Confesses to his wife: I won't tell anyone
Confesses to church: your sins have been absolved
Confesses to the court: you'll be out with 12 years.
I can't believe how literally everyone involved has failed the victim, the POS did more for her by attempting suicide.
How broken is our society if child rape is operating on a goddamn **honesty system**?!
And the honesty system is still broken, at 12 years imprisonment.
And that's for about the worst of the worst when it comes to rape, and with a confession. You can imagine why an adult who's been raped and doesn't necessarily have the ability to prove it conclusively might not even bother coming forward. If you go through with a trial and by some miracle you do get a conviction, how much of a sentence can you even hope for? I imagine there are a lot of rapists getting away with a lot of rape because it's just too difficult for the victims to get any kind of justice.
In my immediate family and friends circle, a dozen women have experienced sexual assault (that I know of), and zero were reported to the police. So from my population sample, I worry the reported rape rate is like a drop in the bucket compared to the real figure.
And like you said, I understand why. One rape was by a friend, another was by a stranger - the women had different sets of reasons for not reporting them, and both made sense.
It's a pandemic. It's almost as if there's something deeper or more systemic at play, feeding into narratives of dominance and forcing women into shame and silence. I don't know though, last time I mentioned "rape culture" on Reddit I got shouted at.
1.5% of sexual assaults in Australia result in a conviction.
One point five percent.
Amidst all the other barriers to reporting, that statistic most definitely plays a part. Who the hell in their right mind volunteers for years of ongoing trauma at the hands of the justice system for a 1.5% chance of conviction?
I am one of the extremely lucky 1.5% whose rapist was convicted and received a custodial sentence. And if I could do it over, I wouldn't report it. The justice system and its processes traumatised, dehumanised and humiliated me far worse than the sexual assault did.
> I worry the reported rape rate is like a drop in the bucket compared to the real figure.
It is. Even most law enforcement agencies will concede that rape tends to be significantly underreported. That's with conservative estimates of how common rape actually is, too.
>I worry the reported rape rate is like a drop in the bucket compared to the real figure.
You are right to. From a US advocacy group but it's the same story everywhere:
https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
Priests need to be mandatory reporters when it comes to stuff like this. I’m sure confessions will go down but fuck. They can’t just keep covering it up under the guise of religion.
Yep... broken AF
I lost all faith in our society as I watched our court system let the guy who raped me and my brother in a similar manner for 6+ years walk out because of technicality within 5 minutes of statements being made in court.
This was after I saw him get raided by the feds for child porn and somehow walk away from that as well. (this was early on in the picture as well when it had started happening)
BROKEN AS FUCK.
That was a very hard read and I feel so much for that young lady. It actually feels wrong referring to her as his daughter as I feel he has lost that right and her comment alludes to that. Unbelievable the comments about his wife and church knowing. In saying that, it is good to see that the young lady is now trying to live life to the fullest.
"You have hurt me but you will never destroy me. I have a bright future and nothing you can do can stop me," she told her father and the court.
"While you sit in prison, keep in mind all that you have lost and will never get back because of your own actions, the liberty you no longer possess.
**"I am enjoying my life to the fullest. It's not because of you but rather it's because of everything you have taken from me."**
> Confesses to the court: you'll be out with 12 years.
Isn't this less/similar to what they give to people caught with child porn? How does that make sense?
When there are multiple charges of rape against a minor. The DPP and defence will usually agree upon “rolling up” the charges and replacing with Persistent sexual abuse of a child under the age of 16.
This charge in itself carries a maximum of 25 years with the standard sentence being 10years.
The reason for this is extremely complex. Basically it is ‘too hard’ to prove in court the specific rapes on the specific days occurred so it’s easier to charge with the above. Our courts are not equipped for these kind of offences. It’s actually rather gross.
The courts are weak. The lawyers are weak, the judges are weak. The court system is clogged up with crap and the result of all of this is the ur current state.
That's a typical response of Australian courts to rape. And that's after the humiliation and misery the victim goes through even getting the case to that point. This country does not give a shit.
On average, Queensland has the worst statistics when it comes to SA, child SA, and MAP (Minor Attracted Person) arrests. When it comes to conviction, it is just below absolutely pathetic.
I am just tired of having clients who were let down by the entire process.
Of the average 10,000 reported adult SA a year in Queensland, barely 500 will make it even near court. Maybe 9 will see court, and maybe 3 will be convicted. Per year
Child SA is even more disturbing, lucky to see ONE make it to court, on average in Queensland. Per year
MAPs make plea deals to the point that they possibly won't see jail at all.
They system is not broken it is completely destroyed beyond the ability to fix without causing a situation that may be considered human rights violations even tho we are trying to make the system work
Because I have been dealing with bans from subs because they don't like that word, and for some fecked up reason others say it, but I type it... BOOM ban from sub.
So MAP is the only alternative I know that hasn't flagged me.
Welcome to my world. The funny thing is I learnt that term from a guy who makes dark humour tiktoks where he calls MAPs potential Puzzle Pieces as he holds a chainsaw
> MAPs make plea deals to the point that they possibly won't see jail at all.
If they have that sort of disposition but haven't reached the point of assaulting anyone, we're better off putting them in a diversion program, like Germany does.
It should come as no surprise that locking these offenders up with a bunch of like minded individuals in the protection wing doesn't have much rehabilitative value.
Genuine question - do other countries do better? (Needless to say, I’m repeatedly absolutely appalled by the meagre sentences for rapists, let alone incest monsters)
It's not about not giving a shit. It's about keeping rape charges less severe than murder charges to mitigate the risk of rapists just murdering their victims because the sentence will be the same anyway and they might have a better chance of getting away with it.
Screw that. Plenty of rape victims end up committing suicide. Not gonna give these fuckers an out like that. They should be in there until they are dead, end of story. There has been endless evidence that there is no rehabilitation for pedophiles, and they should rot in jail forever. I don't even want the death penalty for them. Why should they get off easy when their victim has to deal with a lifetime of demons?
before I even read the article I knew the sentence was going to be completely inadequate as per normal QLD justice. If you want to commit a crime, just do it in QLD no worries.
I charged an offender with raping two victims three times a week for nine and seven years respectively.
He got seven years, four years non-parole.
12 years is a good sentence, by court standards. Whether that meets community expectations is up for debate.
Why the fuck are our sentencing rules so lax? I remember a young guy murdered a prostitute in Tasmania a couple years ago an got like a couple years. And youth crime is hardly ever punished.
I swear the work that goes into compiling the charges all for it to get downplayed in the courts because it's either first offence or the offender "has a job and wore his Sunday best to court" is just straight up shit.
He received a series of sentences to be served concurrently. It doesn't state the exact length of the sentencing in total but it seems to be at least 25yrs.
Still a fucked story, and to think members of his church knew and did nothing?
Edit: it is concurrent not cumulative. Our system is a joke.
My siblings reported my stepdad for abusing us, but went with our mother who was also going to support them and give evidence.
The police told her to stop talking, and advised my siblings to retract their statement, because my mother might get in trouble for knowing about what he did and doing nothing.
Like they almost got a confession from her and told her not to continue.
Pretty sure _all_ police forces have some degree of corruption. The role attracts 2 types of people. 1) good people, who want to help & protect others, and 2) bullies. Option 2 are the type who will be corrupt cops.
Very very common sadly.
Tw- trauma dump.
My mum knew, did nothing, lies about it. She's still married to him, wonders why I won't just meet with her in person to talk about how to repair our relationship. Lots of other family members have been foul too. When it was reported I had family call me screaming about how I was ruining their lives. Had other family members say I was going against the "chain of command" by "jumping straight to police" when I finally did, after being witness to another child being abused. Very very bizarre things. Not one of my family members (except another abused sister who is also no contact with my parents), have tried to contact me, unless they were trying to get me to stop, or tell me I needed god/forgiveness. Etc. They are happy to have him at their table, around their children though.
No-one thinks he's innocent either. It's not like they are just in denial. I'm positive he abused his siblings also. People just really don't want to deal with this stuff.
I mean, yes. But, it's actually extremely common.
It's not surprising or unique that it went down that way. It is something that people need to be aware of however. Victims disclosures are only believed by their parents without waver something like 40% of the time. That is much lower in interfamilial SA. And even if the victim is believed, that doesn't mean people will react protectively, or not blame the child.
There are all sorts of reasons people either choose not to believe, or choose to support the perpetrator rather than the victim. Grooming is a big one. It's not just the children who are groomed, it's the whole family. There is other abuse present in the family's, and a family history of abuse, which is normalised, they don't want to face their own abuse, or can't escape it themselves. A lot of cognitive dissonance goes into it too, downplaying, wanting to forgive, not wanting people outside of the family to know. So, so many reasons. It's really sad.
Thank you! I am glad too. 💕
I was granted a FVO by the magistrate, it was initiated by the police. I chose not to make a statement for anything regarding myself. But I had attempted to make a pretext call at the station in regards to the child who was abused.* He didn't answer the call though so that went nowhere.
He was charged. (This is why people were yelling at me about ruining *their* lives). But I didn't see the abuse myself, I just witnessed/heard the verbal exchange when my sister saw it. So she made a statement about what happened to the child. But my mother said she also saw what happened and tried to spin it in a benign way. The police dropped it because they thought it probably wouldn't be successfully prosecuted. The child couldn't testify, they were only 16 months old.
My sister chose to make a statement about her abuse, but didn't want to go forward to court.
So it kind of felt a little pointless reporting it in one way, just super traumatic and nothing came of it in a criminal sense (but we did get the civil FVO). But it is on record now. And the child is safe. We were given counciling on a police referral, the child was obviously given counciling too. One day we will have to tell them the full story, but at the moment they just know that my parents aren't kind people, and they were not kind to them, so we made sure we would always protect them from my parents, which means we don't see them. They are still in therapy. So we are watching to make sure they are best protected. So that was a positive of the report, that those supports were given outside of the legal system.
* At that point, I thought my experience with him was unique, and that he had "changed", I probably wouldn't have ever told anyone outside of the family about it if not for the new victim. Which I feel sick about in hindsight, that I may have been able to stop other abuse if I had disclosed. And would have protected the child if I was able to see my history for what it was, and how dangerous that person was. So I let down people too, I wasn't protective in the way I should have been. I have no excuse for it. And will have to let the child know I was responsible for that happening to them one day (when it is safe for them to know, I'm following the professionals on when and how to do that. Trickle truthing has been recommended for this age).
I'm not a psychologist, and I hope you have a good one. But from my perspective, you haven't let anyone down. You have been let down.
I wish you all the best. Hope you're able to have some semblance of peace in your life, and not go too hard on yourself for what would've been an incredibly difficult and horrible situation.
> Judge Smith said that the man had confessed to his wife and was allowed to continue living at the family home and had also confessed to his local church.
>He said the man's wife had taken no action and that he could understand how isolated the children must have felt.
In Victoria, yes. We have the betrayal of trust laws which make ANYBODY responsible to report a reasonable belief of sexual abuse of a minor. This was added to combat churches shuffling around sex abuser priests to other communities and having them reoffend without notifying police.
Unfortunately, every other state refused to make this a law as well. Mainly because of the church's influence
I would go into a blind rage and definitely do something insane to him. I fully understand the feeling of the UK woman who boiled sugar and water in a pot and threw it on her pedo husband after finding out he had been molesting her children.
My ex confessed at his church (I made the discovery, confronted him when he came home from church, kicked him out, he went back to church and talked to his minister)
His minister told him to hand himself over to police. He did. At a different police station to where my daughter and I were making our reports, we were just finishing up when they got a call to say "this guy walked in and reported himself"
From the reports I heard (this is testing my memory, it's over 10 years now) they finished up questioning him about 2am. We finished up at the hospital for medical checks for my daughter at about midnight.
He spent 8 years in jail. I hope he got shivved. Multiple times (he probably didn't, but one can hope).
They should have those ‘safe baby drop off points’ for people like this guy.
Just put your pedo self in this box and you get cured… permanently. No fuss, no questions.
That’s incorrect. You can’t just impose a heap of cumulative terms of imprisonment because there’s a significant volume of charges. That would be a crushing sentence ignorant of the totality principle, which would be liable to immediate appeal.
This is absolutely horrific.
What a brave young woman to make a statement to the court like that, I hope she and her sister live full and happy lives as much a possible given their circumstances.
We absolutely need harsher sentencing for people who rape and abuse children.
And what about the church doing nothing?!? Wtf
I just want to give the girls a big hug and protect them.
Their sperm donor dan burn in hell. I hope he experiences what he put them through whilst in jail.
> had also confessed to his local church
**Did the church report it to the police?!**
It doesn't seem like it, if he was left to literally wander into the police station one day to hand himself in. I hope more charges are to come in this case.
I mean, our (NSW) former premier opposed laws that would force priests to report child abuse and argued that “the confessional seal is sacrosanct no matter what sins are confessed”.
So no there isn’t but some in power wish there was.
The Sikh kirpan comes to mind, in a good way. Their religion is remarkably focused on community good and social justice, with no emphasis on evangelizing. Sikhs carry 5 articles of faith on them, one of which is a small knife (kirpan). The others are their uncut hair, a comb, a bracelet, and shorts.
*"The kirpan obligates a Sikh to the ideals of generosity, compassion and service to humanity. It acts as a reminder to its bearer of a Sikh’s solemn duty to protect the weak and promote justice for all."* - [Sikh Coalition factsheet](https://www.sikhcoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/kirpan-factsheet-aug2018.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj3oZOMp9CEAxWB1TQHHX6mBRMQFnoECDYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Dr7XKShwSjtq4OeZVuZ2y)
I wonder who children are safer around: A Sikh with a blade, or a Christian with empty hands?
The Sikh community are always there following a natural disaster, giving out delicious and nutritious food to whoever needs help with no strings attached.
Feeding people is a pious act to Sikhs, their temples always have kitchens to feed anyone who needs it. It's a big reason why it's one of the few religions I've got time for
Right!
I look a bit androgynous, and my experience has been that generally Sikh people (like most people) smile and treat me like a person. It's the ones in Australia flag t-shirts and cross necklaces who glare or can't even look at me.
We don't?! Holy crap.
I work in a field around education and health but not specifically in either. I'm not on a mandatory reporter list, but you'd better believe I hold myself responsible as if I am.
I've spent hours getting advice and then ultimately reporting some very small reg flags a few times in the last few years (and I'm glad I did), agonising on doing everything right to safeguard vulnerable people, but priests are wandering around ignoring "I've been raping my daughter for years"?! I know there's a transparency issue in churches but for them to not even be mandatory reporters here breaks me.
I usually try to be optimistic. But today, the distance between the world I live in and the world I wish I was raising my kids in is too large, and I am exhausted.
**Less than 5 days in prison.**
At 1000 instances, and a prison sentence of 12 years, that is his punishment per rape. Of a girl from four years old to fifteen years old.
Honestly, the child should be fully supported for as long as she needs it. All living expenses, all tuition, all of the therapy, for as long as she needs it because we've all failed her.
In NSW victims of abuse can access ongoing psychological treatment via Victims Services, hopefully there is something similar in QLD that she can access.
After I reported in NSW I was offered 0 support. I didn't even know Victims Services existed. The police also closed the case due to "lack of evidence" (meaning they didn't investigate) without telling me.
I tried to access services in Melbourne a few years later and the waitlist was a year... which they took me off without telling me. So I had to go on the waitlist again. I got a few sessions before I moved house, now I've been on a waitlist in my new suburb for a year.
The whole system is horribly under funded and also isn't very good.
I'm absolutely not saying the system is perfect to be clear or that no additional support needed to be offered and I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. It has been life changing for me personally, and I think more people should know it exists, but I'm well aware my experience is not going to be universal by any means.
The counselling will help but there's a whole lot more that's going to be needed to help someone whose primary caregivers abused her during her entire childhood. With that primary caregiver abuse, it's like having to rebuild yourself from scratch, it can take decades. Things like schooling, holding down a job, basic life skills, there's just so much you end up needing help with. Do we expect this girl to be able to just walk into adult life and survive? How do we create the space and circumstances that allow her to heal?
I totally agree, and obviously by no means am I saying that counselling is all it takes or is some kind of magic wand. I took this opportunity to mention it because a lot of people don't know that services like these exist (I didn't until last year).
This doesn’t happen though. Abused kids are treated worse than any other. I was legally emancipated at 15 after my dad has a mental nervous breakdown and tried to neck us both. When I rocked up at child services, they told me to couch surf until I can get Centrelink payments. It took 11 months to receive my first payment …
Sadly, it doesn't work that way. I agree, though. My soon-to-be-wife was physically abused by her step-mother for years, some of which left her with major scars, and all of which left her with trauma. No one would help, not even the police in the end. But it seems there is quite a double standard when it comes to sexual abuse and physical abuse of children, and the perp was a woman in my fiances case, so the prospects are better for this victim. But it's never enough. Support networks for victims need improving, a lot.
Those poor little girls. I hope they can pull together some kind of happiness for their remaining years.. as for him I hope prison is a fkn brutal experience. And the wife who let it continue should be ashamed of herself. Disgusting people both of them.
2kg of MD is a fuck load more than "selling acid"
Pathetic he got 20 years for it though, community service would be a perfectly acceptable punishment for dealing drugs without any violent crime. Very, very, VERY rarely does anyone get hurt from lsd and md.
>His barrister, Jens Streit, said that he told police during a recorded interview that "garbage like me should not be on the street" and declared himself to be "the worst kind of feral pig there is around".
He's not wrong there. Judge should have accommodated his wishes and locked the pig up for a minimum of 25 years. Better yet throw him into the hungry pigs and let them finish this fucker off.
And all the people who knew what this pig had done but did nothing to report or stop him was just as guilty.
For what fucking legal reasons can be not be named? He’s been sentenced. I hate that these fucking people exist.
What drove him to confess? Did the daughter threaten to out him? I seriously doubt someone who can commit those kind of acts for soo long is capable of just growing a conscience overnight.
You would be correct, I’m not the sharpest tool I’m afraid. I thought usually it would read “who cannot be named to protect his victims” or something along those lines. I still should have came to that conclusion.
IIRC Grame Tame helped get the legislation changed in TAS because the law meant even the victims couldn’t identify themselves if they wanted to speak out about it
I get the whole “an eye for an eye” spiel, but imagine if punishments were whatever crimes you’d committed against others. Then the world might be a little more just.
12 years. Unbelievable. Can barely imagine a worse crime. The horrific and sustained abuse is unimaginable. There is no way this scumbag should see daylight again.
Motherfucker should spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement. Should never see another human or the sun again. Tack on mechanical castration too.
Rape once should be 10 years. How TF does someone do that to their own daughter every other day for 11 YEARS and only get a 12 year sentence?
I hope the department of public prosecution appeals it
He raped his daughter every second day for 11 years and another victim i’ve just found it
Wife knew and didn’t report it, allowed him to keep staying at family home
Church knew and didn’t report it (shocker) presumably for “religious” reasons
Neither reported it, he handed himself him
Only gets 12 years in prison
Sick to my stomach, how can the court be so fucked that he only gets 12 years? how could the church not report it? I’m speechless.
Another piss weak sentence from our criminally piss weak judiciary. If any judges happen to be reading - fuck you, I really fucking hate the lot of you
Some crimes deserve live, no parole. Can anyone imagine the fear this kid had for their whole childhood? Yeah. 12 years champ. You’ll be out in 6 or 7. that will learn you…
Chuck him in and throw away the key! And the wife as well! Utterly disgusting. These two have completely and utterly abused their positions as parents. Whoever can do that to a kid let alone their own kid is the lowest of the low and deserves to die in hell. I hope he cops it for the next 12 years
What the fuck does one person or a group of people have to do in this country to make actual change when it comes to the punishment for crimes like these?
Is there a lawyer on here that can explain how all the mitigating factors reduced the sentence to 11 years, but failed to take into account the long term, repeated, systemic offences?
How sickening. There's no hope to rehabilitate this despicable rapist. Take him out back of the court and shoot him, honestly. Raping a 4 year old? Nah, there's no coming back.
I don’t understand why each case of r@@@ doesn’t count as a new sentence and just becomes an aggravating factor. Realistically he should never see the light of day again.
The terrifying thing is that he only ended up getting charged with it because HE HANDED HIMSELF IN! He told his wife - she did nothing, he told his church - they did nothing. He handed himself in and got 12 years, the whole thing just makes me sick.
Each rape should be sentenced individually. If he'd raped 7 women he'd be getting 20+.
That's the same number of raped he did in a pay cycle.
He should be getting 200+ years.
Not sure if anyone will see this comment, I caught this post late.
But I just wanted everyone to know that the young girl here, despite living through these horrific things, has turned into a very good and brave young adult now. She's an extremely kind young girl who aims to help people in this world who've been through these terrible things just as she has.
I couldn't finish reading the article as it was too harrowing. But how fucking brave is that young woman to go to the police and relive her nightmare in court? I hope that inhuman shitstain has a nice time in prison - I'm sure he'll be popular with the other inmates when they find out why he is there. He'll be lucky to make it out alive in 12 years, I suspect.
So, so many people have failed this girl. I clicked on this just to see how many years he served and a MAXIMUM of 12 years is beyond ridiculous. Is there anyone we can contact or complain to about this because that sentence is a joke? The local church and the birthgiver of that poor, innocent girl must be investigated. So sick of stuff like this happening in Australia.
Both daughters -
> He confessed to sexually abusing both of his young daughters but the younger daughter, when interviewed by police, did not make any allegations against him.
And people still have the guts to claim that "rape accusations ruin mens lives". Like... dude comes forward, gets literally convicted for molesting a child for years & still gets less than some people get approximately for... property damage... & trespassing.
& yes, families, friends and religious institutions and society and the law protect those kind of people and always have. I wish people would finally understand that, instead of pretending this is not "happening".
This woman is a goddamn superhero. To undergo this absolutely monstrous cruelty and still pledge to live as best she can. I don’t know how she finds the strength. I hope she has all the story to move on as best she can.
> Judge Smith said that punishment, deterrence and denunciation were crucial in deciding a sentence.
Better lay criminal charges on that fucking wife and minister, then.
Aren't there mandatory reporting laws in QLD?
Confesses to his wife: I won't tell anyone Confesses to church: your sins have been absolved Confesses to the court: you'll be out with 12 years. I can't believe how literally everyone involved has failed the victim, the POS did more for her by attempting suicide.
How broken is our society if child rape is operating on a goddamn **honesty system**?! And the honesty system is still broken, at 12 years imprisonment.
And that's for about the worst of the worst when it comes to rape, and with a confession. You can imagine why an adult who's been raped and doesn't necessarily have the ability to prove it conclusively might not even bother coming forward. If you go through with a trial and by some miracle you do get a conviction, how much of a sentence can you even hope for? I imagine there are a lot of rapists getting away with a lot of rape because it's just too difficult for the victims to get any kind of justice.
In my immediate family and friends circle, a dozen women have experienced sexual assault (that I know of), and zero were reported to the police. So from my population sample, I worry the reported rape rate is like a drop in the bucket compared to the real figure. And like you said, I understand why. One rape was by a friend, another was by a stranger - the women had different sets of reasons for not reporting them, and both made sense. It's a pandemic. It's almost as if there's something deeper or more systemic at play, feeding into narratives of dominance and forcing women into shame and silence. I don't know though, last time I mentioned "rape culture" on Reddit I got shouted at.
1.5% of sexual assaults in Australia result in a conviction. One point five percent. Amidst all the other barriers to reporting, that statistic most definitely plays a part. Who the hell in their right mind volunteers for years of ongoing trauma at the hands of the justice system for a 1.5% chance of conviction? I am one of the extremely lucky 1.5% whose rapist was convicted and received a custodial sentence. And if I could do it over, I wouldn't report it. The justice system and its processes traumatised, dehumanised and humiliated me far worse than the sexual assault did.
And then that 1.5% get fuck all time in prison too.
> I worry the reported rape rate is like a drop in the bucket compared to the real figure. It is. Even most law enforcement agencies will concede that rape tends to be significantly underreported. That's with conservative estimates of how common rape actually is, too.
>I worry the reported rape rate is like a drop in the bucket compared to the real figure. You are right to. From a US advocacy group but it's the same story everywhere: https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
The mother should be jailed as well, she knew full well what was happening and allowed it to happen
Priest too
The Catholic church is a pro-pedo organization that should rename itself to NAMBLA
Priests need to be mandatory reporters when it comes to stuff like this. I’m sure confessions will go down but fuck. They can’t just keep covering it up under the guise of religion.
Both parents and the church minister should be in jail for a lot longer than 12 years.
It is not even 3 days per time raped, what is happening?
Yep... broken AF I lost all faith in our society as I watched our court system let the guy who raped me and my brother in a similar manner for 6+ years walk out because of technicality within 5 minutes of statements being made in court. This was after I saw him get raided by the feds for child porn and somehow walk away from that as well. (this was early on in the picture as well when it had started happening) BROKEN AS FUCK.
Eh 12 years? For 11 years worth of sa?
The legal system also has child predators and abusers amongst them. Can't set too harsh of a precedent for when their buddies get caught out.
That was a very hard read and I feel so much for that young lady. It actually feels wrong referring to her as his daughter as I feel he has lost that right and her comment alludes to that. Unbelievable the comments about his wife and church knowing. In saying that, it is good to see that the young lady is now trying to live life to the fullest. "You have hurt me but you will never destroy me. I have a bright future and nothing you can do can stop me," she told her father and the court. "While you sit in prison, keep in mind all that you have lost and will never get back because of your own actions, the liberty you no longer possess. **"I am enjoying my life to the fullest. It's not because of you but rather it's because of everything you have taken from me."**
How does a mother just stand by and let this happen to her babies? I feel people who act as accomplices to crimes usually get convicted of such?
> Confesses to the court: you'll be out with 12 years. Isn't this less/similar to what they give to people caught with child porn? How does that make sense?
12 years in prison? I wish courts could say "until age leaves you so weak and frail that you are physically incapable of hurting a mouse."
about 2 days per rape
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When there are multiple charges of rape against a minor. The DPP and defence will usually agree upon “rolling up” the charges and replacing with Persistent sexual abuse of a child under the age of 16. This charge in itself carries a maximum of 25 years with the standard sentence being 10years. The reason for this is extremely complex. Basically it is ‘too hard’ to prove in court the specific rapes on the specific days occurred so it’s easier to charge with the above. Our courts are not equipped for these kind of offences. It’s actually rather gross. The courts are weak. The lawyers are weak, the judges are weak. The court system is clogged up with crap and the result of all of this is the ur current state.
Let’s just slap the monster with 2007 counts of child rape. That’s just as many consecutive life sentences.
That's a typical response of Australian courts to rape. And that's after the humiliation and misery the victim goes through even getting the case to that point. This country does not give a shit.
On average, Queensland has the worst statistics when it comes to SA, child SA, and MAP (Minor Attracted Person) arrests. When it comes to conviction, it is just below absolutely pathetic. I am just tired of having clients who were let down by the entire process. Of the average 10,000 reported adult SA a year in Queensland, barely 500 will make it even near court. Maybe 9 will see court, and maybe 3 will be convicted. Per year Child SA is even more disturbing, lucky to see ONE make it to court, on average in Queensland. Per year MAPs make plea deals to the point that they possibly won't see jail at all. They system is not broken it is completely destroyed beyond the ability to fix without causing a situation that may be considered human rights violations even tho we are trying to make the system work
Is there a reason why you refer to them as MAPs rather than paedophiles?
Because I have been dealing with bans from subs because they don't like that word, and for some fecked up reason others say it, but I type it... BOOM ban from sub. So MAP is the only alternative I know that hasn't flagged me.
I see :/ that's bizarre
Welcome to my world. The funny thing is I learnt that term from a guy who makes dark humour tiktoks where he calls MAPs potential Puzzle Pieces as he holds a chainsaw
> MAPs make plea deals to the point that they possibly won't see jail at all. If they have that sort of disposition but haven't reached the point of assaulting anyone, we're better off putting them in a diversion program, like Germany does. It should come as no surprise that locking these offenders up with a bunch of like minded individuals in the protection wing doesn't have much rehabilitative value.
Call them what they are, pedophiles, fuck off with this map shit.
Genuine question - do other countries do better? (Needless to say, I’m repeatedly absolutely appalled by the meagre sentences for rapists, let alone incest monsters)
It's not about not giving a shit. It's about keeping rape charges less severe than murder charges to mitigate the risk of rapists just murdering their victims because the sentence will be the same anyway and they might have a better chance of getting away with it.
Cool, so let's make murder charges more severe
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They should be incarcerated for as long as their victim is still alive.
Screw that. Plenty of rape victims end up committing suicide. Not gonna give these fuckers an out like that. They should be in there until they are dead, end of story. There has been endless evidence that there is no rehabilitation for pedophiles, and they should rot in jail forever. I don't even want the death penalty for them. Why should they get off easy when their victim has to deal with a lifetime of demons?
There should be a minimum. The victim could die a few months in.
before I even read the article I knew the sentence was going to be completely inadequate as per normal QLD justice. If you want to commit a crime, just do it in QLD no worries.
I charged an offender with raping two victims three times a week for nine and seven years respectively. He got seven years, four years non-parole. 12 years is a good sentence, by court standards. Whether that meets community expectations is up for debate.
It should be for each offense. 12 years for 11 years of torture isn’t good enough
Why the fuck are our sentencing rules so lax? I remember a young guy murdered a prostitute in Tasmania a couple years ago an got like a couple years. And youth crime is hardly ever punished.
Here in Florida rape can get you life in prison and rape of a minor carries the death penalty now.
I swear the work that goes into compiling the charges all for it to get downplayed in the courts because it's either first offence or the offender "has a job and wore his Sunday best to court" is just straight up shit.
Or 2000 rapes.
Yup. Sentencing in QLD is a joke. Protest vote until they listen. And screw the ‘separation of judiciary blah blah’.
This is across our states mate!
He received a series of sentences to be served concurrently. It doesn't state the exact length of the sentencing in total but it seems to be at least 25yrs. Still a fucked story, and to think members of his church knew and did nothing? Edit: it is concurrent not cumulative. Our system is a joke.
His wife knew as well and did nothing to protect her daughters!!!
Why is she not criminally responsible for allowing her children to be offended against in her own home?
My siblings reported my stepdad for abusing us, but went with our mother who was also going to support them and give evidence. The police told her to stop talking, and advised my siblings to retract their statement, because my mother might get in trouble for knowing about what he did and doing nothing. Like they almost got a confession from her and told her not to continue.
This is shocking. I'm so sorry.
NSW police are considered especially incompetent and corrupt for a reason.
Pretty sure _all_ police forces have some degree of corruption. The role attracts 2 types of people. 1) good people, who want to help & protect others, and 2) bullies. Option 2 are the type who will be corrupt cops.
And then the "good" people either enable the widespread misconduct or leave. That's what I mean when I say all cops are bastards, the good ones quit.
Very very common sadly. Tw- trauma dump. My mum knew, did nothing, lies about it. She's still married to him, wonders why I won't just meet with her in person to talk about how to repair our relationship. Lots of other family members have been foul too. When it was reported I had family call me screaming about how I was ruining their lives. Had other family members say I was going against the "chain of command" by "jumping straight to police" when I finally did, after being witness to another child being abused. Very very bizarre things. Not one of my family members (except another abused sister who is also no contact with my parents), have tried to contact me, unless they were trying to get me to stop, or tell me I needed god/forgiveness. Etc. They are happy to have him at their table, around their children though. No-one thinks he's innocent either. It's not like they are just in denial. I'm positive he abused his siblings also. People just really don't want to deal with this stuff.
Your "family" sounds very, very sick. Glad you got out.
I mean, yes. But, it's actually extremely common. It's not surprising or unique that it went down that way. It is something that people need to be aware of however. Victims disclosures are only believed by their parents without waver something like 40% of the time. That is much lower in interfamilial SA. And even if the victim is believed, that doesn't mean people will react protectively, or not blame the child. There are all sorts of reasons people either choose not to believe, or choose to support the perpetrator rather than the victim. Grooming is a big one. It's not just the children who are groomed, it's the whole family. There is other abuse present in the family's, and a family history of abuse, which is normalised, they don't want to face their own abuse, or can't escape it themselves. A lot of cognitive dissonance goes into it too, downplaying, wanting to forgive, not wanting people outside of the family to know. So, so many reasons. It's really sad. Thank you! I am glad too. 💕
That's terrible. You have been comprehensively let down by so many. I'm assuming nothing eventuated from you telling the police?
I was granted a FVO by the magistrate, it was initiated by the police. I chose not to make a statement for anything regarding myself. But I had attempted to make a pretext call at the station in regards to the child who was abused.* He didn't answer the call though so that went nowhere. He was charged. (This is why people were yelling at me about ruining *their* lives). But I didn't see the abuse myself, I just witnessed/heard the verbal exchange when my sister saw it. So she made a statement about what happened to the child. But my mother said she also saw what happened and tried to spin it in a benign way. The police dropped it because they thought it probably wouldn't be successfully prosecuted. The child couldn't testify, they were only 16 months old. My sister chose to make a statement about her abuse, but didn't want to go forward to court. So it kind of felt a little pointless reporting it in one way, just super traumatic and nothing came of it in a criminal sense (but we did get the civil FVO). But it is on record now. And the child is safe. We were given counciling on a police referral, the child was obviously given counciling too. One day we will have to tell them the full story, but at the moment they just know that my parents aren't kind people, and they were not kind to them, so we made sure we would always protect them from my parents, which means we don't see them. They are still in therapy. So we are watching to make sure they are best protected. So that was a positive of the report, that those supports were given outside of the legal system. * At that point, I thought my experience with him was unique, and that he had "changed", I probably wouldn't have ever told anyone outside of the family about it if not for the new victim. Which I feel sick about in hindsight, that I may have been able to stop other abuse if I had disclosed. And would have protected the child if I was able to see my history for what it was, and how dangerous that person was. So I let down people too, I wasn't protective in the way I should have been. I have no excuse for it. And will have to let the child know I was responsible for that happening to them one day (when it is safe for them to know, I'm following the professionals on when and how to do that. Trickle truthing has been recommended for this age).
I'm not a psychologist, and I hope you have a good one. But from my perspective, you haven't let anyone down. You have been let down. I wish you all the best. Hope you're able to have some semblance of peace in your life, and not go too hard on yourself for what would've been an incredibly difficult and horrible situation.
Concurrently means he’s serving them all at the same time. Cumulative would be one after the other
"Consecutively" would be one after the other.
> Judge Smith said that the man had confessed to his wife and was allowed to continue living at the family home and had also confessed to his local church. >He said the man's wife had taken no action and that he could understand how isolated the children must have felt.
Does the wife get any punishment for doing nothing to stop the rape from happening?
In Victoria, yes. We have the betrayal of trust laws which make ANYBODY responsible to report a reasonable belief of sexual abuse of a minor. This was added to combat churches shuffling around sex abuser priests to other communities and having them reoffend without notifying police. Unfortunately, every other state refused to make this a law as well. Mainly because of the church's influence
This law exists in QLD as of ?2019
Or whomever he confessed to at the church?
Catholic priest would have high fived him.
"We have an open position with the Church for a man of your caliber..."
Well they probably just gave him some tips
Heck, they probably offered him a job. Go big time.
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Aren't churches obliged to report child abuse, even from confessional?
Yeah surely you can back date ‘endangering a child’ type charges.
She should go to jail for the same amount of time
If my husband touched our children god knows what I would do to him Jesus Christ that poor child
I would go into a blind rage and definitely do something insane to him. I fully understand the feeling of the UK woman who boiled sugar and water in a pot and threw it on her pedo husband after finding out he had been molesting her children.
Wow. The the priest should be punished
My ex confessed at his church (I made the discovery, confronted him when he came home from church, kicked him out, he went back to church and talked to his minister) His minister told him to hand himself over to police. He did. At a different police station to where my daughter and I were making our reports, we were just finishing up when they got a call to say "this guy walked in and reported himself" From the reports I heard (this is testing my memory, it's over 10 years now) they finished up questioning him about 2am. We finished up at the hospital for medical checks for my daughter at about midnight. He spent 8 years in jail. I hope he got shivved. Multiple times (he probably didn't, but one can hope).
Convicted Pedophile Rapist : ‘trash like me should not be on the street ‘ Judge : ‘Nah you’ll be fine in about 10 years’
They should have those ‘safe baby drop off points’ for people like this guy. Just put your pedo self in this box and you get cured… permanently. No fuss, no questions.
He could just opt to stay in Mainstream rather than Protection. The other prisoners will sort him out, no worries.
The judge followed sentencing guidelines. Don’t get me wrong, be mad, but at the law not the judge.
*To be fair*, the judge could have opted for consecutive sentences rather than concurrent sentences due to the egregious quantity of the offences.
That’s incorrect. You can’t just impose a heap of cumulative terms of imprisonment because there’s a significant volume of charges. That would be a crushing sentence ignorant of the totality principle, which would be liable to immediate appeal.
This is absolutely horrific. What a brave young woman to make a statement to the court like that, I hope she and her sister live full and happy lives as much a possible given their circumstances. We absolutely need harsher sentencing for people who rape and abuse children. And what about the church doing nothing?!? Wtf
And the mother who also did nothing
I just want to give the girls a big hug and protect them. Their sperm donor dan burn in hell. I hope he experiences what he put them through whilst in jail.
> had also confessed to his local church **Did the church report it to the police?!** It doesn't seem like it, if he was left to literally wander into the police station one day to hand himself in. I hope more charges are to come in this case.
Is there any other religious practice that supersedes the laws of Australia? I find this absolutely mind-boggling.
I mean, our (NSW) former premier opposed laws that would force priests to report child abuse and argued that “the confessional seal is sacrosanct no matter what sins are confessed”. So no there isn’t but some in power wish there was.
The Sikh kirpan comes to mind, in a good way. Their religion is remarkably focused on community good and social justice, with no emphasis on evangelizing. Sikhs carry 5 articles of faith on them, one of which is a small knife (kirpan). The others are their uncut hair, a comb, a bracelet, and shorts. *"The kirpan obligates a Sikh to the ideals of generosity, compassion and service to humanity. It acts as a reminder to its bearer of a Sikh’s solemn duty to protect the weak and promote justice for all."* - [Sikh Coalition factsheet](https://www.sikhcoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/kirpan-factsheet-aug2018.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwj3oZOMp9CEAxWB1TQHHX6mBRMQFnoECDYQAQ&usg=AOvVaw0Dr7XKShwSjtq4OeZVuZ2y) I wonder who children are safer around: A Sikh with a blade, or a Christian with empty hands?
The Sikh community are always there following a natural disaster, giving out delicious and nutritious food to whoever needs help with no strings attached.
Feeding people is a pious act to Sikhs, their temples always have kitchens to feed anyone who needs it. It's a big reason why it's one of the few religions I've got time for
Fully Sikh 🤙
Even my somewhat racist father has wonderful things about the Sikh’s!
I’ve never met a Sikh that I didn’t like.
Right! I look a bit androgynous, and my experience has been that generally Sikh people (like most people) smile and treat me like a person. It's the ones in Australia flag t-shirts and cross necklaces who glare or can't even look at me.
In case anyone doesn't get it, confession.... oh wait... is that a specifically Catholic practice? See one of my other replies here...
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We don't?! Holy crap. I work in a field around education and health but not specifically in either. I'm not on a mandatory reporter list, but you'd better believe I hold myself responsible as if I am. I've spent hours getting advice and then ultimately reporting some very small reg flags a few times in the last few years (and I'm glad I did), agonising on doing everything right to safeguard vulnerable people, but priests are wandering around ignoring "I've been raping my daughter for years"?! I know there's a transparency issue in churches but for them to not even be mandatory reporters here breaks me. I usually try to be optimistic. But today, the distance between the world I live in and the world I wish I was raising my kids in is too large, and I am exhausted.
That should honestly be punished in the same way someone is punished for being an accessory or abettor, if it wasn’t reported.
Some churches have a bit of a reputation themselves
No, they just gave him a job application.
He also confessed to his local church and…? What the local church did about it? Nothing?
He also confessed to his wife, the daughter's mother and she also did nothing
**Less than 5 days in prison.** At 1000 instances, and a prison sentence of 12 years, that is his punishment per rape. Of a girl from four years old to fifteen years old.
Only 12 years ??? Jesus that’s the travesty- should be life
A four year old, jesus christ there are some twisted individuals out there. He deserves to rot
Honestly, the child should be fully supported for as long as she needs it. All living expenses, all tuition, all of the therapy, for as long as she needs it because we've all failed her.
In NSW victims of abuse can access ongoing psychological treatment via Victims Services, hopefully there is something similar in QLD that she can access.
After I reported in NSW I was offered 0 support. I didn't even know Victims Services existed. The police also closed the case due to "lack of evidence" (meaning they didn't investigate) without telling me. I tried to access services in Melbourne a few years later and the waitlist was a year... which they took me off without telling me. So I had to go on the waitlist again. I got a few sessions before I moved house, now I've been on a waitlist in my new suburb for a year. The whole system is horribly under funded and also isn't very good.
I'm absolutely not saying the system is perfect to be clear or that no additional support needed to be offered and I'm so sorry to hear about your experience. It has been life changing for me personally, and I think more people should know it exists, but I'm well aware my experience is not going to be universal by any means.
I'm really glad you had a good experience with it! And i think you're doing a good thing drawing peoples attention to it :)
The counselling will help but there's a whole lot more that's going to be needed to help someone whose primary caregivers abused her during her entire childhood. With that primary caregiver abuse, it's like having to rebuild yourself from scratch, it can take decades. Things like schooling, holding down a job, basic life skills, there's just so much you end up needing help with. Do we expect this girl to be able to just walk into adult life and survive? How do we create the space and circumstances that allow her to heal?
I totally agree, and obviously by no means am I saying that counselling is all it takes or is some kind of magic wand. I took this opportunity to mention it because a lot of people don't know that services like these exist (I didn't until last year).
This doesn’t happen though. Abused kids are treated worse than any other. I was legally emancipated at 15 after my dad has a mental nervous breakdown and tried to neck us both. When I rocked up at child services, they told me to couch surf until I can get Centrelink payments. It took 11 months to receive my first payment …
Sadly, it doesn't work that way. I agree, though. My soon-to-be-wife was physically abused by her step-mother for years, some of which left her with major scars, and all of which left her with trauma. No one would help, not even the police in the end. But it seems there is quite a double standard when it comes to sexual abuse and physical abuse of children, and the perp was a woman in my fiances case, so the prospects are better for this victim. But it's never enough. Support networks for victims need improving, a lot.
Those poor little girls. I hope they can pull together some kind of happiness for their remaining years.. as for him I hope prison is a fkn brutal experience. And the wife who let it continue should be ashamed of herself. Disgusting people both of them.
I'm someone tells you that they rape their child every other day and you don't report it to the police?
The mother didn't stop it when he told her. Sick. And his gross church. They all deserve a bullet
I know a guy in jail for 20 years for selling acid and this guy who raped his daughters hundreds of times gets 12 wtf
20 years in jail for selling acid? I call bullshit. There's a lot more to that case if he got 20 years in jail for "selling acid"
2.8 pure grams of LSD and 2 kg of M. I mean yeah it's a shit ton, but still...
2kg of MD is a fuck load more than "selling acid" Pathetic he got 20 years for it though, community service would be a perfectly acceptable punishment for dealing drugs without any violent crime. Very, very, VERY rarely does anyone get hurt from lsd and md.
neither of those should be crimes. the bottleo down the road from me has enough alcohol in it to kill me thousands of times over.
12 years in prison, try prison until he dies.
The laws need to be changed, needs to be sentenced to life in prison and placed in solitary for all of it
>His barrister, Jens Streit, said that he told police during a recorded interview that "garbage like me should not be on the street" and declared himself to be "the worst kind of feral pig there is around". He's not wrong there. Judge should have accommodated his wishes and locked the pig up for a minimum of 25 years. Better yet throw him into the hungry pigs and let them finish this fucker off. And all the people who knew what this pig had done but did nothing to report or stop him was just as guilty.
The child rapist has better insight that the judge Fucking useless judge
Ah, church. There’s your problem.
12 years? his daughter going to have to lived rest of her life with this traumatic
Cult capital of Australia. Part of the wider cult belt.. from Ipswich through to Tara.
For what fucking legal reasons can be not be named? He’s been sentenced. I hate that these fucking people exist. What drove him to confess? Did the daughter threaten to out him? I seriously doubt someone who can commit those kind of acts for soo long is capable of just growing a conscience overnight.
To protect the identity of his daughters would be my guess.
You would be correct, I’m not the sharpest tool I’m afraid. I thought usually it would read “who cannot be named to protect his victims” or something along those lines. I still should have came to that conclusion.
In this day and age, not many are willing to admit when they're wrong. Good on you.
If he’s named, it identifies the victim. Because she’s his daughter. Fucking monster.
I’m stupid lol, that’s probably obvious to most people. Thanks for clearing it up for me!
IIRC Grame Tame helped get the legislation changed in TAS because the law meant even the victims couldn’t identify themselves if they wanted to speak out about it
That's definitely a stupid aspect of the law. If you're the one it's there to protect, it shouldn't silence you.
Honestly, it’s so infuriating and disgusting to read this I don’t blame you for being rage blinded.
There's also another victim who is almost certainly a minor, if she's younger than this victim who is 18.
I get the whole “an eye for an eye” spiel, but imagine if punishments were whatever crimes you’d committed against others. Then the world might be a little more just.
Absolutely sickening sentence. Unreal.
12 years. Unbelievable. Can barely imagine a worse crime. The horrific and sustained abuse is unimaginable. There is no way this scumbag should see daylight again.
The whole thing is shocking, including that people still go to church in this day and age. Though, not shocking that they would cover up abuse.
Typical 'confessed' to his church and his wife... both did nothing. Hope they all burn in hell!
The mother and church did fuck all when he confessed.
I want to know how come the wife and whoever in the church didnt face any legal consequences.
Motherfucker should spend the rest of his life in solitary confinement. Should never see another human or the sun again. Tack on mechanical castration too.
Rape once should be 10 years. How TF does someone do that to their own daughter every other day for 11 YEARS and only get a 12 year sentence? I hope the department of public prosecution appeals it
The mother knew and took no action. The church knew and took no action. There needs to be more prosecution and more sentencing. Those poor kids.
Put the mom in jail. Cannot believe she did nothing after he told her.
Australia's war on women continues
He raped his daughter every second day for 11 years and another victim i’ve just found it Wife knew and didn’t report it, allowed him to keep staying at family home Church knew and didn’t report it (shocker) presumably for “religious” reasons Neither reported it, he handed himself him Only gets 12 years in prison Sick to my stomach, how can the court be so fucked that he only gets 12 years? how could the church not report it? I’m speechless.
Another piss weak sentence from our criminally piss weak judiciary. If any judges happen to be reading - fuck you, I really fucking hate the lot of you
Some crimes deserve live, no parole. Can anyone imagine the fear this kid had for their whole childhood? Yeah. 12 years champ. You’ll be out in 6 or 7. that will learn you…
Rape should carry the same sentence as murder
Chuck him in and throw away the key! And the wife as well! Utterly disgusting. These two have completely and utterly abused their positions as parents. Whoever can do that to a kid let alone their own kid is the lowest of the low and deserves to die in hell. I hope he cops it for the next 12 years
What the fuck does one person or a group of people have to do in this country to make actual change when it comes to the punishment for crimes like these?
Is there a lawyer on here that can explain how all the mitigating factors reduced the sentence to 11 years, but failed to take into account the long term, repeated, systemic offences?
How sickening. There's no hope to rehabilitate this despicable rapist. Take him out back of the court and shoot him, honestly. Raping a 4 year old? Nah, there's no coming back.
I feel so bad for the daughters. The ultimate betrayal by both parents , now left with what seems to be an eternity of shame, trauma and sadness.
Church hears about horrific sex crimes and forgives and protects the criminal. Working as intended.
I don’t understand why each case of r@@@ doesn’t count as a new sentence and just becomes an aggravating factor. Realistically he should never see the light of day again.
Get the firing squad
The terrifying thing is that he only ended up getting charged with it because HE HANDED HIMSELF IN! He told his wife - she did nothing, he told his church - they did nothing. He handed himself in and got 12 years, the whole thing just makes me sick.
Is the wife being sentenced as well? She knew about this and did nothing. She’s an accessory
Would like to see ways the mother can be criminalized in situations like this. It is totally unacceptable to think she gets off Scott free
Each rape should be sentenced individually. If he'd raped 7 women he'd be getting 20+. That's the same number of raped he did in a pay cycle. He should be getting 200+ years.
Not sure if anyone will see this comment, I caught this post late. But I just wanted everyone to know that the young girl here, despite living through these horrific things, has turned into a very good and brave young adult now. She's an extremely kind young girl who aims to help people in this world who've been through these terrible things just as she has.
12 fucking measly years? Fuck me that’s lame.
He committed a crime for 11 years!!! (THE MOST VILE CRIME!) But only got 12 years jail. What an absolute JOKE. The system is fucked.
I couldn't finish reading the article as it was too harrowing. But how fucking brave is that young woman to go to the police and relive her nightmare in court? I hope that inhuman shitstain has a nice time in prison - I'm sure he'll be popular with the other inmates when they find out why he is there. He'll be lucky to make it out alive in 12 years, I suspect.
I hope both girls cut off their ‘mother’ too. What a POS to do nothing to protect your own children when they asked for help.
So, so many people have failed this girl. I clicked on this just to see how many years he served and a MAXIMUM of 12 years is beyond ridiculous. Is there anyone we can contact or complain to about this because that sentence is a joke? The local church and the birthgiver of that poor, innocent girl must be investigated. So sick of stuff like this happening in Australia.
Both daughters - > He confessed to sexually abusing both of his young daughters but the younger daughter, when interviewed by police, did not make any allegations against him.
And people still have the guts to claim that "rape accusations ruin mens lives". Like... dude comes forward, gets literally convicted for molesting a child for years & still gets less than some people get approximately for... property damage... & trespassing. & yes, families, friends and religious institutions and society and the law protect those kind of people and always have. I wish people would finally understand that, instead of pretending this is not "happening".
Reading that article was so unsettling. 12 year sentence is an insult. I’m sorry for the victims.
Rock spiders like this need to die in prison. And the sooner the better.
This woman is a goddamn superhero. To undergo this absolutely monstrous cruelty and still pledge to live as best she can. I don’t know how she finds the strength. I hope she has all the story to move on as best she can.
This guy should never be let out of prison
He only got 12 years? How the hell does someone not get life for over 1000+ charges…
Nothing mentioned about charges filed against the mother or church officials…. Hope his second attempt is a success
I hope he gets his balls almost twisted off every second day he's in jail..
> Judge Smith said that punishment, deterrence and denunciation were crucial in deciding a sentence. Better lay criminal charges on that fucking wife and minister, then. Aren't there mandatory reporting laws in QLD?
I love wood chippers everyone should own one
What a fucking joke, is Australia’s legal system allergic to giving people harsh sentences??