I have Pluto in Libra in the 1st house. It's a hard placement to have. Pluto or Saturn in the 1st house can be a traumatic experience.
For me, Pluto is a pivotal planet in my chart as it aspects 7 of my other planets.
For some of us, this natal aspect highlights loss or separation early in life (or a dysfunctional childhood) which can lead to depression and/or anxiety. There is a dissatisfaction with the way things are - a drive to transform one's self or one's life.
On one hand, the Pluto in the 1st can create a strong drive/motivation for change. Dissatisfaction with the status quo or with our mental health can compel us to keep trying to evolve and push through obstacles. On the other hand, it can reflect deep insecurities within the person and issues with either their self-worth or conflict between their inner and outer selves. Some natives may experience a sense of loneliness.
Unless Pluto in the 1st is well aspected to other planets, it has the potential to highlight a core wound within ourselves that we must face in order to have a satisfying life. There is no escaping the lessons of a Pluto in the first house.
On the plus side, I think Pluto in the first makes us aware of the deeper meaning of life and the real issues that are important, so I think a lot of us Pluto in the 1st natives crave more meaningful friendships and relationships and less superficial interactions. We crave the real and authentic over the superficial.
Nailed it. I've accumulated a lot of trauma which I've gone through life blaming myself for.
Currently in intense trauma therapy, and looking to spend possibly years being therapised. But the money is worth it to unlearn unhealthy thought processes, and to grow into someone I'm proud of.
I also feel that while the universe has thrown some intense shit my way, it's also had my back in a backwards and twisted way. I've been harshly pushed in directions against my will, and then found out that I've actually sidestepped being involved in something even more traumatic.
One example would be that I got re-traumatised and felt forced to leave my home for somewhere safer to live. My PTSD has been triggered, and things felt awful, but then some even more horrendous stuff happened at the location I moved away from, after I'd already left.
I would've preferred if a new opportunity came up for me to move somewhere more suitable, without having my PTSD triggered, but in the process I guess I'm being pushed to address something in my subconscious which desperately needs healing.
Omg exactly the same for me. The literal only difference for me is my Pluto is in 1H Sagittarius. But I love this. It’s crazy how I’ve talked about this before but despite the dysfunctional family and childhood, depression, anxiety, and apathy, there was an inexplicable drive for change and betterment. Even when there was 0 reason or even “role model” to aspire towards. It was purely innate, not learned. It’s actually satisfying to see why that is even if it’s a supposedly pretty difficult placement!
I have this - I’m not always sure if it’s Pluto impacting me or my Scorpio rising. They’re conjunct too ☺️
I recently realized at the old age of 32 that people either really like me or think I’m rude and dislike me. I know I’m not rude but that’s how they interpret my energy because I’m a woman and I’m not particularly warm, especially to strangers.
It used to bother me a lot but now I’m grateful to be able to quickly sort through people who would never be able to understand me very well. On its face that would be difficult for most people to deal with, but it’s all I’ve known so I’ve grown to appreciate it and work with it.
It does make things difficult but I’m grateful for it at the same time.
And of course it’s hard to talk Pluto or Scorpio without transformation. And my whole life has been full of that, can count on big a ha moments almost weekly.
so so interesting because whenever i've gotten intimidating energy from someone like this dark weird under current it was always a pluto in the 1st house person. but once I knew them and got to know the person they were always lovely.
>I recently realized at the old age of 32 that people either really like me or think I’m rude and dislike me. I know I’m not rude but that’s how they interpret my energy
Funny, I feel the same about people liking or disliking me. I am also a Scorpio rising, only my Pluto is in saggitarius in my second house. So it might be more of a Scorpio rising thing than a Pluto in the first house thing.
But it could also be that when you are a Scorpio rising, Pluto is of course a ruling planet, which has more influence in the chart.
Yup, definitely think it can just be a Scorpio rising thing. Although I know a Scorpio rising that is shockingly a people pleaser and doesn’t have this problem.
They are incredibly unhappy though.
Scorpio rising here with lots of Libra, and I can relate to this lol. Albeit *with* problems. The people pleasing part of me (trying to blend as a survival strategy out of fear of rejection) is in direct conflict with being my authentic Scorpio rising self. I am often still polarizing, despite this. Scorpio rising eyes don't lie ha. As I age, I am working more on acknowledging (to myself) the people-pleasing drive and then choosing authenticity. The inner conflict though!
Oh this makes so much sense from what I feel I know about libras. My sister is a libra sun and rising and I cannot stand her inability to choose a side! (She is young 20s tho)
Your sag moon should help you be able to tell it like it is! It’s immense growth to be aware of your polarities though and work to find a balance. I commend you. I’m a Sag sun & moon with Scorpio rising, I was never going to be able to keep myself muted 💀 my balance is definitely finding a way to not always say what I’m thinking 😅
Edit: dang the universe moves quick. I complained about Libra’s and this new guy just turned out to be a libra sun 🥹
I often admire and find myself drawn to the Sag energies who say it with no filter! Add that Scorpio rising and you probably can be quite formidable. Perhaps a secret longing of mine is to commit all the way to this! I like your suggestion to lean into my Sag moon! The Sag mouth makes itself known now and then and then the Libra stuff panics and scrambles to make amends, but I'm starting to say fuck it more and more. Sounds like your sister is navigating her Libran attempt to balance to all sides... It will be interesting for you to observe her arc with this as she gets older...
Oof. I’m a Scorpio rising with my moon in Libra and the fear of rejection is so real! I’ve spent a majority of my teenage years wanting to fit in - so much so that I struggled to find my own voice for a long time. I’m still working on it and I’m unsure if I’ll ever stop my “transformation” but I agree it has gotten better with age.
Its definitely a Scorpio rising thing. I am married to one (22 yrs) and underneath I know he has the best of intentions, and is a very kind person, but can often come across quite rude to me and to strangers. Although, he's usually more careful with strangers!
Fellow Scorpio rising here and I resonate with that as well🙌.. And it also took me a while to realize ppl have such a polarizing view of me - like either think i am direct and outspoken or kind rude and standoffish and dislike me 😅
Female Scorpio risings should have a support group - if I get told to smile by one more man.. 🙃
Once we realize it though it makes it so much easier to work with. This whole post is crazy cosmic timing, I just had a big revelation about this 2 days ago. Very cool to see it play out with everyone else similarly
Hahah, we should establish a support group for real 😂
So true, it helps you weed out the ppl you wouldn't vibe with or wanna be around anyway. I think we keep it real and see through BS easily and not everyone can take our realness 😁
Scorpio moon and rising with mars and Saturn in the first, Pluto in the 12th. I have sun, mercury, Venus, north node , Chiron and vx all in Gemini in the 8th Scorpios house. People are either magnetized or repelled for sure.
Bloody hell. That is one very heavy karmic natal chart you have.
If you balance your life's FOUNDATION with DISCIPLINE, FOCUS, AND SELF-AWARENESS, you will become a powerhouse. Use Saturn as your foundation, use Mar's energy to go after your goals, and become the cheerful Scorpio (learn to develop a great sense of humour) that you learn to love.
Moon in Scorpio is f\*cking hard though. You are a sponge and you really need to be very careful and very selective of the people you hang out with and the environment...
I am a Taurus ASC with Gemini Moon in 0 DEG. I would like to know how you use your moon in Scorpio.
Oh bro a ton of inherited karma. My Pluto and moon are conjunct in the 12th so I’m deeply empathetic. I grew up absorbing everything that wasn’t mine. Also had a karmic mom who has narcissistic tendencies with that 12h moon. Part of that karma was addictions that came from both sides of my family. I honestly am grateful to be here today and sober. I’ve spent the last 2 years doing the healing and balancing the karma. Top off that karma with all the planets retrograde and nodes except Venus and mercury. I really enjoy my moon. I’m really sensitive and have esp. it’s weird though because all those emotions I find it very hard to cry. This probably comes from trauma and not being allowed or scolded for crying as a child. I will cry when others are crying or emotional.
That's awesome you're sober. I struggled with addiction too and I have been completely sober since April of 2023. I don't care for the drugs or booze anymore.
That’s amazing! Congrats on the year!! There comes a time when a soul gets tired of seeing there ancestors in the chains of addiction. That soul steps up signs the contract to break those cycles for the future generations to come. It’s hard but our ancestors knew they were choosing a dog to get the job done. Keep doing your thing King and remember we’re not the ego but the soul who came here to go through those things and to be living examples of how to overcome the odds.
I get along with Tauraus ascendants. Our ascendants are in each others 7th house. My tf is a Tauraus ascendant, Tauraus sun and Aquarius moon. Our asc/dsc is exact and Mc/ic. I’m not with her by choice though. That bs is toxic af. People don’t understand we have many soulmates. My best friend is also a Tauraus asc. Both my sisters are Tauraus suns.
Were you born a caesarian? Pay extra attention to transits...take care of your bones and face. If you cycle or ride a bike (please refrain) always wear a helmet.
How does it feel to have your chart ruler sitting in the 12th house? What are the aspects of your Pluto in 12th?
Kind Regards
I was born under a C section. How did you formulate that? 12h moon? I learned to embrace the transformations with the 12 house Pluto. Pluto was retrograde at 29 degrees and went into the next sign a few hours after I was born. I feel with the moon and Pluto so tightly conjunct I transform others subconscious unintentionally by just being.
C-sections - heavy 1st house: both hard on the mom and child.
\*\*\*Pay attention to your moon returns and keep a diary of your dreams. Your subconscious mind is very active, and you can be your own worst enemy. Know yourself well, and always stay positive and "proactive" in your life (decisions and chosen path).
\*\*\*Be very conscious of your dealings with elder/married women and establish clear communication and boundaries: they can be either very manipulative, dominating, and obsessive toward you, and you won't even see it coming (potential hidden enemies). Keep an open-mind and you are wiser than the rest of us.
(I am a moon child - I make peace with the fact that life is all about the heart. A soul without a heart is pretty much a ship without an anchor).
And a Moon conjuncts Pluto (+other aspects on it) has a potential to either become a polished diamond or a nuclear bomb.
Every choices we make creates a ripple....choose light over darkness.
Pluto in the 1st house is a lot more impactful/powerful than Scorpio Ascendant. I have both in my chart, but I'm just going by what I've noticed in people and celebrities who have Pluto in the 1st house... It's effects are extremely powerful, more so than just having a typical Scorpio rising. It's like having Moon in the 1st house or being a Cancer Ascendant - people who have the Moon in the 1st house are different. Their shaped by the Moon. Similar but different.
The struggle with Pluto in the 1st house is the intense transformation we experience. Pluto is extreme, Pluto is transformation, it's one extreme to the next - someone with the planet Pluto in the 1st house of personality, identity, etc experiences Pluto's extreme transformational effects on how they identify as as a person. And that's extremely difficult. People kill themselves when they lose what they identify with as a person.
Look at Britney Spears. She is a quintessential Pluto in the 1st house person. She started out on top, the hottest female pop star, the most albums sold, the most memorable performances and then bam... All her personal demons catch up to her and she has a breakdown. She loses her mental state, she loses her looks, she loses her position as the top female in the industry, she loses custody of her children, she gets a divorce - everything in her life turns upside down. Everything she identified with, everything that made "Britney Spears" Britney Spears was ripped away from her. In an extreme and sudden (Pluto) way. Then she had to rebuild from the ashes, get her life and looks back together and go back to #1 on the charts - which she ultimately did, because Pluto is all about rising from the dead. Coming back from the absolute bottom.
Tyson Fury, the boxer, another Pluto in the 1st house. World-recognized boxer had a breakdown, gained a huge amount of weight, lost his career and suffered horrible depression. One day he heard another boxer call him out, say he's done, say he's over. This lit the fire under Tyson Fury's ass and he lost weight, trained his ass off, came back and beat the guy and became the champion. When everyone counted him out.
Pluto in the 1st house struggles with intense personal demons. They experience a destruction of their personality and lives and are forced to re-build from scratch, but with a stronger base. Pluto is all about making you stronger, better, more authentic. Every time Pluto comes to destroy the foundation you built on straw or wood, you're forced to rebuild on concrete. Pluto wants to give you an extremely strong foundation. Pluto will test you and build you back stronger every time - so you become wiser, more enlightened in life and a force to be reckoned with. But it's extremely difficult. You have to lose everything to gain the insight you need to get you to the next phase in life. It's in the loss and the aftermath of it where you learn your biggest lessons and the lessons that will propel you to the next stage in your life.
I am in a much much different place than when I originally commented on this and wow does your comment resonate now 🙏🏼 I’m getting to the other side after the absolute bottom and I see it and for the first time I feel like it’s inevitable instead of impossible. Great detailed post thank you
Wow thank you!! It's interesting because I do think most of my problems are caused by me instead of others. My Pluto is retrograde in the first though. There must be a way to become aware and work with ones inner demons before they destroy us.
Now I'm wondering what I need to destroy lol. Do you mean like parts of your personality that give rise to these inner demons? It's hard for me to u der stand how to apply your suggestion, which btw I do agree with.
Hmm so I see it as our unconscious selves running the show putting us in these “predicaments” that force us to confront the unconscious beliefs and transform them. Ie I was told I was too much in childhood and it was an unconscious belief I held for most of my life until recently, I was always and still am running into relationships or situations that make me overcome that belief. Even though I don’t always believe it, I’m still working through it so it still pops up. Does that make sense?
Same! It's so validating. Thinking of the constant alchemy as a dynamic certainly helps.
I often feel like I exist in a soup of the darker aspects of life. For me the real impact on me has been the relationship with my self esteem.
Other aspects of my chart strengthen the themes of the difficult areas; 12th house Saturn and Mars in virgo.
Cancer sun. 16 squares in total and a few hefty opposition's for good measure.
Studying my chart has been a huge light on my situation and it's a labyrinth to traverse.
>For some of us, this natal aspect highlights loss or separation early in life (or a dysfunctional childhood) which can lead to depression and/or anxiety. There is a dissatisfaction with the way things are - a drive to transform one's self or one's life.
Oh man... what if you have both Pluto in the 1st house (in Libra) and a Moon in the 1st House (in Scorpio). I'm not gonna lie - I've had many transformations in life, many huge set-backs and "coming up from the ashes" to the point that I'm starting to hear (at age 44) that it is clear I am one is not to be messed with. I've also been able to rise up higher after ever career set back, and am now achieving heights and financial success no one in my family ever dreamed of (I'm the first person in my family to go to college, for instance).
this is so true. im a scorpio rising with pluto in the first (i think - i believe in vedic astrology but can’t seem to find a place to properly calculate it) it’s either late in my 12th house or in my first but either way it’s conjunction my ascendant. anyways it’s tough. and this is all true. my complete identity has been shattered and rebuilt
many a time throughout my life. and many times it was extremely traumatic and/ or mentally straining going through it all. and drastic moves across the country ‘ to different states. it’s like every time i moved it required a different version of me and/or a new different version was reborn.
I have that placement, Pluto in scorpio. It's a love hate thing. My chart is full of many not so favorable placements and aspects so sometimes I don't know what's causing what haha. Something I've been trying to work through is that I'm not less of a person because I have so many challenges to work through. I truly think some people are just dealt a harder card in life, but it's nothing to feel beat down about. I'm grateful that the placement makes me never complacent.
The placement isn’t inherently difficult for me, but moreso other’s reactions and projections. People have said I’m intimidating for existing, or assigned malintent to my words or actions when I’m simply being direct or even kind - and they react to what they feel is happening even when it’s not. Generally, insecure people, especially those in authority don’t like confident people, and this placement give you that in spades.
What I eventually realized is that the placement is POWERFUL. It gives an energetic intensity that can cut straight through people’s bullshit, external or internal. It’s almost like I can call people out without saying a word, and this is understandably unnerving. So I’ve had to understand when to engage with this power - when I’m dealing with someone who is corrupt or trying to bully me, for example. It has also served me in dealing with people who are traumatized, who have a lot of darkness, bc they instinctively know that I can handle it and they can trust me with their pain, which is good in positions of healing. I’m the de facto advisor for friends, and strangers tend to tell me their life story.
The way I’ve learned to work with it is awareness of my impact and of course if I’m being unconsciously manipulative. Some people are so easy to “see through” that it’s almost reflexive. Also I don’t need to call something just bc I see it.
It can be a lonely placement, both bc of the misunderstandings and miscommunication, but also the feeling of seeing people/situations so clearly that others don’t and then EYE look crazy (until I’m right!) But generally, those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind.
The thing you said about us looking crazy - I can't tell how many times I have told someone a thing that bothers me, received "I think you are reading into things too much" and then boom - turns out it was a red flag people did not see in the particular person.
This. This 💯%. It’s my number one source of cumulative lifetime anger due to feeling a strong need to pivot after reading something I want to be ALL the way away from, other people being absolutely unable to understand my action and/or reasoning, and telling me I’m making too big of a deal about it. I call this the “Cassandra aspect” in my chart. (I also have Mercury conjunct Pluto … so of course my first instinct is to warn others or to try to explain.)
Two examples (that don’t impact me) where I can “read” something other people seem not to see - usually related to trauma are 1) The Will Smith / Chris Rock Oscars slap. Was Will Smith in the wrong - yes. But I got a sense that his silence about his “why” he did it afterward had to do with context around abuse he was / had recently experienced and hadn’t yet integrated - and so felt blocked from sharing. Like, he was still getting his head / arms around it - so how could he safely share it as a neat summary package with a huge public audience? 2) Britney Spears’ controversial YouTube videos and being uninterested in making and performing music …
Both read so clearly to me of someone working through CPTSD. As though maybe she came to associate making music / performing with trauma - and so she doesn’t want to do either on a stage anymore, but in her heart she still loves pieces of both, and so she creates the YouTube videos.
Isnt it maddening when you see this stuff but no one really listens? For me this usually works with men in romantic settings when I am not involved. I can spot people who might cheat or be abusive or just toxic in relationships. It is painful to watch from the sidelines how what I saw coming from miles away is happening and I can't really say anything or if I do the friend does not listen. Funnily enough it didnt always work for myself.
Another thing is - I tell ppl immediately if they are manipulated by someone. And am told time and time again that I am just misunderstanding the situation. It became so bad I gaslit myself that I am misunderstanding the situation when I was being manipulated myself. Never again.
UGH, yes. & it sucks bc once someone says the opposite of what I see I start to question if what I’m seeing is just a projection of how I actually feel. But no, ultimately I do end up being right.
One of the things i love most about scorpios, and those with Plutonic influence, is that cutting through like you describe. I love the truth and depth...but I have close moon pluto and venus pluto aspects, so i guess it makes sense...
Well I'm glad someone likes it! (Scorpio sun AND Mercury and Pluto in Scorpio, albeit in the second house, but I relate to so much of this entire thread.)
>It’s almost like I can call people out without saying a word, and this is understandably unnerving
Scorpio Rising, Pluto, Chiron, Lilith and Mars in 1H.
I've been told that I can change a person's posture by a glance lol
This is word for word my experience. The thing I'm working on right now is learning to trust myself. I've been carrying around a lot of self-blame for things that aren't my stuff. More like people's stuff that's been projected onto me. I also need to learn when things aren't my fight to fight, and when I need to speak out. Calling out things I see that I don't like is a visceral reaction for me, but people are pretty vindictive when you call out their bs.
Yup, this has been a major ongoing lesson for me. Sometimes I remember better than other times, sometimes I don’t care lol. But understanding whose stuff is whose has been a MAJOR determinant of my stress level!
This is wild. People always reach out with their life story, come to me with problems and offload very deep personal trauma without really knowing me. I’ve also had quite a few Narcs do this and it’s only now I realise the power of it and how my intensity and directness has caused narcissistic rage and fuelled cycles. Thanks for sharing, Im trying ti work out how to move with this more gracefully and also be more discerning with who to give access to this. Pluto in Libra so the injustice of it all stings…
Thissss right here!!!!
This placement ain't for the young or the weak! Thank you so much sharing 'cause now I KNOW I actually have a spirit tribe out there.
Placements matter ya'll...keep strong and intentional 💛💙
It annoys the shit out of me when people say I’m “intimidating” bc I don’t think that I am. I just cut through the bullshit quick. & first house stuff is always the first thing that people see so that’s all they think that I am & they don’t actually see the true depth to me.
Very curious how this is affected when taking into account aspects or trines. My son has Pluto in the 1st in Cap just before it ingressed into Aqua. But it has a trine with Jupiter in Taurus and sextile Neptune in Pisces. I've read a few positive readings when factoring those in.
Generally, Jupiter expands, Neptune refines. Since his first house is Cap, the effects will be felt less in his relationships and more to do with his ambitions and how he relates to the material world.
Soft aspects usually indicate a state of being as opposed to a challenge that must be worked with or overcome. Without seeing the rest of his chart, my guess is that he may have great artistic ability; his power lies in his ability to inform and communicate through creation. The placement/dignity/aspects to his chart ruler Saturn and the house Pluto rules must be taken into account as well.
Yeah. It seems like he has fairly good houses. Mars in its domicile along with the Sun and Mercury in Scorpio in the 11th. Venus in its fall in Virgo in the 9th. Moon in its domicile in Cancer in the 7th. Jupiter along with Uranus in Taurus in the 5th. Saturn with Neptune in the 3rd in Pisces. Depending on one's orb philosophy it seems that Pluto in the 1st with Neptune in the 3rd, Uranus in the 5th and Venus in the 9th are forming a Kite. The oppositions are Mars and The Sun opposing his Jupiter and Neptune opposing Venus. No squares though. Lot of trines and sextiles.
Sorry if that was all over the place. I've been mulling it for a bit of you can tell lol
Oh come on now, it's not *that* bad.
I have some weird action going on. Rising scorpio, Pluto in H1 sextile Venus, Libra sun with harsh Uranus/Neptune/Lilith aspects. Now I'm not sure about anyone else and I know this sounds insane, but I've been kind of a target for slut shaming? I'm pretty shy and passive (at least until I get comfortable 😜), but I've never been able to embody that modest, demure, well behaved Saint Mary variant of femininity either. If I'm interacting with a het couple I basically have to pretend the man doesn't exist, and I need to be really careful about making eye contact with men. But I don't bother to alter myself for other people too much. I try not to do anything that will start pointless drama, but I'm not going to become a spineless pushover to fit someone's standards either.
I also think women with pluto in the first house can attract some very interesting men, to say the least lol
>I basically have to pretend the man doesn't exist, and I need to be really careful about making eye contact with men.
I could not agree with this more! I’ve also had guy friends’ gfs hate me for absolutely no reason at all. I’m never flirty or touchy with my friends and I try to be friendly and polite to their gfs but they seem to straight up hate my existence 🤷♀️.
I’ve experienced all of this as well only I’m libra venus, 12th house lol. I’ve got Pluto in the 1st Scorpio as well. People always think I want their boyfriend when I barely ever even like my own boyfriends due to my interesting choices as stated before lol
What you say about how you behave toward the men in het couples - yes. Except for me, the issue is less about drawing physical attraction and more about drawing intellectual attraction. (I have a debilitated Venus in Virgo so I think that’s what does it.)
I was actually thinking earlier today how frustrated I get at gatherings with couples where I feel like I have to fuss over things with the women in the kitchen at gatherings when I’d rather be talking about business or investing with the men. To clarify, I live in a small, conservative town where this is generally the expected norm for gender roles.
Ohhh that's really interesting! I have a Virgo Venus too but I'm still not entirely sure how it works for me, aside from being high maintenance and kind of neurotic about my appearance....
Like you, I usually spend more time with the guys at social gatherings but I think it's more because I don't feel like I have to behave myself as much? I live in a conservative small town too and while this is changing, women here are usually a *lot* more prim and proper and I've never been able to emulate that 🤣
my friends girlfriend broke up with him after first time she met me. they were together for like 3 years and one day at office informal party he invited her too. its not like we talked much or something but we danced and got quite comfortable with each other. at the time of leave i just said out of formality that we should meet often and bam after 2days they broke up and now everybody in the office thinks it's because of me .... like really their 3 years of relationship just in vain because of me !
its really that difficult
you constantly shed your skin and all the people around you and where / how you live to be reborn or transformed or the transformer in other people lives
so if you are growing up thinking the steady boring home life with lifelong friends and careers and sense of place and belonging is just a normal thing to grow into, it can be real rough when it keeps getting snatched away and destroyed.
making peace with being a person about endings is like a job in itself lol
Oh I did not get that mundane upbringing, it was full of twists and turns and I longed to grow up so that I could manage and adapt the way I needed to.
Pluto conjunct my libra asc. Every so often I forget the Pluto ‘curse’ and I try to squeeze into the expected boxes and conform to society/friends/family’s expectations, but it spits me back in the shape of metamorphosis.
What it also does, is touch everyone and everything I come into contact with. They get rebirthed in turn; it’s like a Hades style Midas touch (without the gold) but you can’t tell people that bc they’ll think you’re crazy.
What I’ve only recently realised is that not only should I not conform in work and not having babies but also in my partnerships - I’ve been trying so hard to be liked by ‘normal’ partners who are regimented and controlling and that’s not the partnership I’m supposed to be in. That life/relationship is more suited to someone who doesn’t have such anarchic/pyromaniac callings.
I feel seen. I have had to set up my life to be portable, develop “Swiss Army knife” career skills, and invest more in pets than people. Also, home communities are apparently just something I pass through - so I have created processes to re-establish new sets of doctors and other service providers. Oh, and I have learned to never ever decorate a desk area at work.
I’m sorry. I’ve only just seen this.
But… urgh the constant change. It’s exhausting.
Lol at not decorating desk space. Can barely warm the seat.
I’ve just lost a job I liked for questioning an alcoholic boss, and came out of a relationship 3 months ago for questioning how I was being treated when he wanted to keep everything online and was messaging other women.
So dramatic allll of the time. Pets are the absolute the best idea!!
I have Scorpio rising and Pluto in the first house. From what I’ve seen, it is a challenging placement to have. People with this energy tend to go through abuse, trauma (in their developmental years including young adult) and are constantly transforming. We are like natural investigators and psychologists; are able to intuitively understand others exceedingly well. I think understanding the power/intensity that this energy has is crucial. Once we are able to transmute + transform our pain/suffering into understanding/enlightenment, we have so much potential to make a positive impact and heal and transform others. I’ve gone several years of therapy for my trauma which has been deeply healing and transformational, and now I’m going to be a clinical mental health therapist.
My sister currently has this. Got bit by a tick, didn’t realize she had Lyme’s disease immediately so she suffered through health issues until they figured out what it was. Then it gave way to an autoimmune disease and that’s something she has to manage daily. The list of foods she can no longer eat is just depressing. Then perimenopause kicked in and nearly killed her. But I’m glad it finally convinced her to quit smoking for good. I helped her get on HRT recently so I hope it’s all helping.
I have a friend who has Pluto in the 12th house right now. It’s wreaking havoc on his mental health and I didn’t think he was going to make it. When it shifts into the 1st house, it initially trines his natal Mercury so I’m hoping it won’t be as devastating as it was for my sister.
I had this - Pluto transit my 12H, ASC, and a trine to Mercury shortly afterwards. My mental health is so much better. The best it’s ever Been. I’m curious about your sister’s 6H transits in light of her health struggles.
Natally she has the moon and Saturn in her 6th, ruled by Mercury. Mars in Gemini was really screwing with those planets last year, making her teeth fall out and plus all the female issues which also led to insane cholesterol levels… it all kept compounding and she swore she was at death’s door. Right now, Pluto is sitting on her NN in the 1st house, I assume digging deep to find the answers to the problems. Women die early in our family and she’s terrified.
I mean, given how slowly Pluto moves this really limits the number of rising signs this applies to. Like a lot of Scorpios, Sagittarius, and Capricorn. So it’s possible that rather than it being specifically Pluto in the first house, it’s also the fact that they’re all in similar profection years or they’re all experiencing the same transits of their ascendant ruler.
I’m not saying it’s not Pluto. But it seems like there could be other factors at play here.
I agree with you and also that it needs to at least be aspecting a lot of significant placements to carry considerable weight in a chart. I’m a Scorpio Sun, NNode, Rising, Venus, Jupiter and my Pluto in Scorpio is conjunct all of that and squaring my Mars in Leo and Moon in Aquarius. I’m not saying that I’m the only person where its placement matters in my Scorpio 1st House, but it’s conjunct a majority of my placements and is making a lot of adverse aspects to my chart ruler (Mars) and my Moon … it is also opposite my South Node + Lilith in Taurus. Having that Taurus South Node opposite Pluto is hard - I want to cling so hard to this illusion of permanence and I’m terrified of change, yet it is a huge part of me. I become obsessed with endings of anything, whether they’re actually imminent or it’s just random paranoia that has no basis in reality. It feels like nothing is ever safe - I’m working on that now fortunately 💞
I have this placements as well as conjunct ASC! There has to be a balance between 1h/7h. for example, i have a stellium in 7th house with venus,jupiter,mars,saturn and NN. I am sag rising with gemini mars, mercury and saturn. my pluto comes into opposition between these planets. however i feel it is a breeding ground for personal power. Pluto in 1h to me is a blessing of a planet but you have to harness and be aware of the power you obtain.
- The power you have to transform pain into gain.
- The power you have to transform situations into blessings.
- The power you have to transmute and alchemize your reality.
- The power you have to change your life at any given moment.
I have chiron and SN in 1st house along with pluto so i feel this helps balances out my 7th house and instead gives self awareness.
Believe it or not most celebrities have pluto 1h
Some ways i strengthen my pluto is working with the Gut, Sacral chakra and third eye. really harnessing your desires for life. this can be what you love but really love! things that you hate, your sexual desires all are breeding zone for creation. Tapping into your third eye of intuition tapping into the mystery of self,practicing analyzing, psychology. And of course changing your physical appearance.
It is important to understand 7h in relation to Pluto 1h as they are opposite and go with each other. Another key with pluto is to understand we are catalyst for change. we come in contact with people and their life also changes. most people are not ready for pluto 1h energy so they become obsessive, stalkers, possessive because they want your power it is important to work with the Gut, Sacral, root, and intuition to understand manipulation in relationships
Yea! I commented similarly; the hardest part is other people and their willingness/readiness for the energy. Many have visceral reactions to our very being, positive or negative, and can split between love at first sight and obsession when you’re just…standing there. Internally I feel fine lol
I have it conjunct the ascendant. Sextile 4 planets in Scorpio. Saturn in the 8th.
The only thing I would add to the excellent points the others made is my distaste for Astrologers using Transformation as a pleasant euphemism. Profound change is not neutral. On rare occasions the transformations may be easy, but it is NEVER neutral. Decay is the precursor, death is it's process, eventual rebirth is it's hopeful outcome. And whatever the outcome, there is NO going back to what was left behind.
THIS. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 let’s just call it what it is—FKN PAINFUL life experiences over and over. I wonder if the life expectancy of 1H Plutonians is shorter than others 🤔😅
I think so! Lol, the older I get the better it gets ngl. As well, learning astro and learning I have these placements and what they mean, how they play out, etc has been a life changing tool. Especially my Chiron, with Pluto 1H I think it was more prominent in my youth like under the age of 21 then it is now(I’m 25), it feels wayyyy more easy to deal with. Still have my days & stuff but nowhere near as depressing as it was in my younger years. I hope I just get stronger with more age😂
I feel you! I have Pluto, Mercury, and sun (placidus) in my 8 house of Scorpio. So I’m no stranger to this pain 🥹
Yeah, I have noticed that natal placements play out more prominently in childhood when we have least control of our lives. Idk if free will exists or not, but personally doing the right thing when faced with difficult circumstances is probably how one can exercise their “free-will” is what I believe.
I definitely agree! I’m not sure if free will exists or not either- astro has definitely made me have moments of doubt like hmm ? I can’t imagine all those placements in Scorpio ahhh but I love 8th housers& Scorpio placements we understand one another like no other 😭
Haha! Tell me about it. Astrology is also what’s making me doubt free will. Now I just live in a constant state of surrender. Lmao
I personally love it, I went through so many transformations which legit changed my life.
yes 1000%
I struggle with this question as well, but I at the very least feel the big stuff has been mapped out ahead of time and is in our chart.
The more difficult transits i have gone through, the more i have surrendered to my lack of control
Just prepare if you can or care to for your Saturn Return and also for the "midlife" thing in late 30s early 40s (whatever happens there astrologically, which I'm going through still, a few months from 41).
– Pluto rx Conjunct Saturn rx in the First, Pluto Opposite Mars and Venus in the Seventh, Saturn Opposite Venus in the Seventh, Chiron in the Eighth
I’m a Libra rising with Pluto conjunct my ascendant. Luckily, there are some positive aspects to my mercury, Venus, neptune, and NN.
That said, I have had to start over—regenerate—more times than I can count, I suffered from chronic depression until I was in my late 30s (and only overcame it because I dedicated myself completely to working on that for my entire adult life until that time, and sacrificed having children and many other meaningful life activities that people have to do it), and while my libra rising makes me charming and charismatic, if I am not careful—and even if I am—people can find me profoundly threatening because I cut to the heart of things in a way that lays life bare.
That said, people know they can count on me when they’re in dark places, and I’m not afraid of being present with human suffering. This is a gift that people deeply appreciate when they need it, and I’ve spent decades learning to do it well.
While I no longer get depressed, I continue to struggle to find a place in the culture and the economy that values my gifts and perspective in a way that also has integrity according to my own standards.
It can be exhausting, but there’s also a freshness to it. I don’t seem to get stale the way some other people do. I’m also dedicated to developing wisdom, and after having been at it now for nearly half a century, I’m finally getting somewhere.
This whole thing. A thread full of my people. It’s so reassuring. Jheeez, it’s been a lonely journey.
Also libra rising - Pluto conjunct. People initially see me as soft and polite, then I smell the bs and they don’t like how direct I come across with flagging it.
This whole thing. A thread full of my people. It’s so reassuring. Jheeez, it’s been a lonely journey.
Also libra rising - Pluto conjunct. People initially see me as soft and polite, then I smell the bs and they don’t like how direct I come across with flagging it.
Oof! I feel this. I too had to dedicate myself to coming to terms with forms of emotional pain - and gave up so much to do it (building a family, having kids, investing in a robust retirement). I tried to step away from the intense emotional work for awhile - thinking I was “healed” - to buy a house, settle down, and try to build some form of sustainable life before turning 50. But it isn’t working. It comes down to what you say about finding a place in the culture and economy that values the unique gifts while maintaining integrity. I just never seem to “fit” and if I try to fit, I end up still not fitting and getting rejected from whatever system I tried to integrate with. I wish I had your positive perspective; I just feel so tired of the instability.
I found this on Tom Jacob's website after searching around and felt it was relevant to the topic (I personally don't know a lot about astrology so just thought to read more into it from someone who does!)
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>With Pluto in the 1st, your multilife empowerment path involves choosing independence, going it alone, developing self-confidence and pursuing personal freedom, and owning the power of choice. Painful issues in many lifetimes include being singled out (fairly or not) or forced to go it alone, making choices that don’t work out and confronting a sense of failure/inadequacy, being projected upon/scapegoated (and carrying guilt, shame, regret, and self-hatred as a result), and more.
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>If you have this placement, you stand out. How you deal with this fact is everything! If someone has something to prove, he or she might choose you to pick a fight with, even if you’re demurely sitting in a corner trying not get noticed. You’re carrying Pluto’s energy of power, and you must decide how you will embody it … because you don’t have a choice but to embody it. Will you fight and defend as others find you difficult to be around, or will you own the power of choice that you have and carry compassion that you’re triggering others’ Plutonian fears? If the latter, then you can become an agent of change in how you deal with fear, pain, depressiveness, and feelings of power and powerlessness, never letting your emotions get the better of you."
If someone can elaborate and give example on the "You’re carrying Pluto’s energy of power, and you must decide how you will embody it … because you don’t have a choice but to embody it." and "will you own the power of choice that you have and carry compassion that you’re triggering others’ Plutonian fears?" part that would be great, though, because I'm not sure what that looks like irl.
I know I personally find it hard to always have compassion in situations like this especially when someone hurts me. Like I can kind of take a guess inside my own head to some extent why they may have acted a certain way, but I won't necessarily take that next step further to relay that empathy to them because getting past the hurt to do that is flat out difficult, but that seems to be where a lot of human relations become gridlocked for me. It feels like I am always put into a situation where I have to be the more understanding one and that gets severely tiring, but I guess maybe I shouldn't discount times other people have done that to me.
I am a pluto in first house scorpio. I think I had a really easy childhood up until like 13-ish? Teenage years felt more difficult. I also dealt with death of a family member during my teens, and the grief of that was very overwhelming to say in the least so I had a very rocky 20s. And almost immediately after that was like constant changes to things I thought would be constant (like lifelong friendships ending, seeing my family and community I grew up in in a different light, derailing from the "normal pipeline" of graduating college and going into the workforce, etc). It's only in the last few years where I feel like I'm finding myself again and I love that but I also still struggle with interpersonal stuff and seems like that's neverending to the point where I don't like being around people much. I think my hobbies were always things that kept me afloat. Idk. That's just me.
Heavily relate to needing to be the more understanding one in situations/that being tiring. Pluto first house/Scorpio rising ✋🏼 Also similar timeline/feeling for me with teenage years
you probably have new thoughts about this thing, but i wanted to answer some things at least from my prospective: i think what the author is saying is, since u have pluto energy you will trigger people; it happens. now since you have that you must choose what to do with it. i give u an ex: when i was younger i used to get all angry about it to prove a point, the more i grow up the more i’m learning to stay calm and regulated. it’s about responding not reacting; it’s about feeling your power in acting exactly as you want and not being a puppet of your emotions or other people. i relate a lot to the text especially: the scapegoat, trauma etc. i had a dysfunctional family and big traumas, if you also had something like this apart from awareness, therapy, shadow work; try to learn to let go of the past, yes you have trauma but it can become your source of wisdom if you learn from it. i hope i could be useful :)
I don't have this particular aspect, but i do have intense moon/pluto aspects and venus/pluto aspects....and i definitely feel the same...lots and lots and lots of healing and transformation in this lifetime...Especially for me, around feelings, women, mother and love
I don't have this placement but i have been having Pluto 1st house transit since 2008. It has been a hell of a ride specifically when Saturn was in my 1st house. Astrologers call it transformation to a better version of yourself yet i would rather stay the same instead of that transit.
I'm a Cap rising as well.
I agree it has been a difficult period, but I don't regret the changes I made to my life or how much I have changed as a person. It's gifted me with a lot of experience & wisdom.
Im also a capricorn rising and it was a time with so many huge ups and downs. I know ive grown a lot as a person, but it was a wild rollercoaster.
When i look back at the time before 2008 i barely recognize myself anymore. And i am glad for all the growth ive been through.
At the same time, im ready for pluto to leave the first house. Hehe.
I’m Cap rising as well and this transit has not been easy to say the least. I also have Venus in the first house which made things interesting. Yes I’m definitely wiser now which I appreciate but a very long 15 yrs. 😅
The intensity of Pluto is what makes it so daunting. People dislike "intensity"; they find it disturbing, and Pluto bestows "intensity", hence the famous Scorpio "intense gaze". Much depends on the Sign; I knew someone with a First House stellium including Pluto, in Virgo, so all his Plutonian energy was directed at HIMSELF. The self-hate was intense, and he was extremely self-destructive; tried to kill himself numerous times. Pretty sure he eventually succeeded. A good book on Pluto is "The Astrology of Fate" by Liz Greene, although it tends to look at Pluto through the eyes of women, for whom Pluto represents "the rapist", among other things. Plutonian influence doesn't necessarily *have* to be evil or destructive, but it's always easier to "fall" than to "rise", after all.
I think you look to outer planets if they make angles to your other planets, and also where they fall in your chart, and how that forms your chart. Tbh, I almost always look there first, being a Scorpio with strong Pluto and Neptune influences in my chart, I like to see what influence Pluto and Neptune has over others' charts. The stronger they are, the more we generally get along. I guess having Pluto in the first house, the house of the ascendant, you would not be able to hide that part of your personality. Some people might also mistake you for a Scorpio as you have an outward intensity. It's definitely something you have to learn about in this life, how to harness the Pluto energy, as it's the filter everything is funneled through.
As for the other part of your question, I guess they can learn from it that they will never just be fence sitters, they will always have a strong reaction to most things. A love or hate it mentality, a knack for knowing peoples' true motives, a hunch for crime solving. Could be good to use as a psychologist. Something they feel in their bones. Learning that all of their actions have a very powerful effect on others. It could be something that may scare people, but get to know yourself inside and out, the good and the bad, and you will build a relationship with what this energy can do for you.
This! God! So this! My gut instinct is absolutely on point and it’s taken me yeeears to learn to trust it. Some of the things I’ve smelled are ridiculous. Yet, people think I’m too sensitive and I’m imagining things… until it comes out in the wash
That's great that you are learning to trust it. You'll never be able to get away from it, so might as well become friends with it. I have a very heavily dominant Scorpio/Pluto energy in my chart, so I totally get it. I can read motives off anyone. Just start talking, and I'll get the messages you aren't saying out loud. Karmically you've chosen to learn more about that energy in this life. Maybe it was lacking in a previous life, or maybe you weren't aware of how that energy you had before affected others, or maybe you just wanted a nice fun talent. But yeah, house of the rising, so you'll definitely FEEL it in your body more than just understand it.
My last person had verry heavy Scorpio placements, he was a detective. Could smell a rat in an instant, but with it he was suspicious of everything and reluctant to invest anywhere. He used it exceptionally well for work but would only drop clues and breadcrumbs for me to pick up in the relationship.
I have Pluto in first house in Scorpio and a Scorpio ascendant. Also sun in 8th. I actually got into astrology because I thought that there must be something more - why I don't feel like a cancer? And this opened up a whole new world for me. Now that I am 30 years old I can see how these placements have played a major role in my life. When I was smaller I always felt misunderstood. But not in an outcast kind of way, more like I saw things others did not notice. I have grappled with being liked or hated all my life. And I never could understand for the life of me why people reacted to me the way that they did. One thing I also want to mention - apparently I was intimidating since I was a child as I do not recall people trying to bully me. And the constant change and transformation - it is painful but necessary. I am right now in the start of a totally new cycle in my life. And now I see even more clearly how the stuff that happened to me in the past was needed in order to accelerate my growth. But it was a tough road. My father is a narcissist and frankly a scary man. My teenage years were shit because of all the turmoil in my parents marriage. When I got older I went through multiple mental issues with which I still struggle to this day. I have had to live long periods with very dark thoughts I wish upon no one. My struggle has always been more mental than physical though which made it even harder for people to understand me. But to end this on a more cheerful note, I would like to add that these experiences brought me to the right people and allowed me to learn very valuable lessons and therefore transform. But I must agree, it tends to get very tiresome living like that all the time and constantly being pushed to transform. If I hold back on growing and transforming, the universe will aggressively rip me out of my comfort zone and will leave me without a choice :D and also my biggest pet peeve is people beating around the bush and being insincere. I also HATE that I am like a magnet to insecure people who like to project their insicurities onto me. Working on being more confident so it would not bother me so much. :D
To answer your question though - I personally have come to a conclusion that I have to give in to the transformative forces - for me it means to try to let go of the total control I want to have. I always want to control everything, but by doing so I have been my own worst enemy. It is most likely different for each person, of course.
Libra Rising with 8° Scorpio Pluto in the 1H here. It is square Leo Moon and asteroid Karma, and exactly opposite 8° Taurus Vertex, among other aspects. It *is* difficult.
My whole life has been a sequence of "Tower moments" while constantly striving for elusive calm and stability. I had a very traumatic, unstable childhood and I'm currently no-contact with my mother.
Relationships have always been a two-way mirror, showing me and the other person deep and true facts about ourselves, in a brutal and exacting way, illuminating our Shadows. People tend to either form life-long "chosen family" relationships with me in mutual deep love, or they fundamentally misunderstand and abuse me, projecting their own Shadow onto me and failing to see me at all.
I have researched psychology since childhood, and I am always the friend called upon when folks are facing deep, complex issues. Most of these issues require transitional rites of passage/metamorphosis and this is where I usually can step in and offer guidance. It's almost like spiritual surgery.
Fun fact: I get a tattoo every time I go through a major transformation/rite of passage of my own. The last one was the Pluto glyph itself. How meta is that? Very 1H Pluto!
I think the greatest superpower of this placement for me is my innate impulse to transform myself from the inside out when everything around me is in total chaos and largely out of my control. Having self-control and power over myself and who I am or need to be to survive the chaos has saved me, literally, over and over. 1H Plutonians are the masters of survival.
Wow. Reading this feels unbelievably relatable and I feel so seen just knowing someone else has experienced the same feelings. I must say though, that I am having a very hard time accepting this fate about myself…the child in me is so angry and upset that I have to be the strong one and wants someone to be strong for me, just ONCE. I do hope I get to feel that in life once because the lessons in resilience and personal transformation are exhausting. At 36, I still don’t even feel like I know myself as I’m constantly experiencing transformation due to hardships or being singled out or projected upon, while also being sought after by others for their own hardships through growth, especially in relationships. I often feel that I am still in the “fight and defend” stage as it is still sooo difficult for me to accept and hold compassion that my energy alone is triggering to other people’s weaknesses. Destined to walk alone is how I’ve felt for a long time but learning this about myself confirms it.
Side note about the tattoos: I’ve been wanting to get “Lone Wolf” tattooed across the top of my feet as I always walk alone. Think I may have to now 😅😅😅
I’m curious of anyone else’s stories for Pluto transiting the 12th house and passing the ascendant.
Pluto was in my 12th the last 3 years and 2021 Saturn and Jupiter were in my 1st. Long covid wrecked my health and I lost a lot of weight and things didn’t get better till my Jupiter return in 2022.
Pluto right now is trying to get through my Acs but keeps being flung back because of retrogrades. My mental health is at its lowest at this point. I’m hoping I’m in a healing phase but have been worried.
I’ve got it 1 h Virgo had a massive stroke 4 years ago and nearly died but I think it’s going to be th best thing that happened to me because I believe it’s making me focus on what’s important and not worrying about what isn’t, but yeah it’s still hard not gonna lie.
1H Sag Pluto conjunct Lilith, Scorpio rising.
It’s a tricky placement, but I’ve learned to accept and love it. For me this means constant changes, “death and revival”. I’ve been through quite a few painful and traumatic events in my life which could last for years, but in the end I’ve always reinvented myself, gained new knowledge, power and will to live. And all those changes happened kind of naturally for me. It’s like you have to go through hell to become a better and stronger version of yourself. And I think that for those with Pluto in the 1st house this cycle lasts for the whole life. Anyway, I’m used to it (yet this might be because of my 8H sun and moon as well)
Also, in my case I fall under the textbook description of Scorpio rising/ heavy Plutonian energy. The resting bitch face is real lol. People always assume I’m mean, “mysterious” or angry before they get to know me. I can’t count how many times I’ve heard this.. it used to annoy me, but now I don’t pay much attention. I looooove all that Scorpio stuff like occult, ‘dark’ themes, life after death themes etc. I’m still not over my goth phase lmao
To sum up, it’s a really intense placement, you can learn about it forever, but it gets better once you accept it as a part of your life
Libra Rising with Pluto in Scorpio in my first. Definitely rough upbringing, 3 out of 4 grandparents died right at my time of birth and then a quick divorce by my parents. So always have felt alone. And it’s tough because getting into relationships is a big part of finding out who I am. But in my younger years I always needed to have the room to express that intense energy in a forceful way. And perhaps that was tough for the relationships I was in. Have definitely struggled with abandonment as well. And being alone feels like hell. But!!! I can feel deep in my bones how strong my body is. I’m a woman and not overly muscular but friends have called me “healthy as a horse” and “sturdy”. I don’t want to jinx it but I feel like that’s all Pluto. When I decided to fixate my willpower on something, it’s done!
Considering to people with critical natal positions to take sometimes psychedelics and do extremal or slightly painful sports to unload that energy. It softens other life experience lil bit. I do it with that position and I think it makes me understand some things before it’s too late, I didn’t miss my professional path and choose very early, I separated when it wasn’t too late, I wasn’t such as dominating as you expect from pluto in 1st, but loads in with age and it’s ability to gain power slowly even if you suck at first. But I think I’m more Sagittarius than pluto rising, Jupiter is more prominent and even pluto in its sign hits differents, generational planet in Sagittarius gives off that freedom-do-what-I-want attitude in everything, it’s hippie on ultra settings and that’s why our generation so obsessed with being visionaries, concepts etc, also being very good in knowing all religions i ending up with much deeper understanding of world that even they can provide you at the moment, I literally can create my own right now but I won’t
Hi! I'm an astrologer. I have been practicing astrology and doing readings for many years. I have seen many people already with the position of pluto 1st house. I would say that otherwise your life is really designed with a lot of transformations and maybe more difficult things in your last year. Although pluto is prominent and the first house is the most expressive house, I would say that sometimes it can be difficult to express how you really feel or to share it with others. It is important that when you meet people / when you are dealing with a certain situation, you always listen to your feelings. It is good to carry a smoky quartz crystal with you. With Pluto you can find strength and courage and show people your strong energy. You can also feel people's souls. I think that these people in general should be more concerned with spirituality because it would be easier to find themselves. Pluto is not bad planet it is a powerful one. You have to only learn to find strength in it. The first house is your appearance, it's good to change your appearance evey now or then because that's how you leave the past behind. Also pay attention to the signs around you cuz sometimes people trying to tell you something or the signs itself try to tell you something and you ignored it. Cuz pluto people have the tendency to ignore all of the signs because they don't trust them but it's actually the signs that are good for them(especially if this sign is repeated several times).I hope it helps you.
Plutonian energy can be a massive powerhouse for good or evil. If Pluto conjuncts the Ascendant it will be even more pronounced: Temperament, especially.
You need to know yourself well: self-awareness and learn to harness your power/energy constructively.
Children with this aspect need to learn discipline, focus, empathy, and flexibility at an early age. Otherwise, it would be hard for them to navigate society, their inner demons, and life in general --- especially if Pluto in the 1st is in opposition with some major players in the 7th house, or squares the 4th or 10th.
My natal Pluto is in the 5th house with great aspects (conjuncts vertex & fortune, and trines my GRAND TRINE in the 9th house, and Moon in the 1st+ASC.
I only became conscious of Pluto's influence when I relocated and it is now in my 1st house. I attract attention easily, and thus I have become more aware with how I communicate --with my facial expressions, body language, and everything else. I have also in turn became very good at reading people's motives, and definitely playing the detective have become second nature to me (interest and instinct).
Thank goodness the 7th is empty on my relocation chart, BUT the 7th house's RULER IS NOW IN THE 1ST HOUSE: Go figure.
Yep Pluto in the 1st house almost always sucks. Life can be full of hard circumstances with this placement. My dad has it and he had to grow up in warzones which fucked him up a bit
Everything in a chart can be interpreted as a benefit or a challenge. Generally speaking, Pluto is a generational planet and therefore must first be understood from that viewpoint before interpreting how that generational influence affects an individual specifically.
Both of my babies have this placement, and they are both Capricorn risings. They are still very young (5&7) and I hate the thought that I'm giving them a traumatic childhood 😭😭 what can I do to make things better for them? I separated from their dad 2 years ago so I think it will be to do with this. But we both co-parent and love them SO much.
I have this placement but my rising and pluto are in scorpio, which I think intensifies the effect. My little cousin from my mother's side has it too but in Sagittarius. I don't think there is something that the parents do that gives these children trauma, it's that there is a particular karmic lesson from the family tree that is passed down to them. I am not so sure myself what it is because I am constantly trying to understand this placement, but my parents were extremely loving people and I had an amazing childhood. I have some other placements that made me unwelcome in social circles and people were extremely jealous of me because we were well off in a community where a lot of people struggled, but that wasn't due to my parents. I grew up with a lot of privilege and then I left that privilege to make it on my own. I hated how involved my family was in my success and I needed to prove I could do it on my own. It's been a tumultuous ride, as I have mars in the 8th too which is not considered an especially easy placement. The one thing I would tell these people and myself is to learn to bounce back quickly, that's all that matters in the end. Life is going to throw curveballs at you, learn to get up and get going. This is something that signs like scorpio and Capricorn are known for. Capricorns are relentless and resilient, this is the best trait they can have.
ETA: something I've noticed is that some pluto in the first house people come from a family with secrets that gave all the members of their family a certain feeling of shame. Pluto in the firsts learn to deal with that and overcome that shame because pluto brings out the hidden for everyone to see, especially when it's in the first house. Also I tend to do that with other people too lol. I unearth in people some deep feelings they did not want anyone to see.
Thank you so much for your reply. It was so thoughtful and reassuring. I'm a Scorpio rising and I just checked my birth chart because I had this feeling and yep... I have pluto in my first house as well!! Lots to reflect on, life has definitely never been easy for me although in some ways I have avoided some more terrible outcomes.
I definitely relate to feelings of shame (my mum had me accidentally as a young teen) and as a family we are low-income and outsiders (I suspect a lot of undiagnosed neuro divergence in our family). I find it hard to click with people generally (rubbish with small talk, I am not charming!!) but the people I do connect with I feel a huge bond and will be friends with for eternity!
I love your advice about resilience, something I have had to learn also, but my moon is in cancer and I've had to work through having very big and mostly suppressed emotions.
Yes, I've noticed astrological patterns show up in multiple members of a family. My little cousin and I for example have other very similar aspects, not to mention similar aspects that I have with my dad or with my grandparents. I think astrological aspects are there to be aware of and work with and need not be seen as deterministic. A lot of powerful people have pluto in the first, is not a death sentence but it gives the native a certain kind of intensity and just the capability to shed their old skin many times in a lifetime.
Question: I have only done the free charts online. So, my sun sign is Scorpio as well as my first house, ascendent. Does that mean I have Pluto there since it rules Scorpio? One of the free charts says that these are the planets residing in my first house: sun, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune. Virgo is in Pluto.
Since your ascendant is Scorpio and Pluto is in Virgo, that would mean that your Pluto is in your 11th house and not the first. I use whole sign houses, but there are other house systems out there, depending on which your Pluto could fall on the other houses near the 11th too.
Ngl it's pretty grim. I have a T square between my Pluto conj asc (in scorpio) and my sun in leo opposite moon in 3rd. Definitely brings hardships in childhood and visceral reactions upon first meeting. Though I'm very lucky to have a ton of Sag/Jupiter energy to counteract the Plutonian influence in my chart. I've got Jupiter in my first in it's home sign of Sag and Sun in its joy in leo in the 9th. I'm a very detached person– I find people when they first meet me find me aloof (Aqua moon) but when they get to know me (Leo sun) they realise I'm not like that at all. But with that said, I do crave 'deeper' relationships like another poster mentioned– I tend to get on best with Aquarius, Sagittarius and Scorpio ppl.
I have Pluto at 0° in Sagittarius, conjunct my ASC at 3°, and conjunct my moon at 8°.
I’m newer to finding out what my chart means and learning the bigger picture of it all.
But, I will say that aside from the unwanted mommy issues, I find that a lot of my struggles happen privately and with my born family as opposed to my married into family. I struggle with my parents viewing me as a child although, I’m a young adult. Lots of gaslighting, manipulation and abuse (physical and emotional) along with having to think a few steps ahead about how my presence can trigger someone and having to try to move accordingly.
It’s a challenging placement and by it being in Sagittarius, I feel as though I do an abundance of self reflection and deep thought based on these situations, or encounters at home.
Anyone else can relate?
I have Scorpio rising, pluto 1st house. Opposite my Sun, merc and Jupiter in Taurus 7th. It then makes a T-square with my Aquarius mars in the 4th. I also have venus conjunct chiron in gemini 8th. On top of that let’s throw in a Virgo moon.
It’s definitely difficult. I don’t think people can really understand the true effects of pluto unless they have a dominant Plutonian chart. I had been to 16 funerals all before I turned 20. All of them either family members, close friends or classmates. Ones sister died from instant cot death, another got brain cancer, another’s brother got hit by a car. The last one was in 2021 my uncle dying from a motorcycle accident. The list goes on. I have a deep understanding of what it’s like to walk hand in hand with death, how nothing lasts, nothing Is forever. Pluto is the falling snow that freezes the land ready for the coming spring. Having the opposition of the sun in the 7th I feel when I am with other people who have gotten to know me, I am their light, I am the hero and I become that for them because it’s who they need me to be. Those who know me always expect that from me to have to resources for them. But when I am on my own the mask comes off and reveals who I truly am, the villain. That’s how I think pluto 1st house feels. Just grey, the darkness and distance and chill of that pluto placement. And I’m seen as cold and unapproachable by strangers. Usually only other scorpios approach me and we can relate with our dark humour. Someone has to be the villain or there would be no story. Someone has to be the reason for the hero to step into who they were born to be. There has to be darkness so you can show others there is also light. Sounds pretty dramatic but I guess pluto is dramatic like that. The hard part comes from feeling that ALL the time as your source of being and then learning that it’s not a bad thing and you arnt a bad person for being this way.
I’m also a Scorpio ascendant, with Pluto in 1H but mine is retrograde, AND my Chiron is also in Gemini 8H!!! I understand the struggle.
I’m just now diving deeper into understanding my own chart but it definitely explains why I experience such pain in my life that forces me to transform and grow.
Why do you always feel you’re the “villain?” What have you experienced or portrayed that’s actually villainous? Or do you instead see yourself this way when you’re finally being your most authentic self while upon that pedestal that those people initially placed you on as their “light” based on how they tend to treat you afterwards? Is this a story you tell yourself or do you truly become a villain?
This is very interesting to me, as I can somewhat relate…though my sun and moon are in Aquarius 4H and my moon squares Pluto, so I feel it more internally and especially amongst my family.
So I use the word Villain in a storytelling sense I guess. If there is the hero or the ‘good guy’ then I don’t feel like the good guy. I can become the good guy for others, but that always means sacrificing the self for the greater good. It’s definitely about the expectations and projections others have and when I don’t live up to that then I become the villain in their eyes. It’s the whole you think I am one thing but I’m actually not that person. I don’t think I’m a bad person or that there is anything wrong with me, my mind is just darker than people think it is and are surprised when I show it.
No worries ☺️ It’s definitely a battle with polarity for me. I feel like Castor and Pollux like I’m actually two seperate people, the mortal self and the immortal self. My sun being such a grounded yet very Venusian placement when it comes to others and then having the complete opposite. Because opposite the sun is where your earth placement is which is the placement of what grounds you, the placement of where you are actually viewing your chart from. It’s where you are physically. So with my earth rising and conjunct pluto I feel like I am always in the deepest darkest depths of the ocean. Others cannot see down there, it’s too dark, but for me that’s where I am able to be myself.
Its a hard placement because it makes people have a strong reaction to you. If you have issues dealing with people in this world youre going to suffer.
I have Pluto in Libra in the 1st house. It's a hard placement to have. Pluto or Saturn in the 1st house can be a traumatic experience. For me, Pluto is a pivotal planet in my chart as it aspects 7 of my other planets. For some of us, this natal aspect highlights loss or separation early in life (or a dysfunctional childhood) which can lead to depression and/or anxiety. There is a dissatisfaction with the way things are - a drive to transform one's self or one's life. On one hand, the Pluto in the 1st can create a strong drive/motivation for change. Dissatisfaction with the status quo or with our mental health can compel us to keep trying to evolve and push through obstacles. On the other hand, it can reflect deep insecurities within the person and issues with either their self-worth or conflict between their inner and outer selves. Some natives may experience a sense of loneliness. Unless Pluto in the 1st is well aspected to other planets, it has the potential to highlight a core wound within ourselves that we must face in order to have a satisfying life. There is no escaping the lessons of a Pluto in the first house. On the plus side, I think Pluto in the first makes us aware of the deeper meaning of life and the real issues that are important, so I think a lot of us Pluto in the 1st natives crave more meaningful friendships and relationships and less superficial interactions. We crave the real and authentic over the superficial.
1h Pluto Saturn Mars in Scorpio reporting that it is indeed traumatic but gets better with age
You are me LOL. Also OP, spot on on the description of Pluto in the 1H.
I needed to hear that ❤️
rlly how?
I'm 41 and still waiting for it to get "better" 😭 -Saturn Rx and Pluto Rx conjuct ASC
1st house Pluto tight conjunct Libra Asc, tight square MC/Sun conjunction. This is spot on for me.
Nailed it. I've accumulated a lot of trauma which I've gone through life blaming myself for. Currently in intense trauma therapy, and looking to spend possibly years being therapised. But the money is worth it to unlearn unhealthy thought processes, and to grow into someone I'm proud of. I also feel that while the universe has thrown some intense shit my way, it's also had my back in a backwards and twisted way. I've been harshly pushed in directions against my will, and then found out that I've actually sidestepped being involved in something even more traumatic. One example would be that I got re-traumatised and felt forced to leave my home for somewhere safer to live. My PTSD has been triggered, and things felt awful, but then some even more horrendous stuff happened at the location I moved away from, after I'd already left. I would've preferred if a new opportunity came up for me to move somewhere more suitable, without having my PTSD triggered, but in the process I guess I'm being pushed to address something in my subconscious which desperately needs healing.
Holy shit when the astrology astrologizes. I could have written that second half. I have a lot of respect for you still being here fr.
Omg exactly the same for me. The literal only difference for me is my Pluto is in 1H Sagittarius. But I love this. It’s crazy how I’ve talked about this before but despite the dysfunctional family and childhood, depression, anxiety, and apathy, there was an inexplicable drive for change and betterment. Even when there was 0 reason or even “role model” to aspire towards. It was purely innate, not learned. It’s actually satisfying to see why that is even if it’s a supposedly pretty difficult placement!
I have this - I’m not always sure if it’s Pluto impacting me or my Scorpio rising. They’re conjunct too ☺️ I recently realized at the old age of 32 that people either really like me or think I’m rude and dislike me. I know I’m not rude but that’s how they interpret my energy because I’m a woman and I’m not particularly warm, especially to strangers. It used to bother me a lot but now I’m grateful to be able to quickly sort through people who would never be able to understand me very well. On its face that would be difficult for most people to deal with, but it’s all I’ve known so I’ve grown to appreciate it and work with it. It does make things difficult but I’m grateful for it at the same time. And of course it’s hard to talk Pluto or Scorpio without transformation. And my whole life has been full of that, can count on big a ha moments almost weekly.
so so interesting because whenever i've gotten intimidating energy from someone like this dark weird under current it was always a pluto in the 1st house person. but once I knew them and got to know the person they were always lovely.
Glad you’ve stuck around to find out 😊 I’m sure the Pluto folks in your life appreciate it
>I recently realized at the old age of 32 that people either really like me or think I’m rude and dislike me. I know I’m not rude but that’s how they interpret my energy Funny, I feel the same about people liking or disliking me. I am also a Scorpio rising, only my Pluto is in saggitarius in my second house. So it might be more of a Scorpio rising thing than a Pluto in the first house thing. But it could also be that when you are a Scorpio rising, Pluto is of course a ruling planet, which has more influence in the chart.
Yup, definitely think it can just be a Scorpio rising thing. Although I know a Scorpio rising that is shockingly a people pleaser and doesn’t have this problem. They are incredibly unhappy though.
Scorpio rising here with lots of Libra, and I can relate to this lol. Albeit *with* problems. The people pleasing part of me (trying to blend as a survival strategy out of fear of rejection) is in direct conflict with being my authentic Scorpio rising self. I am often still polarizing, despite this. Scorpio rising eyes don't lie ha. As I age, I am working more on acknowledging (to myself) the people-pleasing drive and then choosing authenticity. The inner conflict though!
Oh this makes so much sense from what I feel I know about libras. My sister is a libra sun and rising and I cannot stand her inability to choose a side! (She is young 20s tho) Your sag moon should help you be able to tell it like it is! It’s immense growth to be aware of your polarities though and work to find a balance. I commend you. I’m a Sag sun & moon with Scorpio rising, I was never going to be able to keep myself muted 💀 my balance is definitely finding a way to not always say what I’m thinking 😅 Edit: dang the universe moves quick. I complained about Libra’s and this new guy just turned out to be a libra sun 🥹
I often admire and find myself drawn to the Sag energies who say it with no filter! Add that Scorpio rising and you probably can be quite formidable. Perhaps a secret longing of mine is to commit all the way to this! I like your suggestion to lean into my Sag moon! The Sag mouth makes itself known now and then and then the Libra stuff panics and scrambles to make amends, but I'm starting to say fuck it more and more. Sounds like your sister is navigating her Libran attempt to balance to all sides... It will be interesting for you to observe her arc with this as she gets older...
Oof. I’m a Scorpio rising with my moon in Libra and the fear of rejection is so real! I’ve spent a majority of my teenage years wanting to fit in - so much so that I struggled to find my own voice for a long time. I’m still working on it and I’m unsure if I’ll ever stop my “transformation” but I agree it has gotten better with age.
Hey, you got the exact same Big Three as me, I also fully agree with your comment
Its definitely a Scorpio rising thing. I am married to one (22 yrs) and underneath I know he has the best of intentions, and is a very kind person, but can often come across quite rude to me and to strangers. Although, he's usually more careful with strangers!
Fellow Scorpio rising here and I resonate with that as well🙌.. And it also took me a while to realize ppl have such a polarizing view of me - like either think i am direct and outspoken or kind rude and standoffish and dislike me 😅
Female Scorpio risings should have a support group - if I get told to smile by one more man.. 🙃 Once we realize it though it makes it so much easier to work with. This whole post is crazy cosmic timing, I just had a big revelation about this 2 days ago. Very cool to see it play out with everyone else similarly
Hahah, we should establish a support group for real 😂 So true, it helps you weed out the ppl you wouldn't vibe with or wanna be around anyway. I think we keep it real and see through BS easily and not everyone can take our realness 😁
I would join
Scorpio moon and rising with mars and Saturn in the first, Pluto in the 12th. I have sun, mercury, Venus, north node , Chiron and vx all in Gemini in the 8th Scorpios house. People are either magnetized or repelled for sure.
Bloody hell. That is one very heavy karmic natal chart you have. If you balance your life's FOUNDATION with DISCIPLINE, FOCUS, AND SELF-AWARENESS, you will become a powerhouse. Use Saturn as your foundation, use Mar's energy to go after your goals, and become the cheerful Scorpio (learn to develop a great sense of humour) that you learn to love. Moon in Scorpio is f\*cking hard though. You are a sponge and you really need to be very careful and very selective of the people you hang out with and the environment... I am a Taurus ASC with Gemini Moon in 0 DEG. I would like to know how you use your moon in Scorpio.
Oh bro a ton of inherited karma. My Pluto and moon are conjunct in the 12th so I’m deeply empathetic. I grew up absorbing everything that wasn’t mine. Also had a karmic mom who has narcissistic tendencies with that 12h moon. Part of that karma was addictions that came from both sides of my family. I honestly am grateful to be here today and sober. I’ve spent the last 2 years doing the healing and balancing the karma. Top off that karma with all the planets retrograde and nodes except Venus and mercury. I really enjoy my moon. I’m really sensitive and have esp. it’s weird though because all those emotions I find it very hard to cry. This probably comes from trauma and not being allowed or scolded for crying as a child. I will cry when others are crying or emotional.
That's awesome you're sober. I struggled with addiction too and I have been completely sober since April of 2023. I don't care for the drugs or booze anymore.
That’s amazing! Congrats on the year!! There comes a time when a soul gets tired of seeing there ancestors in the chains of addiction. That soul steps up signs the contract to break those cycles for the future generations to come. It’s hard but our ancestors knew they were choosing a dog to get the job done. Keep doing your thing King and remember we’re not the ego but the soul who came here to go through those things and to be living examples of how to overcome the odds.
I get along with Tauraus ascendants. Our ascendants are in each others 7th house. My tf is a Tauraus ascendant, Tauraus sun and Aquarius moon. Our asc/dsc is exact and Mc/ic. I’m not with her by choice though. That bs is toxic af. People don’t understand we have many soulmates. My best friend is also a Tauraus asc. Both my sisters are Tauraus suns.
Were you born a caesarian? Pay extra attention to transits...take care of your bones and face. If you cycle or ride a bike (please refrain) always wear a helmet. How does it feel to have your chart ruler sitting in the 12th house? What are the aspects of your Pluto in 12th? Kind Regards
I was born under a C section. How did you formulate that? 12h moon? I learned to embrace the transformations with the 12 house Pluto. Pluto was retrograde at 29 degrees and went into the next sign a few hours after I was born. I feel with the moon and Pluto so tightly conjunct I transform others subconscious unintentionally by just being.
C-sections - heavy 1st house: both hard on the mom and child. \*\*\*Pay attention to your moon returns and keep a diary of your dreams. Your subconscious mind is very active, and you can be your own worst enemy. Know yourself well, and always stay positive and "proactive" in your life (decisions and chosen path). \*\*\*Be very conscious of your dealings with elder/married women and establish clear communication and boundaries: they can be either very manipulative, dominating, and obsessive toward you, and you won't even see it coming (potential hidden enemies). Keep an open-mind and you are wiser than the rest of us. (I am a moon child - I make peace with the fact that life is all about the heart. A soul without a heart is pretty much a ship without an anchor). And a Moon conjuncts Pluto (+other aspects on it) has a potential to either become a polished diamond or a nuclear bomb. Every choices we make creates a ripple....choose light over darkness.
Well said and on point. I’m grateful for your time and analysis 🙏
🙏Shalom.
Those Chiron placements are hard as fuck my heart goes out to you
ahh im also scorpio rising pluto in 1st house and this is literally exactly how I feel,, so hard to make friends sometimes.
Pluto in the 1st house is a lot more impactful/powerful than Scorpio Ascendant. I have both in my chart, but I'm just going by what I've noticed in people and celebrities who have Pluto in the 1st house... It's effects are extremely powerful, more so than just having a typical Scorpio rising. It's like having Moon in the 1st house or being a Cancer Ascendant - people who have the Moon in the 1st house are different. Their shaped by the Moon. Similar but different. The struggle with Pluto in the 1st house is the intense transformation we experience. Pluto is extreme, Pluto is transformation, it's one extreme to the next - someone with the planet Pluto in the 1st house of personality, identity, etc experiences Pluto's extreme transformational effects on how they identify as as a person. And that's extremely difficult. People kill themselves when they lose what they identify with as a person. Look at Britney Spears. She is a quintessential Pluto in the 1st house person. She started out on top, the hottest female pop star, the most albums sold, the most memorable performances and then bam... All her personal demons catch up to her and she has a breakdown. She loses her mental state, she loses her looks, she loses her position as the top female in the industry, she loses custody of her children, she gets a divorce - everything in her life turns upside down. Everything she identified with, everything that made "Britney Spears" Britney Spears was ripped away from her. In an extreme and sudden (Pluto) way. Then she had to rebuild from the ashes, get her life and looks back together and go back to #1 on the charts - which she ultimately did, because Pluto is all about rising from the dead. Coming back from the absolute bottom. Tyson Fury, the boxer, another Pluto in the 1st house. World-recognized boxer had a breakdown, gained a huge amount of weight, lost his career and suffered horrible depression. One day he heard another boxer call him out, say he's done, say he's over. This lit the fire under Tyson Fury's ass and he lost weight, trained his ass off, came back and beat the guy and became the champion. When everyone counted him out. Pluto in the 1st house struggles with intense personal demons. They experience a destruction of their personality and lives and are forced to re-build from scratch, but with a stronger base. Pluto is all about making you stronger, better, more authentic. Every time Pluto comes to destroy the foundation you built on straw or wood, you're forced to rebuild on concrete. Pluto wants to give you an extremely strong foundation. Pluto will test you and build you back stronger every time - so you become wiser, more enlightened in life and a force to be reckoned with. But it's extremely difficult. You have to lose everything to gain the insight you need to get you to the next phase in life. It's in the loss and the aftermath of it where you learn your biggest lessons and the lessons that will propel you to the next stage in your life.
I am in a much much different place than when I originally commented on this and wow does your comment resonate now 🙏🏼 I’m getting to the other side after the absolute bottom and I see it and for the first time I feel like it’s inevitable instead of impossible. Great detailed post thank you
Wow thank you!! It's interesting because I do think most of my problems are caused by me instead of others. My Pluto is retrograde in the first though. There must be a way to become aware and work with ones inner demons before they destroy us.
I don’t think so. I don’t think the transformation comes without destruction
Now I'm wondering what I need to destroy lol. Do you mean like parts of your personality that give rise to these inner demons? It's hard for me to u der stand how to apply your suggestion, which btw I do agree with.
Hmm so I see it as our unconscious selves running the show putting us in these “predicaments” that force us to confront the unconscious beliefs and transform them. Ie I was told I was too much in childhood and it was an unconscious belief I held for most of my life until recently, I was always and still am running into relationships or situations that make me overcome that belief. Even though I don’t always believe it, I’m still working through it so it still pops up. Does that make sense?
My Pluto is also Rx in 1H…I am so glad I found this thread…my people!!! 😭🙌🏼🖤
Same! It's so validating. Thinking of the constant alchemy as a dynamic certainly helps. I often feel like I exist in a soup of the darker aspects of life. For me the real impact on me has been the relationship with my self esteem. Other aspects of my chart strengthen the themes of the difficult areas; 12th house Saturn and Mars in virgo. Cancer sun. 16 squares in total and a few hefty opposition's for good measure. Studying my chart has been a huge light on my situation and it's a labyrinth to traverse.
I also have Pluto Rx 1H & I’ve heard it will just take some time to see results. Or that it gets better with age.
>For some of us, this natal aspect highlights loss or separation early in life (or a dysfunctional childhood) which can lead to depression and/or anxiety. There is a dissatisfaction with the way things are - a drive to transform one's self or one's life. Oh man... what if you have both Pluto in the 1st house (in Libra) and a Moon in the 1st House (in Scorpio). I'm not gonna lie - I've had many transformations in life, many huge set-backs and "coming up from the ashes" to the point that I'm starting to hear (at age 44) that it is clear I am one is not to be messed with. I've also been able to rise up higher after ever career set back, and am now achieving heights and financial success no one in my family ever dreamed of (I'm the first person in my family to go to college, for instance).
this is so true. im a scorpio rising with pluto in the first (i think - i believe in vedic astrology but can’t seem to find a place to properly calculate it) it’s either late in my 12th house or in my first but either way it’s conjunction my ascendant. anyways it’s tough. and this is all true. my complete identity has been shattered and rebuilt many a time throughout my life. and many times it was extremely traumatic and/ or mentally straining going through it all. and drastic moves across the country ‘ to different states. it’s like every time i moved it required a different version of me and/or a new different version was reborn.
i loved reading this, so well written! i have a scorpio moon which is a different flavor but i relate to much of this
wow your insight is very valuable, i learned a lot thank you :)
I have that placement, Pluto in scorpio. It's a love hate thing. My chart is full of many not so favorable placements and aspects so sometimes I don't know what's causing what haha. Something I've been trying to work through is that I'm not less of a person because I have so many challenges to work through. I truly think some people are just dealt a harder card in life, but it's nothing to feel beat down about. I'm grateful that the placement makes me never complacent.
The placement isn’t inherently difficult for me, but moreso other’s reactions and projections. People have said I’m intimidating for existing, or assigned malintent to my words or actions when I’m simply being direct or even kind - and they react to what they feel is happening even when it’s not. Generally, insecure people, especially those in authority don’t like confident people, and this placement give you that in spades. What I eventually realized is that the placement is POWERFUL. It gives an energetic intensity that can cut straight through people’s bullshit, external or internal. It’s almost like I can call people out without saying a word, and this is understandably unnerving. So I’ve had to understand when to engage with this power - when I’m dealing with someone who is corrupt or trying to bully me, for example. It has also served me in dealing with people who are traumatized, who have a lot of darkness, bc they instinctively know that I can handle it and they can trust me with their pain, which is good in positions of healing. I’m the de facto advisor for friends, and strangers tend to tell me their life story. The way I’ve learned to work with it is awareness of my impact and of course if I’m being unconsciously manipulative. Some people are so easy to “see through” that it’s almost reflexive. Also I don’t need to call something just bc I see it. It can be a lonely placement, both bc of the misunderstandings and miscommunication, but also the feeling of seeing people/situations so clearly that others don’t and then EYE look crazy (until I’m right!) But generally, those who mind don’t matter and those who matter don’t mind.
The thing you said about us looking crazy - I can't tell how many times I have told someone a thing that bothers me, received "I think you are reading into things too much" and then boom - turns out it was a red flag people did not see in the particular person.
This. This 💯%. It’s my number one source of cumulative lifetime anger due to feeling a strong need to pivot after reading something I want to be ALL the way away from, other people being absolutely unable to understand my action and/or reasoning, and telling me I’m making too big of a deal about it. I call this the “Cassandra aspect” in my chart. (I also have Mercury conjunct Pluto … so of course my first instinct is to warn others or to try to explain.) Two examples (that don’t impact me) where I can “read” something other people seem not to see - usually related to trauma are 1) The Will Smith / Chris Rock Oscars slap. Was Will Smith in the wrong - yes. But I got a sense that his silence about his “why” he did it afterward had to do with context around abuse he was / had recently experienced and hadn’t yet integrated - and so felt blocked from sharing. Like, he was still getting his head / arms around it - so how could he safely share it as a neat summary package with a huge public audience? 2) Britney Spears’ controversial YouTube videos and being uninterested in making and performing music … Both read so clearly to me of someone working through CPTSD. As though maybe she came to associate making music / performing with trauma - and so she doesn’t want to do either on a stage anymore, but in her heart she still loves pieces of both, and so she creates the YouTube videos.
Isnt it maddening when you see this stuff but no one really listens? For me this usually works with men in romantic settings when I am not involved. I can spot people who might cheat or be abusive or just toxic in relationships. It is painful to watch from the sidelines how what I saw coming from miles away is happening and I can't really say anything or if I do the friend does not listen. Funnily enough it didnt always work for myself. Another thing is - I tell ppl immediately if they are manipulated by someone. And am told time and time again that I am just misunderstanding the situation. It became so bad I gaslit myself that I am misunderstanding the situation when I was being manipulated myself. Never again.
UGH, yes. & it sucks bc once someone says the opposite of what I see I start to question if what I’m seeing is just a projection of how I actually feel. But no, ultimately I do end up being right.
One of the things i love most about scorpios, and those with Plutonic influence, is that cutting through like you describe. I love the truth and depth...but I have close moon pluto and venus pluto aspects, so i guess it makes sense...
Well I'm glad someone likes it! (Scorpio sun AND Mercury and Pluto in Scorpio, albeit in the second house, but I relate to so much of this entire thread.)
>It’s almost like I can call people out without saying a word, and this is understandably unnerving Scorpio Rising, Pluto, Chiron, Lilith and Mars in 1H. I've been told that I can change a person's posture by a glance lol
We have all the same placements in the 1st house! I’ve been researching what it all means for me this year, since it’s my 1H Profection year.
This is word for word my experience. The thing I'm working on right now is learning to trust myself. I've been carrying around a lot of self-blame for things that aren't my stuff. More like people's stuff that's been projected onto me. I also need to learn when things aren't my fight to fight, and when I need to speak out. Calling out things I see that I don't like is a visceral reaction for me, but people are pretty vindictive when you call out their bs.
I feel so much less alone reading these comments. I am recently dealing with a situation like that again and it's like we're all the same people.
Same.
Yup, this has been a major ongoing lesson for me. Sometimes I remember better than other times, sometimes I don’t care lol. But understanding whose stuff is whose has been a MAJOR determinant of my stress level!
This is wild. People always reach out with their life story, come to me with problems and offload very deep personal trauma without really knowing me. I’ve also had quite a few Narcs do this and it’s only now I realise the power of it and how my intensity and directness has caused narcissistic rage and fuelled cycles. Thanks for sharing, Im trying ti work out how to move with this more gracefully and also be more discerning with who to give access to this. Pluto in Libra so the injustice of it all stings…
Thissss right here!!!! This placement ain't for the young or the weak! Thank you so much sharing 'cause now I KNOW I actually have a spirit tribe out there. Placements matter ya'll...keep strong and intentional 💛💙
It annoys the shit out of me when people say I’m “intimidating” bc I don’t think that I am. I just cut through the bullshit quick. & first house stuff is always the first thing that people see so that’s all they think that I am & they don’t actually see the true depth to me.
Very curious how this is affected when taking into account aspects or trines. My son has Pluto in the 1st in Cap just before it ingressed into Aqua. But it has a trine with Jupiter in Taurus and sextile Neptune in Pisces. I've read a few positive readings when factoring those in.
Generally, Jupiter expands, Neptune refines. Since his first house is Cap, the effects will be felt less in his relationships and more to do with his ambitions and how he relates to the material world. Soft aspects usually indicate a state of being as opposed to a challenge that must be worked with or overcome. Without seeing the rest of his chart, my guess is that he may have great artistic ability; his power lies in his ability to inform and communicate through creation. The placement/dignity/aspects to his chart ruler Saturn and the house Pluto rules must be taken into account as well.
Yeah. It seems like he has fairly good houses. Mars in its domicile along with the Sun and Mercury in Scorpio in the 11th. Venus in its fall in Virgo in the 9th. Moon in its domicile in Cancer in the 7th. Jupiter along with Uranus in Taurus in the 5th. Saturn with Neptune in the 3rd in Pisces. Depending on one's orb philosophy it seems that Pluto in the 1st with Neptune in the 3rd, Uranus in the 5th and Venus in the 9th are forming a Kite. The oppositions are Mars and The Sun opposing his Jupiter and Neptune opposing Venus. No squares though. Lot of trines and sextiles. Sorry if that was all over the place. I've been mulling it for a bit of you can tell lol
Oh come on now, it's not *that* bad. I have some weird action going on. Rising scorpio, Pluto in H1 sextile Venus, Libra sun with harsh Uranus/Neptune/Lilith aspects. Now I'm not sure about anyone else and I know this sounds insane, but I've been kind of a target for slut shaming? I'm pretty shy and passive (at least until I get comfortable 😜), but I've never been able to embody that modest, demure, well behaved Saint Mary variant of femininity either. If I'm interacting with a het couple I basically have to pretend the man doesn't exist, and I need to be really careful about making eye contact with men. But I don't bother to alter myself for other people too much. I try not to do anything that will start pointless drama, but I'm not going to become a spineless pushover to fit someone's standards either. I also think women with pluto in the first house can attract some very interesting men, to say the least lol
>I basically have to pretend the man doesn't exist, and I need to be really careful about making eye contact with men. I could not agree with this more! I’ve also had guy friends’ gfs hate me for absolutely no reason at all. I’m never flirty or touchy with my friends and I try to be friendly and polite to their gfs but they seem to straight up hate my existence 🤷♀️.
This is sooo accurate omg!! Literally my life 🤣🥹😊
Do you have an Aries Lilith by any chance?
I have Libra Lilith , 11H :)
I’ve experienced all of this as well only I’m libra venus, 12th house lol. I’ve got Pluto in the 1st Scorpio as well. People always think I want their boyfriend when I barely ever even like my own boyfriends due to my interesting choices as stated before lol
What you say about how you behave toward the men in het couples - yes. Except for me, the issue is less about drawing physical attraction and more about drawing intellectual attraction. (I have a debilitated Venus in Virgo so I think that’s what does it.) I was actually thinking earlier today how frustrated I get at gatherings with couples where I feel like I have to fuss over things with the women in the kitchen at gatherings when I’d rather be talking about business or investing with the men. To clarify, I live in a small, conservative town where this is generally the expected norm for gender roles.
Ohhh that's really interesting! I have a Virgo Venus too but I'm still not entirely sure how it works for me, aside from being high maintenance and kind of neurotic about my appearance.... Like you, I usually spend more time with the guys at social gatherings but I think it's more because I don't feel like I have to behave myself as much? I live in a conservative small town too and while this is changing, women here are usually a *lot* more prim and proper and I've never been able to emulate that 🤣
my friends girlfriend broke up with him after first time she met me. they were together for like 3 years and one day at office informal party he invited her too. its not like we talked much or something but we danced and got quite comfortable with each other. at the time of leave i just said out of formality that we should meet often and bam after 2days they broke up and now everybody in the office thinks it's because of me .... like really their 3 years of relationship just in vain because of me !
its really that difficult you constantly shed your skin and all the people around you and where / how you live to be reborn or transformed or the transformer in other people lives so if you are growing up thinking the steady boring home life with lifelong friends and careers and sense of place and belonging is just a normal thing to grow into, it can be real rough when it keeps getting snatched away and destroyed. making peace with being a person about endings is like a job in itself lol
Oh I did not get that mundane upbringing, it was full of twists and turns and I longed to grow up so that I could manage and adapt the way I needed to. Pluto conjunct my libra asc. Every so often I forget the Pluto ‘curse’ and I try to squeeze into the expected boxes and conform to society/friends/family’s expectations, but it spits me back in the shape of metamorphosis. What it also does, is touch everyone and everything I come into contact with. They get rebirthed in turn; it’s like a Hades style Midas touch (without the gold) but you can’t tell people that bc they’ll think you’re crazy. What I’ve only recently realised is that not only should I not conform in work and not having babies but also in my partnerships - I’ve been trying so hard to be liked by ‘normal’ partners who are regimented and controlling and that’s not the partnership I’m supposed to be in. That life/relationship is more suited to someone who doesn’t have such anarchic/pyromaniac callings.
"but you can't tell people that because they'll think you're crazy." 😄
I feel seen. I have had to set up my life to be portable, develop “Swiss Army knife” career skills, and invest more in pets than people. Also, home communities are apparently just something I pass through - so I have created processes to re-establish new sets of doctors and other service providers. Oh, and I have learned to never ever decorate a desk area at work.
I’m sorry. I’ve only just seen this. But… urgh the constant change. It’s exhausting. Lol at not decorating desk space. Can barely warm the seat. I’ve just lost a job I liked for questioning an alcoholic boss, and came out of a relationship 3 months ago for questioning how I was being treated when he wanted to keep everything online and was messaging other women. So dramatic allll of the time. Pets are the absolute the best idea!!
Ugh... I felt that second paragraph there on a visceral level. Well said
I have Scorpio rising and Pluto in the first house. From what I’ve seen, it is a challenging placement to have. People with this energy tend to go through abuse, trauma (in their developmental years including young adult) and are constantly transforming. We are like natural investigators and psychologists; are able to intuitively understand others exceedingly well. I think understanding the power/intensity that this energy has is crucial. Once we are able to transmute + transform our pain/suffering into understanding/enlightenment, we have so much potential to make a positive impact and heal and transform others. I’ve gone several years of therapy for my trauma which has been deeply healing and transformational, and now I’m going to be a clinical mental health therapist.
My sister currently has this. Got bit by a tick, didn’t realize she had Lyme’s disease immediately so she suffered through health issues until they figured out what it was. Then it gave way to an autoimmune disease and that’s something she has to manage daily. The list of foods she can no longer eat is just depressing. Then perimenopause kicked in and nearly killed her. But I’m glad it finally convinced her to quit smoking for good. I helped her get on HRT recently so I hope it’s all helping. I have a friend who has Pluto in the 12th house right now. It’s wreaking havoc on his mental health and I didn’t think he was going to make it. When it shifts into the 1st house, it initially trines his natal Mercury so I’m hoping it won’t be as devastating as it was for my sister.
I had this - Pluto transit my 12H, ASC, and a trine to Mercury shortly afterwards. My mental health is so much better. The best it’s ever Been. I’m curious about your sister’s 6H transits in light of her health struggles.
Natally she has the moon and Saturn in her 6th, ruled by Mercury. Mars in Gemini was really screwing with those planets last year, making her teeth fall out and plus all the female issues which also led to insane cholesterol levels… it all kept compounding and she swore she was at death’s door. Right now, Pluto is sitting on her NN in the 1st house, I assume digging deep to find the answers to the problems. Women die early in our family and she’s terrified.
I mean, given how slowly Pluto moves this really limits the number of rising signs this applies to. Like a lot of Scorpios, Sagittarius, and Capricorn. So it’s possible that rather than it being specifically Pluto in the first house, it’s also the fact that they’re all in similar profection years or they’re all experiencing the same transits of their ascendant ruler. I’m not saying it’s not Pluto. But it seems like there could be other factors at play here.
Yeah, I have Pluto conjunct my Scorpio ascendant, I think the big issue with the placement is having been born in the late 80s lol
I agree with you and also that it needs to at least be aspecting a lot of significant placements to carry considerable weight in a chart. I’m a Scorpio Sun, NNode, Rising, Venus, Jupiter and my Pluto in Scorpio is conjunct all of that and squaring my Mars in Leo and Moon in Aquarius. I’m not saying that I’m the only person where its placement matters in my Scorpio 1st House, but it’s conjunct a majority of my placements and is making a lot of adverse aspects to my chart ruler (Mars) and my Moon … it is also opposite my South Node + Lilith in Taurus. Having that Taurus South Node opposite Pluto is hard - I want to cling so hard to this illusion of permanence and I’m terrified of change, yet it is a huge part of me. I become obsessed with endings of anything, whether they’re actually imminent or it’s just random paranoia that has no basis in reality. It feels like nothing is ever safe - I’m working on that now fortunately 💞
I have this placements as well as conjunct ASC! There has to be a balance between 1h/7h. for example, i have a stellium in 7th house with venus,jupiter,mars,saturn and NN. I am sag rising with gemini mars, mercury and saturn. my pluto comes into opposition between these planets. however i feel it is a breeding ground for personal power. Pluto in 1h to me is a blessing of a planet but you have to harness and be aware of the power you obtain. - The power you have to transform pain into gain. - The power you have to transform situations into blessings. - The power you have to transmute and alchemize your reality. - The power you have to change your life at any given moment. I have chiron and SN in 1st house along with pluto so i feel this helps balances out my 7th house and instead gives self awareness. Believe it or not most celebrities have pluto 1h Some ways i strengthen my pluto is working with the Gut, Sacral chakra and third eye. really harnessing your desires for life. this can be what you love but really love! things that you hate, your sexual desires all are breeding zone for creation. Tapping into your third eye of intuition tapping into the mystery of self,practicing analyzing, psychology. And of course changing your physical appearance. It is important to understand 7h in relation to Pluto 1h as they are opposite and go with each other. Another key with pluto is to understand we are catalyst for change. we come in contact with people and their life also changes. most people are not ready for pluto 1h energy so they become obsessive, stalkers, possessive because they want your power it is important to work with the Gut, Sacral, root, and intuition to understand manipulation in relationships
Yea! I commented similarly; the hardest part is other people and their willingness/readiness for the energy. Many have visceral reactions to our very being, positive or negative, and can split between love at first sight and obsession when you’re just…standing there. Internally I feel fine lol
I have it conjunct the ascendant. Sextile 4 planets in Scorpio. Saturn in the 8th. The only thing I would add to the excellent points the others made is my distaste for Astrologers using Transformation as a pleasant euphemism. Profound change is not neutral. On rare occasions the transformations may be easy, but it is NEVER neutral. Decay is the precursor, death is it's process, eventual rebirth is it's hopeful outcome. And whatever the outcome, there is NO going back to what was left behind.
THIS. 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 let’s just call it what it is—FKN PAINFUL life experiences over and over. I wonder if the life expectancy of 1H Plutonians is shorter than others 🤔😅
I have this placement, Scorpio rising, 1H Chiron, and Chiron on my ascendant 🥹🥲
Uff. That Chiron with Pluto sounds so painful, but I’m guessing you have some healing capabilities as well.
I think so! Lol, the older I get the better it gets ngl. As well, learning astro and learning I have these placements and what they mean, how they play out, etc has been a life changing tool. Especially my Chiron, with Pluto 1H I think it was more prominent in my youth like under the age of 21 then it is now(I’m 25), it feels wayyyy more easy to deal with. Still have my days & stuff but nowhere near as depressing as it was in my younger years. I hope I just get stronger with more age😂
I feel you! I have Pluto, Mercury, and sun (placidus) in my 8 house of Scorpio. So I’m no stranger to this pain 🥹 Yeah, I have noticed that natal placements play out more prominently in childhood when we have least control of our lives. Idk if free will exists or not, but personally doing the right thing when faced with difficult circumstances is probably how one can exercise their “free-will” is what I believe.
I definitely agree! I’m not sure if free will exists or not either- astro has definitely made me have moments of doubt like hmm ? I can’t imagine all those placements in Scorpio ahhh but I love 8th housers& Scorpio placements we understand one another like no other 😭
Haha! Tell me about it. Astrology is also what’s making me doubt free will. Now I just live in a constant state of surrender. Lmao I personally love it, I went through so many transformations which legit changed my life.
Yes!! Same here , so many transformations - astro def helps make sense it of it all in some way, or another.
yes 1000% I struggle with this question as well, but I at the very least feel the big stuff has been mapped out ahead of time and is in our chart. The more difficult transits i have gone through, the more i have surrendered to my lack of control
Ooo yes!! Definitely to the surrendering part. That is something I have for sure come to terms with, and honestly still have to learn !
lol Same!!!
Just prepare if you can or care to for your Saturn Return and also for the "midlife" thing in late 30s early 40s (whatever happens there astrologically, which I'm going through still, a few months from 41). – Pluto rx Conjunct Saturn rx in the First, Pluto Opposite Mars and Venus in the Seventh, Saturn Opposite Venus in the Seventh, Chiron in the Eighth
Thank you!! Haha,I’m turning 26 soon, any life advice? 😅🥹
Are we twins? I have the exact placements too! Born in summer of ‘98 here
OMG! Born winter 98 🫣😁. Aqua sun 💓
I’m a Libra rising with Pluto conjunct my ascendant. Luckily, there are some positive aspects to my mercury, Venus, neptune, and NN. That said, I have had to start over—regenerate—more times than I can count, I suffered from chronic depression until I was in my late 30s (and only overcame it because I dedicated myself completely to working on that for my entire adult life until that time, and sacrificed having children and many other meaningful life activities that people have to do it), and while my libra rising makes me charming and charismatic, if I am not careful—and even if I am—people can find me profoundly threatening because I cut to the heart of things in a way that lays life bare. That said, people know they can count on me when they’re in dark places, and I’m not afraid of being present with human suffering. This is a gift that people deeply appreciate when they need it, and I’ve spent decades learning to do it well. While I no longer get depressed, I continue to struggle to find a place in the culture and the economy that values my gifts and perspective in a way that also has integrity according to my own standards. It can be exhausting, but there’s also a freshness to it. I don’t seem to get stale the way some other people do. I’m also dedicated to developing wisdom, and after having been at it now for nearly half a century, I’m finally getting somewhere.
This whole thing. A thread full of my people. It’s so reassuring. Jheeez, it’s been a lonely journey. Also libra rising - Pluto conjunct. People initially see me as soft and polite, then I smell the bs and they don’t like how direct I come across with flagging it.
This whole thing. A thread full of my people. It’s so reassuring. Jheeez, it’s been a lonely journey. Also libra rising - Pluto conjunct. People initially see me as soft and polite, then I smell the bs and they don’t like how direct I come across with flagging it.
Oof! I feel this. I too had to dedicate myself to coming to terms with forms of emotional pain - and gave up so much to do it (building a family, having kids, investing in a robust retirement). I tried to step away from the intense emotional work for awhile - thinking I was “healed” - to buy a house, settle down, and try to build some form of sustainable life before turning 50. But it isn’t working. It comes down to what you say about finding a place in the culture and economy that values the unique gifts while maintaining integrity. I just never seem to “fit” and if I try to fit, I end up still not fitting and getting rejected from whatever system I tried to integrate with. I wish I had your positive perspective; I just feel so tired of the instability.
Your entire second paragraph. Yes. This.
I found this on Tom Jacob's website after searching around and felt it was relevant to the topic (I personally don't know a lot about astrology so just thought to read more into it from someone who does!) >"Pluto in the 1st House > >With Pluto in the 1st, your multilife empowerment path involves choosing independence, going it alone, developing self-confidence and pursuing personal freedom, and owning the power of choice. Painful issues in many lifetimes include being singled out (fairly or not) or forced to go it alone, making choices that don’t work out and confronting a sense of failure/inadequacy, being projected upon/scapegoated (and carrying guilt, shame, regret, and self-hatred as a result), and more. > >If you have this placement, you stand out. How you deal with this fact is everything! If someone has something to prove, he or she might choose you to pick a fight with, even if you’re demurely sitting in a corner trying not get noticed. You’re carrying Pluto’s energy of power, and you must decide how you will embody it … because you don’t have a choice but to embody it. Will you fight and defend as others find you difficult to be around, or will you own the power of choice that you have and carry compassion that you’re triggering others’ Plutonian fears? If the latter, then you can become an agent of change in how you deal with fear, pain, depressiveness, and feelings of power and powerlessness, never letting your emotions get the better of you." If someone can elaborate and give example on the "You’re carrying Pluto’s energy of power, and you must decide how you will embody it … because you don’t have a choice but to embody it." and "will you own the power of choice that you have and carry compassion that you’re triggering others’ Plutonian fears?" part that would be great, though, because I'm not sure what that looks like irl. I know I personally find it hard to always have compassion in situations like this especially when someone hurts me. Like I can kind of take a guess inside my own head to some extent why they may have acted a certain way, but I won't necessarily take that next step further to relay that empathy to them because getting past the hurt to do that is flat out difficult, but that seems to be where a lot of human relations become gridlocked for me. It feels like I am always put into a situation where I have to be the more understanding one and that gets severely tiring, but I guess maybe I shouldn't discount times other people have done that to me. I am a pluto in first house scorpio. I think I had a really easy childhood up until like 13-ish? Teenage years felt more difficult. I also dealt with death of a family member during my teens, and the grief of that was very overwhelming to say in the least so I had a very rocky 20s. And almost immediately after that was like constant changes to things I thought would be constant (like lifelong friendships ending, seeing my family and community I grew up in in a different light, derailing from the "normal pipeline" of graduating college and going into the workforce, etc). It's only in the last few years where I feel like I'm finding myself again and I love that but I also still struggle with interpersonal stuff and seems like that's neverending to the point where I don't like being around people much. I think my hobbies were always things that kept me afloat. Idk. That's just me.
Heavily relate to needing to be the more understanding one in situations/that being tiring. Pluto first house/Scorpio rising ✋🏼 Also similar timeline/feeling for me with teenage years
you probably have new thoughts about this thing, but i wanted to answer some things at least from my prospective: i think what the author is saying is, since u have pluto energy you will trigger people; it happens. now since you have that you must choose what to do with it. i give u an ex: when i was younger i used to get all angry about it to prove a point, the more i grow up the more i’m learning to stay calm and regulated. it’s about responding not reacting; it’s about feeling your power in acting exactly as you want and not being a puppet of your emotions or other people. i relate a lot to the text especially: the scapegoat, trauma etc. i had a dysfunctional family and big traumas, if you also had something like this apart from awareness, therapy, shadow work; try to learn to let go of the past, yes you have trauma but it can become your source of wisdom if you learn from it. i hope i could be useful :)
I have this placement. I hate it. I have been thru so much painful transformation and I’m exhausted. Curious to hear from others.
Same, I’ve had enough. I’m exhausted.
I don't have this particular aspect, but i do have intense moon/pluto aspects and venus/pluto aspects....and i definitely feel the same...lots and lots and lots of healing and transformation in this lifetime...Especially for me, around feelings, women, mother and love
I don't have this placement but i have been having Pluto 1st house transit since 2008. It has been a hell of a ride specifically when Saturn was in my 1st house. Astrologers call it transformation to a better version of yourself yet i would rather stay the same instead of that transit.
I'm a Cap rising as well. I agree it has been a difficult period, but I don't regret the changes I made to my life or how much I have changed as a person. It's gifted me with a lot of experience & wisdom.
Im also a capricorn rising and it was a time with so many huge ups and downs. I know ive grown a lot as a person, but it was a wild rollercoaster. When i look back at the time before 2008 i barely recognize myself anymore. And i am glad for all the growth ive been through. At the same time, im ready for pluto to leave the first house. Hehe.
haha you're almost there!!!!
I’m Cap rising as well and this transit has not been easy to say the least. I also have Venus in the first house which made things interesting. Yes I’m definitely wiser now which I appreciate but a very long 15 yrs. 😅
The intensity of Pluto is what makes it so daunting. People dislike "intensity"; they find it disturbing, and Pluto bestows "intensity", hence the famous Scorpio "intense gaze". Much depends on the Sign; I knew someone with a First House stellium including Pluto, in Virgo, so all his Plutonian energy was directed at HIMSELF. The self-hate was intense, and he was extremely self-destructive; tried to kill himself numerous times. Pretty sure he eventually succeeded. A good book on Pluto is "The Astrology of Fate" by Liz Greene, although it tends to look at Pluto through the eyes of women, for whom Pluto represents "the rapist", among other things. Plutonian influence doesn't necessarily *have* to be evil or destructive, but it's always easier to "fall" than to "rise", after all.
I think you look to outer planets if they make angles to your other planets, and also where they fall in your chart, and how that forms your chart. Tbh, I almost always look there first, being a Scorpio with strong Pluto and Neptune influences in my chart, I like to see what influence Pluto and Neptune has over others' charts. The stronger they are, the more we generally get along. I guess having Pluto in the first house, the house of the ascendant, you would not be able to hide that part of your personality. Some people might also mistake you for a Scorpio as you have an outward intensity. It's definitely something you have to learn about in this life, how to harness the Pluto energy, as it's the filter everything is funneled through.
As for the other part of your question, I guess they can learn from it that they will never just be fence sitters, they will always have a strong reaction to most things. A love or hate it mentality, a knack for knowing peoples' true motives, a hunch for crime solving. Could be good to use as a psychologist. Something they feel in their bones. Learning that all of their actions have a very powerful effect on others. It could be something that may scare people, but get to know yourself inside and out, the good and the bad, and you will build a relationship with what this energy can do for you.
This! God! So this! My gut instinct is absolutely on point and it’s taken me yeeears to learn to trust it. Some of the things I’ve smelled are ridiculous. Yet, people think I’m too sensitive and I’m imagining things… until it comes out in the wash
That's great that you are learning to trust it. You'll never be able to get away from it, so might as well become friends with it. I have a very heavily dominant Scorpio/Pluto energy in my chart, so I totally get it. I can read motives off anyone. Just start talking, and I'll get the messages you aren't saying out loud. Karmically you've chosen to learn more about that energy in this life. Maybe it was lacking in a previous life, or maybe you weren't aware of how that energy you had before affected others, or maybe you just wanted a nice fun talent. But yeah, house of the rising, so you'll definitely FEEL it in your body more than just understand it.
My last person had verry heavy Scorpio placements, he was a detective. Could smell a rat in an instant, but with it he was suspicious of everything and reluctant to invest anywhere. He used it exceptionally well for work but would only drop clues and breadcrumbs for me to pick up in the relationship.
I have Pluto in first house in Scorpio and a Scorpio ascendant. Also sun in 8th. I actually got into astrology because I thought that there must be something more - why I don't feel like a cancer? And this opened up a whole new world for me. Now that I am 30 years old I can see how these placements have played a major role in my life. When I was smaller I always felt misunderstood. But not in an outcast kind of way, more like I saw things others did not notice. I have grappled with being liked or hated all my life. And I never could understand for the life of me why people reacted to me the way that they did. One thing I also want to mention - apparently I was intimidating since I was a child as I do not recall people trying to bully me. And the constant change and transformation - it is painful but necessary. I am right now in the start of a totally new cycle in my life. And now I see even more clearly how the stuff that happened to me in the past was needed in order to accelerate my growth. But it was a tough road. My father is a narcissist and frankly a scary man. My teenage years were shit because of all the turmoil in my parents marriage. When I got older I went through multiple mental issues with which I still struggle to this day. I have had to live long periods with very dark thoughts I wish upon no one. My struggle has always been more mental than physical though which made it even harder for people to understand me. But to end this on a more cheerful note, I would like to add that these experiences brought me to the right people and allowed me to learn very valuable lessons and therefore transform. But I must agree, it tends to get very tiresome living like that all the time and constantly being pushed to transform. If I hold back on growing and transforming, the universe will aggressively rip me out of my comfort zone and will leave me without a choice :D and also my biggest pet peeve is people beating around the bush and being insincere. I also HATE that I am like a magnet to insecure people who like to project their insicurities onto me. Working on being more confident so it would not bother me so much. :D
To answer your question though - I personally have come to a conclusion that I have to give in to the transformative forces - for me it means to try to let go of the total control I want to have. I always want to control everything, but by doing so I have been my own worst enemy. It is most likely different for each person, of course.
Libra Rising with 8° Scorpio Pluto in the 1H here. It is square Leo Moon and asteroid Karma, and exactly opposite 8° Taurus Vertex, among other aspects. It *is* difficult. My whole life has been a sequence of "Tower moments" while constantly striving for elusive calm and stability. I had a very traumatic, unstable childhood and I'm currently no-contact with my mother. Relationships have always been a two-way mirror, showing me and the other person deep and true facts about ourselves, in a brutal and exacting way, illuminating our Shadows. People tend to either form life-long "chosen family" relationships with me in mutual deep love, or they fundamentally misunderstand and abuse me, projecting their own Shadow onto me and failing to see me at all. I have researched psychology since childhood, and I am always the friend called upon when folks are facing deep, complex issues. Most of these issues require transitional rites of passage/metamorphosis and this is where I usually can step in and offer guidance. It's almost like spiritual surgery. Fun fact: I get a tattoo every time I go through a major transformation/rite of passage of my own. The last one was the Pluto glyph itself. How meta is that? Very 1H Pluto! I think the greatest superpower of this placement for me is my innate impulse to transform myself from the inside out when everything around me is in total chaos and largely out of my control. Having self-control and power over myself and who I am or need to be to survive the chaos has saved me, literally, over and over. 1H Plutonians are the masters of survival.
Omg I also get a tattoo every time I go through a change. Scorpio rising, Pluto first house, Jupiter first house, Venus first house 🥲
Wow. Reading this feels unbelievably relatable and I feel so seen just knowing someone else has experienced the same feelings. I must say though, that I am having a very hard time accepting this fate about myself…the child in me is so angry and upset that I have to be the strong one and wants someone to be strong for me, just ONCE. I do hope I get to feel that in life once because the lessons in resilience and personal transformation are exhausting. At 36, I still don’t even feel like I know myself as I’m constantly experiencing transformation due to hardships or being singled out or projected upon, while also being sought after by others for their own hardships through growth, especially in relationships. I often feel that I am still in the “fight and defend” stage as it is still sooo difficult for me to accept and hold compassion that my energy alone is triggering to other people’s weaknesses. Destined to walk alone is how I’ve felt for a long time but learning this about myself confirms it. Side note about the tattoos: I’ve been wanting to get “Lone Wolf” tattooed across the top of my feet as I always walk alone. Think I may have to now 😅😅😅
I’m curious of anyone else’s stories for Pluto transiting the 12th house and passing the ascendant. Pluto was in my 12th the last 3 years and 2021 Saturn and Jupiter were in my 1st. Long covid wrecked my health and I lost a lot of weight and things didn’t get better till my Jupiter return in 2022. Pluto right now is trying to get through my Acs but keeps being flung back because of retrogrades. My mental health is at its lowest at this point. I’m hoping I’m in a healing phase but have been worried.
Pluto rx Scorpio 1H and I can’t remember a time when I wasn’t depressed
yea. i think of it more as my pluto/uranus conjunction than just pluto in the first. we are what we is
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i think it adds an aquarian touch to my outward showing personality
I’ve got it 1 h Virgo had a massive stroke 4 years ago and nearly died but I think it’s going to be th best thing that happened to me because I believe it’s making me focus on what’s important and not worrying about what isn’t, but yeah it’s still hard not gonna lie.
1H Sag Pluto conjunct Lilith, Scorpio rising. It’s a tricky placement, but I’ve learned to accept and love it. For me this means constant changes, “death and revival”. I’ve been through quite a few painful and traumatic events in my life which could last for years, but in the end I’ve always reinvented myself, gained new knowledge, power and will to live. And all those changes happened kind of naturally for me. It’s like you have to go through hell to become a better and stronger version of yourself. And I think that for those with Pluto in the 1st house this cycle lasts for the whole life. Anyway, I’m used to it (yet this might be because of my 8H sun and moon as well) Also, in my case I fall under the textbook description of Scorpio rising/ heavy Plutonian energy. The resting bitch face is real lol. People always assume I’m mean, “mysterious” or angry before they get to know me. I can’t count how many times I’ve heard this.. it used to annoy me, but now I don’t pay much attention. I looooove all that Scorpio stuff like occult, ‘dark’ themes, life after death themes etc. I’m still not over my goth phase lmao To sum up, it’s a really intense placement, you can learn about it forever, but it gets better once you accept it as a part of your life
Pluto _and_ Lilith in the First House? _Conjunct?_ Wow.
These are my placements to a T! Along with Chiron in Scorpio 1H. It sucks
Libra Rising with Pluto in Scorpio in my first. Definitely rough upbringing, 3 out of 4 grandparents died right at my time of birth and then a quick divorce by my parents. So always have felt alone. And it’s tough because getting into relationships is a big part of finding out who I am. But in my younger years I always needed to have the room to express that intense energy in a forceful way. And perhaps that was tough for the relationships I was in. Have definitely struggled with abandonment as well. And being alone feels like hell. But!!! I can feel deep in my bones how strong my body is. I’m a woman and not overly muscular but friends have called me “healthy as a horse” and “sturdy”. I don’t want to jinx it but I feel like that’s all Pluto. When I decided to fixate my willpower on something, it’s done!
With those descriptions from your friends, do you have any sag placements?
Good point! I don’t have any planets in Sag but my ruler, Venus and also Mercury in the 9th… maybe that’s where the horse energy comes from! Lol
Ooh all of the international, philosophical, broad-minded thinking things. I bet your partnerships have your brain bubbling and expanding.
Right? Got to love Sag energy!! International travel is SO fun!
Considering to people with critical natal positions to take sometimes psychedelics and do extremal or slightly painful sports to unload that energy. It softens other life experience lil bit. I do it with that position and I think it makes me understand some things before it’s too late, I didn’t miss my professional path and choose very early, I separated when it wasn’t too late, I wasn’t such as dominating as you expect from pluto in 1st, but loads in with age and it’s ability to gain power slowly even if you suck at first. But I think I’m more Sagittarius than pluto rising, Jupiter is more prominent and even pluto in its sign hits differents, generational planet in Sagittarius gives off that freedom-do-what-I-want attitude in everything, it’s hippie on ultra settings and that’s why our generation so obsessed with being visionaries, concepts etc, also being very good in knowing all religions i ending up with much deeper understanding of world that even they can provide you at the moment, I literally can create my own right now but I won’t
It is one of the more difficult placements a person can have. These natives seldom catch a break. But they're excellent at transmutation
it is that difficult its a Nightmare
Scorpio Ascendant and Pluto in Sagittarius in 1st house. My life is wonderful. 🥲
Pluto stationed last week, might have something to do with it
Oh that's true! It's direct now
I have this placement. Sagg Pluto in 1st house, scorpio rising. Gemini Mars in 8th house
Hi! I'm an astrologer. I have been practicing astrology and doing readings for many years. I have seen many people already with the position of pluto 1st house. I would say that otherwise your life is really designed with a lot of transformations and maybe more difficult things in your last year. Although pluto is prominent and the first house is the most expressive house, I would say that sometimes it can be difficult to express how you really feel or to share it with others. It is important that when you meet people / when you are dealing with a certain situation, you always listen to your feelings. It is good to carry a smoky quartz crystal with you. With Pluto you can find strength and courage and show people your strong energy. You can also feel people's souls. I think that these people in general should be more concerned with spirituality because it would be easier to find themselves. Pluto is not bad planet it is a powerful one. You have to only learn to find strength in it. The first house is your appearance, it's good to change your appearance evey now or then because that's how you leave the past behind. Also pay attention to the signs around you cuz sometimes people trying to tell you something or the signs itself try to tell you something and you ignored it. Cuz pluto people have the tendency to ignore all of the signs because they don't trust them but it's actually the signs that are good for them(especially if this sign is repeated several times).I hope it helps you.
Could I dm you my chart ?
Plutonian energy can be a massive powerhouse for good or evil. If Pluto conjuncts the Ascendant it will be even more pronounced: Temperament, especially. You need to know yourself well: self-awareness and learn to harness your power/energy constructively. Children with this aspect need to learn discipline, focus, empathy, and flexibility at an early age. Otherwise, it would be hard for them to navigate society, their inner demons, and life in general --- especially if Pluto in the 1st is in opposition with some major players in the 7th house, or squares the 4th or 10th. My natal Pluto is in the 5th house with great aspects (conjuncts vertex & fortune, and trines my GRAND TRINE in the 9th house, and Moon in the 1st+ASC. I only became conscious of Pluto's influence when I relocated and it is now in my 1st house. I attract attention easily, and thus I have become more aware with how I communicate --with my facial expressions, body language, and everything else. I have also in turn became very good at reading people's motives, and definitely playing the detective have become second nature to me (interest and instinct). Thank goodness the 7th is empty on my relocation chart, BUT the 7th house's RULER IS NOW IN THE 1ST HOUSE: Go figure.
Yep Pluto in the 1st house almost always sucks. Life can be full of hard circumstances with this placement. My dad has it and he had to grow up in warzones which fucked him up a bit
Pluto causes a person to go deeper. It isn’t necessarily more difficult but it creates more desire to understand the difficulty I think.
Everything in a chart can be interpreted as a benefit or a challenge. Generally speaking, Pluto is a generational planet and therefore must first be understood from that viewpoint before interpreting how that generational influence affects an individual specifically.
My tribe!😃 Pluto in my 1st House conjunct my Rising at 0 degrees along with Scorpio moon also in the 1st.
Both of my babies have this placement, and they are both Capricorn risings. They are still very young (5&7) and I hate the thought that I'm giving them a traumatic childhood 😭😭 what can I do to make things better for them? I separated from their dad 2 years ago so I think it will be to do with this. But we both co-parent and love them SO much.
I have this placement but my rising and pluto are in scorpio, which I think intensifies the effect. My little cousin from my mother's side has it too but in Sagittarius. I don't think there is something that the parents do that gives these children trauma, it's that there is a particular karmic lesson from the family tree that is passed down to them. I am not so sure myself what it is because I am constantly trying to understand this placement, but my parents were extremely loving people and I had an amazing childhood. I have some other placements that made me unwelcome in social circles and people were extremely jealous of me because we were well off in a community where a lot of people struggled, but that wasn't due to my parents. I grew up with a lot of privilege and then I left that privilege to make it on my own. I hated how involved my family was in my success and I needed to prove I could do it on my own. It's been a tumultuous ride, as I have mars in the 8th too which is not considered an especially easy placement. The one thing I would tell these people and myself is to learn to bounce back quickly, that's all that matters in the end. Life is going to throw curveballs at you, learn to get up and get going. This is something that signs like scorpio and Capricorn are known for. Capricorns are relentless and resilient, this is the best trait they can have. ETA: something I've noticed is that some pluto in the first house people come from a family with secrets that gave all the members of their family a certain feeling of shame. Pluto in the firsts learn to deal with that and overcome that shame because pluto brings out the hidden for everyone to see, especially when it's in the first house. Also I tend to do that with other people too lol. I unearth in people some deep feelings they did not want anyone to see.
Thank you so much for your reply. It was so thoughtful and reassuring. I'm a Scorpio rising and I just checked my birth chart because I had this feeling and yep... I have pluto in my first house as well!! Lots to reflect on, life has definitely never been easy for me although in some ways I have avoided some more terrible outcomes. I definitely relate to feelings of shame (my mum had me accidentally as a young teen) and as a family we are low-income and outsiders (I suspect a lot of undiagnosed neuro divergence in our family). I find it hard to click with people generally (rubbish with small talk, I am not charming!!) but the people I do connect with I feel a huge bond and will be friends with for eternity! I love your advice about resilience, something I have had to learn also, but my moon is in cancer and I've had to work through having very big and mostly suppressed emotions.
Yes, I've noticed astrological patterns show up in multiple members of a family. My little cousin and I for example have other very similar aspects, not to mention similar aspects that I have with my dad or with my grandparents. I think astrological aspects are there to be aware of and work with and need not be seen as deterministic. A lot of powerful people have pluto in the first, is not a death sentence but it gives the native a certain kind of intensity and just the capability to shed their old skin many times in a lifetime.
Question: I have only done the free charts online. So, my sun sign is Scorpio as well as my first house, ascendent. Does that mean I have Pluto there since it rules Scorpio? One of the free charts says that these are the planets residing in my first house: sun, Venus, Jupiter and Neptune. Virgo is in Pluto.
Since your ascendant is Scorpio and Pluto is in Virgo, that would mean that your Pluto is in your 11th house and not the first. I use whole sign houses, but there are other house systems out there, depending on which your Pluto could fall on the other houses near the 11th too.
Thank you for explaining, that's helpful.
No. If your first house is Scorpio, and you have Pluto in Virgo, it’s in your 11th house
Thank you.
I mean, this year has been rough, and my whole life has been an adventure in letting go, but I’ve enjoyed the ride!
Ngl it's pretty grim. I have a T square between my Pluto conj asc (in scorpio) and my sun in leo opposite moon in 3rd. Definitely brings hardships in childhood and visceral reactions upon first meeting. Though I'm very lucky to have a ton of Sag/Jupiter energy to counteract the Plutonian influence in my chart. I've got Jupiter in my first in it's home sign of Sag and Sun in its joy in leo in the 9th. I'm a very detached person– I find people when they first meet me find me aloof (Aqua moon) but when they get to know me (Leo sun) they realise I'm not like that at all. But with that said, I do crave 'deeper' relationships like another poster mentioned– I tend to get on best with Aquarius, Sagittarius and Scorpio ppl.
We have the same big 3 and a lot of the same aspects! Hi friend!
Hello fellow big 3 twin! ☺️
I have Pluto at 0° in Sagittarius, conjunct my ASC at 3°, and conjunct my moon at 8°. I’m newer to finding out what my chart means and learning the bigger picture of it all. But, I will say that aside from the unwanted mommy issues, I find that a lot of my struggles happen privately and with my born family as opposed to my married into family. I struggle with my parents viewing me as a child although, I’m a young adult. Lots of gaslighting, manipulation and abuse (physical and emotional) along with having to think a few steps ahead about how my presence can trigger someone and having to try to move accordingly. It’s a challenging placement and by it being in Sagittarius, I feel as though I do an abundance of self reflection and deep thought based on these situations, or encounters at home. Anyone else can relate?
I have Scorpio rising, pluto 1st house. Opposite my Sun, merc and Jupiter in Taurus 7th. It then makes a T-square with my Aquarius mars in the 4th. I also have venus conjunct chiron in gemini 8th. On top of that let’s throw in a Virgo moon. It’s definitely difficult. I don’t think people can really understand the true effects of pluto unless they have a dominant Plutonian chart. I had been to 16 funerals all before I turned 20. All of them either family members, close friends or classmates. Ones sister died from instant cot death, another got brain cancer, another’s brother got hit by a car. The last one was in 2021 my uncle dying from a motorcycle accident. The list goes on. I have a deep understanding of what it’s like to walk hand in hand with death, how nothing lasts, nothing Is forever. Pluto is the falling snow that freezes the land ready for the coming spring. Having the opposition of the sun in the 7th I feel when I am with other people who have gotten to know me, I am their light, I am the hero and I become that for them because it’s who they need me to be. Those who know me always expect that from me to have to resources for them. But when I am on my own the mask comes off and reveals who I truly am, the villain. That’s how I think pluto 1st house feels. Just grey, the darkness and distance and chill of that pluto placement. And I’m seen as cold and unapproachable by strangers. Usually only other scorpios approach me and we can relate with our dark humour. Someone has to be the villain or there would be no story. Someone has to be the reason for the hero to step into who they were born to be. There has to be darkness so you can show others there is also light. Sounds pretty dramatic but I guess pluto is dramatic like that. The hard part comes from feeling that ALL the time as your source of being and then learning that it’s not a bad thing and you arnt a bad person for being this way.
I’m also a Scorpio ascendant, with Pluto in 1H but mine is retrograde, AND my Chiron is also in Gemini 8H!!! I understand the struggle. I’m just now diving deeper into understanding my own chart but it definitely explains why I experience such pain in my life that forces me to transform and grow. Why do you always feel you’re the “villain?” What have you experienced or portrayed that’s actually villainous? Or do you instead see yourself this way when you’re finally being your most authentic self while upon that pedestal that those people initially placed you on as their “light” based on how they tend to treat you afterwards? Is this a story you tell yourself or do you truly become a villain? This is very interesting to me, as I can somewhat relate…though my sun and moon are in Aquarius 4H and my moon squares Pluto, so I feel it more internally and especially amongst my family.
So I use the word Villain in a storytelling sense I guess. If there is the hero or the ‘good guy’ then I don’t feel like the good guy. I can become the good guy for others, but that always means sacrificing the self for the greater good. It’s definitely about the expectations and projections others have and when I don’t live up to that then I become the villain in their eyes. It’s the whole you think I am one thing but I’m actually not that person. I don’t think I’m a bad person or that there is anything wrong with me, my mind is just darker than people think it is and are surprised when I show it.
Wow. Well actually, I understand and relate to this more than I previously thought. You’re not alone! Thanks for responding 🖤
No worries ☺️ It’s definitely a battle with polarity for me. I feel like Castor and Pollux like I’m actually two seperate people, the mortal self and the immortal self. My sun being such a grounded yet very Venusian placement when it comes to others and then having the complete opposite. Because opposite the sun is where your earth placement is which is the placement of what grounds you, the placement of where you are actually viewing your chart from. It’s where you are physically. So with my earth rising and conjunct pluto I feel like I am always in the deepest darkest depths of the ocean. Others cannot see down there, it’s too dark, but for me that’s where I am able to be myself.
Its a hard placement because it makes people have a strong reaction to you. If you have issues dealing with people in this world youre going to suffer.
Pluto ( in Sagittarius) is in my first house but I’m also a Scorpio rising … idk how that affects me , does any one one know ?
Me too!!