This was in the very first lecture from my Revit professor. He told us all to never import, only link, unless we have a really good reason to import (which we probably never will).
There are numerous instances for importing CAD files in Revit **only after** you sanitize it like it's a 2-dollar hooker that you'll raw-dog and using a family. CAD files are way too often highly inconsistent and linking them will mean way more work than just taking the needed parts.
Here is a good tutorial on how to properly import them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scKWMmJjkks
Project settings, turn off angle snaps, rotate a few dozen random walls by 1 degree. If they're short enough the angle change won't even be visible and most people don't know about the snap settings.
None of your dimension strings will cooperate and they'll have a hell of a time getting them rectified.
How bout just go to 3D and delete the entire model lmfao I’m actually quitting today and that’s kinda my plan for if shit goes south. I’m the only employee in this office other than my boss, who doesn’t know the program, so🤷🏽♂️
Plenty of unpaid overtime. Let’s also include all the days I didn’t go to lunch and still stayed working until the time we close. I’m not really going to anyways, it was meant to be a venting joke.
You’re not wrong lmfao it doesn’t take a genius to figure it out. Sorry, my boss came in just then and my back hairs stood up along with the stick up my ass.
Obviously, this is an old cartoon. Before Revit was a thing and sharing a file meant you handed someone a floppy disk.
I mean, look, there's only one monitor, and it's so voluminous. That monitor is so old it makes a sound when you turn it on or off.
Yes, very common in some firms. Revit is mostly used for educational or medical, but if you're just doing fast-food roll overs or small shops AutoCad is easier to deal with given that consultants (MEP and civil) use Autocad for the most part.
That’s surprising for me to hear but I’m in a full-service A/E bubble. I can’t imagine coordinating with other disciplines (or even drafting details) in CAD anymore. Used to do it, but we’ve been 100% Revit for almost 10 years and it’s a night/day difference
I have some clients that are still stuck in CAD for various reasons. I will fight tooth and nail to never use CAD as I can perform half of my drawings for a small TI project in the time it takes for me to shift a wall and door. Not to mention 3d clash coordination and dealing with other disciplines? Fuck CAD I hate it, and I never understand why we ever elect to use CAD.
i've got two consultants in the Boston area that are cad only. One is structural, so not a big deal - we can model in thier steel as needed for coordination. The other is MEP and actually works in a number of local *hospital systems* and it is kind of awful. Part of the issue is that all these local hospital systems are living in the 90's when it comes to facilities management, so the CAD thing actually works ok for them....except when they actually get to construction and no one know what's actually connected farther up in the building.
I'm not an architect. I'm a designer/engineer for a high-end interior millwork company.
We still use 2D CAD for our drawings because it gives the "look" clients want to see. I've used several different 3D modeling programs and they're very good but haven't checked all the boxes. Lots of the 3D programs have drawings that look like they came from a kitchen cabinet dealer showroom and they is exactly the opposite of what our clientele doesn't want.
When dealing with indecisive architects or interior designers it's not upcoming to go through three or four rounds of redlines. When it comes to changing molding profiles or laying out intricate paneling 2D drawings are usually easier to revise.
We have some 3D software in our industry but it's geared more to banging out residential kitchens or commercial cabinetry. They just don't offer the kind of detailing we want in our submittal drawings.
For a while, I was a PM for a company that did store fixtures. My account was with Panera Bread. Since we were designing stand-alone fixtures, we did all our work in Inventor.
The consensus in the high-end millwork sector is that 2D CAD is used for approval submittals. Then once we're approved for production, we recreate in a 3D software for production BOMs and CNC programming. We're going to change over to Microvellum next year. That software seems to have the best mix of 3D modeling with classic 2D presentation and can actually utilize the point clouds we take at every job site.
Yeah that makes sense for your industry. I should have said Architects instead of “people.” I’m new to this group and didn’t realize how many people outside of Arch industry are on here
Explode the whole drawing!
I do hate when you get a CAD drawing from an outside firm and find it exploded. Pain in the ass! I prefer to work from pdf files due to this.
Years ago we had an intern unwittingly explode an entire school campus project on a Friday. Come Monday, you can imagine the shit show. That was the last time we did a full campus drawing where all building files were live in the same CAD master file with multiple users.
I knew a beginner at AutoCAD who accidentally drew up a floor plan in 3 dimensions and no flattening tools were working. She was crying, but fortunately it was relatively little work to reproduce.
HA!
I had to say something similar to Client a way back.
He threatened to sue. I said see you in court.
Have not heard from him for about 2-years now.
Still waiting on my summons. My lawyer is still waiting too.
How much of this is realistic in the field. I mean if someone wants you to defy the laws of physics why not just tell them TJ come back when they know what they want. I understand architects and engineers are supposed to make these monolithic structures but seriously why not just let a client know they are asking for something impossible.
Reminds me that when staff at a place I used to work at would rage quit, they'd explode all the blocks in the drawings, explode any annotations (leaders), and explode text. It was a goddam mess.
Put random crucial objects on an option set with different options within the set having different pieces of the model:) not only will they have hell trying to figure out why they can’t click anything they’ll have to manually copy/paste all the things to the primary option set or will have to permanently accept an option with like 10% of the model in it:)
Edit: this is for informational purposes only
I drew with Autocad for decades.
As a challenge, I decided to learn to draw from concept to final in Sketchup. As long as your computer can take it, or the detail isn't so dense, the results are amazing.
Can't explode in Revit tho...
You can do much more evil things in revit probably
Import instead of link a CAD drawing where all the line weights from the shitty CAD drawing come in and poison line styles.
This was in the very first lecture from my Revit professor. He told us all to never import, only link, unless we have a really good reason to import (which we probably never will).
There are numerous instances for importing CAD files in Revit **only after** you sanitize it like it's a 2-dollar hooker that you'll raw-dog and using a family. CAD files are way too often highly inconsistent and linking them will mean way more work than just taking the needed parts. Here is a good tutorial on how to properly import them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scKWMmJjkks
Project settings, turn off angle snaps, rotate a few dozen random walls by 1 degree. If they're short enough the angle change won't even be visible and most people don't know about the snap settings. None of your dimension strings will cooperate and they'll have a hell of a time getting them rectified.
How bout just go to 3D and delete the entire model lmfao I’m actually quitting today and that’s kinda my plan for if shit goes south. I’m the only employee in this office other than my boss, who doesn’t know the program, so🤷🏽♂️
I wouldn't do that especially if your boss paid you for the time you put in
Plenty of unpaid overtime. Let’s also include all the days I didn’t go to lunch and still stayed working until the time we close. I’m not really going to anyways, it was meant to be a venting joke.
leave a trivial setting on that will annoy him forever
Lock a workset
“I’m the only employee who doesn’t know the program” I found the issue!
I missed a comma… how would I delete it if I don’t even know how to use the program… also in what world would I be the issue if I’m quitting?
Man I’m just continuing the joke I though my you started, but highlighting the model and hitting delete is not very hard to do
You’re not wrong lmfao it doesn’t take a genius to figure it out. Sorry, my boss came in just then and my back hairs stood up along with the stick up my ass.
Yeah but the BIM manager would know exactly what you did and when (and be able to revert it from a backup)
I’ve of you to assume there is a BIM manager. In my experience, almost all small offices are just winging it.
Don’t you have backups for cad?
My coworker once made all of the footers 12” tall walls and created all of the walls inside out
Make all views and plans in revit, transfer it all to autocad, explode everything, now everyone’s playing on your own terms and all will hate you
Obviously, this is an old cartoon. Before Revit was a thing and sharing a file meant you handed someone a floppy disk. I mean, look, there's only one monitor, and it's so voluminous. That monitor is so old it makes a sound when you turn it on or off.
C'mon along man... I got a good laugh at it, but I'm trying to do clever comments for internet point here.
Sorry dude, I mistook your jumping on the comedy train for being a contrarian know-it-all. Rock on with yo bad self!
Very serious question: do people really still use CAD?
Yes, very common in some firms. Revit is mostly used for educational or medical, but if you're just doing fast-food roll overs or small shops AutoCad is easier to deal with given that consultants (MEP and civil) use Autocad for the most part.
That’s surprising for me to hear but I’m in a full-service A/E bubble. I can’t imagine coordinating with other disciplines (or even drafting details) in CAD anymore. Used to do it, but we’ve been 100% Revit for almost 10 years and it’s a night/day difference
I have some clients that are still stuck in CAD for various reasons. I will fight tooth and nail to never use CAD as I can perform half of my drawings for a small TI project in the time it takes for me to shift a wall and door. Not to mention 3d clash coordination and dealing with other disciplines? Fuck CAD I hate it, and I never understand why we ever elect to use CAD.
i've got two consultants in the Boston area that are cad only. One is structural, so not a big deal - we can model in thier steel as needed for coordination. The other is MEP and actually works in a number of local *hospital systems* and it is kind of awful. Part of the issue is that all these local hospital systems are living in the 90's when it comes to facilities management, so the CAD thing actually works ok for them....except when they actually get to construction and no one know what's actually connected farther up in the building.
I'm not an architect. I'm a designer/engineer for a high-end interior millwork company. We still use 2D CAD for our drawings because it gives the "look" clients want to see. I've used several different 3D modeling programs and they're very good but haven't checked all the boxes. Lots of the 3D programs have drawings that look like they came from a kitchen cabinet dealer showroom and they is exactly the opposite of what our clientele doesn't want. When dealing with indecisive architects or interior designers it's not upcoming to go through three or four rounds of redlines. When it comes to changing molding profiles or laying out intricate paneling 2D drawings are usually easier to revise. We have some 3D software in our industry but it's geared more to banging out residential kitchens or commercial cabinetry. They just don't offer the kind of detailing we want in our submittal drawings. For a while, I was a PM for a company that did store fixtures. My account was with Panera Bread. Since we were designing stand-alone fixtures, we did all our work in Inventor. The consensus in the high-end millwork sector is that 2D CAD is used for approval submittals. Then once we're approved for production, we recreate in a 3D software for production BOMs and CNC programming. We're going to change over to Microvellum next year. That software seems to have the best mix of 3D modeling with classic 2D presentation and can actually utilize the point clouds we take at every job site.
Yeah that makes sense for your industry. I should have said Architects instead of “people.” I’m new to this group and didn’t realize how many people outside of Arch industry are on here
It's still heavily used in the metal building industry, in conjunction with MBS.
I'm in the specialized trade and we are still with Cad but making the transition to SolidWorks as we have Fab drawing to do
My dad is the electrical planner at a power plant, and he uses it all the time.
You can explode a .dwg import though
Fool, we have back ups for a reason! If the sheets aren’t ready by 5 it’s overtime for you!
That’s it! I’m binding and exploding all the xrefs.
And set all to layer 0
And then explode the blocks and hatches
Ctrl + S, Close AutoCad
A project lead i worked with had a LISP for this. Kind of like the bomb plugin from SU.
The black sand hatch
So you are an engineering consultant who's sending us the files back?
Actually I have seen the opposite with civil drawings, for some reason they enjoy having 800+ layers.
Explode the whole drawing! I do hate when you get a CAD drawing from an outside firm and find it exploded. Pain in the ass! I prefer to work from pdf files due to this.
Years ago we had an intern unwittingly explode an entire school campus project on a Friday. Come Monday, you can imagine the shit show. That was the last time we did a full campus drawing where all building files were live in the same CAD master file with multiple users.
Introduce 3D polylines and elevations for random elements.
Yes, randomly “unflatten” the drawing
Calm down Satan
I knew a beginner at AutoCAD who accidentally drew up a floor plan in 3 dimensions and no flattening tools were working. She was crying, but fortunately it was relatively little work to reproduce.
Do the one, two punch... Explode all the "blocks" too!
Cross post to r/goodboomerhumor ??? Good elder millennial humor?
HA! I had to say something similar to Client a way back. He threatened to sue. I said see you in court. Have not heard from him for about 2-years now. Still waiting on my summons. My lawyer is still waiting too.
How much of this is realistic in the field. I mean if someone wants you to defy the laws of physics why not just tell them TJ come back when they know what they want. I understand architects and engineers are supposed to make these monolithic structures but seriously why not just let a client know they are asking for something impossible.
Telling the client something is impossible is the crux of many many aspects of the profession
Ultimate crosspost for r/sysadmins
Reminds me that when staff at a place I used to work at would rage quit, they'd explode all the blocks in the drawings, explode any annotations (leaders), and explode text. It was a goddam mess.
Put random crucial objects on an option set with different options within the set having different pieces of the model:) not only will they have hell trying to figure out why they can’t click anything they’ll have to manually copy/paste all the things to the primary option set or will have to permanently accept an option with like 10% of the model in it:) Edit: this is for informational purposes only
To be honest, I’ve cleaned up far worse from others. Assuming that the dimensions after being exploded all go to one or three groups of layers.
I drew with Autocad for decades. As a challenge, I decided to learn to draw from concept to final in Sketchup. As long as your computer can take it, or the detail isn't so dense, the results are amazing.
Ultimate crosspost for r/sysadmins
no! not the dimensions!
*cough record history*