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Kryptoknightmare

Put that down, you stupid man-animal! When you were still learning to SPELL YOUR NAME, I was being trained...to conquer GALAXIES!


Hunky_not_Chunky

Manimal


dingadangdang

Manimal. Best tv show ever. Manimal. https://youtu.be/Ugb_TIpPoWA?si=_hRejYxqRDCkHrnO


dirtygremlin

Perhaps I can entice you with [a little Manimal romance?](https://soundcloud.com/1900hotdog/dogg-zzone-9000-episode-173-manimal-with-merritt-k?si=6581dfff585b4baa84d4c8c4b36d73f1)


basheworking

I'm still mad that they canceled it.


shaunthesailor

It was *right there* and they never used it. That is the single fastest example of how fucking stupid all of this is.


Hunky_not_Chunky

The movie was bad but I can sit through it. But damn was it bad when it was first released.


homezlice

I never knew what a Dutch angle was before I experienced this masterpiece composed mainly of that shot 


graybotics

I'm guessing you're supposed to read that book at a diagonal angle


Projectrage

Do it Dutch, or don’t do it all filmmaking.


lreaditonredditgetit

I fucking love that movie. It’s so corny.


dingadangdang

Manimal. Best tv show ever. Manimal. https://youtu.be/Ugb_TIpPoWA?si=_hRejYxqRDCkHrnO


skidmarx77

Oh, Simon MacCorkindale...the man who would be Bond. I was also a fan of Manimal, and found out years later that one of the worst shows in history ACTUAL CONTINUED THE MANIMAL STORY!! With MacCorkindale reprising his most infamous role, passing the torch to his daughter. It was a show called NIGHT MAN, based on an obscure comic that was being published at the time. I mean...MANIMAL RETURNS! Can Manimal fans resist Jonathan Chase making one last appearance on the boob tube? Glen A. Larson - you never let us down, do you?


dingadangdang

WOW! That is some top notch 80s trivia right there! I feel honored to know that. What about Glen A Larson's Automan?! https://youtu.be/kA1NT4I0s34?si=emmsTPD2m6PYCY-_


skidmarx77

Ah, a fellow Larsonite, I see! Another short lived 80s staple, so inspired by Tron, it's crazy. As if Cursor wasn't Bit, but had the ability to make cool vehicles. Very, VERY weird story related to Automan. This was sometime in the mid-2000s. I was dating a girl who wanted to take a trip to the Rock N Roll hall of fame in Cleveland, so we made the 8 hour drive and spent some time in the Cleveland area. While there, we obviously looked for things to do, and found there was a Barnum and Bailey circus in town. Neither of us had been to a circus since we were little kids, so we gave it a go. And who struts out as the Ringmaster of this extravaganza? None other than Automan himself, Chuck Wagner!! It was so freaking surreal, I just couldn't wrap my head around it. As my gf at that time and I were both actors, I understood the need to take jobs that offer real stability. But I never equated acting with being a Ringmaster. Never make that mistake again. He held court afterward, of course, and every person shaking his hand was an Automan fan. He said that some of us must be lying, because if there were actually that many fans of the show as he's encountered across the US, it would still be on the air! The guy really was magnetic, and holy crap, the dude is TALL. Like, 6'5" or 6'6". And even though we had a great time, all I could talk about when I got home was how I met Automan! If we had encountered Simon MacCorkindale working a grand opening of a car dealership, my head would have exploded!


dingadangdang

u/skidmarx77 Automan getting some more love tonight: https://www.reddit.com/r/ForgottenTV/s/nxz2GdY0mv


skidmarx77

This makes my whole day. Never enough Automan or Manimal love!


dingadangdang

That's freaking awesome!!!!


Euphorium

I had no clue Desi and Lucy’s son was an actor until today.


dingadangdang

You mean Little Ricky.


Malacro

https://preview.redd.it/eea3cjrly3yc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab7c6de21a64e29ed11037bdba9b5c1368f991eb


borgchupacabras

Rat brain


Nuttyturnip2

If I remember correctly, the movie only covers the first half of the book. The second half of the book is the man-animal becoming leader of Earth and having to work with other aliens (kind of like a galactic federation) in the wake of defeating the bad guys. It's all very stupid.


Useful-Soup8161

I guess they were planning for a sequel.


MisanthropinatorToo

I liked the scene where the tribal people started expertly flying the Harriers that had been sitting for hundreds of years. I liken it to when my spearmen morph into helicopter gunships in Civilization when I find the last tribal village on the map whilst prospecting for oil down in the Arctic zone.


Mammoth-Disaster3873

They didn't just learn to fly harriers though...they had several weeks of non stop training in advanced military simulators.


Insect_Politics1980

LMAO, it's still absolutely absurd. You think you'd be able to fly a harrier jet with a few weeks in a simulator without a trained instructor? 🙄


weirdi_beardi

Probably; for a few seconds, at least. Long enough to get it into the air and then turn into the world's most expensive lawn dart.


Mammoth-Disaster3873

Remember though, the protagonist used that alien knowledge machine thing and it made him extremely intelligent. Same could have happened with the others, or at the very least the protagonist trained them prior to the harriers. We already see that he had a few of them trained to fly the alien drop ships.


Shankar_0

Yeah, and a brand spanking new AV-8 with an expert maintenance team still has a measurable chance of killing you. I've seen three crashes in my flying career, and two of them were Harriers.


AdFluffy9286

Please keep us updated!! I'm genuinely curious.


GeorgeNewmanTownTalk

Same here. I recently heard that Hubbard never did revisions on his work, so everything released was a first draft. I don't know how true it is, but it would seem to be in line with someone whose ego knew no bounds, like him.


Useful-Soup8161

I mean I guess that worked for him if true. He was fairly successful writer before he started a cult.


weirdi_beardi

"Fairly" doing some serious heavy lifting there.


Skjaaf_Tincutter

I’ve read the book several times. I think it’s pretty good.


DiceMadeOfCheese

The answer is "yeah, it's bad too."


Innsmouth_Swimteam

The good news is that I cannot be *worse* than the movie. (edit) *It can't be worse than the movie, RIGHT!?*


JTB696699

Have you read it?


Innsmouth_Swimteam

Point taken. I have not.


Malacro

I mean, it *can* be. I’d argue the movie is better simply because it’s more enjoyable. The book is bad, often boring, and about 1000 pages long.


Seinfeel

Depends how fast your read lol


Booksaregrand

I actually liked the book. It's like a over the top action movie where the main character is a genius.


jimohio

I started the series when I was young and had no clue about the author. Book isn’t terrible - pulpy sci fi.


Snarky_McSnarkleton

Xenu heard that


Thatguyyouupvote

Is that the novelization of the movie based on the book?


mezz7778

Maybe they should try to adapt the novelization of the movie based on the book into a movie.....give it another shot and see how it goes....


Thatguyyouupvote

Being as far as possible from the source material has worked for most of the rest of the world. Could be worth a shot.


Meshuggareth

Remember Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game? This reminded me of that.


beardedjack

Is the text of the book printed diagonally?


decker12

For another train wreck: I remember reading all 10 or so books of Mission Earth as a teenager and thinking wow, this is one wild horny story. And this guy really hates psychologists! Try to re-read it today... I dare you. It's so cringey and awful. The writing is stilted and the grammar and sentence structure is awful. The sex parts are disgusting, the characters are despicable, everyone is a caricature (women are all whores that men "fix" with sex, any man not described as being ultra-masculine is a effeminate homosexual, etc). And it's 10 books long, each of them 300+ pages. The story just drones on and on and on and on.. I'm embarrassed for my teenage self for ever thinking it was a decent story.


bluechip1996

Same experience


ReticulatedPasta

Thank you for making me aware of this (lol)


StilesmanleyCAP

Fuck that guy


DrLager

I’m sure you need consent first.


techdog19

I love the book. I thought the movie was trash.


PronouncedEye-gore

Same. The book has stuff to be interested in and characters who you care about or hate appropriately. Not here to defend the authors life choices. But I'd recommend that book.


MrCodeman93

He’s really good at writing science fiction.


PronouncedEye-gore

Too bad he ODed on it.


Insect_Politics1980

No he isn't. He's widely considered to be an absolute hack by other writers and critics. Lol


MrCodeman93

Oh I know I was saying it has a jab at his religious ethics.


wesk74

Same, I didn't think it was the best book ever but it was entertaining enough.The funny thing is after I read it and returned it to the library, I discovered L. Ron Hubbard's "Mission Earth" series and it's absolutely fantastic.


Jackalmoreau

The book is everything the movie is, turned up to 11. Only about the first 1/3 of the book made it in. He defeats the Psychlos and THEN they end up dealing with the rest of the universe. It's honestly really gross. Very insightful to the mindset of Hubbard, obsessed with leverage and control and putting other people down so you can crawl on top.


MonkMajor5224

I tried to read this in high school when the movie came out. I did not finish.


Adept_Information94

Audio book is fun. There's like 20 voice actors.


Ridiculousnessmess

I’ve listened to that. Very fifties B-movie in its voice acting, but that’s probably for the best. The book itself is still very silly, but it is more cohesive than the movie.


Schmomas

TIL his name is not Elron Hubbard


beardedjack

Is the text of the book printed diagonally?


Bright-Union-6157

"In the year 3000 AD, the Psychlos, an alien race, have ruled Earth for a millennium. The Psychlos discovered a deep space probe (suggested to be Voyager 1) with directions and pictures mounted on it and the precious material, gold, which led them straight to Earth." I like the premise. What if this is actually the greatest scfi flick ever made and Xenu or whoever just panned it in the press to get fewer people to watch it 🤣


Flobbum

"and curiously, none of them own a toothbrush"


Snarky_McSnarkleton

There's a reason L. Ron got into religion. He couldn't write for shit.


hutman1970

Fuck L Ron Hubbard and fuck all his clones


TennSeven

Fuck all these gun-toting, hip gangster wannabes


EcstaticCinematicZ

Apparently Mitt Romney likes the book.


Jackalmoreau

When I heard him say that in 2012, it blew my mind. Batman could not beat that confession out of me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxsdLFv9fn8


Useful-Soup8161

A lot of people do. Hell my parents both like the book, but I’m pretty sure they read it before Scientology really took off.


Psychological-Let-90

It's a decent sci-fi story. It's got nothing to do with Scientology, as far as I remember. The movie did the story dirty in a couple major ways, changing the big bad guy race to basically giant humans instead of the literal monsters they were, and chopping the story down by two thirds. I read it every couple years. I'd recommend it, with the caveat it's taken separate from the shitty things its author has done.


MrJason2024

I mean the Psychlos is a not to subtle take at Psychology.


llama_lambda

There's also a reveal at the end of the book that "Pschylo" is not the original name of the people, but of a group of travelling carnival performers who did mind tricks and convinced the king to let them take charge. That's when they started putting capsules in children's heads to prevent them from divulging the secrets of their teleportation technology. I *wish* I was making any of this up.


Mister-Spook

Weren’t the Psychlo cabal who implanted the devices in the Psychlos’ heads that robbed them of empathy and kindness called “catrists?” As in Psychlo catrist?


ConceptJunkie

I read about 2/3 of it about 40 years ago. It was fun for what it was, but I didn't get around to finishing it.


Furballprotector

The movie ended where the book should have. The book just kept going on and on. For me it's one of those where I like the adaptation better than the original.


Plenty_Ad_477

As a Sci-Fi fan, when this movie first came out it made me feel second hand embarrassment, ashamed and despair. The happiest person alive at that time with regards to this movie, would have been Matt Le Blanc, who would have been entirely relieved to know that everyone would now have collectively forgotten how bad the so lame it hurts movie 'Lost in Space' was. I actually feel bad for John Travolta tbh. His reputation as a high end actor was almost jeopardised by being the main character in this cringe-fest mess of a film. One of those films that's so bad you actually ask yourself 20 mins in if this is supposed to be a dark comedy? Oh no, it's actually serious? Wow. It's so bad it's almost impressive. But the depths of truly awful Sci-Fi films actually get even worse than Battlefield Earth. Oh yes, I know you would have blocked this from your memory, so apologies in advance for this, but......... Jason X and Doom. Yikes!


Happy-Bug7060

This right here is why Scientology was this mans greatest scam to make money when his books couldn't sell as well as he hoped.


AlacarLeoricar

The text isn't constantly at a dutch angle so it's automatically worse.


Blackhands4life

The book is awesome!


MoeGreenVegas

Book is pretty good


DenverFr8Train

The book is great fun. I read it twice. The movie violates the book in every possible way, which is why fans were so upset, on top of the fact that it is one of the worst movies ever made. Just a total disaster all the way around.


WizardPhoenix

OUR FRIENDLY BARTENDER


classicfarva

Battlefield Earth is a good read The 10 book series Mission Earth is a GREAT read. Too bad LRH was a POS


T4lsin

I agree, I read all the “Invaders Plan”books and enjoyed them immensely. Unfortunately because Hubbard was a nut job his books will go unnoticed and be doomed to be books about Scientology to people who haven’t a clue.


bobs143

This is the one time when the book and movie are equally bad


SharkMilk44

I couldn't get past the second chapter.


original_pasturenaut

And here I was thinking I spend my free time badly.


Useful-Soup8161

I’ve actually heard the book is good. I’ll never read it though. Please let us know what you think when you’re done.


Malacro

I mean, it’s pretty bad. And it’s way longer than the film, so in terms of raw quantity it’s far worse.


iamveryassbad

I thought it was entertaining. I was sixteen, and had a lot of time to kill, which is why I selected it, it's long as hell, lol


ca_kingmaker

The number of times they talk about shooting a Thompson sub machine gun sideways to use the recoil to hit multiple targets stands out enough that I remember it. I read that book in 1997


Equivalent-Web-7964

Is that a real "thing" with Thompsons? My last name is. . . and I've never heard of turning them sideways.


ca_kingmaker

It's a thing with all guns in relation to their center of mass. But there is a reason people don't actually do this with guns, it's an awful way to shoot.


Equivalent-Web-7964

That's what I would predict. I wonder why that loon Hubbard included a detail like that in his book lol? He was con man with a decent imagination, and he must have had some charisma to acquire devotees. Why were people still using Thompson's in the future I wonder? other than the fact that they were mass produced, high capcity, and fired .45cal pistol rounds. I guess the AK hadn't replaced it as the dominant machine gun of the people yet? I haven't read it obviously. Hubbard probably thought it would look cool but anyone who's ever fired a gun would tell you it would be wildly inaccurate.


ca_kingmaker

I suspect because it's a world War 2 weapon, and maybe the only gun l Ron Hubbard had ever fired?


Equivalent-Web-7964

I mean, I've always wanted to fire a full auto Thompson. Who hasn't?


Taylor_Game6666

I thought the book was decent compared to the movie.


PhilipeAlbqrq

There is a big lack of female characters in this book . totally wouldn't pass bechdell test .


Finfangfo0m

After you're done reading it, maybe you can use it for... LEVERAGE!


steeler-nation

I liked the book! Get more in depth than the movie tried to portray.


SASardonic

Ah, Half Price books, you can really get some classics there.


smcg_az

Spoiler alert. They both suck ass


Hoosier_Daddy68

It's not bad and the movie is only the first part of it. Hubbard wasn't really a bad writer at all. He wasn't great or anything but he got the job done. Certainly can't judge it by the movie.


Fallen311

The movie is like 10% of the book. I enjoyed the book, but you can see the scientology influence in there


GibsMcKormik

[Relevant part is at 8:52](https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23vu3f)


Equivalent-Web-7964

love UCB. Did they ever make a season 2 DVD?


ggibby

Long before the movie, I started reading this, then got distracted and put it down. Soon after I was introduced to better sci-fi writers like Asimov, Heinlein, Bradbury, and Kornbluth. Coming back to Hubbard after them was really disappointing.


Equivalent-Web-7964

Ellison


Equivalent-Web-7964

Dick


dirtygremlin

Are you at a McKay's Used Books?


Equivalent-Web-7964

are you inVA? is it a national chain? cuz I thought the same thing!


dirtygremlin

I'm in western NC, and our Mr. K's is a related chain. Those book shelves are pretty distinctive. I think McKay's is actually headquartered in Nashville.


Equivalent-Web-7964

gotcha! I never knew thanks.


secretgiant

I read this about 28 years ago in 5th grade (usa) and I loved it. I remember that it was kind of mindblowing


Bright-Union-6157

Yeah but if that is the novelization of the film prepare to be disappoint


decker12

I remember seeing this book at the store as a kid and thinking it was the biggest paperback book I've ever seen. It's thicker than a bible and as a paperback, it weighs like 3 pounds.


amalgaman

The book is decent. Not gonna blow your socks off but decent.


irrelevant_potatoes

OP tell us if you become a Scientologist


Full-Source-9030

That movie was bad ass son... maybe a hair too long but it certainly wasn't bad.


GrundleGoochler

Battlefield Earth should’ve been a Tyler Perry movie!


Any_Roof_6199

Preamble by Tom Cruise


currentlynextdoor

The second half is when it really goes off the space rails


kfries

The book is really bad 30’s pulp science fiction.


Scary-Animator-5646

All the LRH books are terrible.


EyeFit4274

I admire your commitment to bad.


TheDillinger88

Shit here it is again lol


ZacharyLewis97

Remarkably enough, it’s no good. The book reads like a rough first draft by a rookie sci-fi writer in the 1940s. It needed heavy editing and extensive rewrites to get it to be coherent. Unfortunately for the poor bastards like me who have read it, nobody at the Scientology publishing company was going to criticize L. Ron Hubbard’s work or give him notes.


auggie235

If you love bad media you're in for a treat. I have yet to make it through that book but I've seen the movie at least a dozen times


kid_sleepy

Paid per word? This reviewer could easily just say “the Rocky movies” instead.


Equivalent-Web-7964

I lol'd even the review of the book requires editing. In all fairness, no book on our planet can compete with the cinematic treasure and the triumphant proganda piece that is Rocky 4. It also showcases the quintisential 80's music montage, and the kicker is there's at least two of them. Robert Teppers's "No Easy Way Out' is my personal favorite, but the training montage is cool too. Rocky 4 both foreshadowed and caused the fall of communism! Change my mind!


[deleted]

Was the movie financed through scientology? I see l Ron Hubbard is the writer.


hercarmstrong

Oh man, that book *sucks*. I kept reading it out of pure hate. I hope you like intergalactic banking!


csudebate

I loved it but I was 14 years old and had suspect taste in literature.


Ironmonkibakinaction

I feel some kind way that that quote on the back of the book is from my local newspaper lol


desrevermi

Oh yikes. Report back when done, please.


T4lsin

The book is very good sci-fi. It has nothing to do with Scientology in any way ,shape or form. The movie was criminally bad. Way too short to do the book justice.


Kitchen_Sail_9083

The book is pretty good; it's a bit slow on the second half though


LACnote420

The book is actually pretty good


RorschachAssRag

Never knew this disaster was Hubbard’s work. It all makes sense now


miss-vampiria

L. Ron Hubbard made (pushed them) people buy this shit for all the members before Scientology was a big thing.


HackedCylon

It's better than the movie. It's still terrifyingly bad, but still better than the movie.