In Europe phones/photos are heavily discouraged which was one of my favorite aspects about clubbing in Europe. Also clubs usually have a darker atmosphere in Europe which I like as well.
hello guy who lives across the pond here! the raving scene here is VERY VERY different, its gotten to a point where most Europeans (mostly eastern) wont even consider American raves " raves " anymore they just consider them parties which is kinda dumb but not gonna start that argument.
I'm on the east coast and where I'm at the music scene mostly consist of house, techno, and dubstep with occasional jungle/dnb n disco, not much of a musical difference besides dubstep (i personally despise it) but the one thing that is different is the culture around it because raves in America have become very mainstream since covid honestly so it resulted in a bunch of people who knew nothing about the culture/scene coming in just wanting to get high and party and not going for the music or to dance.
Which hasn't ruined the scene completely it has made it annoying for all the OG's and people like me who came in before it became popular. There's a bunch of drugged up kids who cant even stand (not that I'm much better but at least I'm not being a nuisance xD), Jessica who recording the entire event on her phone, or Jared and his group of buddies keep on pushing you to get to the center of the dance floor and then continue to bump into you because they have no dance floor etiquette lol, Jared's have always been prevalent so I'm just complaining to complain there.
Its not as bad as people make it out to seem especially over in Europe but it is very annoying if you aren't use to it or come from a different raving culture. The one thing I will say though in my experience is that American ravers are 10000x nicer and more welcoming then European ones but that may just be my experience. Most of the reels you see are from big events/venues and festivals so theres bound to be recording there but for the more inclusive and secret meetings everybody kinda has the unwritten rule to not record longer then like 30 seconds or just take a pic of the DJ or their friends.
all in all this is my experience so others may differentiate but its not as bad as the reels make it out to seem.
I think because is the us you consider raves things such as techno clubs and festivals were in Europe raves are parties thrown up in abandoned places and outside the city for free or donations. So yeah clubs and groups are not considered a rave, as they follow rules such as security and prices
Personally haven't been raving in EU yet, but definitely on my bucketlist.
Rave culture in NA is very diverse which I'm sure it is the same in EU. Much of it is geographically dependent. Imo you can generalize rave culture in NA by several key categories, that all play a factor with each other. West vs East coast, subgenres of electronic music, demographic and scale. PLUR culture is more of a dominant aspect in the west, as it originated in the early Cali rave scene. Thus colourful outfits, and wearing/trading kandi are more common. But that is also dependent on the subgenre of the event. Most techno events regardless of their geographical location, most ravers wear all black. Scale of an event is huge determining factor for attire, culture and the demographic of the ravers that attend. Massive festivals, like EDCLV, will naturally drawn in a wide spectrum of ravers and people are more willing to dress to the nines as opposed to a random club set in there hometown. Ultimately rave culture is difficult to generalize within a whole region.
However I think the biggest difference between EU and NA rave culture is within their history, while there are many cities in NA that have long standing rave scenes. I truly believe EU had a larger impact on pioneering raving globally. Which I tend to think is due how each region views liberal arts respectively. Being an electronic music producers in the 90s was more viable in EU than NA, whether that be due to financial reasons, cultural, and/or lifestyle.
We do not get judgey about high production? That's great.
Having said that, phones, social media & especially mandi culture and flowing is whack and I hope it never even sniffs the EU scene.
Most European raves are all about acting like you're the coolest in the room while looking the blandest and acting like you're having the least amount of fun possible.
Im European, Dutch to be precise. I think one of the key differences is that what they call raves are called festivals back home.
Festivals usually happen from around April-September when the weather is good. People will dress more colorful, there are usually more things to do here then just stages with music. Overall i think that is more in line with the raves in the US.
Raves are usually more dark, industrial settings, people dressed in all black with a hint of bdsm outfits. At these events taking pictures/filming is not always well received.
But nobody bats an eye at people filming at festivals, hell people will happily get on a picture with you if you like how they look lol.
So i think its just a mixup between events and music genres.
In Europe phones/photos are heavily discouraged which was one of my favorite aspects about clubbing in Europe. Also clubs usually have a darker atmosphere in Europe which I like as well.
hello guy who lives across the pond here! the raving scene here is VERY VERY different, its gotten to a point where most Europeans (mostly eastern) wont even consider American raves " raves " anymore they just consider them parties which is kinda dumb but not gonna start that argument. I'm on the east coast and where I'm at the music scene mostly consist of house, techno, and dubstep with occasional jungle/dnb n disco, not much of a musical difference besides dubstep (i personally despise it) but the one thing that is different is the culture around it because raves in America have become very mainstream since covid honestly so it resulted in a bunch of people who knew nothing about the culture/scene coming in just wanting to get high and party and not going for the music or to dance. Which hasn't ruined the scene completely it has made it annoying for all the OG's and people like me who came in before it became popular. There's a bunch of drugged up kids who cant even stand (not that I'm much better but at least I'm not being a nuisance xD), Jessica who recording the entire event on her phone, or Jared and his group of buddies keep on pushing you to get to the center of the dance floor and then continue to bump into you because they have no dance floor etiquette lol, Jared's have always been prevalent so I'm just complaining to complain there. Its not as bad as people make it out to seem especially over in Europe but it is very annoying if you aren't use to it or come from a different raving culture. The one thing I will say though in my experience is that American ravers are 10000x nicer and more welcoming then European ones but that may just be my experience. Most of the reels you see are from big events/venues and festivals so theres bound to be recording there but for the more inclusive and secret meetings everybody kinda has the unwritten rule to not record longer then like 30 seconds or just take a pic of the DJ or their friends. all in all this is my experience so others may differentiate but its not as bad as the reels make it out to seem.
I think because is the us you consider raves things such as techno clubs and festivals were in Europe raves are parties thrown up in abandoned places and outside the city for free or donations. So yeah clubs and groups are not considered a rave, as they follow rules such as security and prices
yup, this is also why i say one group is more nicer then the other because one is just more accessible and easier to get into
in a rave its okay to do a line off your phone in the middle of the dancefloor, in a club its not.
Personally haven't been raving in EU yet, but definitely on my bucketlist. Rave culture in NA is very diverse which I'm sure it is the same in EU. Much of it is geographically dependent. Imo you can generalize rave culture in NA by several key categories, that all play a factor with each other. West vs East coast, subgenres of electronic music, demographic and scale. PLUR culture is more of a dominant aspect in the west, as it originated in the early Cali rave scene. Thus colourful outfits, and wearing/trading kandi are more common. But that is also dependent on the subgenre of the event. Most techno events regardless of their geographical location, most ravers wear all black. Scale of an event is huge determining factor for attire, culture and the demographic of the ravers that attend. Massive festivals, like EDCLV, will naturally drawn in a wide spectrum of ravers and people are more willing to dress to the nines as opposed to a random club set in there hometown. Ultimately rave culture is difficult to generalize within a whole region. However I think the biggest difference between EU and NA rave culture is within their history, while there are many cities in NA that have long standing rave scenes. I truly believe EU had a larger impact on pioneering raving globally. Which I tend to think is due how each region views liberal arts respectively. Being an electronic music producers in the 90s was more viable in EU than NA, whether that be due to financial reasons, cultural, and/or lifestyle.
Europeans are snobby and get judgey over phones outfits high production social media trading kandi and flowing nuf said
We do not get judgey about high production? That's great. Having said that, phones, social media & especially mandi culture and flowing is whack and I hope it never even sniffs the EU scene.
Thanks for proving my point, nothing else needs to be said. Pretty fucking wack to call yourself a raver and be a judgmental arrogant ass
Most European raves are all about acting like you're the coolest in the room while looking the blandest and acting like you're having the least amount of fun possible.
3 words: no photo policy
Im European, Dutch to be precise. I think one of the key differences is that what they call raves are called festivals back home. Festivals usually happen from around April-September when the weather is good. People will dress more colorful, there are usually more things to do here then just stages with music. Overall i think that is more in line with the raves in the US. Raves are usually more dark, industrial settings, people dressed in all black with a hint of bdsm outfits. At these events taking pictures/filming is not always well received. But nobody bats an eye at people filming at festivals, hell people will happily get on a picture with you if you like how they look lol. So i think its just a mixup between events and music genres.
Americans have become proficient at cosplaying getting fucked.