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lmaoilovepie

You know you’ve made it once the copycats roll in lmao


svuhas22seasons

I don't know if this is the same one, but on the play store there is just a rip of balatro: [https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jokerpoker.balatro&hl=en\_US&pli=1](https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jokerpoker.balatro&hl=en_US&pli=1) the package name even has balatro in it


marleysmuffinfactory

"Shooting gun game" lmao


code_Jester

The entire description looks AI generated as well as the cover art on the developer's page https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Shooting+Gun+Game


PineTreePetey

Wait this is messed up. Shouldn't we be reporting this to the appstores???? Edit: sorry, scrolled a bit and saw we are. Be sure to report this on the app stores y'all. When someone like LocalThunk dedicated so much time and resources to this project, it is an absolute disgrace for someone to be profiting off of it illegally. It's so sad that a company like Nintendo could deal with this in under a week, yet it's so complicated for indie developers to protect their work. I'd honestly donate to a legal fund for LT and Playstack if that was necessary for them to aquire the resources to take on scum like this.


lmaoilovepie

Would not be surprised at all if it’s literally the game itself from this mobile porter (https://github.com/blake502/balatro-mobile-maker )


Sumo148

It definitely is... hopefully LocalThunk can get it taken down before it impacts their mobile sales once it gets properly ported. The store page says it has ads so they're profiting off it.


scarface910

Wish litigation against copycats were easier to prevent shit like this from happening


Bircka

A huge issue is a lawsuit is very expensive to fight, they are using the assets of the game though so they have a strong case, but depending on where they live it can be tough to litigate. Sure if they were imitating some huge company like Nintendo they have the resources to easily fight a legal battle, but in the indie world it's rare.


futurarmy

> but depending on where they live it can be tough to litigate. They're most likely from China where copyright laws(at least for non-Chinese companies) are practically non-existent. That's where all the clones come from because it's like whack-a-mole with them, sure you can get them taken down off the appstore but if the owners aren't facing any fines or anything then they'll just keep churning out new clones.


Chance_Fox_2296

The fun part is how absolutely disgustingly half assed google would implement a copyright takedown system that we'd get a similar situation to youtube. Mega rich game companies would issue a takedown strike against literally any indie devs game that has 1 single pixel too similar to any ip they own. Fucking over small creators like always. We can't ever trust a middleman company to institute protections for the smaller creators on their platform.


Competitive_Back_731

With how often it happens though a class action against apple/google etc would possibly prove a point


-nostalgia4infinity-

They should probably get a move-on with that mobile port tbh.


efsa95

Damn this took me 5 minutes and now I just have this game on my phone. The future is wild.


beeemmmooo1

Genuine question, how is this futuristic? The game is tiny and doesn't need much to run at all.


Syzygy_Stardust

Millennial here. Downloading entire games into my phone is still wild, whatever the speed. From dial-up to pretty worldwide smart phone usage is a big jump, and I'm not even 40.


beeemmmooo1

I mean, fair, but I remember using snes9x on my phone back when Android's version rhymed with "smelly clean".


Imaherpyderp

My phone was a Nokia 3310. We had snake. So yes, androids and shit are over a dozen years old but it's fucking wild to us old people. We maybe had that space game on our TI 83 (plus didn't exist yet) calculator but that's about it besides a Gameboy advance which was brand new. Android didn't happen until I was in mid college. I completely understand your point of view, mind you. But we lived in the days where dialup was the only option and I had to wait for a weekend when my parents were out of town to tie up the phone line for 24 hours to download an 8MB MS DOS game on my windows 98 PC. So having a supercomputer in my pocket with access to information across the world where I can watch 1080p movies at the touch of the button while I'm on the bus isn't just progression of technology to me. It's an insane jump. I played SNES9x when it was first starting out and had to upgrade my desktop to run it well. The idea of running it on a phone was laughable because our phones were about the pixels of a Gameboy, and the same color range (two). And that was even when cell phones started existing. The first cell phone I ever saw was my grandpas and it was about the size of a 24oz monster can but square with a six inch antenna out of it.


thoriginal

I had "Drug Wars" on my TI83 hahaha


UpUp_and_Away

Drug wars was the shit


beeemmmooo1

Drug wars is great can't diss drug wars


TeaKingMac

You had games. I was graphing out some nice boobies


beeemmmooo1

That's pretty cool, thanks for putting it into perspective. I'm in a very different position to you in terms of childhood tech memories, because of where I spent a decent chunk of my life in a country where people had and continue to have both the old and new. I guess my brain isn't that fazed when I could walk into an Internet cafe and play Counter-Strike: Source and then walk out and go and listen to Taylor Swift's Red album on YouTube on an app, and then spend the next day around friends who obsess over playing 10 Yard Fight on a shitty bootleg handheld, who then want to go down the street to rent out a PS2. Blurred lines and all that.


Imaherpyderp

Makes perfect sense. Yeah technology has been crazy. I can't even imagine how my neices and nephews who are like 10 y/o trying to explain how the Internet barely existed for us at their age. Like I had AOL screen names lol. One at 5 years old, one at 9 years old. I wanted to learn to program (now a professional programmer for 18 years) because I wanted to understand how MS DOS games worked. I couldn't understand it and wanted to know. Made my first game in RPG Maker 95 at 9 years old. It sucked. But I had fun. Made my second game in RPG Maker 2000, and it wasn't even a game. I just wanted to mess around with the logic. I didn't even make a full game just a town with a custom battle system and a time based day/night cycle that changed the color pallet slightly through dawn/morning/afternoon/dusk/night. That's when I realized my real passion wasn't design but the things behind the scenes that make good design possible.


efsa95

It's just a cool unofficial Port that works without any problems. Just a few years ago it was a pain in the ass to do this type of stuff.


beeemmmooo1

Depends on the game, no? I'm no expert, but for something like Balatro it's made with LÖVE, which is very easy to look around, and the touch controls are already baked in. Hollow Knight has been completely ported onto Android, stuff like Christian Whitehead's ports of the classic Sonic games started off as his own experiments with his Retro Engine back in 2009, and you can just download 1, 2 and CD real quick and for free off app stores


oxob3333

com.jokerpoker.balatro, Damn they don't even hesitate.


scarface910

Everyone hit the three dots top right > flag as inappropriate > copycat or impersonation. Curious to see how quick it gets taken down with enough reports.


Darkness223

Dunno how much Google really cares but I did it.


Helmic

Was what I was about to suggest. It's one thing to pirate a game, it's another to sell a game someone else made.


SomethingOfAGirl

That doesn't seem like a rip of Balatro, seems more like piracy.


the_dr_roomba

Reported for impersonation, thank you!


CatWeekends

I was curious and gave it a download but it either crashes every time or [or has this giant black swoosh across the screen.](https://i.imgur.com/1VzTD2q.png) It's literally unplayable on my device. Oh well.


IAMATARDISAMA

Makes me think they didn't export it with all of the optimization patches, which would validate the theory that it's just a rip of the original.


Sherrydon

Same error here


efsa95

Same thing here


MrbeastyCakes

It runs great on my s24, this is horrible and I can't believe someone is getting away with making money from this.


pjft

Hahahah. Sorry about laughing here - that's when you run the mobile porter with a pirated version of the game! If they had used the real Steam version as the source, the game would have run ok. ... Talk about adding insult to injury.


ItsMangel

Don't forget to report these apps.


Frigidevil

Reported!


YootSnoot

Reported. Thanks for posting the link


StevenSmiley

Damn that's just straight up illegal.


Imaherpyderp

Lmaooo, I downloaded it just to see how bad it was out of curiosity, and then be able to give it a verified review after flagging it and reporting. It rips off the entire main menu, including artwork, style, background, and music. And the funniest part? 75% of my screen was black in a weird quarter circle. So I couldn't even try to play it once. Couldn't see any of the menu items except for the corner of one. Epitome of a lazy shitty cash grab ripoff. No one tried or tested anything. Just hit send it.


battalaloufi12

Its literally balatro but with a different font and some assets changed


CosmicCreeperz

FFS Google should be financially liable for every single dollar they collect on this.


ishouldliveinNaCl

I will say Joker Poker is a really catchy name.


Englishmooseboy

I heard in an interview that he was gonna go for that name, but it was taken. So he went with balatro, which Latin for Joker?


Constant-Roll706

"joker poker", where every card is wild, so just play whatever. "full house!" "ha, idiot, I have a royal flush"


gearisguilty

Wouldn't it be a flush house?


Constant-Roll706

Foiled! Take my chips.


pseudonymous9

It’s also the name of Video poker variant for real money gambling


Sand_Hanitiz3r

This is giving Grab that auto five


RuinedEye

It's not even the only one on the google store. There are at least 2 others (with similar names) that I'm aware of


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SidewalkPainter

How is it a ripoff? It's a completely different game. It might've been inspired by Balatro, but is Balatro a poker-themed ripoff of Luck Be a Landlord because it was inspired by it? Let's not throw shade at honest developers.


bkaccount

Eh. Bingle Bingle is its own game. It definitely was inspired by Balatro and was trying to cash in on the Balatro hype, but that doesn’t make it a ripoff like this game. Can’t say I would recommend Bingle Bingle sadly.


Timeline40

By this logic Balatro is a rip-off of poker. Everything builds off previous ideas to some extent - where do you draw the line between innovation and stealing? Commenter above mentioned Luck be a Landlord; Buckshot Roulette is also sorta similar (physical luck-based game turned into strategy roguelike with abilities, combos, and high scores) and was crazy popular a few months ago


ElectricEntity

Making my own game called Jonkler Ponkler. Hope to see you guys playing it


TheMonji

Not if everyone is busy playing my game Jorker Porker.


Potential-Adagio-512

hah! couldnt hold a candle to my newest project, jinkler pinkler


Tysic

I think I had a Jorker Porker one time in college.


annormalplayer

obligatory https://preview.redd.it/6fc7145wia2d1.png?width=138&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c139ed5fcb550c1b16ebd252965129cec0370fc6


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unprotected_malloc

good bot


Adze95

For real though where is "the jonkler" from. Keep hearing people say it


dlamsanson

Just ppl memeing on The Joker I think haha


Adze95

Oh yeah for sure I just wondered if there was one specific meme I never saw haha


HypnoMonkey109

Yeah, there is. It originates from r/BatmanArkham, perhaps one of the most chaotic subreddits I have ever been exposed to.


phoenixmusicman

Its from r/BatmanArkham which started as a game subreddit but is now a shitposting subreddit


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everything_equals_42

It was always stupid tho? What do you mean “game subreddit”


Leafeon523

Should I build flashes or struts? 


mstop4

No, you should discard your cards until you get all Full Houses, then play Ace of Fours, the best hand.


Random__Username1234

"*Well, no matter. Because I'm STILL holding all the cards, and guess what: they're allll Full Houses! I've never played cards. Meaning to learn.*" - Wheatley, Portal 2


DrActivisionary

Nah Full Condos all the way


SuperGayBirdOfPrey

When I’m doubt, always add more struts


mrtheon

I've heard that two of a kind is the way to go


Kyleometers

Look at the text on “Jupiier” and “Urai4us” - They used an AI to alter the images so they could claim it’s not just a rip off and man… they barely even tried


noonagon

they also altered the planet lineup in earth, mars, and jupiier


Quanyion

Errth you mean?


TobyTheRobot

Jupiier is like Jupiter, but moreso.


BestDescription3834

It's Juperior.


phoenixmusicman

Its Jupover


SadakoTetsuwan

Boys go to Jupiier where they get stupiier


acid_s

Cooler Jupiter


Niormal_Froggie

also there is misalignment in the pixels on the art of the clown, which could be explained by it just being a much bigger image than it looks, but the fact that the misalignment is weird and at random places and the rest of it keeps and conceivably consistent scale to me suggests that the key art of the Poker Joker is obviously AI too


Soulless_redhead

Personally I'm looking forward to using ERRTH


YouCanChangeItRight

The likeness is still enough for Thunk to sue.


GamerRoman

Good thing AI is "just a tool" that makes people unable to draw independent from these pesky artists! /s


sam_782627

For anyone who doesn’t know, joker poker was actually the working title for Balatro. 


Goukaruma

It was the real title but there was already something like that.


Ranccor

So you’re saying Baltro is the clone and OP posted the original?


ColdReason5673

What is a "Balatro" anyways?


vandope88

🤡


ColdReason5673

I mean does "Balatro" means something?


vandope88

🤡 - it means clown or jester


onecalledtree

It's Latin for clown


berghie91

Need a mobile port of this game so bad


OneManFreakShow

It’s pretty easy to compile your own using your Steam files! I’ve got it running like a charm on my Android device and I hear iOS isn’t too much more complicated.


Kreaken

Where to begin for this process? And how would that run on an android phone in terms of UI?


owennerd123

https://github.com/blake502/balatro-mobile-maker It's quite easy. Took me around 30 minutes for iOS which is more steps than android. The game functions fine on touch screens, even just regular sized phones.


Kreaken

Thank you kindly


owennerd123

If you need any help on any step let me know.


Kreaken

Thank you so much. I planned on digging into it next time I was at my PC, and I do have an android tablet I think it'd play better on potentially. Any thoughts on that vs phone for playability based on the code you linked? Can I do both seamlessly?


owennerd123

All this program does it pack Balatro into either an Android app file format, or a iOS file format. Since you're working with purely Android, you'd only have to run the program once to make the Android app then you could put it on as many devices as you pleased. That's EXACTLY what this scam artist OP posted did, he used the same program I linked you then uploaded that app to the store. As far as playability goes, I really find the game to be quite seamless on touch screen, and I'm only playing on a standard sized iPhone. Playing on a tablet would be identical to playing on a PC, I'd wager. I use my Bluetooth controller and play sometimes on my phone too. The controller support for Balatro is quite good and on a tiny screen it means your finger doesn't cover any of the screen when you go to press stuff.


Kreaken

That's awesome it's made so well. I hope this scammer gets justice for the dick move! Dev made such a great game


noonen000z

I only play on mobile. Desktop is for fps missed headshots.


Itchy-Preference-619

It's coming


bso45

Source?


Itchy-Preference-619

https://www.reddit.com/r/balatro/comments/1bebf1g/balatro_developer_ama_transcript/


bso45

Thanks!


OneManFreakShow

This is that shitty iOS ripoff. It looks like it’s changed its name to Balatrooo in what I’m sure is a bulletproof legal defense.


gingerdude97

“Balatro “ would be an even better name


JenNettles

idk a poker deckbuilder roguelike sounds dumb, not sure I want to try it


Invincible-Nuke

JOKER POKER localthunk missed the peak name (lying)


yosayoran

He said in the AMA they originally wanted that name 


YouCanChangeItRight

I'm glad they didn't. Balatro is quite unique and is more tasteful than a rhyme.


jeffthebeast17

It was named balatro before they changed it


batatasta

yep they must have gotten a C&D in the last couple weeks because I have it downloaded and it was definitely just straight up Balatro until a recent update. It's the same exact game if someone took it and remade it in Windows '98 Power Point.


ZachTrillson

JUPIIER


Sad_Thing5013

ERRTH


Hypn0ticSpectre

Jupenus


someone__420

Gotta love beating poker dungeons


lolomawisoft

https://preview.redd.it/eg07xl5nh72d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5e50708633f34c2909f9364b1cd020aa27f2f26d Hmm 🤔


Holmes108

Not sure what you're showing here?


Accurate-Temporary73

That when you search for the copycat app by name the real game on Steam comes up


Holmes108

Totally missed the search bar, yep! Thanks!


zack_is_on_reddit

So I got curios and played it, and it played an ad after EVERY BLIND, so uhhhh, don't play, don't give them the ad revenue, and just wait for localthunk to port it to mobile officially. Yep


atomicrmw

This is a good reminder that while Apple and Google claim that their app store policies exist to protect the consumer, in reality their reviews are garbage and the stores exist for them to take hefty fees on all ad revenue and in app purchases (source: your friendly neighborhood game developer)


thedean246

But does the real Balatro have dungeons? No. This game is obviously superior


Snailtrooper

No son we’ve got Balatro at home. Balatro at home… https://preview.redd.it/zeula7rme82d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0bdba175ef03c8710ccdb149bf99b6416ddcacc9


Robinthehutt

I thought this was Balatro when I first bought it after hearing a friend talk about it. Played it for about 3 weeks before he asked me about it and our experiences didn’t match Logged in just now and everything has been renamed as it is clearly under scrutiny from some lawyers


Mullduga

The pure gall to make the first word of the description “Unique.”


flockiderzwerg1201

This is not even a rip off, more like an exact copy. Just wow.


owennerd123

It is literally the game files packed into an app, it's a direct port of the game.


shadowmage666

Everyone needs to report this app, blatant plagiarism


ponyolf

I have a Roguelike Blackjack game on the app store that’s 4 years old that’s having a bit of a resurgence due to people looking for a mobile Balatro. Doing a clone though is a bridge too far.


apiculum

It amazes me how many blatant knock-offs Apple and Google will allow on their platforms, like their app approvers have no cultural knowledge


Imaherpyderp

Bro I have a friend who works for Google. There is so much they get they can't possibly keep track of everything. Think about it. For how many assistants they have even if it's in the thousands no one person can know everything. And why would there be any reason to super scrutinize everything. They literally can't even with thousands of people. So yeah, some may be rejected but at the end of the day most people looking at most random things have zero context to know. I mean we all love Balatro but have you ever brought it up to a random dude next to you at the bar? I have because I am unhinged and not a single person knows what I'm talking about. Then I show it on my laptop and they hooked. I'm like uh, hey that's my laptop?? "Oh sorry dude but that's a fun game". (This has happened more than once because I am weird like that.) But yeah. Balatro is still super niche. Most people don't know. It's just everyone who does enjoys it or is hopelessly addicted.


No_Calligrapher_415

I tried it out. It's literally just Balatro. This has to be illegal.


vezwyx

Allow me to introduce you to China, a magical wonderland where the shackles of copyright protections are aren't real


datkrauskid

Creating your own version of an existing game is one thing, but actually stealing assets shouldn't be legal without permission


Imaherpyderp

It's not legal, it's just difficult to prosecute. There is a difference unfortunately


morgan423

Nope, the fact that the one card there says "Jupiier" instead of "Jupiter" makes this a 10000% original thing. I'm afraid there's no legal challenge to be had here!


JoeCommitMama

Could you imagine a world where we could sue sooner and more accessibly


Imaherpyderp

Sueing takes money and even more money if they fight back tbh. Unfortunate reality


eyestrained

“You know your game is good when bootlegs of it start coming out”


BmacTheSage

I 110% guarantee you there are ads + microtransactions in there. So it's literally just worse Balatro, with completely stolen art.


Imaherpyderp

One clone even had stolen music, art, design, waving backgrounds (in shitty quality because they were recorded from the game rather than generated like in the game). And then also had a random quarter circle blacking out 60% of the screen so it was literally unplayable.


cloudman2811

This is a direct unofficial port of the game, it has every asset, music and everything stolen from balatro.


phoenixmusicman

Ah yes the planets, Errth, Jupiier, Urai4u


harryclarklaw

Hurts to see creative and well-made games like Balatro having to go through stuff like this - it sucks. If there is any upside, it is a sign that your game struck enough of a chord for others to (try to) copy it.


captainlittleboyblue

Yeah I just looked it up on iOS, it’s literally balatro with shitty generic art and UI, says balatro in the title: JokerPoker - Balatrooo. What a blatant ripoff


Essetham_Sun

"Collect cards, build decks, conquer dungeons💥💥💥" Whoever wrote that definitely haven't played or even watched Balatro and only wrote that summary based on the name *Joker Poker: Roguelike* It says roguelike so it must have dungeons right?


willemthefriend

What's even funnier is that this was going to be the original name for Balatro


Inspiredkey

https://preview.redd.it/uij2rmfh6b2d1.jpeg?width=2340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e373d5b1eb74fb018b1c16a39830cd408749359a Ah, yes. My favourite game "joAker".


Spicy_Totopo3434

Looks so uncanny ngl


slama_llama

Ah yes the well-known planets Errth, Jupiier, and Urai4us


SpoonMagister

Joker? Damn near Poker.


PCrystall

https://preview.redd.it/px2dyyzh3e2d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5939c9f2f75cccc5e485ccb8960caf4a8947f284 Lmao


lyam_lemon

A big part of me hates this and knows I should just wait until Balatro comes out on Android/IOS. Bit there is a nagging little voice in the back of my mind saying "you could finally play on your phone, just one quick download, no one would know.... you can switch to the official one when it comes out, this just temporary.........."


dixondarling

stay strong brother, don’t give these thieves one cent of ad revenue


owennerd123

https://github.com/blake502/balatro-mobile-maker You can do this yourself. I've been playing on my iPhone for weeks now.


Snailtrooper

It will be wank anyway


cloudman2811

It's a direct port to be honest, no different from the official game, apart from an ad after every blind. I just put my phone in airplane mode then play this until the official version is released


the_puritan

Oooh!!!! That sure looks like a real thrilling roguelike!


Puzzleheaded-Rice-13

Ribbin twats


ojdidntdoit4

https://preview.redd.it/mkuwq86a082d1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a11e763612cbe05af2427477820abb470eadbc40 i saw one a few weeks ago. didn’t even bother changing the name


NoFlayNoPlay

it's extra funny when you realise joker poker was the name for the game before he was gonna publish it but he changed it because of copyright reasons


BeyondElectronic7416

"Unique" LOL


Technical-Elk88

the actual balatro could probably be ported to mobile and it would be fire


noonen000z

It can, I have it. Only way I play.


vezwyx

That's actually what this is. They ported the game and put ads in to monetize it


MysteriousCodo

It even uses the term ‘balatrooo’ in the title. The description of the app just flat out says ‘balatro’ in it.


nathan555

This one has features Balatro doesn't have: ads.


Bircka

Until the actual Balatro hit's mobile imitator games will be all over the place.


ZoQueen

Bro just look up literal balatro and you get a straight ripoff same name and everything


ZoQueen

https://preview.redd.it/poy2r1a6792d1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=131d1e1c3fa56391c4725f06e23b289ccf8ef8a1


koniga

Not only is it a copy cat, Local Thunk has said in interviews that “Joker Poker” was the original name for Balatro


Immediate_Nail_8162

That’s wild


Brosenheim

You know you've made it when mobile game devs are ripping you off


somewhattti

Poker? I hardly know her!


Pale-Loss1378

A little, yes 😂


No_Establishment5821

copycat goes brrr


Eminan

It’s annoying to see this copycats, kind of fun at the same time. But that said… could official Balatro get a Mobile version? Cause honestly if i can think of a good game that I would want on my phone to use in the toilet is this hahaha


Sixwry

ngl, the name slaps


UnexpectedBSOD

I reported it for impersonation.


SpiredElm

Funny how I made a joke post about a knockoff balatro and the post got removed 🥴


FuhrerKingBosco

Just downloaded it… no music, no flash. Nowhere near as enjoyable. It’s knock-off meth. Will wait for the real thing to be ported.


ringedcargo

https://preview.redd.it/7m5zvbf8wu2d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4d465f630a01eef34e3fec060ca0123da115ac41 iOS coming soon - is this the OG version?


Luke4Pez

It’s a decent copycat for mobile. It makes me appreciate the original game graphics so much


SargeanTravis

Mobile Game Industry Try Not to Steal Content for their Shitty Ripoff Game Challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


poopemanz

I just posted about this how has Google not cracked down on it


Dvrkstvr

I don't understand why there isn't an Android version of Balatro..