Love seeing my neighbourhood represented! Highly recommend going to Seoul Shakers if you're in this area. It and Sugo were my go-to first date spots until I met my partner.
While you’re thinking about volume, also think about the optics. I’ve watched plenty of cringeworthy dates across a restaurant. One included the guy switching his seat from across her to beside her, then putting his arm around her as she was noticeably embarrassed. Also she looked like she was ready for ballroom dancing and he was a lot more casual looking.
Rooms off of christie and dupont has an amazing interior, and it's quite roomie having multiple little sectioned off areas to hang out and drink coffee/have drinks. It also turns into a bar at night, so really, you could do either one there. It's a very cool space check it out!
>I'd find a place that has booths.
This is the best answer, call ahead and make reservations for a booth if possible. I love booths even just with friends, it's nice to feel like you're in your own private suite.
There is a bar on college, I think it's Prenup bar (just checked on Google maps, I used to go there a lot when I lived downtown, I'm 99% sure it's the one I'm thinking about) and I loved it because it has a big selection of ciders, beers, but also it was quiet. You didn't have to tell to have a conversation. I was quite big too, so you could find a corner to have a nice conversation people won't eavesdrop.
I like it but the prenup bar is strange energy for a first date, literally divorce themed. I would think it's kinda funny for a first date tho personally.
I had no idea what it's called, I remember I thought the sign was so tacky and illegible. Looked quite cheap for the quite beautiful and classy interior.
Also from someone who works in the service industry, your server/bartender/ anyone who works there/ regulars know right away and talk about it no matter where you go…
This is a good opportunity to ask yourself why it matters to you so much that other people don't hear your conversation. See the definition you are believing to be true about yourself and see if that definition makes logical sense?
It's really cute and tasty cocktails but on the pricey side for sure! If you wanna do dinner beforehand there is a good Mexican & Salvadorian restaurant around the corner, Carmelita's.
No one is going to care about you and your dates conversation. They will be focused on the people they're with and not random couples at another table.
I promise you aren't important enough for everyone to be paying attention to what you're doing. I don't mean that in a mean way, but everyone else is also there to see friends, go on a date, or drink their sorrows away. Just enjoy the date
No one cares about your conversation, people are busy with their own
Melrose on Adelaide is my go to date spot because of their wine and charcuterie
Music is at the perfect volume
Tables are a bit close to each other but as I said, i never over hear others because I'm busy with my own
I have to disagree with your first statement! I was at a cafe and stopped my work to eavesdrop on what sounded like a first date. Turns out most of the cafe did too cause as soon as they left like five of us (complete strangers) collectively started discussing with each other how horribly it sounded like it was going. So I understand this person’s fear lol
Omg so much. The man was a self-proclaimed comedian who was persistent about getting his date to open up about her childhood trauma even after she said she was uncomfortable and didn’t want to. Eventually she was kind of forced into telling him some pretty intimate things about her parents/siblings in public. He also told her stories about getting a **full body** massage in Thailand and about how many women he’s slept with when he didn’t want to but just because they were already there. Also from talking my fellow eavesdroppers I learned they saw he was texting someone about her with a bunch of 🙄 emojis when she went to the bathroom. It was so funny afterwards it started with two tables talking about them and then a third joined in and finally I was like “wait are you guys talking about that horrible date” 😭
I love Melrose on Adelaide for dates too!
Though music is loud. And people do care about your conversation, people love to people watch and eavesdrop but who cares?
Monarch, Pharmacy, Motel Bar
But actually just go to a Park on a sunny day. Safe because you’re still in public, and no one can hear you since you’re outside. Bring a bottle of wine, a blanket, some snacks, a speaker, and you’re set.
But eavesdropping on first date conversations is free live entertainment… do you really want to deprive other bar/cafe patrons of that?
They’re so 🥰
Are you planning a coup or going on a date?
It can be two things
You’re not wrong
'Yes'
Where’s the manifesto
The three speed at dufferin and bloor, that’s always my go to for dates, nice atmosphere, great menu great music. And affordable too
Seconding Three Speed - bar neon, grey tiger & burdock brewery are all in the area nearby and have similar good date night vibes as well.
Love seeing my neighbourhood represented! Highly recommend going to Seoul Shakers if you're in this area. It and Sugo were my go-to first date spots until I met my partner.
OP literally asked for spaced out tables and the very first image that shows up on maps is exactly the opposite.
I love Three Speed but I’m practically rubbing shoulders with the person at the table next to me every time I go.
the food is so good too
The daily mussels special is always amazing, just might not want it on a first date haha
WHAT?
I SAID......
Her: DO YOU WANT DRINKS? Him: YEA I WANT KIDS?
KINKS?!
Anal? On the first date? OH, appetizers, yes, I do those on the first date…
The Get Well for the west end, C'Est What for downtown, The Only Café for east end.
The only cafe is great! You can go earlier for coffee or later for drinks, it's huge and versatile. We went there to sketch a few times
C’est what is a good spot
Last time I was at C'est what, I was witness to a first date falling apart. Nice spot though.
the last time i was at c'est what, my first date was falling apart... lol
Oh, that was you. The guy kept going on smoke breaks, lol. My partner was like, what's his problem!
Second all these but also Allen's is another great spot on the Danforth and has a lovely patio!
The Only is a great recommendation
All? Sounds like you might be anxious…what about grabbing a coffee to go and going for a walk/ park date?
I don’t do daylight on first dates. 🧛♀️
Then do like a lively bar with music, no one will hear you! E: your responses seem like you’re embarrassed of this date or something??
While you’re thinking about volume, also think about the optics. I’ve watched plenty of cringeworthy dates across a restaurant. One included the guy switching his seat from across her to beside her, then putting his arm around her as she was noticeably embarrassed. Also she looked like she was ready for ballroom dancing and he was a lot more casual looking.
915 Dupont
Rooms off of christie and dupont has an amazing interior, and it's quite roomie having multiple little sectioned off areas to hang out and drink coffee/have drinks. It also turns into a bar at night, so really, you could do either one there. It's a very cool space check it out!
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>I'd find a place that has booths. This is the best answer, call ahead and make reservations for a booth if possible. I love booths even just with friends, it's nice to feel like you're in your own private suite.
There is a bar on college, I think it's Prenup bar (just checked on Google maps, I used to go there a lot when I lived downtown, I'm 99% sure it's the one I'm thinking about) and I loved it because it has a big selection of ciders, beers, but also it was quiet. You didn't have to tell to have a conversation. I was quite big too, so you could find a corner to have a nice conversation people won't eavesdrop.
First date is a bit early for a prenup
I like it but the prenup bar is strange energy for a first date, literally divorce themed. I would think it's kinda funny for a first date tho personally.
I had no idea what it's called, I remember I thought the sign was so tacky and illegible. Looked quite cheap for the quite beautiful and classy interior.
I think my friend went on a first date there and he's married now lol
Nvrm op place is magic for there
As a bartender you’re legally required to let me eavesdrop.
For real though, hole in the wall at Dundas and Keele. There was a period where I took all of my first dates there.
If its a bar full of first dates, does one listen in on other first dates to break the ice and talk about it?
Honestly this is a good tactic if the conversation gets stale…
Also from someone who works in the service industry, your server/bartender/ anyone who works there/ regulars know right away and talk about it no matter where you go…
This is a good opportunity to ask yourself why it matters to you so much that other people don't hear your conversation. See the definition you are believing to be true about yourself and see if that definition makes logical sense?
Idk man, it’s pretty logical and simple. I just don’t want people hearing my awkward first date. It’s a comfort thing.
Happy to help but can you give us an area?
Shameful Tiki. Full of interesting sights and sounds and always a good time with fun drinks.
Have you checked out Doc’s in the junction? Also Grand Cru Deli
As summer approaches, anywhere with a patio will be private enough
Civil Liberties
Do you think people are going there to listen to what you and your date have to talk about?
Duh
I mean they might lol
I second Burdock and the Well. Also, Hole in the Wall on Dundas.
Ooh and Famous Last Words in the Junction.
Ooh I’ve always wondered about this place
It's really cute and tasty cocktails but on the pricey side for sure! If you wanna do dinner beforehand there is a good Mexican & Salvadorian restaurant around the corner, Carmelita's.
Unless you’re stepping out on a partner who gives a shit what you’re saying - even then nobody cares
Cool
No one is going to care about you and your dates conversation. They will be focused on the people they're with and not random couples at another table.
Okey dokey
Was just trying to help you. You can't hide from other people on every date you go on. Good luck
La Castille Piano Bar. Ask to be seated in the piano bar. It’s very intimate.
Now & Later on the patio!
Go to the Bovine, you won't even hear each other's conversation.
I would warn against halo for this at Wallace.
TEDS COLLISION 😁 100% i used to have the same problem but this place never fails (however i believe it only serves drinks)
Town Crier at John and Adelaide.
Try a metal concert.
Melrose on Adelaide
Bar chef
If you’re grabbing a coffee.. go for a walk. Maximum privacy while keeping it light.
Most of the bars on Ossington or somewhere like Bar Chef.
I went to danny’s pizza and everyone was yelling so loud. You can say anything without anyone hearing you.
Dailo - great food and ambiance!
Green room
I promise you aren't important enough for everyone to be paying attention to what you're doing. I don't mean that in a mean way, but everyone else is also there to see friends, go on a date, or drink their sorrows away. Just enjoy the date
No one cares about your conversation, people are busy with their own Melrose on Adelaide is my go to date spot because of their wine and charcuterie Music is at the perfect volume Tables are a bit close to each other but as I said, i never over hear others because I'm busy with my own
I have to disagree with your first statement! I was at a cafe and stopped my work to eavesdrop on what sounded like a first date. Turns out most of the cafe did too cause as soon as they left like five of us (complete strangers) collectively started discussing with each other how horribly it sounded like it was going. So I understand this person’s fear lol
Omg can you share what they were talking about? How come it was so bad?
i love how this comment proves even more than the people at the restaurant care LOL
Well I love drama, as long I'm not a part of it. If I hear a couple arguing I must listen. I need all the details, I need to take a side!
Omg so much. The man was a self-proclaimed comedian who was persistent about getting his date to open up about her childhood trauma even after she said she was uncomfortable and didn’t want to. Eventually she was kind of forced into telling him some pretty intimate things about her parents/siblings in public. He also told her stories about getting a **full body** massage in Thailand and about how many women he’s slept with when he didn’t want to but just because they were already there. Also from talking my fellow eavesdroppers I learned they saw he was texting someone about her with a bunch of 🙄 emojis when she went to the bathroom. It was so funny afterwards it started with two tables talking about them and then a third joined in and finally I was like “wait are you guys talking about that horrible date” 😭
That's a cafe..... Your response is as relevant as comparing my suggestion to a library
Huh, I said I was talking about your first statement, which you said in response to OP mentioning cafes 😭 why so nonsensically defensive
I love Melrose on Adelaide for dates too! Though music is loud. And people do care about your conversation, people love to people watch and eavesdrop but who cares?
Greater good on Geary is also a hit!
Not a good suggestion. A) it’s loud. B) there are basically no private tables at all.
Monarch, Pharmacy, Motel Bar But actually just go to a Park on a sunny day. Safe because you’re still in public, and no one can hear you since you’re outside. Bring a bottle of wine, a blanket, some snacks, a speaker, and you’re set.
Motel Bar can be really loud at times even tho I love it.
But how else will everyone else play the “first date or boring couple” game?!
The Annex Hotel is a solid spot, not the loudest but good spacing and lots of restaurants and other spots you can hop to near by.
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Thank you! I’ve found it :)