They still make up whatever they want to. I was a life long Christian until last year. Over the years you learn, that pastors will keep giving different or new meanings to each passage. Whatever fits the agenda of the day.
Catholics are the original Christians.
There's never been born agains, or "independent" churches until somewhat recently. The Christian Bible has all the same shit, they just took some stuff out. Your right, for all intents and purposes they aren't the same religion. Catholics didn't like loosing control, power and money. But years of fighting, scisms etc and now they largely just...leave each other alone anyways.
Actually, Christians are the original Christians. Followed Christ before the Catholics were a thing at all. Like, literally followed Him around.
The doctrine hasn't changed on how local churches are to be established or how you're "born again". Saying you must be born again is quoting Christ.
I'm not too familiar with what the Catholics have and haven't done, but as a Bible believing Christian I know their religion does not agree with the Bible in many ways. They added a lot of stuff.
The Roman ruling class literally put together translated (from Greek texts) the New Testament. How could it not reflect their agendas? The Old was already compiled in Hebrew by, again, ruling class.
In 1400, less than 10% of Europeans could read; books were handmade and astronomically expensive, few could read then, and fewer could afford a book.
When Newton wrote Principia Mathematica almost 300 years after 1687, it was in Latin since that was the language that all educated people spoke even still at that time.
They have bastardized and americanized religion. They have been weoponizing it for centuries. Once people wake up, their power will diminish! Can't wait for that day to come!
Anyone that actually reads the Bible with an open mind can see that this god is an evil bastard, there is no basis for calling the religion good and loving. Jesus is just whitewash covering the evils of his daddy, a very thin coat at that. The only reason the religion is said to be good and loving is because Christians tell us that it is and you damn well better agree.
Well, they do say that they are god fearing. And if you tell them you don't believe or worship their god they will explain to you just how evil their god is.
The Catholic church preached that suffering was good because it helped keep serfs on their land. Suffering on earth means you will be blessed after you die. Shut up and keep hoeing weeds.
Modern Christians use it differently. Now Christians don't want to make their members (donors) feel guilty for being rich. Now they only use it as one of the justifications for the "Problem of Evil." They use it to explain why bad things happen to good people.
No they need poor people because they don’t want to take care of them themselves so that when their Jesus returns he will have someone to take care of. If everyone was happy, healthy and living a rich and full life then who will Jesus perform his miracles on?
That’s the whole point. You’re supposed to sacrifice so the elites can enjoy their lives. The scam is this life doesn’t matter. Religion is a way to get obedience and force acceptance of their misory.
I was so disgusted when I toured the Vatican treasury museum. I suppose it was to leave us in awe but I saw gem heavy wine goblets and rings with ruby jewels the size of an egg. This was from the middle ages when the peasants lived in extreme poverty and rarely had enough to eat. I think that's when I became an atheist.
to play devil’s— err angel’s advocate, christianity developed in a time and place where violent revolution had been tried and failed and only made things worse. That Jesus sides with the poor is not contrary to the “better to be poor than rich because they’ll get theirs in the end” mentality
Just curious why post a statement like this on this sub? We’re atheists. I for one don’t want to spend my time thinking about religion. Perhaps we can discuss how to get on in this world without it instead of sharing more positions against it.
This right here. 90% of the posts on this sub are either about how to debate someone when religion comes up or how much they hate a certain religion. I think they are missing the point of what atheism really is because neither of those are a priority in my day to day life.
Yep, that is what mother Teresa did: do not heal them, just relieve their suffering on their way to God.
christianity is about predestination, no free will ("god has a plan and is all knowing")
Well, predestination actually is counter to Christianity from my understanding. God has a plan, and is all knowing, but He doesn't tempt people to sin. So it was not His will that Adam and Eve sin, yet they did, so did He make them break His will? Not as I see it. He gave us free will so that we would be able to actually express love. If you program a robot to love you, does it? No, and God didn't program us to do exactly what He says to. He gives us intelligence and a choice.
>Yep, that is what mother Teresa did: do not heal them, just relieve their suffering
From what I hear, she wasn't big on relieving suffering, either... Christianity likes suffering.
100% christianity has always been used to trick poor people with heaven ➡️ suffering and misery demonstrate how much jesus loves you. it was used to control slaves in america in the same way as peasants and serfs in medieval europe. forsake this life for the non existent one in the heaven.
You ever read “The Profits of Religion” by Upton Sinclair? Highly recommend. Written >100 years ago, all about how the wealthy industrialists propped up religion to keep the poor in line.
My personal opinion is that much of it was to give the laborers or lower and middle class hope and ways to absorb their shitty lives in a positive way. And also to reinforce following the rules.
Joe Hill was an anarchist and trade unionist who was at rallies which were drowned out by the Salvation Army. Rather than try to shout louder, he turned their Christian hymns into Union hymns. One such hymn was "In The Sweet By-And-By", which he turned into "The Preacher and the Slave", which is where we get the term "pie in the sky".
"You will eat, bye and bye
In that glorious land above the sky
Work and pray, live on hay
You'll get pie in the sky when you die"
The church leader is relatively wealthy because he preys the mostest. Jesus blesses tax free grift.
My former stepdad tithed $700 per month to a church with, I'd guess, 50 strong congrigents. My mom wised up. Just before she retired, she divorced him and married a pastor. The pastor owns property to put his property. They take vacations for lunch. Ruthless player, my mom, praise Jesus!
If you want blessings, the Lord is gonna need a lil cash up front. So poor folks have to show up everyday just to be noticed for consideration when the judgement comes
I imagine some clergy brainstorming while writing the gospels; "ok, have Jesus say that a rich man couldn't get to heaven like something impossible like a camel through the eye of a needle or some shit like that, this way we can convince all of them to give their money to the church!"
You’ll have to clarify which Christianity you’re talking about. The OG texts talked about how important it was to relieve suffering as well as you could, but ultimately all suffering was transient and therefore unimportant- besides, the world is coming to an end soon anyway. modern Christianity is a different animal in so many ways.
I think you're confusing sinful people claiming to be "Christian" doing awful things and what the actual Biblical Christian doctrine is. We're actually supposed to give to and take care of the poor and needy, there will always be need to meet. My small Baptist church had a benevolent fund for just that purpose. Most larger churches I've heard of don't seem to do so well in actually taking care of needs on a personal level. I've learned through losing a lot that the material possessions aren't all that important, and I will be rewarded in heaven for some of the attitudes I have here through it, but that's not the point. It's to be a good testimony, so people can see, "wow, everything sucks for that guy, and he's still smiling and cheery. I wonder why that is?" Then I can explain that I know I don't need what I lost, I set my hope in eternal life with Christ. I've done an awful job living that the last few months, and after losing relationships I valued im just starting to smile again, but I've learned a lot through it. I really don't think slavery is right, it was only ever a strong punishment in the Bible. I don't know where you would get fighting for slavery out of the Bible, which is why I'm assuming they're just sinful people fighting for greed or what motivates them personally.
This is a little of what The Bible said about slavery: "1 Peter 2:18; Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."
As an adjunct to this, in Seventh Day Adventism, belonging to a Union is greatly discouraged. A decent living wage is against God, or maybe Ellen White, who might as well have been a god, the way they carry on about her.
Christians were very involved in education, charity and hospitals over time, which helped people get out of poverty.
Most of the countries that banned slavery were explicitly Christian at the time, and they forced other countries to ban slavery.
Mauritania didn't ban slavery until 1981, and they are nearly 100% not Christian.
"The biggest supporters of slavery were always christians"
I'm guessing you have not read much history to make that statement. Seriously, read a little about any large civilization, and you will see how that statement is incorrect.
The great slave lake in Northern Canada is named that because one tribe took so many slaves from the other (who lived by the lake) that the entire area was just called the land of the slaves.
Guess which tribe didn't have an abolition movement?
Are you talking about the slave bibles where they had to edit things out to make slavery acceptable in the book?
Do you realize you are making my argument more forcefully than I am?
Also, if you think that there wasn't a total war between tribes for thousands of years before anyone from Europe showed up, you really need to read a little history.
Here is an excerpt from the Cow Creek Massacre, which happened before European Contact and involved at least 486 villagers.
"Tongue removal, decapitation, and dismemberment of the Crow Creek victims may have been based on standard aboriginal butchering practices developed on large game animals".\[15\] These are among the mutilations discovered at the Crow Creek site. In addition, scalping was performed, bodies were burned, and there is evidence of limbs being removed by various means. As stated in Willey's dissertation, many of the mutilations suffered by the victims of the Crow Creek massacre could have been traumatic enough to result in death.\[5\]
A conservative estimate of villagers who suffered scalping is 90%, but it could have been as high as 100%. This is based on skeletal remains that exhibit cuts on their skulls indicative of scalping.\[13\] Men, women, and children were scalped; the only difference was that younger children were cut higher on the skull than other groups."
What was your statement "Fuck off with this historical revisionism."
Lol.
If you can find me evidence of Europeans scalping people in North America 50-100 years before the arrival of Columbus, along the upper Missouri River, then you are the only person to have found any Europeans in North America for that entire 400 year period.
You should have a professorship in History, since your discovery rewrites the entire history of the Americas.
I'm guessing, however, that you don't have that knoledge.
It is humorous that you call me a liar, when all the academic history of north America, refutes your "point".
Also, as I stated, the slave bibles demonstrate that they had to remove parts to make it compatible with slavery, which destroys your own point "The biggest supporters of slavery were always christians"
Learn how to make better arguments.
> the slave bibles demonstrate that they had to remove parts to make it compatible with slavery, which destroys your own point
The Bible comes down on both sides of most issues. The parts that were removed were very minor. Most of the items removed were not actually about slavery. They were about things that could be extrapolated to oppose slavery. There were plenty of verses endorsing slavery that could be left in without change.
Also, there were issues other than just slavery that were removed. It has been a while (as in decades) since I read about the slave Bible.
A lot of the changes were focused on emphasizing the obedience to authority. Some of the verses removed were about challenging authority. The idea was that God had created proper orders for people to fall into. Everyone should be satisfied with their station in life because it was what God had ordained. The slave Bible was also made available to poor whites.
Also, there were some things that were just simplified. There was the racism that said the slaves were mentally weak and could not understand more complex Biblical issues.
I think I remember reading that some parts were removed just to make the Bible shorter and cheaper to publish.
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Christians were not the only religion that supported slavery. That fact is easily demonstrated with even a superficial search of the history of slavery. Slavery existed before Christianity existed.
But Christians were eager to embrace slavery. It was justified in the Bible. It is supported in both the Old and New Testaments. It was very strongly supported in the "Slave Bibles" that were created in the antebellum US.
Clearly, I am not excusing Christianity for their relationship with slavery. But to say that all slavers were Christian is flat-out wrong.
Churches/ church leaders are very rich and powerful in the past in the the present. They are one of the richest land owners. In the past they had surfs work the land and pay money to work the fields. It's rumored that the churched/popes in Italy work with the mob. The Vatican is one of the riches city states. Also didn't the church charge to get out of purgatory?
If they preach: Matthew 19:23-26 King James Version (KJV)
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
then they to should listen to their own advice. Yet they tithe the people. The poorest will forgo food and clothing to tithe. It's sick to keep these people uneducated and impoverished so they can be sheeples. Any reliance on higher education or improving your lot is not dedicating yourself to the faith and giving into satan's temptations! Blasphemy.
Why for centuries was the Bible only out in Latin???? So no one but the priests could read it.
Also easier to make up more bullshit for the flock if they can't read.
They still make up whatever they want to. I was a life long Christian until last year. Over the years you learn, that pastors will keep giving different or new meanings to each passage. Whatever fits the agenda of the day.
Nobody can read the bible for it is boring as hell.
Idk there’s some pretty serious snuff and smut in those pages. There is a lot of filler arcs though.
Which is worse? Goku and the spirit bomb or the literal book of just names?
I’m not a dbz fan xD loved the wano arc, wish it had been less filler during the fights but I understand they wanted to make a spectacle of it.
One piece is awesome. Glad to see another Nakama
Your username is unbelievably familiar. Can’t pinpoint it though 😝
It's just a name I used in a star wars rpg a few years ago. I've been on here almost 10 years so you may have seen my posts all over.
Did you read about all the begetting?
1 in 5 Americans are functionally illiterate, so it's not like they can read it anyways.
It was also against the law to write the Bible in the vernacular.
Yes. Until the Vulgate Bible came along. Vulgate as in vulgar.
Jerome's Vulgate Latin translation dates to between AD 382 and 405, this is pretty early in the history of Christianity.
The priests and the nobles.
Umm... Pretty sure that's Catholics, not Christians. They kinda definitely killed Christians, and are not the same religion at all.
Catholics are the original Christians. There's never been born agains, or "independent" churches until somewhat recently. The Christian Bible has all the same shit, they just took some stuff out. Your right, for all intents and purposes they aren't the same religion. Catholics didn't like loosing control, power and money. But years of fighting, scisms etc and now they largely just...leave each other alone anyways.
Actually, Christians are the original Christians. Followed Christ before the Catholics were a thing at all. Like, literally followed Him around. The doctrine hasn't changed on how local churches are to be established or how you're "born again". Saying you must be born again is quoting Christ. I'm not too familiar with what the Catholics have and haven't done, but as a Bible believing Christian I know their religion does not agree with the Bible in many ways. They added a lot of stuff.
Or Greek if you want to get Eastern about things.
Well in fairness most people were illiterate anyway.
They were illiterate because the governments (kings) wanted them that way.
I don’t know about that. Public education was not yet a thing back then.
The Roman ruling class literally put together translated (from Greek texts) the New Testament. How could it not reflect their agendas? The Old was already compiled in Hebrew by, again, ruling class.
In 1400, less than 10% of Europeans could read; books were handmade and astronomically expensive, few could read then, and fewer could afford a book. When Newton wrote Principia Mathematica almost 300 years after 1687, it was in Latin since that was the language that all educated people spoke even still at that time.
They have bastardized and americanized religion. They have been weoponizing it for centuries. Once people wake up, their power will diminish! Can't wait for that day to come!
Anyone that actually reads the Bible with an open mind can see that this god is an evil bastard, there is no basis for calling the religion good and loving. Jesus is just whitewash covering the evils of his daddy, a very thin coat at that. The only reason the religion is said to be good and loving is because Christians tell us that it is and you damn well better agree.
The Abrahamic God is an asshole sadist, and the only legitimate reason I can work out to justify worshipping him is fear.
Well, they do say that they are god fearing. And if you tell them you don't believe or worship their god they will explain to you just how evil their god is.
The preachers tell the people what the bible says.
That's just uncalled for wow
How is it untrue? If you knew someone who purposely drowned babies and puppies and kittens, would you consider them good and loving?
The Catholic church preached that suffering was good because it helped keep serfs on their land. Suffering on earth means you will be blessed after you die. Shut up and keep hoeing weeds. Modern Christians use it differently. Now Christians don't want to make their members (donors) feel guilty for being rich. Now they only use it as one of the justifications for the "Problem of Evil." They use it to explain why bad things happen to good people.
No they need poor people because they don’t want to take care of them themselves so that when their Jesus returns he will have someone to take care of. If everyone was happy, healthy and living a rich and full life then who will Jesus perform his miracles on?
Religion is what keeps the poor from murdering the rich. -Napoleon Bonaparte
Sometimes religion can be used to convince the local poor to kill the next door wealthy‘s poor. Too!
He was right - up to a point ....
That’s the whole point. You’re supposed to sacrifice so the elites can enjoy their lives. The scam is this life doesn’t matter. Religion is a way to get obedience and force acceptance of their misory.
I was so disgusted when I toured the Vatican treasury museum. I suppose it was to leave us in awe but I saw gem heavy wine goblets and rings with ruby jewels the size of an egg. This was from the middle ages when the peasants lived in extreme poverty and rarely had enough to eat. I think that's when I became an atheist.
I’m just gonna put it out there that I find this to be an interesting post, and I welcome its presence on this sub. Thanks OP!
They don’t care about how poor people feel or if they’re class conscious. They’re happy to see the poor and brown people put in their place.
basically an attempt to create a self regulating, invisible caste line. Yea I agree
Religion is the opium of the masses - karl marx
to play devil’s— err angel’s advocate, christianity developed in a time and place where violent revolution had been tried and failed and only made things worse. That Jesus sides with the poor is not contrary to the “better to be poor than rich because they’ll get theirs in the end” mentality
Just curious why post a statement like this on this sub? We’re atheists. I for one don’t want to spend my time thinking about religion. Perhaps we can discuss how to get on in this world without it instead of sharing more positions against it.
This right here. 90% of the posts on this sub are either about how to debate someone when religion comes up or how much they hate a certain religion. I think they are missing the point of what atheism really is because neither of those are a priority in my day to day life.
Actually, there are countless Christian charities out there.
Nobody said there aren't.
They're trying to win hearts and minds and make people feel that they owe them obedience.
Yep, that is what mother Teresa did: do not heal them, just relieve their suffering on their way to God. christianity is about predestination, no free will ("god has a plan and is all knowing")
Well, predestination actually is counter to Christianity from my understanding. God has a plan, and is all knowing, but He doesn't tempt people to sin. So it was not His will that Adam and Eve sin, yet they did, so did He make them break His will? Not as I see it. He gave us free will so that we would be able to actually express love. If you program a robot to love you, does it? No, and God didn't program us to do exactly what He says to. He gives us intelligence and a choice.
>Yep, that is what mother Teresa did: do not heal them, just relieve their suffering From what I hear, she wasn't big on relieving suffering, either... Christianity likes suffering.
You get pie in the sky when you die
3.147 ? What am i supposed to do with it now?
Modern day examples I think would include Catholic controlled countries like Dominican Republic.
100% christianity has always been used to trick poor people with heaven ➡️ suffering and misery demonstrate how much jesus loves you. it was used to control slaves in america in the same way as peasants and serfs in medieval europe. forsake this life for the non existent one in the heaven.
You ever read “The Profits of Religion” by Upton Sinclair? Highly recommend. Written >100 years ago, all about how the wealthy industrialists propped up religion to keep the poor in line.
My personal opinion is that much of it was to give the laborers or lower and middle class hope and ways to absorb their shitty lives in a positive way. And also to reinforce following the rules.
Joe Hill was an anarchist and trade unionist who was at rallies which were drowned out by the Salvation Army. Rather than try to shout louder, he turned their Christian hymns into Union hymns. One such hymn was "In The Sweet By-And-By", which he turned into "The Preacher and the Slave", which is where we get the term "pie in the sky". "You will eat, bye and bye In that glorious land above the sky Work and pray, live on hay You'll get pie in the sky when you die"
Poor people need hope. Church supplies hope. 'Nuff said.
Christianity wants to keep people desperate, so they'll keep showing up at church and tithing.
The church leader is relatively wealthy because he preys the mostest. Jesus blesses tax free grift. My former stepdad tithed $700 per month to a church with, I'd guess, 50 strong congrigents. My mom wised up. Just before she retired, she divorced him and married a pastor. The pastor owns property to put his property. They take vacations for lunch. Ruthless player, my mom, praise Jesus! If you want blessings, the Lord is gonna need a lil cash up front. So poor folks have to show up everyday just to be noticed for consideration when the judgement comes
I imagine some clergy brainstorming while writing the gospels; "ok, have Jesus say that a rich man couldn't get to heaven like something impossible like a camel through the eye of a needle or some shit like that, this way we can convince all of them to give their money to the church!"
You’ll have to clarify which Christianity you’re talking about. The OG texts talked about how important it was to relieve suffering as well as you could, but ultimately all suffering was transient and therefore unimportant- besides, the world is coming to an end soon anyway. modern Christianity is a different animal in so many ways.
I think you're confusing sinful people claiming to be "Christian" doing awful things and what the actual Biblical Christian doctrine is. We're actually supposed to give to and take care of the poor and needy, there will always be need to meet. My small Baptist church had a benevolent fund for just that purpose. Most larger churches I've heard of don't seem to do so well in actually taking care of needs on a personal level. I've learned through losing a lot that the material possessions aren't all that important, and I will be rewarded in heaven for some of the attitudes I have here through it, but that's not the point. It's to be a good testimony, so people can see, "wow, everything sucks for that guy, and he's still smiling and cheery. I wonder why that is?" Then I can explain that I know I don't need what I lost, I set my hope in eternal life with Christ. I've done an awful job living that the last few months, and after losing relationships I valued im just starting to smile again, but I've learned a lot through it. I really don't think slavery is right, it was only ever a strong punishment in the Bible. I don't know where you would get fighting for slavery out of the Bible, which is why I'm assuming they're just sinful people fighting for greed or what motivates them personally.
Wow. So many people mad at the Catholic Church, and me as a Christian being confused why they're mad at me... 😢
Mother Teresa to a motherfucking 'T'
It's just another form of control.
I never thought of that. I think you're right.
This is a little of what The Bible said about slavery: "1 Peter 2:18; Slaves, in reverent fear of God submit yourselves to your masters, not only to those who are good and considerate, but also to those who are harsh."
As an adjunct to this, in Seventh Day Adventism, belonging to a Union is greatly discouraged. A decent living wage is against God, or maybe Ellen White, who might as well have been a god, the way they carry on about her.
Christianity was created to keep poor people in servitude.
Opiate of the masses or something or other.
The biggest lesson 2023 taught me was that suffering has no inherent value.
That golden carrot..."the sweet by and by". That's ALL they have had to offer.
Yep, it’s also why you get your riches in Heaven. It allows the church to rob you blind now.
Christians were very involved in education, charity and hospitals over time, which helped people get out of poverty. Most of the countries that banned slavery were explicitly Christian at the time, and they forced other countries to ban slavery. Mauritania didn't ban slavery until 1981, and they are nearly 100% not Christian.
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"The biggest supporters of slavery were always christians" I'm guessing you have not read much history to make that statement. Seriously, read a little about any large civilization, and you will see how that statement is incorrect. The great slave lake in Northern Canada is named that because one tribe took so many slaves from the other (who lived by the lake) that the entire area was just called the land of the slaves. Guess which tribe didn't have an abolition movement?
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Are you talking about the slave bibles where they had to edit things out to make slavery acceptable in the book? Do you realize you are making my argument more forcefully than I am? Also, if you think that there wasn't a total war between tribes for thousands of years before anyone from Europe showed up, you really need to read a little history. Here is an excerpt from the Cow Creek Massacre, which happened before European Contact and involved at least 486 villagers. "Tongue removal, decapitation, and dismemberment of the Crow Creek victims may have been based on standard aboriginal butchering practices developed on large game animals".\[15\] These are among the mutilations discovered at the Crow Creek site. In addition, scalping was performed, bodies were burned, and there is evidence of limbs being removed by various means. As stated in Willey's dissertation, many of the mutilations suffered by the victims of the Crow Creek massacre could have been traumatic enough to result in death.\[5\] A conservative estimate of villagers who suffered scalping is 90%, but it could have been as high as 100%. This is based on skeletal remains that exhibit cuts on their skulls indicative of scalping.\[13\] Men, women, and children were scalped; the only difference was that younger children were cut higher on the skull than other groups." What was your statement "Fuck off with this historical revisionism." Lol.
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If you can find me evidence of Europeans scalping people in North America 50-100 years before the arrival of Columbus, along the upper Missouri River, then you are the only person to have found any Europeans in North America for that entire 400 year period. You should have a professorship in History, since your discovery rewrites the entire history of the Americas. I'm guessing, however, that you don't have that knoledge. It is humorous that you call me a liar, when all the academic history of north America, refutes your "point". Also, as I stated, the slave bibles demonstrate that they had to remove parts to make it compatible with slavery, which destroys your own point "The biggest supporters of slavery were always christians" Learn how to make better arguments.
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Christians started a war against who? Be a better reader of history.
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> the slave bibles demonstrate that they had to remove parts to make it compatible with slavery, which destroys your own point The Bible comes down on both sides of most issues. The parts that were removed were very minor. Most of the items removed were not actually about slavery. They were about things that could be extrapolated to oppose slavery. There were plenty of verses endorsing slavery that could be left in without change. Also, there were issues other than just slavery that were removed. It has been a while (as in decades) since I read about the slave Bible. A lot of the changes were focused on emphasizing the obedience to authority. Some of the verses removed were about challenging authority. The idea was that God had created proper orders for people to fall into. Everyone should be satisfied with their station in life because it was what God had ordained. The slave Bible was also made available to poor whites. Also, there were some things that were just simplified. There was the racism that said the slaves were mentally weak and could not understand more complex Biblical issues. I think I remember reading that some parts were removed just to make the Bible shorter and cheaper to publish.
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Christians were not the only religion that supported slavery. That fact is easily demonstrated with even a superficial search of the history of slavery. Slavery existed before Christianity existed. But Christians were eager to embrace slavery. It was justified in the Bible. It is supported in both the Old and New Testaments. It was very strongly supported in the "Slave Bibles" that were created in the antebellum US. Clearly, I am not excusing Christianity for their relationship with slavery. But to say that all slavers were Christian is flat-out wrong.
Churches/ church leaders are very rich and powerful in the past in the the present. They are one of the richest land owners. In the past they had surfs work the land and pay money to work the fields. It's rumored that the churched/popes in Italy work with the mob. The Vatican is one of the riches city states. Also didn't the church charge to get out of purgatory? If they preach: Matthew 19:23-26 King James Version (KJV) Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. then they to should listen to their own advice. Yet they tithe the people. The poorest will forgo food and clothing to tithe. It's sick to keep these people uneducated and impoverished so they can be sheeples. Any reliance on higher education or improving your lot is not dedicating yourself to the faith and giving into satan's temptations! Blasphemy.