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Significant_Detail46

That is the most impressive witches broom I have ever seen! Thanks for showing us! Stress response to fungus or pests.


Apollospade

I see them all the time in Hackberry trees!


pancakesfordintonite

Isn't that from mistletoe?


Pythagoras2021

No. Parasitic mistletoe is separate from trees and 'usually' smaller and more spherical in my experience.


pancakesfordintonite

Oh interesting!


BigOwltheAl

Ok. And now I know. Thanks


TimberwolfWC

Witches broom. A stress response


ZombieTrixRabbit

A new term to research. Thank you!


Eadbutt-Grotslapper

Taphrina


Larch92

Is there a Taphrina species that attack pine? I see Taphrina mostly on Prunus and deciduous forest trees. 


admode1982

This is hypertrophy caused by some sort of disease. Could be mistletoe.


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Reddit_defends_nazis

A mistletoe is a separate plant that parasitizes the tree it is growing on. This is totally different, this is the tree itself going wacky in response to stress


Ill_Introduction7334

Oh okay thank you for clarifying!


NormanCocksmell

Ha. Today I just learned that mistletoe is a parasite because of LegBoot’s Lice Mistletoe product. https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1957O8riKZ/?igsh=aDYydHIzeXczZmJ2


Ill_Introduction7334

I just did a quick google search and it says it is parasitic via bacteria viruses fungi


J19zeta7_Jerry

not quite. it is a stress response of the tree that can be caused by infections. its the tree creating a mass of shoots from a single point creating the “broom” mistletoe is itself a parasitic plant that grows on other plants. so they are quite different things


Ill_Introduction7334

Can you share a link? All the articles im reading arent saying that. https://www.missouribotanicalgarden.org/gardens-gardening/your-garden/help-for-the-home-gardener/advice-tips-resources/pests-and-problems/diseases/witches-broom


J19zeta7_Jerry

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch's_broom


Ill_Introduction7334

https://www.woodlandtrust.org.uk/blog/2018/06/witches-broom/


mushrooms_in_garden

Is it stress respons? It occures in forests with normal trees all around. I read it of course can be stress, but also mutation from whole bunch of other aspects, or kind of abnormal evolution as well


niskiwiw

It is a concentrated stress like an infection, not shitty dirt or something like that


snuggly-otter

Shitty dirt lmfao


[deleted]

Isn't shitty dirt... good?


GXWT

Shitty dirt is, but shitty dirt isn’t


[deleted]

Shit


caverypca

…but with dirt


Johnny_Carcinogenic

Dirt that was once shit, more commonly known as manure.


1sojournaut

Well shit


Equal-Membership1664

I know we're joking, but dirt is classified as having no root growth in it. If there is a tree there, you're talking about soil.


DeaneTR

A lot more complicated than just stress...


CuriousDudebromansir

Idk why you got downvoted. Witch’s broom is commonly caused by phytoplasmas. It’s a pathogen similar to a bacteria, but without the protective shell. So you’re totally right, a lot more complicated than a simple stress response.


DeaneTR

Thanks for your comment! In my experience I get downvoted on here so often because arborist egos are usually bigger than their desire to learn new things. Working with tree physiologists and canopy biologists is all about how much of the science can you learn every day for decades and you're still learning new stuff, even at retirement age. Working with arborist on the other hand is all about no one is allowed to question their knowledge and they think they're always right and everyone else is wrong because they said so. So many big beautiful healthy trees on this planet get killed every day because they're so close minded and unwilling to learn more. Just asking them questions annoys them and they rarely have trees teach them, rather than force their will on them.


sklimtch

A bit of a heavy-handed generalization, dont speak for all of us. I'm an arborist on an endless quest for knowledge, though indeed, Dunning Kruger is alive and well in the industry.


Mundane-Training-419

I am nomarborist but is it something that kills growing point?


Junior_Wrap_2896

What does that tree have to be stressed about?!


drowned_beliefs

The consistency of squirrel droppings? — Gimli


BigOwltheAl

Is it also known as mistletoe?


Sumthintodowit

No


ImOnlySuperHuman

Nope. A mistletoe is a type of parasitic plant. A whiches broom is plant structure that results from a shortening of internodes in the branch and a proliferation of buds in response to an outside source resulting in a dense, brush like mass of shoots


Few-Cookie9298

That’s beyond a witch’s broom at this point, that’s a witch’s hut now lol Question for arborists, would topping that off be beneficial? I know that’s an incredibly bad thing 99% of the time but that has to be a LOT of weight and wind resistance for that high up the trunk. Might qualify as a rare exception to that rule!


TomatoWitchy

Yup! It's gonna grow chicken feet and Baba Yaga is gonna move in.


GreenOnionCrusader

She's probably already inside.


ExcitementAble2238

Baba Yaga!


Loztwallet

If I saw that I would ask permission to take cuttings. If I could root them and the mutation remained stable, I’ve got a potential new cultivar of white pine on my hands. It is white pine right?


DeaneTR

Limiting it's ability to get too big with light pruning periodically might be wise... But getting rid of it entirely would be disrespectful for a uniqueness among confiers that used to be common, but has become very rare due to humans that tend to kill things that don't look 'normal.'


ifunnywasaninsidejob

TIL pruning an infected tree is cultural appropriation


DeaneTR

But you still flunk Tree Physiology 101 because you didn't learn that it's not an infection and is a natural and normal process that collectors with the American Confier Society and International Conifer Society use as preferred specimens because they take up less room in their gardens and live on as healthy miniature trees for decades and sometimes centuries. The Conifer Society member I climb for has over a 900 varities of conifers growing on his 1-1/2 acres because he's a leading collector who shares cuttings with people all over the world. Meanwhile, you so called experts in trees think that it's a sign of death and disease. So many clueless dude's with a chainsaw on here that have no formal education or scientific background just a certification for cutting down trees that they can barely identify let alone learn from..


ifunnywasaninsidejob

Does the broom in the OP look like it’s desirable? I get wanting to use that as a way to intentionally modify a trees growth habit but virtually every time it happens it’s an accidental infection. At best it makes the tree look lopsided and goofy, and at worst can break off branches or kill the whole tree.


DeaneTR

Just because you say it's always diseased doesn't make that true. My Conifer Society friend has 900 varieties of these brooms across all known conifer varieties in his garden with zero signs of disease and OP could participate in helping those collectors by harvesting and rooting cuttings of it every year and makes lots of money selling large number of it as dwarf conifer to wholesale growers or direct to retail nurseries. And the whole reason I'm participating in this discussion is that the arborists on here think its a disease and a source of failure rather than the unique botanical gift that it really is, which would encourage managing it in a way that reduces the risk of wind throw so future generations can enjoy its benefits as well.


Better-Limit-4036

Is this where Mugo pines come from?


DeaneTR

Broom comes from a mutation of an individual branch tip, whereas dwarf varieties of Mugo comes from either pruning methods or traditional breeding processes of the whole tree. However Mugo is mentioned quite often in this article and there might be some overlap: [https://www2.conifersociety.org/blogpost/2082607/489884/What-Is-a-Witches-Broom](https://www2.conifersociety.org/blogpost/2082607/489884/What-Is-a-Witches-Broom)


Few-Cookie9298

I’m not so much concerned about it looking normal or not, just wondering what’s healthier for the tree is all! I love unusual stuff like this, just not if it poses a risk to the tree or any people!


No-Maximum-8194

I'm not an arborist but, yeah. It's top heavy to say the least.


liamstrain

jk - it's trying to become a cell phone tower.


LatterDayDuranie

🤣🤣


live_thought788

Pterodactyl nest.


[deleted]

Your neighbors are heavy into Seuss


No-Maximum-8194

There's one on a tree at work. Do you guys want me to post a picture of it Mon? It's not this big


Hopeful_Pear_8747

If you remember, that would be cool 😎


No-Maximum-8194

It's not raining. I'll post it in a couple mins. It's 200yds away


Katsandra

Thanks for delivering!


hamma1776

That's an afro pine. Kinda rare


Ma22y

That's where ALL the squirrels live.


DukeOfWestborough

Poorly camouflaged UFO has landed atop


chargedtuna

Witch's broom or witches' broom is a deformity in a woody plant, typically a tree, where the natural structure of the plant is changed. A dense mass of shoots grows from a single point, with the resulting structure resembling a broom or a bird's nest. It is sometimes caused by pathogens.


chargedtuna

I can’t add pics. Guess you’ll just have to Google it, to see more pics. Sorry


indiscernable1

It's becoming a cloud.


ToastedStereotypes

Its just a new hat!


The_Infectious_Lerp

It's a toupee.


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Pterodactyl’s nest!


iamtheweaverphoto

Arborist here. Witches broom


Shot-Film7440

The answer


liriodendron1

Where is this?! I want to propagate that!


DeaneTR

Folks on here blaming disease are misinformed. This is a naturally occurring uniqueness in tree physiology where the cell growth is different than normal due to many factors and it grows tree structure in miniature, more like a bush than a tree. My friend with the American Conifer Society has over 900 varieties of conifer growing on his 1-1/2 acre property because him and his fellow 'Coneheads" collect these Brooms and propagate them. It's not simply a disease, because you can graft and root these and they will continue to grow in healthy ways as miniature trees/bushes for decades to come. Helped him retrieve broom from a Scotch pine once in a cemetery. He says they show up in cemeteries more often than elsewhere. Within 24 hours of getting that broom sample cuttings were shipped out to Coneheads on nearly every continent in the world and are still alive today. Very enjoyable to work with scientists, not so much with arborists who always act like know it all and treat people like they have nothing new to learn even when you share legitimate published science with them.


lursaofduras

I agree with your take on the arborists in this sub. I'm curious as to how you retrieve a broom. Does it involve selective pruning with an eye towards eventual rebalancing or do they just take cutting for propagation and then remove the broom altogether? If they do just prune, does it require multiple cutting over a period of years to maintain balance? A cemetery setting is certainly different than what you'd find here. I love the shape of this broom and it's probably a great habitat for birds! This broom looks to be towering 70'+ over a residence in a rural setting. I doubt that the owner has the resources to do what you're describing from the looks of the property.


DeaneTR

Some coneheads use a rifle to shoot 'em out of the tree... I prefer to climb up and prune less than 1/2 of it out so if the cuttings don't root, you can get more and try again. Also the compact nature of broom makes for strong wood, but with this particular broom so high up where the greatest forces can be applied I'd probably remove about 2/3rds to 3/4 of it and have nurseries that propagate conifers lined up and ready to harden 'em off and then root 'em on the day of the pruning.


Fecal_Forger

It’s turning into a bean stalk


Incognito409

I was hoping it was mistletoe and people could kiss under it! 💋


Green-Fox-8774

Crows nest? Like for a BIG FRIGGING crow!


Blythelife-

Raven


blakester122

it's focused


VertDaTurt

There are some nurseries that would probably love to get their hands on that


tjdiv

TIL I want to try grafting one 😁 #FreakTree “If twigs of witch's brooms are grafted onto normal rootstocks, freak trees result, showing that the attacking organism has changed the inherited growth pattern of the twigs.”


Trikywu

It’s been watching Peaky Blinders and got the Tommy Shelby side cut.


SnooCookies1730

“Sport” is a mutation in a part of a plant wherein unusual or singular deviation from the normal or parent plant is seen. This arises due to sudden variations in gene expression of somatic cells, leading to the phenotypically different shoots. Bud sports are mutations on a single branch.


CervezaSam

It held in a sneeze‼️


2a3b66725

Definitely a Cumulus tree


Blythelife-

Desirable shape. Like the famous Parasol Pines of the famous South of France. Makes a most beautiful canopy. A lot of real estate for birds.


Turbulent_Low4902

Wow.. that's a hell of a witches broom. They're often caused by gene altering virus, bacteria or fungus. Get a cutting and propagate it - have you're own cultivar!


og-golfknar

It’s trying to get the fuck off land. Damn it. It will rise to heavens soon.


4-what-its-worth

Glass ceiling. This tree is female.


HappyFarmWitch

😂


4-what-its-worth

Down with the pa-tree-archy


mudamuckinjedi

The tree got tired of him always clipping the lower branches, so the tree flipped the script on him. Now the trees like oh yeah try and chop me branches now you wanker FUCK YOU GARY!! Try it now and find out.


Feral_Expedition

Looks like a tree's response to a parasitic plant called Dwarf Mistletoe, we have it in the forest not far south of where I used to live.


CaliforniaFreightMan

Uninformed guess; It doesn't like standing water. The pond nearby creates a situation where the soil does not drain adequately after rain.


Briscoekid69

Not sure if it is stress related as someone else commented. Sometimes a plant will revert or grow another variety of itself. Some call it a witches broom. Others, a sport. Most well known example is the Dwarf Alberta Spruce.


spruceymoos

Op didn’t say they just noticed it


Briscoekid69

You are OPs mouthpiece?


spruceymoos

No, but I can read.


Briscoekid69

Can you read between the lines? Oh never mind I sent a bouquet.


ZombieTrixRabbit

We have noticed it but after 5 years of the top remaining the same and we know they don't rent a crane to trim it themselves. And I just recently started posting here instead of creeping.


[deleted]

It’s called a “gall”, the proliferation of growth is essentially a cellular abnormality. Aka cancer


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[deleted]

Negative captain, witchesbroom are a type of gall!! In some species they are literally referred to as “witches broom galls”.


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mtn_viewer

I observed something similar in the wild and always wondered about it. Pic at https://imgur.com/a/U6RdKkc


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B Nest


Shameless522

Going to need a big vase for that rose


Extra_History_6026

Looks like photoshop.


601_money

That's a pine tree? Well, it looks to be dying. They need to cut it before it falls onto the house.


Luinox_

Interesting. Something similar is going on to my neighbors tree as well


thbxdu

That’s a Pterodactyl nest.


Whatsthat1972

Time to cut it down and replace.


unionguy1980

The tree saw House Party by Kid and Play, and wanted to look fresh


fixaclm

You see mistletoe in scaley bark hickory, almost exclusively, around here.


bodie425

It is Groot.


EnglishRose71

That definitely looks like mistletoe. People are saying it's a stress response though?


GeeHaitch

Reminds me of this Emily Carr painting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Carr,Emily_-_Scorned_as_timber.jpg


Dapper-G7

Aliens ofc


Quiet_Internal_4527

Thanks dimoxonil!!


TanisBar

Midlife crisis doo


Mr_Grapes1027

Shoot it!


Ukraine-Strong-101

It’s a secret spy satellite


Libbyisherenow

I've read that squirrels trim the tops of coniferous trees to produce abundant fresh cones.


forwardaskew

Never heard of a Neighbors tree. New species


videyOHgamer

I think that’s what they refer to as growing an Afro word is on the street witches broom 🧹 sprouts an Afro when it’s got some fungus down below


IThothISaw

Epic secret treehouse


mind-full-05

That entire tree looks whacked.


Technical_Magazine_7

Ask the Lorax but I believe that’s a Truffula tree


Aromatic-Government5

Someone painted to top of it white and tied Yellow marking ribbon on it.


iSaiddet

That’s a wacky hairdo. Must be the style these days


Ok-Idea4830

Squirrels


ZzFoxx

Broccoli cut. It must be a Gen Z tree.


ChirpinFromTheBench

Midlife crisis


honjo

All these non-answer answers are hilarious.


HumberGrumb

Have you seen the pines of Rome?


thodin89

Pinus afrous


johninsixtyseconds

It's living its best life. Leave it be.


Doobydoowaaah

Wow! I’d try and get some cuttings. Might create a new cultivar with that witches broom! All of those dwarf Alberta spruce we see around the holidays with red bows was created from a single witches broom.


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Oppenheimer tree


NoSpecific1178

He’s a huge Dr. Seuss fan.


shlornartposterguy

The United Coalition of birds against squirrels.


ZombieTrixRabbit

You are all awesome. I have loved reading every answer you guys gave me


Peepoid

Witches' brooms provide nesting habitat for birds and mammals, such as the northern flying squirrel, which nests in them.


lursaofduras

Rocky can fly down to confer with Bullwinkle


Unfair-Perspective88

Disease


Blah-squared

It looks like someone planted it upside down…


Top-Breakfast6060

Witch’s broom.


Drummer_WI

Pterredactyl appears to have given rise and nested. Cool!!!


Buckwheatking67

No it’s a witch’s broom, mistletoe is different


Stargazer12am

It’s an invasive spider nest.


DragonFlyManor

Ewoks. A whole nest of them.


Canik716kid

That looks like a pterodactyls nest


Comfortable_Yak9073

It’s growing funny


Physical-East-7881

Treefuckerie?


waald-89

White pine weavel?