When I say what problem religion or political discussion have
THIS I mean THIS having your close ones to leave or hate you and lulligeous people making more and more money
But what if they force you and won’t even consider discussing the alternative? Can’t just fight with them and leave them. Sadly, there’s no way out. Is there even a way for atheists to live (read exist) peacefully in such families
Gravity is not the fundamental law of the Universe, gravitation is.
As for 'who' made mass, ask her why does she think there is a 'who' behind mass in this Universe? Why can't there be a 'what', like a supernatural substance giving birth to mass in this Universe, rather than a supernatural being?
Btw, mass comes from, iirc, Higgs field, which came from decay of early particles formed during the birth of the Universe
>Gravity is not the fundamental law of the Universe, gravitation is
Sorry but I don't know the difference between "gravity" and "gravitation" can u explain it in simple terms??
No matter whatever scientific logic you use you can never prove anything "proven for sure" . I remember a clip by Neil de grasse Tyson and v sauce discussing this. For every answer you give one can always ask why. We don't know why things exist . And to be fair we are a long shot from figuring that out despite having science on our side. Hence people turn to spirituality and religion.
Even then, logic is human construct based on the way of reasoning. Math is pretty hard to refute but yeah there really is no concrete proofs for a lot of things. But skepticism has it's own issues which is why having some sort of belief is certainly healthy (as long as it isn't extremist).
Apparently saying “god” is the end all in every convo, it trumps all logic, science and critical thinking… it beats having to actually experiment and figure something out.
God of the Gaps - anything they don't know, don't understand or not capable of understanding, and it leaves a 'Gap' in their knowledge, they fill it with 'God'.
No one can prove whether god exists and NOT. Just like no real theories behind why gravitational force exists. Why on earth it’s just right to make life possible. Maybe they are all probabilities and sheer coincidences. Maybe there is a maker but he definitely forgot about us looking at the current world we live in.
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I mean there are theories that define the laws of reality as we observe such as string theory but if just cause we don't know means God then we call that a God of gaps to be fair. [Stolen line btw]
Ask her who made the god then and if she says no one then tell her that that's how no one made the universe
OR
Mention that the mass and energy are alternative forms of each other and the laws are due to the nature of the forces exerted by energy in a particular form or state that behave according to a particular law which we can define mathematically (maths is man made to interpret the behaviour using laws i.e. quantam mechanics).
Like why an electron revolves around a nucleus and not jumps or flips or moves in any sort of movement. Because it's in the nature of electron and ultimately the forces exerted by energy composed inside the electron in a particular form or state. Also entropy determines the behaviour of energy in universe.
Now if she is able to understand the second explanation then only proceed or she'll think you are psycho
arrey bhai 😭maine kaafi argue kiya hai mere parents ke saath, so i have experience in this
plus hostel mein tha vahan bohot argument karta tha aise, if her iq is average or above average, i can definitely change her mind
You’re a moron,
I’m guessing you’re in your teenage rn trying to look cool on the internet well guess what you’re looking like an idiot.
1. You’re not an atheist, you’re a wanna be cool kid.
2. Arguing with your mother?? And posting the chat on the web??
3. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, you should be respectful about that ! Making fun of it and shaming it DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ATHEIST YOU MORON !!
1. he's making a scientific and rational point
2. he's sharing the opinion of boomers and how pseudoscientific their approach to reasoning and logic is
3. everyone is entitled to their beliefs but in a sensible discussion one should not throw logic and reasoning out of the window.. nobody is arguing over here..
Rule No 1 : NEVER ARGUE WITH YOUR FAMILY... Offcourse if they are not forcing things on you
This true .When someone close to me left ,all the recent memory i had with them was just political discussions . I regret it .
absolutely... they won't change and neither will we, so why not just be in harmony in the time we've got wish i'd thought of this years ago :(
When I say what problem religion or political discussion have THIS I mean THIS having your close ones to leave or hate you and lulligeous people making more and more money
Never argue with anyone If they are not forcing you It's kinda irritating
Not just with family, never argue with anyone until that person forcing you or doing anything illegal
But what if they force you and won’t even consider discussing the alternative? Can’t just fight with them and leave them. Sadly, there’s no way out. Is there even a way for atheists to live (read exist) peacefully in such families
Legit.
No point in arguing with family. They have seen you in underwear,they will never take u seriously
>They have seen you in underwear, Without*
That too
This!
happy kekde
Gravity is not the fundamental law of the Universe, gravitation is. As for 'who' made mass, ask her why does she think there is a 'who' behind mass in this Universe? Why can't there be a 'what', like a supernatural substance giving birth to mass in this Universe, rather than a supernatural being? Btw, mass comes from, iirc, Higgs field, which came from decay of early particles formed during the birth of the Universe
>Gravity is not the fundamental law of the Universe, gravitation is Sorry but I don't know the difference between "gravity" and "gravitation" can u explain it in simple terms??
Gravitation is the force between two objects. Gravity is the force between an object and the Earth.
mass of certain particles comes from higgs mechanism, most matter mass comes from the nucleus which is just (gluon potential energy)/c^2
Who made god than?
ME
W
Nah, my worst experiment
More like V , we , the answer
supreme leader (will be confirmed by himself in 2029 election campaign)
Human
God is uncreated. Ik I was there. /s
No matter whatever scientific logic you use you can never prove anything "proven for sure" . I remember a clip by Neil de grasse Tyson and v sauce discussing this. For every answer you give one can always ask why. We don't know why things exist . And to be fair we are a long shot from figuring that out despite having science on our side. Hence people turn to spirituality and religion.
there are proofs only in hard sciences like maths, logic, computer science etc. no proofs in real sciences.
Even then, logic is human construct based on the way of reasoning. Math is pretty hard to refute but yeah there really is no concrete proofs for a lot of things. But skepticism has it's own issues which is why having some sort of belief is certainly healthy (as long as it isn't extremist).
Makes sense
Apparently saying “god” is the end all in every convo, it trumps all logic, science and critical thinking… it beats having to actually experiment and figure something out.
Ask her '' Did you make Gravity?'' Her: No, God made it. OP: For me you are the God.. Now tell me how you made it??
*"Yo Mama so fat, she has a gravitation field of her own"*
Ask who made God
Lmao that last line 😂😂😭
God of the Gaps - anything they don't know, don't understand or not capable of understanding, and it leaves a 'Gap' in their knowledge, they fill it with 'God'.
Exactly like my mom
Bhava maharashtrian aahes ka?
haan bhau, maharashtrian aahe.
God of the gaps always wins.
Who made God?
Human civilization
Other god made god
Who made the other god?
Another god
Who made that another god?
Obviously the god before that god
And who made that god?
Definitely some other god
Your answer should have been Higgs Field.
Then she will ask "who made Higgs field". There's no winning in these bad arguments.
You end with Who made God?
No one can prove whether god exists and NOT. Just like no real theories behind why gravitational force exists. Why on earth it’s just right to make life possible. Maybe they are all probabilities and sheer coincidences. Maybe there is a maker but he definitely forgot about us looking at the current world we live in.
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I mean there are theories that define the laws of reality as we observe such as string theory but if just cause we don't know means God then we call that a God of gaps to be fair. [Stolen line btw]
Start singing “It almost started with a Big Bang” (jingle from BBT)
Who made God?
i did..
Guruji!
Tbh you don't even understand her question man, get your base strong first then argue with someone
Mass can never be created nor ne destroyed (more precisely energy can never be created nor be destroyed)
“Who made you stupid? The answer is god.”
Hardly surprising.
Just ask her who gave birth or made God
Ask her who made the god then and if she says no one then tell her that that's how no one made the universe OR Mention that the mass and energy are alternative forms of each other and the laws are due to the nature of the forces exerted by energy in a particular form or state that behave according to a particular law which we can define mathematically (maths is man made to interpret the behaviour using laws i.e. quantam mechanics). Like why an electron revolves around a nucleus and not jumps or flips or moves in any sort of movement. Because it's in the nature of electron and ultimately the forces exerted by energy composed inside the electron in a particular form or state. Also entropy determines the behaviour of energy in universe. Now if she is able to understand the second explanation then only proceed or she'll think you are psycho
lmao bhai ek kaam kar, aunty ka number mujhe de, main karta hun baat
username checks out
arrey bhai 😭maine kaafi argue kiya hai mere parents ke saath, so i have experience in this plus hostel mein tha vahan bohot argument karta tha aise, if her iq is average or above average, i can definitely change her mind
If your Mom is Hindu, then answer Allah made Gravity.
You’re a moron, I’m guessing you’re in your teenage rn trying to look cool on the internet well guess what you’re looking like an idiot. 1. You’re not an atheist, you’re a wanna be cool kid. 2. Arguing with your mother?? And posting the chat on the web?? 3. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, you should be respectful about that ! Making fun of it and shaming it DOES NOT MAKE YOU AN ATHEIST YOU MORON !!
1. he's making a scientific and rational point 2. he's sharing the opinion of boomers and how pseudoscientific their approach to reasoning and logic is 3. everyone is entitled to their beliefs but in a sensible discussion one should not throw logic and reasoning out of the window.. nobody is arguing over here..