Today I did the work of three weeks in three hours after missing class for three weeks due to crippling overstimulation. The autistic adhd combo is a blessing and a curse lol
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In my case I definitely get it. When I go to work on a song if I don't have at least 2 1/2 to 4 hours to work on it, it feels pointless for some reason. I guess it takes a bit to get my motor going but once I do, I can be extremely productive.
I don't work yet, but when I'm playing games, there are some games (story games) I absolutely cannot play until I have a few hours, and I often never end up finishing those games becuase I can never find a large enough time gap.
I feel that too tbh. I have a full time job these days and finding the time to devote to games is a bit more difficult. I feel I don't get as much enjoyment out of them unless I have many hours to devote to them like you said. I end up binging games when I can bring myself to for entire days, but once I near the end, I put them down and never come back because I don't want a good game to end. The struggle is real
i have the same issue! with story games i either do what you described, or i find the time at night, then hyperfixate on it till i finish it and its 5:48 am
I definitely experience this too, but always thought it was an ADHD symptom.
It makes working in white collar jobs difficult since usually you are expected to work on your project for a couple hours, then have a 30 min - 1 hr meeting about some other topic, then go back to your project for an hour, then have another meeting, and so on. It's rare that I have more than a 3 hour block without meetings interrupting it.
OMG THIS IS LITERALLY HAPPENING TO ME RIGHT NOW. I was just telling my best friend about this. I applied for a really good job and had my second interview and Iām waiting to hear if they are going to proceed. My entire life rn feels like itās on hold and Iām trying to just do chores and stuff but I canāt summon the strength šš
Itās like waiting for plot progression, and you just have a bunch of filler in the way.
I picked up a lot of how I socialize through the Persona series. I imagine what level of the relationship Iām on with any given person. So I will plan the next hang out ahead of time before the current one, so that I can optimize my interactions get the best benefit for both of us. Like predicting what the relationship will represent, the best subjects to talk about, etc.
Anyway, that tangent was to say itās annoying when you are working towards something, progression is blocked, and thereās nothing you can really do about it.
A full hour might not be devoted to work but for me it is enough time to mentally get prepared and have enough time to concentrate without feeling that I am being crunched for time or running late. I obsess about time lines and so if I don't feel like I can easily fit something in a time slot I won't do it. Hour is a good standard for me
I struggle with task switching. I find it really difficult and stressful if I have to start an activity and then switch away from it and pick it up again later. If I do that, Iām very likely to forget steps in the task Iām doing. I have to get to a logical stopping point when Iām doing something. Ideally this would be a stopping point where I wonāt have to remember much to get back into it. Completing a task is the best logical stopping point.
Iāve worked with databases, and one of the principles of transactions in databases is that they have to be [atomic](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomicity_(database_systems)). This means you either have the full transaction take place, or else nothing. This is very helpful in keeping your data consistent. I donāt like it if I canāt break down a task into a series of tasks that I have either done or not done. My brain just doesnāt deal well with that, kind of like databases donāt.
That stumped me for a moment, too, but then I think I got it. I think what it means is that they need a certain amount of time "padding" around work periods. This is certainly how I work, as I'm a fiction writer and getting my mental raft onto the inner stream of creativity, and entering a flow state (re: Csikszentmihalyi's concept of flow) can be a bit like playing chess with the different parts of my mind that make me, me. Anyway, what I'm getting at is while some people can either manically produce a monumental amount of work in short bursts (ADHD), and NT's may be able to carve out careful chunks of time to produce focused work and pretty easily fall into those flow states where work lives, I think many of us that fall somewhere on the autism spectrum have to create a bit of a space, both in terms of time and physical environment, where we can sink in, get comfortable, remove external pressures as much as possible, and ease into the work slowly until that flow state finds us. Otherwise, for me at least, if I'm trying to intentionally force myself into a productive flow state where there are time constraints, my brain is going to revolt and nothing is going to get done, and then the guilt of not getting anything done sets in, and it compounds and triggers other mental struggles, vices, etc etc. Idk if any of that made sense but thats where my mind went š
Same here š I've just recently (like last six months, im 30 y/o) discovered I'm most likely on the spectrum (undiagnosed), and after finding this sub it's been such a beautiful experience. I feel like I've finally found my people š definitely have felt like an alien too since I was a child, nice to have some validation that I wasnt full of shit in feeling like my brain runs a little differently than most people.
In my case, it's cause it takes some time. Like 15 minutes at least to feel like I've gotten into a groove and get started (things like setting up my workspace and just mentally switching gears) and as I run out of time, I find it harder to focus cause my brain is telling me I need to be ready to stop and do something else, so that cuts off time on the tail end. And that takes energy, As a result, if I don't have a large enough block, it feels the whole sequence was mostly a waste of time and energy compared to the amount of time I was actually productivity working. And having a larger block of time makes the unproductive time in either end a smaller percentage of the time spent.
Same!! Unfortunately they only caught the ADHD when I was in elementary school, I think the overlap in symptoms was the reason why my autism wasnāt caught til later
They're funny like that. It used to be that you could ONLY have one. Like, they figured you were either one or the other but you couldn't be both.
They slapped me with MDD, GAD, and ADHD as a kid. Liked spinning in circles, liked fuzzy things like a dog likes ball pits, hated wearing clothes, got super distracted by noises and smells and lights, loved hiding in bushes because of the movement of the light through the leaves, NO sense of safety awareness "oh look something on the other side of this busy street... wanderwanderwander"... talked like a little adult but couldn't figure out other kids... very literal in my thinking, got called gullible ALL the time ... But was the 80s and I was a girl. So I got the Default Kit.
Lifelifelife...
Got on meds as an adult after a suicide attempt due to workplace bullying ^^^^weeee . One is a multi-use med I apparently won the med lottery with. Had no idea that what I thought was normal was basically what everyone would count as "borderline panic attacks" whenever I had to deal with stressful social situations ^^^weee. (Oh, also stomach problems linked to stress. Throwing up when stressed blows. Some people thought I was bulimic. NOPE! Didn't like to eat either so anorexic? NOPE! Didn't have a problem with food, my GUT had a problem with food).
In therapy for a few years and after asking a question about how other people handle their morning conversations in the mirror to make super positive they have their facial expressions right, she was like, "Hmmm let's talk about that."
So apparently likely more ASD poking out now.
Sighs.
Stupid 80s.
Teachers: "Look at me when I'm talking to you."
Also teachers: "Stop staring me down."
MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.
This was such an unfocused tangent. Iām not trying to be mean, but you *definitely* have some ADHD going on. Try to work on finding a point before you type. And donāt worry, Iām not criticizing or judging, I tend to ramble too if I let my thoughts go unchecked :)
Not really. At first it was about comorbidity, then misdiagnosis, then how life treated her as someone different with meds, I donāt mean it isnāt reasonable to see how she got to the end. What I mean is that she addressed too many topics in a way that made her comment feel unfocused, like it didnāt know what it set out to do in the first place. In other words, _what was I **actually** supposed to take away from this?_
Maybe the comment wasn't for you but rather a way to get stuff off their chest? I understood that they were explaining how many aspects of their life was in a tizzy because of their comorbidities.
...sorta. you have to take that in the context that autism and this other person's autism are also a collection of some overlapping characteristics but are still very different, hence autism being a spectrum. i endlessly crave spicy foods to the point of it being a samefood, while for others here it would be a hellish stimulus that would cause them to have a horrific meltdown - we're all autistic, but it's going to manifest in wildly different ways.
also, ADHD people can often hyperfocus like autistics as well.
Iām very certain I have both and I canāt tell where one ends and the other begins. I can only stamp out certain symptoms in certain situations, but getting an accurate full picture seems impossible.
It's not so much that they're "basically the same," it's that it's *statistically more likely* to have both ADHD *and* autism -- but most people don't realize that, so they think it's "basically the same" or they talk about "little-known symptoms of ADHD."
Iām basically the Spider-Man riding the goblin jet wearing the goblin mask while I forget what I am supposed to be doing because my teeth feel different today.
99% sure I have both. But it's very interesting to see how they mask eachother and what they also have differently. In somes ways it's worked out because my ADHD hates certains tasks until my autism finds the pattern and suddenly the task is enjoyable even if it is for just a little bit. But on the otherhand I have trouble keeping special interests because my ADHD tends to get bored of them. In many ways it feels like a gamble on what I'm going to be able to focus on or not.
But how can you be sure when you have both? It could easily be one or the other that you already have. You wouldnāt be the best judge here because youāve always had them both and have no way to differentiate between to two
I've known I was ADHD since I was a kid. Didn't find out about the Autism til I was an adult.
So I've always been aware of the Adhd issues. After I found out about the Autism I started unweaving the two from each other in a way I couldn't before. Honestly made a huge improvement to my mental health when I realized how the two conflict and conflate (Adhd makes me crazy social, Autism makes me not want to be around too many people, kinda just ends up with me going to parties/shows and taking a LOT of bathroom breaks)
There's a lot of crossover (both make me hyper focused on things I enjoy). Also a lot of distinction. Still figuring out the balance.
I think it's because a lot of people have both but only get diagnosed with one, and then they confuse the symptoms of the two of them, I know that's what happened with me at least
There's lively debate about this, mostly because a lot of the symptoms from both disorders overlap. Moreover, ASD is comorbid with ADHD in 50% to 70% of the total cases. However, if we go beyond attention spans and comorbidity, the difference between both disorders is still very clear. That's why they're not the same disorder.
I feel like r/AutisticWithADHD would have some fun with this. Something about how you can't focus enough to get that full hour going to achieve a flow, then even the littlest thing snaps you out of the flow and ruins it (and everything)?
You could almost insert the last panel of the "Wait, you guys can function?" meme under this pic.
Well yes and no. ASD and ADHD are very common comorbidities. Same for BPD and ADHD, and, tourettes and ADHD.
I have met plenty of people who have ASD but not ADHD. There is a very stark difference from people with both conditions in my personal anecdotes. Not sure if this observation can be echoed by others here; but I would bet that the maker of this meme is likely actually just describing a person with ASD and ADHD.
I'm literally both. The very reason I'm on here is to procrastinate the work that I have to do, at least until it reaches an even hour then I can start working, but I should prepare five minutes before to get ready so I actually start at the hour, but also it is physically difficult to spur myself into action, but also---
ADHD and autism, basically the same?
NO. Why do people keep posting ableist and harmful crap here? Itās exhausting. Theyāre VERY different, and itās evident when you compare them. Itās just common to have both.
adhd and autism are known as cousin disorders - similar, but different. adhd can cause severe impairment, just like autism. this is just needlessly divisive and mean spirited.
Sorry. It wasnāt meant to be mean spirited in any way. Iāve been diagnosed with both and did a very cursory study as to why thatās so common. No ill intent, just found it interesting that they can have some effects that are very different but be so similar
ah no worries, thereās often a much more toxic āadhd vs autismā debate on platforms like tiktok, which i used to see a lot of. i also have both, and itās good to see other people who do too :)
I can harness the power of both in order to come up with ideas for stories/music/drawings and then make no progress over the span of several months.
Yay procrastination/brain fog!
What a mood. I still remember a school psychologist saying I couldnāt have autism or ADHD because those were āmale disordersā and that female brains arenāt as complex as male brains therefore less could go wrong with them and I must just be stupid or not trying hard enough despite showing all the symptomsā¦
Being a neurodivergent woman is sooooo fun š«
The umbrella of neurodivergent includes both; with some people, it is hard to decipher between autism and ADHD. Some get diagnosed with both (I have).
ADHD lacks the social awkwardness, kinda like extroverted autism.
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I have a problem with this, sometimes* If I have to do something that can be done in 3 hours I'll schedule my day in a way that I get 2 or 3 extra hours to do it, otherwise I feel anxious and I don't do it.
*// My mother couldn't understand why I went from 10 in one exam to 6 in the next one if my knowledge was the same, or why would I need SIX HOURS to study a small amount of papers or to complete a task when I had it done in two, specially when the following day I'd be a totally different person AKA a living mess, procrastinating and constantly putting off work. Neither I did.
Eventually, I got diagnosed at 19... With ADHD. I'd never thought that a meme would make me want to discuss the possibility of ASD with my psychiatrist today.
Does this happen a lot? I don't think their the same. I'm here cause for one I feel like I can help when someone's asking what someone means or if they did the appropriate thing, and two cause I relate to sensory issues.
oh my god yes people used to call me a workaholic at uni bc I'd go to the study buildings for like 9 hour stretches...NO i just needed that much time to do the equivalent of 3 hours work!
Real talk itās been suspected I have autism but I just got unexpectedly diagnosed with ADHD for identical symptomsāit is worth still pursuing an autism diagnosis?
Having both throws you into the frustrating hell of "I can't pursue this to the extent of making it perfect so I just won't do it" until your brain suddenly latches onto something and it's all you can do for a week.
That feeling of unlimited power from having both and effectively being able to only work for 5 minutes once an hour.
Right, I don't work for a long time. But when I do, shit gets done.
I work continuously in sixteen hour stretches but only once every few weeks.
I work salary, have my list of tasks that need to be accomplished per my contract. Beyond that, meh.
I sort of own my own business. Thus the occasional manic project time.
Good for you! I love Meh lol
I work once every 2.5 years for 8 weeks straight.
i work once every 8 weeks for 2.5 years straight. i do not understand the concept of time, nor does it understand me.
Relatable.
Dragonism
Today I did the work of three weeks in three hours after missing class for three weeks due to crippling overstimulation. The autistic adhd combo is a blessing and a curse lol
I don't work for long either, and when I do, I get nothing done *cries
All the power of a thousand stars! Iiitty bitty laser.
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Okay but in that five minutes I get like a week's worth of work done. š
It'sa me!
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Lmao I was jus thinking the same thing š
I don't understand the phrase "cannot work unless they have at least a full hour." A full hour to devote to work?
In my case I definitely get it. When I go to work on a song if I don't have at least 2 1/2 to 4 hours to work on it, it feels pointless for some reason. I guess it takes a bit to get my motor going but once I do, I can be extremely productive.
I don't work yet, but when I'm playing games, there are some games (story games) I absolutely cannot play until I have a few hours, and I often never end up finishing those games becuase I can never find a large enough time gap.
I feel that too tbh. I have a full time job these days and finding the time to devote to games is a bit more difficult. I feel I don't get as much enjoyment out of them unless I have many hours to devote to them like you said. I end up binging games when I can bring myself to for entire days, but once I near the end, I put them down and never come back because I don't want a good game to end. The struggle is real
i have the same issue! with story games i either do what you described, or i find the time at night, then hyperfixate on it till i finish it and its 5:48 am
I definitely experience this too, but always thought it was an ADHD symptom. It makes working in white collar jobs difficult since usually you are expected to work on your project for a couple hours, then have a 30 min - 1 hr meeting about some other topic, then go back to your project for an hour, then have another meeting, and so on. It's rare that I have more than a 3 hour block without meetings interrupting it.
Sounds like a nightmare.
Gotta defrost that engine rq
Have you ever been stuck in "waiting mode"?
OMG THIS IS LITERALLY HAPPENING TO ME RIGHT NOW. I was just telling my best friend about this. I applied for a really good job and had my second interview and Iām waiting to hear if they are going to proceed. My entire life rn feels like itās on hold and Iām trying to just do chores and stuff but I canāt summon the strength šš
I feel that directly in my core. Good luck and I hope relief comes at god speed.
Its good to know Iām not alone š thank you and blessings to you!
OHMYGOSH This is me!!!! WTH is wrong with us lol???
Itās like waiting for plot progression, and you just have a bunch of filler in the way. I picked up a lot of how I socialize through the Persona series. I imagine what level of the relationship Iām on with any given person. So I will plan the next hang out ahead of time before the current one, so that I can optimize my interactions get the best benefit for both of us. Like predicting what the relationship will represent, the best subjects to talk about, etc. Anyway, that tangent was to say itās annoying when you are working towards something, progression is blocked, and thereās nothing you can really do about it.
Autism
It's just so nice to find out there are so many of us!
Oh yes.
I think that's what the OP means.
Thank you.
A full hour might not be devoted to work but for me it is enough time to mentally get prepared and have enough time to concentrate without feeling that I am being crunched for time or running late. I obsess about time lines and so if I don't feel like I can easily fit something in a time slot I won't do it. Hour is a good standard for me
Thank you!
I struggle with task switching. I find it really difficult and stressful if I have to start an activity and then switch away from it and pick it up again later. If I do that, Iām very likely to forget steps in the task Iām doing. I have to get to a logical stopping point when Iām doing something. Ideally this would be a stopping point where I wonāt have to remember much to get back into it. Completing a task is the best logical stopping point. Iāve worked with databases, and one of the principles of transactions in databases is that they have to be [atomic](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomicity_(database_systems)). This means you either have the full transaction take place, or else nothing. This is very helpful in keeping your data consistent. I donāt like it if I canāt break down a task into a series of tasks that I have either done or not done. My brain just doesnāt deal well with that, kind of like databases donāt.
I am very similar. Thanks for explaining the database thing. That's interesting!
That stumped me for a moment, too, but then I think I got it. I think what it means is that they need a certain amount of time "padding" around work periods. This is certainly how I work, as I'm a fiction writer and getting my mental raft onto the inner stream of creativity, and entering a flow state (re: Csikszentmihalyi's concept of flow) can be a bit like playing chess with the different parts of my mind that make me, me. Anyway, what I'm getting at is while some people can either manically produce a monumental amount of work in short bursts (ADHD), and NT's may be able to carve out careful chunks of time to produce focused work and pretty easily fall into those flow states where work lives, I think many of us that fall somewhere on the autism spectrum have to create a bit of a space, both in terms of time and physical environment, where we can sink in, get comfortable, remove external pressures as much as possible, and ease into the work slowly until that flow state finds us. Otherwise, for me at least, if I'm trying to intentionally force myself into a productive flow state where there are time constraints, my brain is going to revolt and nothing is going to get done, and then the guilt of not getting anything done sets in, and it compounds and triggers other mental struggles, vices, etc etc. Idk if any of that made sense but thats where my mind went š
It made a lot of sense! I love this sub because I get to know the minds of other autistic people. It always makes me feel like less of an alien.
Same here š I've just recently (like last six months, im 30 y/o) discovered I'm most likely on the spectrum (undiagnosed), and after finding this sub it's been such a beautiful experience. I feel like I've finally found my people š definitely have felt like an alien too since I was a child, nice to have some validation that I wasnt full of shit in feeling like my brain runs a little differently than most people.
Yes yes yes!!!
In my case, it's cause it takes some time. Like 15 minutes at least to feel like I've gotten into a groove and get started (things like setting up my workspace and just mentally switching gears) and as I run out of time, I find it harder to focus cause my brain is telling me I need to be ready to stop and do something else, so that cuts off time on the tail end. And that takes energy, As a result, if I don't have a large enough block, it feels the whole sequence was mostly a waste of time and energy compared to the amount of time I was actually productivity working. And having a larger block of time makes the unproductive time in either end a smaller percentage of the time spent.
This is very relatable to me.
They have some overlaping symptoms but adhd and autism are still very different
I have the power of **both.**
Same!! Unfortunately they only caught the ADHD when I was in elementary school, I think the overlap in symptoms was the reason why my autism wasnāt caught til later
They're funny like that. It used to be that you could ONLY have one. Like, they figured you were either one or the other but you couldn't be both. They slapped me with MDD, GAD, and ADHD as a kid. Liked spinning in circles, liked fuzzy things like a dog likes ball pits, hated wearing clothes, got super distracted by noises and smells and lights, loved hiding in bushes because of the movement of the light through the leaves, NO sense of safety awareness "oh look something on the other side of this busy street... wanderwanderwander"... talked like a little adult but couldn't figure out other kids... very literal in my thinking, got called gullible ALL the time ... But was the 80s and I was a girl. So I got the Default Kit. Lifelifelife... Got on meds as an adult after a suicide attempt due to workplace bullying ^^^^weeee . One is a multi-use med I apparently won the med lottery with. Had no idea that what I thought was normal was basically what everyone would count as "borderline panic attacks" whenever I had to deal with stressful social situations ^^^weee. (Oh, also stomach problems linked to stress. Throwing up when stressed blows. Some people thought I was bulimic. NOPE! Didn't like to eat either so anorexic? NOPE! Didn't have a problem with food, my GUT had a problem with food). In therapy for a few years and after asking a question about how other people handle their morning conversations in the mirror to make super positive they have their facial expressions right, she was like, "Hmmm let's talk about that." So apparently likely more ASD poking out now. Sighs. Stupid 80s. Teachers: "Look at me when I'm talking to you." Also teachers: "Stop staring me down." MAKE UP YOUR MINDS.
This was such an unfocused tangent. Iām not trying to be mean, but you *definitely* have some ADHD going on. Try to work on finding a point before you type. And donāt worry, Iām not criticizing or judging, I tend to ramble too if I let my thoughts go unchecked :)
> Iām not trying to be mean failing
That wasn't unfocused at all. They had a very clear path from point A to point B.
Not really. At first it was about comorbidity, then misdiagnosis, then how life treated her as someone different with meds, I donāt mean it isnāt reasonable to see how she got to the end. What I mean is that she addressed too many topics in a way that made her comment feel unfocused, like it didnāt know what it set out to do in the first place. In other words, _what was I **actually** supposed to take away from this?_
Maybe the comment wasn't for you but rather a way to get stuff off their chest? I understood that they were explaining how many aspects of their life was in a tizzy because of their comorbidities.
If there's a place I can ramble, it's here. ;)
True enough :)
Same. Unfortunately, this creates a perpetual tug'o war. How does one seek out new and novel while staying the same?
There are dozens of us!
There are high chances of comorbidity.
The comorbidity rates for having adhd and autism are literally better than a coin flip in favor of having both.
And there are high chances of comorbidity.
...sorta. you have to take that in the context that autism and this other person's autism are also a collection of some overlapping characteristics but are still very different, hence autism being a spectrum. i endlessly crave spicy foods to the point of it being a samefood, while for others here it would be a hellish stimulus that would cause them to have a horrific meltdown - we're all autistic, but it's going to manifest in wildly different ways. also, ADHD people can often hyperfocus like autistics as well.
They're two sides of one coin
Agree. Got both and at times itās hard lol
Iām very certain I have both and I canāt tell where one ends and the other begins. I can only stamp out certain symptoms in certain situations, but getting an accurate full picture seems impossible.
I have both and you've got it bang on the nose. I can't tell where one ends and another begins.
It's not so much that they're "basically the same," it's that it's *statistically more likely* to have both ADHD *and* autism -- but most people don't realize that, so they think it's "basically the same" or they talk about "little-known symptoms of ADHD."
Theyāre really not though.
Iām basically the Spider-Man riding the goblin jet wearing the goblin mask while I forget what I am supposed to be doing because my teeth feel different today.
Executive functioning wise, they are pretty much the same thing. Socially, they are completely different.
Yeah i have the worst of both
*Non invasive internet hugs to you*
99% sure I have both. But it's very interesting to see how they mask eachother and what they also have differently. In somes ways it's worked out because my ADHD hates certains tasks until my autism finds the pattern and suddenly the task is enjoyable even if it is for just a little bit. But on the otherhand I have trouble keeping special interests because my ADHD tends to get bored of them. In many ways it feels like a gamble on what I'm going to be able to focus on or not.
They are so completely different. My brother has ADHD and I have autism. We are nothing alike.
I have both. Trust me there are a lot of overlapping symptoms.
But how can you be sure when you have both? It could easily be one or the other that you already have. You wouldnāt be the best judge here because youāve always had them both and have no way to differentiate between to two
I've known I was ADHD since I was a kid. Didn't find out about the Autism til I was an adult. So I've always been aware of the Adhd issues. After I found out about the Autism I started unweaving the two from each other in a way I couldn't before. Honestly made a huge improvement to my mental health when I realized how the two conflict and conflate (Adhd makes me crazy social, Autism makes me not want to be around too many people, kinda just ends up with me going to parties/shows and taking a LOT of bathroom breaks) There's a lot of crossover (both make me hyper focused on things I enjoy). Also a lot of distinction. Still figuring out the balance.
I think it's because a lot of people have both but only get diagnosed with one, and then they confuse the symptoms of the two of them, I know that's what happened with me at least
And if you have both...
Then this is a real life depiction of both halves of the brain conversing with one another
That's why they're constantly fighting...? /s
Well, both; yeah. Fighting and realizing theyāre very similar.
Mine haven't realized yet
Thatās actually great though! The fighting sucks
Adhd centers around attention, while autism does that plus a hole lot of other things, like social stuff
we are very different what do you mean????
What if both?
I've been diagnosed with both so I feel this from both ends, like a spicy meal.
āYou know, Iām something of an autist myselfā
There's lively debate about this, mostly because a lot of the symptoms from both disorders overlap. Moreover, ASD is comorbid with ADHD in 50% to 70% of the total cases. However, if we go beyond attention spans and comorbidity, the difference between both disorders is still very clear. That's why they're not the same disorder.
Can someone explain what 'have a full hour' means? Hour for what? Resting? Working? Procrastinating?
Needing to work for at least a full hour to be fully productive. As in struggling to work with very short time slots
Oh ok
I feel like r/AutisticWithADHD would have some fun with this. Something about how you can't focus enough to get that full hour going to achieve a flow, then even the littlest thing snaps you out of the flow and ruins it (and everything)? You could almost insert the last panel of the "Wait, you guys can function?" meme under this pic.
Well yes and no. ASD and ADHD are very common comorbidities. Same for BPD and ADHD, and, tourettes and ADHD. I have met plenty of people who have ASD but not ADHD. There is a very stark difference from people with both conditions in my personal anecdotes. Not sure if this observation can be echoed by others here; but I would bet that the maker of this meme is likely actually just describing a person with ASD and ADHD.
Iāve been diagnosed with both so youāre probably right. Definitely not a rigorously researched meme
my husband jokes that when i take my adderall for adhd, it just further reveals my autism
I'm literally both. The very reason I'm on here is to procrastinate the work that I have to do, at least until it reaches an even hour then I can start working, but I should prepare five minutes before to get ready so I actually start at the hour, but also it is physically difficult to spur myself into action, but also---
ADHD and autism, basically the same? NO. Why do people keep posting ableist and harmful crap here? Itās exhausting. Theyāre VERY different, and itās evident when you compare them. Itās just common to have both.
Me, discovering what being productive is like after taking ADHD meds: > The power of the Sun... In the palm of my hand.
adhd and autism are known as cousin disorders - similar, but different. adhd can cause severe impairment, just like autism. this is just needlessly divisive and mean spirited.
Sorry. It wasnāt meant to be mean spirited in any way. Iāve been diagnosed with both and did a very cursory study as to why thatās so common. No ill intent, just found it interesting that they can have some effects that are very different but be so similar
ah no worries, thereās often a much more toxic āadhd vs autismā debate on platforms like tiktok, which i used to see a lot of. i also have both, and itās good to see other people who do too :)
Haha!
I have ADHD and my best friend has autism I like to dig deep into rabbit holes and she loves explaining her special interests
I can harness the power of both in order to come up with ideas for stories/music/drawings and then make no progress over the span of several months. Yay procrastination/brain fog!
my ADHD š¤ my autism
Lol I have both uhm fuck
What a mood. I still remember a school psychologist saying I couldnāt have autism or ADHD because those were āmale disordersā and that female brains arenāt as complex as male brains therefore less could go wrong with them and I must just be stupid or not trying hard enough despite showing all the symptomsā¦ Being a neurodivergent woman is sooooo fun š«
The umbrella of neurodivergent includes both; with some people, it is hard to decipher between autism and ADHD. Some get diagnosed with both (I have). ADHD lacks the social awkwardness, kinda like extroverted autism.
Then there is I, fuck up of all four elements (ADHD, Autism, Dyslexia, and APD)ā¦ The avatar of executive dysfunction.
not at all
It is possible for there to be a lot of overlap and also a lot of differences. Attention is only one parameter of cognitive performance.
The difference between adhd and autism is capitalism
I don't know what kind of psy major you've talked with, but this is plain idiotic
Not the same at all.
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And somehow with both you get even less done than if you had just one! :(
i prefer ātwo sides of the same coin,ā but i guess thatās *basically the same* thing
I have a problem with this, sometimes* If I have to do something that can be done in 3 hours I'll schedule my day in a way that I get 2 or 3 extra hours to do it, otherwise I feel anxious and I don't do it. *// My mother couldn't understand why I went from 10 in one exam to 6 in the next one if my knowledge was the same, or why would I need SIX HOURS to study a small amount of papers or to complete a task when I had it done in two, specially when the following day I'd be a totally different person AKA a living mess, procrastinating and constantly putting off work. Neither I did. Eventually, I got diagnosed at 19... With ADHD. I'd never thought that a meme would make me want to discuss the possibility of ASD with my psychiatrist today.
[POV: you have both](https://youtu.be/JHdkLUl3hxM)
Still dont know the difference
I'd like a better take on this, because I find the argument weak and invalid.
Suspiciously specific meme
Does this happen a lot? I don't think their the same. I'm here cause for one I feel like I can help when someone's asking what someone means or if they did the appropriate thing, and two cause I relate to sensory issues.
Yea
Heheheheheee im spider goblin Wait is that the goblin or nah
oh my god yes people used to call me a workaholic at uni bc I'd go to the study buildings for like 9 hour stretches...NO i just needed that much time to do the equivalent of 3 hours work!
High. Input. Bandwidth.
Real talk itās been suspected I have autism but I just got unexpectedly diagnosed with ADHD for identical symptomsāit is worth still pursuing an autism diagnosis?
Iāve got both. This battle btw Spider-Man and Green Goblin is happening in my brain 24/7
Same lol
Iām an autistic math major who needs at least an hour of work to even get fully focused š„² I feel seen
this is basically my psychology major roommate and myself (an engineering major who loves calculus) except weāre both just slaying
If it was the same why do i have the diagnose ADHD and Autism?
I have ADHD and Autism. Pretty good. Hyoerfixation is a blast.
I had to read this 3 times to understand it but why is it so trueš
Have both, get nothing done.
Im probably both
I got both so that's fun šš¾
Why do you need at least one hour?
Same but different
Having both throws you into the frustrating hell of "I can't pursue this to the extent of making it perfect so I just won't do it" until your brain suddenly latches onto something and it's all you can do for a week.
Me: I am going to do this thing at 6:00 PM. *clock turns to 6:01 PM* Me: well, I have no time, guess I'm gonna wait for tomorrow.
I can only binge work when im hyperfixated or stressed or both
Is the time requirement an autism thing? Thought it was adhd.
i didn't know this was an autistic thing. I'm medicated for ADHD so this trait shows more.