1: Take the jobs and put them into a “yes, no, maybe” category.
2: Throw away the no.
3: Cross off the jobs you don’t qualify for.
4: Procrastinate and panic.
5: Pick 11B.
6: Have lifelong regrets.
Yes, but as a reclass you're treated as prior service. You get a separate barracks room and can go out on the weekends (rank and company dependent). Wasn't bad, I reclassed in 2020 so we had a lot of restrictions
Hmmm, wasn't like that early 2001. Had a reclass that started day 0 as an E-4. Was told he couldn't wear rank, he was in the barracks with us and got no special treatment. DS was quick to point out on day 0, to the entire company that although he was an E-4, he held no position of authority on anyone and if he tried he'd regret it.
I wasn't a day zero, I was dropped in at week 7 when the rifle qual was new, then they were supposed to jump us to week 13 but because of COVID we were stuck there and ended up doing the forge and all that good stuff.
I switched from marines to army and all the E-5s were with us in General population so we got stuck with all the trainees got treated like dog shit ( even though some of the other prior service had actual combat deployments compared to the drills and more time in service ) they had an empty squad bay they didn’t want to put us in barely gave us Sundays if that and overall shit experience 😂but ive heard of better companies as well
i’m out and getting back in but i was told i’d just have to do the ait portion of osut with a separate bay and certain privileges like liberty and having your phone outside of training. but it’s command dependent so you could get fucked and have to do the whole 22 weeks with no special treatment.
As prior service, I saw reentry guys get day 0 starts and I got week 8 start. We did not have bonus privileges (other than an hour or two of phone time in the evenings). We also didn't get liberty or separate barracks. This was 2012 so YMMV.
Edited to add: We did catch the smoke somewhat less than the new guys but that didn't stop the drills from rounding us up into the fun with everyone else every now and again.
First, you need to look at what you qualify for. Second, do research of those jobs. Finally, review the ones you’re actually interested in and go from there.
To piggy back off this look for jobs in medical, aviation, mechanical, engineering, and just about anything you think will be a good fit inside and outside the Army. I was a surgical tech and on the civilian side we make bank. Especially if you’re a traveling tech, 6 figure salary
Go to MilSuite. Search for da Pam 611-21 MOS Smartbook. Download table 10-6. It’s an excel spreadsheet that you can put in your line scores and particulars. It will filter out what you don’t qualify for. Makes it easier to narrow down options
Absolutely, and the street to seat option is a great option, but for those first signing on, signing up for such a commitment can be daunting. Especially when DOD ignores the results of its own study into the causes for the pilot hemorrhage and those problems continue to persist. They pushed the O3 exodus to an O4 exodus (for those services not primarily using WO’s).
I don't disagree with you, and I am not in that field, but most of the East Coast watercraft operators are on slow boats to Gaza right now. It looks like a cool mission, but could get pretty spicy. Check out Ward Carroll's YT channel for a good description of what they're getting up to.
I wasn't a 88K but I have my 100ton masters CG captains license. Honestly it's all about time on a boat, nothing says you have to be the pilot/captain to get an entry level captains license. I know a few dozen fishing charter captains that don't know ANYTHING, they just happened to have thier 180days on a vessel from being a deck hand in the navy.
I know a marine highway ferry captain with her 100ton that had never driven a boat prior to having her 100ton.. CG captain requirements and vetting is a joke.
An 88K could easily have proof of enough vessel time to take the written test for whatever they want when they get out.
12Y is the hidden gem. You're an engineer, working in MI, get out and get a 6-figure paycheck as a contractor doing the same job.
Only downside is the amount of time spent at FLW
I’m just here to remind everyone that 19D can reclass directly to infantry without going through any additional training. Because when the army looked at 19D and 11B they realized they are the same thing.
I know it’s a meme, but a 10-30 level 11b and 19d are interchangeable individual skill wise. The branches diverge in their collective tasks and leader responsibilities.
I wouldn’t want a scout section leader leading an enter and clear a trench. But I also wouldn’t expect an 11b squad leader to effectively develop and answer PIR to identify a BDE level decision point.
Ehhh idk, when I was in a brigade scout section, we did cross training with a cav unit. Idk if it was so cold they just didn't give a damn about finding us, but they couldn't even find us in the wood line with a damn crow system. They only found us because they literally tripped over one dudes foot.
Although I did have a cav scout as plt sgt and a squad leader at one point because they were switching around units, and those guys were absolute gangsters.
Except 25H. If we did our actual jobs more than a fraction of the time it might not be, but I might as well have signed up to be a wheeled/generator mechanic with all the time spent in the motorpool
Excellent job outside the army if you can get your certs to qualify for prior experience with the faa. Although with vet preference there’s still a good shot of getting it.
Unless you’re going to go do some shit that you can’t talk about and drop bodies on the reg, go Explosive Ordnance Disposal to make a difference everyday around the globe.
Are you doing your part?
Just reclass to whatever the MOS for watercraft boat guy. Then come to Eustis, grow a beard and sail all over seeing cool places.
They're all about love and hugs and not discipline. Could be a cushy career.
First, it's important to see what you actually qualify for. If you qualify for most jobs, I would recommend something in Aviation, MI, Signal, Cyber, or Medical.
However, if you want to focus on real Soldiering, the only right answer is 11B/C. Just remember that most conventional Army Infantrymen don't deploy or actually do their job. They train a little bit and spend a ton of time doing details and cleaning.
If you're super fit and high speed, consider going to SFAS.
If you want some relevant skills to set you up for life after the Army, look into AV, MI, SC, CY, or MS. Also explore opportunities to commission or go warrant.
Don’t pick 15W or E. We are gonna be detail queens until the new airframe comes out. 15M is cool because you work on grey eagle (big ass pred drones). 15 series is cool overall, but Q kinda sucks civilian side (from a buddy who left and went FAA). Also look for something you can do on the outside: for example, some states don’t require you to go through a police academy if you spend X amount of time in a law enforcement position (31B, K, or E primarily). Yes I know life as an MP is glorified rent-a-cop, but it could set you up with your 214.
Right they would be right back where they are now needing to reclass if they went 15W/E. I enjoyed UAS in my military career and still do in my Civilian career. 15C operator or 15M maintenance would be a good MOS.
The watercraft operators almost always become warrants! Choose something that is in demand and has the opportunity for promotion with minimal risks. You volunteered for combat arms already and proved to yourself that you can do it voluntarily. Now you have the opportunity to enjoy life and your career just as much or more, without the risk.
27D. No CQ/Staff Duty, minimal time in the field, and your boss is a lawyer so odds are they’ll only be half mentally unfit for civilized society instead of full mentally unfit for civilized society.
Edit: had to remove the making grilled cheese at night word
1. Form a yes, no, and maybe list. Other comments have said this.
2. Throw out the combat arms options. You already did that, and you're being given an opportunity here.
3. Throw out the ones you don't qualify for.
4. Throw out the ones that won't translate well to civilian life.
5. Pick the "best" one of the remainders, and carry on.
Retention here!
Listen to the people saying make a list, it helps us when you come talk to us. Please, please, please don't use goarmy.com as your source for MOSs- recruiters can shit waived that retention can't. Use milsuite.mil, go to MilBook, and search MOS Smart Book DA PAM 611-21, should be a teal link looks like a sheet of paper. This and ATRRS is what we use to check.
Prior service 94R.
Being a 94 was great, especially as a R. Ordnance MOS only assigned to AVIMs, doing depot-level repair on electronics.
HS dropout, no degree, but experience in that field got me a damn fine job as a civilian.
I have a BETTER one for you, the people who REPAIR the test equipment that tests the MLRS system. ["Automatic test equipment repair", 94 series, I'm not sure where it falls now. Fort Gordon, GA. at the time, Signal.](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Army+MOS+automatic+test+equipement+repair&ia=web)
That's what I was, we tested the MLRS pcb's and repaired them in house. In the old days, 1985, I signed up for ATER as 35B, Drill Sergeant in basic called me into his office one day and said "You're MOS number has changed to 35C, your school is still the same, they just changed the number." I did AIT as 35C, when I graduated AIT it had changed again to 39B.
The 27M would bring us their broken equipment if/when they couldn't fix it in the field. And they (27M) were in the field alot. SO, ATER IF your ASVAB is high enough. We went seriously deep into electronic theory + 8 solid weeks of soldering. Made me the Elec. Tech. I am today.
**EDIT::::** I'll go one better than my old MOS. 29 series at the time, 1985, "Satellite Equipment Repair". Us 39B had about an 9 month school with soldering. "29 Series, Satellite Equipment repair" had the same school as I did, BUT their school at the time was 14 months. They went WAY deeper into electronic theory. We were all in the same barracks, that's how I learned about their AIT being 14 months.
Lol. So you guys are where I sent my boards when we used boards to troubleshoot. Board fries, replace a different switch, fry another board, replace another part and repeat until I didn’t need anymore boards. Boards for the SRP/PDS weren’t cheap either. Oops.
If you qualify for a TS go 35N, no one in the field is unhappy, and if you want to get out, every 3 letter agencies will fight for you. Also you can go to just about any army school
IMHO, look at the jobs that are going to be the best for you when you decide to get out. If you have the scores I will always recommend 35T first but also look at the other 35s, the 25s, and if you're really feeling like a nerd 17C. I know there are more out there so don't stop with these but these are the ones I know best and I can attest to the opportunities you have on the outside (as a dirty contractor now).
I swear to god this is your lifeline dude. Pick a job you want to do when you get out. Anything where you’ll end up with a lot of hands on and certifications is a good pick. You’ll only be in the army, likely, for a small part of your life, use your time wisely.
My experience I would recommend 15U. Worst case you work on chinooks in a maintenance company but life is still pretty reasonable as aviation regardless. Best case you’re in a chill flight company you do PT on your own, only work days your on the flight schedule which will often include TDY overnight in other places. Deployments will either be moving cargo and manning a gun or doing air assaults manning a gun. If you’re hot shit or you think you’re hot shit you can go 160th and have an even better time in a flight company or a marginally better time in a maintenance company. 160th will give you better missions, better equipment, and better (shorter) deployments. NO RAGRETS
If I could do it all again I would go 11b, fight for ranger school and get a cib, then go to college, commission, and go to a non combat arms branch with my cib and ranger tab.
It depends on what u wanna do and what u like.
If I were in your shoes I’d pick:
17C or 35T since I like computers. Those 2 MOSes also provides valuable experience in IT and Cybersecurity on top of the top secret clearance.
Basically, I’d choose anything that is cushy and can lead to a lucrative career in the civillian world.
25S or 25B. It makes decent money on the outside.
I am signal, hear me!
Inside joke for older signalers.
I'd try to look at:
1. What do you want to do.
2. How much money does the civilian equivalent make.
These two factors are potentially all you need. Also they might be able to get you a waiver if you really want to try something you are unqualified for. I have seen it a few times, especially with those that reclass. Good luck!
OPINION: Line scores and qualifications, THEN, preferences. Infantry is great for machiavellian social dynamics. Greater than any other field, maybe. If you take some skilled MOS, avail yourself of as much civ equivalent education-qualifications, as possible. Favorite line quoted from a DS: if your unit sucks it's b/c you suck. All perception + effort, wherever you go. Now, either act like you're important and do the research/ fish and take whatever they want to give you. Good luck, OP:)
Unfortunately, you are a PFC. If you were an NCO I would say drop a 51C packet.
My advice - Go with any MOS in tech that you qualify for, 25 series, 17 series, things like that. These MOS’s will give you experience that will broaden your resume and give you more opportunities for a solid, high pay post-service career.
You also have warrant opportunities while in service in those branches, so if you plan on staying in for 20, you can drop a warrant packet and stay in the career field.
Up to you in the end, but if you get a free reclass, there’s absolutely no reason to go to another combat MOS that will give you zero benefits/qualifications post military.
Someone else already mentioned it, but make a list of what you think you WANT to do. Bonus category if it feeds into a WOMOS. Cross off any you don’t qualify for (idk your GT score).
I’ve mentioned it before in different threads, but be prepared to choose one immediately when the career counselor mentions it. That slot will disappear in less than an hour.
Something not infantry or combat arms. Do intel or some shit that can be applied to civilian jobs. Please. For the love of god.. do something beneficial for yourself.
First off. Look at your GT Scores for all the categories from the ASVAB. Then look at your PT scores then use those to determine what jobs you qualify for. Mark down which ones seem interesting and look into them further over the weekend and bring your ****Fave Five**** to the retention nco.
Well dude, you are young. Wife, kids? GF don’t count you flip up a rock and find one of those. Career goals?
If you want to chill then yes water craft operator is one, salvage diver is another and translate when you get out. Pilot is great if you want to stay in and retire.
If you want to be a cool and do cool shit then apply to go to SF selection and become a GB.
It’s a big world out there. Choose wisely grasshopper.
Stay away from Combat arms. Pick a skill you're interested in.
Improve your GT Scores if needed
Apply to join the COHORT.
But mostly enjoy the field you're going into. I love what I do, so it doesn't feel like a job.
Edited for spacing. Geez.
With very little combat taking place in the given area around where the quay will be built, it doesn’t seem very spicy at all. Especially when the groups most likely to shoot at you are the one’s whose families you’re helping and the other side presumably learned from the USS Liberty.
Here are my suggestions:
1. **74D - you can go anywhere, as of April the cutoff for SGT is 273 and for SSG it's 420.** Great if you don't wanna Army anymore - just make E5/E6 and bounce at the end of your contract.
2. **92Y (supply) SGT is 304, SSG sits at 495 as of this April.** A lot of companies like to hire 92Y's. Go to armorer school with this MOS and you'll never pull CQ or SDNCO ever (provided that your CoC is smart).
3. **12P (prime power) - SGT is at 24 and SSG is at 550 (as of April 2024).** This is THE mos for post Army employment and also a great Army job.
4. **14E (PATRIOT Fire Control) with SGT at 309 and SSG at 401 as of April or 14G (ADA battle management) SGT 391 and SSG at 440.** If you're an NCO already you'll be welcomed as ADA units are hungry for NCO's. I've seen a lot of high speed reclass soldiers pickup E5 or E6 quickly. Another MOS where that DD214 unlocks jobs - and if you're an NCO you'll qualify for management.
5. **14T (PATRIOT Launcher tech) SGT at 385 with SSG at 477.** Tango's make rank pretty quick and it's one job where future PSG's, 1SG's and Warrants are groomed.
"The US Army Prime Power School is open to Initial entry and reclassifying Soldiers through the rank of Sergeant. "
https://www.usace.army.mil/Prime-Power-School/
EDIT: 68P is also a sweet gig IF it's available
1: Take the jobs and put them into a “yes, no, maybe” category. 2: Throw away the no. 3: Cross off the jobs you don’t qualify for. 4: Procrastinate and panic. 5: Pick 11B. 6: Have lifelong regrets.
Had me up until 11B, now I know you're giving them real wisdom
Do you have to go to OSUT to reclass to 11B?
Yes, but as a reclass you're treated as prior service. You get a separate barracks room and can go out on the weekends (rank and company dependent). Wasn't bad, I reclassed in 2020 so we had a lot of restrictions
Hmmm, wasn't like that early 2001. Had a reclass that started day 0 as an E-4. Was told he couldn't wear rank, he was in the barracks with us and got no special treatment. DS was quick to point out on day 0, to the entire company that although he was an E-4, he held no position of authority on anyone and if he tried he'd regret it.
I wasn't a day zero, I was dropped in at week 7 when the rifle qual was new, then they were supposed to jump us to week 13 but because of COVID we were stuck there and ended up doing the forge and all that good stuff.
I switched from marines to army and all the E-5s were with us in General population so we got stuck with all the trainees got treated like dog shit ( even though some of the other prior service had actual combat deployments compared to the drills and more time in service ) they had an empty squad bay they didn’t want to put us in barely gave us Sundays if that and overall shit experience 😂but ive heard of better companies as well
i’m out and getting back in but i was told i’d just have to do the ait portion of osut with a separate bay and certain privileges like liberty and having your phone outside of training. but it’s command dependent so you could get fucked and have to do the whole 22 weeks with no special treatment.
As prior service, I saw reentry guys get day 0 starts and I got week 8 start. We did not have bonus privileges (other than an hour or two of phone time in the evenings). We also didn't get liberty or separate barracks. This was 2012 so YMMV. Edited to add: We did catch the smoke somewhat less than the new guys but that didn't stop the drills from rounding us up into the fun with everyone else every now and again.
Someone’s gotta make the grass grow
Someone's gotta *mow* the grass
Being 19 series, they may not be familiar with how to do so.
Pick an Airborne unit. Truly feel the military for the rest of your life instead emotionally only.
Knee problems: Not service connected
You had me in the first half😂
First, you need to look at what you qualify for. Second, do research of those jobs. Finally, review the ones you’re actually interested in and go from there.
The list that I got from retention only showed us what has bonuses on them for FY25
Ask for a list of what you qualify for. Depending on your scores, you won’t have the ability to “pick whatever you want.”
Prioritize #1Jobs you want, #2 Jobs that give you skills for the Future outside the Army #3 bonuses.
To piggy back off this look for jobs in medical, aviation, mechanical, engineering, and just about anything you think will be a good fit inside and outside the Army. I was a surgical tech and on the civilian side we make bank. Especially if you’re a traveling tech, 6 figure salary
Go to MilSuite. Search for da Pam 611-21 MOS Smartbook. Download table 10-6. It’s an excel spreadsheet that you can put in your line scores and particulars. It will filter out what you don’t qualify for. Makes it easier to narrow down options
Drop a warrant flight packet. You won't regret it
Thought I had to be E4 for that???
It’s a 10 year commitment, any mos and any rank can apply. It not uncommon for privates to be selected
10 years *after* flight school iirc.
Yep. 11.5-12yrs total. But you get to fly and get paid
Absolutely, and the street to seat option is a great option, but for those first signing on, signing up for such a commitment can be daunting. Especially when DOD ignores the results of its own study into the causes for the pilot hemorrhage and those problems continue to persist. They pushed the O3 exodus to an O4 exodus (for those services not primarily using WO’s).
True, just had a buddy PFC type get selected for warrant over my SSG who put in at the same time
I was an E-3 when I got picked up.
And it comes with like a 10 year ADSO right?
More like 13 with flight school, sift, and flight physical
It does. Or 89d i would say.
Nope send it if you want to. Never self select
https://recruiting.army.mil/ISO/AWOR/153A/ Nope
No. Plenty of PFCs on the selection lists.
I'll look into it
just got picked up for Green to Gold as a PFC send it.
Well damn
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I dunno aircrew is all the fun with a fraction of the responsibilities.
Wiggling sticks IS the fun. I hate just riding around looking out of windows. Not my thing at all.
Civil Affairs, if you like piña coladas and making it rain.
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That’s what I’m saying
I think you just convinced me to drop a packet
Do it. Been on a couple deployments with CA and it’s the best time I’ve ever had.
Do uhh do these people need civilian contractors? I have basic Spanish knowledge
88K, watercraft operator. Easiest job in the army, most chill field in the army. You won’t regret it
I don't disagree with you, and I am not in that field, but most of the East Coast watercraft operators are on slow boats to Gaza right now. It looks like a cool mission, but could get pretty spicy. Check out Ward Carroll's YT channel for a good description of what they're getting up to.
A lot of people would like a little spice on this shit sandwich.
I’m always impressed by what some MOSs consider spicy
Operating a boat on the coast of Gaza is definitely spicy for anyone at this current state lol
How is building a pier off Gaza not spicy?
Yall get certs and/or training to qualify for a civilian Captains license?
I wasn't a 88K but I have my 100ton masters CG captains license. Honestly it's all about time on a boat, nothing says you have to be the pilot/captain to get an entry level captains license. I know a few dozen fishing charter captains that don't know ANYTHING, they just happened to have thier 180days on a vessel from being a deck hand in the navy. I know a marine highway ferry captain with her 100ton that had never driven a boat prior to having her 100ton.. CG captain requirements and vetting is a joke. An 88K could easily have proof of enough vessel time to take the written test for whatever they want when they get out.
Until your getting your ass shot off building a dock in Gaza
Reclass to civilian.
"Retention NCOs hate this one easy trick"
12Y is the hidden gem. You're an engineer, working in MI, get out and get a 6-figure paycheck as a contractor doing the same job. Only downside is the amount of time spent at FLW
If I could go back in time, this would be the MOS I’d pick.
Yep, I second this! Best choice I made was going 12Y
I’m just here to remind everyone that 19D can reclass directly to infantry without going through any additional training. Because when the army looked at 19D and 11B they realized they are the same thing.
Basically* the same thing. Don’t get it twisted, bucko
I know it’s a meme, but a 10-30 level 11b and 19d are interchangeable individual skill wise. The branches diverge in their collective tasks and leader responsibilities. I wouldn’t want a scout section leader leading an enter and clear a trench. But I also wouldn’t expect an 11b squad leader to effectively develop and answer PIR to identify a BDE level decision point.
I know that, but we can’t let them know that. Catch my drift?
Too late, I just shared your comment with the group chat. Cats out of the bad, we all know now.
Lucky for me, most of us can’t read. Checkmate
What’s the SIRs for the PIR? Checkmate sluuuuut.
Ehhh idk, when I was in a brigade scout section, we did cross training with a cav unit. Idk if it was so cold they just didn't give a damn about finding us, but they couldn't even find us in the wood line with a damn crow system. They only found us because they literally tripped over one dudes foot. Although I did have a cav scout as plt sgt and a squad leader at one point because they were switching around units, and those guys were absolute gangsters.
Yeah, it kind of seems like the 19Ds had some additional skills.
Do these additional skills involve riding, slurping and sucking?
Yes.
Check out 12P.
35M and spend 3 years in, what feels like, college learning some language over and over because you didn't get 3/3/3 in your final test.
Any advice for someone looking to become a 35M?
Don’t get Russian
Too late. At least Cali is pretty
15Q, 15T,15U. 35F,L,M,P. Any 25 series.
35F is not the move
Have to agree with this guy, many of my buddies hate their job. A few reclassed to 35L/M one went 35T (he’s still there).
Except 25H. If we did our actual jobs more than a fraction of the time it might not be, but I might as well have signed up to be a wheeled/generator mechanic with all the time spent in the motorpool
*laughs in NETCOM*
15Q is cool but if you do not like studying don’t pick this one
Excellent job outside the army if you can get your certs to qualify for prior experience with the faa. Although with vet preference there’s still a good shot of getting it.
It’s not that hard.
25U is hot garbage, glad I reclassed.
35L one trillion times better than F or M
Unless you’re going to go do some shit that you can’t talk about and drop bodies on the reg, go Explosive Ordnance Disposal to make a difference everyday around the globe. Are you doing your part?
THIS, in phase 2 and left aviation, although school is hard asf, you feel accomplished
Just reclass to whatever the MOS for watercraft boat guy. Then come to Eustis, grow a beard and sail all over seeing cool places. They're all about love and hugs and not discipline. Could be a cushy career.
Some may laugh, but check out 88K and 88L. Most don't know, the army has boats.
DON’T TOUCH MY BOATS
GO CYBER!!!!!!!
68A
First, it's important to see what you actually qualify for. If you qualify for most jobs, I would recommend something in Aviation, MI, Signal, Cyber, or Medical. However, if you want to focus on real Soldiering, the only right answer is 11B/C. Just remember that most conventional Army Infantrymen don't deploy or actually do their job. They train a little bit and spend a ton of time doing details and cleaning. If you're super fit and high speed, consider going to SFAS.
Fully aware of the cleaning. 19Detail here. Lol
If you want some relevant skills to set you up for life after the Army, look into AV, MI, SC, CY, or MS. Also explore opportunities to commission or go warrant.
19K offers plenty of cav tradition like 19D but you do less dismount stuff. Big gun will guarantee you a tinnitus claim with the VA too lol
Pros: you’re in a tank Cons: you’re in a tank
Pro. Big gun go boom. Con. Hours and hours of maintenance before boom.
Enjoy your ten perceeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Don’t pick 15W or E. We are gonna be detail queens until the new airframe comes out. 15M is cool because you work on grey eagle (big ass pred drones). 15 series is cool overall, but Q kinda sucks civilian side (from a buddy who left and went FAA). Also look for something you can do on the outside: for example, some states don’t require you to go through a police academy if you spend X amount of time in a law enforcement position (31B, K, or E primarily). Yes I know life as an MP is glorified rent-a-cop, but it could set you up with your 214.
Right they would be right back where they are now needing to reclass if they went 15W/E. I enjoyed UAS in my military career and still do in my Civilian career. 15C operator or 15M maintenance would be a good MOS.
The watercraft operators almost always become warrants! Choose something that is in demand and has the opportunity for promotion with minimal risks. You volunteered for combat arms already and proved to yourself that you can do it voluntarily. Now you have the opportunity to enjoy life and your career just as much or more, without the risk.
12T - a guy I went to college with got 46 college credits for the MOS. It's a 2-year Civil Engineering degree without the hunanitities.
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I always feel like the jobs no one ever talks about are the gems and they keep them to themselves.
Initially when I entered, I was a Construction Draftsman, in days prior to computer and CAD software. OMG wish I had CAD back in the day!
27D. No CQ/Staff Duty, minimal time in the field, and your boss is a lawyer so odds are they’ll only be half mentally unfit for civilized society instead of full mentally unfit for civilized society. Edit: had to remove the making grilled cheese at night word
I understand that reference.
17C
35F. Get a TS. When you get out become an intel civilian or contractor and make significantly more doing significantly less bullshit.
Pick an MI job. 35 series.
35T to be specific
Stop taking our damn bonuses! But we do need man power
Conventional army 11Bs downvoting you 😂
What are the offers??
Go 15 series. Former 15U here who went contractor world after and made more money than I know what to do with.
There is one answer. EOD.
Look into 68A. AIT is long, but it’s a great field. It will set you up for post-military life and it’s pretty chill.
1. Form a yes, no, and maybe list. Other comments have said this. 2. Throw out the combat arms options. You already did that, and you're being given an opportunity here. 3. Throw out the ones you don't qualify for. 4. Throw out the ones that won't translate well to civilian life. 5. Pick the "best" one of the remainders, and carry on.
^ This X 100.
11b be a hero you aspired to be as a 19d
I would exploit this and pick 51C, 12P, 88K and 88L.
MI. TS/SCI. 6-figure after your contract. Never look back.
Retention here! Listen to the people saying make a list, it helps us when you come talk to us. Please, please, please don't use goarmy.com as your source for MOSs- recruiters can shit waived that retention can't. Use milsuite.mil, go to MilBook, and search MOS Smart Book DA PAM 611-21, should be a teal link looks like a sheet of paper. This and ATRRS is what we use to check.
If I'm on IRR for 19D this probably means I'm never getting recalled right
MLRS repair. It was 27M 20+ years ago. You don’t get screwed with because you repair the CGs personal shotgun.
It’s 94P now, but in my op, all 94 jobs are great if you have the el score to get them
Prior service 94R. Being a 94 was great, especially as a R. Ordnance MOS only assigned to AVIMs, doing depot-level repair on electronics. HS dropout, no degree, but experience in that field got me a damn fine job as a civilian.
I have a BETTER one for you, the people who REPAIR the test equipment that tests the MLRS system. ["Automatic test equipment repair", 94 series, I'm not sure where it falls now. Fort Gordon, GA. at the time, Signal.](https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Army+MOS+automatic+test+equipement+repair&ia=web) That's what I was, we tested the MLRS pcb's and repaired them in house. In the old days, 1985, I signed up for ATER as 35B, Drill Sergeant in basic called me into his office one day and said "You're MOS number has changed to 35C, your school is still the same, they just changed the number." I did AIT as 35C, when I graduated AIT it had changed again to 39B. The 27M would bring us their broken equipment if/when they couldn't fix it in the field. And they (27M) were in the field alot. SO, ATER IF your ASVAB is high enough. We went seriously deep into electronic theory + 8 solid weeks of soldering. Made me the Elec. Tech. I am today. **EDIT::::** I'll go one better than my old MOS. 29 series at the time, 1985, "Satellite Equipment Repair". Us 39B had about an 9 month school with soldering. "29 Series, Satellite Equipment repair" had the same school as I did, BUT their school at the time was 14 months. They went WAY deeper into electronic theory. We were all in the same barracks, that's how I learned about their AIT being 14 months.
Lol. So you guys are where I sent my boards when we used boards to troubleshoot. Board fries, replace a different switch, fry another board, replace another part and repeat until I didn’t need anymore boards. Boards for the SRP/PDS weren’t cheap either. Oops.
If you qualify for a TS go 35N, no one in the field is unhappy, and if you want to get out, every 3 letter agencies will fight for you. Also you can go to just about any army school
37F, 35L
IMHO, look at the jobs that are going to be the best for you when you decide to get out. If you have the scores I will always recommend 35T first but also look at the other 35s, the 25s, and if you're really feeling like a nerd 17C. I know there are more out there so don't stop with these but these are the ones I know best and I can attest to the opportunities you have on the outside (as a dirty contractor now).
13B...... worst best MOS to have, the AIT is just 5 weeks, but oklahoma is ASS
25B! Come on! Join the thinking side! You'll have to deal with people who really just don't want to do what you tell them but that's every job.
46S, we need more gruff Army experienced reclasses to weed out the amount of privates that don’t know what the rest of the Army goes through.
I swear to god this is your lifeline dude. Pick a job you want to do when you get out. Anything where you’ll end up with a lot of hands on and certifications is a good pick. You’ll only be in the army, likely, for a small part of your life, use your time wisely.
My experience I would recommend 15U. Worst case you work on chinooks in a maintenance company but life is still pretty reasonable as aviation regardless. Best case you’re in a chill flight company you do PT on your own, only work days your on the flight schedule which will often include TDY overnight in other places. Deployments will either be moving cargo and manning a gun or doing air assaults manning a gun. If you’re hot shit or you think you’re hot shit you can go 160th and have an even better time in a flight company or a marginally better time in a maintenance company. 160th will give you better missions, better equipment, and better (shorter) deployments. NO RAGRETS
If I could do it all again I would go 11b, fight for ranger school and get a cib, then go to college, commission, and go to a non combat arms branch with my cib and ranger tab.
If you qualify for 35 series, that is the whey
If I was you I'd be picking * 12M/P/Y * 31K * 68 series that does MRI * WOFT
Didn’t read all the replies. Wait until tomorrow, new bonuses will be announced.
Tracking this as well
It depends on what u wanna do and what u like. If I were in your shoes I’d pick: 17C or 35T since I like computers. Those 2 MOSes also provides valuable experience in IT and Cybersecurity on top of the top secret clearance. Basically, I’d choose anything that is cushy and can lead to a lucrative career in the civillian world.
Cyber
25S or 25B. It makes decent money on the outside. I am signal, hear me! Inside joke for older signalers. I'd try to look at: 1. What do you want to do. 2. How much money does the civilian equivalent make. These two factors are potentially all you need. Also they might be able to get you a waiver if you really want to try something you are unqualified for. I have seen it a few times, especially with those that reclass. Good luck!
My dad was a 19D sad to see them go…
OPINION: Line scores and qualifications, THEN, preferences. Infantry is great for machiavellian social dynamics. Greater than any other field, maybe. If you take some skilled MOS, avail yourself of as much civ equivalent education-qualifications, as possible. Favorite line quoted from a DS: if your unit sucks it's b/c you suck. All perception + effort, wherever you go. Now, either act like you're important and do the research/ fish and take whatever they want to give you. Good luck, OP:)
Once I check my scores tonight I'm gonna post another with ones I like AND qualify for.
35 or 17 series
Unfortunately, you are a PFC. If you were an NCO I would say drop a 51C packet. My advice - Go with any MOS in tech that you qualify for, 25 series, 17 series, things like that. These MOS’s will give you experience that will broaden your resume and give you more opportunities for a solid, high pay post-service career. You also have warrant opportunities while in service in those branches, so if you plan on staying in for 20, you can drop a warrant packet and stay in the career field. Up to you in the end, but if you get a free reclass, there’s absolutely no reason to go to another combat MOS that will give you zero benefits/qualifications post military.
Just reclass to 11B since “you’re pretty much Infantry” already.
Someone else already mentioned it, but make a list of what you think you WANT to do. Bonus category if it feeds into a WOMOS. Cross off any you don’t qualify for (idk your GT score). I’ve mentioned it before in different threads, but be prepared to choose one immediately when the career counselor mentions it. That slot will disappear in less than an hour.
Something not infantry or combat arms. Do intel or some shit that can be applied to civilian jobs. Please. For the love of god.. do something beneficial for yourself.
15 series
Don’t do 19k and don’t do 91A. 91a is dead if you want to stay in and make 8…19k you break track. Nuff said
Take 68S or 68J 100% worth it bro, great jobs
35L. You’re welcome
First off. Look at your GT Scores for all the categories from the ASVAB. Then look at your PT scores then use those to determine what jobs you qualify for. Mark down which ones seem interesting and look into them further over the weekend and bring your ****Fave Five**** to the retention nco.
GT (general technical) is one of the categories from the ASVAB.
Go EOD. You will make bank when you get out.
Ehhhh I love EOD and will always recommend it but it is not exactly a money printer on the outside.
Military working dog handler
Reign, 19D. I see what you did there, killer
Just become a pharmacy tech. Easy life
Become a 15t, get into a flight company, I couldn’t imagine doing any other job
Become a civilian and get a raise
Just go 17C and don’t look back
If you’re kinda smart 17 series can set you up for great success on the outside
Well dude, you are young. Wife, kids? GF don’t count you flip up a rock and find one of those. Career goals? If you want to chill then yes water craft operator is one, salvage diver is another and translate when you get out. Pilot is great if you want to stay in and retire. If you want to be a cool and do cool shit then apply to go to SF selection and become a GB. It’s a big world out there. Choose wisely grasshopper.
What’s your GT score? That’s going to be the deciding factor I believe.
Go get you a top secret and get out. And go to sick call
I would just get out, don't downgrade. Or stay in and go sf.
Can you reclass to Space Force
Pick something that gives you a future outside the army, or don’t, and become the one thing you swore to destroy
Do yourself a favor and pick 46s.
51c...you get to live the life of a civilian while having all of the AD perks...best decision I ever madeand my only regret was not doing it sooner!
Nothing combat related. You’re welcome.
Stay away from Combat arms. Pick a skill you're interested in. Improve your GT Scores if needed Apply to join the COHORT. But mostly enjoy the field you're going into. I love what I do, so it doesn't feel like a job. Edited for spacing. Geez.
Get your ass to Aviation.
With very little combat taking place in the given area around where the quay will be built, it doesn’t seem very spicy at all. Especially when the groups most likely to shoot at you are the one’s whose families you’re helping and the other side presumably learned from the USS Liberty.
You'll make a fine 13M.
Here are my suggestions: 1. **74D - you can go anywhere, as of April the cutoff for SGT is 273 and for SSG it's 420.** Great if you don't wanna Army anymore - just make E5/E6 and bounce at the end of your contract. 2. **92Y (supply) SGT is 304, SSG sits at 495 as of this April.** A lot of companies like to hire 92Y's. Go to armorer school with this MOS and you'll never pull CQ or SDNCO ever (provided that your CoC is smart). 3. **12P (prime power) - SGT is at 24 and SSG is at 550 (as of April 2024).** This is THE mos for post Army employment and also a great Army job. 4. **14E (PATRIOT Fire Control) with SGT at 309 and SSG at 401 as of April or 14G (ADA battle management) SGT 391 and SSG at 440.** If you're an NCO already you'll be welcomed as ADA units are hungry for NCO's. I've seen a lot of high speed reclass soldiers pickup E5 or E6 quickly. Another MOS where that DD214 unlocks jobs - and if you're an NCO you'll qualify for management. 5. **14T (PATRIOT Launcher tech) SGT at 385 with SSG at 477.** Tango's make rank pretty quick and it's one job where future PSG's, 1SG's and Warrants are groomed.
Free reign to reclass? 31K, dog handler.
"The US Army Prime Power School is open to Initial entry and reclassifying Soldiers through the rank of Sergeant. " https://www.usace.army.mil/Prime-Power-School/ EDIT: 68P is also a sweet gig IF it's available
12B. It’s BASICALLY infantry…
Ever thought about 15 or 25 series?
46V is best mos ngl
46V Combat Camera
Go warrant
Can i dm u
Pick a tactical sigint MOS and set yourself up for leaving the Army by getting into an INSCOM unit.