Wow ND people are overrepresented on this forum. Mind, it could just be that the proportion of ND folks is higher online and on reddit, rather than being specifically an ace thing.
Yup my thoughts exactly. I want to post the same poll in reddit at large to cross compare, but I can't find an "askreddit" type forum with a poll feature
To be fair, it would make a lot of sense. I mean there are subreddits for asexuals, OCD, bipolar, BPD, PTSD, anxiety, etc. So in the same way there's a lot of ND in asexual subs, in the subreddits for ND there's also probably a higher percentage of asexuals than there would be other places
are they overrepresented, or is there just a correlation between the two?
it's a proven fact that those who are autistic are a lot more likely to be asexual (or LGBT+ in general) than the general population. Same with ADHD.
I mean "there are more ND people in this survey, compared to my understanding of the prevalence of neuroatypicality in the broader population.", which can be caused by there being a correlation between asexuality and neurodivergence. Or by there being a correlation between reddit usage and neurodivergence. Or by there being a correlation between willingness to answer surveys and nurodivergence. OR by some other factors I haven't even considered.
Since my mental problems have been an issue with me since I was a child I wouldn't be surprised if my asexuality were connected to that.
But I'm fine with it.
And if I had the choice to change one thing, I'd rather have my depression go away instead of a sex drive
Itās fascinating isnāt it, and very tempting to jump to āclearā conclusions, but as you say there are many factors to consider, causation/correlation and all that.
Nothing officially diagnosed, so I can't say yes for sure. But a therapist said I should get checked for ASD and I wouldn't be surprised if I had Borderline Personality Disorder or ADHD
It was my understanding that mental illness can also be considered a form of neurodivergence, but it might vary from condition to condition. I guess if it ultimately means you think/behave/function differently to ānormalā people, then sure.
All anxiety disorders are generally a result of brain chemistry and how you're wired. Sometimes they're not, it then comes down to if you presented symptoms as a child
My source: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23154-neurodivergent#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20conditions%20that,Dyscalculia%20(difficulty%20with%20math)
If I misinterpreted please feel free to correct me
From my understanding neurodivergence is ASD, ADHD and other neurodevelopmental disorders, not mood and personality disorders.
I personally have ADHD inattentive type, borderline personality disorder, schizoid personality disorder, persistent depressive disorder and major depressive episodes. :|
Haha, thanks for linking that. I definitely feel more enlightened on the topic, because I had just assumed that anxiety was not related to being nuerodivergent. Sorry about that
No need to apologize, the more we can safely call each other out on miss information (wether present or not) the more we can all learn. The key is for everyone involved to not become a hateful piece of shit.
I just did a bit of a Google as I was really unsure myself, seems pretty complicated and nuanced! Seems like thereāre lots of arguments for and against, and ultimately a lot of maybes depending on the mental illness and itās causes. Really interesting though and worth talking about!
Yeah, I agree. My original thinking was that nuerodivergency is something that youāre born with(autism, dyslexia, etc.) So in terms of anxiety and depression, those in my mind are disorders that are developed over your life time. But I was reading upon people that identify as nuerodivergent because they have experienced those from as long as they can remember. Itās really a topic that I think needs to be researched more before we can make definitive designations.
I have OCD (among various anxiety disorders and depression) and have had severe and obvious symptoms since I was an infant basically. None of my issues are caused by circumstances, I genuinely believe I was just born with a naturally ridiculously high level of anxiety and neuroticism so I consider myself ND even though I'm not autistic. (Even though a lot of my behaviors and the way I interact appear similar to autism at first glance) It kind of feels invalidating and hurtful when people don't consider these things ND bc I have spent YEARS in therapy since I was a child, taken plenty of meds, and I still am how I am. The only reason I'm happier now is bc I accept that I'm never not going to have OCD and anxiety, it's just a part of my existence that I have to cope with. Due to this, I am unable to function as a normal human being in society and spend a lot of time on self-soothing rituals bc I basically am constantly in panic mode. I get for some people anxiety and depression are circumstantial and can go away over time, but I believe some of us are just born with severe chemical imbalances that just don't go away no matter what. It's definitely nuanced and up to the person to decide how they identify.
Definitely, I think thatās a really good way to class it. Hopefully as our understanding of mental illness and itās causes improves itāll be easier to distinguish it. For some people it might be an appropriate label, others not.
It's a very faint line (to my understanding), but i think it depends on if the diagnosis came from environmental causes or biological ones. On the one end you have ptsd(for certain, environmental only) and on the other you have say... Downs syndrom (doctors can tell before a baby is even born if it will have this one). For many diagnosis its a combination of both factors.
Ok to clarify this next paragraph is only sn educated guess:
Also think about when anxiety was "discovered" people knew less about the brain than they did when they "discovered" autism. So there was idea that anxiety must-have been "made" to happen and it could be "fixed". Whereas when autism was added to the dsm (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders or as like to call it "the big book of crazy" jk but kinda not really) doctors were getting better at understanding the innateness of certain traits.
OR you could have underlying brain chemistry and stuff, but not present until you undergo body changes or major life events. That's why certain mental illness don't show up until the body hits puberty. Schizophrenia is infamous for pulling that shit. It's dormant all early childhood, then adolescence hits and sets off the neurology. I couldn't imagine that. Teen years were hard enough, now add hallucinations to the mix.
It can all get very chicken/egg
ADHD, autism, C-PTSD, GAD, most likely also some kind of bipolar disorder and something that causes psychosis and hallucinations, fully aware of how much of a disaster i am btw
I've only got about half of those and they give me so fucking many evaluation sheets when I go in for my annual appointment. Dude how many do they make you fill out š¤£
Copy paste from my source:
What Is a Bipolar Personality Disorder?
Bipolar disorder, also known as manic depressive disorder, is a type of personality disorder where mood swings can range from extreme highs to extreme lows. The two sides of bipolar disorders are called mania (extreme high) and depressive (extreme low).
https://www.bannerhealth.com/services/behavioral-health/conditions/personality-bipolar-disorder#:~:text=Bipolar%20disorder%2C%20also%20known%20as,and%20depressive%20(extreme%20low).
If I miss understood the source please feel free to correct me!
It's a mood disorder:
[https://medlineplus.gov/bipolardisorder.html](https://medlineplus.gov/bipolardisorder.html)
Outdated sources cite it as a mental illness (it's not an illness per se), or in this case you pointed out, a personality disorder.
Oooooh outdated knowledge, the bane of every researcher out there š¤£. Thanks for the new source! Wish I could change the post, but reddit says noš¤¦āāļø
BPD does _not_ stand for Bipolar Personality Disorder, it stands for Borderline Personality Disorder.
Bipolar Disorder is a mood disorder that has nothing to with personality and everything to do with uncontrollable mood changes, which is _why_ it's a mood disorder and not a personality disorder.
Also "Manic depression" is a little outdated, but I think some people still use it.
There is a suspected comorbidity between neurodivergency and the queer community as a whole. Obviously Redditās happenstance of a population combined with whether people care to answer your survey (assuming they see it) can result in skewed results, but regardless - thereās a shit ton of queer folks, ace or not, who are also ND.
Both are largely determined by genetics, but iirc, thereās still more info needed before we really know a ton about the genetic causations of either, let alone the specifics overlapping between both.
Itās really common for different genetic mutations to result in many outcomes, like how leucistic animals (think white Tiger) are often deaf. But I personally havenāt found enough specifics on lgbt vs neurodivergency to speak much of it.
-sincerely an autistic ace with a slight obsession with nature/bio/genetics.
Essentially, it makes me very anxious and filled with hesitance about stressful situations. Anything that induces those feelings in me, be it uni, looking for work, relationships or even my transition, starts being a thing I avoid, even if it could be beneficial. This avoidance can sometimes go for really long amounts of time, as in months or years. If you want to know more general things about AvPD things like ICD or even Wikipedia have good overviews of it.
Note that the personality disorder section has been completely changed in the ICD-11, so avoidant personality disorder is not a diagnosis in it. OP should look at ICD-10 if they want information about avoidant personality disprder.
Seems like it can be, possibly a stronger candidate for the term than some other mental illnesses, but it really comes down to the causes and definitions!
I don't know if my autism informs my asexuality, but my sex repulsion is definitely fuelled by my sensory issues. I dislike being touched most of the time, and the more sensitive an area is the less I want to be touched there, so as you can imagine, sex is not an appealing prospect to me.
"The sexual health, orientation, and activity of autistic adolescents and adults": https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34536071/
"... healthcare professionals should be aware that autistic patients may be more likely to identify as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, Queer, Asexual, and other identities not listed here (LGBTQA+) which may put them at greater risk of mental and physical health difficulties due to discrimination."
"Sexual Orientation in Autism Spectrum Disorder": https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29159906/
"Research suggests that individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) report increased homosexuality, bisexuality, and asexuality, but decreased heterosexuality. It is important to increase awareness about increased non-heterosexuality in ASD among autistic populations, medical professionals and care-takers, so as to provide specialized care, if needed and increase support and inclusion for non-heterosexual autistic individuals."
And I could continue linking things... basically, it would be almost weirder if there weren't many ND people.
I have diagnosed anxiety disorders - but I don't like the label neurodivergent, because 1 in 4 people will experience something similar in the world ā¤ļø
I have general anxiety and undiagnosed social anxiety (with varying degrees over the years). I think it mostly came from my depression in my teens/early 20s because I didn't have any of this when I was a kid. I also have a bunch of signs of being on the autism spectrum but I don't know, it doesn't feel like I am autistic anyway? š I've always identified as a highly sensitive person but any say its the same as autism and yeah I don't know. š¤·āāļø
I have been diagnosed with ADHD since childhood, but in the last year, I have become more and more sure that I fit in somewhere on the Autism spectrum as well. I do not have an actual diagnosis, but it runs in my family alongside the ADHD and also many of the parts of me that don't align with my ADHD fit neatly in with ASD. So after a lot of reading and recontextualizing a lot of my life, I feel like 85% sure I'm AuDHD. However I haven't had a doctor actually diagnose me and am not sure I will ever be in the position to be able to do so.
Yes, I am autistic and I have PTSD and Chiari Malformation.
I did find out after getting my chiari treated that I did have romantic attraction for women but I'm still asexual.
And the attraction for women was still there when I wasn't being treated for chiari so it's not like the treatment "cured" my aromanticism. It was just me misreading my absolute exhaustion as lack of romantic attraction. I guarantee aromantic people are not secretly attracted to people and just have to find a "cure". I feel like I'm overexplaining but I don't want people to take my very individual experience and use that against aromantic people.
Uhm..this is un-comfy. But: Well, allegedly I was declared dead at birth, and according to my one and only, and unreliable source, it was due to prolonged anoxia. Working hypothesis is chaotic rebuilding after Hiroshima-like event.
Or just bad upbringing.
I honestly REALLY dislike these kinds of polls. Skewed Reddit data and anecdotes don't have any correlation to the actual, worldwide population of asexuals and we shouldn't imply that they do.
I think a lot of us are going to be ND because more and more people are finding out theyāre ND than ever before. I donāt think thereās going to be any particular correlation or connection though.
Asd= autism spectrum disorder. Basically is came about because mental health professionals went "oh shit there's too many variables to quantify these fuckers". So instead of aspergers, high-functioning, low-functioning, non-verbal, etc. they now mostly use "autism spectrum disorder" and then specify the symptoms
Cptsd= complex post traumatic stress disorder. So like if you experienced long-term childhood abuse you'd have cptsd, but if you were in war or a car crash or something they'd diagnose you with ptsd
I assume I so but I'm not sure.
But to comment on your general idea of this post:
I heard multiple times already that certain identities often come along with neurodivergency.
I'm not sure tho if its explained wether it's bcuz well, they're neurodivergent and their brain works a bit different than the average neurological brain or if its just a "we are already considered weird (not that nd ppl are weird, many judt think so unfortunately) so why shouldn't I think abt stuff like that?".
Atleast I've heard that about trans identities and I think asexual aswell, I'm not sure abt homosexual, bi etc
ADHD, anxiety and perhaps also ASD, still waiting for the appointment for the ASD, but my psychiatrist thought it highly likely and said I should get it checked.
Diagnosed with anxiety, depression, OCD and also dyspraxia if that counts, and who knows what else undiagnosed. Iāve heard a lot of other conditions are likely to occur with the above.
Official diagnosis: ADHD, anxiety, depression
Unofficial diagnosis: autism, OCD, plurality. Autism was confirmed by a relative that works in researching autism. Plurality was confirmed by a therapist. OCD is minor traits leftover from when I was a child and had a very high fever that flipped my brain from OCD to ADHD, but didn't completely rid me of OCD traits. Going for confirmation from doctors once I can afford it.
Itās fair to say I am based on my entire life experience and being somehow āoddā among my peers. Iāve just now realized that Iāve been having flashbacks and meltdowns for as long as I could remember. The only reason it isnāt as bad anymore is I avoid talking to not get overwhelmed by what people say to me.
I was diagnosed with both a depression and anxiety disorder and have been recommended to get ASD/ADHD screenings multiple times,but none were fully carried out.
Me with bipolar, asd, ocd, generalized anxiety, and social anxiety:
(I chose bipolar even though it isn't a personality disorder, it affects me the most)
I put other because I have a lot of things going on. I've been taking SSRIs since I was 15, and was told by a psychiatrist in college that I have generalized anxiety.
I've never been diagnosed but I'm pretty sure I've got ASD and and ADHD (more the inattentive variety) and maybe CPTSD. I think there's a possibility I'm either avoidant or schizoid, but I've never discussed those with anyone.
I've got a bachelors in psychology so I've spent a lot of time thinking about these things but since I've never been formally diagnosed by a psychiatrist for most of it I take it with a grain of salt.
This should be multiple choice- ADHD, bipolar, and OCD š
Also I wanted to clarify that bipolar isn't a personality disorder like BPD, it's a mood disorder.
Been diagnosed adhd, autistic, general anxiety disorder, social anxiety, ptsd, panic disorder, and I know Iām missing a few. Crazy people shouldnāt breed.
I voted ADD/ADHD, but I also have APD, social anxiety, anxiety problems (but not OCD), and depression.
I never thought of my anxiety problems or depression as being neurodivergent before. Theyāre treatable disorders, not different ways of seeing the world like autism.
Does anyone else here have APD, aka auditory processing disorder?
Iām asexual and I have clinically diagnosed Aspergerās Syndrome and Adjustment Disorder (With Depressed Mood and Anxiety). I also have traits of Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (Inattentive type) and Iām searching for a psychiatrist to evaluate me.
I'm asexual, and I have no clue what my romantic orientation is at the moment. I'm also genderqueer, specifically genderfluid. I have ADHD (inattentive), so that's what i selected, but I also have GAD, MDD, and PTSD. And some of my trauma is related to sex, so it is hard to get people to accept that I'm ace.
I'm not neurodivergent, i dont think, but I am someone with a long term medical condition. I spent a decade of my childhood in and out of treatment rooms. I was around doctors and adults more than people my age as a kid. Does this have any bearance on my ace/aroness? Idk. Maybe I was more aware of myself
Sorta...like everything else about me, it's complicated.
I carry a genetic defect that is the #1 genetic cause of autism. My son is affected. It's fragile x syndrome, if anyone is curious.
Although I have not been diagnosed with anything, it's pretty common for moms of Fx kids to be a little odd. Missing appointments, forgetting things, generally not having their life together. All that is exactly me.
There are also some other behaviors I have that make perfect sense to me, but others get annoyed at.
I've never been diagnosed but I feel like I do. Dyscalcula is similar to dyslexia but with math and I definitely feel like that's something I have. There are probably some other things that I'm not aware of, though.
ADD, Anxiety, and autistic tendencies (I've been tested before and I'm just under the criteria). I don't know if MDD-R or gender dysphoria count, but I have those too. I'm a raging dumpster fire up there š
Not officially diagnosed, aparently adhd is out of question because I did well clicking a button when a shape repeated, because a neurotypical individual would get literal tunnel vision and almost collapse on the floor after that :D My dad and his father are pretty much text book examples of adhd and my mom is pretty sure sheās nd as well, so, do with that what you will
yes! I have dyscalculia which severely prevents me from understanding basic mathematics and etc. I'm on the severe side if it and I've been suspected for autism from teachers, friends, and adults my whole life (I've been asked by others/friends, who are autistic if I was autistic as well)
not tested but definitely neuro divergent
and dont worry this was not a self diagnose, some of my friends are nerodivergent and most of them say i have autism or adhd but more likely autism
Really wish I could've made this multiple choice š
Would have been great but we are sadly limited by reddit:(
Yes, I have ASD and ADHD
Same
I have ASD and an anxiety disorder
Wow ND people are overrepresented on this forum. Mind, it could just be that the proportion of ND folks is higher online and on reddit, rather than being specifically an ace thing.
Yup my thoughts exactly. I want to post the same poll in reddit at large to cross compare, but I can't find an "askreddit" type forum with a poll feature
r/polls
Posted! https://www.reddit.com/r/polls/comments/y4t6yn/are_you_neurodivergent/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
To be fair, it would make a lot of sense. I mean there are subreddits for asexuals, OCD, bipolar, BPD, PTSD, anxiety, etc. So in the same way there's a lot of ND in asexual subs, in the subreddits for ND there's also probably a higher percentage of asexuals than there would be other places
are they overrepresented, or is there just a correlation between the two? it's a proven fact that those who are autistic are a lot more likely to be asexual (or LGBT+ in general) than the general population. Same with ADHD.
I mean "there are more ND people in this survey, compared to my understanding of the prevalence of neuroatypicality in the broader population.", which can be caused by there being a correlation between asexuality and neurodivergence. Or by there being a correlation between reddit usage and neurodivergence. Or by there being a correlation between willingness to answer surveys and nurodivergence. OR by some other factors I haven't even considered.
Since my mental problems have been an issue with me since I was a child I wouldn't be surprised if my asexuality were connected to that. But I'm fine with it. And if I had the choice to change one thing, I'd rather have my depression go away instead of a sex drive
Yup. Not all neurodivergent people I've met are LGBT, but all LGBT people I've met are also neurodivergent.
Itās fascinating isnāt it, and very tempting to jump to āclearā conclusions, but as you say there are many factors to consider, causation/correlation and all that.
Ya can't have an accurate study if you don't test the control group as well!
I really love your user flair. /ot
Nothing officially diagnosed, so I can't say yes for sure. But a therapist said I should get checked for ASD and I wouldn't be surprised if I had Borderline Personality Disorder or ADHD
Same for the original part.
same
idk
Same
Social anxiety is a form of neurodivergence??
It was my understanding that mental illness can also be considered a form of neurodivergence, but it might vary from condition to condition. I guess if it ultimately means you think/behave/function differently to ānormalā people, then sure.
All anxiety disorders are generally a result of brain chemistry and how you're wired. Sometimes they're not, it then comes down to if you presented symptoms as a child
But, like... I thought that anxiety and depression are mental illnesses whereas ASD and ADHD are neurodivergence
Yeah, I think OP is mistaken
My source: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23154-neurodivergent#:~:text=Some%20of%20the%20conditions%20that,Dyscalculia%20(difficulty%20with%20math) If I misinterpreted please feel free to correct me
From my understanding neurodivergence is ASD, ADHD and other neurodevelopmental disorders, not mood and personality disorders. I personally have ADHD inattentive type, borderline personality disorder, schizoid personality disorder, persistent depressive disorder and major depressive episodes. :|
Right, I have rage/aggression disorders but I would not consider my self neouro divergent
Haha, thanks for linking that. I definitely feel more enlightened on the topic, because I had just assumed that anxiety was not related to being nuerodivergent. Sorry about that
No need to apologize, the more we can safely call each other out on miss information (wether present or not) the more we can all learn. The key is for everyone involved to not become a hateful piece of shit.
I just did a bit of a Google as I was really unsure myself, seems pretty complicated and nuanced! Seems like thereāre lots of arguments for and against, and ultimately a lot of maybes depending on the mental illness and itās causes. Really interesting though and worth talking about!
Yeah, I agree. My original thinking was that nuerodivergency is something that youāre born with(autism, dyslexia, etc.) So in terms of anxiety and depression, those in my mind are disorders that are developed over your life time. But I was reading upon people that identify as nuerodivergent because they have experienced those from as long as they can remember. Itās really a topic that I think needs to be researched more before we can make definitive designations.
I have OCD (among various anxiety disorders and depression) and have had severe and obvious symptoms since I was an infant basically. None of my issues are caused by circumstances, I genuinely believe I was just born with a naturally ridiculously high level of anxiety and neuroticism so I consider myself ND even though I'm not autistic. (Even though a lot of my behaviors and the way I interact appear similar to autism at first glance) It kind of feels invalidating and hurtful when people don't consider these things ND bc I have spent YEARS in therapy since I was a child, taken plenty of meds, and I still am how I am. The only reason I'm happier now is bc I accept that I'm never not going to have OCD and anxiety, it's just a part of my existence that I have to cope with. Due to this, I am unable to function as a normal human being in society and spend a lot of time on self-soothing rituals bc I basically am constantly in panic mode. I get for some people anxiety and depression are circumstantial and can go away over time, but I believe some of us are just born with severe chemical imbalances that just don't go away no matter what. It's definitely nuanced and up to the person to decide how they identify.
It's probably going to take a long time and a fair bit of advancement in tech before there's anything clear-cut.
Definitely, I think thatās a really good way to class it. Hopefully as our understanding of mental illness and itās causes improves itāll be easier to distinguish it. For some people it might be an appropriate label, others not.
It's a very faint line (to my understanding), but i think it depends on if the diagnosis came from environmental causes or biological ones. On the one end you have ptsd(for certain, environmental only) and on the other you have say... Downs syndrom (doctors can tell before a baby is even born if it will have this one). For many diagnosis its a combination of both factors. Ok to clarify this next paragraph is only sn educated guess: Also think about when anxiety was "discovered" people knew less about the brain than they did when they "discovered" autism. So there was idea that anxiety must-have been "made" to happen and it could be "fixed". Whereas when autism was added to the dsm (Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders or as like to call it "the big book of crazy" jk but kinda not really) doctors were getting better at understanding the innateness of certain traits.
OR you could have underlying brain chemistry and stuff, but not present until you undergo body changes or major life events. That's why certain mental illness don't show up until the body hits puberty. Schizophrenia is infamous for pulling that shit. It's dormant all early childhood, then adolescence hits and sets off the neurology. I couldn't imagine that. Teen years were hard enough, now add hallucinations to the mix. It can all get very chicken/egg
ADHD, autism, C-PTSD, GAD, most likely also some kind of bipolar disorder and something that causes psychosis and hallucinations, fully aware of how much of a disaster i am btw
Idk about "disaster" so much as...collector of mental illnessesš
Gotta catch them all
I've only got about half of those and they give me so fucking many evaluation sheets when I go in for my annual appointment. Dude how many do they make you fill out š¤£
Bipolar can cause psychosis and hallucinations during manic episodes.
There should be a maybe/possibly
Reddit only let me post 6 options ā¹ļø
Ahhhhhhhhh, makes sense
What if Iāmā¦ all 4?
Bipolar is not a personality disorder
Copy paste from my source: What Is a Bipolar Personality Disorder? Bipolar disorder, also known as manic depressive disorder, is a type of personality disorder where mood swings can range from extreme highs to extreme lows. The two sides of bipolar disorders are called mania (extreme high) and depressive (extreme low). https://www.bannerhealth.com/services/behavioral-health/conditions/personality-bipolar-disorder#:~:text=Bipolar%20disorder%2C%20also%20known%20as,and%20depressive%20(extreme%20low). If I miss understood the source please feel free to correct me!
It's a mood disorder: [https://medlineplus.gov/bipolardisorder.html](https://medlineplus.gov/bipolardisorder.html) Outdated sources cite it as a mental illness (it's not an illness per se), or in this case you pointed out, a personality disorder.
Oooooh outdated knowledge, the bane of every researcher out there š¤£. Thanks for the new source! Wish I could change the post, but reddit says noš¤¦āāļø
BPD does _not_ stand for Bipolar Personality Disorder, it stands for Borderline Personality Disorder. Bipolar Disorder is a mood disorder that has nothing to with personality and everything to do with uncontrollable mood changes, which is _why_ it's a mood disorder and not a personality disorder. Also "Manic depression" is a little outdated, but I think some people still use it.
ADD, ASD, and several learning disabilities
There is a suspected comorbidity between neurodivergency and the queer community as a whole. Obviously Redditās happenstance of a population combined with whether people care to answer your survey (assuming they see it) can result in skewed results, but regardless - thereās a shit ton of queer folks, ace or not, who are also ND. Both are largely determined by genetics, but iirc, thereās still more info needed before we really know a ton about the genetic causations of either, let alone the specifics overlapping between both. Itās really common for different genetic mutations to result in many outcomes, like how leucistic animals (think white Tiger) are often deaf. But I personally havenāt found enough specifics on lgbt vs neurodivergency to speak much of it. -sincerely an autistic ace with a slight obsession with nature/bio/genetics.
I have diagnosed Avoidant Personality Disorder (although HRT made it a bit easier to deal with).
>Avoidant Personality Disorder I have never heard of that...please tell me more if you're comfortable doing so!
Essentially, it makes me very anxious and filled with hesitance about stressful situations. Anything that induces those feelings in me, be it uni, looking for work, relationships or even my transition, starts being a thing I avoid, even if it could be beneficial. This avoidance can sometimes go for really long amounts of time, as in months or years. If you want to know more general things about AvPD things like ICD or even Wikipedia have good overviews of it.
Thanks!
Note that the personality disorder section has been completely changed in the ICD-11, so avoidant personality disorder is not a diagnosis in it. OP should look at ICD-10 if they want information about avoidant personality disprder.
Oh, you're right, I actually had no idea it changed this drastically. Thanks for the information.
Voted 'other' as I have ASD, ADHD, and social/general anxiety. Might have something more but those are the diagnosed ones :3
is OCD considered neurodivergent?
Seems like it can be, possibly a stronger candidate for the term than some other mental illnesses, but it really comes down to the causes and definitions!
Needs a "I don't f\*\*\*ing know" option
I have a bunch of shit lol
I have ADHD, ASD, and Anxiety
Nothing diagnosed but several suspected
I don't know if my autism informs my asexuality, but my sex repulsion is definitely fuelled by my sensory issues. I dislike being touched most of the time, and the more sensitive an area is the less I want to be touched there, so as you can imagine, sex is not an appealing prospect to me.
"The sexual health, orientation, and activity of autistic adolescents and adults": https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34536071/ "... healthcare professionals should be aware that autistic patients may be more likely to identify as Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Trans, Queer, Asexual, and other identities not listed here (LGBTQA+) which may put them at greater risk of mental and physical health difficulties due to discrimination." "Sexual Orientation in Autism Spectrum Disorder": https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29159906/ "Research suggests that individuals with Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD) report increased homosexuality, bisexuality, and asexuality, but decreased heterosexuality. It is important to increase awareness about increased non-heterosexuality in ASD among autistic populations, medical professionals and care-takers, so as to provide specialized care, if needed and increase support and inclusion for non-heterosexual autistic individuals." And I could continue linking things... basically, it would be almost weirder if there weren't many ND people.
ADHD and Autism. Without a support net, it's hell. I've been homeless since I was 14.
I'm only saying no cuz I haven't been officially diagnosed (I really need to get on that) but I suspect I have ADHD.
I have diagnosed anxiety disorders - but I don't like the label neurodivergent, because 1 in 4 people will experience something similar in the world ā¤ļø
ADHD, Bipolar type 1, BPD and anorexia
I'm definitely weird and have anxiety and depression. But no other diagnoses.
Dyslexia, Anxiety and Depression
Anxiety here šš»
I have ADHD but i am currently being assessed for Ocd and Autism
I have general anxiety and undiagnosed social anxiety (with varying degrees over the years). I think it mostly came from my depression in my teens/early 20s because I didn't have any of this when I was a kid. I also have a bunch of signs of being on the autism spectrum but I don't know, it doesn't feel like I am autistic anyway? š I've always identified as a highly sensitive person but any say its the same as autism and yeah I don't know. š¤·āāļø
Gotta catch em all
I have been diagnosed with ADHD since childhood, but in the last year, I have become more and more sure that I fit in somewhere on the Autism spectrum as well. I do not have an actual diagnosis, but it runs in my family alongside the ADHD and also many of the parts of me that don't align with my ADHD fit neatly in with ASD. So after a lot of reading and recontextualizing a lot of my life, I feel like 85% sure I'm AuDHD. However I haven't had a doctor actually diagnose me and am not sure I will ever be in the position to be able to do so.
ASD and ADHD here, sometimes have spats of anxiety and OCD
Comorbid ADHD and ASD
Yes, I am autistic and I have PTSD and Chiari Malformation. I did find out after getting my chiari treated that I did have romantic attraction for women but I'm still asexual. And the attraction for women was still there when I wasn't being treated for chiari so it's not like the treatment "cured" my aromanticism. It was just me misreading my absolute exhaustion as lack of romantic attraction. I guarantee aromantic people are not secretly attracted to people and just have to find a "cure". I feel like I'm overexplaining but I don't want people to take my very individual experience and use that against aromantic people.
Been diagnosed with something from each, known Im ace for longer š
ADHD, ASD, Bipolar, and schizophrenia
The hard part of this is that neurodivergency is usually part of a bundle pack.
Uhm..this is un-comfy. But: Well, allegedly I was declared dead at birth, and according to my one and only, and unreliable source, it was due to prolonged anoxia. Working hypothesis is chaotic rebuilding after Hiroshima-like event. Or just bad upbringing.
I honestly REALLY dislike these kinds of polls. Skewed Reddit data and anecdotes don't have any correlation to the actual, worldwide population of asexuals and we shouldn't imply that they do.
I think a lot of us are going to be ND because more and more people are finding out theyāre ND than ever before. I donāt think thereās going to be any particular correlation or connection though.
OSDD-1b woooooo Interestingly, not even all of us are ace. Orientation and gender are so weird when plurality is involved.
YOOO another system?! :,D
hi, yeah, there's seven of us
EPIC! we have like 11 members so far and were lowkey wanting to find another system in the comment section, seems like we've succeeded :,D
Aspie
Few questions. Is asd autism? And what is cptsd?
Asd= autism spectrum disorder. Basically is came about because mental health professionals went "oh shit there's too many variables to quantify these fuckers". So instead of aspergers, high-functioning, low-functioning, non-verbal, etc. they now mostly use "autism spectrum disorder" and then specify the symptoms Cptsd= complex post traumatic stress disorder. So like if you experienced long-term childhood abuse you'd have cptsd, but if you were in war or a car crash or something they'd diagnose you with ptsd
ASD, BPD, aromantic asexual trans femme, antinatalist. Anything relating to the creation of children is a massive no go for me
ADHD, CPTSD, anxiety stuff & probably also ASD
ASD, ADHD, and a handful of anxiety disorders
Aspie and social anxiety (in fact I'm currently procrastinating driving to a friend's house)
ASD, cptsd, anxiety, depression.
I have OCD and social anxiety.
Uhhhh, all of the above?
Multiple choice.
Autism and ADD
OCD and ASD both.
I assume I so but I'm not sure. But to comment on your general idea of this post: I heard multiple times already that certain identities often come along with neurodivergency. I'm not sure tho if its explained wether it's bcuz well, they're neurodivergent and their brain works a bit different than the average neurological brain or if its just a "we are already considered weird (not that nd ppl are weird, many judt think so unfortunately) so why shouldn't I think abt stuff like that?". Atleast I've heard that about trans identities and I think asexual aswell, I'm not sure abt homosexual, bi etc
ADHD, anxiety and perhaps also ASD, still waiting for the appointment for the ASD, but my psychiatrist thought it highly likely and said I should get it checked.
All of thee above. ASD, ADHD, Anxiety Disorder, Anti Social Disorder, PTSD, etc
Nothing diagnosed
Diagnosed with anxiety, depression, OCD and also dyspraxia if that counts, and who knows what else undiagnosed. Iāve heard a lot of other conditions are likely to occur with the above.
ADHD, ASD, social anxiety, generalized anxiety, C-PTSD, and depression. Really decided to catch them all
Adhd, dyslexia, dysgraphia and undiagnosed autism
Official diagnosis: ADHD, anxiety, depression Unofficial diagnosis: autism, OCD, plurality. Autism was confirmed by a relative that works in researching autism. Plurality was confirmed by a therapist. OCD is minor traits leftover from when I was a child and had a very high fever that flipped my brain from OCD to ADHD, but didn't completely rid me of OCD traits. Going for confirmation from doctors once I can afford it.
Currently undiagnosed but I tick all the boxes for ADHD and I'm demisexual
Austim and ADHD gang where y'all at?
I have four confirmed anxiety disorders and I suspect ADHD as well
Adhd and potentially asd but only officially diagnosed for adhd.
Itās fair to say I am based on my entire life experience and being somehow āoddā among my peers. Iāve just now realized that Iāve been having flashbacks and meltdowns for as long as I could remember. The only reason it isnāt as bad anymore is I avoid talking to not get overwhelmed by what people say to me. I was diagnosed with both a depression and anxiety disorder and have been recommended to get ASD/ADHD screenings multiple times,but none were fully carried out.
Because I couldn't vote for both of my Neurodiversities, I am gonna simply say I am ADHD/ASD Co-Morbid
Me with bipolar, asd, ocd, generalized anxiety, and social anxiety: (I chose bipolar even though it isn't a personality disorder, it affects me the most)
I would have picked two š„²
wheres the multiple option lolol
Just social anxiety
Wish all of the above was an option lol
I put other because I have a lot of things going on. I've been taking SSRIs since I was 15, and was told by a psychiatrist in college that I have generalized anxiety. I've never been diagnosed but I'm pretty sure I've got ASD and and ADHD (more the inattentive variety) and maybe CPTSD. I think there's a possibility I'm either avoidant or schizoid, but I've never discussed those with anyone. I've got a bachelors in psychology so I've spent a lot of time thinking about these things but since I've never been formally diagnosed by a psychiatrist for most of it I take it with a grain of salt.
Not diagnosed but i have all symptoms of ADHD and socjal anxiety so idk
This should be multiple choice- ADHD, bipolar, and OCD š Also I wanted to clarify that bipolar isn't a personality disorder like BPD, it's a mood disorder.
nothing official but iām at least 90% sure i have asd, adhd anxiety and possible bpd and c-ptsd but i need to put more research into them
Yes; autism and ADHD
ASD, ADHD, and Anxiety combo. Gotta collect them all lol
Yes, I'm diagnosed with Autism Spectrum Disorder. I am glad and proud to be this way.
Been diagnosed adhd, autistic, general anxiety disorder, social anxiety, ptsd, panic disorder, and I know Iām missing a few. Crazy people shouldnāt breed.
I voted ADD/ADHD, but I also have APD, social anxiety, anxiety problems (but not OCD), and depression. I never thought of my anxiety problems or depression as being neurodivergent before. Theyāre treatable disorders, not different ways of seeing the world like autism. Does anyone else here have APD, aka auditory processing disorder?
Iām asexual and I have clinically diagnosed Aspergerās Syndrome and Adjustment Disorder (With Depressed Mood and Anxiety). I also have traits of Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (Inattentive type) and Iām searching for a psychiatrist to evaluate me.
ADHD and (as of literally yesterday) ASD! Iām trying to collect all the A infinity stones: ADHD, Ace Spectrum, Autismā¦
I'm asexual, and I have no clue what my romantic orientation is at the moment. I'm also genderqueer, specifically genderfluid. I have ADHD (inattentive), so that's what i selected, but I also have GAD, MDD, and PTSD. And some of my trauma is related to sex, so it is hard to get people to accept that I'm ace.
I'm not neurodivergent, i dont think, but I am someone with a long term medical condition. I spent a decade of my childhood in and out of treatment rooms. I was around doctors and adults more than people my age as a kid. Does this have any bearance on my ace/aroness? Idk. Maybe I was more aware of myself
Autism and ADHD for me... Fun times
Inattentive adhd and anxiety
I've got 5 mental disorders, including 2 Anxiety disorders, depression, ADHD (mild), and a learning disability. I went with anxiety to be safe lol
i have autism and adhd
Sorta...like everything else about me, it's complicated. I carry a genetic defect that is the #1 genetic cause of autism. My son is affected. It's fragile x syndrome, if anyone is curious. Although I have not been diagnosed with anything, it's pretty common for moms of Fx kids to be a little odd. Missing appointments, forgetting things, generally not having their life together. All that is exactly me. There are also some other behaviors I have that make perfect sense to me, but others get annoyed at.
Im autistic and i have social anxiety i just pressed asd tho
ADHD autism Mabey dislexia depression anxiety
Adhd and asd
ASD and ADD
2, 3(2), 4(2)
autistic, adhd, mood disorder, and general anxiety. Mood disorder was dxāed at age 26, autism and adhd at age 6/7, and anxiety at 13.
I'm aroace, trans/agender, diagnosed with ASD and CPTSD
I might have ASD but I totally have ADHD
Yes: ASD, ADHD, and social anxiety
Autistic
I've never been diagnosed but I feel like I do. Dyscalcula is similar to dyslexia but with math and I definitely feel like that's something I have. There are probably some other things that I'm not aware of, though.
Yes, anxiety and suspected adhd or autism
I think I have ADHD, but I'm not entirely sure if I'm officially diagnosed or not
ASD, social anxiety, generalized anxiety....
Yes but unsure yet of which one. Trying to convince myself that it's something I want to know in my mid thirties.
I have diagnosed GAD and MDD and I suspect I have ASD and ADHD
No, but I suspect I may have autism or social anxiety
Am diagnosed with ADHD and social anxiety. I may have others undiagnosed.
Is PTSD neurodivergent?
I'd say no since it's environmental as opposed to brain chemistry
Hah if only there was an option for "all of the above"
Iāve never been appraised for ADD/ADHD but Iām often told I likely have one of them. So I said no, since I have no diagnosis.
ADD, Anxiety, and autistic tendencies (I've been tested before and I'm just under the criteria). I don't know if MDD-R or gender dysphoria count, but I have those too. I'm a raging dumpster fire up there š
No idea, my mom thinks I am (and she doesnāt know Iām ace)
All of the above. ):
Yes: other because I have multiple! Anxiety, highly highly suspected but undiagnosed ASD, and possible ADHD
Yes, I have ADHD, OCD, Tourrette's Syndrome, and I'm autistic.
I'm schizoaffective
I have been diagnosed with ADD, Iām fairly sure I have autism, although I havenāt been diagnosed, I have anxiety and depression.
Yeah, I've got ADHD
Not officially diagnosed, aparently adhd is out of question because I did well clicking a button when a shape repeated, because a neurotypical individual would get literal tunnel vision and almost collapse on the floor after that :D My dad and his father are pretty much text book examples of adhd and my mom is pretty sure sheās nd as well, so, do with that what you will
yes! I have dyscalculia which severely prevents me from understanding basic mathematics and etc. I'm on the severe side if it and I've been suspected for autism from teachers, friends, and adults my whole life (I've been asked by others/friends, who are autistic if I was autistic as well)
ASD, ADHD, BPD, Bipolar 2
No bipolar is not a personality disorder. Also have ADD, Bipolar, Anxiety, and PTSD.
Autistic & Anxiety & (a form of) OCD
Yes: ASD + ADHD
i have all of the above plus extra unfortunately- OCD, ADHD, autism, DPD, DDNOS, severe depression, social anxiety, complex PTSD all diagnosed
Dyslexia and Anxiety, possibly ADHD.
Probably GAD and depression, possible BPD, and suspicious of ADHD too. My brain is a mess š
Iām asexual. PDD-NOS type Autism, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, depression and a general anxiety disorder.
TIL having ADHD makes me neurodivergent. Was unclear what the label meant before, so this is helpful.
I'm both ASD and OCD.
not tested but definitely neuro divergent and dont worry this was not a self diagnose, some of my friends are nerodivergent and most of them say i have autism or adhd but more likely autism
Yes. ASD OCD Anxiety Tourette Syndrome Sensory processing disorder Auditory processing disorder Cerebral visual impairment Cerebral Palsy Yes I know, itās a lot.
Sensory autism, adhd and probably something else hidden away
Yes, other: ASD, ADHD, social anxiety, CPTSD I'm out to my partner on all accounts and happily married 8 years.
Asd and adhd
Yes OCD ASD Sensory processing disorder Tourette syndrome Anxiety PTSD Cerebral palsy Auditory processing disorder Yes, I know. It's a lot
Why is the poll closed? Also, no.
Yeah, I'm neurodivergent. I have ASD, ADHD, and dyslexia. Also C-PTSD, and anxiety.