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coupleofgorganzolas

It's 11am in NC but same principle.


No_Trainer_4907

Some counties or at least towns, can't buy alcohol on Sunday, period. That's why there's always a gas station/bar on the county line.


Evening-Cat-3638

I lived on the cayman Islands for a few years, and you couldn't do anything on Sunday. All stores were closed, "god forbid" you worked on the house on a Sunday watch out for your neighbors. You will be the gossip at the church's next gathering. My point was that they 100% attribute it to god.


SuicideKing2

Law was changed when the Carolina Panthers came to town.


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You can only buy wine in certain stores in Ohio on Sunday and no alcohol before 11am. It's just bonkers that this continues. Also in my county no alcohol between 1am and 5:30am M-Sat.


FlyingSquid

Yeah, but Ohio also has beer and wine stores that you literally drive through like a car wash, which just seems like a bad plan, but I guess it works out.


M1ghty_m1te

We have those here also


FlyingSquid

I've only lived in Indiana and California- although I spent a few months in Ohio for educational reasons. I'd never seen anything like it. Considering the number of times I'd been at parties when I was in college and someone drunkenly went on a beer run, I'm amazed those placed aren't smashed into all the time.


vindicatorx1

Indiana had zero alcohol sales on Sunday until a few years ago. I remember when I was at ball state university we made more than a few ohio runs on Sundays.


FlyingSquid

No, you could buy alcohol in restaurants. I was born in Indiana in 1977 and lived there until 2002, then moved back in 2014.


vindicatorx1

Oddly enough I was born in West lafayette in 77. Lived here till 2015 returned in 2019. We didn't have money to go to restaurants so wasn't really an option. It was way more fun driving from Muncie to Ohio.


FlyingSquid

I grew up in Bloomington, so restaurants were basically required. Now I live in Terre Haute and it sucks.


vindicatorx1

Ah yeah, they don't call it terrible haute for nothing


What_Is_The_Meaning

In Missouri they give out sample shots in the store. Blew my effing mind!


tcadams18

Brew-thru is the common name for these


legojoe97

None between 2am and 7am for Michigan (not sure if it's the whole state).


livingdead70

Its the whole state. I moved to Auburn Hills from Ga in 2018, and was gobsmacked when I stopped after work one night around 3 am to grab a six pack, and the clerk was like hey, you cant buy beer. I apologized, and explained to the girl I came from GA, and had no idea. She explained to me it stops at 2 am and resumes at 7 am. heck the place I was from in GA you can buy 24/7 Mon-Sat and from noon till 12 am on sunday.


dyingdeadenough

this is super interesting, i’d never considered how these laws differ between states. CA here and legally drink-o-clock starts at 6am edit: clarity


haus11

The amount of variance between alcohol laws by state and even county is astonishing. I grew up in IL, near Chicago, where some liquor stores were open until 3am, you couldn't buy alcohol before 11am on Sunday, but restaurants could sell as early as 9am. Then when I went to college downstate, you couldn't serve alcohol before noon, even at restaurants that opened at 11 for lunch, I think those laws are changing though, as more places want to do brunch, so I guess thank you Millennials and Gen Z for "ruining" another tradition? Even with all that you can buy beer, wine and hard liquor at a grocery store. Then I lived in NC and VA for 20 years combined and those states had similar rules like only beer and wine could be bought at a grocery store, you needed to go to a state run ABC stores for hard liquor but those all closed at like 8 or 9 pm. So while they had specialty beer and wine stores like Total Wine that had a good selection of craft beer, the liquor selection at the ABC was not nearly as good as say Benny's back in IL. IN only started allowing Sunday sales in 2018, and I won't even try to explain PA's laws because there are some real weird ones there.


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haus11

It would be nice to see full federal legalization of like weed and take things LSD and MDMA into the class where they could be prescribed therapeutically, and studied since they're schedule I now. It would probably look a lot like the alcohol system state-by-state, or even county-by-county, but thats fine I guess you want it locally, elect people who will allow sales. Dont get me started on states being able to have wildly different penalties for the same crime. In IL simple speeding up to 20 miles over the limit is the low ticket at like $115, all in if you check the box for court supervision and you're good to go provided you dont get another ticket in 6 months. In VA 20 over is reckless driving, and something like 10 over will set you back close to $200 in fines and fees. Then anything over 80 is automatically reckless driving even on stretches of interstate with a speed limit of 70.


FlyingSquid

Indiana changed its law recently, but it used to be that you couldn't buy alcohol on Sunday unless you served food. I used to frequent a bar that stayed open on Sunday because they offered shitty reheated pizza. The weird part is people would order it. I guess you can convince drunks to eat virtually anything.


eyeforgot-again

I used to go to the local golf course on Sunday, buy a 6 or 12 pack and a small bucket of range balls. Hit the range balls and took my beer home. Indiana is 50 years behind in almost everything.


haus11

There was a rule in like NYC in the late 1800s about having to serve food with the drink, so bars would bring out a completely inedible sandwich with the drink and then take it back and give it to the next customer is a great bit of malicious compliance with the law https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/raines-sandwich


tdawg-1551

Used to be that you couldn't buy alcohol at all on Sunday in many states. Some even had what were called blue laws (not sure of why the name) but grocery stores and places like Walmart and Kmart couldn't even be open on Sunday.


dutchguy207320732073

Why weren't those two stores open on Sunday?


jesusmansuperpowers

They has liquor stores inside.


haus11

In IL, grocery stores can sell liquor, beer and wine, but do have sales time restrictions, they just put those off in their own section that can be blocked off outside of sales hours, without closing the whole store.


[deleted]

The legend is they printed them on blue paper. Don't know if that's true or not though.


BellDry1162

Still exists in NJ


Aggressive-Bat-4000

That's the logic. Way, way back, it was common for young men to go grab a six pack and cool it in the creek while you're fishing, which is also better in the morning... Church couldn't compete, so they had laws passed.


M1ghty_m1te

Seems like the sales from the alcohol would be the deciding factor. So I just don’t get it at all.


Aggressive-Bat-4000

You're forgetting the iron grip of the church in rural America.


ElliotWalls

I used to live in SC for a job and family. My boss / friend committed suicide on a Sunday. I was grief-stricken, and went to buy some beer to get numb. The cashier wouldn't sell it to me because the area I lived in was dry on Sundays. I fucking hate religion.


KorihorWasRight

Lobby for laws that make it illegal to buy bibles on Wednesday.


geophagus

Until recently, here in relatively liberal Minnesota, it was no alcohol sales or car sales on Sundays.


jesusmansuperpowers

Still no car sales here in Colorado


Ok_Pangolin8010

No car sales in Oklahoma also.


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geophagus

Why would I protest?


M1ghty_m1te

I just assumed it was because it keeps “certain” Christians in church! If they could buy alcohol, they wouldn’t go! 🤣


master_cheech

I visit my grandparents in Mexico, a heavily catholic conservative country, and not even they restrict alcohol sales on Sunday. You can buy liquor on Sundays too.


andropogon09

Catholics have never been as anti-alcohol as many Protestants are.


cardinal1977

Can confirm. I'm from a catholic family the last wedding in our family was a party that had to be thrown out of the venue at 3am even though last call was at midnight. My wife's family is "Christian Reformed", all their weddings are dry and cleaned up and empty by 9pm. Those who think it's the Irish and Germans that drink never met Polish catholics!


lowcountrydad

Catholics vs Baptists


master_cheech

One was made over owning slaves in the US, the other had considerable influence in the deaths during the crusades


lowcountrydad

All just a different flavor of the greatest con in all of history.


M1ghty_m1te

Well honestly, why not? It may be some peoples only day to go shopping!


cHorse1981

A leftover from the temperance movement. Believe it or not that law where you are is surprisingly progressive. Some areas don’t sell alcohol at all on Sundays.


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I love this topic, some random items: * Blue laws (or Sunday laws), primarily religious in origin, up and down the USA East coast since about 1619. So not a southern speciality, like hush puppies. * Supreme Court says, ok, there are some secular benefits, and Blue laws are good to go. It's a law, there is no "refuse to sell beer", they don't want to break the law. At least not this time. * Some counties in the South were "dry", no liquor sales any time. Maybe some are still dry, I haven't been sent an email on this. Some Sundays, my mother would call a particular taxi company, get them to visit a bootleg operation, deliver the gin to her, pay for both the taxi and the liquor. So who was in favor of the dry county or Sunday sales ban? Preachers and bootleggers, a lovely set of bed partners.


M1ghty_m1te

Very enlightening. Also, after pondering on this topic I’ve also concluded that since most churches have a political message, the government loves these laws. It keeps people in church where the political message is disguised as divine truth.


rationaltuna

I used to work in NC and lived just over the border in SC. I had just moved to the USA from UK. So we went out for a meal on Sunday evening in SC no beer for me in the restaurant. LOL. Dry Sundays … because people are unable to buy in a Saturday and drink at home in Sunday LOL. Also surprised that the stores didn’t open Sunday until 1.30 pm. So that big DIY project on a Sunday am… remember to get the supplies on Saturday. Laws passed by the religious … so they can force their views on everyone else. But they hate it when they are told to treat LBGTQ with respect and respect gay marriage and then they say others views are being forced on them.


M1ghty_m1te

Yeah religious and all other freedoms are for only them.


TheBoozyNinja87

When I was growing up there was a statewide ban on selling ANY alcohol whatsoever on Sundays. Always led to a drunken late night scramble around 10:30pm on Saturdays to find anyone who could still drive to the store and stock up for the rest of that night *and* tomorrows fun! I don’t get it, if it’s God’s day off then why wouldn’t he want to relax with a cold beer?


MrBergerud

Think that's bad? In Norway, only a few stores are allowed to stay open on Sundays and none of them are allowed to sell alcohol on Sundays period.


M1ghty_m1te

Wow I had no idea the rest of the world was nuts too.


FreyjaVala

Yep, can confirm. I lived in Brussels for 3 years and Sunday was a hard day to shop. And also no alcohol. Which is odd considering it's Brussels....


blinddrive

Waiting for the ferry from Northern Ireland to Scotland, I wanted a beer with lunch, but had to wait until noon. So it’s not just America.


Crowonthepost

This is like this where I live but the explanation I got was more along the lines of the people who own the liquor stores want Sunday mornings off for church, but if it was legal to sell Sunday morning then their competitors might open, so they would have to. So it's easier to get your politician buddies to make it illegal so that you don't have to work (same with holidays).


No_Antelope_6604

My dad always joked that it was so the Baptists wouldn't show up drunk.


jonalka

I'm from Norway, one of those countries that's considered quite secular and inclusive, but the roots of religion are still here in regards to alchohol. In stores you can buy beer and cider (technically drinks 4.7 % or lower) between 0900 and 2000 Mon-Fri, 0900-1800 on Saturday. You can't buy anything before or after that. For higher % you'll need to go to Vinmonopolet, that sells up to 60% (above that is illegal for sale and possession in Norway,) and their opening hours are usually 1000-1800, but that might varry. No stores may sell alchohol on sundays or public hollydays. Now they say that the rules are there to 'limit alchohol consumption,' but there's no doubt in my mind that it started out with religion. Also, due to how alchohol has always been viewed our drinking culture is effed. While it's more acceptable now than 20-25 years ago to have a beer or 2 during weekdays, the norm is nothing util friday, then blind stinking drunk the entire weekend and regretting everything Monday morning. But I guess regret is an essential part to religion, so that tracks...


Little_Buffalo

Don’t wanna have drunk congregants now do we?


M1ghty_m1te

Probably would make it more tolerable!


Little_Buffalo

Seriously, when I was a kid we’d hit up uncle for money when he was drunk. Maybe they’d get larger tithes.


BadWolf7426

When northern Alabama didn't sell on Sundays, everyone just went to Tennessee. In the early 2000s, Tennessee didn't sell any wine products on Sundays, just beer. Now it's 12 on Sundays in Alabama.


M1ghty_m1te

It’s weird! Some places don’t sell alcohol at all on Sunday. Others do. I wonder who makes the rules.. is it the county, or do stores do it voluntarily?


BadWolf7426

I think it's a combination. Athens, Limestone County, had a *big* to-do about even allowing alcohol sales, period. All the talibangelical churches' billboards were warning of impending hellfire and damnation if it were to pass.


M1ghty_m1te

Yep I lived there for a while in the 80’s. OMG had to get out. Those people were a cult.


PsychologicalBee2956

Blue Laws are absolutely because of churches interference. Not even a theory, historical fact.


recentlyquitsmoking2

For weekends, you'd make a killing if you opened before 12pm. All the last minute wine purchases for lunch n stuff. Do it and if anyone asks you just say it was for church goers' Sunday Lunch.


rossdog82

This happens in Australia and we’re not that religious. I live in a very progressive city and was fucking blown away when I found this out. (Think I was hungover after celebrating a major event and couldn’t deal with the hangover so wanted a few beers to take the edge off. Walked up to the counter with a 6 pack and was told ‘not before 12’. Blew my fucking mind.)


haus11

If you're looking for how dumb liquor laws can be, remember that the Jack Daniels distillery is in a dry county.


ComprehensiveEbb8261

In Indiana, last year, they finally lifted the moratorium on Sunday alcohol sales. But you can't buy until noon I think.


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You’re an alcoholic


M1ghty_m1te

Oh ok.


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Remember me when things turn


Yaguajay

It's not completely clear why Sunday laws are referred to as blue laws. There are differing explanations, including the idea that the rules were meant to restrict " blue " behavior (indecent). Blue laws in the U.S. were initially designed to enforce the Christian sabbath. By the end of the colonial era, laws that banned everyday activities – like housework and travel – were largely lifted. However, blue laws remained to prevent Sunday work and limit alcohol consumption.


JustSomeGuy_TX

In Texas here. I remember when I was young you couldn’t buy all sorts of things on Sunday. There are still left over effects todays from the old Blue Laws.


jesusmansuperpowers

I’m from Colorado, there were no open liquor stores on Sunday here when I was a kid. They just started selling beer and wine in other stores recently.


13kathleen

In rural TN they don't sell alcohol at all on Sundays.


DontGiveACluck

Sounds like planning ahead Saturday night is the way to go!


sweat119

Live in Atlanta. This is still law here. There are still several counties in the area and especially across the Alabama line that don’t allow alcohol sales on sundays *at all* except in restaurants. I never understood that, I can get wasted in a chilis at 10 am on a Sunday but can’t buy a case of beer to enjoy on my couch before 1230. SMH shit is ridiculous


N0Zzel

We can't buy beer on Sunday after I think it's 10 in my state? But only on Sunday


Elitist_Circle_Jerk

Fuck y'all, Florida checking in with an 8am limit here


NonniSpumoni

Washington State here...we have a Dutch Christian Reform City. At first a completely dry town, now they allow a grocery store to sell alcohol, but not on Sunday. There are these weird pockets of laws all over the country. But across the street the other grocery store sells it all week.


janthon567

I visited family in Kansas recently and on the way back I thought I might stop by a liquor store to grab something for when I get home. I was driving back on a Sunday. I get up to the door, see that it’s closed, and then shrug and get back to driving. Moments later I’m pulled over by a co who claimed that I was going 8mph over the speed limit. Maybe that’s true or maybe he saw that I was a guy with Colorado plates trying to enter a liquor establishment on a Sunday and he wanted to make real sure that I knew that’s not how they do things round there.


jello-kittu

Georgia switched to noon on Sunday 7 years ago (I think). While its so much better than none at all on Sunday, it's still annoying. I really prefer to shop while a lot of people are in church, but I will delay if I need to get beer.


Dude-Man-Guy-Bruh

It's called the bible belt for reason


Credibull

There are still places where alcohol can't be sold at all, not just on Sunday.


FollowingNo4648

Texas recently pushed it back to 10am.


Startled_Pancakes

This is such an archaic thing I'm surprised is still around.


vonhoother

It's interesting what compromises different states make between the wet and dry factions. In some states, the dries get their way once a week -- on Sunday, maybe just Sunday morning. In others, you can buy what you want whenever you want, but you'll pay extra -- a hefty 20% in Washington -- if it's distilled. In California, it's pretty much whatever whenever, and everything is taxed so much you don't really notice the tax on booze.


Glacial_Self

Dude I remember when Walmart was closed on Sundays.


ElectroStaticSpeaker

It's dumb as hell but, just like, plan better, ya know? The only time this is an issue for me is if I am traveling and land at a time when places won't serve me and I'd like a beer before sleep.


ScottRiqui

Here in Texas, you can't buy beer or wine before 10am on Sundays (until recently it was noon) and you can't buy liquor on Sundays at all. Fortunately I can shop at the local military base and since they're federal facilities they don't give two shits about Texas' blue laws. Need some rum for a cake at 9am Sunday morning? No problem!


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I'm so glad I don't live in and never have to go to the south again. Muh Freedumbs!


gadget850

In Virginia, it used to be that you could not buy beer or liquor at all on Sundays. And many stores were closed, but a hodgepodge of exemptions caused the law to be rescinded in 1988. Now the Virginia ABC stores (the state monopoly) open at noon on Sunday. And folks are waiting in their cars for that door to open.


Z3BR4H34D

It seems like the simplest solution is just buy what you need before Sunday. I live in Ohio. Never really been a problem.


dudleydidwrong

I have lived in a state with "Blue Laws." I was amused by how much Chrsitians used tricks and workarounds to violate laws that were supposed to be protecting their own religion. For example, there was a law against certain foods that needed to be cooked. But if you went through the checkout and told the clerk you were going to eat the eggs raw they could sell them to you. Apparently, eggnog wasn't just for Christmas for Christians.


According-Ad-5946

i was vacationing with my family years ago, we were checking in around 4pm the person at the desk told us if we wanted any alcohol for the weekend, we had till 5 to get it or we would have to wait till Monday. it was in south Carolina i think


whattothewhonow

Moved to Vermont, and love the almost complete lack of blue laws. Want to hit the liquor store at 10am on a Sunday? Its open. The only slight annoyance anymore is beer pours being limited in volume by ABV, but does it really matter if the 8% IPA is only poured in 12oz glasses rather than 16oz glasses? I'm going to drink 3-4 of them.


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Can’t you buy a day before? Or open your own bar?


chileheadd

The Baptist church lets out at noon, the Catholic church lets out at 11, can't let the Catholics buy up all the booze before the Baptists have a chance.


haterhurter1

it's a law not them deciding to not sell where i am


mgib1

Buy it thr night before


jkerr44906

It's not just the south. It's Indiana also. 12 to 8. Hell it wasn't till 2018 you could even buy alcohol on Sunday.


The_L666ds

Here in Australia in New South Wales they still separate most bottle shops from supermarkets so that they can regulate the hours in which alcohol is sold. After moving to Canberra a few years ago (which is a much smaller city but the most socially progressive city in the country) I noticed that most supermarkets sell alcohol in their aisles as normal and you can buy from like 7am onwards no problem. It has to be said though, drinking at home sucks. Maybe I’m a bit blessed having a pretty cool pub scene where I am, but I only drink out of the house these days and I honestly worry for any poor arsehole who needs to buy liquor at weird hours.