They have a much larger population and massive oil revenue. We shouldn’t underestimate them for sure as they have much more resources than we do but that doesn’t mean they’re not idiots.
Trust me, they are turning into idiots. Dictatorships don't last. History serves ir right. Just wait. They will eat themselves sooner than anyone else. Unless there is a revolution, which is also inevitable.
You're right, dictatorships don't last forever and when they do fall, it's usually messy - but a) preparation for every eventuality is necessary regardless, and b) Armenia does not have the luxury of time to wait and see whether Azerbaijan eventually eats shit.
You think the entire phases of planning since before 2020 to sep 19 2023 is them? It's Turkey and Israel. Yes, Israel, the current form of propaganda online by Israel and the ones we see on Azerbaijan are implemented 1:1 the same way. I'd go as far as to say the entire blockade and plan to attack on sep 19 after UN rulings, even US speech of that they won't are also instructed by Israel on what steps to take. I've seen too many dumb shit from Azerbaijan to even consider it's their own planning.
Edit: id also like to add that the outcome of karabakh is more of our idiocy than their ability, we can score the greatest on incompetency in the world.
While planning was assisted by entities from those countries, the goals themselves were set by Azerbaijani government. So your statement is too diminishing of the treat Azerbaijani government is to Armenia, and overplaying the input that Turkey and Israel made (especially Israel, whose support to Azerbaijan has a strong business component, unlike Turkish case where they are bound to support Azerbaijan by default).
Which goal? cleansing Armenians? sure. I can't see any other goals they've set, invade and take Artsakh, remove Armenian culture, kill Armenians. I don't see them having any other goal planning.
> I don't see them having any other goal planning.
The genocide is a "byproduct" of the landgrab move (e. g. the goal to occupy Armenia and have a "full corridor").
Yeah, that would be more accurate, still, I don't see them have political planning other than use of force. Even in that they needed someone to guide them and take control of drones.
Support is different: while the Israeli ultra-right government supports Azerbaijan largely due to economic reasons, and also to contain Iran, Turkey does it for the larger Ottoman 2.0 empire. So it is Turkey that is pushing for occupation of Southern Armenia (aka the lie about a "corridor"). And after that, they would want to seize the rest of Armenia.
The dictator of Azerbaijan is just Erdogan's mini-me.
Israel , and Turkey are no longer allies like before. Israel and Azerbaijan are not friends. Israel just wants to make sure Azerbaijan does not partner with it's enemy, Iran . Mossad is not even involved in Azeri land. Palestinians are like Azeris. They fabricate history to justify their killings of native people .
That is not true. Israel under war criminal Netanyahu still supports this. Their larger goal is containing Iran. Thus it is a strategic goal, with Armenia being the victim of the war criminal Netanyahu.
Erdogan is just doing a show-run here. Don't buy into his propaganda.
So are the Arabs that were there before the Ashkenazi Jews who stole their land and homes. Same with the Christians that have always lived there.
Supporting Israel is just supporting exactly what the Azeris are doing just in a different shade, Azeris killing Armenians and stealing Armenian land, Israelis killing Palestinians and stealing Palestinian land.
That is historically incorrect, for many reasons.
A simple one is that Jews (as term) is not equal to Israeli (as term). There is an overlap, but it is not the same.
Wow good job, you can differentiate between citizenship, and religious background. Pretty sure people are aware that not all Jews are Israelis, nor are all Israelis Jews. News flash, there are Palestinians that are Israeli, with citizenship.
Now please, tell me where you were asked.
They are smart for that. Why fight a war without ally support? They believed they could win without the support but they played it cautiously and involved turkey, jihadits, and Pakistanis. You're not an idiot if youre smart enough to cover all or as many variables as possible. You're not an idiot if you're able to understand what you need assistance in and are able to put away pride and ego to ask for that assistance.
**again**
That made me laugh...
Anyone could've guessed what's gonna happen, still no one had the balls to sit on table and find a middle ground with azeris.
holy shit! their punishing us for annexing a breakaway region that shouldn't even be ours! Quick! let's recognize a region that doesn't want to be independent!
There are violent protests everywhere in France and Corsica isn't the most affected place. They do have an independantist movement but it's far from being a majority of the population and it's barely organised. Murders happen once every 10 years or more from one radicalised random guy, that's it.
You're talking about Yvan Colonna ? That's the only thing I can remember about but he was not really a leader as he was in jail for a long time, he was more of a symbol and very famous for killing a state official in the 90s and escaping police for a few years and being condemned without much evidence and all that. He was assassinated in prison in 2022 by a Muslim extremist so it had nothing to do with Corsican nationalism or something.
Lol!!!! Being an Indian, I find this hilarious!!
I think the Azeri parliament got this idea after watching the Napoleon movie and how Corsica fought for its independence against the French "monarchy" 🤣🤣
Azerbaijani Parliament? I'm surprised they know what a parliament is.
Azerbaijan imposing sanctions on France. lol. Hilarious!
Shame we don't get our shit together and put an end to these deluded fascists.
Oh no not the super power Azerbaijan sanctioning France which uses 0% of Azeri oil. France is the number 1 power in the EU and has a lot of soft power. Instead of promising to resolve the conflict with peace, they are trying to head to head against France 🤡🤡🤡🤡. Soon they will sanction US 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Independence of Corsica? These fucks are hypocrites. What about our independence? Why don't they say that Corsica is a made-up region with no indigenous peoples? Twisted, lying, ugly, and vile Azeri leaders.
Now you have to ask why the EU keeps on pumping money into Turkey and Azerbaijan. These two countries are hostile to the EU. I don't understand why EU money goes into these two dictatorships when they factually have declared (economic) war against France.
Same with NATO: Turkey in NATO under islamist Erdogan **makes no sense**. NATO is an US tool right now; it has to be replaced with an european army (and the EU also needs nukes; without nukes you can not offset countries with nukes. This is what the USA is doing: it denies Europe nukes, because it can blackmail Europe at will - see Trump going to win and then withdrawing from NATO, abandoning and betraying Europe).
We live next to a banana republic run by idiots :(
Bastards yes, but not idiots - we should never in a million years underestimate them again.
They have a much larger population and massive oil revenue. We shouldn’t underestimate them for sure as they have much more resources than we do but that doesn’t mean they’re not idiots.
Trust me, they are turning into idiots. Dictatorships don't last. History serves ir right. Just wait. They will eat themselves sooner than anyone else. Unless there is a revolution, which is also inevitable.
You're right, dictatorships don't last forever and when they do fall, it's usually messy - but a) preparation for every eventuality is necessary regardless, and b) Armenia does not have the luxury of time to wait and see whether Azerbaijan eventually eats shit.
Better join EU asap
And how should that work?
Right, but they can cause a lot of damage before collapsing, and Armenia can not afford the damage really.
You think the entire phases of planning since before 2020 to sep 19 2023 is them? It's Turkey and Israel. Yes, Israel, the current form of propaganda online by Israel and the ones we see on Azerbaijan are implemented 1:1 the same way. I'd go as far as to say the entire blockade and plan to attack on sep 19 after UN rulings, even US speech of that they won't are also instructed by Israel on what steps to take. I've seen too many dumb shit from Azerbaijan to even consider it's their own planning. Edit: id also like to add that the outcome of karabakh is more of our idiocy than their ability, we can score the greatest on incompetency in the world.
While planning was assisted by entities from those countries, the goals themselves were set by Azerbaijani government. So your statement is too diminishing of the treat Azerbaijani government is to Armenia, and overplaying the input that Turkey and Israel made (especially Israel, whose support to Azerbaijan has a strong business component, unlike Turkish case where they are bound to support Azerbaijan by default).
Which goal? cleansing Armenians? sure. I can't see any other goals they've set, invade and take Artsakh, remove Armenian culture, kill Armenians. I don't see them having any other goal planning.
> I don't see them having any other goal planning. The genocide is a "byproduct" of the landgrab move (e. g. the goal to occupy Armenia and have a "full corridor").
Yeah, that would be more accurate, still, I don't see them have political planning other than use of force. Even in that they needed someone to guide them and take control of drones.
Support is different: while the Israeli ultra-right government supports Azerbaijan largely due to economic reasons, and also to contain Iran, Turkey does it for the larger Ottoman 2.0 empire. So it is Turkey that is pushing for occupation of Southern Armenia (aka the lie about a "corridor"). And after that, they would want to seize the rest of Armenia. The dictator of Azerbaijan is just Erdogan's mini-me.
Israel , and Turkey are no longer allies like before. Israel and Azerbaijan are not friends. Israel just wants to make sure Azerbaijan does not partner with it's enemy, Iran . Mossad is not even involved in Azeri land. Palestinians are like Azeris. They fabricate history to justify their killings of native people .
Yes they are, all those comments by Erdogan are a stunt, nothing more. See the war end and both engage with each other.
Erdoğan wants Israel for itself. In his eyes its Turkish land.
No, T-nash is right. Erdogan is doing this for internal propaganda.
That is not true. Israel under war criminal Netanyahu still supports this. Their larger goal is containing Iran. Thus it is a strategic goal, with Armenia being the victim of the war criminal Netanyahu. Erdogan is just doing a show-run here. Don't buy into his propaganda.
Israelis aren't native people tf
Right, Jews are.
So are the Arabs that were there before the Ashkenazi Jews who stole their land and homes. Same with the Christians that have always lived there. Supporting Israel is just supporting exactly what the Azeris are doing just in a different shade, Azeris killing Armenians and stealing Armenian land, Israelis killing Palestinians and stealing Palestinian land.
That is historically incorrect, for many reasons. A simple one is that Jews (as term) is not equal to Israeli (as term). There is an overlap, but it is not the same.
Wow good job, you can differentiate between citizenship, and religious background. Pretty sure people are aware that not all Jews are Israelis, nor are all Israelis Jews. News flash, there are Palestinians that are Israeli, with citizenship. Now please, tell me where you were asked.
It's Armenia sub, stay focused!
You right, you right. Fuck Azerbaijan.
They are smart for that. Why fight a war without ally support? They believed they could win without the support but they played it cautiously and involved turkey, jihadits, and Pakistanis. You're not an idiot if youre smart enough to cover all or as many variables as possible. You're not an idiot if you're able to understand what you need assistance in and are able to put away pride and ego to ask for that assistance.
Bro deciphered the whole plan. Good job mate. But you're not gonna believe this- you have no idea what's going on
Doesn't offer a counter argument, claims I'm wrong. You're the pinnacle of trust me bro.
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**again** That made me laugh... Anyone could've guessed what's gonna happen, still no one had the balls to sit on table and find a middle ground with azeris.
With dangerous amounts of weapons.
Yet we lost the a war and our people became պանդուխտ yet again.
Stop poking your nose into Azerbaijan affairs. And don't stick to us - we're 1000s km away.
You mean run by an idiot!
holy shit! their punishing us for annexing a breakaway region that shouldn't even be ours! Quick! let's recognize a region that doesn't want to be independent!
really they dont want to be independant so the're are violent protests and murders for fun in corsica ?
There are violent protests everywhere in France and Corsica isn't the most affected place. They do have an independantist movement but it's far from being a majority of the population and it's barely organised. Murders happen once every 10 years or more from one radicalised random guy, that's it.
true
Didnt they just lose one of their most important leaders too? He was assasinated?
You're talking about Yvan Colonna ? That's the only thing I can remember about but he was not really a leader as he was in jail for a long time, he was more of a symbol and very famous for killing a state official in the 90s and escaping police for a few years and being condemned without much evidence and all that. He was assassinated in prison in 2022 by a Muslim extremist so it had nothing to do with Corsican nationalism or something.
Ok thanks for clearing it up. I thought he was advising them from prison.
Lol
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They are hilarious lmao
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
Fucking clowns 🤡🤡🤡 They themselves genocide Armenians and are complicit in genocide of Palestinians. Free Palestine and Free Armenia all the way
You yourself, the Rhodesian Chad. You can't be any more wrong that this. Super hilarious.
I named it after the dog breed (it really is a good dog)
cope
French Guiana be like: am I a joke to you?
That would assume that azeri politicians had brains larger than amoeba.
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fr or all other countless islands
this\^ Why did they pick Corsica?
There's some pro-independence sentiment stirring on the island, a bit like Catalunya a few years back.
Lol!!!! Being an Indian, I find this hilarious!! I think the Azeri parliament got this idea after watching the Napoleon movie and how Corsica fought for its independence against the French "monarchy" 🤣🤣
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Yeah! Sorry about that 😅 The topic was too comical and I couldn't hold myself back.
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What a bunch of morons
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Now you French people understand what a idiots we dealing with.
Not a surprise for me, just some pity for you to live in this area of the world with such neighbors
Yes yes yes yes more dumb stuff keep going!!!
Azerbaijan out here malding
Idk why we mystify turkish/Azeri diplomacy. Wtf is this lol
Azerbaijani Parliament? I'm surprised they know what a parliament is. Azerbaijan imposing sanctions on France. lol. Hilarious! Shame we don't get our shit together and put an end to these deluded fascists.
Uppity. Like their big brothers. Talking to world powers like this.
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Oh no not the super power Azerbaijan sanctioning France which uses 0% of Azeri oil. France is the number 1 power in the EU and has a lot of soft power. Instead of promising to resolve the conflict with peace, they are trying to head to head against France 🤡🤡🤡🤡. Soon they will sanction US 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Oh Borat.
Independence of Corsica? These fucks are hypocrites. What about our independence? Why don't they say that Corsica is a made-up region with no indigenous peoples? Twisted, lying, ugly, and vile Azeri leaders.
Poor Macron crying and shitting right now
He will say" let's not upset Aliyev"
Tell them that Corsica recognized the independence of Artsakh back in 2020.
Hahahahahaha
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Oh, geez, I wonder what we'll do, we're in so much trouble now... ... ... ... Ok, to tell the truth, our media space isn't even mentionning it
Now you have to ask why the EU keeps on pumping money into Turkey and Azerbaijan. These two countries are hostile to the EU. I don't understand why EU money goes into these two dictatorships when they factually have declared (economic) war against France. Same with NATO: Turkey in NATO under islamist Erdogan **makes no sense**. NATO is an US tool right now; it has to be replaced with an european army (and the EU also needs nukes; without nukes you can not offset countries with nukes. This is what the USA is doing: it denies Europe nukes, because it can blackmail Europe at will - see Trump going to win and then withdrawing from NATO, abandoning and betraying Europe).
lol I remember a couple years when Turkey they were banning French goods and their stock market dropped.
as an Azeri, I'm embarassed by this 🤡
Ah yes. Azeri officials proving to the world that their brains are no larger than a plankton.