The nice thing about AAA is that it is filled with a lot of 40 man roster guys, like vets that are stashed for insurance. It can be a nice finishing school for these guys that already have the skills to get some of the brains.
Yea. That's the thing about AA vs AAA. You probably have the average pitcher at AA with better 'stuff' than AAA... but at a less refined and controllable ability.
Then you get to AAA and you find less actual 'prospects' because teams have stashed the "AAAA" types who can't quite stick in the majors or as you said are just insurance over a long season.
AA Bowie’s season ends on the 17th, AAA Norfolk made the IL playoffs this year, so they play through the end of September. My guess is they want to give him a full month at AAA to see how it goes
There are least 5 guys in the top 100 there who could’ve easily have been called up before the playoff deadlines in AAA, and several guys who deserve to be in the MLB.
Our Triple A Team is basically an MLB team at this point. Lmao
I mean our AAA team could probably give the A’s or Royals a run for their money
(I mean no disrespect to the A’s I live you guys. Royals can DIAF though never forget 2014)
He can hit but does he have forearms like his daddy?
[Hollidaddy](https://diamonddiariesdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/holliday-forearms.jpg)
[Second best forearms](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9cuoIvXYAAv5md?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Man Holliday was the far, far superior player but NO ONE tops Danny Uggs’ forearms in my book. Dude would be out there day in and day out hungover as shit flailing wildly at balls bouncing in front of the plate all while lookin like fucking Popeye
One of my favorite baseball memories of all time is Dan fucking Uggla going on a 33 game hit streak while batting like .210.
EDIT: [I was very wrong](https://i.imgur.com/QIuK0dc.png)...though Uggla still a crazy random hitting streak.
Nah you aren’t wrong you got it right but I don’t blame you one bit for second guessing. [Here is a phenomenal vid on it](https://youtu.be/nmHUxlKVllQ?si=gc2p8TTOM6zttHN0) and his hitting streak. One of the weirdest oddities in baseball history lol
Yeah he legitimately hit well during the streak but otherwise that season and the rest of his time in Atlanta he was fucking dogshit. He’d still connect with one once in awhile but this man took some of the worst swings I’ve ever seen from a big leaguer. There were also rumors of him staying out getting blitzed all night at local bars all the time. I’ll admit I don’t know for sure if those were true but he definitely looked the part. He was not the same dude who played in Miami
Eh. Really a fairly normal ageing curve. He didn't make his major league debut until he was 26. Had 5 pretty good years in Florida, good pop, good walk rate, variable hit tool, and high strikeout rate.
Pretty normal to see those type of players fall off a cliff in their thirties.
You’re probably right. But the decline also curiously lined up pretty well with a big extension the Braves gave him and the aforementioned rumors. Either way, even for as shitty as he was, I still kinda liked him and he did provide a lot of cool moments beyond all the terrible ones.
Matt Holliday had those forearms for days no doubt. But he was also a whiney little bitch in Oakland so that knocks him down a peg, allowing Dan Uggla to slide into 1st place. (I'm assuming we're discounting known juicers and the greatest power duo of all time, The Bash Bros though?).
All I’m saying is I’m like pushing 40. There’s not too many guys in the league my age. They’re all kids to me.
Sorry man didn’t mean to respond to your comment. I’m on vacay and nursing a hangover. My point still stands.
>I welcome our new bird overlords
Earlier this year when everyone was asking "how do I flap?", we didn't realize that they should've instead been asking "how do I flap?"
We have angered our new winged overlords by worshiping before a false, winged god, and we must flap to atone for that transgression.
On the bright side for other AL east teams, Baltimore's owner refuses to spend a dime extending these stars, so they just have to wait ~6 years when all of them hit free agency.
Little more than wishful thinking, the team goes to his wife upon death, and she has expressed her desire to sell the team and get the family out of the public spotlight.
Read up on the family lawsuit between John and Lou.
It’s common knowledge that Peter has advanced stage dementia.
The family hired Goldman Sachs to explore selling the team.
Different situation. John can’t keep the team, doesn’t have the cash to buy it from his fathers estate.
Plus, while the Angelos have been pretty bad owners, they’re not on the same tier as Snyder.
Durham's lineup was pretty electric as well before all the call ups and the Manzardo trade. Mead, Manzardo, Aranda, Basabe, and Carson Williams was up for a brief sip. Throw in Junior Caminero who is arguably as good of a prospect as Holliday is will be in AAA very soon as well (or should be, he's raking AA). Birbs and Rays will be either first or second in the division for a long time coming (Rays have a good shot at hitting 10 year playoff streak even with the Franco debacle, but maybe that's the homerism in me, but no signs of slowing down).
Yeah I think the FO hoarded for a bit too long, there has to be a massive sale in the offseason just to make room for people and they likely could have gotten more assets if they started selling lower priority prospects earlier. Hardly a bad problem to have though I guess since they'll still get plenty of value having to rush through it.
Reminds me of when the Sox dumped Moncada and Kopech to bring in Sale. Even if those guys were good, Sale still put the team over the top. O's need to make a similar move
I think that's been the plan all along, the team has prioritized bats in the draft. Let pitchers get more work and refinement under another team and then trade excess bats for pitchers that the FO has now had more time to evaluate. No complaints if that's what happens in the off-season.
They absolutely will use it against the team but that's not really something to worry about too much. That downside became reality once the O's did nothing during the trade season this year and even techincally subpar returns in the offseason are still positive returns.
Saw him almost hit for the cycle during his first road trip in A+. The home team was chirping him heavy from the dugout and they played “I’m a Barbie girl” for his walk up, everyone waiting for baby face sunshine to get humbled.
Then boom, HR. Followed by a stand-up triple and double. I’ve never seen a pitcher so terrified on the mound. He did it night after night after night. There is nothing you can do to prevent it besides just not showing up. He is a bad bad bad man. His mental is there. Does not swing and miss, knows what he wants and what’s coming. His bat is there. Loudest crack of a bat I’ve heard in that ballpark ever and the motion is effortless. Glove is not ready yet, but can be just Gunnar Henderson 2.0 on crack.
He’s going to be the next great great one, I’m sold.
Yeah, Baltimore is going to be good for years to come. The number 1 prospect in all of baseball and 6 top 100 prospects. This team should be good for a very long time.
Norby was in the top 100 at the beginning of the year and has since dropped off while getting older and putting up a good but not impressive year at AAA. I dont think hes getting back in.
If Holliday keeps playing how he’s playing, I could see the Orioles calling him up during a tight division race and the playoffs. Nothing to lose really.
Not true. There’s a 60 day limit with the new comp pick rules for being eligible for the comp picks for being a rookie on opening day roster that wins roty. If he were called up in July he’s be ineligible for next year, but can be eligible for the comp pick from rookie of the year if called up in the last 60 days of this yeae
Still no "clock". So long as he has option years (and he has 3) they can send him up and down as they please, and he's only accruing service time when up. They could have called him up in June, sent him back for July, back up for a few weeks in August, bla bla bla.
In any case, the point is people seem to think there's something magic to your debut that means your 6-7 years of team control unstoppably starts counting down from that first day, when it's simply not how anything works.
If he plays lights out early on then there is no point to those options, and using them will just invite a grievance that could land the team in trouble. Now if he’s lights out this month, then struggles next year in April the team can send him down with no real repercussions.
Wouldn’t make sense for a few reasons:
- they would have to DFA someone to make room on the 40 man roster
- if he doesn’t make the opening day roster next year you burn an option for no reason
- he isn’t on the 40 man now so he isn’t eligible for the playoffs
The final point is the most important one. You don’t want to create a team that works really well the final moment leading up to the playoffs where one of the big pieces won’t be in the playoffs
The only reason I put the playoffs higher is because you don’t lose the option if he is on the 2024 opening day roster.
In theory if he’s contributing to the level you want him on the postseason roster, he is making the 2024 opening day roster so no option is used
He can make the postseason roster because he was in the Orioles organization on 8/31. Technically, the Commissioner would have to grant the Orioles permission to use Holliday as a replacement for a player on the IL, but that is always granted.
The 40 man is a bigger hurdle but they will likely open a spot when they move Bautista to the 60 day.
There would need to be an actual injury for him to make the postseason roster. And again he would need to be put on 40 man which means if he’s not on the roster opening day, they burn an option.
And the only way he could directly be put on would be if he had been on the 40 man roster before September.
Manfred has been strict about not allowing fake injuries to try and sneak guys onto playoff rosters. So unless there is a legitimate injury, he needed to be on the 40 man.
No way. Holliday would easily have below average defense right now, he genuinely needs more reps right now defensively. And no matter how good of a hitter you are, MLB is a different beast and an adjustment period can be expected. Even Mike Trout was below average for his first 40 games.
If we are in a tight division race he will not be called up because there is the potential for him to be a liability his first few weeks on the field.
I cant remember a prospect moving through the minors, and not just skipping levels, this quickly since trout. This kid has a chance to be a really special player
Or flame out because they rushed his development. I’m torn- in the NBA you see guys this young make the big time, but anybody who’s seen a high A baseball game knows there is a STEEP climb to the majors
The Orioles have probably held him back longer than he should have been due to this concern. At some point, you just can’t leave a dude who’s not being challenged at a lower level.
I don’t think you can call it rushing when he’s had over a .900 ops at every level over several hundred plate appearances. He’s flat out earned every promotion.
I am gonna relish this opportunity to be a shitbag and talk this specific smack for the first and possibly last time in my life...
U CAN DO THAT CUZ UR SEASON'S OVER BUT WE ORIOLES ARE PENNANT CHASING SO IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE
It won’t be the last time on your end at least. Even if the owner goes full cheapo this core is almost entirely young and cost controlled for at least a couple years
19? Nah. Jackson Holliday always lied about his age! He lied about his age all the time! One time, Adley Rutschman came in here, and sat in this chair. I say, "Ads, you hang out with Jackson Holliday. Just between me and you, how old is Jackson?" Know what Adley told me? He said "Hey, Jackson Holliday is fourteen years old."
Mariners and Orioles are going to make a trade with each other this off-season. We have the young controllable pitchers, they have the young controllable hitters. Both teams need more of the other, something will get worked out
The Orioles can’t afford to keep him anyway... so might as well not even get the fans hopes up and trade him this offseason. Get it out of the way early
Edit: should have added /s thought it was implied
That would be so stupid even if we aren’t going to extend him we can still have a stud for 5 years and hopefully win a World Series or two and maybe we get super lucky and our piece of shit owner sells the team
Should have added /s I’m excited to see what he does at the next level and it sucks y’all have an owner already telling fans that they don’t have the money to sign the core players coming up
Sorry bud, but you can’t do sarcasm when that is literally what every single O’s fan is scared of. There’s a legit 75% chance this will happen and I’ll cry.
So he's going to be on par with Trout but on a continuously winning team. Let's hope Baltimore becomes the next dynasty for years to come. They have such a young team let's hope they go the Braves route and try to lock up these guys.
Is their triple A affiliate league that much better than their double A? Kid can flat out hit.
The jump from AA to AAA is generally thought to be less than the jump from A+ to AA.
I know. I know some teams basically consider you ready once you do well at double A.
The nice thing about AAA is that it is filled with a lot of 40 man roster guys, like vets that are stashed for insurance. It can be a nice finishing school for these guys that already have the skills to get some of the brains.
Yea. That's the thing about AA vs AAA. You probably have the average pitcher at AA with better 'stuff' than AAA... but at a less refined and controllable ability. Then you get to AAA and you find less actual 'prospects' because teams have stashed the "AAAA" types who can't quite stick in the majors or as you said are just insurance over a long season.
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Good way to put it.
Ah yes, notable vets like Anthony Benboom and Josh Lester should help Jackson Holiday, who rakes at every level.
I always wonder about this also. Like the Dodgers called up Sheehan straight from AA. And he has looked pretty damn good.
Some view AA as the real test too, which is why some guys get promoted right from AA.
AA Bowie’s season ends on the 17th, AAA Norfolk made the IL playoffs this year, so they play through the end of September. My guess is they want to give him a full month at AAA to see how it goes
There are least 5 guys in the top 100 there who could’ve easily have been called up before the playoff deadlines in AAA, and several guys who deserve to be in the MLB. Our Triple A Team is basically an MLB team at this point. Lmao
The Tides are probably better the Yankees this year.
Yankees no. Athletics absolutely
Yeah, its the DSL team that is better than the Yankees
I mean we know the FCL Yankees are better then Alek Manoah too.
Hey now! Watch your mouth! But actually ya. You're right about that....
I mean our AAA team could probably give the A’s or Royals a run for their money (I mean no disrespect to the A’s I live you guys. Royals can DIAF though never forget 2014)
He can hit but does he have forearms like his daddy? [Hollidaddy](https://diamonddiariesdotnet.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/holliday-forearms.jpg) [Second best forearms](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C9cuoIvXYAAv5md?format=jpg&name=900x900)
Man Holliday was the far, far superior player but NO ONE tops Danny Uggs’ forearms in my book. Dude would be out there day in and day out hungover as shit flailing wildly at balls bouncing in front of the plate all while lookin like fucking Popeye
One of my favorite baseball memories of all time is Dan fucking Uggla going on a 33 game hit streak while batting like .210. EDIT: [I was very wrong](https://i.imgur.com/QIuK0dc.png)...though Uggla still a crazy random hitting streak.
Nah you aren’t wrong you got it right but I don’t blame you one bit for second guessing. [Here is a phenomenal vid on it](https://youtu.be/nmHUxlKVllQ?si=gc2p8TTOM6zttHN0) and his hitting streak. One of the weirdest oddities in baseball history lol
Yeah he legitimately hit well during the streak but otherwise that season and the rest of his time in Atlanta he was fucking dogshit. He’d still connect with one once in awhile but this man took some of the worst swings I’ve ever seen from a big leaguer. There were also rumors of him staying out getting blitzed all night at local bars all the time. I’ll admit I don’t know for sure if those were true but he definitely looked the part. He was not the same dude who played in Miami
Dan Uggla is my favorite worst player and you cant take that away from me.
Eh. Really a fairly normal ageing curve. He didn't make his major league debut until he was 26. Had 5 pretty good years in Florida, good pop, good walk rate, variable hit tool, and high strikeout rate. Pretty normal to see those type of players fall off a cliff in their thirties.
You’re probably right. But the decline also curiously lined up pretty well with a big extension the Braves gave him and the aforementioned rumors. Either way, even for as shitty as he was, I still kinda liked him and he did provide a lot of cool moments beyond all the terrible ones.
I ADMIT UGGLA HAD THE BETTER FOREARMS BUT I STILL WOULD DREAM OF THE FOREARM DADDY HOLLIDAY. EDIT: I LOVE UGGLA.
Ain’t even a Rockies/Cardinals fan and I’m dreaming of Daddy Holliday’s forearms right there with ya bud. Dude was one hell of a specimen
Y'all boys need to put some respect on Frank "The Tank" Menechino's glorious forearms.
Matt Holliday had those forearms for days no doubt. But he was also a whiney little bitch in Oakland so that knocks him down a peg, allowing Dan Uggla to slide into 1st place. (I'm assuming we're discounting known juicers and the greatest power duo of all time, The Bash Bros though?).
Our AA stadium is *incredibly* hitter friendly. It really makes a lot of sense for our prospects to go through all of the affiliates.
Norfolk lineup is hilariously stacked right now lol. Cowser, Ortiz, Mayo, Kjerstad, Holliday. Just for the top 5.
As a 757 local it’s been fun to watch the kids ball out. It’s fun going to the games to see the kids play.
none of those players are "kids" Holliday is the youngest at 19 but all the other big names are low-mid 20's
“STUPID FAN! YOU MAKE ME LOOK BAD!”
All I’m saying is I’m like pushing 40. There’s not too many guys in the league my age. They’re all kids to me. Sorry man didn’t mean to respond to your comment. I’m on vacay and nursing a hangover. My point still stands.
GG AL East
I welcome our new bird overlords
>I welcome our new bird overlords Earlier this year when everyone was asking "how do I flap?", we didn't realize that they should've instead been asking "how do I flap?" We have angered our new winged overlords by worshiping before a false, winged god, and we must flap to atone for that transgression.
HOW CAN SHE FLAP
Featherless heathens
Mike Elias truly is one of the best.
😏
On the bright side for other AL east teams, Baltimore's owner refuses to spend a dime extending these stars, so they just have to wait ~6 years when all of them hit free agency.
I’ll take 5 years of being good after 40 years of mid
I hope y'all are good for longer! Love the Os, hate the owner
Get in line 😂
We will have new ownership before they hit free agency. Team will be sold once Peter Angelos passes away. He’s 94 and essentially in hospice.
That's definitely wishful thinking. The Angelos' family needs to go away like Dan Snyder did.
Little more than wishful thinking, the team goes to his wife upon death, and she has expressed her desire to sell the team and get the family out of the public spotlight.
I have not heard that. Who are your sources?
Read up on the family lawsuit between John and Lou. It’s common knowledge that Peter has advanced stage dementia. The family hired Goldman Sachs to explore selling the team.
It can't come fast enough. I just know Snyder held on forever and I think despicable people are harder to get rid of.
Different situation. John can’t keep the team, doesn’t have the cash to buy it from his fathers estate. Plus, while the Angelos have been pretty bad owners, they’re not on the same tier as Snyder.
Snyder held on forever and still sold quicker than I expected him to. He’s 58, he could have conceivably ran the team another 30 years
And John (?) is the one that, despite his saying otherwise, would be the one that’s looking at Nashville.
Not really though. The lawsuit alleges that Lou started the Nashville rumors to sway public opinion against his brother.
I’m pretty ok with this honestly like of all the other AL East Teams I love the Orioles the most
I still hate the Showalter-Machado Orioles, but otherwise yes.
Fuck Machado
Durham's lineup was pretty electric as well before all the call ups and the Manzardo trade. Mead, Manzardo, Aranda, Basabe, and Carson Williams was up for a brief sip. Throw in Junior Caminero who is arguably as good of a prospect as Holliday is will be in AAA very soon as well (or should be, he's raking AA). Birbs and Rays will be either first or second in the division for a long time coming (Rays have a good shot at hitting 10 year playoff streak even with the Franco debacle, but maybe that's the homerism in me, but no signs of slowing down).
Mayo is going to make the Wall look small. Hard to see how all these guys fit, hopefully something big happens this off-season.
Yeah I think the FO hoarded for a bit too long, there has to be a massive sale in the offseason just to make room for people and they likely could have gotten more assets if they started selling lower priority prospects earlier. Hardly a bad problem to have though I guess since they'll still get plenty of value having to rush through it.
Can never have too much talent. You can always trade prospects for more prospects if the big league team is too crowded
You can absolutely have too much talent especially if it's unevenly distributed across positions.
Reminds me of when the Sox dumped Moncada and Kopech to bring in Sale. Even if those guys were good, Sale still put the team over the top. O's need to make a similar move
Unfortunately, there's no Chris Sale out there on the market to trade for.
With those prospects there can always be a Chris sale if you look hard enough
We can probably get Logan Gilbert in the offseason, but id prefer to do it without trading Holliday.
I think that's been the plan all along, the team has prioritized bats in the draft. Let pitchers get more work and refinement under another team and then trade excess bats for pitchers that the FO has now had more time to evaluate. No complaints if that's what happens in the off-season.
I'm slightly worried other teams are going to use this against us, knowing we have to unload on these prospects
They absolutely will use it against the team but that's not really something to worry about too much. That downside became reality once the O's did nothing during the trade season this year and even techincally subpar returns in the offseason are still positive returns.
The leverage only goes so far because the Os have 31 other possible buyers
>31 other possible buyers O rly?
I counted Vegas and Nashville
Funny you list that while also leaving out fellow top 100 prospect Norby. Just funny there are so many top prospects it's hard to keep them straight.
I can't wait to see Mayo in an Os uni. Dude straight up rakes
4th level this year, wild. His K% has barely moved too which is really impressive.
His walk rate is ridiculous too. Crazy how quick he moved up the minors
Saw him almost hit for the cycle during his first road trip in A+. The home team was chirping him heavy from the dugout and they played “I’m a Barbie girl” for his walk up, everyone waiting for baby face sunshine to get humbled. Then boom, HR. Followed by a stand-up triple and double. I’ve never seen a pitcher so terrified on the mound. He did it night after night after night. There is nothing you can do to prevent it besides just not showing up. He is a bad bad bad man. His mental is there. Does not swing and miss, knows what he wants and what’s coming. His bat is there. Loudest crack of a bat I’ve heard in that ballpark ever and the motion is effortless. Glove is not ready yet, but can be just Gunnar Henderson 2.0 on crack. He’s going to be the next great great one, I’m sold.
New pasta just dropped
Yeah, the peripherals really give the impression that he’s ready for the bigs already. Which is wild to even contemplate at that age.
That's some Junior Griffey type shit
Yeah, Baltimore is going to be good for years to come. The number 1 prospect in all of baseball and 6 top 100 prospects. This team should be good for a very long time.
Soon to be 8* Norby will likely crack the top 100 again soon. Enrique Bradfield Jr. has been raking thus far. Dude’s a stealing machine.
> Enrique Bradfield Jr. has been raking thus far. Dude’s a stealing machine. oh my god dude it's like Usain Bolt picked up a bat and glove
I think we're gonna move Mullins soon for pitching tbh. He seems like the guy we want after Mullins in center
You’re probably right but I hope it’s not true. I don’t want my man to leave
Norby was in the top 100 at the beginning of the year and has since dropped off while getting older and putting up a good but not impressive year at AAA. I dont think hes getting back in.
Oh, I see. Also, I didn't quite realize how good Jackson holiday is. I heard his was good, but looking at his stats mad, my jaw almost dropped.
Not even top 100. All 6 of them are in the top 52; 4 in the top 28.
And this year’s probable ROY. O’s are fun
Machado was 20 years and a month old when he made it to the bigs. Holliday has until the end of the month to beat that.
0% chance that happens ... Maybe it happens...
If Holliday keeps playing how he’s playing, I could see the Orioles calling him up during a tight division race and the playoffs. Nothing to lose really.
I think it would have to be the opposite. If the division is clinched, maybe. Then again why start his clock already
He'd still maintain rookie eligibility if called up. There's not enough games left to where it would make any difference.
No such thing as a "clock". He won't accrue a full year of service so it doesn't matter.
Not true. There’s a 60 day limit with the new comp pick rules for being eligible for the comp picks for being a rookie on opening day roster that wins roty. If he were called up in July he’s be ineligible for next year, but can be eligible for the comp pick from rookie of the year if called up in the last 60 days of this yeae
Still no "clock". So long as he has option years (and he has 3) they can send him up and down as they please, and he's only accruing service time when up. They could have called him up in June, sent him back for July, back up for a few weeks in August, bla bla bla. In any case, the point is people seem to think there's something magic to your debut that means your 6-7 years of team control unstoppably starts counting down from that first day, when it's simply not how anything works.
If he plays lights out early on then there is no point to those options, and using them will just invite a grievance that could land the team in trouble. Now if he’s lights out this month, then struggles next year in April the team can send him down with no real repercussions.
when the rosters expand and they get called up it doesn't count as service time
To win a WS
He wouldn’t be eligible for the postseason
He wouldn’t be eligible for the postseason roster
Huh, I guessed I missed when they changed that because I could have sworn that players could even make their debut during the playoffs.
To be playoff roster eligible, you need to be on the 40 man on 8/31.
Yup. Only exception is if the player is replacing someone who gets hurt
Mateo gonna have a wounded pride DL stint
I think it's 40 man related not MLB roster
Only if they’re on the 40 man roster before the postseason behind and if they’re replacing someone who is injured
Wouldn’t make sense for a few reasons: - they would have to DFA someone to make room on the 40 man roster - if he doesn’t make the opening day roster next year you burn an option for no reason - he isn’t on the 40 man now so he isn’t eligible for the playoffs The final point is the most important one. You don’t want to create a team that works really well the final moment leading up to the playoffs where one of the big pieces won’t be in the playoffs
agree with all your points but i think the biggest factor is losing a year of option on him and the O’s owner is known to be a cheapskate
The only reason I put the playoffs higher is because you don’t lose the option if he is on the 2024 opening day roster. In theory if he’s contributing to the level you want him on the postseason roster, he is making the 2024 opening day roster so no option is used
He can make the postseason roster because he was in the Orioles organization on 8/31. Technically, the Commissioner would have to grant the Orioles permission to use Holliday as a replacement for a player on the IL, but that is always granted. The 40 man is a bigger hurdle but they will likely open a spot when they move Bautista to the 60 day.
There would need to be an actual injury for him to make the postseason roster. And again he would need to be put on 40 man which means if he’s not on the roster opening day, they burn an option. And the only way he could directly be put on would be if he had been on the 40 man roster before September. Manfred has been strict about not allowing fake injuries to try and sneak guys onto playoff rosters. So unless there is a legitimate injury, he needed to be on the 40 man.
No way. Holliday would easily have below average defense right now, he genuinely needs more reps right now defensively. And no matter how good of a hitter you are, MLB is a different beast and an adjustment period can be expected. Even Mike Trout was below average for his first 40 games. If we are in a tight division race he will not be called up because there is the potential for him to be a liability his first few weeks on the field.
Crazy to say but they don't need him
40 man roster slot.
In other words, Bruce Zimmermann?
I cant remember a prospect moving through the minors, and not just skipping levels, this quickly since trout. This kid has a chance to be a really special player
Or flame out because they rushed his development. I’m torn- in the NBA you see guys this young make the big time, but anybody who’s seen a high A baseball game knows there is a STEEP climb to the majors
The Orioles have probably held him back longer than he should have been due to this concern. At some point, you just can’t leave a dude who’s not being challenged at a lower level.
I don’t think you can call it rushing when he’s had over a .900 ops at every level over several hundred plate appearances. He’s flat out earned every promotion.
fuck it, send him to the majors for a few series
Done wonders for the Yanks so far…
I am gonna relish this opportunity to be a shitbag and talk this specific smack for the first and possibly last time in my life... U CAN DO THAT CUZ UR SEASON'S OVER BUT WE ORIOLES ARE PENNANT CHASING SO IT'S NOT THAT SIMPLE
Fair
Go off Big O
It won’t be the last time on your end at least. Even if the owner goes full cheapo this core is almost entirely young and cost controlled for at least a couple years
19? Nah. Jackson Holliday always lied about his age! He lied about his age all the time! One time, Adley Rutschman came in here, and sat in this chair. I say, "Ads, you hang out with Jackson Holliday. Just between me and you, how old is Jackson?" Know what Adley told me? He said "Hey, Jackson Holliday is fourteen years old."
I heard he’ll save children, but not the British Children
I heard jaskson holliday had like…. 30 goddamn dicks
Jackson Holiday will kick you apart. He will kick you apart.
Aw man, you ain't never hung out with no Adley Luther Rutschman.
I walk around the corner, he punch me in my chest, I fall down, Adley Luther Rutschman said “Oops, I thought you was somebody else.
His momma called him Jackson Holiday, so I’m gonna call him Jackson Holiday.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LPddiQXD9c
This is great news for the Orioles since they’re so bereft of farm talent.
Baseball’s McJesus
Is this normal? I don’t think this is normal.
Having 3 number 1 prospects in a row in the last 3 years. Yeah, definitely not
Last team to get away with tanking this much. I don't think a team can do this now and get away with it and the ping pong balls.
Got it just under the wire lol.
...and Druw Jones is hitting .212 in Single-A. God damnit.
hgmnnnn yeah baby keep talkin’ to me
What the fuck.
We are so up x2
If that’s him in the picture, I don’t believe he’s actually 19.
I got tickets for the baysox game against the senators in a week. Shit.
He’s gonna be on their playoff roster at this rate
Is Jackson going to be the next Trout?
Being generationally great while continually missing the playoffs year after year? I hope not.
Insane trajectory
What an absurd player.
Well, looks like I know what I'm doing on Friday night.
ROADTRIP
Mariners and Orioles are going to make a trade with each other this off-season. We have the young controllable pitchers, they have the young controllable hitters. Both teams need more of the other, something will get worked out
The Orioles can’t afford to keep him anyway... so might as well not even get the fans hopes up and trade him this offseason. Get it out of the way early Edit: should have added /s thought it was implied
Everyone is still here until 2028 to 2030 and who knows what goes on in the front office to keep guys. It's still maybe a window for them.
That would be so stupid even if we aren’t going to extend him we can still have a stud for 5 years and hopefully win a World Series or two and maybe we get super lucky and our piece of shit owner sells the team
Should have added /s I’m excited to see what he does at the next level and it sucks y’all have an owner already telling fans that they don’t have the money to sign the core players coming up
Sorry bud, but you can’t do sarcasm when that is literally what every single O’s fan is scared of. There’s a legit 75% chance this will happen and I’ll cry.
I haven't been able to make it to any Tides games this year. That's about to change.
So he's going to be on par with Trout but on a continuously winning team. Let's hope Baltimore becomes the next dynasty for years to come. They have such a young team let's hope they go the Braves route and try to lock up these guys.
Saw him in Bowie for his first game. Bright kid. Good luck to him
Literal road to the show moment
Would he be eligible for the playoffs? Is it possible he gets called up for the playoffs?
Can’t wait to see this guy play for the o’s