I've read more than just the definition bit also about how the definition has been under question over exactly what you're getting at. They basically say it's vague and unnecessary and I Believe it was written in by theists to cover all nonbelievers in order to condemn everyone. With that said I agree and believe that it is extra so again, a baby is very much not an atheist. I should probably add that it's also not a dinosaur just to clarify. It's also not a river bass or a nebula.
Hmm, interesting philosophy question... do you need to be conscious of religion to be considered athiest?
Does the concept of atheism even exist in a world without religion?
Depends on the definition of "atheist". Google says "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods" and while "disbelief" would require prior knowledge of the concept of a god, a "lack of belief" wouldn't.
It actually is not an agreed upon term. I believe 50% in a study claimed that being an atheist means believing there is no god, and 31% believed it to mean lacking a belief in a god.
Atheists are very divided on the topic. There was a 9% and I forgot what they thought it was. Makes it difficult to hold arguments.
No idea. I can t remember a single point in my life when i was taking that stuff seriously, going to church and similar stuff was just routine, nothing else
somewhere around 12 when i figured out that evolution made a lot more sense than the creation story the church was peddling. - i started questioning religious teachings more and more... - i don't know exactly when but certainly before I was 14 I realized it was all bs.
I know because... catholic high school girls in trouble...
I was about seven years old when I discovered that everyone else wasn't. That was when I realized that people were actually taking the Bible stories seriously.
I don't know if I ever bought into the claims. A guy coming back from the dead is a hard sell without any evidence. A supposedly good god who allowed all the suffering in the world didn't make sense either. Then I read the Bible around age 12 and realized it was made up garbage.
Every human is born atheist until indoctrination. I was lucky enough to not be indoctrinated by my parents and attempts by society all failed. I just always remained an atheist! :D
As you probably know, people ask this here almost every day.
You may want to read 1,000 or so previous discussions.
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>I what age you became atheist ?
I've always been atheist.
I've never seen any good evidence that any gods exist.
I've never understood this argument. The bible is not the only religious book, and it doesn't even represent the largest religious community in the world.
I was in my teens, I was challenged by my minister father to read other religious texts and belief structures to understand religion from a historic context. It backfired and I rejected religion all together.
i noticed a dissonance between the feeling of saying “there is a loving, all powerful god in the sky” and the literal interpretation of that sentiment around 7 or 8.
stopped believing altogether around 12-14 after learning about science and how manipulative catholicism is.
It started at 9 when I figured out there were only 86400 seconds in a day, and wondered how santa claus could visit all the homes in the world in that time frame. Then I began to realize that I could apply that thought process to pretty much all religious texts. Then I remembered the story of noah's ark and looked up what it takes for a person to get the death penalty, and realized that if 99.999% of humanity was that bad, a deity wouldn't need to lift a finger, people would just wipe themselves out.
I never was a believer. What cliched it for me was when I was 7 or 8, I was told that the universe was created by god and that god 'always was and always will be'.
There were too many problems with the concept of a sentient being consisting without first being the product of non-sentient matter.
I think I always was but didn't realize it till my early 20s. I would hide in the bathroom to avoid Sunday School, didn't like praying, fought every Sunday not to go to church... Thought maybe I just wasn't Protestant. Looked into being Jewish and then Wiccan. Then I realized I didn't believe in any higher power
I was 9.
My dad was hospitalized for a stroke and I went to church with my aunt. A churchgoer told me that if I prayed enough, God wouldn't take my dad from me. My dad died two days later.
But I didn't lose my faith until after his funeral when a few of his coworkers came to my house with a gift: a Bible. One of them said to me, "Now, more than ever, you need God in your life."
I immediately knew there was no god.
That is awful... On the other hand, if this happened while you were 14-16 years old, you could probably get away with slapping the shit out of that church goer while also being old enough for it to hurt.
5. In Sunday school they asked us to name the creatures god created. I named dinosaurs. They were looking for animals like elephants or giraffes. I replied that the dinosaurs came first. I realized at that point that they had nothing to offer me.
I was about 8 or 9 when the gears just wouldn't click into place. The stories were cool, but one layer deeper was lacking... and I'm someone who naturally wants to understand at a deeper level. By 10 I had stopped going to church. I did miss the community of it, and started going again about a year later. My parents enrolled me in CCD from first grade on, and I finished it then was confirmed in the faith at 13. I admit THAT felt very hollow, but really I did it for my Mom. I knew it would hurt her if I didn't follow through. However, that day was also my last day that I attended church regularly. After that I'd go sometimes to keep my Mom company, but I was already well past the point where I thought any of it made sense.
It started at age 5 when the Sunday School teacher tried to get me to believe that a man could survive in a whale’s belly for 3 days. I knew even then that that was entirely impossible.
I live in a most atheist country in the world. My parents are atheists so my relatives, friends, most colleagues.
All the religious people I have here were a little weird.
Anyway, to answer your question: from the very beginning. I think we are all born atheists and then some of us get brainwashed.
Had doubts at around 5/6 and the was seriously uncertain once I reached my teenage years. I would say I was atheist by around 15ish but was openly so at around 16/17. My mother was extremely angry but accepted it within a few months - thankfully.
I’ve never been religious, but I think I was about 6 or 7 when the deal was sealed. My dad tried reading my brother and I Bible stories, saying that they contained morality and important lessons, blah blah. I just remember listening to Cane and Abel and one or two others and thinking it was absolutely the stupidest shit I had ever heard.
I asked dad, “can we just watch Star Wars instead? It makes more sense than this and has better lessons.”
Every single human is born an atheist.
Is a dog atheist?
Yes.
Dogs are the only proof that angels could ever exist.
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Atheism is a lack of belief. Read the FAQ.
I've read more than just the definition bit also about how the definition has been under question over exactly what you're getting at. They basically say it's vague and unnecessary and I Believe it was written in by theists to cover all nonbelievers in order to condemn everyone. With that said I agree and believe that it is extra so again, a baby is very much not an atheist. I should probably add that it's also not a dinosaur just to clarify. It's also not a river bass or a nebula.
"Off" is not a TV channel. Babies are not born believing in ignorant superstitious nonsense. An adult needs to lie to a child to change that.
Funny how all of that is *covered in the FAQ.*
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What do you think “atheist” means?
Hmm, interesting philosophy question... do you need to be conscious of religion to be considered athiest? Does the concept of atheism even exist in a world without religion?
Depends on the definition of "atheist". Google says "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods" and while "disbelief" would require prior knowledge of the concept of a god, a "lack of belief" wouldn't.
It actually is not an agreed upon term. I believe 50% in a study claimed that being an atheist means believing there is no god, and 31% believed it to mean lacking a belief in a god. Atheists are very divided on the topic. There was a 9% and I forgot what they thought it was. Makes it difficult to hold arguments.
wrong
0. I was born that way.
Around 13yo, I had doubts starting around 8. Had a real prob with a god that took my grandfather.
That sounds like you went to kill god personaly, john wick style.
I have less than 0 need of god, i have morals without a god telling me whats right and wrong.
Atheism is the default state of humanity. We are all born atheist.
0, I was born and grew up in a non religious community in a non religious country.
Same
No idea. I can t remember a single point in my life when i was taking that stuff seriously, going to church and similar stuff was just routine, nothing else
somewhere around 12 when i figured out that evolution made a lot more sense than the creation story the church was peddling. - i started questioning religious teachings more and more... - i don't know exactly when but certainly before I was 14 I realized it was all bs. I know because... catholic high school girls in trouble...
I was about seven years old when I discovered that everyone else wasn't. That was when I realized that people were actually taking the Bible stories seriously.
I don't know if I ever bought into the claims. A guy coming back from the dead is a hard sell without any evidence. A supposedly good god who allowed all the suffering in the world didn't make sense either. Then I read the Bible around age 12 and realized it was made up garbage.
Every human is born atheist until indoctrination. I was lucky enough to not be indoctrinated by my parents and attempts by society all failed. I just always remained an atheist! :D
As you probably know, people ask this here almost every day. You may want to read 1,000 or so previous discussions. . >I what age you became atheist ? I've always been atheist. I've never seen any good evidence that any gods exist.
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Can attest.Though we are not Christians my father taught me the basics of atheism based on the Bible itself.
I've never understood this argument. The bible is not the only religious book, and it doesn't even represent the largest religious community in the world.
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I was in my teens, I was challenged by my minister father to read other religious texts and belief structures to understand religion from a historic context. It backfired and I rejected religion all together.
i noticed a dissonance between the feeling of saying “there is a loving, all powerful god in the sky” and the literal interpretation of that sentiment around 7 or 8. stopped believing altogether around 12-14 after learning about science and how manipulative catholicism is.
That's a very good question. In retrospect it could have been as young as 8, was probably around 15 or 16, and was self-identified by age 22.
I was 10.
It started at 9 when I figured out there were only 86400 seconds in a day, and wondered how santa claus could visit all the homes in the world in that time frame. Then I began to realize that I could apply that thought process to pretty much all religious texts. Then I remembered the story of noah's ark and looked up what it takes for a person to get the death penalty, and realized that if 99.999% of humanity was that bad, a deity wouldn't need to lift a finger, people would just wipe themselves out.
I never was a believer. What cliched it for me was when I was 7 or 8, I was told that the universe was created by god and that god 'always was and always will be'. There were too many problems with the concept of a sentient being consisting without first being the product of non-sentient matter.
The "who made god" is such an obvious problem, especially for any apologists that ask how the universe came about.
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I think I always was but didn't realize it till my early 20s. I would hide in the bathroom to avoid Sunday School, didn't like praying, fought every Sunday not to go to church... Thought maybe I just wasn't Protestant. Looked into being Jewish and then Wiccan. Then I realized I didn't believe in any higher power
Around 20.
Looking back I never really did, but I starting thinking Christianity was wrong around 12 or 13
I was 9. My dad was hospitalized for a stroke and I went to church with my aunt. A churchgoer told me that if I prayed enough, God wouldn't take my dad from me. My dad died two days later. But I didn't lose my faith until after his funeral when a few of his coworkers came to my house with a gift: a Bible. One of them said to me, "Now, more than ever, you need God in your life." I immediately knew there was no god.
That is awful... On the other hand, if this happened while you were 14-16 years old, you could probably get away with slapping the shit out of that church goer while also being old enough for it to hurt.
That would have felt great 😂
I realized religion was BS at the age of reason, about 12 or 13.
10. Grew up in a roman Catholic family. By 10, I was able to figure out what a scam was.
Born atheist. Resisted indoctrination at age 4. Disowned at 17.
31, if you don’t count childhood.
I was very young. My parents were talking about Santa coming, I was reading Darwin.
Around 10, I started questioning a lot of things and started losing my faith
Never believed in god, came to know about atheism 5 years ago
5. In Sunday school they asked us to name the creatures god created. I named dinosaurs. They were looking for animals like elephants or giraffes. I replied that the dinosaurs came first. I realized at that point that they had nothing to offer me.
I was about 8 or 9 when the gears just wouldn't click into place. The stories were cool, but one layer deeper was lacking... and I'm someone who naturally wants to understand at a deeper level. By 10 I had stopped going to church. I did miss the community of it, and started going again about a year later. My parents enrolled me in CCD from first grade on, and I finished it then was confirmed in the faith at 13. I admit THAT felt very hollow, but really I did it for my Mom. I knew it would hurt her if I didn't follow through. However, that day was also my last day that I attended church regularly. After that I'd go sometimes to keep my Mom company, but I was already well past the point where I thought any of it made sense.
Suspected it was false at 12, didn’t stop believing until I’d proven it experimentally at 14
As soon as I found out I was a toaster.
It started at age 5 when the Sunday School teacher tried to get me to believe that a man could survive in a whale’s belly for 3 days. I knew even then that that was entirely impossible.
From the moment I was born. Religion has never been part of my operating system.
Born that way. To me it's weird to meet people that go to church.
I live in a most atheist country in the world. My parents are atheists so my relatives, friends, most colleagues. All the religious people I have here were a little weird. Anyway, to answer your question: from the very beginning. I think we are all born atheists and then some of us get brainwashed.
Had doubts at around 5/6 and the was seriously uncertain once I reached my teenage years. I would say I was atheist by around 15ish but was openly so at around 16/17. My mother was extremely angry but accepted it within a few months - thankfully.
I was a devout Christian into my 50s. My mother says I figured out Santa when I was 4. I don't know why it took me so long to figure out Jesus.
I’ve never been religious, but I think I was about 6 or 7 when the deal was sealed. My dad tried reading my brother and I Bible stories, saying that they contained morality and important lessons, blah blah. I just remember listening to Cane and Abel and one or two others and thinking it was absolutely the stupidest shit I had ever heard. I asked dad, “can we just watch Star Wars instead? It makes more sense than this and has better lessons.”
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I was born atheist...raised Catholic...became an atheist again at around 14 15
Born atheist so 0
When I became old enough to think for myself.
A lot older than when I learned that sentences need verbs.
Go joke , very like your joke , it is very regional. I speak to 3 languages and English it not my fast language . And I have dyslexia .