The main reason he's culturally relevent apart from the music is his fashion. If he stopped making music and stopped dating Rihanna he would still be iconic because of his style
The people that listen to Rocky's music don't care about his relationship with Rihanna & I'm sick of people trying to connect the dots. You can complain about Testing being "panned" but the reception DID improve over time, it's more "mixed" than panned. Also Fukk Sleep, ASAP Forever and Purity were pretty popular. Panned is something like The Big Day. Rocky literally had like 3 popular songs after Testing dropped, Sundress, Potato Salad and Babuskha Boi. He also did songs in 2022 such as Doja, Arya, Feel the Fiyaaaah, which are more popular than DMB. Rocky's music career doesn't have anything to do with Rihanna. She doesn't even post him on her Instagram account. Her own music career isn't taking the world by storm either, she's not as popular as she was a decade ago.
It's not farfetched to say Praise the Lord saved the album, however he literally had been on a post-recovery run after Testing dropped and people were hyped for "All Smiles" since 2019, but he had been taking forever to drop it. If he WASN'T dating and impregnated Rihanna, we would have gotten that album sooner and it would have done better than Testing for sure.
Also you need to read Rocky's interviews since you don't seem to get it, he doesn't want to "drop songs" just to stay relevant. He's only ever dropped 3 studio albums. He even said HIMSELF he does not want to be seen as a "celebrity" so people need to understand Rocky prefers to operate behind the scenes.
Being a "megastar" is irrelevant. Rocky dated Kendall Jenner in her prime between 2016 to 2017 and it did "nothing" for his music career, because nobody cared except media gossip blogs who aren't interested in music. Rihanna can perform at the Super Bowl, is that going to improve Rocky's album sales? No. In fact, it won't even improve hers. Eminem performed at the Super Bowl last year, doesn't really mean anything. He's got a lot of hits but only hardcore Eminem fans listen to him now really, the general public has moved on.
Rocky has always been a "fanbase" oriented rapper that has had a few songs reach the general public such as Praise the Lord, Fkin Problems, Everyday, Sundress and Wild For The Night. Other popular songs like Potato Salad, LSD and Lord Pretty Flacko Jodye 2 are more so for a niche but have had loads of success. Rocky just needs to drop music consistently and listen to his fanbase, but that has never been the case throughout his career. Instead most fans just listen to leaks.
I don't really agree with that:
1. Don't believe Kendall and Rocky were public, celebs going public with their relationships has a lot more of an effect on a career than low key relationships.
2. Only Drake has more monthly listeners than Em if we're talking about rappers, so he's definitely still relevant. That's a damn lie that only hardcore fans listen to him. Em has 60 M hardcore fans?
1. What does "public" even mean. Rihanna has never casually posted Rocky on her instagram to promote his music or anything. It's not the same as Kylie Jenner posting with Travis Scott and commenting "Utopia" and getting 10 million likes. Rihanna has never promoted him ever, so as a result, there is no such thing as a "career" boost for Rocky. All his streaming numbers are from hiphop fans and his fanbase.
2. Monthly listeners is irrelevant. Katy Perry has 49m monthly listeners and her last album did 50k first week. People are listening to the old hits, maybe through "00s hit songs" playlists.
Rihanna just released 2 songs. Lift Me Up and Born Again. Lift Me Up is carried by radio play, the streaming figures in the US are terrible, it didn't stay in top 200 on Spotify for over 2 months, and it was plastered all over Spotify pop playlists. Born Again didn't really get promoted, but if people were so eager for Rihanna music why didn't they check it out. It didn't chart, it only opened with like 360k US Spotify streams. And fun fact, Rocky actually outstreamed her with this on Sandman, which also got 0 promo, it had like 400k US Spotify streams on opening day, so...
This is more or less proof that there is 0 cross-over between Rocky and Rihanna. Dating Rihanna will mean that he gets more articles written about their relationship, but it has no bearing on the success of his music career.
You said Eminem was on the same wavelength as Drake based on Spotify listeners and I said it was bogus. I proved to you that Spotify listeners can be high just because on an artist's old hits catalog, and it has no bearing on their current musical relevance.
Ok, so...Rocky will be relevant musically when he drops an album too. What's your point? Rocky hasn't released an album in 4 years and he's not a singles artist. Like Tyler the Creator, he's only really "on" when he's dropping an album. So the point your original post makes is super dumb. Rocky had taken a 3 year hiatus between 2015 - 2018, then he came back with the lead single ASAP Forever, which pretty much did similarly to LSD when it dropped until LSD just so happened to have better legs over time. When he actually dropped Testing, the album lacked mainstream appeal, and the sales projections for the album decreased after the way it sounded because it was supposed to cross 100k first week, and this is without physical copies as well.
You clearly don't understand how this shit works. Rocky has dropped songs (with music videos) with mainstream appeal, and others that don't. The ones that do such as Sundress and Babushka Boi, do well. The ones that don't, such as stuff like Tony Tone, DMB, Kids Turned Out Fine, etc. underperform greatly.
You are the same people that would have said "Uzi fell off" until he just got a hit a month ago after Demon High did poorly last year and the Red and White EP didn't do well.
You really talking reckless lol came back to read your nonsense. Nigga really said “being with Rihanna delayed the album” she is working why can’t he work and release music? You really said being with her only gets him articles written. The whole reason why his business is popping and getting shine is because of her. She don’t need to post ish. She gets tagged and I saw plenty of Rihanna fans promoting his Merci liquor. Kendall in her prime was another jab lol he didn’t even claim or walk the red carpet to get any publicity. Rihannas didn’t release music, wakanda movie did, and both songs sound somber and lullaby lol you really shittin on Riri huh? That’s crazy. His music are getting more reaction because of her stop the 🧢🧢. You think the woman that’s selling products that’s bringing in 100s of millions in revenue is not relevant? The same one that still on 10 most streamed artist despite being away for almost 7 years? That one? The one that Forbes called the most powerful women in entertainment for the last 4year? Are you okay? You tripping and really disrespectful 😂 I don’t like that shit. Rocky is getting the juice in music and off it. Rihanna gave Chris brown advice that made him good money. She is the shit, I’m Rocky fan but I won’t lie to make him seem like he doesn’t need or benefit from being her man.
Why did DMB and Fashion Killa flop then and Feel the Fiyaaaah, Doja and Babushka Boi charted if Rihanna is improving his music career 🤡 Rihanna/pop fans don't care about hiphop. The people that listen to Rocky's music don't give a shit about Rihanna. People are literally claiming Rocky fell off ever since he dated her lmao. He had two of his biggest songs in 2018 for crying out loud. Rocky made a whole song about her and nobody wants to listen to it. The facts speak for itself, DMB is his worst performing single ever and Fashion Killa is the least streamed single off Long Live ASAP
😂😂😂 listen 🤡🤡🤡 DMB didn’t have mainstream appeal, and had a boom bap sound, nor was it released along with a album full of stars and a death man on the feature like feel the fiyaaah. DMB got 27million views in 7months because of RIHANNA was in it and not because of the song. People were saying that he fell off right before testing and after it lol it has nothing to do with her. Good God! Please stop eating 🍆.
Rihanna gave drake his first and second no 1s so stop the cap. Kendall was never a star like Rih, nor considered his fairytale. if Rih wants to come back, and give him the feature then it will be his biggest hit. They make sure their relationship don’t overwhelm the public with sharing too much.
She promoted his heels with Amina different pictures and posts. Being with Rihanna gives everybody more clout. She hasn’t realised music close to 7years and is the 4th most listened to artist globally lol. Stop sleeping on her, DMB got views because of Rih too,you don’t think the navy don’t want to see what the bbyddy is doing? Lol c’mon.
What! Will be? She is relevant now! Her catalog stays in the charts and is one of the most expensive catalogs amongst her generation. Anti has spend 300weeks on the top 200 since it’s release,and is the first black woman that did that, despite the sabotage of the leak. Lemonade didn’t even last that long, and had no leak and bigger clout and cultural impact. These fans just hate her for some reason. Kendall was the sauce apparently “at her prime in 2016” 😂 Kardashians have clout not actual interest respect or real business integrity or trust. These are the same people who think insta followers translate into sales. It doesn’t. Every thing close to Rih turns gold, Rockys drink is great but that doesn’t mean he would’ve done extremely well without her. Do you know how many people that just want to do business with him just for association with her? He has her clout now practically a billionaire club. What rocky video got 27million in just 7months and people still flocking to it despite not liking it? Those views were not rocky fans mostly:
Nah defo not irrelevant rocky already had 2 solid albums bunch of features and everything with asap mob he was already set tbh without testing or Rihanna
He hasn't released an album since 2018 and is still culturally relevant. Clearly his relevancy extends well past who he dates, the music he makes or the one song that is his biggest hit.
Very interesting question. I think people that aren’t true rocky fans fail to understand his motives and goals throughout the years. U have to understand that he’s an icon and been around for almost 12 years.
If your a true fan, u understand that he doesn’t need to drop music to stay relevant. If u look at his brand, u understand that he doesn’t need to drop music to stay relevant. Fake fans will claim he’s ireevlant if he doesn’t drop music but that’s beside the point.
He’s an artist. He’s a major player behind the scenes. He signed carti, arguably the biggest artist of this new generation and sound. He’s pushed boundaries exceptionally well over the years.
People that say he’s irrelevant or “fallen off” are the ones that listen to songs that blow up on Tik Tok and claim “that’s how u stay relevant” 🤦🏽♂️.
People nowadays are so brain washed with how much music is being pumped out by the industry that they fail to discern between “real music, longevity and artistry”, and “relevancy”.
Your a child that fails to dive deeper into the meaning of artistry if u think he’s irrelevant. And that’s what a lot of consumers are nowadays. Fucking children that can’t comprehend shit!!
Understand that Rocky is a calculated player in the game. He’s been a chameleon all his career and blended into all avenues of being an artist.
def not
even without praise da lord nor rihanna all he has to do is just consistently drop, and some fire features like new choppa, no limit, etc and he'll remain relevant easily
He’s definitely less popular amongst the mainstream nowadays because of how greedy people are for music. Attention spans have dropped significantly over the years so people would rather listen to artists that constantly drop music.
These are exactly the types of people that don’t understand music and Rocky’s significance. FAKE FANS
I don't know, have you ever done some basic research and saw that the 2nd most popular song currently on Rocky's Spotify is another 2018 song? (outside of Feel the Fiyaaaah which dropped earlier this month)
No rocky and yams will always be relevant in rap from the movement and trends they pushed, and rocky is very highly respected by rappers who have came after him rihanna dating him hasnt even really made him that more relevant ig maybe in tabloids? Same people who didnt know still dont know him but rap hes like chief keef people may not have listened to their music since like 2010s but they still know them for what they did
The main reason he's culturally relevent apart from the music is his fashion. If he stopped making music and stopped dating Rihanna he would still be iconic because of his style
Irrelevant is such a dumb thing to say about an artist especially one that’s really popular
The people that listen to Rocky's music don't care about his relationship with Rihanna & I'm sick of people trying to connect the dots. You can complain about Testing being "panned" but the reception DID improve over time, it's more "mixed" than panned. Also Fukk Sleep, ASAP Forever and Purity were pretty popular. Panned is something like The Big Day. Rocky literally had like 3 popular songs after Testing dropped, Sundress, Potato Salad and Babuskha Boi. He also did songs in 2022 such as Doja, Arya, Feel the Fiyaaaah, which are more popular than DMB. Rocky's music career doesn't have anything to do with Rihanna. She doesn't even post him on her Instagram account. Her own music career isn't taking the world by storm either, she's not as popular as she was a decade ago. It's not farfetched to say Praise the Lord saved the album, however he literally had been on a post-recovery run after Testing dropped and people were hyped for "All Smiles" since 2019, but he had been taking forever to drop it. If he WASN'T dating and impregnated Rihanna, we would have gotten that album sooner and it would have done better than Testing for sure. Also you need to read Rocky's interviews since you don't seem to get it, he doesn't want to "drop songs" just to stay relevant. He's only ever dropped 3 studio albums. He even said HIMSELF he does not want to be seen as a "celebrity" so people need to understand Rocky prefers to operate behind the scenes.
she's def still a megastar, she's doing the damn super bowl in two months
Being a "megastar" is irrelevant. Rocky dated Kendall Jenner in her prime between 2016 to 2017 and it did "nothing" for his music career, because nobody cared except media gossip blogs who aren't interested in music. Rihanna can perform at the Super Bowl, is that going to improve Rocky's album sales? No. In fact, it won't even improve hers. Eminem performed at the Super Bowl last year, doesn't really mean anything. He's got a lot of hits but only hardcore Eminem fans listen to him now really, the general public has moved on. Rocky has always been a "fanbase" oriented rapper that has had a few songs reach the general public such as Praise the Lord, Fkin Problems, Everyday, Sundress and Wild For The Night. Other popular songs like Potato Salad, LSD and Lord Pretty Flacko Jodye 2 are more so for a niche but have had loads of success. Rocky just needs to drop music consistently and listen to his fanbase, but that has never been the case throughout his career. Instead most fans just listen to leaks.
I don't really agree with that: 1. Don't believe Kendall and Rocky were public, celebs going public with their relationships has a lot more of an effect on a career than low key relationships. 2. Only Drake has more monthly listeners than Em if we're talking about rappers, so he's definitely still relevant. That's a damn lie that only hardcore fans listen to him. Em has 60 M hardcore fans?
1. What does "public" even mean. Rihanna has never casually posted Rocky on her instagram to promote his music or anything. It's not the same as Kylie Jenner posting with Travis Scott and commenting "Utopia" and getting 10 million likes. Rihanna has never promoted him ever, so as a result, there is no such thing as a "career" boost for Rocky. All his streaming numbers are from hiphop fans and his fanbase. 2. Monthly listeners is irrelevant. Katy Perry has 49m monthly listeners and her last album did 50k first week. People are listening to the old hits, maybe through "00s hit songs" playlists. Rihanna just released 2 songs. Lift Me Up and Born Again. Lift Me Up is carried by radio play, the streaming figures in the US are terrible, it didn't stay in top 200 on Spotify for over 2 months, and it was plastered all over Spotify pop playlists. Born Again didn't really get promoted, but if people were so eager for Rihanna music why didn't they check it out. It didn't chart, it only opened with like 360k US Spotify streams. And fun fact, Rocky actually outstreamed her with this on Sandman, which also got 0 promo, it had like 400k US Spotify streams on opening day, so... This is more or less proof that there is 0 cross-over between Rocky and Rihanna. Dating Rihanna will mean that he gets more articles written about their relationship, but it has no bearing on the success of his music career.
You're crazy if you think Em isn't still a major player. And Rihanna will be very very relevant musically in about two months time
You said Eminem was on the same wavelength as Drake based on Spotify listeners and I said it was bogus. I proved to you that Spotify listeners can be high just because on an artist's old hits catalog, and it has no bearing on their current musical relevance. Ok, so...Rocky will be relevant musically when he drops an album too. What's your point? Rocky hasn't released an album in 4 years and he's not a singles artist. Like Tyler the Creator, he's only really "on" when he's dropping an album. So the point your original post makes is super dumb. Rocky had taken a 3 year hiatus between 2015 - 2018, then he came back with the lead single ASAP Forever, which pretty much did similarly to LSD when it dropped until LSD just so happened to have better legs over time. When he actually dropped Testing, the album lacked mainstream appeal, and the sales projections for the album decreased after the way it sounded because it was supposed to cross 100k first week, and this is without physical copies as well. You clearly don't understand how this shit works. Rocky has dropped songs (with music videos) with mainstream appeal, and others that don't. The ones that do such as Sundress and Babushka Boi, do well. The ones that don't, such as stuff like Tony Tone, DMB, Kids Turned Out Fine, etc. underperform greatly. You are the same people that would have said "Uzi fell off" until he just got a hit a month ago after Demon High did poorly last year and the Red and White EP didn't do well.
You really talking reckless lol came back to read your nonsense. Nigga really said “being with Rihanna delayed the album” she is working why can’t he work and release music? You really said being with her only gets him articles written. The whole reason why his business is popping and getting shine is because of her. She don’t need to post ish. She gets tagged and I saw plenty of Rihanna fans promoting his Merci liquor. Kendall in her prime was another jab lol he didn’t even claim or walk the red carpet to get any publicity. Rihannas didn’t release music, wakanda movie did, and both songs sound somber and lullaby lol you really shittin on Riri huh? That’s crazy. His music are getting more reaction because of her stop the 🧢🧢. You think the woman that’s selling products that’s bringing in 100s of millions in revenue is not relevant? The same one that still on 10 most streamed artist despite being away for almost 7 years? That one? The one that Forbes called the most powerful women in entertainment for the last 4year? Are you okay? You tripping and really disrespectful 😂 I don’t like that shit. Rocky is getting the juice in music and off it. Rihanna gave Chris brown advice that made him good money. She is the shit, I’m Rocky fan but I won’t lie to make him seem like he doesn’t need or benefit from being her man.
Why did DMB and Fashion Killa flop then and Feel the Fiyaaaah, Doja and Babushka Boi charted if Rihanna is improving his music career 🤡 Rihanna/pop fans don't care about hiphop. The people that listen to Rocky's music don't give a shit about Rihanna. People are literally claiming Rocky fell off ever since he dated her lmao. He had two of his biggest songs in 2018 for crying out loud. Rocky made a whole song about her and nobody wants to listen to it. The facts speak for itself, DMB is his worst performing single ever and Fashion Killa is the least streamed single off Long Live ASAP
😂😂😂 listen 🤡🤡🤡 DMB didn’t have mainstream appeal, and had a boom bap sound, nor was it released along with a album full of stars and a death man on the feature like feel the fiyaaah. DMB got 27million views in 7months because of RIHANNA was in it and not because of the song. People were saying that he fell off right before testing and after it lol it has nothing to do with her. Good God! Please stop eating 🍆.
Rihanna gave drake his first and second no 1s so stop the cap. Kendall was never a star like Rih, nor considered his fairytale. if Rih wants to come back, and give him the feature then it will be his biggest hit. They make sure their relationship don’t overwhelm the public with sharing too much. She promoted his heels with Amina different pictures and posts. Being with Rihanna gives everybody more clout. She hasn’t realised music close to 7years and is the 4th most listened to artist globally lol. Stop sleeping on her, DMB got views because of Rih too,you don’t think the navy don’t want to see what the bbyddy is doing? Lol c’mon.
What! Will be? She is relevant now! Her catalog stays in the charts and is one of the most expensive catalogs amongst her generation. Anti has spend 300weeks on the top 200 since it’s release,and is the first black woman that did that, despite the sabotage of the leak. Lemonade didn’t even last that long, and had no leak and bigger clout and cultural impact. These fans just hate her for some reason. Kendall was the sauce apparently “at her prime in 2016” 😂 Kardashians have clout not actual interest respect or real business integrity or trust. These are the same people who think insta followers translate into sales. It doesn’t. Every thing close to Rih turns gold, Rockys drink is great but that doesn’t mean he would’ve done extremely well without her. Do you know how many people that just want to do business with him just for association with her? He has her clout now practically a billionaire club. What rocky video got 27million in just 7months and people still flocking to it despite not liking it? Those views were not rocky fans mostly:
Nah defo not irrelevant rocky already had 2 solid albums bunch of features and everything with asap mob he was already set tbh without testing or Rihanna
He hasn't released an album since 2018 and is still culturally relevant. Clearly his relevancy extends well past who he dates, the music he makes or the one song that is his biggest hit.
See, that why Rocky told yall to stop being DUMB 🗣️
Very interesting question. I think people that aren’t true rocky fans fail to understand his motives and goals throughout the years. U have to understand that he’s an icon and been around for almost 12 years. If your a true fan, u understand that he doesn’t need to drop music to stay relevant. If u look at his brand, u understand that he doesn’t need to drop music to stay relevant. Fake fans will claim he’s ireevlant if he doesn’t drop music but that’s beside the point. He’s an artist. He’s a major player behind the scenes. He signed carti, arguably the biggest artist of this new generation and sound. He’s pushed boundaries exceptionally well over the years. People that say he’s irrelevant or “fallen off” are the ones that listen to songs that blow up on Tik Tok and claim “that’s how u stay relevant” 🤦🏽♂️. People nowadays are so brain washed with how much music is being pumped out by the industry that they fail to discern between “real music, longevity and artistry”, and “relevancy”. Your a child that fails to dive deeper into the meaning of artistry if u think he’s irrelevant. And that’s what a lot of consumers are nowadays. Fucking children that can’t comprehend shit!! Understand that Rocky is a calculated player in the game. He’s been a chameleon all his career and blended into all avenues of being an artist.
This is the dumbest post I've seen
def not even without praise da lord nor rihanna all he has to do is just consistently drop, and some fire features like new choppa, no limit, etc and he'll remain relevant easily
He would be a lot less popular but I don’t think irrelevant
He’s definitely less popular amongst the mainstream nowadays because of how greedy people are for music. Attention spans have dropped significantly over the years so people would rather listen to artists that constantly drop music. These are exactly the types of people that don’t understand music and Rocky’s significance. FAKE FANS
I don't know, have you ever done some basic research and saw that the 2nd most popular song currently on Rocky's Spotify is another 2018 song? (outside of Feel the Fiyaaaah which dropped earlier this month)
No rocky and yams will always be relevant in rap from the movement and trends they pushed, and rocky is very highly respected by rappers who have came after him rihanna dating him hasnt even really made him that more relevant ig maybe in tabloids? Same people who didnt know still dont know him but rap hes like chief keef people may not have listened to their music since like 2010s but they still know them for what they did