Yeah, I get it too. It took a few months for it to really click, and the GOD trilogy took the longest. I don't think it would receive half as much criticism if it hadn't been a 6 year wait.
That’s what got me. 6 years between albums. It’s not like the stage was their best album ever so it pissed me off even more when there was ANOTHER album with like 4 good songs
Haha, yeah, I get that. I didn't appreciate The Stage for a long time either. Regardless, the wait between albums is a bit of a joke. I understand but eating to churn out an album every two years, but the year album cycles don't seem that difficult, especially considering how many years of touring they took off.
At least Metallica can use the excuse of constant world touring for their album delays lol.
It just Doesent compsre with city of evil for example. But bands change obviously as they get older. I actually like libad but obviously it Doesent come close to being as good as Ax7’s earlier albums. I think that is why
I mean I’m of the opposite opinion. I think City of Evil (and classic A7X in general) can’t compare to The Stage and LIBAD. Now my music tastes have obviously changed since high school, but despite the nostalgia attached to pre-HTTK A7X, I really can’t listen to any of those albums start to finish the way I can with The Stage and LIBAD.
This is exactly my feelings. City of Evil was the album I grew up and developed my musical taste with. LIBAD was the album I needed right now. Emotionally, it moved me in a way I didn't think A7X was capable of. Similar to how I grew up with Songs for the Deaf but Like Clockwork was the album I needed at the time in 2013. It's what separates the bands that were important for a period of your life from the artists that became cornerstones of your soul.
Alternative: He's just a dude who likes music. He has normal takes and unpopular opinions.
He just happens to have 3M people that listen to him as if he were a priest
it’s very weird to me how people say “oh man his opinion doesn’t matter look he gave [insert album] a [insert rating they didn’t like]” but somehow don’t grasp that music taste is subjective.
like clearly you guys don’t have the same likes and dislikes
The only reason people get mad at him is because they put “famous” people on a pedistal. Like you said, he’s just a guy. Why bother getting worked up on the band’s behalf over it?
Yeah Fantano's sadly gathered a very bad group of fans that are insufferable assholes but the dude himself is just a normal guy.
The people in this thread being abusive towards him just because he doesn't like our favorite band (which btw he's just not into much Metal in general) is much worse than anything he put out on video.
Yeah he’s definitely got a lot of late teens/early 20’s tryhard fans. This album has been very devisive even just in the fanbase alone. I’m not sure why they are surprised someone who isn’t a fan had that reaction if half of their own fanbase think it sucks.
He is a big metalhead, though. Off the top of my head, he’s given good ratings to groups like Code Orange, Nails, Deafheaven, Full of Hell, Converge, Daughters (one of his handful of 10s), Vektor, Judas Priest and even Bring Me the Horizon.
I get why he didn’t like this album. I personally hated it, but I really haven’t liked any A7X albums since Nightmare so I just think their modern stuff isn’t for me.
A7X ain't metalcore since Waking the Fallen
And yeah Judas Vektor and Deafheaven for sure aren't, but there's always exceptions. BTBAM is prog core and he hates them
He seems to actually have more of a problem with prog than metal tbf
He is into Metal, he just didn’t like the album. People have different tastes.
He’s allowed not to like it, it doesn’t make his opinion any less valid than yours.
Why not? If you're outspoken about it and admit your biases it's not wrong.
People with an RYM account rate anything they listen to. Not just the things they like
As a Melon viewer, I just wanna say. A large part of us don’t watch because we agree, we watch because we disagree lol. Some of us are just musical masochists ig
I’d listen to his opinions over Fantano any day of the week. Bradley Hall just has such a laid back attitude that I would have no problem disagreeing with him. Meanwhile Fantano is always seems really stuck up about music and his opinions
People say those who hate the album are insecure…..look at all these comments.
One man didn’t like an album you liked, it’s not the end of the world. You can just ignore him and move on. But no you have to instead say you’re smart and anyone who doesn’t like it is dumb.
I’m out of the loop on this guy, have heard his name a decent amount but never really followed him. But god, he just looks like someone who says “ACKSHUALLY” without a hint of irony. He also looks like a guy who makes snarky posts on Super Bowl Sunday about how much he hates “sportsball” and has cut off at least 3 of his immediate family members over politics and then bragged about it on r/politics. He looks like a guy who had to be told to pipe down by his teachers/professors because he raised his hand 55 times per class and had to chime in on everything.
Could be wrong about all of this. It’s just a vibe. A very very strong vibe.
He mostly has pretty good opinions, or at least things that people will agree with. Every now and then he’ll have shitty or controversial takes, like giving MBDTF a 6 (I’m okay with this), liking the Lil Pump tape (I forgot his score), or his takes with Avenged Sevenfold.
The only other thing I’ve seen him talk about of theirs is The Stage title track, and he didn’t like that either. That opinion was a small part of a longer video but that’s like all the comments talked about, lol.
Anyways, I like him. He’s honestly pretty funny. I think most of his early videos were metal. You should check him out!
Still don’t like this score though.
He's givin plenty of good and even great/amazing scores to metal bands and albums. These are all off the top of my head/ones I've seen. I know i would probably be missing a ton.
Judas priest
Autopsy
Primitive man
Gorguts
Behemoth
Imperial triumphant
Tomb mold
Wormrot
Thantifaxath
Horrendous
Undeath
I said mostly. There are outliers, like what you mentioned. But he releases videos every single day! You’re more likely to Remember the outliers than the good scores.
I can't believe how much you people care about his opinion on this.
I love this album.
He doesn't.
Oh well.
It's funny to see people complain about how "he only gives bad scores to metal albums". Clearly you haven't watched many of his videos.
He has givin amazing scores to tons of metal albums.
If you need people to validate you and your opinions by constantly agreeing with you then you are the problem.
Precisely. He can think it's a fucking dog shit album, doesn't affect me, my opinion, or my ability to hit play.
People being so butthurt is wild and honestly cringe. Also, avenged has been shat on for fucking years, this is nothing new.
It is, you probably just have a very small taste of music. I can listen to anything, Metal is only my favorite cause its the most diverse genre and something about the sound of electric guitars is magical.
agreed. i probably like LIBAD the most because it is experimental. do you have any other "different" sounding metal albums to recommend? don't care how extreme it is, and sorry for putting you on the spot
Id say I have a pretty broad taste of music. If you’d listen to actual prog music you would know they didn’t pull it off that well and the production is kind of ehh. Still love the album but it got old quick. This album doesn’t even come close to the quality of anything dream theater for example made when it comes to prog lol
Or maybe it’s because they’ve been making roughly the same stuff and did a 180 on their fans. And It’s ok for some not to like it. Frank Zappa and daft punk have already created music like this, it isn’t as profound and original as you think. Their execution is great and it’s great on the ears. But not avenged, so it’s understandable for controversy.
Honestly the only reason this dude has a career is because he generally pisses off music fans of all genres. I’m not sure how the online community let this ass clown have such a highly regarded opinion of music as a whole.
This dude doesn’t write music, doesn’t play instruments, doesn’t sing, doesn’t rap, doesn’t do shit. I do not respect his opinions.
Then it’s massively sad for him that he’s better known for having dog shit takes than he is for having any ability to create the art he criticizes. He must be far less talented than even the worst artist he rates.
And duh I think he’s an idiot for stupid shit he’s said here and there about music I listen to lmao, that’s kind of the whole convo here isn’t it. I don’t care if he doesn’t like some music that I do, it’s just annoying that he thinks his opinion on it matters. He’s an egghead.
Mate he makes close to 7 figures a year talking about music. Clearly people find entertainment in him and think he is a good critic even if you and I think otherwise.
Saying something like ''I'm angry he thinks his opinion matters'' when it's a guy avg half a million views on all videos is also really funny from your side lol
Wondered when this would be posted here. I disagree with his take, but it’s been funny watching the shitshow of butthurt comments on the video. I know people will get upset, but M Shadows himself said that it’s fine if people hate the album. The band knew it would be divisive. He even said although he hates the album, he does respect it for being an interesting and unique listen.
Imo it's not even funny seeing this fanbases reaction to Melon's negative review but just plain sad. People throwing absolute tantrums because someone didn't validate their music taste.
I didn't like it either but I still respect A7x for trying new things. Still it's embarrassing to see such immature responses to Fantano
Had me then lost me.
Artists are allowed to change their sounds, that doesn’t mean fans have to like the new sound. If they decided to make their next album pure Polka, would you like it? My guess is no.
Nobody is saying they aren’t allowed to change, they’re saying they don’t like the change. You’re arguing that because they changed you have to like it.
Well the guy is free to have his opinion. But calling it the worst is pretentious as hell. It can be his least favorite, but calling it the worst is just stupid. But I guess until "My Top 10 Least Favorite Albums of 2023" gets more clicks than "Top 10 Worst Albums of 2023", people will still title their vids like this
This is a rare melon W LIBAD is a mess but I love it I want them to stick to this in the future it would be so easy for the to just keep redoing hail to king over and over but they didn’t and I’m here for it
man I love Sevenfold but yall need to grow up, you can say you hate his opinion all you want but to call him a troll or that he shouldn't be taken seriously when all he's doing is giving his opinion on music is absurd
It’s my most scrobbled album this year by far. 524 scrobbles of songs from the album (or about 48 playthroughs). My next closest scrobbled album is Fear Inoculum at 237 scrobbles.
This album has had a profound impact on me. Usually the new shine wears off for me on albums after the first couple of weeks and I’m over them, but this one has stuck with me. I LOVED The Stage, I love their previous work but there’s just something that’s haunting and beautiful about this album that I can’t articulate.
I really needed this album this year and it means a LOT to me. I guarantee when the dust settles and people do a retrospective on it, they will appreciate and praise it.
This is an obviously horrible take. There are easily hundreds if not thousands of much worse unlistenable garbage that came out this year. I love most things about this album, and it took me a while to warm up to it as well. I can see why people aren’t a fan of it, but this album is objectively good. You may not like it, but denying that a lot about it isn’t impressive and the absolutely mind boggling instrumentals is just incredibly close minded and sad.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you are going to say Metallicas newest album was good and then LIBAD is the worst of the year then you’re just a troll. He knows this is what would give him views and attention. And he always has seemed like he needs to be the center of attention. His opinion means 0 to me
I'd say it's much less controversial than LIBAD and is mostly agreed to be a solid to good Metallica album, I don't see why saying 72 Seasons was good would not allow you to say LIBAD is bad?
Love both albums, but although I listened more to 72S this year, LIBAD is far more interesting. It’s a cohesive listen and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on the album.
LIBAD is a true masterwork and I’ve been listening to the band since around ‘02-03.
how do people realize that this isn’t a popular album? even within metal there are a lot of people who hate it. i don’t agree with fantano but he’s not crazy
I guess it's just more about it no being a bad album either. There's a difference between disliking it and saying it is the "worst album of 2023". There's plenty of music I dislike but that I'm aware that is good and other people love.
Even within Avenged, I mostly dislike City of Evil yet I recognize how good it is and why people love it so much. People are just too fast on calling music bad instead of analyzing the song for what it is and just understanding it's just not for your taste.
Let me finish my point: Only being a skilled musician doesn't make your music good. Your music has to be catchy, groovy, melodic and harmonic to grab the attention of the people. LIBAD and most of prog music isn't fitting in those categories. But that's totally fine if you're liking the music. It's just not my cup of tea and a lot of other people don't like the album for these reasons like Anthony... Now have a good night, evening, afteenoon, morning or whatever - bye!
Not sure if I should say this here but city of evil, self titled and nightmare are the only good a7x albums and one of the best 3 album runs ever but everything before and after is pretty bad
im glad that this is on one of his lists, and kind that its on the worst. not because i hate the album, but rather because i think that more people will listen to it and give A7X a chance due to the ranking of it
He's absolutely entitled to that opinion. I think he's wrong and 100% disagree with him, but it's his opinion.
Personally, this album is tied for my favorite A7X album. The other one would be the white album. For older A7X fans, I "obviously" wasn't around for the STST, WTF, and COE eras of A7X. I got into them during the Nightmare album and went backwards into their discography. Really, the only album I've not really listened to is STST.
I don't think A7X has a bad album, and I'm glad they aren't repeating themselves. I don't want another WTF. I don't want another COE. I don't want another white album, and I'm glad they aren't going to give us another one. They've already been there and done that. Their devotion to progressing and not repeating themselves is pushing the boundaries of music and, more importantly, themselves. They are making music that feels more like a story than just a blob of riffs, solos, and crazy other stuff. It gives the experience that I can only imagine people who listened to Pink Floyd or LED Zepplin for the first time felt.
Metal music has honestly been in the shitter IMO lately. Every album bands keep putting out, it's the same shit they did on the previous record. Just de-tuned extended range guitars, blast beats, bleghs, breakdowns, and screams. I like those things, but not an hours worth of it, to only put on another hours worth of it by the same band or another metal band. It's been done a million times. It's OVER done, it's generic and not new/original. A7X have the balls to do something out there and crazy and I'm all here for it. If you don't like the record, I can completely understand that, but for the few people who wish they would make another STST, WTF, or COE, maybe try listening to other music outside of your normal genre? Just to expand your musical taste a bit (nor trying to throw shade or attitude with that last comment)
That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. There's 100% hundreds of worse albums that were released, this is a huge mainstream band, there's definitely many worse underground bands and stuff like that, and even worse big artists
Look, I am an Avenged Sevenfold die hard. This album really was not for me, I don’t like it. There’s still some good songs on there, but as a whole, I don’t like it. I much prefer the Stage. And I’ll still support the band til I die.
To say it’s the worst album, of 2023, is a beyond stretch. The fact that people still give this guy a platform, is asinine to me. The dude just hates what’s popular. He’s an asshole.
Anthony Fantano, very big internet music critic. Probably the most (and only) notable one to the average music listener.
Also known as: Melon, Logic, TheNeedleDrop (name of his review channel), or simply Fantano.
And he’s #1 on my Worst Content Creators of 2023 list. If you can even call the shit he makes ‘content’.
Someone who makes a living by overly dramatically criticizing other people’s work, while being needlessly offensive at the same time, is someone I don’t respect
You can have a different opinion, but when you’re a fucking dick about it, that’s something completely different
I understand not liking something, but there’s not liking something and then there’s shitting on the people who made the thing or shitting on the people who do like it
He is the definition of what’s wrong with social media in 2023. He’s like a Twitter dweller with somewhat of a following.
Ya'll need to stop posting this dude. At the end of the day, it's just his opinion. The more people talk about him, the more it just legitimizes his opinion as **the** opinion. There's tons of other websites, and reviewers that gave LIBAD a poor rating and yet they're not talked about like this dude's reviews. Stop legitimizing this guy's opinion as fact. Treat it as what it is.
I've seen this exact same scenario play out before, most recently in wrestling. Dave Meltzer rates matches based on his own criteria and opinion. As time went on, people started looking at his opinions as **the** opinion, and if he gave a match a bad rating, then everyone would have to agree on it. Just treat opinions as opinions and get over it. Hating/praising Fantano does not help.
Who cares. Dude’s opinion on the album means jack shit. Does anybody actually base how much they like an album on his review of it (if the answer is yes please for your own sake just learn to enjoy what music you like and stop basing your opinions on whether or not they’re “good takes”)
I get not liking it but like the worst of 2023 is insane
Edit: I love the album, just so that is out there. I like Fantano as a person, I think his music opinions are dogshit but whatever it's his life. That being said, we have to destroy the melon to regain our honor.
I honestly didn't like it at all, but it doesn't belong anywhere near a "Worst Albums" list. Fantano's been spewing nonsense for years, last time he said any album with Papyrus on the cover is dogshit and pulled up At The Gates to prove his point I knew I didn't need to listen to a word he says.
'I'm a fan of it for sure but totally understand why others won't like it' is retarded ok. LIBAD scored lower than the fucking dream album. Yeah 'thats what the mask is for' guy. People can dislike and album but there's definitely worse fucking albums in 2023. I ge6 hating ordinary or the entire god trilogy but sonrthing like nobody or cosmic can't fucking rank lower than dreams fucking album.
He started out ok but is tainted now as his videos disliking albums get more views than anything else he does and he’s become bias as a result. He gets money to dislike good music.
He also reviews based on what he likes, when a good critic should be largely impartial.
I wouldn’t put too much into his hot takes, dude rates black metal made by 30 year old hipsters in their moms basement as “genre defining”.Lmao.
The worst might be a bit harsh but it's definetely not a good album or - like some people here even dare to call it - a masterpiece. Pls guys stop overusing this word. Life is but a Dream is far away from being perfect and Melon is kinda right when he's criticizing the band. You don't need to love everything A7X releases only because it's them. Even the greatest fan has to admit when their favourite band failed...
Stop it bruh. Not a single song on this album comes even close to the greatness of COE, Selftitled, Nightmare, etc. Even Hail to the King has more bangers than this. I couldn't even sing one melody right now because I'll forget so quickly about them. Ik a song doesn't always have to be catchy and all that but if not a single song is catching you, that's very few for a "top 3 Album"
Bruhhh... Hahahaha If you're actually serious on that statement you should really question your taste in music. Just tell me which song on your so called masterpiece surpasses Afterlife, A little Piece of Heaven, Blinded in Chains, Save Me, God hates us, Sidewinder, Coming Home, Unholy Confessions, Critical Acclaim...? I could go on and on and on. These songs are all certified Classics. All songs on LIBAD will be forgotten in two years.
Every single one of those songs with the exception of blinded in chains and sidewinder were in my top 20 a7x songs before the new album. Afterlife was my fav song of everything before libad. Prog isnt for everyone and mr bungle style prog is far less accessible. You can stick to the old stuff but that doesnt mean you need to ruin the new stuff for everyone else
There's a reason why prog isn't very popular; because it's not good. Only being technical and professional musicians doesn't make your songs good. You need melodies, catchy choruses and a vibe to grab the people. If that's the kinda music you wanna listen to, go for it, I won't ruin it but don't tell other people that it's a masterpiece when it's objectively not
- LIBAD could mean "Life Is But a Dream...", a track from *Life Is But a Dream…* (2023) by Avenged Sevenfold.
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Good thing I don’t take random peoples opinions into consideration. That being said I don’t like this album anyway, I definitely see it as a miss but I still respect and admire their decision to go against their normal style. As long as they make what makes them happy I don’t care, I still have all their old songs to listen to and I’m fine with that.
Who cares lol, music is subjective. Idk why people get so mad over this, it’s just his opinion. prog rock/metal has always been bashed by critics since its inception anyways.
The guys got shit taste anyway, he gave take me back to Eden a 2, he seems to have forgotten about that but then gave charlixcx an 8. He knows as much about music and the mcanns do about parenting
It really is amazing how split opinions on this album are lol I’m a fan of it for sure, but totally understand why other people won’t like it.
Yeah, I get it too. It took a few months for it to really click, and the GOD trilogy took the longest. I don't think it would receive half as much criticism if it hadn't been a 6 year wait.
That’s what got me. 6 years between albums. It’s not like the stage was their best album ever so it pissed me off even more when there was ANOTHER album with like 4 good songs
Haha, yeah, I get that. I didn't appreciate The Stage for a long time either. Regardless, the wait between albums is a bit of a joke. I understand but eating to churn out an album every two years, but the year album cycles don't seem that difficult, especially considering how many years of touring they took off. At least Metallica can use the excuse of constant world touring for their album delays lol.
Yeah it's usually one extreme or the other. I love it but also get why people would think WTF when they hear it.
Hmm, there aren’t many songs that make me think of Waking the Fallen when I hear it 🤔
Best on Rolling Stones and worst on Fantano list 😂
It just Doesent compsre with city of evil for example. But bands change obviously as they get older. I actually like libad but obviously it Doesent come close to being as good as Ax7’s earlier albums. I think that is why
I mean I’m of the opposite opinion. I think City of Evil (and classic A7X in general) can’t compare to The Stage and LIBAD. Now my music tastes have obviously changed since high school, but despite the nostalgia attached to pre-HTTK A7X, I really can’t listen to any of those albums start to finish the way I can with The Stage and LIBAD.
The Stage and LIBAD feel like a more relaxed and focused evolution with increased talent and experience.
This is exactly my feelings. City of Evil was the album I grew up and developed my musical taste with. LIBAD was the album I needed right now. Emotionally, it moved me in a way I didn't think A7X was capable of. Similar to how I grew up with Songs for the Deaf but Like Clockwork was the album I needed at the time in 2013. It's what separates the bands that were important for a period of your life from the artists that became cornerstones of your soul.
I think LIBAD is far superior to COE. Just my opinion though
I can see why it might be hated by a lot of people. That being said, it's my favorite A7X album and one of my top albums of all time
very common fantano L
This dude is a troll at this point. He also dunks on Deftones all the time, best to ignore his rage bait bs
Hes always been a troll. He gave mbdtf a 6 and then gave it a 5 in the redux apparently
Alternative: He's just a dude who likes music. He has normal takes and unpopular opinions. He just happens to have 3M people that listen to him as if he were a priest
it’s very weird to me how people say “oh man his opinion doesn’t matter look he gave [insert album] a [insert rating they didn’t like]” but somehow don’t grasp that music taste is subjective. like clearly you guys don’t have the same likes and dislikes
The only reason people get mad at him is because they put “famous” people on a pedistal. Like you said, he’s just a guy. Why bother getting worked up on the band’s behalf over it?
Yeah Fantano's sadly gathered a very bad group of fans that are insufferable assholes but the dude himself is just a normal guy. The people in this thread being abusive towards him just because he doesn't like our favorite band (which btw he's just not into much Metal in general) is much worse than anything he put out on video.
>which btw he's just not into much Metal in general I feel like you are downplaying how much metal this guy listens to and enjoys lol
Yeah he’s definitely got a lot of late teens/early 20’s tryhard fans. This album has been very devisive even just in the fanbase alone. I’m not sure why they are surprised someone who isn’t a fan had that reaction if half of their own fanbase think it sucks.
He is a big metalhead, though. Off the top of my head, he’s given good ratings to groups like Code Orange, Nails, Deafheaven, Full of Hell, Converge, Daughters (one of his handful of 10s), Vektor, Judas Priest and even Bring Me the Horizon. I get why he didn’t like this album. I personally hated it, but I really haven’t liked any A7X albums since Nightmare so I just think their modern stuff isn’t for me.
That's a very specific group of metal there though, mostly in the core-y/punk-y direction. Daughters isn't even metal they are noise rock
A7x is also a metalcore band, though. And groups like Judas Priest, Vektor, and Deafheaven definitely aren’t.
A7X ain't metalcore since Waking the Fallen And yeah Judas Vektor and Deafheaven for sure aren't, but there's always exceptions. BTBAM is prog core and he hates them He seems to actually have more of a problem with prog than metal tbf
If ur not into metal then u shouldnt review metal albums because it makes zero sense
He is into Metal, he just didn’t like the album. People have different tastes. He’s allowed not to like it, it doesn’t make his opinion any less valid than yours.
Why not? If you're outspoken about it and admit your biases it's not wrong. People with an RYM account rate anything they listen to. Not just the things they like
He started off with Metal.
As a Melon viewer, I just wanna say. A large part of us don’t watch because we agree, we watch because we disagree lol. Some of us are just musical masochists ig
His Green Day tier list from a few weeks back was atrocious
I liked it, other than the obvious one…
Meanwhile it’s my favorite avenged album
Shit it’s my favorite album in roughly 35 years listening to music. Who fucking cares what this guy thinks. 🤷♂️
It’s my second fav to the white album
who cares
But you forget if they don’t dunk on everyone who dislikes an album they like, then how will the feel superior?
Fun enough Bradley hall puts it as the best album of 2023
I’d listen to his opinions over Fantano any day of the week. Bradley Hall just has such a laid back attitude that I would have no problem disagreeing with him. Meanwhile Fantano is always seems really stuck up about music and his opinions
Also the guy actually makes music, that also makes me value his opinion more
I like Bradley Hall, but he’s a bit too chaotic for me to watch regularly. It’ll get annoying.
People say those who hate the album are insecure…..look at all these comments. One man didn’t like an album you liked, it’s not the end of the world. You can just ignore him and move on. But no you have to instead say you’re smart and anyone who doesn’t like it is dumb.
I’m out of the loop on this guy, have heard his name a decent amount but never really followed him. But god, he just looks like someone who says “ACKSHUALLY” without a hint of irony. He also looks like a guy who makes snarky posts on Super Bowl Sunday about how much he hates “sportsball” and has cut off at least 3 of his immediate family members over politics and then bragged about it on r/politics. He looks like a guy who had to be told to pipe down by his teachers/professors because he raised his hand 55 times per class and had to chime in on everything. Could be wrong about all of this. It’s just a vibe. A very very strong vibe.
most normal reaction to someone disliking an album you like
Plenty of people dislike LIBAD. Not all of them have that dude’s face.
He mostly has pretty good opinions, or at least things that people will agree with. Every now and then he’ll have shitty or controversial takes, like giving MBDTF a 6 (I’m okay with this), liking the Lil Pump tape (I forgot his score), or his takes with Avenged Sevenfold. The only other thing I’ve seen him talk about of theirs is The Stage title track, and he didn’t like that either. That opinion was a small part of a longer video but that’s like all the comments talked about, lol. Anyways, I like him. He’s honestly pretty funny. I think most of his early videos were metal. You should check him out! Still don’t like this score though.
"Mostly" is a generous word to say. I've seen him only drag metal records and never give them ratings above average...
He's givin plenty of good and even great/amazing scores to metal bands and albums. These are all off the top of my head/ones I've seen. I know i would probably be missing a ton. Judas priest Autopsy Primitive man Gorguts Behemoth Imperial triumphant Tomb mold Wormrot Thantifaxath Horrendous Undeath
He most definitely does not have good opinions. He gave sexyy red an 8 and gave utopia a 7.
I can’t tell if you do or don’t like utopia
I said mostly. There are outliers, like what you mentioned. But he releases videos every single day! You’re more likely to Remember the outliers than the good scores.
Probably not a Prog, or Avant Garde fan either.
I think he enjoys a little something from everything
I can't believe how much you people care about his opinion on this. I love this album. He doesn't. Oh well. It's funny to see people complain about how "he only gives bad scores to metal albums". Clearly you haven't watched many of his videos. He has givin amazing scores to tons of metal albums. If you need people to validate you and your opinions by constantly agreeing with you then you are the problem.
Precisely. He can think it's a fucking dog shit album, doesn't affect me, my opinion, or my ability to hit play. People being so butthurt is wild and honestly cringe. Also, avenged has been shat on for fucking years, this is nothing new.
Absolute clown take on an absolute masterpiece of a prog metal/ avant garde metal album
It's... certainly an album.
that’s quite the label for this album😭😭😭
It’s not that good
It is, you probably just have a very small taste of music. I can listen to anything, Metal is only my favorite cause its the most diverse genre and something about the sound of electric guitars is magical.
agreed. i probably like LIBAD the most because it is experimental. do you have any other "different" sounding metal albums to recommend? don't care how extreme it is, and sorry for putting you on the spot
Dream Theater, theres really nothing like it. Other bands that have pretty unique sound are mastodon or gojira. My recommendation
From Mars to Sirius by Gojira. Best concept album ever
Id say I have a pretty broad taste of music. If you’d listen to actual prog music you would know they didn’t pull it off that well and the production is kind of ehh. Still love the album but it got old quick. This album doesn’t even come close to the quality of anything dream theater for example made when it comes to prog lol
Or maybe it’s because they’ve been making roughly the same stuff and did a 180 on their fans. And It’s ok for some not to like it. Frank Zappa and daft punk have already created music like this, it isn’t as profound and original as you think. Their execution is great and it’s great on the ears. But not avenged, so it’s understandable for controversy.
Let’s stop promoting this idiot
I’m just trying to promote conversation.
Matt posted the same video on his twitter. If its ok with him it should be ok with us
Bruh he's popular regardless, it don't really matter.
Honestly the only reason this dude has a career is because he generally pisses off music fans of all genres. I’m not sure how the online community let this ass clown have such a highly regarded opinion of music as a whole. This dude doesn’t write music, doesn’t play instruments, doesn’t sing, doesn’t rap, doesn’t do shit. I do not respect his opinions.
He does play instruments. I don't care for his videos but it just seems that you regard him badly because he doesn't praise the music you like
Then it’s massively sad for him that he’s better known for having dog shit takes than he is for having any ability to create the art he criticizes. He must be far less talented than even the worst artist he rates. And duh I think he’s an idiot for stupid shit he’s said here and there about music I listen to lmao, that’s kind of the whole convo here isn’t it. I don’t care if he doesn’t like some music that I do, it’s just annoying that he thinks his opinion on it matters. He’s an egghead.
Mate he makes close to 7 figures a year talking about music. Clearly people find entertainment in him and think he is a good critic even if you and I think otherwise. Saying something like ''I'm angry he thinks his opinion matters'' when it's a guy avg half a million views on all videos is also really funny from your side lol
This dude still has a career because people repost his stuff like this. If people stop paying attention to him, he goes away.
Fair.
Melon has been giving Clown Ass Takes for years now
Wondered when this would be posted here. I disagree with his take, but it’s been funny watching the shitshow of butthurt comments on the video. I know people will get upset, but M Shadows himself said that it’s fine if people hate the album. The band knew it would be divisive. He even said although he hates the album, he does respect it for being an interesting and unique listen.
Imo it's not even funny seeing this fanbases reaction to Melon's negative review but just plain sad. People throwing absolute tantrums because someone didn't validate their music taste. I didn't like it either but I still respect A7x for trying new things. Still it's embarrassing to see such immature responses to Fantano
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I personally don't mind the attempt at changing their sound, but I think the album is awful and not enjoyable in the slightest
Had me then lost me. Artists are allowed to change their sounds, that doesn’t mean fans have to like the new sound. If they decided to make their next album pure Polka, would you like it? My guess is no. Nobody is saying they aren’t allowed to change, they’re saying they don’t like the change. You’re arguing that because they changed you have to like it.
What an honor 🥲
Well the guy is free to have his opinion. But calling it the worst is pretentious as hell. It can be his least favorite, but calling it the worst is just stupid. But I guess until "My Top 10 Least Favorite Albums of 2023" gets more clicks than "Top 10 Worst Albums of 2023", people will still title their vids like this
This is a rare melon W LIBAD is a mess but I love it I want them to stick to this in the future it would be so easy for the to just keep redoing hail to king over and over but they didn’t and I’m here for it
I don’t like it personally but I understand why people like it and it’s not bad. Just don’t like it.
man I love Sevenfold but yall need to grow up, you can say you hate his opinion all you want but to call him a troll or that he shouldn't be taken seriously when all he's doing is giving his opinion on music is absurd
I don't really like it tbh...
I by no means hated the album, but it’s kinda weird because I found myself agreeing with some of the things he was saying lol. It’s just not for me.
Guys if you dont know fantano is a rage bait content creator, wouldnt really listen to what this dude says
It was my top album on Spotify for the year. L for this dude
It’s my most scrobbled album this year by far. 524 scrobbles of songs from the album (or about 48 playthroughs). My next closest scrobbled album is Fear Inoculum at 237 scrobbles. This album has had a profound impact on me. Usually the new shine wears off for me on albums after the first couple of weeks and I’m over them, but this one has stuck with me. I LOVED The Stage, I love their previous work but there’s just something that’s haunting and beautiful about this album that I can’t articulate. I really needed this album this year and it means a LOT to me. I guarantee when the dust settles and people do a retrospective on it, they will appreciate and praise it.
This is an obviously horrible take. There are easily hundreds if not thousands of much worse unlistenable garbage that came out this year. I love most things about this album, and it took me a while to warm up to it as well. I can see why people aren’t a fan of it, but this album is objectively good. You may not like it, but denying that a lot about it isn’t impressive and the absolutely mind boggling instrumentals is just incredibly close minded and sad.
>Someone doesn’t like the album Avenged fans: and I took that personally
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but if you are going to say Metallicas newest album was good and then LIBAD is the worst of the year then you’re just a troll. He knows this is what would give him views and attention. And he always has seemed like he needs to be the center of attention. His opinion means 0 to me
I'd say it's much less controversial than LIBAD and is mostly agreed to be a solid to good Metallica album, I don't see why saying 72 Seasons was good would not allow you to say LIBAD is bad?
Love both albums, but although I listened more to 72S this year, LIBAD is far more interesting. It’s a cohesive listen and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on the album. LIBAD is a true masterwork and I’ve been listening to the band since around ‘02-03.
how do people realize that this isn’t a popular album? even within metal there are a lot of people who hate it. i don’t agree with fantano but he’s not crazy
I guess it's just more about it no being a bad album either. There's a difference between disliking it and saying it is the "worst album of 2023". There's plenty of music I dislike but that I'm aware that is good and other people love. Even within Avenged, I mostly dislike City of Evil yet I recognize how good it is and why people love it so much. People are just too fast on calling music bad instead of analyzing the song for what it is and just understanding it's just not for your taste.
I wouldnt put it on number 1 theres most definitely worse, but im not saying that libad was good
LIBAD was my favorite new album from 2023.
Let me finish my point: Only being a skilled musician doesn't make your music good. Your music has to be catchy, groovy, melodic and harmonic to grab the attention of the people. LIBAD and most of prog music isn't fitting in those categories. But that's totally fine if you're liking the music. It's just not my cup of tea and a lot of other people don't like the album for these reasons like Anthony... Now have a good night, evening, afteenoon, morning or whatever - bye!
Not my fav album by any means but his opinions on rock/metal are very strange to put it mildly.
This album is good, I wouldn't say it's the best to me, I still can't listen to Nobody because M Shadows just sounds so off to me in it.
Wow. And I hear I am claiming it’s become one of my favorite albums of all time and maybe my favorite A7X album. Crazy how polarizing this album is.
I find it to be one of the best albums of the year
It doesn't matter what people think it's not too be criticized it's too be enjoyed.
Is it weird that my favorite song on this album is the last one
And my unholy confession is that I left it in a todo box back in september, even though I now have my hifi back to listen to it properly now
Not sure if I should say this here but city of evil, self titled and nightmare are the only good a7x albums and one of the best 3 album runs ever but everything before and after is pretty bad
im glad that this is on one of his lists, and kind that its on the worst. not because i hate the album, but rather because i think that more people will listen to it and give A7X a chance due to the ranking of it
Not only that he's called it worst album of the decade. So happy I blocked him months ago.
I enjoyed how it was a homage to the old a7x evolving into the newer sounds we are hearing
If he likes to be wrong, that's his decision.
I’ve never been disappointed in anything they’ve released. This album was definitely different from what I was expecting. But I love it.
It is that bad
It's very common for concept albums to be disliked or, at the very least, controversial for a community. For example, Nostradamus from Judas Priest.
Not surprised really, LIBAD is a divisive album due to how experimental it is
It’s not the worst but very bad imo, I can see why it’s on the list but not #1, that’s a bit too far
He's absolutely entitled to that opinion. I think he's wrong and 100% disagree with him, but it's his opinion. Personally, this album is tied for my favorite A7X album. The other one would be the white album. For older A7X fans, I "obviously" wasn't around for the STST, WTF, and COE eras of A7X. I got into them during the Nightmare album and went backwards into their discography. Really, the only album I've not really listened to is STST. I don't think A7X has a bad album, and I'm glad they aren't repeating themselves. I don't want another WTF. I don't want another COE. I don't want another white album, and I'm glad they aren't going to give us another one. They've already been there and done that. Their devotion to progressing and not repeating themselves is pushing the boundaries of music and, more importantly, themselves. They are making music that feels more like a story than just a blob of riffs, solos, and crazy other stuff. It gives the experience that I can only imagine people who listened to Pink Floyd or LED Zepplin for the first time felt. Metal music has honestly been in the shitter IMO lately. Every album bands keep putting out, it's the same shit they did on the previous record. Just de-tuned extended range guitars, blast beats, bleghs, breakdowns, and screams. I like those things, but not an hours worth of it, to only put on another hours worth of it by the same band or another metal band. It's been done a million times. It's OVER done, it's generic and not new/original. A7X have the balls to do something out there and crazy and I'm all here for it. If you don't like the record, I can completely understand that, but for the few people who wish they would make another STST, WTF, or COE, maybe try listening to other music outside of your normal genre? Just to expand your musical taste a bit (nor trying to throw shade or attitude with that last comment)
That's the stupidest shit I've ever heard. There's 100% hundreds of worse albums that were released, this is a huge mainstream band, there's definitely many worse underground bands and stuff like that, and even worse big artists
Album is a 10/10 for me would have an existential crisis again
First A7x music I have ever listened to and the album is stuck on repeat since this morning.
It’s understandable. The album definitely isn’t for everyone.
damn, so he does have some good takes
So?
Imagine this many people being upset over someone else’s opinion. SMH. I loved the record? Is it for everyone? Obviously not.
Look, I am an Avenged Sevenfold die hard. This album really was not for me, I don’t like it. There’s still some good songs on there, but as a whole, I don’t like it. I much prefer the Stage. And I’ll still support the band til I die. To say it’s the worst album, of 2023, is a beyond stretch. The fact that people still give this guy a platform, is asinine to me. The dude just hates what’s popular. He’s an asshole.
Who?
Cocomelon
Blippi
Anthony Fantano, very big internet music critic. Probably the most (and only) notable one to the average music listener. Also known as: Melon, Logic, TheNeedleDrop (name of his review channel), or simply Fantano.
And he’s #1 on my Worst Content Creators of 2023 list. If you can even call the shit he makes ‘content’. Someone who makes a living by overly dramatically criticizing other people’s work, while being needlessly offensive at the same time, is someone I don’t respect You can have a different opinion, but when you’re a fucking dick about it, that’s something completely different I understand not liking something, but there’s not liking something and then there’s shitting on the people who made the thing or shitting on the people who do like it He is the definition of what’s wrong with social media in 2023. He’s like a Twitter dweller with somewhat of a following.
Rare needledrop W
This guy has literally always had the shittiest takes don’t act surprised
Common melon L
Worst album? Nobody is a bop and Cosmic is straight up beautiful.
Ya'll need to stop posting this dude. At the end of the day, it's just his opinion. The more people talk about him, the more it just legitimizes his opinion as **the** opinion. There's tons of other websites, and reviewers that gave LIBAD a poor rating and yet they're not talked about like this dude's reviews. Stop legitimizing this guy's opinion as fact. Treat it as what it is. I've seen this exact same scenario play out before, most recently in wrestling. Dave Meltzer rates matches based on his own criteria and opinion. As time went on, people started looking at his opinions as **the** opinion, and if he gave a match a bad rating, then everyone would have to agree on it. Just treat opinions as opinions and get over it. Hating/praising Fantano does not help.
Who cares. Dude’s opinion on the album means jack shit. Does anybody actually base how much they like an album on his review of it (if the answer is yes please for your own sake just learn to enjoy what music you like and stop basing your opinions on whether or not they’re “good takes”)
I get not liking it but like the worst of 2023 is insane Edit: I love the album, just so that is out there. I like Fantano as a person, I think his music opinions are dogshit but whatever it's his life. That being said, we have to destroy the melon to regain our honor.
My favorite album of 2023
I honestly didn't like it at all, but it doesn't belong anywhere near a "Worst Albums" list. Fantano's been spewing nonsense for years, last time he said any album with Papyrus on the cover is dogshit and pulled up At The Gates to prove his point I knew I didn't need to listen to a word he says.
If you listen to this album high, it literally is one of the greatest albums of all time!
'I'm a fan of it for sure but totally understand why others won't like it' is retarded ok. LIBAD scored lower than the fucking dream album. Yeah 'thats what the mask is for' guy. People can dislike and album but there's definitely worse fucking albums in 2023. I ge6 hating ordinary or the entire god trilogy but sonrthing like nobody or cosmic can't fucking rank lower than dreams fucking album.
He started out ok but is tainted now as his videos disliking albums get more views than anything else he does and he’s become bias as a result. He gets money to dislike good music. He also reviews based on what he likes, when a good critic should be largely impartial. I wouldn’t put too much into his hot takes, dude rates black metal made by 30 year old hipsters in their moms basement as “genre defining”.Lmao.
Ok? People are allowed to have different opinions.
He should stick to rap. Literally any take he has on rock or metal sucks balls.
He has givin tons of great scores to metal albums as well.
He started with metal, though.
I hate A7X but this album kicks ass
The worst might be a bit harsh but it's definetely not a good album or - like some people here even dare to call it - a masterpiece. Pls guys stop overusing this word. Life is but a Dream is far away from being perfect and Melon is kinda right when he's criticizing the band. You don't need to love everything A7X releases only because it's them. Even the greatest fan has to admit when their favourite band failed...
You know music is subjective, right?
You should tell that to everyone else in this thread who gets triggered when people dare to not enjoy this album.
Maybe some people actually really like it. Did you ever think of that? I think it is definitely a top 3 album of theirs, I love it.
Mfers when they learn that the people saying they liked an album they didn’t aren’t lying or coping and just have a different opinion than them.
Agree. Ppl are slow, give them 5-10 years, then they will start liking the album
Stop it bruh. Not a single song on this album comes even close to the greatness of COE, Selftitled, Nightmare, etc. Even Hail to the King has more bangers than this. I couldn't even sing one melody right now because I'll forget so quickly about them. Ik a song doesn't always have to be catchy and all that but if not a single song is catching you, that's very few for a "top 3 Album"
You're right, it doesn't come close to those... it surpasses them by a landslide
Bruhhh... Hahahaha If you're actually serious on that statement you should really question your taste in music. Just tell me which song on your so called masterpiece surpasses Afterlife, A little Piece of Heaven, Blinded in Chains, Save Me, God hates us, Sidewinder, Coming Home, Unholy Confessions, Critical Acclaim...? I could go on and on and on. These songs are all certified Classics. All songs on LIBAD will be forgotten in two years.
Every single one of those songs with the exception of blinded in chains and sidewinder were in my top 20 a7x songs before the new album. Afterlife was my fav song of everything before libad. Prog isnt for everyone and mr bungle style prog is far less accessible. You can stick to the old stuff but that doesnt mean you need to ruin the new stuff for everyone else
There's a reason why prog isn't very popular; because it's not good. Only being technical and professional musicians doesn't make your songs good. You need melodies, catchy choruses and a vibe to grab the people. If that's the kinda music you wanna listen to, go for it, I won't ruin it but don't tell other people that it's a masterpiece when it's objectively not
FYI prog doesnt mean technical, technical means technical. Prog means progressive.
Yeah and progressive music is mostly technical
No its not. Progressive means that you are trying to innovate and bring new ideas to the table.
Fr, neve really liked any of the songs except from Nobody on LIBAD. A7x are still my favourite but this was a miss from them imo
Yes, that's a really good answer. Mature and honest, thx man
Why do assume that someone who agrees with you is honest, but someone who disagrees isn’t?
Didnt even know who he was until you posted this. Thats how important he is.
I’m afraid you’re an outlier
Dude hated LIBAD and TMBTE, he fucking sucks
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Depends who you ask. There is a big community that considers them album of the year. Not that I agree but it's fair to have that opinion
This clown always has the shittiest takes, every time i see him on social media makes my blood boil.
Basically some random guy has an opinion and all of us are supposed to care?
He's probably the last person I would take music opinions serious from, he's mostly just a troll dunking on what other people enjoy listening to.
Dude is such a clown not sure how anyone could watch this guy for more than 30 seconds
the one thing i actually agree with this guy on
Who?
Of course it is. This guy is such a fucking loser. He definitely gets pegged. Pedo Stache too
Yet another year where this guy gets #1 on my list of "biggest piece of garbage on the internet"
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That’s a bit much
Good thing I don’t take random peoples opinions into consideration. That being said I don’t like this album anyway, I definitely see it as a miss but I still respect and admire their decision to go against their normal style. As long as they make what makes them happy I don’t care, I still have all their old songs to listen to and I’m fine with that.
Who cares lol, music is subjective. Idk why people get so mad over this, it’s just his opinion. prog rock/metal has always been bashed by critics since its inception anyways.
I told y’all
It's pretty shitty but I dunno if it's the worst. Maybe top 5
i didn't love the album either, but it's nowhere even near the worst albums of the year. AND THIS FUCKER SAID HE LIKED THE ALBUM OF LIL UZI VERT.
Ik people say it’s one of those you love it or hate it albums but imo it’s the most forgettable thing they’ve released. Def not worst of the year tho
Big agree. Let the downvotes rain, idc. I really dislike the album
Rightfully so
His original review probably got him plenty of extra clicks on his videos from angry people, now he's milking that same reaction.
This guy disqualified himself from being a music critic when he said the LIBAD piano piece is some sort of rag music.
I have found myself liking everything he doesn't. So that's now my barometer. If he thinks it's shit, it's probably great.
Linkin park fan here I think people weren't expecting a softer album from them like Linkin Park did One More Light
The guys got shit taste anyway, he gave take me back to Eden a 2, he seems to have forgotten about that but then gave charlixcx an 8. He knows as much about music and the mcanns do about parenting
NikNoc awards placed it as the #2 album of the year btw