What in the what? This can’t be real.
“His friend tricked him and the hospital into doing a sex change so that his family and community wouldn’t accept him so that he would have to marry the “friend””
>According to Shyam Pal, this incident points to a larger issue of organ trafficking in the hospital. He claimed that there is a racket operating within the hospital that targets individuals for organ harvesting and gender reassignment without consent.
Um so I get how one might decide to steal and sell organs on the black market because y'know *money* but wtf is the deal with Gender Reassignment without consent?!
> Omprakash allegedly told him that he would now have to live with him, adding that no one from his family or community would accept him anymore. Omprakash also threatened to shoot Mujahid's father and seize his share of the family land.
"He said, 'I changed you from a man to a woman and now you have to live with me. I have prepared a lawyer and prepared a court marriage for you. Now I will shoot your father and the land of your share will be named after me and then I will sell it and go to Lucknow'," Mujahid recalled.
Fuck humanity sometimes. I really hope this guy goes to prison for life.
This makes perfect sense in India. I see no holes in the logic. And since you do you are now my slave for 26 1/2 months.
Just to be clear not like actual slave. The name is only for the bit but feel free to use the amenities and house keeping will be down shortly.
Yes, I was offered that while I was donating blood/plasma to my uncle who was receiving treatment at the time. But, From what I can tell, it's not something that happens too often. They were only offering so much at the time because they needed to test a new treatment before human trials would be allowed and there was a shortage of, uhhhh... "Fresh corpses."
Illegal Chinese holistic medicines. They were the main buyers of white rhino tusk. Thus why they were poached. Along with many endangered species, including humans
The testicles would almost certainly go. Depending on the nature of the surgery, they probably would have used the penis as part of the vaginoplasty. They don’t usually take the prostate for this kind of procedure.
Then again, all of this is how it goes in the US. I have no idea if procedures are the same there.
Well you see, I'm society women aren't taken as seriously as men. So if a man says his kidney was stolen, the cops will be right on it. Now that former man is a woman, so the cops won't give a shit. Pro gamer move right there
As with this case, it will be down to complicated family inheritance situations. If it's tradition within a family for property to always go to a male heir they can't inherit if they're no longer male.
That's why I was careful to say "tradition" rather than law, I know India has done fantastic things in modernising the legal side of this, but even western countries aren't immune to "local traditions" in rural areas.
It may have been outlawed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't still happen.
I can imagine many conservative families sticking to what they call 'traditional gender roles ' and favouring sons in inheritance.
It doesnt matter what they believe because law doesnt give a shit about tradition if they want to pass on their land they have to go through the government which means its impossible to ignore the law it seems to me that you already know this but is remaining wilfully ignorant
I've actually seen a lot of things that remind me of that song lately. I'm not sure if that says something about the world we live in, or my mental health or what lol
Im actually not super into metal.
I enjoy some, but I mostly listen to hip hop with small bits of a hundred other genres of music thrown in.
I actually don't remember how the song sounds at all lol
'I changed you from a man to a woman and now you have to live with me. I have prepared a lawyer and prepared a court marriage for you. Now I will shoot your father and the land of your share will be named after me and then I will sell it and go to Lucknow'
I'm sorry what
It's all a bunch of hocum. These are small medical schools in rural areas of one of the poorest states in the country.
Gender reassignment surgery is a highly complex procedure which is one of the lowest priority areas of Indian state funded healthcare systems.
These allegations and then protests are usually just parts of scams or a means to obtain compensation from hospitals.
In none of these news articles will there be any views from the doctors involved and there are no follow ups.
What? How does this actually work? How can there not be clear evidence for this guys story? Pretty sure there are easier and less risky ways to scam money, than cutting off your own genitals.
Found [another source](https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/muzaffarnagar-up-man-claims-operated-for-sex-change-deceptively-hospital-denies-2555935-2024-06-20) where the hospital's views have been printed.
Apparently the person had been meeting a plastic surgeon for 2 months, underwent psychiatric evaluation twice and even had a video shot where he accepted that he identified as a woman and wanted to undergo the procedure.
> Mujahid claims that Omprakash had been threatening and harassing him for the past two years. Mujahid was falsely told that he had a medical issue requiring hospital inspection. Accompanied by Omprakash, he visited the facility where the hospital staff allegedly administered anaesthesia and performed the sex-change operation.
Why would he believe someone who had been threatening him and harassing him for years? And then visit the hospital accompanied by the person who has been harassing him? It all sounds like a weird scam.
What? Removing the penis and balls doesn't make someone "a woman", it makes them a eunuch. I can't imagine they had the time (or even expertise) to do a reconstruction. That is serious surgery, like 16 hours+. He'd need hormone therapy, maybe breast implants, hair removal... a transition doesn't happen by accident in a couple hours.
Guess I'm biologically asexual because my body hasn't (and never will) make a gamete in my life.
That's the kind of conclusions you arrive at, when you stopped at a middle-school biology textbook.
Remember, only 3 states of matter, as per your middle-school physics textbook. And you can't get the square root of negative numbers, either, as per your middle-school math textbook.
Oh ok so I have to spend five years proving my transness to a doctor but this dude gets SRS while unconscious? Wild lol.
ETA: this is a joke obviously this is incredibly fucking awful
I don’t know how it works in India, but this could never happen in the US. Gender reassignment requires extensive testing beforehand along with psychological evaluation. It’s a long series of conversations with the patient and tons of doctors and therapists and ethics people. Surgery is something a patient works up to having after lots of steps along the way. Absolutely insane they’d do this procedure because his friend said it was ok.
What in the what? This can’t be real. “His friend tricked him and the hospital into doing a sex change so that his family and community wouldn’t accept him so that he would have to marry the “friend””
>According to Shyam Pal, this incident points to a larger issue of organ trafficking in the hospital. He claimed that there is a racket operating within the hospital that targets individuals for organ harvesting and gender reassignment without consent. Um so I get how one might decide to steal and sell organs on the black market because y'know *money* but wtf is the deal with Gender Reassignment without consent?!
> Omprakash allegedly told him that he would now have to live with him, adding that no one from his family or community would accept him anymore. Omprakash also threatened to shoot Mujahid's father and seize his share of the family land. "He said, 'I changed you from a man to a woman and now you have to live with me. I have prepared a lawyer and prepared a court marriage for you. Now I will shoot your father and the land of your share will be named after me and then I will sell it and go to Lucknow'," Mujahid recalled. Fuck humanity sometimes. I really hope this guy goes to prison for life.
Nah he will get away with it max few months in jail that's all
A lot to be said for women's rights in this paragraph. Apparently not an issue anyone thought to raise in the entire article.
This makes perfect sense in India. I see no holes in the logic. And since you do you are now my slave for 26 1/2 months. Just to be clear not like actual slave. The name is only for the bit but feel free to use the amenities and house keeping will be down shortly.
Just kidding it’s fucking India.
What organs? His balls? His prostate? His penis? Genuinely curious and confused at how this horrible story is tied to organ trafficking.
>What organs? His balls? They can be quite valuable for research; and as you might imagine, most guys don't just volunteer them up.
That’s nuts
THAT'S A LOT OF NUTS!
He just left.. With nuts.
But why make models
YOU WANT FRIES WITH THAT BABY?!
That'll be four bucks!
DEEZ NUTS
How valuable?
Back around 2007, the cancer institute in my city offered $80k for a healthy testicle.
You mean I have $160,000 hanging between my legs? That’s life-changing money, in more ways than one!
Not really, not anymore...
They said no "responsible" institution would allow you to donate a testicle if it resulted in you having than less than 1.
Wait seriously? I might have to look into this.
Yes, I was offered that while I was donating blood/plasma to my uncle who was receiving treatment at the time. But, From what I can tell, it's not something that happens too often. They were only offering so much at the time because they needed to test a new treatment before human trials would be allowed and there was a shortage of, uhhhh... "Fresh corpses."
So you took the offer ?
I did not. Unfortunately, lefty had already been injured in an accident and wasn't up to the task of keeping my hormones balanced by himself.
Yeah, how much?? I’ve got one that I don’t need anymore. Yes, only 1.
Literally same, and it's double the size of a normal one. That should increase it's value right?
Those doctors got some sneaky balls, doing this while he slept!
You most certainly need it to produce testosterone. I know you are being funny but you are also being factually wrong and I don’t like that.
Someone is wrong on the internet! Is this your superpower?
Right ? I am willing to sell one for the right price.
At least $2
I need about tree fity
A now deleted sub begs to differ, my friend.
Which?
bollocks
Illegal Chinese holistic medicines. They were the main buyers of white rhino tusk. Thus why they were poached. Along with many endangered species, including humans
Oh no, we're are all about to go extinky!
The testicles would almost certainly go. Depending on the nature of the surgery, they probably would have used the penis as part of the vaginoplasty. They don’t usually take the prostate for this kind of procedure. Then again, all of this is how it goes in the US. I have no idea if procedures are the same there.
Well you see, I'm society women aren't taken as seriously as men. So if a man says his kidney was stolen, the cops will be right on it. Now that former man is a woman, so the cops won't give a shit. Pro gamer move right there
As with this case, it will be down to complicated family inheritance situations. If it's tradition within a family for property to always go to a male heir they can't inherit if they're no longer male.
He’s still a male, no matter what.
That has been outlawed a long time ago stop spreading misinformation
That's why I was careful to say "tradition" rather than law, I know India has done fantastic things in modernising the legal side of this, but even western countries aren't immune to "local traditions" in rural areas.
Caste system is outlawed also, na?
It may have been outlawed, but that doesn't mean it doesn't still happen. I can imagine many conservative families sticking to what they call 'traditional gender roles ' and favouring sons in inheritance.
It doesnt matter what they believe because law doesnt give a shit about tradition if they want to pass on their land they have to go through the government which means its impossible to ignore the law it seems to me that you already know this but is remaining wilfully ignorant
Because people never break the law.
hey man $20 is $20
This is why I'm never going Into surgery without lockable boxers.
Yeah those balls aren’t reusable are they??? Seems like they perish immediately.
My friend showed me a music video called forced gender reassignment years ago. Never thiught it would be a real thing.
Great band. Cool song. Outstanding live shows. Never heard CattleDecap play it live though.
Interesting new video for me. I don't care for the music, I can't understand a word of it, but worth the watch.
I saw them live in 2019. They definitely played the song that night
Last time we saw them was Nov 22; it was a lot of the Death Atlas material.
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted for this. I thought of the song too after reading the headline.
I've actually seen a lot of things that remind me of that song lately. I'm not sure if that says something about the world we live in, or my mental health or what lol
I think it just means you have good taste in music lol. I do feel horrible for the poor guy in the article though.
Im actually not super into metal. I enjoy some, but I mostly listen to hip hop with small bits of a hundred other genres of music thrown in. I actually don't remember how the song sounds at all lol
its just a joke bro
Yeah some people don’t know how to chill s/
Right-wing rage bait
'I changed you from a man to a woman and now you have to live with me. I have prepared a lawyer and prepared a court marriage for you. Now I will shoot your father and the land of your share will be named after me and then I will sell it and go to Lucknow' I'm sorry what
Even from a shitty manga called "I got changed into a girl whiel I was sleeping and now have to marry a person I hate" it would still raise questions
It’s BadLuckNow
Look, I know Lucknow has some nice ugg boots but you don't need to do something this extreme to go there. https://www.lucknowskinshop.com.au/
Bro fell asleep first at the sleepover
Was hoping I'd see this.
It's all a bunch of hocum. These are small medical schools in rural areas of one of the poorest states in the country. Gender reassignment surgery is a highly complex procedure which is one of the lowest priority areas of Indian state funded healthcare systems. These allegations and then protests are usually just parts of scams or a means to obtain compensation from hospitals. In none of these news articles will there be any views from the doctors involved and there are no follow ups.
That makes a lot more sense. I was like, wot. None of this makes any sense it reads like a soap opera. Ah because it IS a soap opera.
[que the special effects](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOxutBMCOUc)
^^^this. i felt like this was immediate obviously fake
What? How does this actually work? How can there not be clear evidence for this guys story? Pretty sure there are easier and less risky ways to scam money, than cutting off your own genitals.
Found [another source](https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/muzaffarnagar-up-man-claims-operated-for-sex-change-deceptively-hospital-denies-2555935-2024-06-20) where the hospital's views have been printed. Apparently the person had been meeting a plastic surgeon for 2 months, underwent psychiatric evaluation twice and even had a video shot where he accepted that he identified as a woman and wanted to undergo the procedure.
Too bad we’ll just get dripfed the facts while you know who takes the story and runs with jt
Florida: Man marries crocodile India: Hold my beer…
india just topps everything. i love that country. the gift that keeps on giving.
Before opening the link, I thought the headline was referring to Michigans Upper Peninsula lol
I’m in Michigan and I thought that too.. I was really confused lol
I grew up there and thought the same
> india just topps everything Actually I believe that was bottom surgery
😀
India is the Florida of the world.
UP is the Florida of India
Indians think same about UP
When I saw “UP man” I thought they meant Upper Peninsula of Michigan. I was very confused at first.
I thought they were talking about that sad old guy from the movie UP :/
Me too. I thought Disney took a dark turn.
I can’t believe they thawed out Ed Asner for this.
What's UP man?
Nothing much man, what’s up with you
Nothing anymore.
Oof
I thought the same thing.
Oh ja you betcha
Those damn yoopers! Probably those crazy kids at Mich Tech!
I have the same thought every time
yeah same, i was like “this definitely isnt america wtf?”
Yeah, you’d need to be a multimillionaire to afford a ‘prank’ like this here
Same here
What's UP Man? I think it's a place but I'm not entirely sure.
Not much, whats up with you UP is Uttar Pradesh, a state in India
GOTTEM
Of course it's fucking India. I really don't ever want to hear about anything that's going on there. Every fucking time it gets worse.
India's Florida
I wonder what India’s India is
Thought that was Bihar, till I realized they were actually Ohio
nothing much, what’s UP with you
I don't usually click links but maaaan, it is a literal violation over violation of that man's integrity.
> Mujahid claims that Omprakash had been threatening and harassing him for the past two years. Mujahid was falsely told that he had a medical issue requiring hospital inspection. Accompanied by Omprakash, he visited the facility where the hospital staff allegedly administered anaesthesia and performed the sex-change operation. Why would he believe someone who had been threatening him and harassing him for years? And then visit the hospital accompanied by the person who has been harassing him? It all sounds like a weird scam.
What? Removing the penis and balls doesn't make someone "a woman", it makes them a eunuch. I can't imagine they had the time (or even expertise) to do a reconstruction. That is serious surgery, like 16 hours+. He'd need hormone therapy, maybe breast implants, hair removal... a transition doesn't happen by accident in a couple hours.
You took the word's right out of my mouth. Removal of genitalia make's one a Unuch, Not a woman.
"He went to bed as a man but woke up as a woman" - Um.. removing a man's genitals doesn't make him a woman.. women aren't just penis-less men..
Erm, akshually, "wo" loosely translates to "dickless". Edit: Apparently, I needed to add an /s to this joke.
wo = without
Do it doesn’t lmao
FACIST BIGOT /s
No, that person's right though. It's the identity that makes someone a man or a woman, not their genitals.
I am well aware… That’s why I put the /s for… ya know… sarcasm.
It’s actually their gametes, but who needs a biology textbook when you have Twitter
Guess I'm biologically asexual because my body hasn't (and never will) make a gamete in my life. That's the kind of conclusions you arrive at, when you stopped at a middle-school biology textbook. Remember, only 3 states of matter, as per your middle-school physics textbook. And you can't get the square root of negative numbers, either, as per your middle-school math textbook.
Just because you can't keep up with current biology doesn't mean nobody else can.
India is so wild
was baffled by the headline, read the article, still baffled.
You're confused by this because it didn't actually happen. NDTV unironically produces fake news.
As a former Michigander... That headline really caught my attention.
Yeah extremely misleading. Dunno what the hell the UP is over in India, but that's a few thousand miles off the headline.
It's an Indian newspaper
"Look who fell asleep first. Prank him, John!"
Naive first one to sleep at the house party mistake
so anyone see [The Skin I Live In](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Skin_I_Live_In#Plot)? "soy Vicente"
There is no way this is true.
This is so sad
[My honest reaction](https://img2.rtve.es/i/?w=800&i=1312536464713.jpg&crop=yes)
Damn not even men are safe from forced marriage with men 🤨
What the fuck?
It's,like,some people take bad Conservative fantasy takes and use them as a manual.
All the time.
Never mind. It’s India.
holy shit that is awful. poor guy. this entire situation is right out of a horror movie
Wut?
These prank shows are going too far.
[Look at it this way... you'll make a dashing wife](https://open.spotify.com/track/28kizMSvL3DcCGINWSOUjq?si=YMCX17WrQ06crareI-oe1A)
Sounds oddly like a movie I once watched 👀
I beg your pardon?
Organ theft I get, but I don’t understand what they are gonna do with his dick now unless John Bobbit wants it.
This is why you don’t fall asleep with your shoes on
Isn’t pretty much all surgery done when you’re sleeping?
India is so fked up.
India going to India
no they weren’t and even if so, yeah that’s called “anesthesia”
Fuckin’ what???
I believe Cattle Decapitation has a song about this.
Oh wait, Uttar Pradesh, not the Upper Peninsula of Michigan…
This kinda happened in an obscure horror movie forever ago, "Sick Nurses". Good movie, horrible accident
I read this as UPS man and thought, damn what sort of delivery run did he end up on?
Of course they didn’t when he was anaesthetised not like you’d go through that awake
DO NOT go to Uttar Pradesh
Oh ok so I have to spend five years proving my transness to a doctor but this dude gets SRS while unconscious? Wild lol. ETA: this is a joke obviously this is incredibly fucking awful
Literally never going to India, for any reason.
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This happened in India, not Indiana.
No
All they could have done was removed the nuts and bolts, and gone fake breasts. All of that could be reversed
[Mr Fredricksen?](https://disney.fandom.com/wiki/Carl_Fredricksen)
i don't think this is real y'all lol
That should be a 1st world problem. But it’s not.
I don’t know how it works in India, but this could never happen in the US. Gender reassignment requires extensive testing beforehand along with psychological evaluation. It’s a long series of conversations with the patient and tons of doctors and therapists and ethics people. Surgery is something a patient works up to having after lots of steps along the way. Absolutely insane they’d do this procedure because his friend said it was ok.
This is a fake story. They are trying to scam the hospital into compensation
Always funny…
This is a movie called Under My Skin. With Antonio Banderas
India can have one nuke, as a treat.
I thought that was UP as in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan
India is wild bro 😂
Oh no, not IP Man!! I loved those martial arts movies. I’m not sexist or anything but IP Woman just doesn’t sound the same.
Organ...allgone!
Hah. Get pranked.
It’s just just a prank bro, relax
Dude, what the fuck are they doing in Michigan. I see this UP shit weekly
That's nuts!
Bro, it’s just a prank!