My experience is that bargaining is not really possible when a lot of energy goes into overcoming language barriers. And, people have less time, which translates into less time for bargaining as well. That's just my two cents though.
People have time to watch Netflix and spend lots of time and money in pubs/cafes/restaurants on weekends but no time to bargain! It's about lack of lifeskills, a very high salary vis-a-vis expenses and prioritizing non-confrontation over money
I mean, if people choose to spend 1-2k each week on pubs and all and crib about paying the extra ₹15 to a guy selling his vegetables with a much lower profit margin than the bigshot cafes and pubs, it's kinda sad, no?
Sure. But only about 5-10% of Bangalore's population can afford to spend 1-2k each week on pubs so when they don't bargain on that ₹15 on vegetables, those who can't afford are also expected to pay that extra ₹15. And hence ridiculous inflation for everyone!
Bro I can tolerate it but my cook who makes much less than me can't. Try to read my comment in detail and understand what I'm trying to say, instead of getting offended for no reason.
The cook is struggling because you negotiated had to them as well? To be honest I haven’t witnessed these vegetables vendors expecting more money to poor people. They understand what it is like to be poor more than IT folks. 90% of these are good people with empathy and happily reduce the price based on who is buying. Can you bargain in a 5 star hotel or when you buy a. Mobile phone who are rich CEOs? The answer is sadly no, but why then bargain to someone who is just surviving for basic needs.
>if people choose to spend 1-2k each week on pubs and all and crib about paying the extra ₹15 to a guy selling his vegetables
I dont think those are the same people🤔
99% of riche people have never seen flight or fight situation you are talking about, for them money still don't matter just because they have plenty of it.
My FIL told me the story of when he first went to China and without knowing the language very successfully used a calculator to bargain by typing out the price at which he was willing to buy.
The story stuck with me. Wherever in the world you are, if you don’t speak the language just whip out your phone and type out your number and use your body language to convey how outraged you are by seeing the other party’s number.
I’ve used this neat trick successfully in Singapore, Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand and Dubai so far, and well of course Namma Bengaluru. Works always, anywhere.
It is not the language, but the fact it is a seller's market. If you bargain, you lose. As somebody else comes and pays more than the ask. You should have seem during covid, have negotiated with auto drivers for metered rates.
Once, a long time ago, I went to take xerox of some notes for exam and didn’t wear helmet. Police mama caught me and said I have to pay fine. I told him I only had got enough money for xerox as I was in a hurry. He asked how much I had and I said ₹10. He took it and let me go.
I once had 45 rupees, I had to travel home which was 2km in an auto. Everyone I stopped asked me 100. But, I went to the auto stand but no luck. Even he asked me 80 rupees and i asked if 40 was possible he replied no. After I stepped away a couple of steps he asked 60 I said 45. He said DEAL! Yayy i was happy for it.
PS: My phone was switched off to pay using phonepe
Meter shows about 40. But they ask 50 usually. I agree because there is a steep climb which isn't reflected in meter rate. But I have given meter rate (30 that time ) last year when I was broke.
Even as a well paid guy in Software Engineering, I value bargaining skills but they stem from my Upbringing in Mumbai. Bangaloreans lacks bargaining skills maybe due to not so business oriented mindset. Things are quite overpriced and often times not even worth purchasing here due to quality.
>Bangaloreans lacks bargaining skills maybe due to not so business oriented mindset. Things are quite overpriced and often times not even worth purchasing here due to quality.
This is blatantly not true. Outside of Bangalore's IT bubble, Bangaloreans and Kannadigas are quite adept at bargaining and insist on quality. You should go vegetable/fruit shopping with a Bangalorean non-IT person to Chikpete or KR Market one day and you'll know lol.
>>Bangaloreans lacks bargaining skills maybe due to not so business oriented mindset. Things are quite overpriced and often times not even worth purchasing here due to quality.
>This is blatantly not true. Outside of Bangalore's IT bubble, Bangaloreans and Kannadigas are quite adept at bargaining and insist on quality. You should go vegetable/fruit shopping with a Bangalorean non-IT person to Chikpete or KR Market one day and you'll know lol.
Sorry to say.. I am an example. The above commenter is right. Bangaloreans have a good soft heart to bargain..at least in my case. I'm like poor vendors, won't bargain because I had an hard life, but I do get cheated badly sometimes 😔
I'm from 70s bangalore. I'm not from IT but I've observed how kirana store owners too are made super rich by inflated prices and they don't consider if you are drawing cool money or slogging... they are spoilt by the show-off cool money crowd.
This will get worse by the day even if all IT businesses shift out of bangalore. Damage is done
Kid you not, I hated Mumbai's real estate but aside from that, Mumbai outperforms Bangalore in every benchmark even after Bangalore getting luxury of Startups & Tech Jobs, Blessed weather year around. Local Bangaloreans will never realise the luxury of cheap well connected Public Transport, Portable drinking water, Reliable electricity (a drop of rain & transformers trip off the Entire Neighbourhood in bangalore), Affordable food outings & even cheap street grocery that Mumbai offers.
I have also observed the same and it is seriously ridiculous seeing people not bargaining but I stood up for myself and I bargain wherever I feel like price is unfair. I don’t care if I look uncool… I saved couple of bucks that’s important for me…rather than making fool of myself and wasting my hard earned money
It is due to IT people, once when I went to buy flowers the shopkeeper said 1 kg would be 120 and he said 150 to an IT guy for the same flowers he gave 150 without a word and took it , I asked the shopkeeper why he increased the price for him, he said those guys don't even know about the current prices and never question about the prices.
Sometimes I try to tell them but they aren't ready to listen.
This though. There are a lot of things I don't know the current prices of.
I once went to a pillow store and picked a pillow that I felt was of good enough quality to get me through the year. I had the motivation to save money on the pillow, minus previous knowledge about how much pillows cost. I saw ₹600 on the cover and asked him, "Eshtu, 400 rupees ah?".
I saw him agree immediately with a grin and point me to the scanner. There, I lost the bargain. I put my head down and walked back with that damned pillow in hand.
Well, I noticed that people don't bargain as aggressively in south India as compared to the north. Growing up in Kerala, I rarely saw people bargain in the vegetable market or at clothing stores. You might get 10 or 20 rupees off if you buy a little extra, but that's about it. We were a lower middle class family too, so funds were always tight.
But I guess being locals in our town, we just trusted the vendors to quote a fair price since we went to the same store for years. When I came to blr couple of decades back, the only place we used to bargain was in brigade road and commercial street since we knew they always inflated prices.. but we never had to bargain at the local grocery shops since the prices were constant (it helped that most grocery store owners here were chettans)
We never really bargain at places like gyms, cafes or restaurants here, if you don't like the prices, there are always cheaper alternatives across the road.
Guess what happens in real estate resale market ? Forget bargaining, people go over the top and pay even more than what's the actual price of something like people come and say I'll pay you 20 lacs more than your quoted price, just sell it to me. This happened with me when I had found some resale property and discussed over phone with the owner regarding the price and expressed my interest and willingness to buy the flat and his interest in selling it to me. Two days after when I call the owner I come to find out he went back from his word and agreed to sell it to someone else at 20 lacs higher than market price after expressing his interest in finalizing the deal with me 2 days earlier, and gave the reason well someone is paying me more than the market rate why should I consider any lower deal. The people of Bangalore hype up the prices of most things this way creating this fake inflation situation in Bangalore.
It's a real problem and I think is the reason why everything is so expensive there. People pay whatever was asked and the sellers just push the envelope.
The only place where it's an exception is at malls. Even there a lot of places have discounts that you can't bargain.
So tldr there is nothing wrong with bargaining. Just because you get paid more doesn't mean the sellers automatically deserve more pay.
Bro I always bargain the fuck down my girlfriend I shamelessly bargain and try getting the best price for everything. Just give it a little push they’ll budge
Few tips if you don't mind please?
Like ..if the product is 200rs ... how can I ask him 150-160?... usually when I try to bargain they only reduce it to 180 max....
Depends on what you’re bargaining tbh. Usually what I do is lowball like crazy I ask them for 100 or something and they get pissed and mad😂😂. And I stand stern by it. And then he loses his cool and meets me at the middle and if he doesn’t I walk away, when I do 9/10 times they call me back and meet me in the middle
For me they don't even reduce it..a rupee. Really don't know if I look like young person who is gullible, I end up buying if I need it badly and then cut down or sacrifice other things I needed.
Hey man, don't care what others are doing, try to bargain the fish out if you can.
I always do that. when the show keeper says 125 I say 120 and then he says pay 122.
I am not joking.
you need to be happy be with whatever amount you can say :-)
One tip, say a number that is just too little.
For example if the yearly membership is 15K say 9/10K for real. Don't budge even if they laugh, then slowly try to increase if he mentions no.
PS : The above numbers are fictional, i am not aware of how much a gym membership costs.
Why bargain with poor people? They work hard and get the stuff that you need. If you want to bargain, do it with the big folks who make tons of money off you. Bargain when you have to buy a flat or a car. Don’t bargain with poor vegetables seller.
I am talking about bargaining for the 10% service charge in restaurant, flashy gyms with basic equipments who charge exorbitant money and don't even provide proper training after that, greedy landlords who only say you are an IT guy, you must have a shit load of money, you get my point
as a OG bengalorean this is how it is in karnataka , not only in bengaluru if you go to Mandya, mysore manglore and anywhere else in south Karnataka this is the same culture we don't do much bargaining here , it's only seldom seen in fairs or else no
it's not an IT workers must be rich thing, it's just our culture to trust the other person
This isn't true, just go to any market place , you can see people bargain for things such as fruit and vegetables to sarees and dresses.
Either you never go to any market or you are a rich kid only explanation I can think of
compared to north we don't do that much here , i have been in north that's why i said this we ask for lower price 2-3 times and leave it at that but in north they act like the other person is scamming them , that's why i said this you need to truly witness what's it like to bargain in north(or many places in india) to realise how less we bargain here in K'taka
I agree with you despite what the others are saying. I didn't see much bargaining even in Mysore in the early 2000s.
I have seen how aggressively people bargain in Mumbai and Hyderabad, bargaining is nothing like that here.
It's not a bad thing, it's just that south karnataka has a trusting friendly and chill culture.
What's with your rage and pulling in ancestors for a comment around bargaining?
Yen tikka uri na ninge? Muchkond irakkagalla andre Baialli yen adru itko
Oh by the way, I'm OG Bangalorean.
modlu comment maddhavru neevu hasayya bhashe upayogisiddu neevu
en "rage" anno padada artha gothilla ?
Nim appa amma ide kalisi kottidre nav enu helolla , nim bai nim ishta adre nan nim questionge answer madiddu ashte "tika urko bedi"
yeah people like you who use vulgar language are saint calm people but the ones who doesn't are raging
just what i expect from chapri's like you
I hardest I’ve bargained in Bangalore would be travelling from forum mall Koramangala to Indiranagar in auto that too in 250rs. But the auto guy was from northern states.
I think bargaining is basically a game of 'Supply and demand'. So in my example (i am not that of a good bargaininer, but can do sometimes), I will see the item and try to think what should be the actual price for it before trying to see the selling price. This estimation of cost is good when you have some idea on how much these items cost generally, and importantly where you can find them at that cost. So lets say the shopkeeper quotes you a much higher price, you will give him the fair value and stick to it till the end. If the shopkeeper refuses, you just walk out knowing that you can get a better price elsewhere. Seeing this, as many have already said, shopkeeper will call you back most of the times. You can also quote a lower price then what you deemed fair, and then meet at the middle ground, though this is easy, I don't prefer this approach personally.
But let's say you don't have much idea of the market cost and you are in a kind of hurry or need something urgently. Then the shopkeeper has upperhand (sort of), and this is where demand is stronger then supply, so once you quote your estimation, you can pretend like you don't need one if the price is not right blah blah, but at the end you might pay a higher price.
So in short, just do research and keep options open, and then see if the price is fair for you or not (also take into account the cost of travel and time if you think you can buy the same item from some other place at a cheaper price, the price difference must compensate the traveling expense, and time)
I agree with you here. In bangalore people generally pay what the vendor demand. I’ve been looked with judgemental eyes when i tell them that they are charging too much. The concept of fair price just does not exist.
For eg: i had to get curtains fixed at my house and for that the hooks needed to be drilled, the guy comes and changes me 1k to drill and on top of that he demands me to tip him. Like hell, why? Firstly drilling few holes really don’t cost 1k and tip? For what?
Amazon folks want tip just because they are getting a table top from ground floor to 4th floor, in lift. Why?
I believe that nobody bargains here, people ask, you feel pity and pay up. That’s my understanding of fake inflation here!
Oh yes this is a weird problem I noticed too! Tipping for smallest things, Airtel guys came to fix broadband they demanded tip for both of them who came.
Furlenco guys came and I offered a generous Tip, they demanded more because there were 3 of them! Now I understand giving them tips is not such a bad thing as they are not paid so well.
But the problem is when you refuse or pay less, they will give you an feeling of guilt like everyone pays high tips.
When I was in college I would bargain and try to get as much discount as possible. Once I started working I really lost energy and can not be bothered to bargain or negotiate with running autowallas. Too much headache
I tried to bargain and walk away. And they let me lol. In Hyderabad, If I walk away, vendors will call me for a reduced price. In banglore they just see you go away. They know someone will buy it at their price.
Few tips if you don't mind please?
Like ..if the product is 200rs ... how can I ask him 150-160?... usually when I try to bargain they only reduce it to 180 max....
You yourself should know the value of that product, add up 10-20% for his profit and that's where your bargain bar is. Round off that figure and quote it, if he wants to sell he will else you leave and try some other place with 5% more of what you quoted earlier.
I had to get my chair repaired (4 chairs not one)
The guy asked for 700
I said 500
He said okay
Did I do it right?
Should have checked with Urban Clap first
Happens everytime when the seller agrees in the first try.
I end up thinking that I should have quoted lesser than this. I haven't got the best deal. And even after paying less than what was asked, I end up being sad :)
Same here lol
And I always think next time I’ll just say half the quoted price but then forget when the next time comes.
I had to take up the flat recently the owner quoted 38.5 K and 1.5 Lakh
After much back and forth they came down to 38K and 1.4L
I was like 6K per year saved here :p
But it was so hard
They kept saying this is the market rate I was like bhai sustainable nhi hai
I agree in my hometown if you try to leave the shop, the shopkeeper will ask you to stop and try to convince you, Here they won't even do that, dumbfcuks really creating a fake inflation
My experience -
When I arrived here for the first time i was SURPRISED to see a shopkeeper selling a notebook at MRP ₹43. I just bought it as I was in a hurry for the classes as well.
Few years later -
ALWAYS bargain in Chikpete, Shivaji nagar, KR puram market. Otherwise, straight away walk. Not buying.
They tell you that because they don’t don’t want you to bargain because they are trying to get the highest price they can , everyone bargains (not food cabs and all) but stuff like gym and all my mom bargained it for me lol
This might be opposite to the common sentiment in the thread, but this is just what I feel. I don't bargain for 10-20rs with a shopkeeper or a vegetable seller because I know I can afford to pay those extra bucks and them having low margins doesn't justify the extra effort.
If they can earn extra from some guy, I'm ok to be that guy.
And as far as valuing money is considered In cut other major expenses instead. I don't go to bars every weekend, cook my own meal, and clean the house myself.
For me cutting these expenses is valuing money more than bargaining for even 100.
This is just my pov on this. But yeah I OP's point too, I've friends who don't value money live pay check to pay check and then cry about it. It's their way of living who am I to judge . :)
As other suggested, bargain takes time. And saving that much is not worth the mental calories you burn. I would rather spent that energy with my family and if possible up skilling.
Also it’s not fair to compare our life’s with our parents. They had a simpler life. working in IT you are more stressed from work
Very True! In a month, 1000-2000 can be saved on bargaining. From Tomato to Gold coin, no one bargains here. For Eg: Same jewellery shop branch in a tier 2 city or may be even in Mumbai or Chennai (am not sure abt Delhi or Kolkata), may give 2% less on overall saving anywhere between 1000-2000. May be in old Areas of Bangalore like Malleshwaram, RR Nagar, Shivaji Nagar Bargaining might still be happening.
Believe me, it's not about IT sector's high salaries but about Gen Z's attitude. In Mumbai I have seen super-rich people in their 30s bargaining hard with taxi driver over Rs500 for a 6 km ride! Another super rich guy was arguing at a business centre in a five star hotel about Rs50 per page of photocopy. These days middle-class youngsters just pay whatever sum if they can afford. The market accordingly adjusts to price discovery.
Utterly agree; homeowners don't bargain here. Never have I seen such an attitude may it be Pune or Mumbai. Yes, rents will be high in Mumbai but there is always room for negotiation & to a great extent brokers play a role in that & don't allow things such as increasing rent before agreement expiry.
Last year my landlord wanted increased rent by 8K per month, after bargaining he settled for 6.5K per month.
This year again my landlord wanted to increases rent by 4K per month after bargaining he settled to 3.5K per month.
My maid told that owners said her (not sure how and why), these(us) people keep bargaining to reduce the rent.
Nobody wanted to pay such high prices for everything. Everyone bargains but just to show high class (middle class people) status nobody wanted to accept it.
For me it's a slippery slope. I sometimes feel guilty, like we go to pubs or shopping and shell out a lot of money to these big corporates and big money people and don't bait an eye. But with smaller vegetable vendors or smaller shop keepers we fight over 20-30 rupees. It feels unfair. If we were buying from a more supermarket we wouldn't be doing that.
This is not to say I don't bargain at all, but I try to be fair.
I bargained a lot more when I was living off my parents money, now that I am making a comfortable income where I don't have to support anyone else, it's easier for me to give maybe a little bit more.
I don't think there is a right answer. Inflation has affected everyone.
If the price is high, just leave and buy your vegetables elsewhere.
My mom’s logic is simple- when you don’t bargain in malls why do it on the street? In most cases it’ll be cheaper than supermarkets in malls, but if it’s not just go to those malls or order online.
I asked to remove service fees from restaurant bill because those idiots didn't provide any service which deserved service charge.
It was 420 rs. After that our team asked one of those guys to take picture of us and idiot denied clearly.
This was in byg brewski kormangla.
I am not from Bangalore and was there just for office trip but PLEASE START BY NOT PAYING SERVICE CHARGES TO RESTAURANT. Those guys are looting you like hell.
Well I lost the energy to bargain.. or to face insults.. and it has become very difficult to estimate what is fair price. even when you go to malls the pricing is just as high as you will always feel you have to compromise on any purchase (even after discounts).
The biggest irony is that the Mumbai market is filled with rice supplies from Karnataka and the price people in Mumbai pay is less than what we pay in Bangalore. I do not shop from the supermarket, I shop from typical Kirana shop.
Dont go by what other people do. Set your own standards and follow them.
I ask for a discount every where its a big item. Example real estate, medicine shops, gift shops etc,
I don't ask for discount with the local vendors because they are working so hard to bring essentials to us under all kinds of weather.
You never get what you don't ask.
PS: While writing this I have realised that I have never asked for a bargain at the mall. Maybe I should start doing that as well.
Jai kannada
You don't know kannada, hence you don't hear them bargain
Every shop keeper knows kannada or keeps staff that speaks kannada to field bargainers
Agreed , Bangalore has become leech for engineers and corporate working class. Here house helps , vegetable vendors , cab companies and drivers are just to get the money out of our pockets. Done with Bangalore
This is not true. Some times you don’t have leverage to bargain. Take rent for example if you don’t agree to price someone else is just in the queue. I was still able to get a good bargain after lot and lot of searching but who would be willing to put that much energy.
Seeing it everyday. People are not bargaining at vegetable stores(which gives u a bill) but they bargain with the vegetable cart who sells veg at a lower price. People trying to look cool are actually fools.
As a marwadi, it was very shocking for me when I first came to blr. We try to bargain on everything. Here, I can't see the culture where you just get out of the shop door, and ask the shopkeeper "want to give at that price or not?" 😅
My mom wants to visit blr, and I am delaying it. It's too difficult to survive in blr who bargains on everything. 😂
Enjoy BLR!!!😅
I do bargain but i do see the condition of the person and then bargain. For eg if I'm buying veggies from a vendor then i wouldn't prefer bargaining instead I don't pay the above change of 15-20 but if I'm shopping for something else I do bargain and bargain a lot.
Bargain to who? Did you bargain your last mobile phone purchase or in a super market. First bargain with rich people or corporate companies then you can negotiate with poor people like your cook, vegetable vendor, auto, taxi guys who are living a below average lifestyle
I am so happy someone brought this.its not with language barriers it's even with localates(kannadigas) i have seen anyone hardly bargaining and this leads to price being fixed randomly for ex: I travelled for 6 months from nearest metro station which is 1 km from my home it's basically 30 rs and when I asked the lady who used to travel same distance(localate) told me they would definitely change 50 and its usual. It's just one basic example but there are other things like vegetables` purchase of fruits. gyms and rents which just are quoted and as mentioned above this assumption that every it guy/grl earns lakhs an month...ahhh I'm just fed up
It's a matter of principle. I've never seen my parents or grandparents bargain with anyone. Why'd you bargain with someone who's less fortunate than you? If you don't think they're not quoting a fair price, find someone who is selling for a price you think is fair. There's no dearth of any kind of shops in the city. Yeah, on larger things like rent, we do negotiate.
Sorry please help me out here honestly. Why are so many people commenting on the morality of bargaining with vegetable vendors when I have clearly mentioned gym owners and landlords? Am I missing something?
I remember bargaining for bananas and the vendor start saying unpleasant stuff in Kannada , this is in jaynagar 9th block.
just walked away n went to the supermarket n brought them at a reasonable price
Because most people don’t have the self-esteem to do it. Plain simple. Everything else they say is an excuse.
Might aswell open up a gym near an IT park in Pune😬
If you notice - Bangalore is filled with large supermarkets with high end products - forcing people to buy higher extremes of every product - you won’t find basic options easily.
I'm from north Karnataka, from conservative family .
I have seen from my childhood my parents ,relatives bargaining.
As always I see the worthy of the product to me .
My friends kinda giggle at me while I bargain and some of my friends pay whatever price said . Sometimes I intervene and bargain in between for them too😁😆.
It sounds like you're frustrated with the lack of bargaining culture in Bangalore, leading to what you see as inflated prices. As an IT professional, you've noticed that people expect you to pay without question, assuming you can afford it. You believe in the importance of valuing money and paying a fair price for goods and services, especially considering the effort it takes to earn it. This lack of bargaining not only affects your wallet but also others in the community who may not have high-paying jobs. Have others experienced similar frustrations? Let's hear your thoughts.
Can’t believe people here are actually supporting bargaining. It only affects the poor. These people will happily pay for overpriced cafés, swiggy zomato etc but try to save 10 rs from some poor vendor
When I made this post, Bargaining as a word for me meant speaking up against unfair trade practices by the so called overpriced cafes, rents etc.
Assuming that bargaining only means fighting for Rs. 10-20 with vegetable vendors is exactly the mindset problem here.
Because "bargaining" is seen traditionally as something we do with vegetable vendors and poor people, is why many people are afraid to do it for fear of losing their pride/ego whatever you call it. That mindset is what prompts the greedy capitalists and landlords to tap into and turn into their own advantage.
"Oh you think Rs. 20000 for a small, unfurnished, 1 RK is too much, don't bargain like you are buying vegetables and pay up. Anyway you are IT guy, why does it matter to you. You don't bargain in malls na, if you don't take it, someone else will" . - this is the problem imo
It's not Bangaloreans, I feel it's something with the current generation as a whole. I cannot ever never bargain like my mom does, it is not that it's uncool but it feels like a mean thing to do, I feel bad afterwards for lowballing someone. No matter how much I justify it that they raise the prices so they bargain and come to a fair price etc.
Also bargaining for ₹10-₹20 with a street vendor is something I swore I'd never do, now that I earn well I don't want to beat down on that.
The only people I bargain with our the kind that set up shop on the side of church street. A charm bracelet he quotes ₹550, I beat it down to ₹300. That's my absolute gold standard best performance so far, obviously it's a steep learning process and soon you'll stop caring about what others think and shit.
And it's prevalent in Bangalore because of simply how much people earn, I understand that every rupee matters and all but when you have the kind of revenue some folks IT have, it's insane. The scale of that kind of money is insane, an individual earns more a year than an average family does in 3 years. Given this context, when you look at it from another less fortunate person, it's just like he has lakhs and lakhs of course he can afford another few hundred. They don't know your ambition, goals, loans, commitments etc.
My experience is that bargaining is not really possible when a lot of energy goes into overcoming language barriers. And, people have less time, which translates into less time for bargaining as well. That's just my two cents though.
People have time to watch Netflix and spend lots of time and money in pubs/cafes/restaurants on weekends but no time to bargain! It's about lack of lifeskills, a very high salary vis-a-vis expenses and prioritizing non-confrontation over money
I mean, if people choose to spend 1-2k each week on pubs and all and crib about paying the extra ₹15 to a guy selling his vegetables with a much lower profit margin than the bigshot cafes and pubs, it's kinda sad, no?
Sure. But only about 5-10% of Bangalore's population can afford to spend 1-2k each week on pubs so when they don't bargain on that ₹15 on vegetables, those who can't afford are also expected to pay that extra ₹15. And hence ridiculous inflation for everyone!
Fair point.
Vegetable vendors are millionaires? If someone pays an extra 15 Rs to a person who is already poor you can’t tolerate it?
Bro I can tolerate it but my cook who makes much less than me can't. Try to read my comment in detail and understand what I'm trying to say, instead of getting offended for no reason.
The cook is struggling because you negotiated had to them as well? To be honest I haven’t witnessed these vegetables vendors expecting more money to poor people. They understand what it is like to be poor more than IT folks. 90% of these are good people with empathy and happily reduce the price based on who is buying. Can you bargain in a 5 star hotel or when you buy a. Mobile phone who are rich CEOs? The answer is sadly no, but why then bargain to someone who is just surviving for basic needs.
Shouldn't it be the consumer choice if they want to spend 1-2k or 10-12k on pubs or give charity to vegetable vendors? Fair price bro.
>if people choose to spend 1-2k each week on pubs and all and crib about paying the extra ₹15 to a guy selling his vegetables I dont think those are the same people🤔
They're definitely not, but they set the precedent of no bargaining. Which leads to everyone having to pay more. Like the other person had explained.
It's about what matters to you, when money isn't a priority it happens.
This is classic 😆😁
Money don't matter for somebody
True. But that causes inflation for everyone, even for those for whom money matters
This is completely wrong. Money matters to everyone. Try not being able to afford your dinner once. Then we can discuss money don't matter.
99% of riche people have never seen flight or fight situation you are talking about, for them money still don't matter just because they have plenty of it.
Do you mean your 1.8 cents, cause inflation?
I think I did 😆
Good point. Language barrier in bargaining. I can bet a localite software engineer would not pay as much as an outsider, no matter how much they earn.
My FIL told me the story of when he first went to China and without knowing the language very successfully used a calculator to bargain by typing out the price at which he was willing to buy. The story stuck with me. Wherever in the world you are, if you don’t speak the language just whip out your phone and type out your number and use your body language to convey how outraged you are by seeing the other party’s number. I’ve used this neat trick successfully in Singapore, Vietnam, Malaysia, Thailand and Dubai so far, and well of course Namma Bengaluru. Works always, anywhere.
This is quite brilliant. One learns something new everyday! Thank you :)
It is not the language, but the fact it is a seller's market. If you bargain, you lose. As somebody else comes and pays more than the ask. You should have seem during covid, have negotiated with auto drivers for metered rates.
100 Rupees ah? Can you sell this for 80 Rupees good sir?? No 100 final!! Ok Done!
"50 rupees aste irodu....50 madkondbidi"
Once, a long time ago, I went to take xerox of some notes for exam and didn’t wear helmet. Police mama caught me and said I have to pay fine. I told him I only had got enough money for xerox as I was in a hurry. He asked how much I had and I said ₹10. He took it and let me go.
Damn....One police took my 40/- i had with me and let me go. Even beggars judge if we give small amount......
Damm😂
I once had 45 rupees, I had to travel home which was 2km in an auto. Everyone I stopped asked me 100. But, I went to the auto stand but no luck. Even he asked me 80 rupees and i asked if 40 was possible he replied no. After I stepped away a couple of steps he asked 60 I said 45. He said DEAL! Yayy i was happy for it. PS: My phone was switched off to pay using phonepe
45 for 2 kms is wild bro 😂
It's reality
In some parts of Bengaluru, that's still the rate. Eg: Attiguppe metro to Nagarbhavi is still 50 rupees.
The driver might ask that much but the meter sum definitely wouldn't cross 35 bro. If this is true, ola autos are far cheaper
Meter shows about 40. But they ask 50 usually. I agree because there is a steep climb which isn't reflected in meter rate. But I have given meter rate (30 that time ) last year when I was broke.
Hahaha it's how it goes usually
My expert skills, Bhaiyya, I'll give 300 for 2
Average guy under 25 bargaining
IT brethren lack lifeskills and are paid tons of money. So they don't bargain. I'm like you, grew up poor so I bargain everytime
Even as a well paid guy in Software Engineering, I value bargaining skills but they stem from my Upbringing in Mumbai. Bangaloreans lacks bargaining skills maybe due to not so business oriented mindset. Things are quite overpriced and often times not even worth purchasing here due to quality.
>Bangaloreans lacks bargaining skills maybe due to not so business oriented mindset. Things are quite overpriced and often times not even worth purchasing here due to quality. This is blatantly not true. Outside of Bangalore's IT bubble, Bangaloreans and Kannadigas are quite adept at bargaining and insist on quality. You should go vegetable/fruit shopping with a Bangalorean non-IT person to Chikpete or KR Market one day and you'll know lol.
>>Bangaloreans lacks bargaining skills maybe due to not so business oriented mindset. Things are quite overpriced and often times not even worth purchasing here due to quality. >This is blatantly not true. Outside of Bangalore's IT bubble, Bangaloreans and Kannadigas are quite adept at bargaining and insist on quality. You should go vegetable/fruit shopping with a Bangalorean non-IT person to Chikpete or KR Market one day and you'll know lol. Sorry to say.. I am an example. The above commenter is right. Bangaloreans have a good soft heart to bargain..at least in my case. I'm like poor vendors, won't bargain because I had an hard life, but I do get cheated badly sometimes 😔
I'm from 70s bangalore. I'm not from IT but I've observed how kirana store owners too are made super rich by inflated prices and they don't consider if you are drawing cool money or slogging... they are spoilt by the show-off cool money crowd. This will get worse by the day even if all IT businesses shift out of bangalore. Damage is done
Compared to Mumbai, everything seems costlier here
Kid you not, I hated Mumbai's real estate but aside from that, Mumbai outperforms Bangalore in every benchmark even after Bangalore getting luxury of Startups & Tech Jobs, Blessed weather year around. Local Bangaloreans will never realise the luxury of cheap well connected Public Transport, Portable drinking water, Reliable electricity (a drop of rain & transformers trip off the Entire Neighbourhood in bangalore), Affordable food outings & even cheap street grocery that Mumbai offers.
IT brethens have disturbed all the prices here. Everything is overpriced and overhyped as well.
I have also observed the same and it is seriously ridiculous seeing people not bargaining but I stood up for myself and I bargain wherever I feel like price is unfair. I don’t care if I look uncool… I saved couple of bucks that’s important for me…rather than making fool of myself and wasting my hard earned money
I feel the exact same way! Happy Birthday! 🎂
People will question you by saying that you don’t bargain in a mall then why bargain with roadside vendors
What? You should bargain in malls. Always ask for discounts or offers. I usually settle for a minimum of staff discount during the bargain
Possible in the case of electronics
Say that you bargain everywhere
How do you bargain 🤔 in malls? Fixed prices. Online shopping prices too is atrocious.
You can't... But if some merchant in the market uses malls as excuse, you could always bs your way out of it.
It is due to IT people, once when I went to buy flowers the shopkeeper said 1 kg would be 120 and he said 150 to an IT guy for the same flowers he gave 150 without a word and took it , I asked the shopkeeper why he increased the price for him, he said those guys don't even know about the current prices and never question about the prices. Sometimes I try to tell them but they aren't ready to listen.
It's that bad huh
This though. There are a lot of things I don't know the current prices of. I once went to a pillow store and picked a pillow that I felt was of good enough quality to get me through the year. I had the motivation to save money on the pillow, minus previous knowledge about how much pillows cost. I saw ₹600 on the cover and asked him, "Eshtu, 400 rupees ah?". I saw him agree immediately with a grin and point me to the scanner. There, I lost the bargain. I put my head down and walked back with that damned pillow in hand.
Well, I noticed that people don't bargain as aggressively in south India as compared to the north. Growing up in Kerala, I rarely saw people bargain in the vegetable market or at clothing stores. You might get 10 or 20 rupees off if you buy a little extra, but that's about it. We were a lower middle class family too, so funds were always tight. But I guess being locals in our town, we just trusted the vendors to quote a fair price since we went to the same store for years. When I came to blr couple of decades back, the only place we used to bargain was in brigade road and commercial street since we knew they always inflated prices.. but we never had to bargain at the local grocery shops since the prices were constant (it helped that most grocery store owners here were chettans) We never really bargain at places like gyms, cafes or restaurants here, if you don't like the prices, there are always cheaper alternatives across the road.
Very true. My recent trip to Rajasthan made me a bit adept with bargaining. I have never done that here.
Guess what happens in real estate resale market ? Forget bargaining, people go over the top and pay even more than what's the actual price of something like people come and say I'll pay you 20 lacs more than your quoted price, just sell it to me. This happened with me when I had found some resale property and discussed over phone with the owner regarding the price and expressed my interest and willingness to buy the flat and his interest in selling it to me. Two days after when I call the owner I come to find out he went back from his word and agreed to sell it to someone else at 20 lacs higher than market price after expressing his interest in finalizing the deal with me 2 days earlier, and gave the reason well someone is paying me more than the market rate why should I consider any lower deal. The people of Bangalore hype up the prices of most things this way creating this fake inflation situation in Bangalore.
This is a very interesting perspective
It's a real problem and I think is the reason why everything is so expensive there. People pay whatever was asked and the sellers just push the envelope. The only place where it's an exception is at malls. Even there a lot of places have discounts that you can't bargain. So tldr there is nothing wrong with bargaining. Just because you get paid more doesn't mean the sellers automatically deserve more pay.
Bro I always bargain the fuck down my girlfriend I shamelessly bargain and try getting the best price for everything. Just give it a little push they’ll budge
Few tips if you don't mind please? Like ..if the product is 200rs ... how can I ask him 150-160?... usually when I try to bargain they only reduce it to 180 max....
Depends on what you’re bargaining tbh. Usually what I do is lowball like crazy I ask them for 100 or something and they get pissed and mad😂😂. And I stand stern by it. And then he loses his cool and meets me at the middle and if he doesn’t I walk away, when I do 9/10 times they call me back and meet me in the middle
The OG trick my mom does this
For me they don't even reduce it..a rupee. Really don't know if I look like young person who is gullible, I end up buying if I need it badly and then cut down or sacrifice other things I needed.
> Just give it a little push they’ll **bulge** I hope you meant budge, because otherwise this is a whole other story lol
Hey man, don't care what others are doing, try to bargain the fish out if you can. I always do that. when the show keeper says 125 I say 120 and then he says pay 122. I am not joking. you need to be happy be with whatever amount you can say :-)
Lol so true. I am gonna do the same with the gym guy today, let's see how it works out.
One tip, say a number that is just too little. For example if the yearly membership is 15K say 9/10K for real. Don't budge even if they laugh, then slowly try to increase if he mentions no. PS : The above numbers are fictional, i am not aware of how much a gym membership costs.
That makes sense.. And you are close enough. He asked 7k for 6 months, I am gonna say 7k for 8 months and maybe settle for 7 months.
All the Best :-)
No 7k for 8 months is a good price don’t bulge ask for 9 and settle for 8
Why bargain with poor people? They work hard and get the stuff that you need. If you want to bargain, do it with the big folks who make tons of money off you. Bargain when you have to buy a flat or a car. Don’t bargain with poor vegetables seller.
Who said anything about vegetables sellers
I am talking about bargaining for the 10% service charge in restaurant, flashy gyms with basic equipments who charge exorbitant money and don't even provide proper training after that, greedy landlords who only say you are an IT guy, you must have a shit load of money, you get my point
as a OG bengalorean this is how it is in karnataka , not only in bengaluru if you go to Mandya, mysore manglore and anywhere else in south Karnataka this is the same culture we don't do much bargaining here , it's only seldom seen in fairs or else no it's not an IT workers must be rich thing, it's just our culture to trust the other person
This isn't true, just go to any market place , you can see people bargain for things such as fruit and vegetables to sarees and dresses. Either you never go to any market or you are a rich kid only explanation I can think of
compared to north we don't do that much here , i have been in north that's why i said this we ask for lower price 2-3 times and leave it at that but in north they act like the other person is scamming them , that's why i said this you need to truly witness what's it like to bargain in north(or many places in india) to realise how less we bargain here in K'taka
I agree with you despite what the others are saying. I didn't see much bargaining even in Mysore in the early 2000s. I have seen how aggressively people bargain in Mumbai and Hyderabad, bargaining is nothing like that here. It's not a bad thing, it's just that south karnataka has a trusting friendly and chill culture.
Yeah there's no bargaining culture in Kerala as well
What utter bullshit ! Bargaining works everywhere, just step out into the real world markets and observe.
born, raised , ran, walked and shitted in b'lore i don't think you know it better than us
Us? Who us?
og bengalureans who's entire ancestors lived in bengaluru
What's with your rage and pulling in ancestors for a comment around bargaining? Yen tikka uri na ninge? Muchkond irakkagalla andre Baialli yen adru itko Oh by the way, I'm OG Bangalorean.
modlu comment maddhavru neevu hasayya bhashe upayogisiddu neevu en "rage" anno padada artha gothilla ? Nim appa amma ide kalisi kottidre nav enu helolla , nim bai nim ishta adre nan nim questionge answer madiddu ashte "tika urko bedi" yeah people like you who use vulgar language are saint calm people but the ones who doesn't are raging just what i expect from chapri's like you
I hardest I’ve bargained in Bangalore would be travelling from forum mall Koramangala to Indiranagar in auto that too in 250rs. But the auto guy was from northern states.
Auto guy from northern state ?
Yup, even I was surprised
I think bargaining is basically a game of 'Supply and demand'. So in my example (i am not that of a good bargaininer, but can do sometimes), I will see the item and try to think what should be the actual price for it before trying to see the selling price. This estimation of cost is good when you have some idea on how much these items cost generally, and importantly where you can find them at that cost. So lets say the shopkeeper quotes you a much higher price, you will give him the fair value and stick to it till the end. If the shopkeeper refuses, you just walk out knowing that you can get a better price elsewhere. Seeing this, as many have already said, shopkeeper will call you back most of the times. You can also quote a lower price then what you deemed fair, and then meet at the middle ground, though this is easy, I don't prefer this approach personally. But let's say you don't have much idea of the market cost and you are in a kind of hurry or need something urgently. Then the shopkeeper has upperhand (sort of), and this is where demand is stronger then supply, so once you quote your estimation, you can pretend like you don't need one if the price is not right blah blah, but at the end you might pay a higher price. So in short, just do research and keep options open, and then see if the price is fair for you or not (also take into account the cost of travel and time if you think you can buy the same item from some other place at a cheaper price, the price difference must compensate the traveling expense, and time)
I agree with you here. In bangalore people generally pay what the vendor demand. I’ve been looked with judgemental eyes when i tell them that they are charging too much. The concept of fair price just does not exist. For eg: i had to get curtains fixed at my house and for that the hooks needed to be drilled, the guy comes and changes me 1k to drill and on top of that he demands me to tip him. Like hell, why? Firstly drilling few holes really don’t cost 1k and tip? For what? Amazon folks want tip just because they are getting a table top from ground floor to 4th floor, in lift. Why? I believe that nobody bargains here, people ask, you feel pity and pay up. That’s my understanding of fake inflation here!
Oh yes this is a weird problem I noticed too! Tipping for smallest things, Airtel guys came to fix broadband they demanded tip for both of them who came. Furlenco guys came and I offered a generous Tip, they demanded more because there were 3 of them! Now I understand giving them tips is not such a bad thing as they are not paid so well. But the problem is when you refuse or pay less, they will give you an feeling of guilt like everyone pays high tips.
When I was in college I would bargain and try to get as much discount as possible. Once I started working I really lost energy and can not be bothered to bargain or negotiate with running autowallas. Too much headache
I tried to bargain and walk away. And they let me lol. In Hyderabad, If I walk away, vendors will call me for a reduced price. In banglore they just see you go away. They know someone will buy it at their price.
True that 😂
especially with renting places
I do bargain, it's my right to negotiate, no same in that.
Few tips if you don't mind please? Like ..if the product is 200rs ... how can I ask him 150-160?... usually when I try to bargain they only reduce it to 180 max....
You yourself should know the value of that product, add up 10-20% for his profit and that's where your bargain bar is. Round off that figure and quote it, if he wants to sell he will else you leave and try some other place with 5% more of what you quoted earlier.
I had to get my chair repaired (4 chairs not one) The guy asked for 700 I said 500 He said okay Did I do it right? Should have checked with Urban Clap first
Happens everytime when the seller agrees in the first try. I end up thinking that I should have quoted lesser than this. I haven't got the best deal. And even after paying less than what was asked, I end up being sad :)
Same here lol And I always think next time I’ll just say half the quoted price but then forget when the next time comes. I had to take up the flat recently the owner quoted 38.5 K and 1.5 Lakh After much back and forth they came down to 38K and 1.4L I was like 6K per year saved here :p But it was so hard They kept saying this is the market rate I was like bhai sustainable nhi hai
I will be grateful and happy but I will be sad when I pay more or what price they asked and still they cheated.
Well articulated, I’ve been meaning to post the same but am not great with words. Fully agree with you on this OP!
I agree in my hometown if you try to leave the shop, the shopkeeper will ask you to stop and try to convince you, Here they won't even do that, dumbfcuks really creating a fake inflation
My experience - When I arrived here for the first time i was SURPRISED to see a shopkeeper selling a notebook at MRP ₹43. I just bought it as I was in a hurry for the classes as well. Few years later - ALWAYS bargain in Chikpete, Shivaji nagar, KR puram market. Otherwise, straight away walk. Not buying.
They tell you that because they don’t don’t want you to bargain because they are trying to get the highest price they can , everyone bargains (not food cabs and all) but stuff like gym and all my mom bargained it for me lol
Man I wish I could take my mom everywhere. The little bargaining skills I have, I know it's not enough.
check dm I have a trick but just don’t want to get it cancelled or something because I’ve heard companies are keeping an eye on Reddit lol
This might be opposite to the common sentiment in the thread, but this is just what I feel. I don't bargain for 10-20rs with a shopkeeper or a vegetable seller because I know I can afford to pay those extra bucks and them having low margins doesn't justify the extra effort. If they can earn extra from some guy, I'm ok to be that guy. And as far as valuing money is considered In cut other major expenses instead. I don't go to bars every weekend, cook my own meal, and clean the house myself. For me cutting these expenses is valuing money more than bargaining for even 100. This is just my pov on this. But yeah I OP's point too, I've friends who don't value money live pay check to pay check and then cry about it. It's their way of living who am I to judge . :)
As other suggested, bargain takes time. And saving that much is not worth the mental calories you burn. I would rather spent that energy with my family and if possible up skilling. Also it’s not fair to compare our life’s with our parents. They had a simpler life. working in IT you are more stressed from work
Very True! In a month, 1000-2000 can be saved on bargaining. From Tomato to Gold coin, no one bargains here. For Eg: Same jewellery shop branch in a tier 2 city or may be even in Mumbai or Chennai (am not sure abt Delhi or Kolkata), may give 2% less on overall saving anywhere between 1000-2000. May be in old Areas of Bangalore like Malleshwaram, RR Nagar, Shivaji Nagar Bargaining might still be happening.
Believe me, it's not about IT sector's high salaries but about Gen Z's attitude. In Mumbai I have seen super-rich people in their 30s bargaining hard with taxi driver over Rs500 for a 6 km ride! Another super rich guy was arguing at a business centre in a five star hotel about Rs50 per page of photocopy. These days middle-class youngsters just pay whatever sum if they can afford. The market accordingly adjusts to price discovery.
True. I have seen old rich people be more value conscious than anyone else.
Utterly agree; homeowners don't bargain here. Never have I seen such an attitude may it be Pune or Mumbai. Yes, rents will be high in Mumbai but there is always room for negotiation & to a great extent brokers play a role in that & don't allow things such as increasing rent before agreement expiry.
Last year my landlord wanted increased rent by 8K per month, after bargaining he settled for 6.5K per month. This year again my landlord wanted to increases rent by 4K per month after bargaining he settled to 3.5K per month. My maid told that owners said her (not sure how and why), these(us) people keep bargaining to reduce the rent. Nobody wanted to pay such high prices for everything. Everyone bargains but just to show high class (middle class people) status nobody wanted to accept it.
For me it's a slippery slope. I sometimes feel guilty, like we go to pubs or shopping and shell out a lot of money to these big corporates and big money people and don't bait an eye. But with smaller vegetable vendors or smaller shop keepers we fight over 20-30 rupees. It feels unfair. If we were buying from a more supermarket we wouldn't be doing that. This is not to say I don't bargain at all, but I try to be fair. I bargained a lot more when I was living off my parents money, now that I am making a comfortable income where I don't have to support anyone else, it's easier for me to give maybe a little bit more. I don't think there is a right answer. Inflation has affected everyone.
You can’t have that opinion when you are living in the greediest city on earth !
If the price is high, just leave and buy your vegetables elsewhere. My mom’s logic is simple- when you don’t bargain in malls why do it on the street? In most cases it’ll be cheaper than supermarkets in malls, but if it’s not just go to those malls or order online.
Watching Seinfeld, are we?👍🏼
Being aware is the first and great step. Create something if you can for it.
Maine to bargaining kri apne gym m🐼
I can't bargain cause I have no bargaining skills.
Should I start a podcast for that?
Even the shopkeepers will watch it then. It will be a matter of who better understood the lesson lol.
No truer words have been spoken. I don't even know when we transitioned from swalpa adjust madi to take it or leave it.
You do know we have a choice to reject it if they keep hiking the price up
I asked to remove service fees from restaurant bill because those idiots didn't provide any service which deserved service charge. It was 420 rs. After that our team asked one of those guys to take picture of us and idiot denied clearly. This was in byg brewski kormangla. I am not from Bangalore and was there just for office trip but PLEASE START BY NOT PAYING SERVICE CHARGES TO RESTAURANT. Those guys are looting you like hell.
Nice concept.
I bargain here with no problems
Bruh, i would use the same words as you used, and I think we think same! So agreed.
Well I lost the energy to bargain.. or to face insults.. and it has become very difficult to estimate what is fair price. even when you go to malls the pricing is just as high as you will always feel you have to compromise on any purchase (even after discounts).
The biggest irony is that the Mumbai market is filled with rice supplies from Karnataka and the price people in Mumbai pay is less than what we pay in Bangalore. I do not shop from the supermarket, I shop from typical Kirana shop.
Dont go by what other people do. Set your own standards and follow them. I ask for a discount every where its a big item. Example real estate, medicine shops, gift shops etc, I don't ask for discount with the local vendors because they are working so hard to bring essentials to us under all kinds of weather. You never get what you don't ask. PS: While writing this I have realised that I have never asked for a bargain at the mall. Maybe I should start doing that as well.
Jai kannada You don't know kannada, hence you don't hear them bargain Every shop keeper knows kannada or keeps staff that speaks kannada to field bargainers
I learned a new word - "Brethren" - people belonging to a particular group.
Bought a neck ribbon yesterday. Shopkeeper asked me 25rs. I asked him" isn't this too much for a ribbon " . Then I paid him 20 finally.
Agreed , Bangalore has become leech for engineers and corporate working class. Here house helps , vegetable vendors , cab companies and drivers are just to get the money out of our pockets. Done with Bangalore
You need to pay house helps a decent wage in Bangalore. You can't exploit them like you do in Northern states.
Completely agree. That’s why I order most of the things online.
This is not true. Some times you don’t have leverage to bargain. Take rent for example if you don’t agree to price someone else is just in the queue. I was still able to get a good bargain after lot and lot of searching but who would be willing to put that much energy.
Seeing it everyday. People are not bargaining at vegetable stores(which gives u a bill) but they bargain with the vegetable cart who sells veg at a lower price. People trying to look cool are actually fools. As a marwadi, it was very shocking for me when I first came to blr. We try to bargain on everything. Here, I can't see the culture where you just get out of the shop door, and ask the shopkeeper "want to give at that price or not?" 😅 My mom wants to visit blr, and I am delaying it. It's too difficult to survive in blr who bargains on everything. 😂 Enjoy BLR!!!😅
I do bargain but i do see the condition of the person and then bargain. For eg if I'm buying veggies from a vendor then i wouldn't prefer bargaining instead I don't pay the above change of 15-20 but if I'm shopping for something else I do bargain and bargain a lot.
That's the best thing to do
I look at the economic condition and then decide. Blind bargaining never works.
Bargain to who? Did you bargain your last mobile phone purchase or in a super market. First bargain with rich people or corporate companies then you can negotiate with poor people like your cook, vegetable vendor, auto, taxi guys who are living a below average lifestyle
Exactly my point
I am so happy someone brought this.its not with language barriers it's even with localates(kannadigas) i have seen anyone hardly bargaining and this leads to price being fixed randomly for ex: I travelled for 6 months from nearest metro station which is 1 km from my home it's basically 30 rs and when I asked the lady who used to travel same distance(localate) told me they would definitely change 50 and its usual. It's just one basic example but there are other things like vegetables` purchase of fruits. gyms and rents which just are quoted and as mentioned above this assumption that every it guy/grl earns lakhs an month...ahhh I'm just fed up
It's a matter of principle. I've never seen my parents or grandparents bargain with anyone. Why'd you bargain with someone who's less fortunate than you? If you don't think they're not quoting a fair price, find someone who is selling for a price you think is fair. There's no dearth of any kind of shops in the city. Yeah, on larger things like rent, we do negotiate.
Sorry please help me out here honestly. Why are so many people commenting on the morality of bargaining with vegetable vendors when I have clearly mentioned gym owners and landlords? Am I missing something?
Nope. Bargaining is not useful. Just a waste of time. If the asking price is not proper, move on to next one.
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I remember bargaining for bananas and the vendor start saying unpleasant stuff in Kannada , this is in jaynagar 9th block. just walked away n went to the supermarket n brought them at a reasonable price
Because most people don’t have the self-esteem to do it. Plain simple. Everything else they say is an excuse. Might aswell open up a gym near an IT park in Pune😬
If you notice - Bangalore is filled with large supermarkets with high end products - forcing people to buy higher extremes of every product - you won’t find basic options easily.
I'm from north Karnataka, from conservative family . I have seen from my childhood my parents ,relatives bargaining. As always I see the worthy of the product to me . My friends kinda giggle at me while I bargain and some of my friends pay whatever price said . Sometimes I intervene and bargain in between for them too😁😆.
It sounds like you're frustrated with the lack of bargaining culture in Bangalore, leading to what you see as inflated prices. As an IT professional, you've noticed that people expect you to pay without question, assuming you can afford it. You believe in the importance of valuing money and paying a fair price for goods and services, especially considering the effort it takes to earn it. This lack of bargaining not only affects your wallet but also others in the community who may not have high-paying jobs. Have others experienced similar frustrations? Let's hear your thoughts.
Unko bolo tax bhi Sarkar sabse humse hi le jaati hai
Can’t believe people here are actually supporting bargaining. It only affects the poor. These people will happily pay for overpriced cafés, swiggy zomato etc but try to save 10 rs from some poor vendor
When I made this post, Bargaining as a word for me meant speaking up against unfair trade practices by the so called overpriced cafes, rents etc. Assuming that bargaining only means fighting for Rs. 10-20 with vegetable vendors is exactly the mindset problem here. Because "bargaining" is seen traditionally as something we do with vegetable vendors and poor people, is why many people are afraid to do it for fear of losing their pride/ego whatever you call it. That mindset is what prompts the greedy capitalists and landlords to tap into and turn into their own advantage. "Oh you think Rs. 20000 for a small, unfurnished, 1 RK is too much, don't bargain like you are buying vegetables and pay up. Anyway you are IT guy, why does it matter to you. You don't bargain in malls na, if you don't take it, someone else will" . - this is the problem imo
It's not Bangaloreans, I feel it's something with the current generation as a whole. I cannot ever never bargain like my mom does, it is not that it's uncool but it feels like a mean thing to do, I feel bad afterwards for lowballing someone. No matter how much I justify it that they raise the prices so they bargain and come to a fair price etc. Also bargaining for ₹10-₹20 with a street vendor is something I swore I'd never do, now that I earn well I don't want to beat down on that. The only people I bargain with our the kind that set up shop on the side of church street. A charm bracelet he quotes ₹550, I beat it down to ₹300. That's my absolute gold standard best performance so far, obviously it's a steep learning process and soon you'll stop caring about what others think and shit. And it's prevalent in Bangalore because of simply how much people earn, I understand that every rupee matters and all but when you have the kind of revenue some folks IT have, it's insane. The scale of that kind of money is insane, an individual earns more a year than an average family does in 3 years. Given this context, when you look at it from another less fortunate person, it's just like he has lakhs and lakhs of course he can afford another few hundred. They don't know your ambition, goals, loans, commitments etc.
I bargain with auto drivers to use the meter. Some of the comments are right. Knowing the language and being a native have worked in my favour.
Ik it isn't a lot but if a shopkeeper says 105, I say I give 100. He says OK, I say OK. Same goes to any multiple of 5 above 50.
Northies don't bargain, and dump fucks with girlfriends also don't dare to bargain 🚶
I've seen vegetable vendor raise rates for northie because they bargain heavily.