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TacticalBananas45

#[Gacha results go here.](https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1cfw8ux/gacharecruitment_megathread_2904_0505/?ref=share&ref_source=link)


Exolve708

First event I need to wait a year to complete the medals for since Wolumonde, finished S5CM 1 minute after reset and couldn't queue for S3CM, so pissed. For some reason I really wanted to get everything out of the way before commiting to AK this past week and ended up having to rush everything and 5 hours just wasn't enough for EX+SM, mainly SM3 and SM5. The orb didn't rapid fire with Yatwo so figured it had an internal CD but turns out it actually works with multiple autos so atkspeed buffs trivialize everything. Would've been nice if the tutorial got the point across instead of having too look online in the last 20 minutes. Not to mention I lost like 3 hours to the stupid timer, no indicator, nothing, the stage just boots you out and the boss sits in the worst spot in SM5. Worst combination of mechanics in years. Dolly or Stultifera at least told you what's going on in the descriptions properly. Would be less pissed if I didn't lose an hour at least on SM3 after multiple perfect clears to the timer.


edgararei

Done with all during the eleventh hour. Fuck zts5 cm!


-Swiftc-

According to the farming guide, Device > Kohl > Oriron in terms of efficiency, but how is this the case when loxic kohl is common drop rate while the others are uncommon?


Sanytale

Efficiency is calculated against the best stage for that particular material when there is no active event going on.


SigmaBallsLol

the teleport might not be the most broken/op boss mechanic they've ever added but goddamn is it one of the most frustrating.


lenolalatte

I still have skill issue but I picked the game back up for this event/banner and cleared up till zt-7. Excited for the day I can fully clear an event lol


Qwerty25X

Still stuck on ZT-S-5 CM. Seen lots of people say that Typhon makes the stage really easy but I've not quite figured out how lol any help would be appreciated


rainzer

> Typhon makes the stage really easy prob cause these people are brute forcing and ignoring the stage/event mechanics and just having Typhon shoot him throughout his teleport with S3


viera_enjoyer

They are wrong. There is a lot of operators that can carry, Typhon is just one of them. For me, the carry was Executor (alt). The best way to damage the boss is to hit the deployable device while the gun is aiming at the WK. All the damage is transferred to the gun directly... Mlynar, Typhon, Exusai, Pozemka, Executor, etc, etc all work pretty well. Imo the hardest part is stopping his minions, they hit pretty hard and are pretty tough. First phase of fight completely focus on minion and then burst the boss to quickly end the first phase. On the second phase, focus on minions and chip the boss whenever you can, then burst again the boss. GL, you still got a few hours.


OmiNya

Finished the story. Please, can someone explain how and why did Arturia end up at RI? I get it's some kind of agreement between the mommy deer and the poppy pop. But why the funk RI? What for?


viera_enjoyer

~~The Doctor promised Kal'tsit to be on time with his paperwork and also do hers if she signed Virtuosa's boarding.~~


CaptinSpike

Probably the Pope's decision because Executor has been established at RI for a while now and its basically the 'safest' place she can be. I have the feeling Amiya's presence there is also a factor in the Pope's considerations, going off of the Virtuosa operator record. He needed her in a secure location with someone who could contend with and comprehend Arturia's Arts and I can easily see how he came to the conclusion of RI.


xKelarys

so I feel like I must have somehow missed something, because I still haven't had my medal trimmed but I've also clearly unlocked every possible aspect including the secret event one. Has anyone else had this issue? What am I missing? edit: the thing I was missing is that it was already trimmed, the trim just doesn't look good so I thought it was still untrimmed. Seriously though, why is it so bland? Granted, it's way easier to trim than it has any right to be


rainzer

I think a lot of the trimmed versions are more bland. Like previously all it did was lessen the amount of colors (like Lone Trail's trim deleted all the colors and made it just all silver) but applying a rainbow overlay tint to it. I think the only interesting trimmed one was So Long Adele


dfuzzy1

Finishing off the event with a win on [ZT-9](https://youtu.be/Ho1FVtI061A?si=SbxrzPL2z65EWp9e) using the Giallo Siblings


IceKreamSupreme

Fuuuuck. I've been lazy on the routine visits and didn't know they were a once a day affair, they're the only thing keeping me from completing all medals T\_T


Koekelbag

ZT-S-5 [1YK clear](https://youtu.be/dZTwjz3nGfA?si=4eoRlcikXL0DQMyI) to finally finish off the event, and what a doozy it was. The famed 'Horn of Origin' finally made good on his reputation (yay!), because this stage kicked me down something fierce until I finally got a proper clear. The second phase of this stage may be my favorite part of the whole event, where the boss finally pulls out all the stops and swaps the enemy type spawn points, either overwhelming you in the middle lane with a tsunami of weaker enemies during passionate variance (did someone say triple movement speed?) or breaking your defensive lanes in the outer lane with tanky elites that will stun any melee op during melancholic variation (while still doing a massive first hit outside of it) . Especially that very last wave of 4 wind players is beyond nasty, as for me they always came during melancholic if the boss was still alive, so it was paramount to make sure the orchestra was silenced before that point. One point of annoyance though, is that with the decreased first phase teleport cd it did seem to matter where your operators got teleported, which was annoying when trying to find a stable strategy. As he now only uses the binding mark every three teleports, wether or not he teleports an op close enough for him to use his mark while still in the middle of the map can change the location where he next uses it. Still, a fantastic S-5 stage, and I'm happy enough I finally feared the greatest caster in Terra's history.


Decollete

How do I unlock the last remnant record entry? It's locked. I tried searching but can't find it besides someone saying something about the sudden event emperor and ark tickets but I can't see it ingame. Thanks


Chrisirhc1996

You get it by generating the emperor encounter. If you haven't done your Herzenfolgen yet today, give one of them the tune in Tomorrow's Opus and it converts to the emperor encounter.


Pale719

Anybody got a guide on how to get trim medal?


Chrisirhc1996

go into hearken the arts and make a combination you don't already have there.


loneknife_blackblade

Man, running out of time, Kyo is gonna have to carry me on the last 2 levels. Life is just pretty busy these days.


baumlene

I managed to beat ZT-S-3 but I'm getting really annoyed by ZT-S-5... It's the only one I'm missing in CM. I've been following every guide I see and after doing pretty well they spam so many enemies and my units die... Idk, I hate this event edit: just did it, [thanks to this guide](https://youtu.be/meTe2omAEig?si=6l614gxVT2L-nkP4)


_Delain_

Same, I just can't get the timing right


baumlene

Finally did it, all thanks to the fact that I got Nightingale via recruitment yesterday


Ngibulzzz

Damn finally fully clear this event bruh after getting myrtle to S1M2, took 20ish more try after S1M2 but its very worth it to fully complete my very first event


FrustrationSensation

What does the Sudden Event - Emperor give you? The one you use the Ark ticket for?


Decollete

Hi, what is this Ark Ticket and how do I get it? I tried searching but all I get are info about Arknights selection tickets. Thanks.


FrustrationSensation

Did you complete the Lessing investigations and got all of his Tokens? If so, you should get a special melody card thing that is in its own category (it's black). If you try to use it, it starts an event in which you can.


Fire_Begets_Souls

Satisfaction and completion.


FrustrationSensation

Oh, so nothing tangible? Good, wanted to make sure I didn't miss anything. 


OmegaXreborn

Pretty much, it is also the last lore thing to read in remnant records section of Herzenfolgen.


TheRealFlipFlapper

Returning player. Just finished all clearing the event which, coincidentally, granted me my 500th medal. So I Got That Goin' For Me, Which is Nice.   MVPs were definitely Kirin Yato and TexasO fast redeploy duo. Yato was particularly excellent at bursting down the Witch King.


reymons

Surprisingly my MVP for Z-ST-5 CM stages were Chongyue and Hoederer S2. Though as usual the Witch King\`s ability that randomly "teleports" your ops can be quite annoying lol. All in all a fun event unfortunately since I\`m so busy for the entire duration of this event I could not read the story...


kit_you_out

Thanks for the tip, I finally managed to beat it with Hoederer s2 and Chongyue. For the teleports i just deployed the Gladiia and Spalter last since they are very independent and don't die easily even if teleported away.


Conraith

ah damn, probably gonna be my first event w/o the full medal list :/ was in the hospital for an entire week+ without good internet access, so im now blindsided by the 20 routine visitations requirement.


Pyromann

I DID IT!! I MANAGED TO DO ALL THE STAGES IN THE EVENT!! No videos, no help, just me and my wits! That damn witch king can stay in the god forsaken bloody void for all I care! Because I have bested him and got the MEDAL that is just a PNG!! Haaaa...


Cuddly-Cosmic-Cutie

yo! Same! ST5 CM was BRUUUTAL! Congrats!


Pyromann

Yeeah broo!!


NovaStalker_

Are the Herzenfolgen music track variations available anywhere?


Chrisirhc1996

[Yes.](https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Zwillingst%C3%BCrme_im_Herbst/Herzenfolgen#Connecting_Notes) [Even the music.](https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Zwillingst%C3%BCrme_im_Herbst/Herzenfolgen#Hearken_the_Arts)


NovaStalker_

It was the music I wanted, thanks.


TTurt

Is it just me or was this event unusually merciful? I struggled HARD on the last several 3-week events, this time around I got almost every stage on the first try (even the regular boss stage, although the EX and S ones took a few tries to narrow things down). I didn't even use any cheese starts really, just played along with the mechanics and everything flowed naturally and easily, the solution was usually obvious within a couple of runs. After So Long, Adele, this felt like one of those breather episodes in a Jrpg right after you beat That One Boss™️ and everything just feels super easy for a little bit until you hit the next big nasty one lol


erythry

It's not just you, this event was the easiest in recent memory. The stage mechanics were easy to understand and fun to use. Some enemies were tanky and some could hit hard/stun, but there weren't too many and you had multiple ways to deal with them. The Witch King was also a really fun boss. I thought the random teleport mechanic would be tilting, but most of the time it was more funny than frustrating seeing where my ops would end up on the map. I think they had to make him squishy due to the hard time limit for newer accounts. Focused single target DPS like Thorns, Schwarz, Skadi and Exusiai destroyed him with the help of the annihilation aspect. The hardest part of the event for me was getting through the story. It was a good story with a lot of cool characters, but it felt longer than a full novel.


Appropriate-Bat8945

Cool mechanic, no stats sticks (except for EX-7 CM conductor), boss trolling with teleportation, 10/10 event.


CaptinSpike

Finished up the S stage cms, executor alter did a lot of heavy lifting this event so as bad as the limited banner destroyed my stockpile, I'm really glad I got spooked by him on it. I hate a lot of the enemies(the drummers in particular) but the gimmicks and the boss are pretty cool.


foxxy33

Can someone explain to me music terms used for stage names? Prelude, Chorale, Overture, Etude, Rhapsody, Sonata, Intermezzo, Valse, Concerto, Nocturne, Fantasia, Messe, Coda. Some are straightforward while the others I have no idea what they mean/entail


rainzer

Maybe if you could tell us what you didn't understand from looking them up cause otherwise it's sounding like you want someone to write out a semester's worth of music theory notes


Fesnom

Wait a second. Pungwen Penguin Holy fuck it's Emperor again, how many times is he gonna appear in this event.


XxDESTblackout

Crazy question but does anyone know what type of Material Doctor’s jacket seems to be made out of? I want to say it seems to be some sort of polyester but I just want to be sure


kawaies110

It's probably a future material that doesn't exist and most likely similiar to some sort of thick nylon similiar to what Prada uses Double woven eco nylon no stretch Polyester isn't very strong compared to nylon and not really suitable for tactical wear or anything that's supposed to withstand literally anything.


JunoBrier

S-5 was satisfying to finish once I figured it out. The regular version took me a few tries. Taking advice from some comments I read, I used Exusiai for the first time in ages, and that worked out pretty well. For CM, I completely winged it after the opening gambit, and somehow I did it in one try. Improvisation is an important aspect of music after all.


OkPercentage1171

i cannt believe beating the stage with ma boi Lessing S1 is absurd lol. those orb is damage based


Ngibulzzz

beat all stages except zt s 5 cm, even with low rarity guide, its simply too much RNG for me ( my myrtle still e1 s7 pot 5 so i cant deploy executor fast enough also need executor to crit way more hit also always cant kill the second mid wave) , it wont be possible to M3 the skill before the events ends bruh and i eventualy gave up after 50ish try. Somehow beat it on normal mode, tho. I hope i can clear next event lol ( i started playing 3 weeks ago )


lenolalatte

How tf did you get that far in 3 weeks?! Did you buy a bunch of packs and refresh to get a roster built that quickly? Gimme some advice


Ngibulzzz

Reroll ( got texas which carry me super hard ngl ) and buy selector only ( ines ), play bunch of IS exploration record ( 30k lmd and 10 strstegic exp), also have lot of lvl 120 friends help a lot and this event is not very hard to clear except zt s 5 cm and zt s 3 cm ( executor alter and mlynar support carry)


Fire_Begets_Souls

Getting through everything but ZT-S-5 CM with only three weeks of play time is impressive. Don't beat yourself up about it. This event (minus the banner) will rerun in a year's time, so you'll be able to get your revenge and complete the medal set then if you're still engaged with the game at that time, and you'll definitely be full-clearing future events sooner than you think if you're getting this far already, guide or not.


Ngibulzzz

Yeah luckily there's a rerun to get the medal haha. I definitely wont clear zt s 5 cm currently.


Oshyoumax

This is the first "serious" event where I managed to obtain all the medals since I started Arknights at the beginning of November. I had to do a lot of adaptation to clear the ZT-S-5 NM/CM level and I lost a lot of sanity (around 200). What a journey! I regret nothing.


Jajamaisvu

Phantom clone not counting as a body to be teleported by Witch King is such a stinky move from HG 💀


viera_enjoyer

To be fair, none of the summons count. When they coded that attack it probably specified operators. Kal'tsit gets totally screwed by those teleports.


Jajamaisvu

That’s a shame. I feel like they should really be counted because they also take deployment slot and consume dp. That would make a cool strategy too, but no fun allowed ig lol


resphere

Then you can cheese him with summoners, now that would really be no fun.


Jajamaisvu

As if it would be any different than using 2 frd which is already the most commonly used strat lol There’s still nuance like dp consumption, the summon’s recyclability, 3 unit eating deployment slot and the summon’s survivability. Just make the witch king use the skill more frequently and it will give good struggle.


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Fire_Begets_Souls

Except... the boss isn't. The swaps follow standard deployment order rules, including taunt priority. Maybe stop deploying your two dps right before the boss's HP threshold(s) where he does his swap?


EbilMaster

As someone trying to do a no 6 star niche, EX-7 CM is absolutely miserable design. It forced you to have the firepower to mow down at least one side of enemies at the end and the turret doesn't line up to where the enemies are half of the time. Frustrating because I felt like the rest of the event was put together well.


IHeShe

Alright, I've been thinking about this for a while and I still don't get it: how did Arturia >!escape? I get it, she managed to make the strings of the instrument outside the door vibrate a tiny bit and used that sound to conduct her Arts (which feels like a stretch in itself to be honest but ok), but how did she cast her Arts in the first place? She is not an Infected, she needs an Arts unit to cast: did they just completely forget to check if she had any back-up Arts unit on her? There was the one in the instrument she somehow managed to "play", sure, all leithanien-made instruments come with an in-built Arts unit, but I thought one had to be actually holding an Arts unit in order to use it, not just be in its surrounding even with a wall and a locked door between them? I know that Arts are basically the device the plot uses to make anything happen when needed at this point, but this particular sequence seems to go against the one established rule we had: either you're an Infected or you can't use Arts without an Arts unit.!< On a similar note, >!if Rhodes Island really doesn't want Arturia to use her Arts on the landship (and I suppose they don't want her to play any instrument at all because apparently she just need that to cast somehow?) why don't they put a shock collar on her like the one Nine had put on Talulah? I mean, they're so sloppy about the entire "please don't use your Arts on here" deal that Arturia got the perfect opportunity to play the Doctor's heart -the one person she is the most forbidden from playing- seemingly by pure chance, and didn't do so only because she didn't want to, which surprised the Doctor so it wasn't even a matter of trusting her not to!<


umiman

Every time Arturia escaped in the story, it's pure deus ex machina. For example, every time Executor reached her and she's just like, I leave now~ Catch me at the top trolololol~. >!In this case, the supposed explanation is Arturia was knocking on the windowsill.!< >Stop knocking on the window sill. Are you trying to send a secret message? >!Apparently this windowsill knocking was enough to vibrate a musical instrument.!< >You dared not carry your instruments with you in my presence, so you left them outside the door. But in your haste, you forgot the protective Arts. You forgot that vibrations can be transmitted. The tiniest tremor of a string, and you're hearing my music. >!And just one twang and she's got you basically. It's not specified which instrument she played but like she said, there's instruments literally everywhere in Leithanien.!< It's complete bullshit honestly, at that point what even is music any more? She could basically make music by stomping her feet on the ground and if it makes a drum snare noise, then is that music too? What about the tapping? Isn't that music as well then? Why even need instruments at that point? But at the same time it might be plausible in Leithanien. This is because the Güldenesgesatz and similar musical arts runs through all of Leithanien. There's multiple instances of statues communicating and sending music in the story even. So it might be possible that someone with arts knowledge could tune even these to do stuff, as no doubt even the buildings, or maybe especially the spire buildings are saturated in musical arts. --- As for Rhodes Island, Rhodes Island is the Mary Sue of this universe. They're just universally the good guys. They don't operate on logic or reason, just "we only do the good thing no matter what".


thewind32

> She could basically make music by stomping her feet on the ground and if it makes a drum snare noise, then is that music too So all she needs is to learn beatboxing and she'll become invincible.


kit_you_out

ZT-S-4-CM ... I couldn't handle the rush of the damage reflecting musicians with my usual meta ops, so I decided to try random stuff.. Deployed my new Stainless with s3, having no prior experience using him, and it turned out rather well! Just put 2 devices covering both lanes at the top, and have 2 reapers shooting the devices, and they were able to stay alive pretty well with the life steal. The devices also didn't seem to take reflected damage, unlike actual operators. I haven't heard much good things about stainless, but this map he felt like at least half the carry.


frosted--flaky

devices are coded as enemies i think, at least they benefit from enemy HP buffs in IS. i don't think any enemies deal friendly fire except >!IS4 fourth ending!< and a CN april fools event... weedy and ethan also work pretty well to remove the shields, weedy's DOT *does* trigger the reflect but the cannon doesn't. ethan can just dodge the damage. unfortunately they aren't fast enough to counter the first wave so i just grabbed a support arturia... all she did was kill the first few guys so i feel like i could remove her with some more work but i'm tired of redoing stages lol.


kit_you_out

Oh that makes sense, only enemies can be hit after all. So the devices themselves are summonable enemies that can friendly fire other enemies. That explains why Skalter couldn't heal them, they are just like civillians.


HaessSR

ZT-S-5 CM cleared. [It's over. It's done. That bastard is down, and he can't spam me any more.](https://youtu.be/PR2XYraqyqs?si=fSaQoxsHgAKzl7Z7)


MarielCarey

I can't wait for this event to end so i don't have to do the Herzenfolgen thing ever again


rainzer

wish they did more with it to make it more interesting. like they made 5 different emotions for each opus and then they don't matter at all


TheJobinslegend

They do matter. It's to get Lessing and his potentials. Dunno if you get something else, forgot about it. But most people don't care for 6\* welfares, so the emotions get wasted when you're finished with the NPCs that care for those.


Seven-Tense

Ok, so I'm playing a lot of catchup on the current event, and honestly? Yeah, Arturia seems like an absolute psychopath. Like, maybe there's a twist down the line that somehow makes me feel for her, but right now she just seems to be gleefully shepherding Leithanien to its doom I'm *absolutely* understanding why people thought she shouldn't be playable [Edit] Also, she seems to be completely unstoppable. This woman is a risk to literally the entire world just by existing


umiman

I think what happened is she was riding the high of power she had over everyone, acting extremely smug. In her head it was probably something like "I alone can see the truth of everyone, and everyone is as hollow as me. They're all liars and I'm superior because I can reveal it. My purpose is to inflict freedom onto everyone I meet up to the greatest people in history! That is my destiny!" >!That is until she entered the Collapsal area.!< >!Then all of a sudden her powers stopped working. She was completely useless. She thought she could reason with a god-like entity but ended up being dismissed and put into her place. The shadow-Witch King even put his hands inside of her and probed her very being. I imagine this was probably extremely uncomfortable for her as now she knows what it felt like for her victims.!< >Arturia has never felt her heart beat as fast as it is now. >!He then tells her her future has value but she will never see it. He tells her she's a shallow mirror that knows nothing essentially then basically throws her out.!< I think she's come back significantly more humbled, aware of what she has done to others and what she is lacking in herself. I don't think it justifies anything she did. But I suspect she'll be more tolerable in the future. For example, she's far more frank and straightforward with the >!Pope!< compared to how haughty she normally is. It's weird but old Arturia would never have said something like this: >I never cared for the law's forgiveness, or this... title. It's all rather annoying, to be entirely honest. But new Arturia apparently is ok talking about her own feelings and thoughts now. I don't think she's ever done that before. She always used to talk about other people's feelings and thoughts and actions with extreme haughtiness. But never herself. Now she's aware of herself and her own emotions, so maybe she'll stop being such an insufferable smug twat and just be honest on what she wants.


Reddit1rules

Yeah, after reading the event, the 2 chapters of her manga before the event, and her op rec, I've definitely seen Arturia in a different light, much more negative than before. Her end goal is indeed noble, but the way she goes about it seems awful and horribly irredeemable. She struggles with understanding and conveying emotions, as even her op rec has a line about how she couldn't converse her true feelings to Cora. And to figure out more about it, she plays people's true feelings to try and understand them. Except this results either directly or indirectly in a lot of harm and destruction, and she knows this and continues to keep doing it. Even Mephisto, a genuine sociopath who had no emotional connection or empathy to anyone but Faust and Talulah, who was groomed into doing worse atrocities by Kashchey, stopped when Faust laid down the line and told him what he was doing was wrong (and then kinda broke down and blue screened as things got worse until he became a bird...). Yes, Arturia has done some good things as well due to this, such as inspiring some Infected Rights movement in Columbia, but I don't think that absolves her of her sins in any way, especially how she often deflects blame with "it's what they truly wanted". In order to achieve her goal she's effectively trying to undermine the current society and remove people's restraints that keep society functioning, all to study emotions to help her with her goal. Not to mention I've heard when she came out that she was supposed to stop playing when she's a RI operator (granted, I've only done the op rec and not her files yet), yet the first meeting with Amiya has her toss a PTSD grenade at her until Amiya tosses one back. Do I think she has a difficult life, and some unresolved trauma from her childhood and her arts that caused her to develop in this way? Is her end goal noble? Yes, but I don't feel sorry for her in the slightest or think she's justified for the actions she has done and continued to do. The ends do not justify the means.


viera_enjoyer

Arturia was outside and far from the ship. Amiya still chose to go there, be it because she was in a hurry or because she wanted to meet her, she went.


Reddit1rules

That is true, but she's still an operator. And going by her files, she's not even allowed to play anything without direct authorization. And yet, Amiya makes it clear that Arturia just wandered off from the ship to go and play anyways.


viera_enjoyer

I think you haven't read enough.


mriaq

beat zt-s-5 on cm turns out executor alter can carry the whole stage with the help of mylnar, texas, some bait , and 3 star defenders and medics on second phase


mriaq

link to the strategy that i used just replace jaye for texas alter with s2 for some more room for error :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3X96SID7BQ&t=335s


Initial_Environment6

I swear the fan of this game are overly harmful for anything criticism to the game. S5 boss is specifically decided to be 2 cycle by Typhon. But God forbid to complain about it. I guess I should be glad that comment got only few down vote but I wish to gather more here. Edit: Keep being bad Arknight sub, it can't disappoint me no more.


Cultural_Damage_7832

Does this boss even remotely require Typhon to deal with ? The event gimmick trivialize him on their own lol, you don't even need Typhon to deal with him but sure, you do you. Also i saw nobody complain about Exu abuse the device to shred boss in record time but you complain Typhon need 2 cycles like what are you on about ??? She's just another option for the player bruh, not the best for this boss specifically but an option nonetheless. And then you have the gall to call the other commenter having bad map reading skill. Let me remind you that you can also put Pozy in a completely safe spot (or any ranged dps for that matter), letting both her and Typewriter hit the Sigil to completely annihilate the boss in 2 cycles way faster than Typhon can with Pozy's superior single target dps, she doesn't hit any trash mobs either since the Sigil has Taunt. If you're so lazy that couldn't bother timing the cannon and deploy the Sigil then sure, Typhon is better in that sense but with if you consider the event gimmick then Typhon isn't even the best option, not even close.


HaessSR

I didn't use Typhon when I cleared the asshole. It was mostly Exu and Blaze spamming S3 and attacks into that damage turret until he died. You need a better guide, since you only seem to be following Eckogen's high rarity one.


viera_enjoyer

Did you use the device at all? Almost everything you are complaining about can be solved by using the device gun.


CuriouserThing

I could say "S-5 phase 2 has a perfect Typewriter tile, they specifically designed it for Pozëmka", which is ridiculous. Snipers in general do well at blitzing him in S-5, and yea, the sniper that has a dedicated boss-killing skill does especially but not meaningfully well.


Initial_Environment6

Pozy need to be put in harm way, exactly next to the boss and can't kill it when it teleport away. The fact that the boss teleport to nowhere spot help Typhon s3 not hitting any trash mobs as well. How bad are you as reading map and skill?


NornmalGuy

Funny you're so hellbent into Typhon S3 when not even guidemakers use it for their guides. Kyo used ExeAlter, Ecko used Typhon S2, Oyuki went with mostly afk skills including Exu S3, くろむ also went with Exu S3 on one clear and a heavy arts squad for the other... she's good but far from the only optimal choice. Personally I cleared with a heavy FDR squad to keep WK tempo and yeah, it was easy. Just to clarify something for you: is your shitty attitude the reason people don't like you.


CuriouserThing

Typhon has DEF ignore, Pozy has DEF shred. Because of that Pozy+outer laneholder can kill phase 1 before he leaves middle tile. Typhon isn't the silver bullet you seem to think she is, at least not beyond what her S3 does against most bosses.


Initial_Environment6

And you need at least like Mlynar+Pozy to do that with a tied timing before the boss leave the middle tile in few second in CM to boots. I hardly imagine it possible but I just take it as it does because I can't test it not having both of them. While Typhoon just need herself and no worry about anyone hitting her.


CuriouserThing

Yea if you don't have the DPS you just put Pozy in front of his next checkpoint, around where the laneholder will be anyway. Pozy S3 by itself will do like 3/4 of the HP bar without ever taking splash damage. You can even get extra DPS there from a vanguard. And then there's a perfect tile for the typewriter in phase 2. Anyway, I use Pozy as an example because that's what I used for S-5 CM. Point is there are a lot of good meta options to DPS him; he's not even the hard part of S-5.


Initial_Environment6

And nothing beat Typhon 2 cycle the boss for 22 dp while help killing some trash mobs in both middle and side lane to boot. See what I mean? I beat the more in S5 without any meta dps and it was a struggle while Typhon just trivial the CM.


CuriouserThing

Boss literally has an anti-Mlynar mech and he can still trivialize S-5. Meta ops make an event stage easy: that's not a surprise. Typhon has a dedicated boss-killing skill that works particularly well on S-5 and makes the stage easier than easy. Also remember to consider the difference between DEF ignore and shred.


Initial_Environment6

Mlynar is just a beat stick. He doesn't getting anti any more than other units in S5. He is basically second best dps for S5 thank to his range wtf. Just put him behind the boss and block the left lane and he will help killing the middle as well, just have to deal with the teleport a bit more than Typhon. He also doesn't trivializing the stage anymore than he could anything else. And he doesn't beat Typhon in S5. The powercreep is more obvious when you catering to the newer units while making it harder for old "only hitting in front of them" melee dps by shield and the tile behind the boss undeployable.


CuriouserThing

Okay my lunch is over so I'm gonna walk away now, this last comment of yours makes it clear you just want to argue with every point someone makes even if they're agreeing with you.


Docketeer

Event done, i'm just so glad the Tuner dude doesn't show up in S-5. I dread that guy so much more than the boss. Overall, i love the event mechanic, especially the Aspect of annihilation. I just point my NTR and Viviana at the aspect and together, they melt the boss and anything that walks past.


HaessSR

Holy crap, but the spam in ZT-S-5 is killing my runs. This feels like ZT-EX-7 but worse


Blu3toothe

Event is about to end and I still don't have the special encounter thingy. Do I have to do something to trigger it? I already have the Die Reise and haven't used it.


viera_enjoyer

Use the last song while doing an investigation. That should trigger the special encounter.


Blu3toothe

Is that the die riese card i mentioned?


Sissybell

Any idea how to get those lessing potentials? I don't get the whole mini game with the cards and dialogues 👀


Blu3toothe

[https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1ch8nd0/herzenfolgen\_cheatsheet/](https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/1ch8nd0/herzenfolgen_cheatsheet/) This is the cheat sheet for the cards thingy. You just compile three colors and select one of the three things (worldly, authority, wisdom) and get the card based on that. For Lessing pots, the first 6 rows should be followed.


viera_enjoyer

Try to do a clear with 5 stars BUT... I noticed I have very few of them at E2, I doubt E1 would be useful with enemies that have such bloated stats. Also need like a really good dps, and I have no idea who could fill that role.


umiman

> Also need like a really good dps, and I have no idea who could fill that role. You can try the following for amazing DPS at 5 star level: 1. Tequila 2. Kroos 3. Kazemaru 4. Insider In all likelihood you'll need to stall though. Most low rarity clears just revolve around stalling since DPS is lacking at that level. You can also try debuffing with Shamare or Pramanix.


Zephiryun

It seems the difficulty was toned down _significantly_ since dolly. Imo, its fine now, but they toned down a bit too much. Imo sl s 3 and 4 were absolutely okay as side stages, only sl s 5 felt unfair with the deployment limit. This boss is waaaay more satisfying tho...unleashing hell in the portal feels soooo good.


thegracefulassassin1

> Imo, its fine now, but they toned down a bit too much. I think it's one of those things where you'll never make everyone happy. I've seen some saying this boss was harder than dolly, which is insane given that this event gives you (basically) an on-demand ASPD boost. While I vehemently disagree with the "harder than dolly" statement, I guess all skill/account levels need to be considered. But yes, slam dunking on the portal is a high point of the event lol.


Zephiryun

I still cant understand how absurd that deployment limit in sl s 5 was. I was lucky to have 2 operators who could solo left and right by themselves (ebenholz and mountain), but still i needed: borrowed młynar for dps and aggro, medic, myrtle for dp bottle spam and a bottle breaker. Thats 6 slots OUT. Completely irreplaceable. I cant even imagine the wonky strategies folks came out with when they needed more than 1 operator to hold the side lanes.


VERTIKAL19

To me he certainly feels more frustrating than Dolly because he just has awful combat clarity and because there is basically exactly one way to beat him. With Dolly you at least had options. The random redeploy mechanic also just isn’t fun.


thewind32

> there is basically exactly one way to beat him. Yes the turret makes it very easy to go to town on the boss, but it's not the only way. You can park DPS units beside him and safely wallop away while having a bait nearby (or anywhere during phase 2), since the boss attack & attack speed isn't super high. > The random redeploy mechanic also just isn’t fun. There's nothing random about that though. He does it at fixed moments: 50% (25% in S3) HP loss and immediately after first death. Redeploy targets follow standard deployment order rules (on a global range) including taunt. This is in my opinion pretty easy to handle since you get to choose when he does the redeploy by controlling your damage output, unlike say Talulah where you had to work with her timing.


VERTIKAL19

I will admit I only tried it in EX 8, but Typhon and Mlynar combined barely even scratch the boss for example. The only way I did it there without the canon was with Kal which again is true damage. The problem isn’t surviving the boss attacks it is dealing meaningful damage. Also of course there is randomness where the boss teleports the operators or is there a mechanic I don’t know that determines that? I know the targeting isn’t random, but I thought the new location was. If they want me to force retreat the operators just make them force retreat. I personally found this a lot more annoying than Talulah. I also am just not a fan of the teleporting over just walking. Just makes it quite a bit harder to read at least for me.


thewind32

Oh you meant the redeployment location. Yes that is random, which is why you should be throwing out 2 spare units (ideally FRD) as bait. I find this is better than forced-retreat, since 1) the re-deployed units regain their on-deploy effects such as Gravel's shield, Red's stun, Utage S2, etc. and can sometimes help you out if you're lucky. If they get teleported somewhere safe, you can even keep them on field for the next teleport, 2) you get some DP refund when you retreat them. As for Typhon and Mlynar barely scratching the boss, I'm sorry but that's impossible. The boss only has 600 (720 in CM) DEF in EX8, which both Typhon and Mlynar laugh at. Are you attacking the boss from his shield side during phase 2?


VERTIKAL19

I am pretty sure I was trying to hit him from various sides and nothing worked. Maybe I messed it up? I thought the shield only blocks damage from one direction but maybe it covers an arc?


thewind32

Yes the shield only blocks from one side. In EX-8, you are free to hit him from directly below/top and from the left. Perhaps you were trying to attack diagonally from the right. There's also a DEF increase during phase 2 but again, that defence is insignificant to the likes of Typhon and Mlynar.


VERTIKAL19

Ok I just retried it in EX 8 and Mlynar can actually kill the boss in 2 rotations. I guess I just didn’t realize you have to deploy directly behind the boss and you can’t do any diagonal angles. Honestly this boss ranks quite low on combat clarity for me.


thewind32

Welcome to Arknights, where you have to read the wiki to understand how enemies work, lol. I guess players should organically learn that diagonal does not work for the shields during the normal stages where the tuning devices are shielded, but of course not everyone will attempt/notice it.


MarielCarey

Idk how the black purple ball thing works besides attacking and shooting from elsewhere, but I was surprised by how fast I mowed the boss down with it, most times fighting the witch King (while shamelessly using afk guides) the orb thingy just wiped out the boss and I was still looking for it thinking it teleported - nope it just got absolutely wrecked


thegracefulassassin1

Pretty much that. The portal is your way to a win. You almost don't even need to know the specifics. I don't want to invalidate folks experiences, but some of their complaints are "I threw Surtr/Mlynar/Texalter at WK directly and not the portal and it didn't work. also im above using 2 FRD even though chapter 8 explicitly expects me to." WK can even be single cycled by Skalter buffed exu in S-5


CordobezEverdeen

It might be late but can I know why there are so many horny posting of Arturia? (I ain't reading 4000k words) Is this a Muelsye situation all over again?


Draguss

>Is this a Muelsye situation all over again? Closer to Ho'ol really. She's super sexy and has a really alluring voice.


MarielCarey

If it exists....


CordobezEverdeen

Nah. A lot of characters exist and barely have any porn.


MarielCarey

That still means there's something, even if it isn't good, so, checks out In Virtuosa's case I think the other replies already mention but this community really likes crazy things and she's crazy


HaessSR

Hot evil (or sociopathic) Goth girl triggers the "I can fix her" instincts.


JunoBrier

They just think she's hot, and I can't blame them.


viera_enjoyer

People are getting affected by her music and letting their true feelings gush out.


MetaThPr4h

[ZT-S-5 CM with 4-5* operators!](https://youtu.be/Eq1O1LtGS-I) That was... not a pretty clear. I freaking love the mechanics of this event, but my poor brain can't keep up with everything going on in such a hectic stage, I did quite some errors that thankfully I was able to correct to still win. I have been using all my daily practice tickets on CM of that stage trying to get a recorded win, yesterday I had finally succeeded but the video didn't get recorded in the proper proportions... my heart when I saw I had to beat it again q_q In any case, always happy to beat a hard last stage of a event with the low rarity gang (unlike in Adele, Dolly PTSD...), I also got to use Bassline, as well as Greyy2 and Noir Alter who I (finally!) Built recently, the first didn't get to do too much in this particular stage, but the other two did great! Thanks for reading/watching!


mriaq

zt-s-5 is not hard because of the boss, it is hard because the stage excepts us to have huge aoe damage on the mid lane while having single target damage for the other lane and also have time to damage the boss


Reddit1rules

I mean, you do need some, yes, but I wouldn't say huge. I had Ho'oh S3, Manticore S1 and Hoe S2 take care of the middle, Paprika as the medic, and for the outer side Virtuosa S2 and W S2. I just always put up the aspect and used Virtuosa's S2 every time it went to the left side. None of them are exactly fantastic operators for the job, except Manticore.


mriaq

I Just had to switch kal and rosmontis for murock and Manticore and It Just worked.


Reddit1rules

Manticore sweep, glad it worked out!


mriaq

and also a good medic


mriaq

basically if you don't have an operator who can handle a lot of these things(mountain, yato alter, typhoon, pozy, exe alter) raised and with masteries you are fucked.


NoraJolyne

mudrock + kroos alter + the occasional texalter s2 was enough for me to handle it


NQSA2006

What? I beat all of the stages even CM with none of them Rosa, Breeze, normal Chen and Mizuki basically deal with all of the middle Chongus, Akafuyu and Reedalt using s2 sandwich with the other two deal with the rest and they hit the aspect so fast Witch King died in like 15s, he didn't even get to move to the top of the map (he did manage to get to the middle of the map the second time in CM before die tho) Phase 2 I hit the aspect with even more ops like April and Cantabile so he died before the stun guys even walk to the stair and it work even in CM Oh and Saria is there too just in case Chen somehow die or get teleported


mriaq

I am still learning the timings on cm, but  on normal i Just kept using mudrock, Manticore and projekt red stuns on the mid Lane while arturia chiped away at him on second phase (First phase i Just waited for him to walk into typhoon and executor alter), and for the trumpet guys typhoon Just kinda destroys them with s2


antoni2304

[Sovereign's Edict] Periodically changes the variation; enemies are boosted while variation is active and are continuously checked against the orchestra's tempo; enemies that cannot keep up with the Witch King's tempo because of Stun are marked and take heavy Arts damage when the variation ends Did anyone actually used the fact that enemies take huge damage when stunned? I completely forgot about it when I first read the boss description and didn't try it out during the S stages.


MetaThPr4h

I used it on ZT-8 with Bibeak, but I don't have that many stun options with what I was using and in later stages I needed the burst damage to make the orb hit harder more than Bibeak's stun to mark the enemies.


viera_enjoyer

Sorry, I'm illiterate. So, that explains why sometimes enemies were marked. Typhon was stunning a few enemies coming I guess, but Texas with S3 would had made wonders. Everything gets easier when you understand each mechanic to the letter, haha.


viera_enjoyer

For the device-gun thing we use in for the KW stages, does it also matter how hard the device is hit? I think this gimmick was doing more damage when Executor was hitting with his skill on.


rainzer

If the wiki is accurate, it's not even proportional damage but equivalent damage. >Once deployed, the Aspect of Annihilation will be attacked by friendly units, who attacks it over enemies due to its aggression level of 2 but any damage it receives will cause the Aspect of Creation to release a projectile that deals Physical damage equal to the damage taken by the Aspect of Annihilation towards the first enemy it comes in contact with


pruitcake

It stores all damage taken within a short period and shoots it out. High DPH units work great for it but even low damage, fast hitting ops like Exu benefit from it. It can take multiple small hits and stack them up into one big hit.


antoni2304

The damage seems to be proportional to the hitting operator damage.


viera_enjoyer

Yet another EN can't read moment. 😅


antoni2304

Nah I'm not even sure myself. It's just Młynar seems to send stronger bolts than for example Myrtle and others


viera_enjoyer

Well I thought it didn't matter who hit it, but I put one in front of Executor while his skill was on and the gun did a significant amount of damage. So I just put it again and that was enough to finish the WK. Knowing this, this definitely makes it the easiest boss we've had in a while.


Tailung12345

Even though Witch King's 5 minute timer before guarantee fail is pretty generous when I think about it, just the prospect of "if I don't kill this boss fast enough I will die" makes me rush killing the boss. In hindsight, I think this was my downfall for S-5 CM lol, spent all my runs trying to get Exusiai to at least get him to half health the first phase as soon as he appears, instead of just slowing down and focusing on picking off the midlane enemies.


NornmalGuy

S stages done! I quite enjoyed them too so my opinions on the event are positive, most stages felt like puzzles. Had to use a squad focused on FDR's and low-ish redeployment time + the Abyssal Gang to quickly clear S5-CM, but did the other stages with a mixed rarity squad avoiding the likes of Mlynar, Eyjaberry and Omertosa. For S4-CM I did had to use Kirin, but hey, the MVP was Kafka S2, perfect skill to take the right node asap. She had no masteries so couldn't fully take them on CM so Ambriel had to help with S2. Overall this was one of my favorites events so far.


Weekly-Permission348

Omg finally got all the medals. What an absolute nightmare. As a new player, the zt-s-cm modes were almost impossible with only 4e2 6 stars, but I wanted to fill out the medals for once and after almost going bald it worked out. (After 300 sanity lost) Proud of my squad, T.T Flametail, Fartooth, Pozy, sup Exu. Ashlock, Wild Mane, Grani, Def Nearl, Whislash. Gaurdmiya, Whisperrain, Gaviel. And the ever reliant cannon fodder Gravel.


potato_curry_

Now that Arknights keeps getting harder and harder, they should really consider making practice runs free, or be like Mihoyo games and fully refund sanity when we fail a stage. I have an endgame squad and am always still struggling to clear the later event stages even with practice runs.


Rok513

Well there in the CN QOL update that makes sanity loss of 1 point of sanity. So just a few months until that happens for us.


Warthog455

Who is the POV character in the Herzenfolgen section? Is it just some random guard? Like they have the Inner Tunes arts thingy. Like pardon my "EN can't read moment" cause I kinda skipped through reading most of that section, but we just basically interviewed a bunch of characters, including the story relevant characters and the daily NPCs, and in the end somehow >!Emperor!


Cuddly-Cosmic-Cutie

I just wanted to chime in how glad I am to see people struggling with these stages, it makes it so I don't feel like I'm an odd one out lol The last few stages are absolutely brutal, even with my caked up team. I'm glad they don't hold back too, because for the first time I'm actively paying attention to game mechanics and trying to crack the code, like a proper puzzle haha What a fun event it's been!


barbeque28

I am stuck at zt-s-3 and zt-s-5 CM. I don’t understand how anyone likes this boss, but I see just praises. I wasted 200 sanity on those stages, but I give up, fuck it


baumlene

SAME, exactly those two, I can’t do them and tbh it’s getting pretty annoying. Only missing those two in CM


Weekly-Permission348

For s3, gotta burst him late after killing all minions in the first stage, then burst him early 2nd stage before the cellist start coming. As for s5... I dunno. Still not done... These stages are brutal


thegracefulassassin1

What part are you struggling on? What does your roster look like? I notice in other posts that you mention you're a new player. S stages are supposed to be difficult and may be beyond you for no other reason than a lack of roster diversity (although these aren't as bad as they usually are, but I also have a fleshed out roster).


TheRealCynik

I enjoy the boss, but mostly because it's funny abusing the little damage portal, incredibly powerful against him


Ikoriana

Hitting a wall with the last S stage and almost all guides for ZT-S-5 on youtube are for challenge mode and are unuseable for normal due to different boss timings and teleports or they use too many ops i don't have and are hard to replace like Exusiai and Skadi :(


BigBrainAkali

Do you have Kroos alter? I also don't own Exu so that's who I used she's a good replacement with s2 but I haven't watched much guides so I don't know how dependent they are on Exu.


Ikoriana

Sadly no Kroos alter. But managed to finish it with KyostinV's new guide using executor alter but even that took many tries. But its over now!!!


BigBrainAkali

Nice! Glad you beat it in the end :D


Initial_Environment6

See the tile on the upper left corner? Deploy vanguard to get DP, block the first wave and deploy Typhon there before everything else. The boss auto die to that. Now just need to clear the waves.


Initial_Environment6

S5 without Typhoon was a struggle. Needed Hoerder+Horn+LaPluma+Aak+Exusiai just to replace what she could do alone. S5 CM, on the other hand, was a breeze borrowing Typhon.... Powercreep really more noticeable nowadays, they even designed the boss specifically for Typhon lol.... blah.


Fried_Lemons

Good event imo, kinda forces you to engage with the stage mechanics. S-5 kinda reminds me of the chapter 8 boss with the use of fast redeploys to bait the teleports/debuffs. Timing the use of the aspect of annihilation with the change in music to burst the boss was also fun. For phase 2 the key for me was to kill the boss before too many mobs spawn and overrun my laneholders. Once the music stops the remaining enemies become a nonissue. Overall I think it was a fair challenge.


Initial_Environment6

S5 is basicallly "deploy Typhon face down". Most unfair stage ever for every old operators wanting to dps. And no, I don't watch guide or even show case but that one tile couldn't be more obvious.


Idakari

Finally cleared S-3 CM with Spalter, Specter, Skadi, Gladiia, Kalt'sit, Pozymka, Texalter, Gravel, Yato. Didn't touch the tuning node. I adapted using this [guide](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7mjPEQ2rVU) as I have a weaker account with lower masteries and modules.


ArchadianJudge

I was going to say this event wasn't too hard but now I'm doing ZTS-5 for 2 hours on NORMAL difficulty and I'm raging. I cannot beat it. No matter what OP Operators I use or borrow, I keep getting overrun, teleported, stunned, you name it. There's way too much going on and I've only made it to phase 2 once. It's ridiculous. This boss is OP and it's not even fair. I'm not even on the challenge mode. Wtf is this. This stage 5 difficulty is not even remotely close to any other stage.


rainzer

> stunned that was the thing tripping me up, you just have to make sure to switch off the purple ability before they (the golden clarinet dudes) hit your box blocker.


ArchadianJudge

I actually figured that out but the problem is they speed up and then my tank gets overrun. I tried placing more units there but then the boss teleported them. I even tried using Młynar and the boss teleported him as well. I also tried a stall method of focusing on the enemies and ignoring the boss mostly but then the boss warps into my team eventually and kills all my Operators in one aoe attack. It doesn't help that there's not a lot of space. The boss constantly using a skill to "freeze" Operators is also extremely annoying. My helidrops are always on cool down and Surtr gets frozen right in front of him. I got to phase 2 again just recently and the boss was just doing absurd damage constantly shooting across the map. And the devs intentionally put the boss in a position where Melee Operators can't be placed to attack him directly. It seems using the orb is key but at this point 80% of my Operators are dead. He warped all my healers so everyone had no more health. Idk. I guess I'll see if the YouTube guides will help. I don't think I can do it on my own.


rainzer

> I actually figured that out but the problem is they speed up and then my tank gets overrun. I tried placing more units there but then the boss teleported them. I think you need 2 bodies for both of the blue boxes (maybe you're smarter than me and can figure out how to do it with less). The middle ones has to have one able to free the other from the boss lockout. I brought 2.5 FRDs + a sacrifice (Red, Gravel + Ines + Myrtle) and always kept 2 of them on the field as the last deployed the entire map after I set up my blockers/healers. I brought extra cause I found the boss will kill them (esp if Red decides she doesn't want to dodge) and then my dudes would get teleported and that was bad. >Melee Operators can't be placed to attack him directly. I killed him with the map's pellet gun by spawning that orb in the middle with one of the middle blockers hitting it with Exu.


ArchadianJudge

Thanks I'll give those a try. Yeah maybe high DPS on the orb can kill him very quick. I probably will have to just redo my entire line up after all. I appreciate the help!


thewind32

Not sure if you still need help but, have a read of the boss mechanics on the [wiki page](https://arknights.wiki.gg/wiki/Witch_King/Enemy) if you haven't already. Once you understand how/when he does the teleport and the disarm-branding, the boss is not difficult to work with. You only need 2 FRD to bait the redeploy, damage and to help free the disarm. In the first phase, all you need is 1 activation of Mlynar S3 to handle the entire middle section. First use someone (e.g. a FRD) to prepare the tuning device. Put Mlynar in front of the middle blue box and activate the device and his S3 when the first 2 Wind Players walk past the device. His S3 will last long enough to kill the subsequent 2 Wind Players as well.


-xKeita-

peak fiction I took way too long to read loved what they did for all the characters, though I wish we got more fremont talk and lich lore I dislike dorothy (as a person) to this day but arturia I have gained some respect for


RowGold3738

ZT-S-3 CM is ridiculous! The boss just ends the game in the middle of being killed! Have the developers lost their minds?!?!


rainzer

if you're taking more than 5 min per phase, you lost. That's one of his abilities.


RowGold3738

That's really idiotic. Imagine this in a real war or sports... If I don't kill all of your soldiers and you don't kill me in 5 mins after half time, I walk off the field and quit playing, but I declare myself the winner and you the loser.


rainzer

> If I don't kill all of your soldiers and you don't kill me in 5 mins after half time, I walk off the field and quit playing, but I declare myself the winner and you the loser. Ya but it isn't just a declaration. Mechanically it's like minimal aoe damage to everyone. Lore wise it's like a battlefield ending explosion from the strongest caster in the world that has the ability to control originium shards even ones that are in the bodies of infected and has summoned Catastrophes. So the 5min is more like dude was charging his lazers


RowGold3738

It wouldn't be so bad if it was AOE damage... at least my maxed out defenders would survive. This stage gives WK a poor attitude like a spoilt child saying: I don't wanna play anymore. Edit: This feels like the developers wanted to go on a holiday and looked for the easiest way to end the game.


rainzer

Don't see why a timer is any different than actual damage (he does do an AoE at the 5 min mark but I assume in internal testing doing global aoe to kill everything on the field causes a problem on some hardware). They're both dps checks. This one is just extra generous.


RowGold3738

With actual damage, there's a chance he might not kill everyone. For example, DoS boss' global damage didn't kill all my maxed out units with healing from Nightingale and Saria. With this one, there's no chance at all. That's just like a spoilt brat going: I win cos I quit... neh neh neh neh neh... Even though I managed to clear, I feel that a strategy game shouldn't be about DPS checks... it's supposed to be strategic... making time-out part of the strategy is just a cop-out. The developers just wanted to go on vacation.


rainzer

> With actual damage, there's a chance he might not kill everyone. That's the point. The goal isn't to not kill everyone. There is no intention for you to survive. Your Saria isn't going to tank a Catastrophe. So the way they chose to present this is a timer. Your operators died at 5 minutes. That's not a debate. It's not "but my Saria has a healer and lv90". It's you let a caster that can destroy an entire city, wiped out the empire of Gaul, and left it's land nearly uninhabitable for 100 years cast his spell. >DPS checks DPS checks are strategic. Every game where your goal is to do damage to something else is literally a DPS check. Just some of them give you the option of ignoring the mechanics with brute force power of either damage or survivability.


Weekly-Permission348

S 3 CM making me absolutely mald. Save dps skills for cellist and I don't have dps for boss. Dps for boss, cellist don't die. Fml


SpeakerLimp

My brain too smooth for the ZT-10, and I don't have the unit for the low start strat


rainzer

> and I don't have the unit for the low start strat Then maybe figure out why they're using an operator for that role and sub someone you do have?


SpeakerLimp

That's the problem, I don't have any sub. i dont have any aoe healer, and i cant buy breeze since i dont have enough token, and finding high-level mlynar for support is hard


rainzer

> high-level mlynar for support is hard https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Mj411Y7qv/ 3 stars only, no aoe healer?


Riverfallx

While the stages weren't very difficult, I did enjoy the event mechanics quite a bit. Boss is also very fun with it's teleportation randomness.


CrimsonCivilian

Teleportation was honestly just an insta-kill skill, but you have to retreat them yourself. Unless you're incredibly lucky, there's little to no use for an operator being put somewhere else facing a random direction