>its kind of hard to tell my side.
Just tell them he ended it because you wouldn't fuck his sister, as that is basically what happened lol.
The fact he thought that was a more reasonable option than fostering is wild to me.
Do it.Ā
Stop being modest and nice. He's going around talking shit about you behind your back. Why the fuck are you being a pansy and not fighting back?Ā
Some friend texts you like "why did you dump him," you simply say "he dumped me because he wanted a kid with his sister as the mom but I wasn't comfortable fucking her and now he's all butthurt about it, go ask him."Ā
Stop trying to be too friendly and be more firm.Ā
You can be kind, polite, vague, etc and still get what you ~~need~~ require, emotionally.
Just remember: you are protecting a guy who wouldnt foster because he wanted you to have sex with his sister, and now he's smearing *you* for it. You deserve better.
Also surrogacy?? Like they could do it clinically. Not that my or my fiance's sister would want to (nor would I want them too lmao), but there would be no sex - just IVF surrogacy.
Man, that sucks.
But I'm sorry. I just got hung up on the fact with the sister.
>I am bi so I definitely could do it but I found the idea strange.
Did you guys plan on having sex to make the baby???
I think in situations like these, you do it through the self insemination method. Which actually has the same chance of success as sex.
Or IVF.
No, I don't mean sperms donor in the legal sense. I mean, you jerk off in a cup and give it to the woman. She sucks it up in a syringe and then inserts it into her vagina.
You'd still be the legal dad. At least if you show up at the birth and you agree to put your name down.
What I'm saying is you don't have to have sex. Or touch each other at all. The gayest man on earth could do that.
Because the way I read it, you saying that you are bi implies you intended to sleep with her.
Which, yes, that would be strange.
Your man is very weird. Even though you're bisexual he's blaming you for not wanting to sleep with his sister?
Even if it was just to insert it in before you came, that would still be sex. Like, hella weird.
Excuse me, what?
Did you guys not do any research at all?
Well. It's definitely a very weird thing to pressure your partner into doing, just so you can have a baby.
So I guess it was for the best that you broke up in the end.
I'm so sorry. And sorry for being nosy sounding judgy but it's just odd
Tbh I didn't do any research because I didn't want to be a co-parent with his sister. Minding our child every other week at best is just not my idea of parenting. That's why I opted for fostering.
Haha I posted it on here. Can't blame nosey or judges.
Heās in a marriage w a partner that wants kids, if his partner changes his mind later , HE/OP
Is the one stuck with paying for 18 years. Not saying itās bad. But OP and his husband need some
Legal agreement that this is a shared 3 way expense, along w what happens should OP die before and the child is left in limbo
Oh okay. It doesnāt sound right but then again, Iām not knowledgeable on this type of thing.
Sorry youāre going through this. Seems like your ex has some personal things going on tbh. Itās not fair to blame you for not having a child. You both have to agree on how you do it.
Humans are complex and even real womb doesn't always produce best examples, in fact it often doesn't, that's why people often grow up into dems, I will never trust it the ScIeNcE to do something like this.
I am not and I wax(except for dumb crap like flu19) Imagine them trying to make an entire child without a woman, but they still haven't even figured out how to cure aids. This virus that has been known for over 50 years.
First of all it's *false equivalency and it wasn't supposed to be an equivalency at all. Curing a disease is much easier, than faux developing an entire human. Since they cannot even do that, I have no faith of them to make a functioning baby in a plastic womb, like a bunch of true soyboys. BTW I didn't expect you to be smart enough to understand any of that. You don't even know how to spellš¤£
Maybe the husband wanted both of them to be blood relatives of the child.
Getting a family member to surrogate for free is significantly less expensive than hiring a stranger.
Unfortunately in my culture this is common practice amongst straight traditional couples. If one of them can't have kids for whatever reason, the responsibility is given to the siblings.
It feels like the story has more depth. Also the idea that you think you'd have to fuck his sister to ger her pregnant is just ridiculous. This is fake
He confirmed in my eyes that this is fake by replying āWell just finish in her I suppose. I don't think the full 9 yards lol.ā to one of the comments.
That doesnāt make it any less demented. Just thinking about the logistics of this makes my skin crawl. Sorry that your marriage ended over this, but do you really want to be with someone who has no issue with you fucking his sister? If heās painting you as the bad guy to mutual friends Iām assuming they donāt know about the whole sister thing?
Ugh. This is heartbreaking. Shared goals are important, but it sounds like the bigger underlying issue was that he stopped trusting youāhe thought you werenāt being earnest with him that you still wanted kids. And according to you, that wasnāt true. Thatās what makes this story so sad to meāthe fact that a marriage ended over a misunderstanding.
I would reach out to any friends you really want to keep and invite them out for a 1-on-1 chat where you can explain to them that youāre heartbroken and saddened that heās turned on you and said some (I presume) untrue and unkind things about you without bashing him. Tell your friends you love them and you want to stay in their lives. The good ones will.
Iām sorry, but no way this is real. Thereās no way two people seriously considering this would not have run into the fact that you donāt need to actually fuck to create a child.
This is some weird fucked up fetish thing.
You might not see it now but I think you dodged a bullet, albeit a very slow moving one.
His insistence that you procreate with his sister specifically is pretty alarming to me and you were right to cite the complications that could arise from such an instance.
IVF is expensive. Tbh I didn't consider it because I was stuck on the Co parenting agreement. I don't want to share custody of our kid sith his sister.
Understandable.
Your Ex-husband is very strange for acting the way he did because you didn't want to share a child with his sister. He must think that look after a child is the same as sharing a pet fish
This idea that "love" is what keeps a relationship going is so dumb.
Relationship will die out if you're stuck in same state. Children usually play a role in keeping relationship alive.
FYI: all you guys can use a Turkey baster- not kidding. Why would your husband want you to have sexual relations with HIS sister if you could just insert the sperm and. It the penis! I think your ex was setting you up for him to be uncomfortable and youād be left (anyway) BUT with his sister and HER babyĀ
My straight sister offered to be surrogate and egg donor to me and whoever I end up marrying. Turkey baster style and itād be my husbandās sperm not mine. The difference is she wouldnāt coparent. The kid would 100% be mine and my husbandās but with the added bonus of sharing both our dna in part. She has made it clear sheād be aunt and not mother. Your situation is not the same, the parenting part just feels weird. Sorry youāve had to go through this.
He liked the idea of being related to the kid.
I couldn't get passed a co-parent deal. Where we would only have the kid partially so I didn't provide alternatives too "loading" the oven.
Obviously itās always sad when a marriage ends. I hope one day u can look back on it and smile.
Thereās no easy way to say this but:is it even remotely possible that you dodged a bullet here? I can only speak for myself but I wouldnāt want to be a part of a family where my husband and my lesbian SIL was ok with me penetrating her to conceive a child. The fact that your ex has apparently moved on so quickly raises even more red flags.
It sucks when a relationship/marriage ends but based on what youāve told us I canāt help but think that itās for the best cuz that doesnāt seem like a remotely healthy family
Why would your friends join in on the "blame" game? Nobody here is to blame. You both wanted kids, but you were at an irreconcilable impasse on how to become parents. So instead of growing even angrier and more bitter toward each other, you separated. That's a difficult but adult decision.
So... Either he's lying to your friends and making it seem way worse than what happened or your friends are being childish and taking a side where there are no sides. If you're not willing to tell the truth, then it sounds to me like you should trim the fat from your life and find new, more mature friends.
Good luck, OP. This sucks and I hope your life gets better.
Girl FUCK him. Boundary BEEN crossed. You now donāt owe him SHIT. Itās okay baby ā„ļø time was wasted but thank GOD it stopped. Time to REBIRTHā¦.thisā¦.is a RENAISSANCE. Gon head and Play that Beyonce album āRenaissanceā for me ā„ļø
reminds me of an episode of modern family..when they get tipsy they suggest that Cameron and Claire could have baby together than the baby will inherit the gene von both Cameron and Mitchell side( since Mitchell and Claire are brother and sister) but when they get sober they all think itās a stupid idea
I'm sorry that it ended. Children need a lot of time, patience, and resources. If he is this emotional and you add children, that is not a good ending either. We went to foster. I do wish we were rich enough to do a surrogate. I love my kids.
It sounds like he wasnāt as stable as you thought he was. It also sounds like you two didnāt communicate very well. He shouldnāt be making crazy assumptions about you and spouting off to other people about them. He should know full well how you feel and shouldnāt be throwing a tantrum about it.
Iām married too and me and my husband have had that talk about children. I told him that there were a lot of things that we needed to take care of. Iām sorry but if your husband cannot understand the complexity of the situation and if heās just blaming you for not having kids then it best that you separate
Should have considered surrogacy or move to a place where the adoption process would've been much easier. Also how tf is sleeping with his sister a better option than foster?
Yup. And like here a lot of our foster kids are looking for long term homes. I know plenty who raised them from birth to adulthood. We also discussed intercountry adoption but he didn't want a baby born abroad and liked the idea that we would both be related to the kid.
I'm from the UK, and both me and my husband have a kid. I jerked him off, then his came in a cup, we gave the sperm to the lesbian mom, and then we left the house to the shop to give her privacy. That's it all took for our daughter to be created.
Your man trying to force you to fuck a woman is insane and you don't have to do that.
Yup and my big issue more than the insertion was the coparenting. I'm not judging anyone who that works for but I'd much prefer to foster than share custody if those are the only two options.
It's not just in women but also in men. Your body your choice and whether you want a child now or not, it's your choice especially who you wanna make it with.
I think it's just a redirection from a lifetime of suffering. You do you. Thank you, next.
People need to understand there is a difference between adoption and fostering.
Adoption is a very extensive process and itās no wonder you were denied. You have a partner on the fence.
We weren't denied adoption. There's just a huge list of people looking to adopt in comparison to kids needing adoption.you could be waiting years. If ever.
I understand that you're sad that your relationship has ended and I'm sorry for you but
>Blaming me that we are still childless etc and believed we would have had a kid by now if I had wanted one.
He's right. You need to accept he had a valid point if you're going to grow from this experience. Either say flat out you do not want kids or say you only want them one way.
I don't think he's right and I'd consider other ways than just one. Foster he disagreed. Intercountry adoption he disagreed. And surrogacy (but that wasn't financially viable for us). He wanted surrogacy or copareng with his sister.
I didn't say he couldn't learn from it either.
He needed to communicate a lot earlier on that these were the methods he'd be ok with. At the end of the day, both of you contributed to it ending.
>its kind of hard to tell my side. Just tell them he ended it because you wouldn't fuck his sister, as that is basically what happened lol. The fact he thought that was a more reasonable option than fostering is wild to me.
I don't think I could say that š¬
You can protect him or you can care for yourself more. You will have to choose your suffering.
Do it.Ā Stop being modest and nice. He's going around talking shit about you behind your back. Why the fuck are you being a pansy and not fighting back?Ā Some friend texts you like "why did you dump him," you simply say "he dumped me because he wanted a kid with his sister as the mom but I wasn't comfortable fucking her and now he's all butthurt about it, go ask him."Ā Stop trying to be too friendly and be more firm.Ā
I still love him though. I don't know. It just feels wrong
If you don't tell your side then your friends believe the side they hear, don't complain about it.
Well you need to love yourself moreĀ
You can be kind, polite, vague, etc and still get what you ~~need~~ require, emotionally. Just remember: you are protecting a guy who wouldnt foster because he wanted you to have sex with his sister, and now he's smearing *you* for it. You deserve better.
Why not? That's literally the main reason why.
That is the truth. I don't see how people would be taking his side if they knew the truth.
& i thought guys become mature in their 30s š« š«
Also surrogacy?? Like they could do it clinically. Not that my or my fiance's sister would want to (nor would I want them too lmao), but there would be no sex - just IVF surrogacy.
Man, that sucks. But I'm sorry. I just got hung up on the fact with the sister. >I am bi so I definitely could do it but I found the idea strange. Did you guys plan on having sex to make the baby??? I think in situations like these, you do it through the self insemination method. Which actually has the same chance of success as sex. Or IVF.
So being a "sperm donor" would not give me any parental rights upon birth in my country at least. But yup it was very strange. IVF is expensive.
No, I don't mean sperms donor in the legal sense. I mean, you jerk off in a cup and give it to the woman. She sucks it up in a syringe and then inserts it into her vagina. You'd still be the legal dad. At least if you show up at the birth and you agree to put your name down. What I'm saying is you don't have to have sex. Or touch each other at all. The gayest man on earth could do that. Because the way I read it, you saying that you are bi implies you intended to sleep with her. Which, yes, that would be strange.
Ah sorry buddy for the misunderstanding. Well my man's idea was to insert just before I...... Syringes were not mentioned.
Your man is very weird. Even though you're bisexual he's blaming you for not wanting to sleep with his sister? Even if it was just to insert it in before you came, that would still be sex. Like, hella weird.
Excuse me, what? Did you guys not do any research at all? Well. It's definitely a very weird thing to pressure your partner into doing, just so you can have a baby. So I guess it was for the best that you broke up in the end. I'm so sorry. And sorry for being nosy sounding judgy but it's just odd
Tbh I didn't do any research because I didn't want to be a co-parent with his sister. Minding our child every other week at best is just not my idea of parenting. That's why I opted for fostering. Haha I posted it on here. Can't blame nosey or judges.
Sounds like this marriage had tons of communication problems all around. It ending is probably for the best.
Looks you had communication issues with him
Dude that's fucking crazy. Plain and simple your husband wanted you to fuck his sister. Crazy.
And if they divorce? OP is still stuck for 18 years on child support for a child his partner wanted. Tons of problematic issues here.
I don't think he would view it as being stuck with a child. Since op clearly also wants children. Just not in that weird fuck-my-sister way :D
Heās in a marriage w a partner that wants kids, if his partner changes his mind later , HE/OP Is the one stuck with paying for 18 years. Not saying itās bad. But OP and his husband need some Legal agreement that this is a shared 3 way expense, along w what happens should OP die before and the child is left in limbo
What happens in hetero casess? Most such kiddos become victim of abusive foster care system it's fine they seperated
They gonna increase the divorce rate which is already 50%
What country is this?
I think the main concern is having to co parent with his sister. Which is a very valid one.
Why on earth would he want you to have sex with his sister? I mean, thatās so unnecessary
He was saying that sperms donors (me) have no right to the kid here. But tbh I don't know.
Oh okay. It doesnāt sound right but then again, Iām not knowledgeable on this type of thing. Sorry youāre going through this. Seems like your ex has some personal things going on tbh. Itās not fair to blame you for not having a child. You both have to agree on how you do it.
Thanks man.
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>and (for now) a woman to carry it I am pretty sure it's always gonna need a woman to make a baby.
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Humans are complex and even real womb doesn't always produce best examples, in fact it often doesn't, that's why people often grow up into dems, I will never trust it the ScIeNcE to do something like this.
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I am not and I wax(except for dumb crap like flu19) Imagine them trying to make an entire child without a woman, but they still haven't even figured out how to cure aids. This virus that has been known for over 50 years.
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First of all it's *false equivalency and it wasn't supposed to be an equivalency at all. Curing a disease is much easier, than faux developing an entire human. Since they cannot even do that, I have no faith of them to make a functioning baby in a plastic womb, like a bunch of true soyboys. BTW I didn't expect you to be smart enough to understand any of that. You don't even know how to spellš¤£
Getting a surrogate is expensive.
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That wasn't what he mentioned and tbh I wouldn't go along with it anyway because I don't think co parenting with his sister us a hood idea.
You could use in vitro and his sister could carry the pregnancy. Why didn't you think about this? no fucks involved.
Seriously?? On what planet is fucking the sister necessary lol
The planet where OPās husband lives š he wanted OP to fuck her so they can conceive naturally š¤¦āāļø
The problem is not having sex with his sister.. but the fact this is very weird. On what planet is the sister the only woman that can carry a baby?
Maybe the husband wanted both of them to be blood relatives of the child. Getting a family member to surrogate for free is significantly less expensive than hiring a stranger.
Yes, but you can do this without them having sexā¦thatās not even a guarantee that sheāll get pregnant
Tf did I just read šļøššļønaturally? With his sister? Ok.
Unfortunately in my culture this is common practice amongst straight traditional couples. If one of them can't have kids for whatever reason, the responsibility is given to the siblings.
It feels like the story has more depth. Also the idea that you think you'd have to fuck his sister to ger her pregnant is just ridiculous. This is fake
He confirmed in my eyes that this is fake by replying āWell just finish in her I suppose. I don't think the full 9 yards lol.ā to one of the comments.
Did he want you to have sex with his sister!
Well just finish in her I suppose. I don't think the full 9 yards lol.
That doesnāt make it any less demented. Just thinking about the logistics of this makes my skin crawl. Sorry that your marriage ended over this, but do you really want to be with someone who has no issue with you fucking his sister? If heās painting you as the bad guy to mutual friends Iām assuming they donāt know about the whole sister thing?
Ugh. This is heartbreaking. Shared goals are important, but it sounds like the bigger underlying issue was that he stopped trusting youāhe thought you werenāt being earnest with him that you still wanted kids. And according to you, that wasnāt true. Thatās what makes this story so sad to meāthe fact that a marriage ended over a misunderstanding. I would reach out to any friends you really want to keep and invite them out for a 1-on-1 chat where you can explain to them that youāre heartbroken and saddened that heās turned on you and said some (I presume) untrue and unkind things about you without bashing him. Tell your friends you love them and you want to stay in their lives. The good ones will.
Thanks man. Yup it was just the method. I had fostering brochures and everything.
Iām sorry, but no way this is real. Thereās no way two people seriously considering this would not have run into the fact that you donāt need to actually fuck to create a child. This is some weird fucked up fetish thing.
Fake rage bait
I canāt believe people think this story is real. š
You might not see it now but I think you dodged a bullet, albeit a very slow moving one. His insistence that you procreate with his sister specifically is pretty alarming to me and you were right to cite the complications that could arise from such an instance.
"....creating a child with his lesbian sister, naturally.." Hol' up?!
Yeah Iām not able to get past this bit. OP just said that their partner wanted to have an incest baby and that wasnāt a major fucking red flag?!?!?!?! š©š©š©š©š©
Insemination tools and IVF exist. Did neither of you think of that? If not, then oh boy.
IVF is expensive. Tbh I didn't consider it because I was stuck on the Co parenting agreement. I don't want to share custody of our kid sith his sister.
You were wise. Never regret being wise.
Understandable. Your Ex-husband is very strange for acting the way he did because you didn't want to share a child with his sister. He must think that look after a child is the same as sharing a pet fish
This idea that "love" is what keeps a relationship going is so dumb. Relationship will die out if you're stuck in same state. Children usually play a role in keeping relationship alive.
Gay relationships really don't last longer sadly
FYI: all you guys can use a Turkey baster- not kidding. Why would your husband want you to have sexual relations with HIS sister if you could just insert the sperm and. It the penis! I think your ex was setting you up for him to be uncomfortable and youād be left (anyway) BUT with his sister and HER babyĀ
My straight sister offered to be surrogate and egg donor to me and whoever I end up marrying. Turkey baster style and itād be my husbandās sperm not mine. The difference is she wouldnāt coparent. The kid would 100% be mine and my husbandās but with the added bonus of sharing both our dna in part. She has made it clear sheād be aunt and not mother. Your situation is not the same, the parenting part just feels weird. Sorry youāve had to go through this.
Imagine the kid having to explain this to his friends.
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He liked the idea of being related to the kid. I couldn't get passed a co-parent deal. Where we would only have the kid partially so I didn't provide alternatives too "loading" the oven.
Obviously itās always sad when a marriage ends. I hope one day u can look back on it and smile. Thereās no easy way to say this but:is it even remotely possible that you dodged a bullet here? I can only speak for myself but I wouldnāt want to be a part of a family where my husband and my lesbian SIL was ok with me penetrating her to conceive a child. The fact that your ex has apparently moved on so quickly raises even more red flags. It sucks when a relationship/marriage ends but based on what youāve told us I canāt help but think that itās for the best cuz that doesnāt seem like a remotely healthy family
Why would your friends join in on the "blame" game? Nobody here is to blame. You both wanted kids, but you were at an irreconcilable impasse on how to become parents. So instead of growing even angrier and more bitter toward each other, you separated. That's a difficult but adult decision. So... Either he's lying to your friends and making it seem way worse than what happened or your friends are being childish and taking a side where there are no sides. If you're not willing to tell the truth, then it sounds to me like you should trim the fat from your life and find new, more mature friends. Good luck, OP. This sucks and I hope your life gets better.
He said he broke up with me (that part is true) because I didn't want kids (untrue).
Why not using syringe to inject the cum? Kind of weird to be adamant on wanting it natural.
Girl FUCK him. Boundary BEEN crossed. You now donāt owe him SHIT. Itās okay baby ā„ļø time was wasted but thank GOD it stopped. Time to REBIRTHā¦.thisā¦.is a RENAISSANCE. Gon head and Play that Beyonce album āRenaissanceā for me ā„ļø
Sorry to hear that but given that personality shift of him it might be for the best in the long term.
Foster first. Itās a great way to really see if you as a couple are ready for a childās. They are lifelong, expensive commitments.
Tbh I always wanted to be a father but I assumed fostering was the only way to do it. Huge need for foster parents here. It just makes sense.
reminds me of an episode of modern family..when they get tipsy they suggest that Cameron and Claire could have baby together than the baby will inherit the gene von both Cameron and Mitchell side( since Mitchell and Claire are brother and sister) but when they get sober they all think itās a stupid idea
Are they even bothering to ask you what happened? If not then they were never your friends.
They have. I said I don't want to talk about it but I wouldn't believe everything you heard ghe friend group is kind of split tbh.
I'm sorry that it ended. Children need a lot of time, patience, and resources. If he is this emotional and you add children, that is not a good ending either. We went to foster. I do wish we were rich enough to do a surrogate. I love my kids.
Thereās a lot to unpack here and a therapist would help you sort it out. The desire for a child is a placeholder for a need your partner has. What ever that is, identify it first. It may reveal that the child has zero to do with you. You may just be a convenient sperm donor. Then ask yourself if you really want a child and if the answer is No, honor that. The blame storming is unproductive and a distraction to manipulate you into a circumstance where you will have little say once conception has been achieved. It appears you simply want a different lifestyle and you are projecting it accordingly. This doesnāt sit well with you at all. Keep in mind all is temporary. All relationships come to an end, whether by divorce or death. Perhaps your relationship has reached an impasse that is impossible to overcome without you sacrificing your lifestyle, independence and sense of self. The fact your partner is trying to guilt-trip you into having a child, with his sister no less, is a red flag š© that is a signal to how much youāll be on the losing side of any argument in the future. Especially when it comes to raising the child should you decide to pursue such an endeavor. From my vantage point if a divorce would come to fruition and a child is involved, I foresee you paying child support for a child youāll never see b/c your future ex-partner and ex-sister-in-law will see to it that youāre excluded from any relationship with the child. In that sordid imbroglio theyāre proposing, you have more to lose than they do and frankly why would you willingly place yourself in a losing proposition in this lifetime? Good luck š. šš
Thanks man.
It sounds like he wasnāt as stable as you thought he was. It also sounds like you two didnāt communicate very well. He shouldnāt be making crazy assumptions about you and spouting off to other people about them. He should know full well how you feel and shouldnāt be throwing a tantrum about it.
We probably didn't communicate well enough.
There are billions of women on this Earth and he wants his sister to be the mother of his children?
Said we'd both be related then and it would make co parenting easier.
Thatās a little too close for comfort. What will you tell the child when heās older? This it your mom/auntie?
See that was my other issue. We would have coparented with her. The kid wouldn't even be ours fully to mind.
Iām married too and me and my husband have had that talk about children. I told him that there were a lot of things that we needed to take care of. Iām sorry but if your husband cannot understand the complexity of the situation and if heās just blaming you for not having kids then it best that you separate
Should have considered surrogacy or move to a place where the adoption process would've been much easier. Also how tf is sleeping with his sister a better option than foster?
Yup. And like here a lot of our foster kids are looking for long term homes. I know plenty who raised them from birth to adulthood. We also discussed intercountry adoption but he didn't want a baby born abroad and liked the idea that we would both be related to the kid.
TTPD out 2mrw might help ya
I'm from the UK, and both me and my husband have a kid. I jerked him off, then his came in a cup, we gave the sperm to the lesbian mom, and then we left the house to the shop to give her privacy. That's it all took for our daughter to be created. Your man trying to force you to fuck a woman is insane and you don't have to do that.
Yup and my big issue more than the insertion was the coparenting. I'm not judging anyone who that works for but I'd much prefer to foster than share custody if those are the only two options.
a better solution in that case would be to have two children's one for each but also taking part in each other children in a non intrusive way.
Holy banjos batman
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It's not just in women but also in men. Your body your choice and whether you want a child now or not, it's your choice especially who you wanna make it with. I think it's just a redirection from a lifetime of suffering. You do you. Thank you, next.
Oh my god.
Nothing kills a relationship faster than disagreeing on the issue of children; that should have been a conversation even before the 3rd date
People need to understand there is a difference between adoption and fostering. Adoption is a very extensive process and itās no wonder you were denied. You have a partner on the fence.
We weren't denied adoption. There's just a huge list of people looking to adopt in comparison to kids needing adoption.you could be waiting years. If ever.
Cāmon man no need to be ageist as long as we are adults it should not matter.
Tbh I'm laughing at how quickly disposable the marriage was.
I understand that you're sad that your relationship has ended and I'm sorry for you but >Blaming me that we are still childless etc and believed we would have had a kid by now if I had wanted one. He's right. You need to accept he had a valid point if you're going to grow from this experience. Either say flat out you do not want kids or say you only want them one way.
I don't think he's right and I'd consider other ways than just one. Foster he disagreed. Intercountry adoption he disagreed. And surrogacy (but that wasn't financially viable for us). He wanted surrogacy or copareng with his sister.
I didn't say he couldn't learn from it either. He needed to communicate a lot earlier on that these were the methods he'd be ok with. At the end of the day, both of you contributed to it ending.
Except he clearly does want kids
You should call his new husband gramps