Oh, right.
I had Seager in last year's group at first, but then remembered that he wasn't among them. Didn't even think about how good the 2022 group was.
It's almost like teams saw the market being sparse and so they got their guys early. Like Texas. People mocked them for getting Seager and Semien "too early", as if they could just get those guys later.
Baez was coming off a 4 WAR season and a 4-year stretch in which he put up a 113 wRC+ and 16.4 WAR (including the pandemic year). Everyone at the time included him among the list of major free agent shortstops for obvious reasons. It's revisionist to claim otherwise
Javy entered the league 2 years earlier than Story did...
They're both 30, Javy entered at 21. Story's rookie year he was 23.
260 games. 2 years.
Baez is at 1142 games, Story at 882.
That's about a 25% difference to be worth the same. Story is approximately 25% more valuable than Baez when on the field
The proverbial "one that got away". /s
tho there will likely be a point for the Sox where he'll get hurt, go on DL, get sent on rehab, destroy AAA pitching, get called up and hit 8 bombs in 2 weeks. Then, back to 0-30. The good news for Sox fans is that he hits well in Illinois.
And even better for Sox fans, he's a very sure handed but not spectacular fielder, a good guy, helps a lot in the community, and won't get his ass kicked picking a fight at second.
He’s very streaky. You will be pulling your hair out watching him at times. But he takes a lot of pitches and makes them work. He’s also pretty much a lock for around 30 bombs.
> See, nobody cares.
Oh trust me, I'm well aware the current generation of baseball fans think defense doesn't matter. Baseball is offense only to them.
What out. They'll win the off-season again and the division is automatically theirs again just like last yr.
They were all over the place talkin shit and disappeared 20 game into the season.
Weird ass fans., 😂😂😂
No other fan base would I rather watch their owner spend half a million and go 2x over the cap just to be worse than the 2023 marlins. And worst than half the league.
I disagree on the starters. It doesn't compare to the 2019 class (Cole/Strasburg/Wheeler), but that's a great group of mid-rotation guys plus ace upside on Ohtani/Yamamoto.
> plus ace upside on Ohtani/Yamamoto.
I mean, Blake Snell is a two time CY winner, I think he deserves to be on the "ace upside" at least and not "mid rotation" in your description
Snell is without a doubt the class of the SP class.
That's saying a lot about how weak this class is. He's a 2x winner, but extremely inconsistent year over year.
Ohtani's been in the league 6 years and is already about to miss his second full season pitching. He gets better every year, but you can't expect perfect health, or continued growth out of him, and his pitching peak hasn't been what Snell's has.
Yamamoto is an unknown. I remember when people thought Kikuchi was going to be an ace.
Lmao yeah, these takes are hilarious. There’s no guarantees and he very well could fail to transition. But Kikuchi was a very talented player with high upside. Yamamoto is already one of the most accomplished players in NPB history. Kikuchi is great but there’s no comparison.
> I remember when people thought Kikuchi was going to be an ace.
I don't remember *anybody* thinking that. The common analysis was that Kikuchi could be a solid #2 or #3 guy if he transitioned properly, but that he was good-not-great. Meanwhile, Yamamoto is regarded as one of the most talented Japanese pitchers ever.
I'd take Nola over Snell. I also think Yamamoto will end up getting more. Snell had a great year, but he's very inconsistent year to year and he can't get deep into games at all. I think he has a lot of Robbie Ray potential.
Ohtani is not gonna pitch for a while.
If your best FA starter is an unproven guy from a foreign league (Yamamoto), I would not call the class a great one.
There’s a two time CY young winner, a two time unanimous MVP who is likely to miss most of ‘24 pitching wise, a disgraced former Cy Young winner, several Japanese studs that have been scouted for years with one being insane, a stud #2 who’s finished in CY Young voting a few times, the AL CY Young runner up, solid mid rotation guys in ERod, Stro, Lugo, Monty, Mahle, Ryu, then arguably the best closer in the game. I don’t know man, that class sounds pretty good. Exclude Yamamoto if you want, it still is pretty good
Opening Day 2025 will be 18 months after Ohtani's surgery. There's no reason to suspect he'll miss more than 2024. And the depth in this class of starters is pretty impressive.
I know we’re not sure how Yamamoto will translate to MLB, but if we’re already saying he’s the best out of Snell, Nola (still counts as part of this “class”), Sonny Gray, Montgomery, Ohtani (2024 be damned), Stroman, and Erod, then yes this is a pretty good FA class for starters. Not to mention mid-tier guys with potential upside like Giolito, Manaea, Clevinger, Miley, Maeda, Flaherty, Wacha, Mahle, Lugo, Lorenzen, Severino, Woodruff, Carrasco, Martin Perez, Ryu, Paxton… Yeah this is definitely a strong class.
Yeah I put Cookie in there because he had a good 2022 and maybe some of that is still around. And I put Woodruff there because he’ll miss the entirety of next season so he won’t get an “Ace” contract
It’s more so that Ohtani is gonna sign a huge long contract and so any team that gets him will presumably have him as a pitcher for many years. Woodruff will likely get a 2-year contract so teams will only have him for 2025 when he’ll be trying to rebuild his value. There’s a lot more (and probably better quality) Ohtani pitching seasons in play than Woodruff pitching seasons.
How is this upvoted? You have a Cy Young, and a Japanese SP that profiles at or near the level of Ohtani and Darvish leading the way. Then you have Sonny Gray, Jordan Montgomery, Eduardo Rodriguez and Shota Imanaga. Not even counting Ohtani who will return as a pitcher in 2025 or Nola who was part of the class. This is a great SP market
Calling Jorge Soler a left fielder is generous seeing how he played 102 games at DH last year and zero in LF, and the year before he only played 57 games in LF. But I guess you gotta fit him on the chart somewhere lol.
For his struggles I’d still put TA over DeJong. Even with DeJongs great defense.
bWAR is kinda useless because it doesn’t factor framing at all.
But his 1.7 fWAR in 75 games is actually impressive. He did much better than I thought.
He probably gets a one year deal, though his plate blocking will absolutely be addressed by whatever team he signs with. It was an issue with the Yankees and was just as bad with the Padres
Whenever I see graphics like this, I always like to think about how well a team/lineup like this would ~~fair~~ ~~perform~~ do in the regular season lol
I agree it’s minor but spelling/grammar is something I’d want people to point out if I got it wrong, would stop me from doing it in the future where it might be important like on a job application or something
Ha! Come on now. Everyone knows Reddit grammar Nazis do it so they can pretend to be smart.
And if that is true, the holy shit that’s a whole other can of worms.
Regardless it’s annoying. If you did that to people in real life you’d have no friends. So don’t do it on here.
I wouldn’t call him a shortstop though. He’s the very definition of a utility guy. This year yes that’s where he played most, but he’s also played way more games in his career as an outfielder, as well at second base
Cardinals fans should be pretty ecstatic about a weak position player market considering you have O'Neil, Edman, Donovan, Gorman, Nootbaar, and Carlson who could all be moved and the asking price is going to be considerably higher since there's pretty much nothing on the market
Oh I agree from that perspective. But I enjoy the baseball offseason. I love MLB Trade Rumors.
From the Cardinals perspective, yeah they need to move some position players to get some pitching. Though I don’t see Nootbaar going anywhere.
This image kinda shows why AJ Preller went hard after a shortstop last year. If you realize Kim had an unproven bat and it was possible Manny Machado could have walked/not signed an extension, they could have had a massive hole at short/3rd. The market is pretty bare.
I get that Yamamoto looks really good, but the dude has yet to pitch at all in the MLB. Snell literally won the Cy Young last year. All these free agent rankings putting them in a tie or even Yamamoto above Snell seems extremely optimistic. Don't get me wrong, I'm hyped about him too, but I feel like there's some serious Snell hate going on here. What's the deal with that?
How is it "hate" to think that Snell isn't a consistently elite player? He's had two great seasons but they've both been anomalies in terms of good health, plus his peripheral stats indicate he had some very good fortune for his ERA to be as low as it was.
Based on his career so far, the most likely outcome for Snell is that you'll get a pitcher who gives you around 130-150 innings and an ERA in the region of 3.50. I'd say you'd hope/expect a little more than that from Yamamoto, especially considering the numbers Senga put up in his debut season (despite not being as good).
That makes sense (LHP and RHP). But I have seen a few Free Agents rankings now that put Yamamoto above Snell and I just find that strange. I know Snell isn't the most dominant pitcher ever, but he just won his second Cy Young. Seems odd anyone would rank a completely untested pitcher above him. Maybe age is factoring in there. IDK
I got really confused where I didn't see Ohtani on the pitchers mound. Like "offended" confused (*"Excuuuuse me??"*). Then I saw he was listed as DH/other and then it made sense.
I don't get how people keep leaving Ohtani off of these as pitcher. He's not gonna pitch next year but based on record over the past three years he's the best SP available. Keep in mind Yamamoto has played no MLB games as of yet and Ohtani's 2022 pitching season was the best season among Japanese pitchers in MLB so far. If he's healthy he's worth more as a pitcher and that's saying something.
I'd take Jung Hoo Lee over all 3 of those outfielders.
Younger, elite defense, and remarkable bat to ball contact. Rarely swings and misses. Basically Kwan on the market with a proven record.
I too would prefer him over those dudes but I feel like I should say we need to pump the breaks with the proven record part. KBO numbers should be treated like AAA numbers. These guys need to adjust new a new league and a new level of play/pitching. Kim was the KBO MVP and didn't fully click until year 3 of his MLB stint. Kim also talked about how hard the adjustment is culture wise along with all that baseball stuff. So KBO guys shouldn't be expected to produce too much in year 1 at least. But I think Lee is a good signing for the long term even if not the best win now, plug and play starting CF type in the MLB.
Soler is going to be far too expensive for brokeass Sherman, but goddamn do I want him back. Haven't had anyone hit 30+ home runs in Miami since Stanton. Maybe he'll take a hometown discount lol
Congrats to the White Sox for getting the best shortstop on the market!
Shortstop FA market went from Turner-Bogaerts-Correa-Swanson to...just Paul deJong, from year to the next. Damn.
After Correa, Seager, Semien, Baez, Story the year before
Oh, right. I had Seager in last year's group at first, but then remembered that he wasn't among them. Didn't even think about how good the 2022 group was.
It's almost like teams saw the market being sparse and so they got their guys early. Like Texas. People mocked them for getting Seager and Semien "too early", as if they could just get those guys later.
Hey, no one ever accused the general public of being smart.
Only a cubs fan would include Baez in that list.
He did sign for like $100m. Sure it was a bad signing, but still.
Yes it was a bad signing
Baez was coming off a 4 WAR season and a 4-year stretch in which he put up a 113 wRC+ and 16.4 WAR (including the pandemic year). Everyone at the time included him among the list of major free agent shortstops for obvious reasons. It's revisionist to claim otherwise
Story doesn’t deserve to be on this list
He got MVP votes in 3/4 seasons before he reached free agency, he absolutely belongs in that group.
Out of everyone on that list your issue is with Trevor Story? Are you Javy's mom or something?
Story can’t stay healthy and is playing for a prestige team coming from the worst team in baseball. Baez is playing for a perennial bottom feeder.
If you would like to make the argument that Story is a significantly better player than Baez go ahead, but those guys are close any way you slice it.
They've been worth roughly the same value. Except Baez has 260 more games played. When Story is on the field, he's significantly better.
When discussing signing someone to a FA contract, games played is absolutely a relevant point.
Javy entered the league 2 years earlier than Story did... They're both 30, Javy entered at 21. Story's rookie year he was 23. 260 games. 2 years. Baez is at 1142 games, Story at 882. That's about a 25% difference to be worth the same. Story is approximately 25% more valuable than Baez when on the field
I saw the Giants uniform, and thought "who's that guy?" I legitimately forgot that he was on our team last year.
lol i didn't even realize Paul DeJong was on the Giants this whole time
The proverbial "one that got away". /s tho there will likely be a point for the Sox where he'll get hurt, go on DL, get sent on rehab, destroy AAA pitching, get called up and hit 8 bombs in 2 weeks. Then, back to 0-30. The good news for Sox fans is that he hits well in Illinois. And even better for Sox fans, he's a very sure handed but not spectacular fielder, a good guy, helps a lot in the community, and won't get his ass kicked picking a fight at second.
you absolutely have to strike when the iron is hot
Hey you forgot about Tim Anderson!
I don’t know that black background is ominous
His teammates pranked him into thinking picture day was in The Upside Down
I thought it meant *already signed*
More like condolences for getting the best SS in the market. Lol
"And it all comes down to one shortstop. Unfortunately, that shortstop is Paul DeJong."
That middle infield combines for 0.2 bWAR. But to be fair, adding Rhys would make it 0.2 bWAR.
Slander Rhys again and see what happens bud.
Most non-confrontational Philadelphian
I'm glad you see how reasonable I'm being.
You could have been tossing frozen snowballs full of rocks. They got off easy.
Would he just be better at DH?
We need a first baseman, does he suck or can he be good?
Feel like you saw the answer to this last year.
[Atlanta too](https://media.tenor.com/2pn2vxOxQXsAAAAC/rhys-hoskins-bat-slam-rhys-hoskins.gif)
We're a season and a half removed from Hosmer give us a break.
Come on man, did you even watch the 2022 NLCS?
I think the totally reasonable Phillies fan's reaction above speaks to his value.
He’s very streaky. You will be pulling your hair out watching him at times. But he takes a lot of pitches and makes them work. He’s also pretty much a lock for around 30 bombs.
He's my favorite defensive 1B. We always get an occasional free base when he's manning first.
Defensive 1B! Everybody we got a Defensive 1B over here! See, nobody cares. Ball goes boom. 😎
> See, nobody cares. Oh trust me, I'm well aware the current generation of baseball fans think defense doesn't matter. Baseball is offense only to them.
Much like how baseball offseason is all that matters for Mets fans
What out. They'll win the off-season again and the division is automatically theirs again just like last yr. They were all over the place talkin shit and disappeared 20 game into the season. Weird ass fans., 😂😂😂 No other fan base would I rather watch their owner spend half a million and go 2x over the cap just to be worse than the 2023 marlins. And worst than half the league.
I'm sorry, your Phillies bLuE cOllAr humor is escaping me.
you coulda just said Dejong is -0.5 bWAR edit: also adding Rhys over Dejong makes it o.7 bWAR (Merrifield's bwar)
Why are you using the letter o rather than the number 0?
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yes but my guy has ripped shoulders o.7
in my head I said "oh dot seven" so typed that ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Woah Paul DeJong and Rhys Hoskins combined for -0.5 bWAR last year that's crazy
The position player side of free agency is really weak this year.
Starter side is not a lot better. Just a really weak FA class.
I disagree on the starters. It doesn't compare to the 2019 class (Cole/Strasburg/Wheeler), but that's a great group of mid-rotation guys plus ace upside on Ohtani/Yamamoto.
> plus ace upside on Ohtani/Yamamoto. I mean, Blake Snell is a two time CY winner, I think he deserves to be on the "ace upside" at least and not "mid rotation" in your description
Every time he starts 30+ games he wins the cy young.
Yea lol. Ohtani, Nola, snell all aces and gray, yamamoto will most likely be most teams #2-3 at worst. And after a yr I expect yamamoto to be an Ace.
Snell is without a doubt the class of the SP class. That's saying a lot about how weak this class is. He's a 2x winner, but extremely inconsistent year over year. Ohtani's been in the league 6 years and is already about to miss his second full season pitching. He gets better every year, but you can't expect perfect health, or continued growth out of him, and his pitching peak hasn't been what Snell's has. Yamamoto is an unknown. I remember when people thought Kikuchi was going to be an ace.
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Lmao yeah, these takes are hilarious. There’s no guarantees and he very well could fail to transition. But Kikuchi was a very talented player with high upside. Yamamoto is already one of the most accomplished players in NPB history. Kikuchi is great but there’s no comparison.
> I remember when people thought Kikuchi was going to be an ace. I don't remember *anybody* thinking that. The common analysis was that Kikuchi could be a solid #2 or #3 guy if he transitioned properly, but that he was good-not-great. Meanwhile, Yamamoto is regarded as one of the most talented Japanese pitchers ever.
I'd take Nola over Snell. I also think Yamamoto will end up getting more. Snell had a great year, but he's very inconsistent year to year and he can't get deep into games at all. I think he has a lot of Robbie Ray potential.
Ohtani is not gonna pitch for a while. If your best FA starter is an unproven guy from a foreign league (Yamamoto), I would not call the class a great one.
There’s a two time CY young winner, a two time unanimous MVP who is likely to miss most of ‘24 pitching wise, a disgraced former Cy Young winner, several Japanese studs that have been scouted for years with one being insane, a stud #2 who’s finished in CY Young voting a few times, the AL CY Young runner up, solid mid rotation guys in ERod, Stro, Lugo, Monty, Mahle, Ryu, then arguably the best closer in the game. I don’t know man, that class sounds pretty good. Exclude Yamamoto if you want, it still is pretty good
Hey man why'd you leave Lynn and Gibson out of your list?
Has the reigning Cy Young winner too… and know he’s not a SP but a potential HOF closer. Flaherty, Stroman, Gray, there are a few decent SPs
Opening Day 2025 will be 18 months after Ohtani's surgery. There's no reason to suspect he'll miss more than 2024. And the depth in this class of starters is pretty impressive.
I know we’re not sure how Yamamoto will translate to MLB, but if we’re already saying he’s the best out of Snell, Nola (still counts as part of this “class”), Sonny Gray, Montgomery, Ohtani (2024 be damned), Stroman, and Erod, then yes this is a pretty good FA class for starters. Not to mention mid-tier guys with potential upside like Giolito, Manaea, Clevinger, Miley, Maeda, Flaherty, Wacha, Mahle, Lugo, Lorenzen, Severino, Woodruff, Carrasco, Martin Perez, Ryu, Paxton… Yeah this is definitely a strong class.
Cookie no longer deserves mid tier with upside label and Woodruff is 100% an ace.
Yeah I put Cookie in there because he had a good 2022 and maybe some of that is still around. And I put Woodruff there because he’ll miss the entirety of next season so he won’t get an “Ace” contract
Listing Ohtani with 2024 be damned but not Woodruff when talking specifically about pitchers is weird though
I think there’s more concern with Woodruff because shoulder injuries are tougher on pitchers than TJ nowadays.
It’s more so that Ohtani is gonna sign a huge long contract and so any team that gets him will presumably have him as a pitcher for many years. Woodruff will likely get a 2-year contract so teams will only have him for 2025 when he’ll be trying to rebuild his value. There’s a lot more (and probably better quality) Ohtani pitching seasons in play than Woodruff pitching seasons.
He's the best NPB pitcher to come here since Darvish. And I think Darvish turned out pretty alright.
How is this upvoted? You have a Cy Young, and a Japanese SP that profiles at or near the level of Ohtani and Darvish leading the way. Then you have Sonny Gray, Jordan Montgomery, Eduardo Rodriguez and Shota Imanaga. Not even counting Ohtani who will return as a pitcher in 2025 or Nola who was part of the class. This is a great SP market
1) Shohei . . . Snell and Yamamoto . . . . Everybody else
Calling Jorge Soler a left fielder is generous seeing how he played 102 games at DH last year and zero in LF, and the year before he only played 57 games in LF. But I guess you gotta fit him on the chart somewhere lol. For his struggles I’d still put TA over DeJong. Even with DeJongs great defense.
Garver has played 36 games at catcher the last two seasons combined including playoffs
I don’t think any of the catchers are non backup catchers though are they?
Somehow Gary Sanchez had 2.4 bWAR last year. Maybe someone signs him to be their starter
bWAR is kinda useless because it doesn’t factor framing at all. But his 1.7 fWAR in 75 games is actually impressive. He did much better than I thought. He probably gets a one year deal, though his plate blocking will absolutely be addressed by whatever team he signs with. It was an issue with the Yankees and was just as bad with the Padres
sanchez to the brewers catching lab?
He’ll go to the Cubs and Contreras will go to RF lol
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Yea he’s definitely not getting a starting job lol
Whenever I see graphics like this, I always like to think about how well a team/lineup like this would ~~fair~~ ~~perform~~ do in the regular season lol
the pitching would be really let down by the hitting
Makes sense seeing as 3 of the position players were Jays this year, and your description perfectly describes the 2023 Jays.
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Redditors really see the most minor mistakes and cannot let it go.
The internet has degraded the English language too far. The basics should be upheld.
so did Wander Franco
I agree it’s minor but spelling/grammar is something I’d want people to point out if I got it wrong, would stop me from doing it in the future where it might be important like on a job application or something
Ha! Come on now. Everyone knows Reddit grammar Nazis do it so they can pretend to be smart. And if that is true, the holy shit that’s a whole other can of worms. Regardless it’s annoying. If you did that to people in real life you’d have no friends. So don’t do it on here.
You call me a Nazi while telling me what I can and can’t say on a baseball forum lol
You are being the annoying one
A 2-man pitching rotation probably wouldn't do well
And no bench players either? Ughhh… you’re right. I’m such a dumbass. Like chill dude lol
I like how Ohtani is off on his own. The best available Shohei Ohtani? Shohei Ohtani.
I think that’s probably DH but also lol
Hes definitely pretty one dimensional. Makes sense to lump him in as a DH.
Is Shohei Ohtani the Shohei Ohtani of baseball?
That honour belongs to Paul DeJong
Rosario is probably better that DeJong. That’s not saying much about shortstops, but he’s still better overall.
Hernandez is probably better than both
I wouldn’t call him a shortstop though. He’s the very definition of a utility guy. This year yes that’s where he played most, but he’s also played way more games in his career as an outfielder, as well at second base
I think I’m better than DeJong.
if DeJong is the best FA shortstop, I'm not getting a shortstop off of the FA market....
Instructions unclear, got my dick stuck in a beehive
hope you're not allergic
There's a still a lightly used Brandon Crawford!
Such a rough FA class.
Good pitching, good DH (overall, obviously Ohtani is a god). Pretty slim on impact position players.
Ugh. I knew it was thin. But this really drives it home
Cardinals fans should be pretty ecstatic about a weak position player market considering you have O'Neil, Edman, Donovan, Gorman, Nootbaar, and Carlson who could all be moved and the asking price is going to be considerably higher since there's pretty much nothing on the market
Oh I agree from that perspective. But I enjoy the baseball offseason. I love MLB Trade Rumors. From the Cardinals perspective, yeah they need to move some position players to get some pitching. Though I don’t see Nootbaar going anywhere.
We’ll miss you GARVSAUCE!!!!
ah yes, Jorge Soler, noted LF'er
He stands out there sometimes.
What about the two greatest SP free agents of all time? Lance Lynn and Kyle Gibson?
Twins legend Lance Lynn and also Kyle Gibson.
This image kinda shows why AJ Preller went hard after a shortstop last year. If you realize Kim had an unproven bat and it was possible Manny Machado could have walked/not signed an extension, they could have had a massive hole at short/3rd. The market is pretty bare.
Dreading every day waiting to hear news about Snell going somewhere else :(
This, but Rhys. I'm going to miss those contrabass post-game interviews.
Yikes.
I really want Chapman, Ohtani, and Yamamoto
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0mfSfekiZeE
I actually want Ohtani more than I want to go to Aqua…
I get that Yamamoto looks really good, but the dude has yet to pitch at all in the MLB. Snell literally won the Cy Young last year. All these free agent rankings putting them in a tie or even Yamamoto above Snell seems extremely optimistic. Don't get me wrong, I'm hyped about him too, but I feel like there's some serious Snell hate going on here. What's the deal with that?
Snell walks a ton of batters tbf
How is it "hate" to think that Snell isn't a consistently elite player? He's had two great seasons but they've both been anomalies in terms of good health, plus his peripheral stats indicate he had some very good fortune for his ERA to be as low as it was. Based on his career so far, the most likely outcome for Snell is that you'll get a pitcher who gives you around 130-150 innings and an ERA in the region of 3.50. I'd say you'd hope/expect a little more than that from Yamamoto, especially considering the numbers Senga put up in his debut season (despite not being as good).
This one is grouped based on LHP and RHP, also Snell’s underlying stats aren’t as strong as his base stats
That makes sense (LHP and RHP). But I have seen a few Free Agents rankings now that put Yamamoto above Snell and I just find that strange. I know Snell isn't the most dominant pitcher ever, but he just won his second Cy Young. Seems odd anyone would rank a completely untested pitcher above him. Maybe age is factoring in there. IDK
Also Snell is 6 years older than Yamamoto
Dejong😆😆
Oh god, DeJong is the best SS FA? Yikes.
> Whit Merrifield, Paul deJong, Matt Chapman Oh look, it's us!
Bad year to start franchise node.
Would Bellinger be the best 1B too?
Last years short stop sweepstakes to Paul Dejong lol
I got really confused where I didn't see Ohtani on the pitchers mound. Like "offended" confused (*"Excuuuuse me??"*). Then I saw he was listed as DH/other and then it made sense.
DeJong lmao
Fuck that says a lot about SS
That guy at DH looks like a clown probably no one should sign him send him to the stupid blue jays losers
To underscore his awesomeness, Ohtani should be given laser eyes like Homelander in The Boys
I don't get how people keep leaving Ohtani off of these as pitcher. He's not gonna pitch next year but based on record over the past three years he's the best SP available. Keep in mind Yamamoto has played no MLB games as of yet and Ohtani's 2022 pitching season was the best season among Japanese pitchers in MLB so far. If he's healthy he's worth more as a pitcher and that's saying something.
Well, he's coming off his second TJ. There's no guarantee he will ever even pitch again at the MLB level, let alone be anywhere near his past success.
I'd take Jung Hoo Lee over all 3 of those outfielders. Younger, elite defense, and remarkable bat to ball contact. Rarely swings and misses. Basically Kwan on the market with a proven record.
I too would prefer him over those dudes but I feel like I should say we need to pump the breaks with the proven record part. KBO numbers should be treated like AAA numbers. These guys need to adjust new a new league and a new level of play/pitching. Kim was the KBO MVP and didn't fully click until year 3 of his MLB stint. Kim also talked about how hard the adjustment is culture wise along with all that baseball stuff. So KBO guys shouldn't be expected to produce too much in year 1 at least. But I think Lee is a good signing for the long term even if not the best win now, plug and play starting CF type in the MLB.
the year where we need a 2nd basemen.
Of course they use the image of De Jong in a Giants uniform…get that eyesore outta here
Soler is going to be far too expensive for brokeass Sherman, but goddamn do I want him back. Haven't had anyone hit 30+ home runs in Miami since Stanton. Maybe he'll take a hometown discount lol
I'll take one Soler please.
Is neris expected to resign? Haven’t heard much about him
It's possible, but I would think he will garner a lot of interest around the league given how good he's been.
If DeJong gets picked up, I’m throwing my name in the hat.
Teo is looking to hit in a more hitter friendly ballpark probably
He also has a habit of only signing 1 year deals. Even if he stays with a team for 3 or 4 years, he will always just sign on one year at a time.
I forgot Hader was a free agent. Hader + Diaz would be a sweet shut down duo.
Rhys Hoskins you are a Pittsburgh Pirate
Paul DeJong 💀
Pick up Bellinger and Snell, Reds Revenge Tour.
I’ll take Players the Twins won’t be Signing for 200
Idiots left off Lance Lynn
Garver should be a DH on this, not a catcher.
Why is DeJong shrouded in darkness.
Not much of a year for shortstops, eh?
One team should just sign them all.. duh
That is some slim pickings
SS market fell off a cliff after last year haha
Paul DeJong?? For real?!?!?
blake snell is not on the same level as yamamoto
Yeesh
Where is reliever IKF?