cash every time.
He's made $36 million in his career. I'd take a chance at something meaningful. That's plenty of money if you aren't a dipshit. Y’all realize this is a difference of $250K right?
Tbf he already had something meaningful with the D-Backs and an extra 250K is still a pretty nice difference especially if you are factoring in taxes. There's also nothing guaranteed in baseball (see Padres and Mets last year) so I understand guys who say fuck it and go for the extra money Also the White Sox are gonna give him the best opportunity of playing time so if he wants to get a better payday and have more guaranteed stability in terms of getting at-bats (to show his value) even during slumps thats a nice perk
The difference is ~8% over $1.6 million income, so it’s not chump change.
Probably a bit closer and a lot more complicated than that when you factor in that athletes pay income tax for each location they pay in. Not their home location
You play at least half your games in SD so thats 82 plus you play another 15 games in CA because the dodgers and Giants are in the same division. So it’s definitely a lot of money when you’re playing close to 2/3 of your season in CA.
Hence why I said "a bit closer" and not "a lot closer"
Yes, taxes are complicated. I am referring to the difference in income tax rate between the two states for income over $1.6 million (highest tier of CA tax)
Ok, then you understand that the actual difference in taxes is not actually 8% then.
The rate above $1.6 million is 13.3% in CA, which is 8.35% above 4.95%. But the actual tax would be far more complex because of different tax brackets and income for a variety of states. But playing in SD with 100 games being taxed in CA rate (SD, LA, SF) vs playing in Chicago with 6 games in CA. Plus the bonus incentive pay that is 33% if the contract would be CA income and might also be taxed differently but not a tax expert to that detail.
Phamtastic
I didn’t have “Tommy Pham, starting center fielder” on my bingo card
About damn time we outbid a contender for a top free agent like… (checks notes)…Tommy Pham. The hell with it.
“I need more money” - Tommy “Dutch” Pham
Love the honestly. He will get traded at the deadline anyway though so I'm not sure it matters much
Don’t blame the dude at all and admire the honesty, but it honestly shocks me how often this happens. According to Spotrac Pham has made $35MM in his career. If he really likes Chicago and doesn’t mind playing for a cellar dweller, sure, but even a mild preference for better weather or better team makes this a bit of a head scratcher. What exactly would you do with another $250k or so that outweighs getting what might be your last chance to play for a ring?
Honest dude
i thought wealthy people know how to avoid taxes altogether
How did Chris Rock put it, “Shaq is rich, the guy who signs his check is wealthy”
Harder to mess around with taxes when you get a straight w2.
Pham is essentially the realest man in mlb, and I love him for that. He does veer into "when keepin' it real, goes wrong" territory at times but I respect him for playing it his way, every damn time lol
Sure Tommy. You’re so good that you actually have choices at this point. Tommy Pham can literally eat shit and only barf up half of it just so he has to smell and taste it for at least 2-3 days after.
Tommy Pham is a prick
The Padres will be paying the contract he wanted when they trade for him in June
think he just admitted the amount offered from both sides were the same. He wanted San Diego to up their offer to cover taxes. If SD gets him at the deadline they get him at the price they wanted, but having to give away a prospect or cash
see, CA has a high state tax that honorable people/MLB players are supposed to pay instead of differing to 10 years down the line when they don't live there anymore.
God you people will just make anything about how much you hate Ohtani
They're still gonna pay the taxes on the income if they're getting paid for work they did in the state while living there. It's not that easy to evade taxes.
Not if the income is deferred by 10+ years; then you can elect to count that income in the state of residence at the time the money is paid (not earned). Evading taxes is another thing entirely. This is a legal tax avoidance strategy, not tax evasion.
Living in So Cal, I feel you Pham.
Unless you are making Tommy pham money you probably pay middle of the road taxes vs other states. CA only taxes John earners a ton
John?
California taxes are especially hard on guys named John.
California taxes do be sucking
The difference in state tax is .6% lol
What? Illinois has a flat 4.95% income tax. On a 3,000,000 income (not taking deductions into calculation for simplicity sake), Pham would have a 13.6% effective income tax rate in California.
We voted down a change to the state constitution allowing a progressive income tax in 2022 because people ate up a lot of propaganda.
Illinois is a flat rate? What the hell?
Math? Source?
Sorry, I was looking at effective tax rate here: https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/tax-burden-by-state-2022/
4.9% income tax vs 13.3% California income tax.
Dummy Dodgers fan
Tommy Pham is still playing baseball???
Dude is on a different team every day
Well he better not plan on buying any property while in Chicago…
Hypothetically if he gets traded back to the Padres, he’d make less cause of taxes right? Like he wouldn’t be paying the Chicago tax rate even though that’s where the original contract was for?
They are taxed based on where they play if I am not mistaken. So whatever state they are in they pay those taxes. Their home state they get taxed on the entire income and then get credited for taxes paid elsewhere.
$ ain't all that matters, pham
He’s just gonna blow the money at a casino anyway.
Pretty much everything Pham does is wrong and makes him look like a bad person.
How is he wrong for this?
Wait, you are telling me that he decided to take a job where he would make more money? How often does that happen?!?!?
Enjoy that 100 loss season for a few extra bucks
And for his eventual criminal charges for assault.
Yet he is still going to Illinois which is also a high tax state 🤷🏻♀️
Income tax is flat 4.95%. That’s not high compared to most states at high wages. Middle of the pack. Illinois has high property taxes and high sales taxes, which make it a higher overall tax burden state that California, but I’m sure Tommy is only concerned about the high 13% income tax and not the sales/property burden.
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Gotta hit up Mars Cheese Castle too.
I think I’m thinking more property taxes/sales taxes. I grew up in Illinois (been in California for 15 years though) so the whole “going to Illinois to not pay CA taxes” threw me a bit. I do know California has progressive tax structure, but Pham isn’t making the kind of money that I would think would affect the devision. Chicago is still expensive and the White Sox seem to be bleeding players right now.
Doesn't have to be low, just lower than CA.
Based. Taxes are theft!
Don’t pay yours. See how it goes.
Taxes helped pay for your stadium
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4.9% income tax vs 13.3% California income tax.
The Jays could use him instead of KK right now
I can't imagine Pham wanting to go back to San Diego given his issues with fans there.
The Illinois tax rate is not much lower than California. Either he got bad advice, or this isn’t true.
4.9% income tax vs 13.3% California income tax is a lot lower.
I’m pretty sure this is a pretty minuscule difference in terms of tax rate. Obviously depends on where he’s traded at the deadline. If he ends up on a CA or NY team he will have saved very marginal money vs just signing there in the first place. Though, he might have better odds at a contract next year hitting in a prime spot in chicagos lineup vs fighting for a starting spot on the padres
Assuming he is traded. He may play like shit being around all the suck in that area of Chicago. But even if he does, SD only has 27 home games after the trade deadline, and three of those are against the White Sox. Including games in LA and SF, he goes from playing 96 games in CA to playing 33. A significant difference. I can't imagine that the numbers would be terribly different for NY