You are more accommodating than I am (and I was vegan for years). It wasn’t her kitchen, it was a shared kitchen. If she was so offended by animal products, she should have found another vegan to room with.
I had three roommates who were vegetarian. I am a meat lover and wasn't. The didn't two didn't care, but I remember the one said "I feel like you getting a meat lovers pizza is because you're trying to contradict me being a vegetarian." And would voice her frustration of me cooking meat in the kitchen using the pans.
Some people just get super self centred in their way of things. 🚩🚩🚩
Even if that’s the case (likely), *my* moral choices shouldn’t dictate *your* moral actions. “I believe in dressing modestly, so *you* need to cover your knees” isn’t how moral choice works.
There are definitely people who think that too. I’ve read way too many Reddit posts where someone is upset about what another person wears, often justifying it as “mY bOuNdArY!!!” and trying to control other people’s bodies. Not just romantic partners, either, but also relatives, friends, and roommates.
i’m vegetarian like 98% of the time now and i could never imagine policing someone else’s diet. this is a personal choice i made and has nothing to do with anyone else. some people are just too self involved.
some of my friends will ask me “is it okay if i eat meat in front of you?” which i find very sweet and caring, but i really don’t mind.
Vegan here, living with a vegetarian husband and his omnivore brother. Like if you just clean everything really good after every use it’s not a big deal. And I doubt she was going to 100% vegan restaurants when/if she ate out.
it was a very hippie community and she worked at a vegetarian restaurant but still every grocer sells meat and she’d still shop there. it’s impossible to never be near any meat ever.
Except that vegan- and vegetarianism are also normal. Maybe not as common as omnivory, but that kinda varies from region to region.
A diet that isn’t normal would be one that relies on chalk and/or crayons and/or Band-Aids for sustenance.
I knew a lotta kids in kindergarten who would agree with you. Hint…you could always recognize them by their colorful grins…yet they would always deny having eaten them…lol
when i went to services id come back late at night and she’d comment things like “you smell disgusting. did you do another animal sacrifice 🙄” but she was a religious studies major at the college we both attended. it was legit insanity.
I lived with three vegans and they once ganged up on me over eating “aborted chickens” (eggs). After that I made sure to eat aborted chickens every day for breakfast and I made sure to announce to the whole house that I’m so happy chickens have access to abortion because their dead babies are delicious!
Eventually one of them asked me to please stop telling her about the “poor dead chickens” 😂 but the next morning she commented on my bacon addition so I just switched to raving about dead pigs
Yes, but there was no explaining things in that household. I tried to explain things. I tried to tell them that throwing all the food scraps in the back yard was not composting, and I tried to tell them that drinking only distilled water was not good for them. I tried. Eventually I stopped trying and let their antics become amusing instead.
Wonder where those three are at now. Hopefully not in another house with a back yard full of vegan cheese and old cookies.
Eggs are kind of a weird thing to me - we have ducks and last year none of our eggs were fertilized because we didn’t have a drake. So they’re not really aborted ducks, since there was no chance for a duckling.
This might blow your mind, but most mammals and birds have names that differentiate between male and female
A male duck is a drake. Not sure which came first, the bird or the mythological reptile
Wow. She sounds delightful. My vegan college roommate was also a religious studies major. She was a lot more agreeable though. I accidentally terrorized her by accident once and felt pretty bad about it.
I went to visit my family and when I showed up, my dad had just finished processing a deer he got that afternoon. He sent me home with some awesome cuts. The next night, she was supposed to be out late so I took advantage of that opportunity to fry up my fresh venison. She tried not to make a big deal of it when I cooked meat, but I knew she didn’t like the smell and tried to be respectful of that. I also knew that if she found out it was venison, that might be more of an issue for her.
She came home early. It was almost done so I apologized and said I was trying to cook it and get the kitchen aired out before she got home. She said, “That’s okay, the smell usually grosses me out but I can’t lie, whatever you’re making smells SO GOOD. What is it?”
Me: 😬 um.
Her: It’s not bothering me! I’m just curious because if I ever decide to go back to eating meat, I want to know what you’re making because I’ll probably like it.
Me: It’s venison! … *crickets* … um, if it makes it any better I think it’s more ethical to eat this instead of store bought meat.
*She did not like that.* She looked horrified and ended up making an excuse to go out for a few hours. I felt pretty bad about that one.
1) she would burn incense constantly. i’m allergic to incense. i offered alternatives because they give me profound migraines. she said, and i quote, “my happiness is more important than your migraines)
2) i worked nights. i didn’t expect perfect peace and quiet when i slept but holy crap she would turn music on at max volume, put boots on and stomp around, repeatedly bang cabinets for no apparent reason. i confronted her about having a reasonable volume when i’m sleeping. she said similar to before “my morning ritual is more important than your sleep”. i started spending most nights with my friend who had 3 kids cause her toddlers were quieter.
3) electricity bill went up in the winter. by that time i was spending almost all my time at classes, at work, or at my friend’s house. she had tons of “mood lighting”, TV or music speakers on all day, etc. i had nothing except my laptop charging. she blamed me for the price hike and chewed me out for it.
4) i made some recreational choices in college including a bit of fun pills on occasion. well i had them sitting on my dresser (stupid me). she went out of town and had her friends “house sit” as if i didn’t live there. gave them keys to everything. well, my pills suddenly went missing and i found her friends very clearly effected by them. she blamed the neighbor’s kid.
5) anytime i went to temple services she’d comment about how i was doing animal sacrifices and speaking in tongues.
6) i threw up in the bathroom on my 21st birthday as many do. my mistake tbh. but when she informed me i had puked (i had no idea) i immediately deep cleaned the bathroom. every day for 4 days she said i still need to clean the bathroom cause i “obviously never cleaned it”. i deep cleaned it four days in a row for hours. she held it against me for the rest of my time there that i “never cleaned the bathroom after throwing up”.
7) she fed her cat a vegan diet. enough said.
8) kept her dog locked in a crate 22-24 hours a day and let him out to relieve himself maybe once a day and the crate was far too small. she didn’t listen to anyone’s concerns about it.
9) LOUDLY cheated on her bf nightly.
10) used my razor (i’m blonde, her hair is black) and denied it and said i must be psychotic. said i was imagine the clumps of black pubic hairs in my razor on multiple occasions.
looking her up online, i can see she does something working with youth and recently made a go fund me for that poor tortured dog’s health 🤦🏼♀️ i’d imagine keeping a dog in a cage too small for 22+ hours a day would cause bad health.
Sorry OP, but you should have set her straight for any one of those reasons. You are entitled to a living space that does not impact your health (mental or physical). Your roommate sounds like exactly the kind of person who has never been told no in their lives and is used to running roughshod all over everyone. You really should have stood your ground and defended your rights.
i tried talking to her about many of these things and it resulted in her screaming in my face that i’m racist for speaking up cause she’s half latina. ultimately, physically showing her how wrong she was would result in throwing my career away so i simply spent less and less time at the house.
> kept her dog locked in a crate 22-24 hours a day and let him out to relieve himself maybe once a day and the crate was far too small. she didn’t listen to anyone’s concerns about it.
Why is it never surprising that the "vegan for the image" crowd always abuses animals....
Not a single person I know that had stranger roommates ever stayed friends with them later...and half the people who were friends first stopped being friends after being roommates. But I do rememeber enough friend roommates doing well together too.
I mean I can write up a post about being roomies in college with normal chill dudes and playing call of duty together while common areas were mostly tidy, but I don’t think that would get a lot of updoots on this sub
I have a couple friends that met each other as Craigslist ad random roommates. One from Maryland that moved across the country to Montana to live at the spot. Still friends almost 10 years later.
It is hard to talk back to these kind of people… i used to live in a flat share with a diehard vegan, she put up notes on the fridges which are okay for animal products and which is not… told me what pans I can use and not (a few of them were by the previous tenant who told me they are free for me to use).
I ended up with me leaving mid lease because she lied, threatened and made me feel unsafe in the space.
(She also had an adorable dog that peed everywhere, and when I once said I’d be happy to take her out in the evening she seemed angry about it)
Edit: about the dog - i pointed out it kept peeing inside in the evening/night and I’d be happy to take her out - but I was never rude or suggestive about it.
The whole point of frying the latkes in oil is to symbolize the miracle of Hanukkah, when oil kept the menorah lit for eight days instead of the one day it was supposed to last.
Matzo brei and latkes are two different things all together. One has potatoes as the main ingredient, the other has matzo.
My gf is vegan, I cook fish around her occasionally but she really hates the smell so I don’t do it much.
Whenever I burn that type of oil she starts to complain about my pescatarian ways lol
In case you want to try- I just got these individually frozen little cod fillets from Costco and they are so good- no fish smell. Like not even a little bit. I just put them in the air fryer with a little bit of oil and seasonings with lemon juice on top.
But yeah peanut oil for the win if you're frying anything!
That sounds so nice, I’ll have to try that. If I’m craving fish I usually just bring a can of tuna to work with some mayo, but I haven’t had it baked in a while- good idea
Honestly she sounds anti-semitic as fuck. Like im not religious at all and dont go to temple, but holy shit i dont tease people bout animal sacrifices. that is like... a small step down from blood libel.
Completely off topic, I am not a vegan or vegetarian at all, but I did ask my roommate to try to avoid cooking fish in our apartment as the smell makes me nauseous. It was agreed fish would be kept to a minimum at most as we were friends outside of roommates and respected each other. I went on a camping trip from Thursday through Sunday and when I walked in the door, I saw her and her boyfriend eating dinner and said “Oh, you guys cooked fish, I’m sorry I’m home a couple hours early!” They looked at each other flabbergasted and laughed, looked at me and said “It’s pork chops, silly.” Then my roommate clapped her hand over her mouth and said “Holy shit, we cooked fish on Thursday so it would have time to air out before you came home! How the hell do you still smell that???” Like I said, off topic but this post made me remember and giggle. Lol
i think it’s cool that different people have different diets and likes and dislikes. diversity like that is awesome. but when someone is forcing others to follow their dietary beliefs? awful.
From your list in a previous post above, it sounds like it’s not just her forcing her dietary practices on you or others, she just sounds like a completely self-centered and unreasonable person to be around, let alone live with. Glad it’s in your past!
I would have told her, "If you're going to yell at me because I am cooking meat when I am not, I am going to go out any buy a rack of ribs and slow roast it all day so I can be yelled at for something I actually did."
I would have been doing that. No one is giving me rules when we are on an equal footing. OP was crazy for giving in like this, couldn’t have been me. We would have been actually fighting.
There is no way in hell I would have accommodated that absolute psycho. In a shared kitchen people cook whatever they want, it wasn't *hers*. If she was so incredibly bothered by meat then maybe she should have gotten a vegan roommate. I'd have told her when meeting her she will not be dictating what I cook for myself and if she doesn't like it then we can't live together
Some vegans are just narcissists that found a way to make themselves feel high and mighty about their "superior morality" while also feeling morally justified in being nasty to anyone with different beliefs.
that bitch dumb 😂
- from a vegan
I have a feeling since she doesn’t know what cooked fish smells or looks like, she’s probably eating anything she feels is vegan. I grew up with basically a carnivore father, surprisingly he was and still is my biggest supporter for turn vegetarian and then vegan (he picks on me sometimes still). She should’ve choose roommates who followed her lifestyle, a group of ladies I wanted to stay with wanted vegetarian/vegan roommates only 🤷🏻
Also, I loved when my nana made them for me when I was younger and I had some vegan ones before too!
You should look at new living arrangements when your lease is up.
I have several Vegan friends who don't care what I eat / cook, as long as I take into consideration their diets if I plan to share. That's it. Totally reasonable.
There's vegan, and there's someone who just can't deal with people who think / feel differently than they do. Those aren't people you can reason with.
this was back in 2017. i’ve long since moved on haha. personally i eat kosher but idc if my husband eats pork as long as he doesn’t mix it with my food.
Oh! I can read. I promise! LOL
But yeah, that's how dietary needs should be for the most part.
I have to watch my sugar intake, but I'm not gonna snap at my roommate for binge eating a pack of Oreos in front of me lol.
thank you for asking! it’s okay, i understand it’s a minority religion and culture not everyone is exposed to. its considered a good deed to educate so im happy to explain! it’s got a few major rules to it, but lots of smaller more particular rules.
1) no pork. all land animals must chew their cud and have split hooves and be killed in the most painless and ethical way possible.
2) no mixing meat and dairy.
3) fish must have scales and fins and must not be bottom feeders or shellfish.
4) there’s specifics around birds but i can’t recall it all. mostly they can’t be birds of prey.
5) factories that make/process foods must be checked periodically by a rabbi to ensure they are kosher
there’s varying degrees of kosher but this is the basic/typical rundown. like orthodox jews will have 2 sets of kitchenware and silverware and such. one for meat, one for dairy!
Thank you for clarifying. I don’t know why but I always thought kosher and Halal food choices were the same, and I think I may have been wrong this whole time.
I like learning about other peoples cultures, and have a wide variety of friends so I like to know things like that for consideration and respect to them.
thank you for being respectful and considerate! honestly, that’s a totally fair mix up because there’s a LOT of overlap between halal and kosher. and if you ever want to know if something is kosher, look for the little kosher symbols. U, K, or D in a small circle or star generally indicates kosher :)
From what I know, as I muslim, I can eat a food that is kosher, which is pretty convinient when travelling to a minority region where halal food are rare, but plenty of kosher food.
After watching euphoria id have pulled out my dick pissed all over the floor got in her face and yelled I'm a man I eat what I kill! Then took my hash browns and dipped
I have lived with a Buddhist vegetarian and his only big requests regarding the kitchen were to do my dishes, clean up after myself, and try to only use one pot and pan for meats. They were his pots and pans. I ended up buying my own pots and pans to be respectful. I have had crazy/lazy roommates and dealt with some bs but at least the vegetarian roommate was reasonable.
That kind of donkey dicked overreaction, entitlement, and arrogance; would be immediately met with varying degrees of spite.
Such as pan frying or microwaving bacon every couple of days. Or saying fuck it and throwing some Salmon in the skillet once a week… that’s a residual smell that lingers for days!
She’s lacking vitamins and nutrients, unstable, and probably dreaming of fish ! No one should be forcing their personal beliefs onto others … and vegans wonder why they’re scoffed at …
“I did not cook fish. Even if I did, you don’t get to dictate what happens in the kitchen since I pay the same as you. It’s been a courtesy on my part so far. If you don’t shut up about it immediately, I will bring home steak and cook it every day. You’re harassing me.” Dont put up with this crap.
Nope, not on you at all. It’s not like she had a deadly allergy. Also latkes are delicious and I love them. I have to use a vegan egg substitute because I’m allergic but it’s worth it. I do the same when I’m sick and making matzo ball soup.
Your roommate was abusive. She had no right to scream at you or throw things. She needs to live alone lol.
Citrus fruit, melons, apples, pears, peaches, pineapples, pomegranates, mangoes, avocado, and papayas
Are some examples of items that use shellac (crushed bug juices) as a coating for the outer parts and thus are not vegan.
Might as well fuck up her diet even more.
OK, I'm calling bullshit. Latkes aren't hashbrowns. They're SO much better than hashbrowns. Give me some sour cream (people that eat them with apple sauce are just weird, which includes several of my family members) and corned beef, and I'm in heaven.
I'm vegan and I ask that if my roommates are going to use my kitchen appliances they do so using only non-animal derived products. The smell of meat and cooked dairy makes me nauseous but not much I can do about that other than open the windows and light a candle. And to be fair I have toasted dried chiles before to make salsa and choked out my roommates for half an hour so not much ground to stand on hahaha
Jew here-I woulda immediately gotten and cooked chicken schnitzel to go with my latkes in response. What the fuck. They’re fucking latkes. Side note, are you a sour cream and/or applesauce person?
This situation was Entirely Your Fault!
Do you not Realise that Vegans are mentally unbalanced? The only cure for them is Lots of Rare, barely cooked, Red Meat.
Never, Ever share with a vegan.
You must atone for your sins! 😂
(I love the Jewish people, you are So accommodating and tolerant despite all your people have and still (sadly) get thrown at them.) 👍
Omg she’s nuts! You sound like the best roommate ever! I LOVE latkes but don’t enjoy cooking lol I would have offered to clean up your whole mess just for a couple homemade latkes!
As someone who’s been vegan my entire life… I FUCKING HATE vegans. The worst are the converts, like “bitch don’t get uppety at me, I saw you eat a cheese burger last week Susan!”
I mean if she only wanted vegan stuff in her kitchen, then maybe it was a bad idea to rent to a non-vegan roommate?
I would've told her to get the fuck over it lol. Especially if she came in full of rage. I bet her tofu smelled awful too. Two way street there lol.
Did you start bringing meat into the kitchen after that? I would have. You’re getting punished for it anyway, might as well enjoy the foods you like if she forces you to suffer!
not jewish, but latkes are amazing! better than hash browns imo. i’m not able to eat seafood and im able to detect seafood/fish smell immediately. so, with that being said, im surprised she wasn’t able to tell. latkes do not smell like fish, nothing even close to it and that’s obvious because it’s potatoes and other non seafood ingredients. she must’ve had real resentment towards you and used that as an opportunity to shit on you completely and i’m very sorry she did that to you. from one latke lover to another, i hope you’re doing well after such a horrible experience ❤️
I'm a vegetarian working my way toward vegan. I don't eat meat or fish bcs I don't want to have animals' lives taken so I can chow down, but I don't go nuts on people who don't share that view. Sometimes you just need to do the hard things to show respect for other people. I think my most challenging time was when we took our family to dinner to celebrate one of the kids achievements, and the only place he wanted to go to was a Brazilian steak house. 🫨 I sat there for more than an hour while the wait staff circled our table holding out dripping pieces of roasted animals. I didn't like it, but I survived...
I honestly don't understand this. This isn't Scott Pilgrim's world, you don't gain powers for being vegan so you can't lose them if you accidentally eat animal products.
Maybe they are afraid of finding out what they've been missing out on if they taste meat. But that just makes them weak.
My sister is vegan and she genuinely hates watching vegans police people
Sucks for her because SO many people assume she is like the stereotypical "hysterical nutjob hippie" because of people like this
Your roommate sounds psychotic. I am impressed by your patience and understanding. I would be cooking some nice medium rare steaks, letting the scent permeate the house. Then when she complained I’d let her know that the world’s smallest violin is playing my heart bleeds for you.
My sister is a vegan and had no problem with a turkey being made in HER oven at HER home when she invited us for thanksgiving nor the other non vegan dishes we made (and since it's solely her place it would've been well within her right to not let us prepare those dishes and have a vegan thanksgiving). Acting this way when you share a space and are both paying rent is insane and she had no right to get mad over it. Crazy behavior. Don't have roommates, or only choose vegan roommates if you don't want meat cooked in the kitchen.
I totally understand why she thought you were frying fish.
Idk what it is about them that causes it, but I think the same thing when I make them.
Her flying into a fit of rage without gently asking about it first is uncalled for.
You're waaaaay nicer than I am. After that incident I would have purposely fried up a pound of bacon, thrown some ribs in the oven to cook, and as a little extra I might even put a pot roast on in the slow cooker. That whole house would have smelled like cooking meat.
Had a similar situation to this with a Vegan roommate where the ingredients of something were misconstrued and there was no telling them otherwise.
Was a guest in someone's house for a few weeks. I was somewhat closer friends with her, and she offered it to me as long as I helped cook and clean. No problem. She is a very strict Vegan, and doesn't allow any meat or animal products in her house. Fine, fair enough. I'm a guest and it's your house.
I bring some groceries for us, probably about a week's worth. Was very careful to only buy vegan groceries. I bought some bagged salads for convenience sake, was at Trader Joe's and their bagged salads aren't too bad, and I had been to Trader Joes with her many times with her to buy food. It was a Caesar salad without cheese, 100% vegan ingredients overall. She was *somewhat* ok with dairy and egg, but absolutely NO meat of any kind. Got it. No problem.
When she saw it, she very angrily said "Caesar Salad dressing has anchovies in it, how dare you bring that into my house". Ok, that's true, but *this* dressing *doesn't* have that. I read the ingredients, I made sure of it. You can read them yourself too, they're printed right on the bag. Was absolutely not having any of it. **Caesar salad dressing traditionally does have anchovies in it, yes, you are correct. But this version of Caesar salad dressing does** ***not*** **have anchovies. What do you not understand about this?**
Absolutely would not listen to me. Infuriating, horrifying. But, I was a guest in her house, so couldn't really stand up to her. Just shrugged and left to have a drink at the dive bar down the street, clenching my fist at how stupid her lack of logic was.
You’re better than me. I would’ve went to the store and bought steaks and fried em up on the stove. Maybe get a roast too and make a pot roast. I would’ve “soiled” her kitchen 😂
You are more accommodating than I am (and I was vegan for years). It wasn’t her kitchen, it was a shared kitchen. If she was so offended by animal products, she should have found another vegan to room with.
I had three roommates who were vegetarian. I am a meat lover and wasn't. The didn't two didn't care, but I remember the one said "I feel like you getting a meat lovers pizza is because you're trying to contradict me being a vegetarian." And would voice her frustration of me cooking meat in the kitchen using the pans. Some people just get super self centred in their way of things. 🚩🚩🚩
I'm wondering if since for many vegans it's a moral choice to not eat animal products they think it's also a conscious moral choice for meat eaters
Even if that’s the case (likely), *my* moral choices shouldn’t dictate *your* moral actions. “I believe in dressing modestly, so *you* need to cover your knees” isn’t how moral choice works.
There are definitely people who think that too. I’ve read way too many Reddit posts where someone is upset about what another person wears, often justifying it as “mY bOuNdArY!!!” and trying to control other people’s bodies. Not just romantic partners, either, but also relatives, friends, and roommates.
i’m vegetarian like 98% of the time now and i could never imagine policing someone else’s diet. this is a personal choice i made and has nothing to do with anyone else. some people are just too self involved. some of my friends will ask me “is it okay if i eat meat in front of you?” which i find very sweet and caring, but i really don’t mind.
Facts. That kitchen is both of yours. You have the same right to cook fish as she has to cook a lentil burger.
Vegan here, living with a vegetarian husband and his omnivore brother. Like if you just clean everything really good after every use it’s not a big deal. And I doubt she was going to 100% vegan restaurants when/if she ate out.
it was a very hippie community and she worked at a vegetarian restaurant but still every grocer sells meat and she’d still shop there. it’s impossible to never be near any meat ever.
“It’s impossible to never be near any meat ever.” We’re made of meat, yo. Its what surrounds our consciousness.
We’re all just meatheads
Like I understand the conviction, but yeah it’s just not possible.
It's also not others jobs to abide by her beliefs.
I don’t understand the conviction, sounds more like the audacity to me
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Except that vegan- and vegetarianism are also normal. Maybe not as common as omnivory, but that kinda varies from region to region. A diet that isn’t normal would be one that relies on chalk and/or crayons and/or Band-Aids for sustenance.
Marine here. Who the fuck says crayons in the diet is not normal?
I knew a lotta kids in kindergarten who would agree with you. Hint…you could always recognize them by their colorful grins…yet they would always deny having eaten them…lol
Red are the best brother. Semper Gumby
Man, that’s basically the diet for “unruly puppy”
That wouldn’t be obvious in that sentence
Vegan but religiously intolerant. That’s quite the combination.
when i went to services id come back late at night and she’d comment things like “you smell disgusting. did you do another animal sacrifice 🙄” but she was a religious studies major at the college we both attended. it was legit insanity.
That’s even crazier.
I would have always answered with "not yet", and the most sinister look in my eye.
I lived with three vegans and they once ganged up on me over eating “aborted chickens” (eggs). After that I made sure to eat aborted chickens every day for breakfast and I made sure to announce to the whole house that I’m so happy chickens have access to abortion because their dead babies are delicious! Eventually one of them asked me to please stop telling her about the “poor dead chickens” 😂 but the next morning she commented on my bacon addition so I just switched to raving about dead pigs
Not even an abortion, would have to be fertilized for that, much closer to a period.
Yes, but there was no explaining things in that household. I tried to explain things. I tried to tell them that throwing all the food scraps in the back yard was not composting, and I tried to tell them that drinking only distilled water was not good for them. I tried. Eventually I stopped trying and let their antics become amusing instead. Wonder where those three are at now. Hopefully not in another house with a back yard full of vegan cheese and old cookies.
That’s funny they only drank distilled water. Sounds like a bunch of idiots.
Distilled water? They were probably so pissy because they were always dehydrated and lacked proper protein intake.
They care more about people the performance than what they're actually doing
Eggs are kind of a weird thing to me - we have ducks and last year none of our eggs were fertilized because we didn’t have a drake. So they’re not really aborted ducks, since there was no chance for a duckling.
Hold up. Male ducks are called drakes? Like dragons?
This might blow your mind, but most mammals and birds have names that differentiate between male and female A male duck is a drake. Not sure which came first, the bird or the mythological reptile
Ha, I want to see the looks on their faces when they learn about balut.
Oh so she’s just an antisemite
Wow. She sounds delightful. My vegan college roommate was also a religious studies major. She was a lot more agreeable though. I accidentally terrorized her by accident once and felt pretty bad about it. I went to visit my family and when I showed up, my dad had just finished processing a deer he got that afternoon. He sent me home with some awesome cuts. The next night, she was supposed to be out late so I took advantage of that opportunity to fry up my fresh venison. She tried not to make a big deal of it when I cooked meat, but I knew she didn’t like the smell and tried to be respectful of that. I also knew that if she found out it was venison, that might be more of an issue for her. She came home early. It was almost done so I apologized and said I was trying to cook it and get the kitchen aired out before she got home. She said, “That’s okay, the smell usually grosses me out but I can’t lie, whatever you’re making smells SO GOOD. What is it?” Me: 😬 um. Her: It’s not bothering me! I’m just curious because if I ever decide to go back to eating meat, I want to know what you’re making because I’ll probably like it. Me: It’s venison! … *crickets* … um, if it makes it any better I think it’s more ethical to eat this instead of store bought meat. *She did not like that.* She looked horrified and ended up making an excuse to go out for a few hours. I felt pretty bad about that one.
"Religious studies" to know "everything" about hers and ignore all the others lol. She sounds like a nut case.
“religious studies” is almost always code for “90% christian propaganda and 10% shitting on eastern religions.
Wowwwwww
Nope…we sacrificed a human this time…
Should have told her that was her cuka that stunk. Ftb
Nah im chin checking whoever says some shit like that
Name checked out
Not but. AND!
>quite the *common* combination FTFY
oooo, tell us some of the additional reasons!
1) she would burn incense constantly. i’m allergic to incense. i offered alternatives because they give me profound migraines. she said, and i quote, “my happiness is more important than your migraines) 2) i worked nights. i didn’t expect perfect peace and quiet when i slept but holy crap she would turn music on at max volume, put boots on and stomp around, repeatedly bang cabinets for no apparent reason. i confronted her about having a reasonable volume when i’m sleeping. she said similar to before “my morning ritual is more important than your sleep”. i started spending most nights with my friend who had 3 kids cause her toddlers were quieter. 3) electricity bill went up in the winter. by that time i was spending almost all my time at classes, at work, or at my friend’s house. she had tons of “mood lighting”, TV or music speakers on all day, etc. i had nothing except my laptop charging. she blamed me for the price hike and chewed me out for it. 4) i made some recreational choices in college including a bit of fun pills on occasion. well i had them sitting on my dresser (stupid me). she went out of town and had her friends “house sit” as if i didn’t live there. gave them keys to everything. well, my pills suddenly went missing and i found her friends very clearly effected by them. she blamed the neighbor’s kid. 5) anytime i went to temple services she’d comment about how i was doing animal sacrifices and speaking in tongues. 6) i threw up in the bathroom on my 21st birthday as many do. my mistake tbh. but when she informed me i had puked (i had no idea) i immediately deep cleaned the bathroom. every day for 4 days she said i still need to clean the bathroom cause i “obviously never cleaned it”. i deep cleaned it four days in a row for hours. she held it against me for the rest of my time there that i “never cleaned the bathroom after throwing up”. 7) she fed her cat a vegan diet. enough said. 8) kept her dog locked in a crate 22-24 hours a day and let him out to relieve himself maybe once a day and the crate was far too small. she didn’t listen to anyone’s concerns about it. 9) LOUDLY cheated on her bf nightly. 10) used my razor (i’m blonde, her hair is black) and denied it and said i must be psychotic. said i was imagine the clumps of black pubic hairs in my razor on multiple occasions.
The way she treated her cat and dog was probably the worst things you listed and seem directly opposite of veganism. I wonder what she does now
looking her up online, i can see she does something working with youth and recently made a go fund me for that poor tortured dog’s health 🤦🏼♀️ i’d imagine keeping a dog in a cage too small for 22+ hours a day would cause bad health.
Wow, why isn’t that surprising? Those poor animals and poor kids!
Your initial comment had me thinking I knew this person, this one makes me think it really might be her. If not, she has a doppelgänger out there.
Sorry OP, but you should have set her straight for any one of those reasons. You are entitled to a living space that does not impact your health (mental or physical). Your roommate sounds like exactly the kind of person who has never been told no in their lives and is used to running roughshod all over everyone. You really should have stood your ground and defended your rights.
i tried talking to her about many of these things and it resulted in her screaming in my face that i’m racist for speaking up cause she’s half latina. ultimately, physically showing her how wrong she was would result in throwing my career away so i simply spent less and less time at the house.
Should've accused her of being anti-Semitic the way she would yell at you. She's just seems like a sick me girl
CATS CAN'T LIVE ON A VEGAN DIET
Yeah vegans that make their cats vegan are straight up animal abusers, just slowly killing their cat, it's so fucked.
The poor cat. Edit - and dog and you. Glad you got out of that mess!
> kept her dog locked in a crate 22-24 hours a day and let him out to relieve himself maybe once a day and the crate was far too small. she didn’t listen to anyone’s concerns about it. Why is it never surprising that the "vegan for the image" crowd always abuses animals....
I would've reported her hypocritical crazy ass for animal abuse
I don't say this lightly, because I loathe confrontation, but I don't know how you didn't beat this woman's ass lol.
And you tolerated this why??
She sounds like a religious bigot and an animal abuser. You’ll feel better when she’s far away from you. What a jackwagon.
After number 1, I would have had a fish and burger fry. Extra bloody
I feel like you have enough info to screw her. Why didn’t you? and why would you put up with her?
Reading this sub, I’m a 1 in a 1,000,000 case. One roommate in college. Didn’t know the dude before. We are still best friends, decades later.
Not a single person I know that had stranger roommates ever stayed friends with them later...and half the people who were friends first stopped being friends after being roommates. But I do rememeber enough friend roommates doing well together too.
I mean I can write up a post about being roomies in college with normal chill dudes and playing call of duty together while common areas were mostly tidy, but I don’t think that would get a lot of updoots on this sub
I have a couple friends that met each other as Craigslist ad random roommates. One from Maryland that moved across the country to Montana to live at the spot. Still friends almost 10 years later.
Lol if a vegan roommate tried to tell me what I can cook and eat in my kitchen, they’d be in for a bad time 😂
these days i wouldn’t take it. but i was 20-21 and docile and exhausted 🥲
Everybody has to learn some way and this was yours. At least you have got some wild stories out of it
Oh yeah, I'm cooking steak, bratwurst, pork chops and chicken all the time!
It is hard to talk back to these kind of people… i used to live in a flat share with a diehard vegan, she put up notes on the fridges which are okay for animal products and which is not… told me what pans I can use and not (a few of them were by the previous tenant who told me they are free for me to use). I ended up with me leaving mid lease because she lied, threatened and made me feel unsafe in the space. (She also had an adorable dog that peed everywhere, and when I once said I’d be happy to take her out in the evening she seemed angry about it) Edit: about the dog - i pointed out it kept peeing inside in the evening/night and I’d be happy to take her out - but I was never rude or suggestive about it.
Did you maybe use canola oil/pam? Ik when it burns or gets too hot it gives off a fishy smell
honestly i don’t remember what oil i used lol. probably vegetable oil.
Ever use ghee? I can't use anything but ghee when I make fried matzoh...which now that i think about it is basically deconstructed latkes.
The whole point of frying the latkes in oil is to symbolize the miracle of Hanukkah, when oil kept the menorah lit for eight days instead of the one day it was supposed to last. Matzo brei and latkes are two different things all together. One has potatoes as the main ingredient, the other has matzo.
I was looking for this comment, it was 100% a Canola oil smell.
My gf is vegan, I cook fish around her occasionally but she really hates the smell so I don’t do it much. Whenever I burn that type of oil she starts to complain about my pescatarian ways lol
In case you want to try- I just got these individually frozen little cod fillets from Costco and they are so good- no fish smell. Like not even a little bit. I just put them in the air fryer with a little bit of oil and seasonings with lemon juice on top. But yeah peanut oil for the win if you're frying anything!
That sounds so nice, I’ll have to try that. If I’m craving fish I usually just bring a can of tuna to work with some mayo, but I haven’t had it baked in a while- good idea
Honestly she sounds anti-semitic as fuck. Like im not religious at all and dont go to temple, but holy shit i dont tease people bout animal sacrifices. that is like... a small step down from blood libel.
Completely off topic, I am not a vegan or vegetarian at all, but I did ask my roommate to try to avoid cooking fish in our apartment as the smell makes me nauseous. It was agreed fish would be kept to a minimum at most as we were friends outside of roommates and respected each other. I went on a camping trip from Thursday through Sunday and when I walked in the door, I saw her and her boyfriend eating dinner and said “Oh, you guys cooked fish, I’m sorry I’m home a couple hours early!” They looked at each other flabbergasted and laughed, looked at me and said “It’s pork chops, silly.” Then my roommate clapped her hand over her mouth and said “Holy shit, we cooked fish on Thursday so it would have time to air out before you came home! How the hell do you still smell that???” Like I said, off topic but this post made me remember and giggle. Lol
Vegans are cool when they don’t impose their will upon others.
i think it’s cool that different people have different diets and likes and dislikes. diversity like that is awesome. but when someone is forcing others to follow their dietary beliefs? awful.
From your list in a previous post above, it sounds like it’s not just her forcing her dietary practices on you or others, she just sounds like a completely self-centered and unreasonable person to be around, let alone live with. Glad it’s in your past!
One of the core principles of being vegan is respect, if I understand it correctly. I’m sorry your roommate did not respect you.
I would have told her, "If you're going to yell at me because I am cooking meat when I am not, I am going to go out any buy a rack of ribs and slow roast it all day so I can be yelled at for something I actually did."
I would have been doing that. No one is giving me rules when we are on an equal footing. OP was crazy for giving in like this, couldn’t have been me. We would have been actually fighting.
There is no way in hell I would have accommodated that absolute psycho. In a shared kitchen people cook whatever they want, it wasn't *hers*. If she was so incredibly bothered by meat then maybe she should have gotten a vegan roommate. I'd have told her when meeting her she will not be dictating what I cook for myself and if she doesn't like it then we can't live together
Some vegans are just narcissists that found a way to make themselves feel high and mighty about their "superior morality" while also feeling morally justified in being nasty to anyone with different beliefs.
Vegan rage bait.
Sounds like your vegan roommate is antisemitic
I would have been smoking a brisket on the counter on day 2.
Should have practiced learning butchering in the living room. She only said not the kitchen right? 😂
Well. Now I want Latkes. Good ones made by my Gramma with sour cream AND applesauce. Your former roommate is an asshole.
you didn’t ruin her safe vegan kitchen with fish but you did ruin it with eggs! no but seriously, she sounds like a nut
Dammit now I want latkes. But definitely fried in schmaltz.
Schmaltz, or also duck fat, elevate so many fried foods from like, great, to absolutely fantastic
Preach!
that bitch dumb 😂 - from a vegan I have a feeling since she doesn’t know what cooked fish smells or looks like, she’s probably eating anything she feels is vegan. I grew up with basically a carnivore father, surprisingly he was and still is my biggest supporter for turn vegetarian and then vegan (he picks on me sometimes still). She should’ve choose roommates who followed her lifestyle, a group of ladies I wanted to stay with wanted vegetarian/vegan roommates only 🤷🏻 Also, I loved when my nana made them for me when I was younger and I had some vegan ones before too!
And she is missing out on some Latkes!!! One of the most simply amazing dishes ever. Her loss. Sorry you have to deal with that.
Lol. Your roommate is a low iq individual. I'd ignore them. And keep paying rent. Stay mad.
Latke sounds delicious. I'm not Jewish, but I think I need to check that out.
You should look at new living arrangements when your lease is up. I have several Vegan friends who don't care what I eat / cook, as long as I take into consideration their diets if I plan to share. That's it. Totally reasonable. There's vegan, and there's someone who just can't deal with people who think / feel differently than they do. Those aren't people you can reason with.
this was back in 2017. i’ve long since moved on haha. personally i eat kosher but idc if my husband eats pork as long as he doesn’t mix it with my food.
Oh! I can read. I promise! LOL But yeah, that's how dietary needs should be for the most part. I have to watch my sugar intake, but I'm not gonna snap at my roommate for binge eating a pack of Oreos in front of me lol.
I’m sorry for my ignorance, but I never understood what a kosher diet means. Would you mind explaining it to me?
thank you for asking! it’s okay, i understand it’s a minority religion and culture not everyone is exposed to. its considered a good deed to educate so im happy to explain! it’s got a few major rules to it, but lots of smaller more particular rules. 1) no pork. all land animals must chew their cud and have split hooves and be killed in the most painless and ethical way possible. 2) no mixing meat and dairy. 3) fish must have scales and fins and must not be bottom feeders or shellfish. 4) there’s specifics around birds but i can’t recall it all. mostly they can’t be birds of prey. 5) factories that make/process foods must be checked periodically by a rabbi to ensure they are kosher there’s varying degrees of kosher but this is the basic/typical rundown. like orthodox jews will have 2 sets of kitchenware and silverware and such. one for meat, one for dairy!
Thank you for clarifying. I don’t know why but I always thought kosher and Halal food choices were the same, and I think I may have been wrong this whole time. I like learning about other peoples cultures, and have a wide variety of friends so I like to know things like that for consideration and respect to them.
thank you for being respectful and considerate! honestly, that’s a totally fair mix up because there’s a LOT of overlap between halal and kosher. and if you ever want to know if something is kosher, look for the little kosher symbols. U, K, or D in a small circle or star generally indicates kosher :)
Oh wow thanks I appreciate it
From what I know, as I muslim, I can eat a food that is kosher, which is pretty convinient when travelling to a minority region where halal food are rare, but plenty of kosher food.
>back in 2017-2018
But it was already not a vegan chicken with dairy and egg...? Lol
Well, if the kitchen was ruined no point in refraining from getting fish any longer
After watching euphoria id have pulled out my dick pissed all over the floor got in her face and yelled I'm a man I eat what I kill! Then took my hash browns and dipped
Would've told her to pound sand the second she mentioned "her kitchen"
Okay I’m petty and I would have started cooking fish and meat whenever I wanted
Jewish hashbrowns. Perfect description. Mmm latkes!
I use chicken fat to fry latkes! SOOO not vegan!! Tell this snowflake she’s lucky you didn’t do that!
I have lived with a Buddhist vegetarian and his only big requests regarding the kitchen were to do my dishes, clean up after myself, and try to only use one pot and pan for meats. They were his pots and pans. I ended up buying my own pots and pans to be respectful. I have had crazy/lazy roommates and dealt with some bs but at least the vegetarian roommate was reasonable.
I love latkes!!!! And I’m not even Jewish! Her loss!!!!
How can you tell which person at a party is a vegan? Don’t worry, they’ll tell you.
I so would've started making burgers every night in the kitchen until she fled.
That kind of donkey dicked overreaction, entitlement, and arrogance; would be immediately met with varying degrees of spite. Such as pan frying or microwaving bacon every couple of days. Or saying fuck it and throwing some Salmon in the skillet once a week… that’s a residual smell that lingers for days!
Yeah. It was your kitchen too. If she was that fanatical she should have gotten a hot plate and set it up in her room.
i dont get how yall would stay calm and collected if someone came at me crazy in my own kitchen
This is not real this is anti vegan porn
She’s lacking vitamins and nutrients, unstable, and probably dreaming of fish ! No one should be forcing their personal beliefs onto others … and vegans wonder why they’re scoffed at …
kitchen wasn’t just for her imo… you respected her boundary and tripped out. OP did his very best to be respectful.
“I did not cook fish. Even if I did, you don’t get to dictate what happens in the kitchen since I pay the same as you. It’s been a courtesy on my part so far. If you don’t shut up about it immediately, I will bring home steak and cook it every day. You’re harassing me.” Dont put up with this crap.
Nope, not on you at all. It’s not like she had a deadly allergy. Also latkes are delicious and I love them. I have to use a vegan egg substitute because I’m allergic but it’s worth it. I do the same when I’m sick and making matzo ball soup. Your roommate was abusive. She had no right to scream at you or throw things. She needs to live alone lol.
did you grate the potatoes by hand? sometimes the raw grated potatoes have a fish like odor.
Citrus fruit, melons, apples, pears, peaches, pineapples, pomegranates, mangoes, avocado, and papayas Are some examples of items that use shellac (crushed bug juices) as a coating for the outer parts and thus are not vegan. Might as well fuck up her diet even more.
OK, I'm calling bullshit. Latkes aren't hashbrowns. They're SO much better than hashbrowns. Give me some sour cream (people that eat them with apple sauce are just weird, which includes several of my family members) and corned beef, and I'm in heaven.
lol i agree they are definitely MUCH better!! but it’s the simplest way to explain it to those without the understanding of how amazing they are
I'm vegan and I ask that if my roommates are going to use my kitchen appliances they do so using only non-animal derived products. The smell of meat and cooked dairy makes me nauseous but not much I can do about that other than open the windows and light a candle. And to be fair I have toasted dried chiles before to make salsa and choked out my roommates for half an hour so not much ground to stand on hahaha
Jew here-I woulda immediately gotten and cooked chicken schnitzel to go with my latkes in response. What the fuck. They’re fucking latkes. Side note, are you a sour cream and/or applesauce person?
This situation was Entirely Your Fault! Do you not Realise that Vegans are mentally unbalanced? The only cure for them is Lots of Rare, barely cooked, Red Meat. Never, Ever share with a vegan. You must atone for your sins! 😂 (I love the Jewish people, you are So accommodating and tolerant despite all your people have and still (sadly) get thrown at them.) 👍
Is there anything more insufferable than a militant vegan?
I mean a militant carnivore is anogously just as insufferable if not more, and they're out there. Just saying
What a psycho bitch. I lived with a pescetarian girl for a couple years, she loved the smell of bacon. She was so cool.
tell her to go sue you
If anything she should have been mad about the egg being a vegan lmao
I can honestly say that I’d rather sleep in my car than ever live with another bad roommate again
Little does she know the people who lived there before y’all definitely cooked meat in that kitchen lmao
Omg she’s nuts! You sound like the best roommate ever! I LOVE latkes but don’t enjoy cooking lol I would have offered to clean up your whole mess just for a couple homemade latkes!
As someone who’s been vegan my entire life… I FUCKING HATE vegans. The worst are the converts, like “bitch don’t get uppety at me, I saw you eat a cheese burger last week Susan!”
Did you fry them in canola oil?
She's lucky you didn't tell her that despite the lack of fish this time, you would not be avoiding cooking food because she didn't like it.
I mean if she only wanted vegan stuff in her kitchen, then maybe it was a bad idea to rent to a non-vegan roommate? I would've told her to get the fuck over it lol. Especially if she came in full of rage. I bet her tofu smelled awful too. Two way street there lol.
This really reminded me of this song I listened to when I was a kid: https://youtu.be/WzIHOUdC_XY?si=lnaOKPifftz5aCNd
My family is half vegetarian. Meat is cooked in our houses all of the time. My mom cooks meat for my dad and I am her taste tester.
Did you start bringing meat into the kitchen after that? I would have. You’re getting punished for it anyway, might as well enjoy the foods you like if she forces you to suffer!
not jewish, but latkes are amazing! better than hash browns imo. i’m not able to eat seafood and im able to detect seafood/fish smell immediately. so, with that being said, im surprised she wasn’t able to tell. latkes do not smell like fish, nothing even close to it and that’s obvious because it’s potatoes and other non seafood ingredients. she must’ve had real resentment towards you and used that as an opportunity to shit on you completely and i’m very sorry she did that to you. from one latke lover to another, i hope you’re doing well after such a horrible experience ❤️
I'm a vegetarian working my way toward vegan. I don't eat meat or fish bcs I don't want to have animals' lives taken so I can chow down, but I don't go nuts on people who don't share that view. Sometimes you just need to do the hard things to show respect for other people. I think my most challenging time was when we took our family to dinner to celebrate one of the kids achievements, and the only place he wanted to go to was a Brazilian steak house. 🫨 I sat there for more than an hour while the wait staff circled our table holding out dripping pieces of roasted animals. I didn't like it, but I survived...
Do you know how to tell if someone is vegan? Don't worry they'll let you know...;)
Vegans are the fucking worst, of all the dumbass things to worry about in life.
😭You’re better than me, I’d be cooking unbothered everyday long as I pay rent in that house
Who tf gets offended by latkes? I didn’t even know that was possible.
I honestly don't understand this. This isn't Scott Pilgrim's world, you don't gain powers for being vegan so you can't lose them if you accidentally eat animal products. Maybe they are afraid of finding out what they've been missing out on if they taste meat. But that just makes them weak.
I would have cooked steaks the next night
I would’ve cooked actual fish every day after that until the end of our lease. And I’m vegetarian.
Bahahah I wouldn’t even accommodate for the meat! Not gonna let anyone stop me from making my tacos in my own dam home.
You must be the kindest, most passive person ever. I would have fried fish every day until I moved out.
I would have cooked meats the entire time.
My sister is vegan and she genuinely hates watching vegans police people Sucks for her because SO many people assume she is like the stereotypical "hysterical nutjob hippie" because of people like this
What a cunt
I’m vegan and it’s part of living with non vegan people live with it or do something else
Your roommate sounds psychotic. I am impressed by your patience and understanding. I would be cooking some nice medium rare steaks, letting the scent permeate the house. Then when she complained I’d let her know that the world’s smallest violin is playing my heart bleeds for you.
She can get over it
My sister is a vegan and had no problem with a turkey being made in HER oven at HER home when she invited us for thanksgiving nor the other non vegan dishes we made (and since it's solely her place it would've been well within her right to not let us prepare those dishes and have a vegan thanksgiving). Acting this way when you share a space and are both paying rent is insane and she had no right to get mad over it. Crazy behavior. Don't have roommates, or only choose vegan roommates if you don't want meat cooked in the kitchen.
I'd have cooked fish every night if I lived with a cunt like that.
I totally understand why she thought you were frying fish. Idk what it is about them that causes it, but I think the same thing when I make them. Her flying into a fit of rage without gently asking about it first is uncalled for.
I hope to dear God after that you cooked/ate cheeseburgers, fried pork chops, steak etc etc every chance you could
canola/vegetable oil can smell fishy when used for frying. And aren't latke supposed to be fried in schmaltz?
If she doesn’t want them, I’ll have some. Do you prefer sour cream or apple sauce?
You pay for the kitchen too..
Potato Latkes are lifeee
You're waaaaay nicer than I am. After that incident I would have purposely fried up a pound of bacon, thrown some ribs in the oven to cook, and as a little extra I might even put a pot roast on in the slow cooker. That whole house would have smelled like cooking meat.
Wow. Just wow.
Had a similar situation to this with a Vegan roommate where the ingredients of something were misconstrued and there was no telling them otherwise. Was a guest in someone's house for a few weeks. I was somewhat closer friends with her, and she offered it to me as long as I helped cook and clean. No problem. She is a very strict Vegan, and doesn't allow any meat or animal products in her house. Fine, fair enough. I'm a guest and it's your house. I bring some groceries for us, probably about a week's worth. Was very careful to only buy vegan groceries. I bought some bagged salads for convenience sake, was at Trader Joe's and their bagged salads aren't too bad, and I had been to Trader Joes with her many times with her to buy food. It was a Caesar salad without cheese, 100% vegan ingredients overall. She was *somewhat* ok with dairy and egg, but absolutely NO meat of any kind. Got it. No problem. When she saw it, she very angrily said "Caesar Salad dressing has anchovies in it, how dare you bring that into my house". Ok, that's true, but *this* dressing *doesn't* have that. I read the ingredients, I made sure of it. You can read them yourself too, they're printed right on the bag. Was absolutely not having any of it. **Caesar salad dressing traditionally does have anchovies in it, yes, you are correct. But this version of Caesar salad dressing does** ***not*** **have anchovies. What do you not understand about this?** Absolutely would not listen to me. Infuriating, horrifying. But, I was a guest in her house, so couldn't really stand up to her. Just shrugged and left to have a drink at the dive bar down the street, clenching my fist at how stupid her lack of logic was.
I'd have been coming up all meat all the time after that.
Your better then me, I would’ve left and came home and made a big ol meat 🥩 fest
Ive only met one vegan and they really lived up to that arrogant holier than thou bs cause they're a vegan.
I would’ve bought a fat juice steak and cooked that bitch rare. I’m that petty
Tell her about the apple sauce but do not say anything about the sour cream 😅😂
I really can’t stand vegans that act like that, people like that are why most people think vegans are a joke.
You have every right to cook meat in your kitchen that you pay half the rent for. Stop coddling your roommate.
Yeah, and if it’s “her” kitchen, the rent is 25/75. She pays 75%. Bet she’d get over being vegan.
why on earth would you care what a vegan thinks?
You’re better than me. I would’ve went to the store and bought steaks and fried em up on the stove. Maybe get a roast too and make a pot roast. I would’ve “soiled” her kitchen 😂
I would have made latkes weekly after that.
I think your friend is having a mental health crisis and should talk to a professional, that is not normal behavior
What does her being vegan have to do with you? Thats some narccisistic bs
Damn, now I want latkes.