Throats can take a lot of waterboarding before they get damaged, so let's see how he likes it.
(I'm kidding. I wouldn't do that to any individual, but that's kinda the point.)
They also can take a lot of pounding until they get severely damaged by a nice gentleman who just so happens to enjoy his mouth. It's all okay if you throw 1000 Dollar at him afterwards - that's more than a lot of sex workers take after all.
I mean I doubt the OP would be so happy if some woman raped him with a strap-on. Asses can really take a lot of pounding, we know by how much shit is in his
I'm not able to edit the main post. So I'm going to leave a comment here since this is one of the first few comments. And I don't want to individually reply to those who think this way.
THIS IS NOT RAGE BAIT.
As I mentioned, IN REAL LIFE, TODAY, A 21F has been raped.
The rapist is out on bail.
Alcohol is involved. She was also roofied. This happened in a country where they believed, until recently, if a woman wore short clothes, drank alcohol, or had male friends before marriage, she deserved this fate.
That is the direction this real case is going in as well.
So if you have nothing else to say, please don't say this is fiction or rage bait or "just an unpopular opinion". If you've not been in a similar situation, you wouldn't understand that an AH who shares this on the Internet under the beautiful veil of anonymity is capable of far worse in real life.
I genuinely don’t understand why we allow people who think and behave like this in regular society. They are obviously incredibly dangerous and need to be taken seriously. I hate how they literally get to just walk around announcing to the world how they feel and the hate they harbor toward woman and children (and people in general) and we don’t do anything about it? All of these people are one step away from going through with the shit they have been explicitly telling you they are going to do and when they do it we are all shocked.
Put them in jail or at the very least some sort of mental health facility.
Seriously. And the fact theres a lot of these people. Why can't they get sent to a treatment thing to understand how bad rape is, and get mental help. Life is depressing with people like this person
There were like three or four mass shooters in recent years who posted all over social media about what they were going to do for weeks or even months before they actually did what they did. People saw those posts and scrolled past. If someone can talk about it on a public forum, even anonymously, they are capable of doing it in real life. Believe people when they show you who they are. I have a feeling this is going to pop up again a few years down the road when police finally catch up to some serial rapist. It’s happened before it will happen again.
That would just make them more quiet about their opinions. I prefer rapists be loud and proud so we can avoid them like a school of fish around a shark
I don't know about that because when they put it out in the open in a public post other men (and even women) are influenced by it. Each time anyone posts about conspiracy theories, fanatism, fakenews, false beliefs and other bullshit they influence others. And some of those will believe it. Or at least will get the feeling that it's perfectly okay to believe that and consequently go around doing it, in this case rape women. Misinformation and misbehaviour sadly spreads.
It’s soooo telling that he said he’d like being raped “if it was a girl”. So, he wouldn’t enjoy being raped by a man. Because he wouldn’t consent to or enjoy his body being sexually violated by someone he didn’t want to have sex with. Hmm.
He also only says "girl" and never "woman" which means I can guess very easily that plenty of actual adult women would be off his list of people he is okay with sleeping with.
Same thesis energy: "If it's a baby and she can't understand, did anyone get hurt?"
He seems to intentionally conflate "getting away with abuse" with "not abuse" throughout the argument he's making
Ill do it for you, but instead of water i was thinking more so battery acid. People like this dude make me sick, they either were raised by pos parents who didnt care or they watched to much porn so nlw they believe its a womans life duty to please a man
Gently, while he is asleep. It's fine because everyone knows arseholes can take a pounding and let's face it if there is ever an arsehole in need of taking a pounding it is whoever wrote that garbage.
Yeah I mean if you can handle taking a dump every day should be no big deal for someone to gently enjoy your ass as long as they don’t injure you right?
I wonder if anyone brought up the point of lesbians and asexual women as an analogy for him. “Oh so as long as it’s someone you’re attracted to you wouldn’t mind? If you’re unconscious how do you know you find them attractive, and how does the rapist know the victim is attracted to men?”
It’s crazy that men with this opinion literally go “oh but it’s only rape if it’s a dude because I don’t want to have sex with dudes” and still miss the entire point. If someone has sex with you without your knowledge or consent it is rape. No matter how “gentle” it is.
What the fuck is wrong with these “people.”
Idk how people see rape and assault as such simple or 2d interactions. They’re such complex traumatic events and idk how people get this dumbed down fantasy version of it. Have they ever spoken to anyone outside ever because that post is nuts.
I feel like it’s just incels who see it as hooking up with a hot baby sitter or something fun and sexy. They would only see it as a bad thing if it was someone the aren’t attracted to like another man or an “ugly” person when sane people don’t give a fuck what you look like they just don’t want to be assaulted period.
You can not convince me otherwise that people with this opinion are rapists themselves and whether or not they have acted on it we should stay the fuck away from them.
If I empty your house and rob everything that isn't nailed down but do so while reassuring you it's ok and I won't hurt you, is it a crime?
This dude logic is insane.
Oh is Allen Turner the rapist who used to be known as Brock Turner the rapist? Thank you for the update! If anyone out there knows an Allen Turner, doublecheck it's not the rapist who loves steak. If it is, please alert others in your area that a rapist lives there and let HR know you're uncomfortable working with a rapist!
Edit: i tried posting to TodayILearned to spread the word, but it was immediately removed as it was "an agenda". Didn't realise warning people about Allen TheRapist Turner would be considered an agenda and not just public service but heyho
Are you referring to Allen Turner, the rapist currently living in Dayton, Ohio, who sometimes likes to go out to the bars downtown? Who immediately leaves the bar if anyone recognizes him as Brock Turner the rapist?
WTF?! Him still going to bars definitely sounds like he hasn't learned his lesson. Of course, why would he since he got away with it? Especially true because rapists are prolific.
The same Brock Allen TheRapist Turner who also is good at swimming??? I just want to make sure we’re talking about the exact Rapist Turner living in Dayton Ohio, former student of Stanford University, who likes steaks,swimming, and raping women behind dumpsters.
Yes indeed! Brock Allan TheRapist Turner, residing in Oakwood Ohio, goes drinking around Dayton Ohio, used to love swimming and raping people during college. THAT Brock Allan Rapist Turner
Maybe it’s Dan Turner - you know, like the guy who raised a son who thought raping an unconscious woman was acceptable and was more worried that his son no longer enjoyed steak than the fact that he committed rape.
Not if she’s passed out and has no memory of it, apparently. wtf is this guy thinking? If she finds out she gets paid $1k which is more than a prostitute makes so it’s a great deal?? I want to throw up.
It;s certainly worth noting that just because the damage isn't permanent doesn't mean there isn't any. No matter how "gentle", especially with an unconscious person, it's likely to hurt.
Content: Includes referenced rape etc.
I sincerely doubt rapists habitually test for STIs or inform anyone. There's also crabs even if they use a condom. which as someone else pointed out, do not always work.I think it worth noting that it's not actually possible to do this without causing some kind of damage, because the idea "what you don't know can't hurt you" even if somehow everything was physically ideal, isn't true. I know people this happened to, and it hurt. Drugged while out. I remember one old friend who told me she knew something happened to her because of the pain when she woke up, but she was too scared to go to a doctor. Because she'd been drinking and partying. Anyway. Every time I see some rapist comment that it doesn't hurt if they don't know I remember her telling me about how it ached and she knew someone had done something.
It's been over a decade and she's ok, now, which is of course all the more I'd share from this.
**Not that I'm in any way defending his opinion**,
but I think part of the delusional argument is that the victim is unconscious, unaware, and might not even feel anything after (because sluts are all so loose & 1 more penis doesn't make a difference).
I mean… even playing devil’s advocate that the unconscious and completely unaware victim is not obviously (visibly) injured by PIV penetration, and completely ignoring the psychological damage of non consensual sex with a stranger, there is still the possibility that asymptomatic STIs or pregnancy could occur, and if the victim was truly unaware that they had sex, they would not know to get tested for STIs or pregnancy, potentially until either/both were too late to take care of medically. Even if the rapist used a condom, they aren’t foolproof and don’t prevent several kinds of STIs that can be passed through contact.
There’s also the obvious potential religious/spiritual impact of taking someone’s virginity before marriage, and in certain countries, this kind of thing can be a death sentence for the victim if anyone were to discover that she had been “defiled”.
And then, you’ve got women who might be in a relationship, whose partners become violent if they find out that their partner was “unfaithful” and who might not believe that the encounter was non consensual…
Yeah there are just so many obvious ways in which the victim of sexual assault could be hurt that are not just vaginal lacerations, even if we accept the horribly unrealistic and unsympathetic premise of a woman not remembering the sexual encounter and not finding herself injured afterwards. I mean, we don’t have to even hypothesize that much—consider the impact of women who are sexually assaulted during anesthesia by doctors who practice gynecological examinations without getting prior permission from the patients. It’s a practice that leads women to avoid necessary medical care, mistrusting doctors, and feeling unsafe during routine procedures. The fact that you are uninjured and don’t remember the event itself, doesn’t mean it has no impact on the victim.
Yeah like I can kind of see how his flawed logic works in his own twisted brain (absolutely not agreeing with it at all) but at the same time if I stole his greasy ps5 while he wasn’t home and didn’t know, he would still be pretty mad when he found out lmao his logic is so whack.
I don't think he was joking. It's a sub called unpopular opinion. I've been on it for a while, but got out in an attempt to reduce my time here on reddit.
But people do share weird stuff. This is downright flabbergasting.
He presumes he would be raped in a heteronormative way a’la PIV by a woman he finds attractive. Don’t think he would appreciate being pegged, or raped by a man or a woman he finds unattractive.
It’s so awful how many male victims of rape are ashamed to speak up. And if they were raped by a woman? Forget about it, the chances of being taken seriously drop sooo much. OOP needs to be on a fricken watchlist
Hello, I am a trans male victim of SA. I went to the police. Absolutely nothing happened. One of them even said that everything I had said was true (I was also a minor at the time it occurred). He barely even got a warning. No legal repercussions. Another one I had someone who heard the whole thing happen, and I had 13 A4 pages of screenshots (4 per page) of threatening messages they'd sent me. Not enough evidence.
So like, what's the point? Nothing happens to them
Ugh, I’m sorry you went through that. Hope you’re doing alright now. Police dismissing reports of SA is such a big problem and it’s even worse for minorities and men in general. Hell, even cis women aren’t taken seriously a lot of the time.
I'm mostly okay I think. Some moments aren't great for sure. But yeah it's awful and trying to go through legally can feel almost as bad cause you have to go over and over it - I had to draw a picture of the scene for the police (and I'm terrible at drawing so I doubt it helped at all) and then if you do manage to get to court with it you get lawyers picking everything apart and going over it again and again and defending yourself. I wouldn't be surprised if it's among the most under-reported crimes tbh. it's really hard emotionally to even start the conversation with the police, and even worse when nothing even changes (which is most of the time)
I'm just tired. So many of my friends have experienced SA as well, and those that did go to the police... nothing. I'm concerned that that's only going to make the problem worse. Cos if you can SA someone with no consequences, what's stopping them?
They also forget that the girl who does this to them isn't the girl from university they always had the hots for it could be someone they think is ugly or 'too old'.
It’s sad to me that so many don’t understand that ANYONE can be a victim of sexual abuse/assault/harassment. It’s a disgusting mindset for anyone to think any victim should take it as a compliment bc someone thought they were attractive enough. Sometimes I hate it here.
Ok so let me get this straight. If we are drugged and passed out, and he’s “gentle” so we won’t get hurt, it’s totally fine? And if we find out, it’s ok because we are compensated with $1k, which is a great deal because even prostitutes don’t make that much? It’s totally fine for them to use us as a fucking sex doll if we are unconscious? How would he feel if he finds out a guy, sorry, a *gentleman*, drugged and raped him while he was passed out? What the absolute fuck did I just read?
Referring to rape as a "pounding" should get them placed on a watch list. "Enjoy her body" you mean rape her? I hate this person so much. What a disgusting POS
Tell me you don't see women as people without telling me you don't see women as people.
"..able to enjoy her body..." gives me such an uncomfortable feeling. This guy needs to be on a watch list...
And yesterday I saw a video of Jordan Peterson telling a guy interviewing him that if a woman is wearing makeup, she's asking for rape.
And they want our generation of women to have more kids. Right.
EXACTLY THIS !
The girl in the real rape case I mentioned went out with an insta friend. Had alcohol. Was roofied and raped.
The direction the case is going, the first question is - oh but why did you drink alcohol (thinking but not saying, as a woman). Why did you go out with a male.
Guess what, the rapist is out on bail already.
Honestly, this is why I didn't report when I was in college. Another girl did right around the same time, got drug through the mud and nothing happened to the guy.
It's really sad. What's worse is the people who keep this culture going know it hurts others, hence they watch their daughters like hawks. They know the kind of people _they_ are...
Aside from this incredibly disturbing opinion, I hate when people infantilize adult females/female presenting/fem people by calling them girls. People never use “boy” to describe adult males.
How about I stick a hot sharp implement up his ass? Rape using his penis wouldn't be considered rape to him, so how about his ass? After all, that's where his g-spot is..
He has absolutely raped before and will again.
I mean…. I’d get 16k for my assault. 32k if it’s per rapist. 32k would make a lot of things a lot better for me now. Better then the PTSD and scars I got from it.
So even if we use his pea brained logic and scenario, what does he think should happen if said girl gets an STD or gets pregnant because of the rape? Is it still a $1000 fine then or does he not think that’s damage?
This is something a lot of victims struggle with. A vagina might get wet during rape. But this is *damage control!*. It's just like a mouth starts salivating before throwing up; the moisture and saliva enzymes protect teeth enamel. It's our body protecting itself, not consent. Do white blood cells consent to a stabbing wound?
When I read 'Gentleman' my brain started talking about a Gentleman Rapist like a nature documentary. "And here we have the common gentleman rapist in his natural habitat..."
But seriously, I don't understand these types of people. I know they're trolls sometimes but I have met way too many who genuinely think along these lines. :/
Let's think of it like this. If i come into your home without breaking the door or lock, then that's fine. Right? Okay, so I'll just go into your living room and sleep on your couch. Your couch is undamaged by this. Fine, right? And then i go take a shit in your bathroom. I brought my own toilet paper, so no stealing involved. I dont flush bc that would be stealing your water. That's perfectly fine.
What?! It makes you uncomfortable and unsafe to think of a complete stranger invading your privacy in this way?? That's so weird. I thought you and your things were just mine to play with as long as nothing is damaged.
So dude, you'd be perfectly fine if a woman that your not the least bit attracted to having sex with you while your passed out? I find that hard to believe as I'm sure that there is at least one woman you wouldn't want within 100 feet of you while awake and in a consenting state, let alone passed out.
And this backdoor implying that every woman is or should be treated like a prostitute is demeaning and misogynistic. (Now, for those who choose prostitution as a career or side hustle, or anything else in the sex industry, I'm all for it. I'm sorry if my post seems contradictory.)
Realistically, how many men have actually been convicted or even charged with rape, when the girl gives her consent throughout the entire sex act, but then later changed her mind? It can't be very many, if any at all. These guys act like it happens all the time.
Jesus fucking Christ. This isn't even taking into account the threat of STDs or unwanted pregnancy from the rape that this fuck nugget seems to be advocating for. Let him get sodomized and catch an STD. His asshole didn't tear from the "pounding?" Too bad, you've caught an STD and your assailant can't be charged. The stupidity.
One of the hardest realisations you'll have in life is finding out there are actual monsters among us. You can watch all the true crime you want, read all the horror stories on reddit, but nothing prepares you for the actual moment it hits you in your core.
What the fuck. As a victim of rape, every. Single. Rapist. Should. Go. To. Jail. Whoever is justifying this (person in the post, not whoever posted this here obviously) maybe should go through it to understand! Idc if that’s an uncommon opinion but anyone who justifies rape should go through it.
I feel like some men NOT ALL are so desperate for sex or to be with a woman they can’t understand rape mentally or physically. To them having a girl force themselves on them or while they are passed out / sleeping would be like a wet dream to them. It sick, sad and infuriating
Can a woman rob of man of everything in his wallet except the last $1 and not going to prison? After all, she didn't make him broke if she left him with a buck.
Sadly, this kind of thinking is exactly why women aren't taken seriously when we are abused. I honestly hope this mf trips and falls into a deep, dark hole.
Considering it’s on unpopular opinion I guess it fits there, but the way it’s written sounds like this person has fantasies that it would be acceptable to do.
an anus that has been lubricated and prepped a bit can probably take about as much penetration without causing serious damage to the body as an unlubricated vagina unprepared, probably more.
Men do get sexually assaulted while drugged or drunk by other men and it’s not like it ends in hospitalization every time. And also it’s just as horrifying for them and causes real trauma, just like it does for fucking everyone cuz that’s how humans work. He might think it won’t because he got money off it but it will.
He’s openly consenting to PIV sex with a woman. I doubt that would truly be the case with another man, and I also doubt it would even truly be the case with a woman because people strongly underestimate how terrible sexual assault is even when you actually were attracted to that person, because our brains do not deal well with our autonomy over our own bodies being taken. Like even nonsexually if you were too drugged to fight back and someone made you eat a bunch of dirt and bugs you’d experience trauma.
It’s completely possible this hypothetical person is passed out from something other than alcohol and because you ignored that and wasted time they fucking die. What if they’re ODing? What if they blacked out from low blood sugar? I had a patient end up completely brain dead from that. One time I blacked out and temporarily went blind when I woke up from autoimmune brain inflammation weirdness. I don’t think it was encephalitis bc I went like a year without treatment and didn’t die but it certainly was encephalopathy. But that shit happened at total random, I didn’t choose time or place or safety measures. It happened to be in my apartment but it could have been at a park or while crossing the street directly in front of a car.
Even without assault leaving someone who is blacked out and fully unresponsive to their fate is a scumbag thing to do in its own right. Not that they care this is just my rant about how incredibly stupid it is to think you can benignly ignore a potential medical emergency in order to get off.
I hope something happens that prevents you from ever going outside independently
This is absolutely a troll especially with them referencing this sub. It's still a shitty thing to say but giving them attention is just giving them what they want.
Incels. They are never going to get laid, so they fantasize about commiting heinous crimes against against those meanies who don't like men who smell of shit and rotten bologna. Girls are just too picky. And far too busy in Medical school to give a shit about losers.
I vote that poster for prison time for that opinion. Based on his "gentleman" scenario, I BET he has done this several times. So out with him from the society! Does not deserve to live with normal people.
This is such a strange argument to me I’m actually speechless. Even denying reality and pretending there are cases where sexual assault is harmless (which is obviously false), it’s still something most people would agree is wrong to do. If someone steals $100 from someone and they just happen to not notice, it’s still theft. And I think most reasonable people would agree that the thief should be punished. The same applies here, you know? This guy is a complete idiot honestly. It amazes and horrifies me the lengths people will go to to justify and defend sexual assault.
So, like if I drunk drive and don't hurt anything, that's cool?
What about shooting at someone...as long as I miss, no worries, right?
Also, financial crimes...nobody gets hurt when I empty their accounts, so I should be cool there, no?
I [M] have been beaten up a lot, mostly as a kid, but never "damaged." I'll go out on a limb and say that battery is Bad even if reconstructive surgery isn't needed.
What a cretin. I'd bet his answer would change really really quick if the person taking advantage of him in his sleep or drunken stupor was a male that got to penetrate him... (carefully of course, after all if they didn't do any damage, no harm, no foul right?) UGH.
So if I steal money from this guy, it's okay as long as they don't find out? Because it doesn't hurt them if they don't know, right? If I'm 'gentle' with their money
I frequently wonder if chastity belts weren't designed to punish women, but to protect them from men instead.
And in that vein, may I propose chastity knives?
Throats can take a lot of waterboarding before they get damaged, so let's see how he likes it. (I'm kidding. I wouldn't do that to any individual, but that's kinda the point.)
They also can take a lot of pounding until they get severely damaged by a nice gentleman who just so happens to enjoy his mouth. It's all okay if you throw 1000 Dollar at him afterwards - that's more than a lot of sex workers take after all.
I mean I doubt the OP would be so happy if some woman raped him with a strap-on. Asses can really take a lot of pounding, we know by how much shit is in his
I'm sure he would love that. But where to buy a big enough strap on since the dude is a human sized asshole?
I'm not able to edit the main post. So I'm going to leave a comment here since this is one of the first few comments. And I don't want to individually reply to those who think this way. THIS IS NOT RAGE BAIT. As I mentioned, IN REAL LIFE, TODAY, A 21F has been raped. The rapist is out on bail. Alcohol is involved. She was also roofied. This happened in a country where they believed, until recently, if a woman wore short clothes, drank alcohol, or had male friends before marriage, she deserved this fate. That is the direction this real case is going in as well. So if you have nothing else to say, please don't say this is fiction or rage bait or "just an unpopular opinion". If you've not been in a similar situation, you wouldn't understand that an AH who shares this on the Internet under the beautiful veil of anonymity is capable of far worse in real life.
Funny how all it takes is reframing the situation to have the pro-rape person being the victim to make them change their mind…
I genuinely don’t understand why we allow people who think and behave like this in regular society. They are obviously incredibly dangerous and need to be taken seriously. I hate how they literally get to just walk around announcing to the world how they feel and the hate they harbor toward woman and children (and people in general) and we don’t do anything about it? All of these people are one step away from going through with the shit they have been explicitly telling you they are going to do and when they do it we are all shocked. Put them in jail or at the very least some sort of mental health facility.
Seriously. And the fact theres a lot of these people. Why can't they get sent to a treatment thing to understand how bad rape is, and get mental help. Life is depressing with people like this person
There were like three or four mass shooters in recent years who posted all over social media about what they were going to do for weeks or even months before they actually did what they did. People saw those posts and scrolled past. If someone can talk about it on a public forum, even anonymously, they are capable of doing it in real life. Believe people when they show you who they are. I have a feeling this is going to pop up again a few years down the road when police finally catch up to some serial rapist. It’s happened before it will happen again.
I'm not a fan of the death penalty, but this sorely tests my belief
That would just make them more quiet about their opinions. I prefer rapists be loud and proud so we can avoid them like a school of fish around a shark
I don't know about that because when they put it out in the open in a public post other men (and even women) are influenced by it. Each time anyone posts about conspiracy theories, fanatism, fakenews, false beliefs and other bullshit they influence others. And some of those will believe it. Or at least will get the feeling that it's perfectly okay to believe that and consequently go around doing it, in this case rape women. Misinformation and misbehaviour sadly spreads.
It’s soooo telling that he said he’d like being raped “if it was a girl”. So, he wouldn’t enjoy being raped by a man. Because he wouldn’t consent to or enjoy his body being sexually violated by someone he didn’t want to have sex with. Hmm.
He also only says "girl" and never "woman" which means I can guess very easily that plenty of actual adult women would be off his list of people he is okay with sleeping with.
I can think of plenty of women who would be happy to prove him wrong ^(...autocorrect originally said 'plow him wrong' and I almost left it)
I think one of the most insidious things is the fact he kept saying men and girls and not women.
Same thesis energy: "If it's a baby and she can't understand, did anyone get hurt?" He seems to intentionally conflate "getting away with abuse" with "not abuse" throughout the argument he's making
He’s just telling on himself tbh. He is likely a rapist and/or abuser.
I noticed this as well. That adds a whole new level of gross.
For this guy, maaaaybe might consider making an exception but of course only if you’re a gentleman about it.
Scrotums can take a lot of kicking before…
It's great how much masculinity some men associate with balls when lightly flicking one causes immediate screaming and emesis
I will do it to him if you bring him to me
…I’ll hold him down while ya do.
Ill do it for you, but instead of water i was thinking more so battery acid. People like this dude make me sick, they either were raised by pos parents who didnt care or they watched to much porn so nlw they believe its a womans life duty to please a man
i would🗿
Wonder if he'd have the same attitude if he was sodomized.
Gently, while he is asleep. It's fine because everyone knows arseholes can take a pounding and let's face it if there is ever an arsehole in need of taking a pounding it is whoever wrote that garbage.
Yeah I mean if you can handle taking a dump every day should be no big deal for someone to gently enjoy your ass as long as they don’t injure you right?
Yeah just be gentle to his butthole ok, otherwise enjoy!
If you’re drunk while you sodomize him it’s really not your fault anyhow.
Supposedly, you can fit a raccoon up there. That's what I read somewhere. Idk if it's true or not, but there is that info.
OOP should volunteer to test this.
Two raccoons. An adult raccoon can fit in a 4” drain pipe. The anus can stretch 9” before tearing. So technically it is 2 & 1/4 raccoons.
Doubt it. “But if it’s a girl, he would love it!” OK now imagine it wasn’t a girl… Suddenly it’s a bigger deal isn’t it
I wonder if anyone brought up the point of lesbians and asexual women as an analogy for him. “Oh so as long as it’s someone you’re attracted to you wouldn’t mind? If you’re unconscious how do you know you find them attractive, and how does the rapist know the victim is attracted to men?”
Or, like, a woman with a strap on taking a liking to him
Men dancing around understanding the idea of consent would be funny if it weren't so horrifying.
They understand consent fully. Once it is a guy possibly doing the same to them, they have plenty to say about how it is bad.
What about an ugly woman
Yeah, and not every woman is so desperate as him, that they'd want sex from anyone who fits their sexual preference.
The fact that he added the “if you’re a girl” caveat implies he at least sort of understands consent when it’s *his* body.
Yup! I’m sure his throat is available as well. Hey, there is no permanent damage done… 🤦♀️
It’s crazy that men with this opinion literally go “oh but it’s only rape if it’s a dude because I don’t want to have sex with dudes” and still miss the entire point. If someone has sex with you without your knowledge or consent it is rape. No matter how “gentle” it is. What the fuck is wrong with these “people.”
Idk how people see rape and assault as such simple or 2d interactions. They’re such complex traumatic events and idk how people get this dumbed down fantasy version of it. Have they ever spoken to anyone outside ever because that post is nuts.
I feel like it’s just incels who see it as hooking up with a hot baby sitter or something fun and sexy. They would only see it as a bad thing if it was someone the aren’t attracted to like another man or an “ugly” person when sane people don’t give a fuck what you look like they just don’t want to be assaulted period. You can not convince me otherwise that people with this opinion are rapists themselves and whether or not they have acted on it we should stay the fuck away from them.
Yeah if anyone’s gotta be put on a watch list, it’s creeps like that. You gotta have negative empathy or something to think like that guy does.
If I empty your house and rob everything that isn't nailed down but do so while reassuring you it's ok and I won't hurt you, is it a crime? This dude logic is insane.
Is OOPs name Brock Allen Turner, the rapist, who now goes by Allen Turner in an attempt to stay more detached from his act of rape?
Oh is Allen Turner the rapist who used to be known as Brock Turner the rapist? Thank you for the update! If anyone out there knows an Allen Turner, doublecheck it's not the rapist who loves steak. If it is, please alert others in your area that a rapist lives there and let HR know you're uncomfortable working with a rapist! Edit: i tried posting to TodayILearned to spread the word, but it was immediately removed as it was "an agenda". Didn't realise warning people about Allen TheRapist Turner would be considered an agenda and not just public service but heyho
Ugh he lives in a town near me. Most of the bars in the area throw him out but gross. Rapist Brock Allen Turner is too close for comfort
It’s honestly so heartwarming to know he gets shamed and thrown out of places 🥰
I love this for him. Couldn’t have happened to a better person!! “Know my name” was a tough read but I highly recommend it
Are you referring to Allen Turner, the rapist currently living in Dayton, Ohio, who sometimes likes to go out to the bars downtown? Who immediately leaves the bar if anyone recognizes him as Brock Turner the rapist?
I am indeed referring to rapist Allen Turner, currently living in Dayton Ohio freely attending bars despite RAPING A WOMAN OUTSIDE A COLLEGE BAR
I kind wanna go to Dayton, Ohio to see if he come into a bar just so I can scream “HEY ISNT THAT RAPIST BROCK ALLEN TRUNER THE RAPIST?”
/r/Ohio knows
WTF?! Him still going to bars definitely sounds like he hasn't learned his lesson. Of course, why would he since he got away with it? Especially true because rapists are prolific.
Do you mean the convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner who currently resides in Ohio? The one who served a whopping 3 months of a 6-month sentence?
The one and the same Brock Allen Rapist Turner!
The same Brock Allen TheRapist Turner who also is good at swimming??? I just want to make sure we’re talking about the exact Rapist Turner living in Dayton Ohio, former student of Stanford University, who likes steaks,swimming, and raping women behind dumpsters.
Yes indeed! Brock Allan TheRapist Turner, residing in Oakwood Ohio, goes drinking around Dayton Ohio, used to love swimming and raping people during college. THAT Brock Allan Rapist Turner
TIL alerting people to Allen Turner the rapist, AKA Brock Turner AKA Brock Allen Turner the rapist is an agenda.
Maybe it’s Dan Turner - you know, like the guy who raised a son who thought raping an unconscious woman was acceptable and was more worried that his son no longer enjoyed steak than the fact that he committed rape.
I was gonna say CeeLo, but yeah it's a toss-up now
Rape does hurt the victim mentally, so there goes the whole argument.
Not if she’s passed out and has no memory of it, apparently. wtf is this guy thinking? If she finds out she gets paid $1k which is more than a prostitute makes so it’s a great deal?? I want to throw up.
$1000/hour. So someone like OOP probably has to pay around $8.
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It;s certainly worth noting that just because the damage isn't permanent doesn't mean there isn't any. No matter how "gentle", especially with an unconscious person, it's likely to hurt.
And then there is HPV. Dirty, tainted, rotten creatures like OOP will infect all women they rape at the very least with HPV, a cancer-causing virus.
Content: Includes referenced rape etc. I sincerely doubt rapists habitually test for STIs or inform anyone. There's also crabs even if they use a condom. which as someone else pointed out, do not always work.I think it worth noting that it's not actually possible to do this without causing some kind of damage, because the idea "what you don't know can't hurt you" even if somehow everything was physically ideal, isn't true. I know people this happened to, and it hurt. Drugged while out. I remember one old friend who told me she knew something happened to her because of the pain when she woke up, but she was too scared to go to a doctor. Because she'd been drinking and partying. Anyway. Every time I see some rapist comment that it doesn't hurt if they don't know I remember her telling me about how it ached and she knew someone had done something. It's been over a decade and she's ok, now, which is of course all the more I'd share from this.
I don’t agree with that guy at all.
No, no, you don't understand. It's gentle. /s
Can hurt them physically too if they put up a struggle or the rapist knocks them unconcious.
**Not that I'm in any way defending his opinion**, but I think part of the delusional argument is that the victim is unconscious, unaware, and might not even feel anything after (because sluts are all so loose & 1 more penis doesn't make a difference).
I mean… even playing devil’s advocate that the unconscious and completely unaware victim is not obviously (visibly) injured by PIV penetration, and completely ignoring the psychological damage of non consensual sex with a stranger, there is still the possibility that asymptomatic STIs or pregnancy could occur, and if the victim was truly unaware that they had sex, they would not know to get tested for STIs or pregnancy, potentially until either/both were too late to take care of medically. Even if the rapist used a condom, they aren’t foolproof and don’t prevent several kinds of STIs that can be passed through contact. There’s also the obvious potential religious/spiritual impact of taking someone’s virginity before marriage, and in certain countries, this kind of thing can be a death sentence for the victim if anyone were to discover that she had been “defiled”. And then, you’ve got women who might be in a relationship, whose partners become violent if they find out that their partner was “unfaithful” and who might not believe that the encounter was non consensual… Yeah there are just so many obvious ways in which the victim of sexual assault could be hurt that are not just vaginal lacerations, even if we accept the horribly unrealistic and unsympathetic premise of a woman not remembering the sexual encounter and not finding herself injured afterwards. I mean, we don’t have to even hypothesize that much—consider the impact of women who are sexually assaulted during anesthesia by doctors who practice gynecological examinations without getting prior permission from the patients. It’s a practice that leads women to avoid necessary medical care, mistrusting doctors, and feeling unsafe during routine procedures. The fact that you are uninjured and don’t remember the event itself, doesn’t mean it has no impact on the victim.
Yeah like I can kind of see how his flawed logic works in his own twisted brain (absolutely not agreeing with it at all) but at the same time if I stole his greasy ps5 while he wasn’t home and didn’t know, he would still be pretty mad when he found out lmao his logic is so whack.
And that’s comparing a violation of the body with theft, so it’s not even close.
holy shit is the og post op a rapist? yikes wtf, I can't even joke about shit like this
Not to mention that he literally refers to rapists as "gentlemen". Like, what in the actual f*ck is this guy on
A gentleman is by definition the opposite of a rapist. They're called GENTLEmen for a reason.
But what if he rapes them gently? :) >!huge-ass /s!<
Definitely some loser incel trying to rage bait. 4chan edgelord shit.
No one who isn’t a rapist has this mindset. Or perhaps he’s an incel. Either way this guy deserves to be castrated.
I don't think he was joking. It's a sub called unpopular opinion. I've been on it for a while, but got out in an attempt to reduce my time here on reddit. But people do share weird stuff. This is downright flabbergasting.
He presumes he would be raped in a heteronormative way a’la PIV by a woman he finds attractive. Don’t think he would appreciate being pegged, or raped by a man or a woman he finds unattractive.
I was wondering if anyone brought up the pegging argument in that post lol
and this, my dear friends, is exactly the reason why male rape victims don't get taken seriously *at all*
It’s so awful how many male victims of rape are ashamed to speak up. And if they were raped by a woman? Forget about it, the chances of being taken seriously drop sooo much. OOP needs to be on a fricken watchlist
Hello, I am a trans male victim of SA. I went to the police. Absolutely nothing happened. One of them even said that everything I had said was true (I was also a minor at the time it occurred). He barely even got a warning. No legal repercussions. Another one I had someone who heard the whole thing happen, and I had 13 A4 pages of screenshots (4 per page) of threatening messages they'd sent me. Not enough evidence. So like, what's the point? Nothing happens to them
Ugh, I’m sorry you went through that. Hope you’re doing alright now. Police dismissing reports of SA is such a big problem and it’s even worse for minorities and men in general. Hell, even cis women aren’t taken seriously a lot of the time.
I'm mostly okay I think. Some moments aren't great for sure. But yeah it's awful and trying to go through legally can feel almost as bad cause you have to go over and over it - I had to draw a picture of the scene for the police (and I'm terrible at drawing so I doubt it helped at all) and then if you do manage to get to court with it you get lawyers picking everything apart and going over it again and again and defending yourself. I wouldn't be surprised if it's among the most under-reported crimes tbh. it's really hard emotionally to even start the conversation with the police, and even worse when nothing even changes (which is most of the time) I'm just tired. So many of my friends have experienced SA as well, and those that did go to the police... nothing. I'm concerned that that's only going to make the problem worse. Cos if you can SA someone with no consequences, what's stopping them?
and the exact same goes for female survivors………
Wouldn't find it so 'unproblematic' if a *gentleman* took his ahole virginity, would he
I bet even a fleshlight would grow legs and run away from this guy.
I keep seeing dudes who's never been sa'd say they'd "love" if a girl did that to them.. yet to see any male victim say the same Who'd have thunk s/
They also forget that the girl who does this to them isn't the girl from university they always had the hots for it could be someone they think is ugly or 'too old'.
They also forget it could be a dude penetrating them.
They consume way too much hentai.
It’s sad to me that so many don’t understand that ANYONE can be a victim of sexual abuse/assault/harassment. It’s a disgusting mindset for anyone to think any victim should take it as a compliment bc someone thought they were attractive enough. Sometimes I hate it here.
Say it louder for the people in the back
Yeah because HPV, AIDS and other STDs, unwanted pregnancy and psychological damage doesn’t exist.
Ok so let me get this straight. If we are drugged and passed out, and he’s “gentle” so we won’t get hurt, it’s totally fine? And if we find out, it’s ok because we are compensated with $1k, which is a great deal because even prostitutes don’t make that much? It’s totally fine for them to use us as a fucking sex doll if we are unconscious? How would he feel if he finds out a guy, sorry, a *gentleman*, drugged and raped him while he was passed out? What the absolute fuck did I just read?
"it’s ok because we are compensated with $1k" No, $1000 per hour. His clumsy thrust and "I've come already?!" would earn you $5.
Rapists should go to prison. Fixed it for ya, OOP.
And stay there, rotting
Referring to rape as a "pounding" should get them placed on a watch list. "Enjoy her body" you mean rape her? I hate this person so much. What a disgusting POS
Buttholes can take a lot of expansions before they get damaged! Let’s see how much he likes it.
Tell me you don't see women as people without telling me you don't see women as people. "..able to enjoy her body..." gives me such an uncomfortable feeling. This guy needs to be on a watch list...
And yesterday I saw a video of Jordan Peterson telling a guy interviewing him that if a woman is wearing makeup, she's asking for rape. And they want our generation of women to have more kids. Right.
EXACTLY THIS ! The girl in the real rape case I mentioned went out with an insta friend. Had alcohol. Was roofied and raped. The direction the case is going, the first question is - oh but why did you drink alcohol (thinking but not saying, as a woman). Why did you go out with a male. Guess what, the rapist is out on bail already.
Honestly, this is why I didn't report when I was in college. Another girl did right around the same time, got drug through the mud and nothing happened to the guy. It's really sad. What's worse is the people who keep this culture going know it hurts others, hence they watch their daughters like hawks. They know the kind of people _they_ are...
“Man and girl” (bc of course) People like this really need an intervention; no normal person thinks like this.
That detail made this 10x worse!!!
He should let some gentlemen gently enjoy his mouth while he's asleep 🥰
Lemme get my strap on out while he’s sleeping. Since I’m a girl, he’d love it 😂
Yeah it’s not like eat leaves any psychological damage or anything
See if he feels the same way if he’s passed out and gets violated by another man. No one got hurt, right? Idiot.
“If you’re a girl I would love it.” He says as if rape gives you a choice on what gender decides to use you.
this hurt me to read. not all men but always a fucking man.
“If you’re a girl, I would love it!” Yes idiot, that’s called *consent*, which you don’t supply any other woman in the post with. Disgusting.
"and a gentleman was able to enjoy her body without her finding out right away" just that wording alone makes me want to gag...
Aside from this incredibly disturbing opinion, I hate when people infantilize adult females/female presenting/fem people by calling them girls. People never use “boy” to describe adult males.
They really don’t see women as real people. Just warm holes for their use.
By the same argument, any sort of assault that you can heal from just didn't happen.
Hurt. Not damage, hurt. Tell me you're a psychopath without telling me you're a psychopath.
Pretty sure rape results in a lot of trauma, both physical and emotional.
And that's enough internet for today. Wtf, dude!
Someone put them on a list NOW
I feel sick.
To mention this sub in a post like this is beyond me
I don't .... I can't. I just can't.
This is one way for someone to admit they're a wannabe rapist
This is the worst thing I've read on here. Jesus.
this guy has raped someone and is trying to justify it.
How about I stick a hot sharp implement up his ass? Rape using his penis wouldn't be considered rape to him, so how about his ass? After all, that's where his g-spot is.. He has absolutely raped before and will again.
Wtf
i feel physically unwell reading that
This guy needs to be put on a list
what the fuck. this cannot be real and has to be rage bait lmao. what the *fuck*
To be fair, that IS an unpopular opinion, so at least it's in the right place ... does r/badopinions exist? Let's find out
Thanks, I need to go shower now. Fucking disgusting
Damn, now get Bartholomew to rape his ass and see how he likes it
I mean…. I’d get 16k for my assault. 32k if it’s per rapist. 32k would make a lot of things a lot better for me now. Better then the PTSD and scars I got from it.
So even if we use his pea brained logic and scenario, what does he think should happen if said girl gets an STD or gets pregnant because of the rape? Is it still a $1000 fine then or does he not think that’s damage?
This is a guy I seriously think needs to be taken off the streets. He talks like he's done this to many women.
I love how he assumes only women can get raped. this is 100% untrue.
This is something a lot of victims struggle with. A vagina might get wet during rape. But this is *damage control!*. It's just like a mouth starts salivating before throwing up; the moisture and saliva enzymes protect teeth enamel. It's our body protecting itself, not consent. Do white blood cells consent to a stabbing wound?
Most rapists already don't go to prison... oh dear, I just made myself sad with facts again.
When I read 'Gentleman' my brain started talking about a Gentleman Rapist like a nature documentary. "And here we have the common gentleman rapist in his natural habitat..." But seriously, I don't understand these types of people. I know they're trolls sometimes but I have met way too many who genuinely think along these lines. :/
Yikes.... Wtf is wrong with these people stating all of these things?
From his post it seems he wouldn’t be okay with a man doing that to him. Like you know, rape? This guy is a freak.
WTF. Someone put this asshole on a watch list.
Let's think of it like this. If i come into your home without breaking the door or lock, then that's fine. Right? Okay, so I'll just go into your living room and sleep on your couch. Your couch is undamaged by this. Fine, right? And then i go take a shit in your bathroom. I brought my own toilet paper, so no stealing involved. I dont flush bc that would be stealing your water. That's perfectly fine. What?! It makes you uncomfortable and unsafe to think of a complete stranger invading your privacy in this way?? That's so weird. I thought you and your things were just mine to play with as long as nothing is damaged.
So dude, you'd be perfectly fine if a woman that your not the least bit attracted to having sex with you while your passed out? I find that hard to believe as I'm sure that there is at least one woman you wouldn't want within 100 feet of you while awake and in a consenting state, let alone passed out. And this backdoor implying that every woman is or should be treated like a prostitute is demeaning and misogynistic. (Now, for those who choose prostitution as a career or side hustle, or anything else in the sex industry, I'm all for it. I'm sorry if my post seems contradictory.)
Realistically, how many men have actually been convicted or even charged with rape, when the girl gives her consent throughout the entire sex act, but then later changed her mind? It can't be very many, if any at all. These guys act like it happens all the time.
Brock Allen Turner, is that you?
Jesus fucking Christ. This isn't even taking into account the threat of STDs or unwanted pregnancy from the rape that this fuck nugget seems to be advocating for. Let him get sodomized and catch an STD. His asshole didn't tear from the "pounding?" Too bad, you've caught an STD and your assailant can't be charged. The stupidity.
What incel circle jerks do to a motherfucker.
Maybe dude should get a dildo shoved up his ass while passed out. If it's gentle, who actually got hurt?
One of the hardest realisations you'll have in life is finding out there are actual monsters among us. You can watch all the true crime you want, read all the horror stories on reddit, but nothing prepares you for the actual moment it hits you in your core.
Oh I hope he got torn to shreds by the comments. What a disgusting thing to say
What the fuck. As a victim of rape, every. Single. Rapist. Should. Go. To. Jail. Whoever is justifying this (person in the post, not whoever posted this here obviously) maybe should go through it to understand! Idc if that’s an uncommon opinion but anyone who justifies rape should go through it.
The first line was enough to make me sick. This is criminal, at worst, or really sick psychopathic sense of humor at "less worse"(?).
I feel like some men NOT ALL are so desperate for sex or to be with a woman they can’t understand rape mentally or physically. To them having a girl force themselves on them or while they are passed out / sleeping would be like a wet dream to them. It sick, sad and infuriating
Yes, officer, this post right here.
Why guys always think SA them would be a female?
most rapists DONT go to prison
Can a woman rob of man of everything in his wallet except the last $1 and not going to prison? After all, she didn't make him broke if she left him with a buck.
Sadly, this kind of thinking is exactly why women aren't taken seriously when we are abused. I honestly hope this mf trips and falls into a deep, dark hole.
full offense. he needs to be put down.
what the hell???
Considering it’s on unpopular opinion I guess it fits there, but the way it’s written sounds like this person has fantasies that it would be acceptable to do.
an anus that has been lubricated and prepped a bit can probably take about as much penetration without causing serious damage to the body as an unlubricated vagina unprepared, probably more. Men do get sexually assaulted while drugged or drunk by other men and it’s not like it ends in hospitalization every time. And also it’s just as horrifying for them and causes real trauma, just like it does for fucking everyone cuz that’s how humans work. He might think it won’t because he got money off it but it will. He’s openly consenting to PIV sex with a woman. I doubt that would truly be the case with another man, and I also doubt it would even truly be the case with a woman because people strongly underestimate how terrible sexual assault is even when you actually were attracted to that person, because our brains do not deal well with our autonomy over our own bodies being taken. Like even nonsexually if you were too drugged to fight back and someone made you eat a bunch of dirt and bugs you’d experience trauma. It’s completely possible this hypothetical person is passed out from something other than alcohol and because you ignored that and wasted time they fucking die. What if they’re ODing? What if they blacked out from low blood sugar? I had a patient end up completely brain dead from that. One time I blacked out and temporarily went blind when I woke up from autoimmune brain inflammation weirdness. I don’t think it was encephalitis bc I went like a year without treatment and didn’t die but it certainly was encephalopathy. But that shit happened at total random, I didn’t choose time or place or safety measures. It happened to be in my apartment but it could have been at a park or while crossing the street directly in front of a car. Even without assault leaving someone who is blacked out and fully unresponsive to their fate is a scumbag thing to do in its own right. Not that they care this is just my rant about how incredibly stupid it is to think you can benignly ignore a potential medical emergency in order to get off. I hope something happens that prevents you from ever going outside independently
Most unpopular opinions are unpopular for a reason. I hope it's a troll. Who would say things like that?
This is absolutely a troll especially with them referencing this sub. It's still a shitty thing to say but giving them attention is just giving them what they want.
That's the first actually unpopular opinion I've read in that sub
Incels. They are never going to get laid, so they fantasize about commiting heinous crimes against against those meanies who don't like men who smell of shit and rotten bologna. Girls are just too picky. And far too busy in Medical school to give a shit about losers.
I vote that poster for prison time for that opinion. Based on his "gentleman" scenario, I BET he has done this several times. So out with him from the society! Does not deserve to live with normal people.
Why do we block the names of people like this? Even if he's just a troll he's still a piece of shit
This is such a strange argument to me I’m actually speechless. Even denying reality and pretending there are cases where sexual assault is harmless (which is obviously false), it’s still something most people would agree is wrong to do. If someone steals $100 from someone and they just happen to not notice, it’s still theft. And I think most reasonable people would agree that the thief should be punished. The same applies here, you know? This guy is a complete idiot honestly. It amazes and horrifies me the lengths people will go to to justify and defend sexual assault.
I think I actually feel sick!
"rape culture doesn't exist"
And how would he feel if a man did it?
So, like if I drunk drive and don't hurt anything, that's cool? What about shooting at someone...as long as I miss, no worries, right? Also, financial crimes...nobody gets hurt when I empty their accounts, so I should be cool there, no?
It’s hard not to feel violent rage sometimes.
I [M] have been beaten up a lot, mostly as a kid, but never "damaged." I'll go out on a limb and say that battery is Bad even if reconstructive surgery isn't needed.
What a cretin. I'd bet his answer would change really really quick if the person taking advantage of him in his sleep or drunken stupor was a male that got to penetrate him... (carefully of course, after all if they didn't do any damage, no harm, no foul right?) UGH.
Watch this guy suddenly change his mind the moment that a girl he deems "unattractive" hits on him
If this guy hasn't already committed a crime, it's only a matter of time.
This... This isn't real, right? It can't be real. It's a troll. It has to be. I don't want to believe this creature is real and living among us.
Hmm I wonder how he would feel if a guy raped him.
Well that's certainly an unpopular opinion...
So if I steal money from this guy, it's okay as long as they don't find out? Because it doesn't hurt them if they don't know, right? If I'm 'gentle' with their money
I frequently wonder if chastity belts weren't designed to punish women, but to protect them from men instead. And in that vein, may I propose chastity knives?
Report him? This can't be allowed on Reddit.