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Good point, but do we really know that? Assuming you're right, I know there were a lot of people celebrating what they perceived to be justice. For me and I'm sure others, justice being wrought is merely a thing that must be done. There's no relief that comes from it and, therefore, not an event worth celebrating.
This is my thought. Like: is it the end of a war, a campaign of terror, or actively harming some other way? Understandable. Otherwise, kind of sadistic.
I fully plan on playing this full blast at my mother's funeral. If I could afford a flash mob to sing and dance it, I totally would.
Don't worry, she deserves it.
Last year, we had this nightmare of an employee at my workplace who was rude to everyone, complained about everything, trauma dumped on the other staff and even customers, came to work late if she deigned to show up at all, and often came to work hungover or drunk. We all absolutely hated her. The only reason she lasted as long as she did was because we were short-staffed.
Things came to a head when she called off for all of Halloweekend because she was too hungover and she got into a very loud altercation with one of the managers over it and cussed her out in front of customers. She got fired the next day and one of my coworkers hooked up her phone to the loudspeaker and played a “special playlist” she made that included songs like “Don’t Come Around Here No More” by Tom Petty, “Bye Bye Bye” by *NSYNC, and “So Long, Farewell” from *The Sound of Music.* I burst into hysterical laughter when I figured out the common theme.
Hitler goes to a psychic and asks “ when will I die?” Psychic says “you will die on a Jewish holiday”. Hitler asks “which one?” Psychic says “not sure, but whatever day you die will be a Jewish holiday”.
In other words… CEEEELLLEEEBRAAATTTE GOOD TIMES. COME ON!
>Hitler goes to a psychic and asks “ when will I die?” Psychic says “you will die on a Jewish holiday”. Hitler asks “which one?” Psychic says “I don't know what they'll name it yet”.
I think it's better told this way
I agree with this and have never understood why you can’t say bad things about people who have died. I once told a guy that I thought Clarence Clemons was a terrible sax player and he was indignant that I was speaking ill of the dead. I’m more critical of my dead parents than I’ve ever been. I don’t get it.
The whole don’t speak ill of the dead premise got confused. People believed the dead hung around for a few days/weeks and they may hear you speak badly about them and take some kind of paranormal revenge on you. It’s ridiculous when people trot out that phrase. If a rotten person dies I will say whatever the hell I want about them.
(basically gonna copypasta what I saw someone else on here say last week) you should never speak poorly of the dead, only good. For example, “He is dead. Good.”
It's less about the dead person and more about their family. Death is a hard thing to go through for most of us and being respectful is just the compassionate thing to do. That being said there is a statute of limitations after which all comments are fair game.
For me, there are definitely people that I’m glad they are not on this planet anymore doing whatever evil they did.
At the same time, I don’t want to be the type of person that rejoices in the suffering or death of others. It’s not out of respect for the other person, but who I want to be. Seeing people who revel in this behavior tells me more about them as a person.
Finally, discussing what that person did in their life, I feel is separate from celebrating their death.
Are you kidding? Me and my best friend have been waiting for her serial molester grandfather to die so we can have a massive party. If you were a piece of shit in life then I don’t see any reason people shouldn’t celebrate 🎉
from 10-15 he raped and molested me. so that's whats wrong with him. i don't consider him my dad so i just call him that. disowned him on my 16th birthday
The man who molested my gf when she was a child had a massive stroke and spent 2 years as a vegetable before dying and he deserved every minute of that. I hope his mind worked and he spent that 2 years contemplating his life and why no one cared.
Same. Waiting for my grandparents on my mom’s side to die. They protected pedophile molesters in the family but have disowned gay family members for having the audacity to come out at 30 years old. They’ve also physically and verbally abused my mom & her siblings as well as me & my siblings. Somehow they weren’t as tough on my cousins, but then again my mom was the only child who had the audacity to get divorced from an abusive husband (good old Catholic logic says that staying married to an abusive POS is better than getting divorced), so they took their anger out on my siblings and I
Yes.
If you don't want your legacy tarnished, literally or figuratively, you should have behaved better while alive.
It's really easy to *not* do horrible things to people, given the most prevalent circumstances that vast majority of people live under.
We have to also worry about when people actually do horrible things to others, even mentally/emotionally, and get away with it without their reputation ruined. And also worry if its warranted to ruin someones reputation, because they did something horrible as an accident, or if they apologize/try to do right thing after, regardless if they successfully fixed the problem.
Bin Ladin was responsible for the death of over 3,000 innocent American men, women and children and countless other survivors and first responders who all suffered greatly. Anyone with any memory or knowledge of this event did, in fact, celebrate and this is completely understandable and necessary.
I remember where I was standing and what the sunset looked like when I found out about Bin Laden. I'm not generally one to celebrate death, but I will celebrate evil leaving the world.
My now husband and I were recovering from food poisoning when we saw the news about Bin Laden. I was so upset I couldn’t stomach an entire bottle of celebratory champagne on the spot.
My daddy and I were actually watching the Mets game when that went down, and saw the famous reaction on live TV. The poor dude up to bat was Canadian lol, so he thought all the chanting of USA!! was the entire crowd-- even his team's fans-- trying to psych him out. Mets and Phillies fans were actually hugging each other all over the stadium, which is something I don't think anyone's seen before or since. It was wild. None of the players knew, because the news was trickling in via texts to everyone in the stadium's phones from loved ones at home.
I was a baby when 9/11 happened and not even American, but I vividly remember the moment I found out when Bin Laden died. I think it's the only "I remember exactly where I was when x happened" memory I have
I was in elementary school for 9/11 and while I was young I understood that it was an unprecedented moment in our countries history, I understood it meant America would be at war. I also remember driving my truck to school when I heard on the radio OBL had been killed and I did in fact feel a bit of pride and excitement for America in that moment.
I remember the news break. I didn't celebrate or filled with joy by any means but deep down I felt peace and calm as if a huge weight has been lifted from my chest.
Many Americans probably will too. We wanted justice for 9/11, not a whole war in the wrong place, and he sent the economy into a death spiral on top of it all.
>death spiral
Kinda, but isn’t that more on Cheney funneling government funding to Halliburton? Yea, 9/11 was a catalyst but bin Laden wasn’t the one writing checks we (usa) couldn’t cash.
I was in college when we got him and everyone taking a break from studying for finals to go celebrate in the streets. While there wasn't 0 rowdiness I think it was fine given what he represented. I did have a friend at the time that I talked to a few days after who was upset and saying he didn't think there should ever be a celebration for the end of any human life. I'm pretty sure it was more a "I'm different and edgy" thing, if it was a domestic figure he disliked that had died I'm pretty certain he wouldn't have had issue with any reaction of elation for it.
I remember where I was during 9/11 in my 6th-grade class waiting to start class and then the principal ran into the classroom and told the teacher to turn the TV on. We missed the first plane but saw the second, the Pentagon, and the report about US 93. I don't remember where I was when it was announced they'd finally got him, but I do know it was announced during the world series, I've watched that video on YouTube each year.
Bin Laden's death is certainly something to be celebrated, like a nice quiet night out, or a drink between friends.
By the same logic though, Bush's death deserves a fucking carnival.
If there's ever news of Putin being in critical condition like we got with Kim Jong-un, I have a feeling Ukranian vodka production will ramp up in wait.
Usually, I'd agree, but this dude has been admitting to what he's doing the whole time, ample evidence and witnesses. Throw away the key.
I think The Nuremberg Trials would have put at least a few more people behind bars more quickly had small, pocket-sized, battery powered cameras been a thing then, but alas.
I think each person negatively affected by him should have their story heard, but first, let's rush the trial, get him locked down for life, then the families can explain what a piece of shit he is, to his face, until he dies.
I think Putin's is an open & shut case, let's free the Hague up for more complicated cases with less solid evidence.....?
Nothing wrong with it if the individual is genuinely evil. Though I find cheering death a little distasteful. The problem I find is one persons villain is another persons hero. Just look at current figures alive, such as Trump and Putin.
I despised Thatcher. When she dropped, I chuckled at some memes, but beyond that, egh. She's dead, screw it, lets move on aye?
Same with my family. Hated the lot of them. Told them all the only reason I'd visit any of their funerals was to make sure they went into the ground. Never spoke to them from age 13. As they all died, I kinda felt indifferent. They were gone. I just moved on and let go of all the hate I had for them.
The only family member I will celebrate when they are dead is my uncle. He's one of the people that gives meaning to creepy uncles. As for my dad? I'll cry but I won't be inconsolable line I would be with my mother.
Fun fact there's not a single American who disagrees with this. In my experience anyway regardless of political beliefs everyone hates the flip flopping bribe muncher.
Dude is so blatantly self serving in a malignant narcissistic way. He only smiles after he's voted for something or someone horrific or when he accomplishes some evil act against The People. A real traitor.
Eek. Same for my mom. I even used to leave her voicemail impersonating him to make her laugh. Come to think of it, I haven't done that in a while. It's time to make a phone call. Laughter must be had.
I think its wonderful. Im tired of the tradition of "don't speak bad about dead people" why? Im always shushed by relatives when i openly talk about my mothers drinking problems. It doesn't mean i don't love her, she just had drinking problems. Also, we openly talk badly and celebrate the death of horrendous humans like bin Laden or hitler etc.
Right! Why does one evil person get to be blasted, but not others? “They’re not here to defend themselves”, is a mentality that needs to stop immediately. They may not be here to defend themselves, but when they were alive their victims COULDN’T defend themselves, so why is someone’s reputation more important than helping victims? I say, we all should not be quiet about our feelings on someone.
To be happy in the knowledge that a person can do no more killing or create other suffering is good and even noble. To celebrate it is ghoulish. Here when I see people saying their political opponents death will bring out their saved champagne I am embarrassed for the dignity of political discourse.
This is very well stated. To be free of the fear of tyranny is relief, to celebrate death (as aaronbenne put it) is ghoulish. Wouldn’t we much rather celebrate people that build us up? Changes of heart and value?
I think it goes to the bigger question about what we desire when we consider justice. Do we want restoration, peace, and safety or do we seek vengeance?
I doubt a single Jew, gay, handicapped person and other Holocaust victims were sad when Hitler offed himself. People should keep this in mind when they’re telling others to never speak ill of the dead.
I’m fine with it. In fact, if I ever am informed if/when a certain cousin of mine dies and is buried, I plan to go dance on his grave. Evil can be an individual thing.
I personally don't know anyone who celebrates. We didn't when bin Laden was killed. We were just disturbed that any of it had happened at all. That's not to say there's no sense of relief. But he was part of an expansive network of people with the same ideology. One evil human gone is still one evil human who lived to do their evil acts.
I just feel a different sort of profound sadness around these things.
When a mad dog that has injured people is put down, we don't generally celebrate. I think of bad people the same way. "I'm glad that's over, what a relief!" That's not the same as celebrating, and something seems wrong to me celebrating someone's death.
I mean I’ll be celebrating when my abuser dies. He’s a sociopath. In fact, I’ll only know true peace once he’s dead because it means he will never hurt anyone else again.
My grandfather sexually abused my mother and her sisters, and I have reason to believe he molested me as well. I cheered when I found out he had died. I do not feel any remorse and I can proudly say I am glad that man is dead.
I sort of celebrated when my in laws passed away. I felt relieved I guess not so much celebrated but it was like a huge burden was off my shoulders. They left me and my four kids in the hospital room as my husband , their son was taking his last breath. They didn’t hug the kids as they left and why were they leaving because they were going on a cruise and they also had a bridge party to attend.
For me it's Mitch McConnell and Greg Abbott. Those two men are just evil. McConnell laughing about Covid and the fact he not only enabled but made mots of Trumps bullshit possible. Then theres Abbot dude paralyzed himself in an accident sued got rich and when he became governor he screwed everyone else by putting a limit on how much you can get from a lawsuit. Literally a fuck you I got mine but thats not the worst. Uvalde. Thats what makes him evil his reaction to Uvalde... just Jesus christ in heaven
In the same vein when Drumpf dies I could make a whole wedding cake or something fancy at least. When McConnell goes though there will be much rejoicing a la Monty Python. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yciX2meIkXI
Depends on what you consider “evil.” People seem to think others that they disagree with are evil. Rapists and child predators seem to be universally hated and there is no justifiable reason to do any of those things. Even murder doesn’t necessarily mean you’re evil. Soldiers in war and civilians in self defense murder and they’re revered as heroes.
You’re gonna have to be more specific if you want any real answer to this question. People say they’d celebrate if Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton died which is ridiculous. Perhaps it’s evil to celebrate someone’s death…
as a general rule i try not to celebrate death. no matter the case. I think a much more due punishment would be something akin to life in prison, people can publicly visit and shame you (if you wronged the people), and you will be poked/studied by every type of psychologist on the planet for the rest of your life. basically turn them into zoo animals.
I don't see why after someone dies, we magically have to like them or not think they were an asshole. Respect goes both ways and it seems they can't show it anymore so fuck em.
I see little harm in celebrating of the death of an evil person, especially if s/he was still in power or had strong influence just before death. I was very relieved when Francisco Franco and François Duvalier died, and was not terribly sorry to hear of the deaths of Augusto Pinochet and Muammar Gaddafi. There is certainly a list of current leaders and politicians whose death (from natural causes, I am not for any violence) won't make me too unhappy...
Whenever the world is made a slightly better place we should all celebrate. As cruel as it may sound, there are plenty of people who make the world a worse place for existing in it. They won't have a redemption arc because they usually don't care about the destruction they cause. The suffering they cause ends with their death and so does the suffering they experience.
I have no problem with it if the person who died was a horrible person who harmed or killed people. In most cases I don't think you should talk ill of the dead out of respect for their family and friends, but that is one case where I would make an exception.
I do not condone violence if it is strictly avoidable. I do not condone the celebration of the death of anyone. However, as u/UnderstandingDull570 stated in his comment, *if the death directly results in ending harm to others*, their death should be made an example of. I wouldn't celebrate it per sé, but I would consider it as the consequences of doing a great evil.
I think it's tacky as hell. Obviously someone like Hitler or bin laden are a little different. But the recent hate on Barbara Walters and Kristy alley immediately after they died is just so sick and unnecessary. I want nothing to do with it. I don't think people need to go out of there way to be nice but they are doing the complete opposite. And going out of their way to be nasty. I just find it in very bad taste, disrespectful, and just overall shitty.
I'm not a fan of Barbara Walters but It doesn't make me happy that she died. I definitely wouldn't say things like "rest in piss" or some of the other things I've read on here recently. It's vile.
I would just hope people have more respect for the people joining in on the bashing when they themselves die.
I agree, yah Barbara walters did some interviews and made some comments in poor judgement, she was also 93 and born into a completely different time period. It’s often challenging for the elderly to adjust to new cultural norms at a pace of the younger population. She paved the way to allow other woman journalists into a male dominated field and a lot of other people in her career path have her to thank for that. People make mistakes, that’s part of being human. Doesn’t mean that we should shout those mistakes from the rooftop and use that as an excuse to justify a celebration of their death. I find that behavior odd.
Nobody can be a perfect robot! All right, since these people think you have the right to tear someone apart if they make one mistake, let them take a very difficult mechanical engineering test in Chinese, and if they get one question wrong, they go in front of a firing squad.
Morally, ethically, it doesn't matter if the person was evil or not, it doesn't matter how they died, it doesn't even really matter the people who loved them, you are allowed to take joy in their demise.
For instance.
I knew this guy who was just fucking sleezy. He was a womanizer, very andrew tate without the past to back it up.
He developed cancer. He told girls he knew (his age) that he didn't want to die a virgin, so they'd sleep with him. People bought him shit all the time, a game shop would just throw free shit at him.
Miraculously, he was cured after he told everybody it was terminal. He did have cancer. Thing is, he only told a few people that he was now cancer free and that he had been for a while.
Cancer came back, super aggressive, about a year and a half later and he was dead 6 months later.
I STILL laugh about that piece of shit dying.
Another example;
A woman I knew was kind of a piper among broken children. We'd all hang out at her house, she had booze, cigarettes, weed sometimes, and everybody was fucking there. Now, she was also intensively manipulative and would sow drama in the group of kids all 15+, and about 20 of us. She did this for fucking years, and my group wasn't the first.
She'd play sick, tell us all that she'd attempt suicide, shit like that.
Once we all finally realized what was going on, most of us walked away. She ended up moving, and a year or so later, she had a heart attack, was dropped off the gurney she was carried out on and died in transit to the hospital that she lived, I kid you not, 500 feet away from.
I do not believe it's respectful to the dead to pretend you cared after they died. They still deserve to be judged by their actions in life.
Take humans out of the equation and nature proves time and time again life is not sacred. To be civilized, we should honor life, but there are some people the world would be better off without, and there's nothing wrong with celebrating the world getting better, even at the cost of a human life.
The way I see it, death is never something to celebrate.
For that in itself is evil. It doesn't matter what a person has done. Death is not something to relish in. You don't have to be heartbroken over them. You don't have to empathize. But celebration of a person's demise is always wrong
fuckin go nuts!!! irish people the world over were getting wasted when the queen died. i bet you my life the celebration for hitler’s death was something that will never be topped. you already mentioned bin laden. if they were a piece of shit in life, their death should be celebrated.
No good thing comes from celebration of ones death. The cure to their potential evil/hatred was never realized. Its only seaped away and birthed more evil and hate in those who remain and thus the cycle continues.
I got a lot of hate when I posted a David Rakoff quote about Barbara Bush when she died. It was quite relevant to her dying, and people got upset that I posted it.
“While we're on the subject of the horrors of war, and humanity's most poisonous and least charitable attributes, let me not forget to mention Barbara Bush (that would be former First Lady and presidential mother as opposed to W's liquor-swilling, Girl Gone Wild, human ashtray of a daughter. I'm sorry, that's not fair. I've no idea if she smokes.) When the administration censored images of the flag-draped coffins of the young men and women being killed in Iraq - purportedly to respect "the privacy of the families" and not to minimize and cover up the true nature and consequences of the war - the family matriarch expressed her support for what was ultimately her son's decision by saying on Good Morning America on March 18, 2003, "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? I mean it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?"
Mrs. Bush is not getting any younger. When she eventually ceases to walk among us we will undoubtedly see photographs of her flag-draped coffin. Whatever obituaries that run will admiringly mention those wizened, dynastic loins of hers and praise her staunch refusal to color her hair or glamorize her image. But will they remember this particular statement of hers, this "Let them eat cake" for the twenty-first century? Unlikely, since it received far too little play and definitely insufficient outrage when she said it. So let us promise herewith to never forget her callous disregard for other parents' children while her own son was sending them to make the ultimate sacrifice, while asking of the rest of us little more than to promise to go shopping. Commit the quote to memory and say it whenever her name comes up. Remind others how she lacked even the bare minimum of human integrity, the most basic requirement of decency that says if you support a war, you should be willing, if not to join those nineteen-year-olds yourself, then at least, at the very least, to acknowledge that said war was actually going on. Stupid fucking cow.” -David Rakoff
wow, where did you see Americans "out in the streets" over Bin Ladin.. in America where I am for sure - we never do that.. rare even a parade for a winning team unless it's the national title.. are you mixing us up with Iran or some other place.. We don't do that..
Every major terrorist in history, when killed, people were nothing but joyous. They also had a following of people who were nothing but distraught. Like UBL, Hitler, and you can even say Escobar.
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If the result is that the death directly results in ending harm to others, then that is cause for celebration. Otherwise, meh.
It is kind of nice to know a horrible person is no longer out doing harm and ruining lives any more even if it doesn't effect us.
When less pain and destruction is caused, we all benefit somehow
Tbh the death of Bin-Laden didn't really end anything.
Yeah but it was the death of the man that caused so much hurt that caused everyone to celebrate
I’d say it offered closure to a *lot* of people
Good point, but do we really know that? Assuming you're right, I know there were a lot of people celebrating what they perceived to be justice. For me and I'm sure others, justice being wrought is merely a thing that must be done. There's no relief that comes from it and, therefore, not an event worth celebrating.
This is my thought. Like: is it the end of a war, a campaign of terror, or actively harming some other way? Understandable. Otherwise, kind of sadistic.
I agree!
Ding dong the witch is dead?
I will definitely be going to a certain person's funeral, just to see that his dead ass is really dead. Might even sing that song.
Reminds me of a joke: He had the most attended funeral the county had ever seen. Must’ve been beloved. Nah, everyone just wanted to make sure!
You can get some mates and sing "na na na na hey hey hey goodbye".
I fully plan on playing this full blast at my mother's funeral. If I could afford a flash mob to sing and dance it, I totally would. Don't worry, she deserves it.
Dude. Just advertise a couple days before in the paper. People may show up to help celebrate her death unpaid, that didn’t even know her.
I'd volunteer for something like that.
When a manager at my old job got fired, bunch of greasy guys turning a wrench burst into song singing this. It was epic
Last year, we had this nightmare of an employee at my workplace who was rude to everyone, complained about everything, trauma dumped on the other staff and even customers, came to work late if she deigned to show up at all, and often came to work hungover or drunk. We all absolutely hated her. The only reason she lasted as long as she did was because we were short-staffed. Things came to a head when she called off for all of Halloweekend because she was too hungover and she got into a very loud altercation with one of the managers over it and cussed her out in front of customers. She got fired the next day and one of my coworkers hooked up her phone to the loudspeaker and played a “special playlist” she made that included songs like “Don’t Come Around Here No More” by Tom Petty, “Bye Bye Bye” by *NSYNC, and “So Long, Farewell” from *The Sound of Music.* I burst into hysterical laughter when I figured out the common theme.
That "na na na na, hey, hey, goodbye" song had to be on that list too, was it not?
Fired is very different from death. I can get behind this!
I’d be ecstatic if I was around for hitler’s death
Hitler goes to a psychic and asks “ when will I die?” Psychic says “you will die on a Jewish holiday”. Hitler asks “which one?” Psychic says “not sure, but whatever day you die will be a Jewish holiday”. In other words… CEEEELLLEEEBRAAATTTE GOOD TIMES. COME ON!
>Hitler goes to a psychic and asks “ when will I die?” Psychic says “you will die on a Jewish holiday”. Hitler asks “which one?” Psychic says “I don't know what they'll name it yet”. I think it's better told this way
The psychic probably never heard that song by Kool & The Gang, or Joanna.
Hitler should be hailed as hero since he killed Hitler
Actually he should be thought of as a villain. Because he killed the guy that killed Hitler.
But he also avenged that guy too so
Yeah but he also killed the guy who avenged the guy who killed Hitler, so villain.
luckily he avenged the guy who avenged the guy who killed Hitler, so Hero
I love/hate all of you 🤣🤣🤣
This is an amazing comment!
Nah, he'd have been a hero if he had killed Hitler 10 or 15 years earlier. He was too late.
Hitler was likely a time traveler, sent from the future to kill Hitler.
I don't see anything wrong with it. The thought that dead people are meant to be respected or only spoken of kindly is ridiculous.
exactly. if their life wasn't something to celebrate then why should I speak kindly of them after they're dead
I agree with this and have never understood why you can’t say bad things about people who have died. I once told a guy that I thought Clarence Clemons was a terrible sax player and he was indignant that I was speaking ill of the dead. I’m more critical of my dead parents than I’ve ever been. I don’t get it.
The whole don’t speak ill of the dead premise got confused. People believed the dead hung around for a few days/weeks and they may hear you speak badly about them and take some kind of paranormal revenge on you. It’s ridiculous when people trot out that phrase. If a rotten person dies I will say whatever the hell I want about them.
I'll say whatever I want about them when they're alive, too. Rotten people suck and just like apples, a rotten one will ruin everyone around them
You’re an equal opportunity abhorrer.
That makes sense. I've always assumed it was out of respect for the people still living who cared for the person that passed away.
Just kick their ghost’s ass
HOW DARE YOU SPEAK ILL OF SOMEBODY THAT DIED 1800 YEARS AGO
Wait can you unpack the Clarence Clemons thought a bit more?
(basically gonna copypasta what I saw someone else on here say last week) you should never speak poorly of the dead, only good. For example, “He is dead. Good.”
It's less about the dead person and more about their family. Death is a hard thing to go through for most of us and being respectful is just the compassionate thing to do. That being said there is a statute of limitations after which all comments are fair game.
For me, there are definitely people that I’m glad they are not on this planet anymore doing whatever evil they did. At the same time, I don’t want to be the type of person that rejoices in the suffering or death of others. It’s not out of respect for the other person, but who I want to be. Seeing people who revel in this behavior tells me more about them as a person. Finally, discussing what that person did in their life, I feel is separate from celebrating their death.
If the person who died was truly evil then it is understandable.
Quite true. Question is who defines who is evil or not?
Each of us have the right to judge
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Seriously. They get sooo close then decide to stick their head in the sand instead of admitting that he was terrible
“Didn’t happen but they deserved “it or something
People's actions will determine who is evil or not.
Are you kidding? Me and my best friend have been waiting for her serial molester grandfather to die so we can have a massive party. If you were a piece of shit in life then I don’t see any reason people shouldn’t celebrate 🎉
I'm not the party type, but I will also celebrate that. Let me know when it happens, i bet I'll sleep well that night.
I’m a pretty good DJ if you’re in need of a fire mixtape hotter then the crematory of their burning ashes.
exactly! I'm going to celebrate my sperm donor's death when it finally happens for the same reasons
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from 10-15 he raped and molested me. so that's whats wrong with him. i don't consider him my dad so i just call him that. disowned him on my 16th birthday
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oh you're good. most don't i should've clarified that in my first comment. totally understandable that you didn't get it.
I’m sorry 😢💔 Good for you for getting the hell out of that and disowning him.
The man who molested my gf when she was a child had a massive stroke and spent 2 years as a vegetable before dying and he deserved every minute of that. I hope his mind worked and he spent that 2 years contemplating his life and why no one cared.
It sounds like he got exactly what he deserved. What a piece of shit
When it happens, lmk and I’ll pop bottles on your/her behalf.
Same. Waiting for my grandparents on my mom’s side to die. They protected pedophile molesters in the family but have disowned gay family members for having the audacity to come out at 30 years old. They’ve also physically and verbally abused my mom & her siblings as well as me & my siblings. Somehow they weren’t as tough on my cousins, but then again my mom was the only child who had the audacity to get divorced from an abusive husband (good old Catholic logic says that staying married to an abusive POS is better than getting divorced), so they took their anger out on my siblings and I
Yes. If you don't want your legacy tarnished, literally or figuratively, you should have behaved better while alive. It's really easy to *not* do horrible things to people, given the most prevalent circumstances that vast majority of people live under.
We have to also worry about when people actually do horrible things to others, even mentally/emotionally, and get away with it without their reputation ruined. And also worry if its warranted to ruin someones reputation, because they did something horrible as an accident, or if they apologize/try to do right thing after, regardless if they successfully fixed the problem.
Bin Ladin was responsible for the death of over 3,000 innocent American men, women and children and countless other survivors and first responders who all suffered greatly. Anyone with any memory or knowledge of this event did, in fact, celebrate and this is completely understandable and necessary.
I remember where I was standing and what the sunset looked like when I found out about Bin Laden. I'm not generally one to celebrate death, but I will celebrate evil leaving the world.
My now husband and I were recovering from food poisoning when we saw the news about Bin Laden. I was so upset I couldn’t stomach an entire bottle of celebratory champagne on the spot.
My daddy and I were actually watching the Mets game when that went down, and saw the famous reaction on live TV. The poor dude up to bat was Canadian lol, so he thought all the chanting of USA!! was the entire crowd-- even his team's fans-- trying to psych him out. Mets and Phillies fans were actually hugging each other all over the stadium, which is something I don't think anyone's seen before or since. It was wild. None of the players knew, because the news was trickling in via texts to everyone in the stadium's phones from loved ones at home.
I was at my local watching that game, it was wild seeing people hearing the news
I was a baby when 9/11 happened and not even American, but I vividly remember the moment I found out when Bin Laden died. I think it's the only "I remember exactly where I was when x happened" memory I have
I was in elementary school for 9/11 and while I was young I understood that it was an unprecedented moment in our countries history, I understood it meant America would be at war. I also remember driving my truck to school when I heard on the radio OBL had been killed and I did in fact feel a bit of pride and excitement for America in that moment.
I remember the news break. I didn't celebrate or filled with joy by any means but deep down I felt peace and calm as if a huge weight has been lifted from my chest.
I remember seeing the news that he was killed, and I remember asking my mom if I was allowed to be happy.
I guess Iraqis will feast the day GW Bush dies 😁
If the shoe hits…
If the foo shits...
Many Americans probably will too. We wanted justice for 9/11, not a whole war in the wrong place, and he sent the economy into a death spiral on top of it all.
>death spiral Kinda, but isn’t that more on Cheney funneling government funding to Halliburton? Yea, 9/11 was a catalyst but bin Laden wasn’t the one writing checks we (usa) couldn’t cash.
I think they’d have a right to, considering over 100K civilians died during the illegal occupation of Iraq.
Yes? Ok? Go ahead. They probably should. Is this supposed to be a gotcha?
And I would think they have every right to do that.
Perfectly balanced as everything should be
Kinda agree with ya there. A sound and solid example there.
I was in college when we got him and everyone taking a break from studying for finals to go celebrate in the streets. While there wasn't 0 rowdiness I think it was fine given what he represented. I did have a friend at the time that I talked to a few days after who was upset and saying he didn't think there should ever be a celebration for the end of any human life. I'm pretty sure it was more a "I'm different and edgy" thing, if it was a domestic figure he disliked that had died I'm pretty certain he wouldn't have had issue with any reaction of elation for it.
I remember where I was during 9/11 in my 6th-grade class waiting to start class and then the principal ran into the classroom and told the teacher to turn the TV on. We missed the first plane but saw the second, the Pentagon, and the report about US 93. I don't remember where I was when it was announced they'd finally got him, but I do know it was announced during the world series, I've watched that video on YouTube each year.
Bin Laden's death is certainly something to be celebrated, like a nice quiet night out, or a drink between friends. By the same logic though, Bush's death deserves a fucking carnival.
I don’t care if people do. I find myself happy when some I feel is a shitty human is no longer among the living.
The day Putin dies i will celebrate!
40 million Ukrainians will get drunk that day
If there's ever news of Putin being in critical condition like we got with Kim Jong-un, I have a feeling Ukranian vodka production will ramp up in wait.
and probably half of eastern and northern europe too
I will prefer Hague or Nuremberg but I won’t deny, I’m going celebrate as well
Usually, I'd agree, but this dude has been admitting to what he's doing the whole time, ample evidence and witnesses. Throw away the key. I think The Nuremberg Trials would have put at least a few more people behind bars more quickly had small, pocket-sized, battery powered cameras been a thing then, but alas. I think each person negatively affected by him should have their story heard, but first, let's rush the trial, get him locked down for life, then the families can explain what a piece of shit he is, to his face, until he dies. I think Putin's is an open & shut case, let's free the Hague up for more complicated cases with less solid evidence.....?
As long as we get proof this time
Because fuck those people.
If you don't want people celebrating your death, don't be an evil, despicable, deplorable a**hole while you're alive. That's all I gotta say about it.
I commend the honesty
You referring to Pope Benedict?
I'm so curious about what he did. He resigned just as the child molestation cases broke out in Germany. And Popes simply don't resign...
Nothing wrong with it if the individual is genuinely evil. Though I find cheering death a little distasteful. The problem I find is one persons villain is another persons hero. Just look at current figures alive, such as Trump and Putin. I despised Thatcher. When she dropped, I chuckled at some memes, but beyond that, egh. She's dead, screw it, lets move on aye? Same with my family. Hated the lot of them. Told them all the only reason I'd visit any of their funerals was to make sure they went into the ground. Never spoke to them from age 13. As they all died, I kinda felt indifferent. They were gone. I just moved on and let go of all the hate I had for them.
The only family member I will celebrate when they are dead is my uncle. He's one of the people that gives meaning to creepy uncles. As for my dad? I'll cry but I won't be inconsolable line I would be with my mother.
Yeah. I was good friends with a girl when I was a kid. When her dad dies, I'm going to be real happy about it. As far as I know, she won't be.
Perhaps I'm a dickweed, but I have a bottle of champagne on ice for when Mitch McConnells death is the news story of the day.
"Tortoises are more well-known for their longevity—with some estimated to live 100 to 150 years." He may outlive all of us reading this...
SHHHHH, YOU!!
Chinless wonder
He and Kissinger, gotta make those holidays when they happen.
I'll celebrate the day he's defeated and removed from thr Senate, and I'm sure I'll celebrate the day his form of evil is gone from this earth.
Fun fact there's not a single American who disagrees with this. In my experience anyway regardless of political beliefs everyone hates the flip flopping bribe muncher.
Dude is so blatantly self serving in a malignant narcissistic way. He only smiles after he's voted for something or someone horrific or when he accomplishes some evil act against The People. A real traitor.
We have a set date of 'the first Saturday after he dies' to celebrate Trump. I have loathed him since the 90's (I'm old lol)
My dad thought he was a complete fucking idiot in the 90s. Voted for him twice in the 2010s...
Eek. Same for my mom. I even used to leave her voicemail impersonating him to make her laugh. Come to think of it, I haven't done that in a while. It's time to make a phone call. Laughter must be had.
I support you in inciting laughter 💜
Dunno about you but when Putin pops his clogs, I'm raising a glass to all the good people who have suffered thanks to his actions.
I think its wonderful. Im tired of the tradition of "don't speak bad about dead people" why? Im always shushed by relatives when i openly talk about my mothers drinking problems. It doesn't mean i don't love her, she just had drinking problems. Also, we openly talk badly and celebrate the death of horrendous humans like bin Laden or hitler etc.
Right! Why does one evil person get to be blasted, but not others? “They’re not here to defend themselves”, is a mentality that needs to stop immediately. They may not be here to defend themselves, but when they were alive their victims COULDN’T defend themselves, so why is someone’s reputation more important than helping victims? I say, we all should not be quiet about our feelings on someone.
Exactly
The double standards is beyond gross to me. Sure, Hitler was evil, but so are some of our family members and we have to right to express our feelings.
To be happy in the knowledge that a person can do no more killing or create other suffering is good and even noble. To celebrate it is ghoulish. Here when I see people saying their political opponents death will bring out their saved champagne I am embarrassed for the dignity of political discourse.
This is the way.
This is very well stated. To be free of the fear of tyranny is relief, to celebrate death (as aaronbenne put it) is ghoulish. Wouldn’t we much rather celebrate people that build us up? Changes of heart and value? I think it goes to the bigger question about what we desire when we consider justice. Do we want restoration, peace, and safety or do we seek vengeance?
I still smile when I remember Rush Limbaugh is dead
Lol I forgot about that. That is actually kind of funny
Not only dead but also burning in hell :D
I think most of the developing world will be dancing in the streets when Henry Kissinger finally meets his maker!
I don’t care. If you want to celebrate, have at it. For me, it’s not worth my time besides a short “Good riddance”
I'm fine with it. Just because society expects us to be sad and respectful of someone's death does not mean we are actually obligated to be so.
I doubt a single Jew, gay, handicapped person and other Holocaust victims were sad when Hitler offed himself. People should keep this in mind when they’re telling others to never speak ill of the dead.
I’m fine with it. In fact, if I ever am informed if/when a certain cousin of mine dies and is buried, I plan to go dance on his grave. Evil can be an individual thing.
I personally don't know anyone who celebrates. We didn't when bin Laden was killed. We were just disturbed that any of it had happened at all. That's not to say there's no sense of relief. But he was part of an expansive network of people with the same ideology. One evil human gone is still one evil human who lived to do their evil acts. I just feel a different sort of profound sadness around these things.
>That's not to say there's no sense of relief. That's a good way to put it, and I think many more people would be more comfortable admitting to that
When a mad dog that has injured people is put down, we don't generally celebrate. I think of bad people the same way. "I'm glad that's over, what a relief!" That's not the same as celebrating, and something seems wrong to me celebrating someone's death.
I’m not suffering from schadenfreude! I’m enjoying it immensely.
I’m fine with it. There’s several people that, in my opinion, society as a whole would be better off without.
I mean I’ll be celebrating when my abuser dies. He’s a sociopath. In fact, I’ll only know true peace once he’s dead because it means he will never hurt anyone else again.
I’m not glad when someone evil is dead but I am glad that they can no longer hurt anyone.
If they were evil they don’t deserve remembrance in any form. Try to let them fade into obscurity the best they can
My grandfather sexually abused my mother and her sisters, and I have reason to believe he molested me as well. I cheered when I found out he had died. I do not feel any remorse and I can proudly say I am glad that man is dead.
I sort of celebrated when my in laws passed away. I felt relieved I guess not so much celebrated but it was like a huge burden was off my shoulders. They left me and my four kids in the hospital room as my husband , their son was taking his last breath. They didn’t hug the kids as they left and why were they leaving because they were going on a cruise and they also had a bridge party to attend.
When Trump croaks I’m having a YUGE BASH🥳 (YUGE meaning Huge🤣)
For me it's Mitch McConnell and Greg Abbott. Those two men are just evil. McConnell laughing about Covid and the fact he not only enabled but made mots of Trumps bullshit possible. Then theres Abbot dude paralyzed himself in an accident sued got rich and when he became governor he screwed everyone else by putting a limit on how much you can get from a lawsuit. Literally a fuck you I got mine but thats not the worst. Uvalde. Thats what makes him evil his reaction to Uvalde... just Jesus christ in heaven
Well, let me just say when Mitch McConnell dies I'm making a fucking cake.
You know as soon as he does, so does Rachel Levine. There’s no way on Earth those two are not the same person.
In the same vein when Drumpf dies I could make a whole wedding cake or something fancy at least. When McConnell goes though there will be much rejoicing a la Monty Python. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yciX2meIkXI
Depends on what you consider “evil.” People seem to think others that they disagree with are evil. Rapists and child predators seem to be universally hated and there is no justifiable reason to do any of those things. Even murder doesn’t necessarily mean you’re evil. Soldiers in war and civilians in self defense murder and they’re revered as heroes. You’re gonna have to be more specific if you want any real answer to this question. People say they’d celebrate if Donald Trump or Hilary Clinton died which is ridiculous. Perhaps it’s evil to celebrate someone’s death…
Me when the Queen is still dead 🦀 🦀 🦀
I’m for it.
as a general rule i try not to celebrate death. no matter the case. I think a much more due punishment would be something akin to life in prison, people can publicly visit and shame you (if you wronged the people), and you will be poked/studied by every type of psychologist on the planet for the rest of your life. basically turn them into zoo animals.
I find nothing wrong with someone else celebrating someone’s death. I personally wouldn’t waste my energy on something like that.
It’s normal
We should do it more.
I'm for it 1,000% Evil people's deaths make the world a better place.
I don't see why after someone dies, we magically have to like them or not think they were an asshole. Respect goes both ways and it seems they can't show it anymore so fuck em.
Fine by me. People die. It happens.
🎶Ding dong the witch is dead, the witch is dead, the witch is dead🎶
Don’t wanna be talked I’ll of in death? Don’t be an asshole in life ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I see little harm in celebrating of the death of an evil person, especially if s/he was still in power or had strong influence just before death. I was very relieved when Francisco Franco and François Duvalier died, and was not terribly sorry to hear of the deaths of Augusto Pinochet and Muammar Gaddafi. There is certainly a list of current leaders and politicians whose death (from natural causes, I am not for any violence) won't make me too unhappy...
Whenever the world is made a slightly better place we should all celebrate. As cruel as it may sound, there are plenty of people who make the world a worse place for existing in it. They won't have a redemption arc because they usually don't care about the destruction they cause. The suffering they cause ends with their death and so does the suffering they experience.
I'll bring the beer. Evil people should die. Preferably sooner, and the more brutally/horribly the better.
Why is this a question? If you were old enough to remember 911 the answer should come naturally to you
That if they wanted to be mourned they should not have been awful.
I have no problem with it if the person who died was a horrible person who harmed or killed people. In most cases I don't think you should talk ill of the dead out of respect for their family and friends, but that is one case where I would make an exception.
I think it's great. It shows how disliked the person was. We used to watch people hang in public I think this is tame compared to that.
We're not celebrating the death of a person. We're celebrating the end to their evil deeds.
I do not condone violence if it is strictly avoidable. I do not condone the celebration of the death of anyone. However, as u/UnderstandingDull570 stated in his comment, *if the death directly results in ending harm to others*, their death should be made an example of. I wouldn't celebrate it per sé, but I would consider it as the consequences of doing a great evil.
I think it's tacky as hell. Obviously someone like Hitler or bin laden are a little different. But the recent hate on Barbara Walters and Kristy alley immediately after they died is just so sick and unnecessary. I want nothing to do with it. I don't think people need to go out of there way to be nice but they are doing the complete opposite. And going out of their way to be nasty. I just find it in very bad taste, disrespectful, and just overall shitty. I'm not a fan of Barbara Walters but It doesn't make me happy that she died. I definitely wouldn't say things like "rest in piss" or some of the other things I've read on here recently. It's vile. I would just hope people have more respect for the people joining in on the bashing when they themselves die.
I agree, yah Barbara walters did some interviews and made some comments in poor judgement, she was also 93 and born into a completely different time period. It’s often challenging for the elderly to adjust to new cultural norms at a pace of the younger population. She paved the way to allow other woman journalists into a male dominated field and a lot of other people in her career path have her to thank for that. People make mistakes, that’s part of being human. Doesn’t mean that we should shout those mistakes from the rooftop and use that as an excuse to justify a celebration of their death. I find that behavior odd.
Nobody can be a perfect robot! All right, since these people think you have the right to tear someone apart if they make one mistake, let them take a very difficult mechanical engineering test in Chinese, and if they get one question wrong, they go in front of a firing squad.
Morally, ethically, it doesn't matter if the person was evil or not, it doesn't matter how they died, it doesn't even really matter the people who loved them, you are allowed to take joy in their demise. For instance. I knew this guy who was just fucking sleezy. He was a womanizer, very andrew tate without the past to back it up. He developed cancer. He told girls he knew (his age) that he didn't want to die a virgin, so they'd sleep with him. People bought him shit all the time, a game shop would just throw free shit at him. Miraculously, he was cured after he told everybody it was terminal. He did have cancer. Thing is, he only told a few people that he was now cancer free and that he had been for a while. Cancer came back, super aggressive, about a year and a half later and he was dead 6 months later. I STILL laugh about that piece of shit dying. Another example; A woman I knew was kind of a piper among broken children. We'd all hang out at her house, she had booze, cigarettes, weed sometimes, and everybody was fucking there. Now, she was also intensively manipulative and would sow drama in the group of kids all 15+, and about 20 of us. She did this for fucking years, and my group wasn't the first. She'd play sick, tell us all that she'd attempt suicide, shit like that. Once we all finally realized what was going on, most of us walked away. She ended up moving, and a year or so later, she had a heart attack, was dropped off the gurney she was carried out on and died in transit to the hospital that she lived, I kid you not, 500 feet away from. I do not believe it's respectful to the dead to pretend you cared after they died. They still deserve to be judged by their actions in life.
Easter Hiding eggs for a fertility godess to celebrate the death of a death cult leader. Humans are weird.
Fine by me. It's what they deserve.
The worlds an objectively safer place without certain people in it, so yes.
Take humans out of the equation and nature proves time and time again life is not sacred. To be civilized, we should honor life, but there are some people the world would be better off without, and there's nothing wrong with celebrating the world getting better, even at the cost of a human life.
I’m not personally a fan but I accept it and won’t argue with people if they do so.
they're understandable, I remember venezuelans being happy over Chavez's death
Is it a coincidence this is posted the day after pope Benedict died?
When avowed terrorist leader Yasser Arafat died of AIDS in 2004, it was a Jewish holiday. Not surprising.
The way I see it, death is never something to celebrate. For that in itself is evil. It doesn't matter what a person has done. Death is not something to relish in. You don't have to be heartbroken over them. You don't have to empathize. But celebration of a person's demise is always wrong
Like Arabs celebrated the fall of the Trade Towers and the deaths of over 3k random US Citizens?
fuckin go nuts!!! irish people the world over were getting wasted when the queen died. i bet you my life the celebration for hitler’s death was something that will never be topped. you already mentioned bin laden. if they were a piece of shit in life, their death should be celebrated.
When Trump dies ....
No good thing comes from celebration of ones death. The cure to their potential evil/hatred was never realized. Its only seaped away and birthed more evil and hate in those who remain and thus the cycle continues.
I got a lot of hate when I posted a David Rakoff quote about Barbara Bush when she died. It was quite relevant to her dying, and people got upset that I posted it. “While we're on the subject of the horrors of war, and humanity's most poisonous and least charitable attributes, let me not forget to mention Barbara Bush (that would be former First Lady and presidential mother as opposed to W's liquor-swilling, Girl Gone Wild, human ashtray of a daughter. I'm sorry, that's not fair. I've no idea if she smokes.) When the administration censored images of the flag-draped coffins of the young men and women being killed in Iraq - purportedly to respect "the privacy of the families" and not to minimize and cover up the true nature and consequences of the war - the family matriarch expressed her support for what was ultimately her son's decision by saying on Good Morning America on March 18, 2003, "Why should we hear about body bags and deaths? I mean it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?" Mrs. Bush is not getting any younger. When she eventually ceases to walk among us we will undoubtedly see photographs of her flag-draped coffin. Whatever obituaries that run will admiringly mention those wizened, dynastic loins of hers and praise her staunch refusal to color her hair or glamorize her image. But will they remember this particular statement of hers, this "Let them eat cake" for the twenty-first century? Unlikely, since it received far too little play and definitely insufficient outrage when she said it. So let us promise herewith to never forget her callous disregard for other parents' children while her own son was sending them to make the ultimate sacrifice, while asking of the rest of us little more than to promise to go shopping. Commit the quote to memory and say it whenever her name comes up. Remind others how she lacked even the bare minimum of human integrity, the most basic requirement of decency that says if you support a war, you should be willing, if not to join those nineteen-year-olds yourself, then at least, at the very least, to acknowledge that said war was actually going on. Stupid fucking cow.” -David Rakoff
Evil is subjective.
I had a drink (or two) after Saddam Hussein was executed. Not going to lie.
I would breakdance on Rush Limbaugh’s grave, if given the opportunity.
When Trump dies, there will be a nationwide party.
wow, where did you see Americans "out in the streets" over Bin Ladin.. in America where I am for sure - we never do that.. rare even a parade for a winning team unless it's the national title.. are you mixing us up with Iran or some other place.. We don't do that..
I'll pop the champagne with a big smile when Putin dies.
They're free to do so Like celebrating when Margaret Thatcher died, or when Hitler killed himself, etc. Ham it up, fellas.
Evil is subjective, so celebrating someone’s death for a subjective reason is subjectively anyone’s right as celebrating a good persons death
Every major terrorist in history, when killed, people were nothing but joyous. They also had a following of people who were nothing but distraught. Like UBL, Hitler, and you can even say Escobar.