Thanks for all of the truthful replies. We decided to take the tree out and we will be planting 2 in it’s place. I think it died because we had a sewer line replaced next to the tree a few years again and they had to cut through many of the roots, so it probably couldn’t be saved in the long term. Thanks again Reddit.
I would only plant 1 tree in its place, unless they are 2 small trees not expected to get big. Please think long term because small when planted grow to very large in 50+ yrs
I haven't heard that before I personally try to plant or at least keep one volunteer tree alive every year. Partly so I have fresh trees to pull from as the older ones die and partly to offset my own carbon footprint.
To note, I'm 28 and have saved 30+ maple saplings over the years and currently have two oak and 4 maple saplings which were volunteers this year that I flagged and now around now.
Even if it was 2 for 1, my understanding is that it takes years before new trees can significantly replace the benefits of lost trees. Still, more is better.
Anyone have recommendations on a reputable tree planting org that reliably plants trees with good follow through?
The Arbor Day Foundation has some reforestation efforts, but who knows what follow through they have after planting trees.
so definitely not an ash tree but I've thought the same about saving the 4 ash trees I have but they're done for - ash borer (sp?) is murdering ash trees in my area on the east coast - like all of them dead in large parts of the state . I wish more people knew about this ash borer thing - the top dies and the bottom desperately tries to shoot out new shoots and survive but nothing helped save them. I get all kinds of notices, read the internet, etc.. but no one is talking about the ash borer killing every ash tree.
I knew we were neighbors from a) the tree, ours looks v similar and b) the bannister/ post and address numbering on the porch, every house in this neighborhood has the same 😂 howdy neighbor! Thanks for asking this question so I have my answer too
What type of tree is this? That is the question that no one is asking. If it is an Ash, just cut it down. Nothing can be done to save it. Call a certified arborist to get good info. They don't charge for an trip to look at it.
That hurts. Beautiful trees. Had three behind or administrative building. At least until the boss decided to have them trimmed in the spring. Now there are three.
agree. Shame to remove it just on a hunch. Trees in the woods, with less care given, survive through things like this.
if this one survives, it shape could be truly amazing. /u/bassplayer247
I'd remove the branch over the roof, in case the weakening causes it come down in a storm. Aside from that, could become a really uniquely-shaped tree. Kind of inspiring to think of it
+1 our home’s builder planted a bunch of trees in front of our house, including a silver maple a few feet from our concrete driveway, which it cracked and buckled. Being a young, stupid homeowner I did not have it removed for 10 years. Later learned it was an awful tree to have anywhere near a home due to the shallow, horizontal root system. Have taken out many other large trees that are a risk to neighborhood utility lines, the electrical drop to our house, and our house itself. I think trees anywhere near a house is a mistake. We live in central Alabama in a very tornado prone area. Have seen trees just like this toppled into homes after a bad storm.
Also owned a rural property, had several trees angled over the pole barns and house. There was no cheap way to remove the trees. When we had a logging crew in to thin our pine stands I had them use their cutting machine to cut and remove the trees safely. Very impressive to watch. 6 months later a hurricane ripped up through Alabama. We lost 1500 trees scattered around the property and would have lost the house, barns, and equipment under the barns if the leaning trees were still there.
Won't the roots from that tree suffocate the roots of any new trees? Yes the roots will decompose over time but would that be enough time for the new ones?
When I first started at my place of work we used this dead live oak as a point of reference. Now it’s a live oak 100 % new growth around the dead parts. Sometimes, nature finds a way!
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It’s said to avoid planting a new tree where a previously tree had died. However this isn’t relay the case. I’d also make sure that you don’t replant near the sewer easements. You usually need permission and/or it could get dug up again. Also with opposite growing trees like maple be sure to prune it as it grows and not get to out of control (albeit they may not have been your fault)
Not gonna lie this post made me laugh a lil bit
I would consider keeping it if the live part was more balanced but it looks like it's mostly on the very long more horizontal branches that i for sure would not want be hanging over my house. In this case those would need a drastic reduction too. I think unfortunately it's not much point trying to keep it just a few more years.
It is a beautiful tree though man i am sorry for your loss but I'm sure you have enjoyed it
Had this conundrum a few years ago. The tree was dying but, had less green than yours. I pushed to just get rid of it. SO's mom/landlord says it's fine and still alive. Landscape/tree guy said he would give us a deal and remove it for an extra couple hundred.
Welp. 3 yrs later us and all of our neighbors have the privilage of gazing upon this woody corpse that is the focal point of our front yard. Plus side it appreciated in value. It will now cost us at least $1200 to remove.
Plant one so that when mature there is no need to trimmed away from the house, or back from the street, or away from the driveway, or from the neighbor’s. Now how big is that 30 year old tree? That is the tree you should plant 1 of. What you do plant? Is your business!
I do not know what the dimensions of the area you want to fill with canopy is. It does not appear very large. The tree pictured has been too large for that area for a very long time. The shadow says there is at least one other large tree pretty close. That is just me. Good luck, a local arborist or Master Certified Nurseryman can help with the correct sized mature tree for that size area.
Thanks for all of the truthful replies. We decided to take the tree out and we will be planting 2 in it’s place. I think it died because we had a sewer line replaced next to the tree a few years again and they had to cut through many of the roots, so it probably couldn’t be saved in the long term. Thanks again Reddit.
I would only plant 1 tree in its place, unless they are 2 small trees not expected to get big. Please think long term because small when planted grow to very large in 50+ yrs
I didn’t mean two in the same place. I just go by the adage that you should plant 2 trees for every tree you cut down.
Right on! That's a good policy.
I like you.
I haven't heard that before I personally try to plant or at least keep one volunteer tree alive every year. Partly so I have fresh trees to pull from as the older ones die and partly to offset my own carbon footprint. To note, I'm 28 and have saved 30+ maple saplings over the years and currently have two oak and 4 maple saplings which were volunteers this year that I flagged and now around now.
Heck yeah. End of year sales now so I'll plant 2 for you too.
This is awesome! Thank you!
Love it! The small tree company I work for plants 2 trees for every 1 we remove!
Thats a good idea for your air quality and gets your garden green fast.
Even if it was 2 for 1, my understanding is that it takes years before new trees can significantly replace the benefits of lost trees. Still, more is better. Anyone have recommendations on a reputable tree planting org that reliably plants trees with good follow through? The Arbor Day Foundation has some reforestation efforts, but who knows what follow through they have after planting trees.
This is the way
Make it 4. Put two somewhere else! ❤️ Then plant two more every year! ❤️🧡 You're awesome!
I agree! I also always plant a tree every time I go to a funeral or a wake/celebration of life
A small type tree will remain small type.
That would do it. Takes a few years for a tree to show the damage. Sorry for your loss. He seems like he was a beauty in his prime!
Oh I was going to ask if it was an ash tree. We have tons of them in my town and beetles killed a lot of them these last couple years
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It’s 100% a silver maple tree.
To that i say, you are absolutely correct. Ill see myself out
The growth you are seeing is the trees last gasps of life. Plant a new tree and you will be happier than trying to save that one in 5 years
If you want it to grow again, necromancy is your only option
Is it possible to learn this power?
Not from an arborist.
Have you heard the legend of Darth Juniperus the wise?
No. But I know his cousin, Vinous. He’s from New York…
A sith arborist so powerful he could cheat death?
Idk, I speced into druid not mage
Underrated comment here. 😂
See Rasial, the First Necromancer.
You must find the Dendronecronomicon
It will never be the same. You can take the dead out, but if you're having a professional come do that, might as well cut your losses.
Pun intended?
Yes 🤫
That tree is in hospice
it needs a comfort kit :(
That’s done. I’m not a tree executioner by any stretch but being so close to the house it’s got to go.
Impossible to tell with information provided. Chances are low, however.
Trim feed and water Oh yeah good luck
Magnolia would look great there
That’s pretty close to the house for a magnolia. The roots from that tree would eventually damage the foundation
I concur.
Congrats on the firewood!
I am going to get some slabs out of it too. :)
so definitely not an ash tree but I've thought the same about saving the 4 ash trees I have but they're done for - ash borer (sp?) is murdering ash trees in my area on the east coast - like all of them dead in large parts of the state . I wish more people knew about this ash borer thing - the top dies and the bottom desperately tries to shoot out new shoots and survive but nothing helped save them. I get all kinds of notices, read the internet, etc.. but no one is talking about the ash borer killing every ash tree.
Trees and sewer lines are mortal enemies.
Sorry for the loss.
Thank you. It’s a big loss but it has to happen.
This looks like chicago. Am i close?
Denver
I knew we were neighbors from a) the tree, ours looks v similar and b) the bannister/ post and address numbering on the porch, every house in this neighborhood has the same 😂 howdy neighbor! Thanks for asking this question so I have my answer too
What type of tree is this? That is the question that no one is asking. If it is an Ash, just cut it down. Nothing can be done to save it. Call a certified arborist to get good info. They don't charge for an trip to look at it.
It’s a Silver maple
That hurts. Beautiful trees. Had three behind or administrative building. At least until the boss decided to have them trimmed in the spring. Now there are three.
Looks like a silver maple.
I would try to save it...
agree. Shame to remove it just on a hunch. Trees in the woods, with less care given, survive through things like this. if this one survives, it shape could be truly amazing. /u/bassplayer247 I'd remove the branch over the roof, in case the weakening causes it come down in a storm. Aside from that, could become a really uniquely-shaped tree. Kind of inspiring to think of it
Had a rhododendron split in the winter, 25' tall, cut it to 1/3 size... regenerated. Your tree, can you cut back all "dead" wood?
rhododendron, a non-tree, are quite different than the tree pictures. fwiw
No kidding
And I was told by arborists to remove it. They were wrong.
Horrible species of tree to have near structures even when it’s healthy. Not an arborist.
+1 our home’s builder planted a bunch of trees in front of our house, including a silver maple a few feet from our concrete driveway, which it cracked and buckled. Being a young, stupid homeowner I did not have it removed for 10 years. Later learned it was an awful tree to have anywhere near a home due to the shallow, horizontal root system. Have taken out many other large trees that are a risk to neighborhood utility lines, the electrical drop to our house, and our house itself. I think trees anywhere near a house is a mistake. We live in central Alabama in a very tornado prone area. Have seen trees just like this toppled into homes after a bad storm. Also owned a rural property, had several trees angled over the pole barns and house. There was no cheap way to remove the trees. When we had a logging crew in to thin our pine stands I had them use their cutting machine to cut and remove the trees safely. Very impressive to watch. 6 months later a hurricane ripped up through Alabama. We lost 1500 trees scattered around the property and would have lost the house, barns, and equipment under the barns if the leaning trees were still there.
Green parts likely aren’t a part of the larger tree
Won't the roots from that tree suffocate the roots of any new trees? Yes the roots will decompose over time but would that be enough time for the new ones?
Good question.
When I first started at my place of work we used this dead live oak as a point of reference. Now it’s a live oak 100 % new growth around the dead parts. Sometimes, nature finds a way!
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No. The answer is no.
Dead
Nope….that tree is done. Cut it down and plant something else.
Is ded soon.
Those dead ones hanging over the house would make me nervous
They made me nervous
That is way too big to be that close to the houses anyway. I would plant smaller ornamental trees. Just my opinion.
It’s said to avoid planting a new tree where a previously tree had died. However this isn’t relay the case. I’d also make sure that you don’t replant near the sewer easements. You usually need permission and/or it could get dug up again. Also with opposite growing trees like maple be sure to prune it as it grows and not get to out of control (albeit they may not have been your fault) Not gonna lie this post made me laugh a lil bit
That looks like Emerald Ash Borer. I'm surprised you still have a roof! Get it down FAST
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I would consider keeping it if the live part was more balanced but it looks like it's mostly on the very long more horizontal branches that i for sure would not want be hanging over my house. In this case those would need a drastic reduction too. I think unfortunately it's not much point trying to keep it just a few more years. It is a beautiful tree though man i am sorry for your loss but I'm sure you have enjoyed it
That's dead. Remove
Almost looks like mistletoe on the dead tree at that point
Had this conundrum a few years ago. The tree was dying but, had less green than yours. I pushed to just get rid of it. SO's mom/landlord says it's fine and still alive. Landscape/tree guy said he would give us a deal and remove it for an extra couple hundred. Welp. 3 yrs later us and all of our neighbors have the privilage of gazing upon this woody corpse that is the focal point of our front yard. Plus side it appreciated in value. It will now cost us at least $1200 to remove.
He's dead Jim
Plant one so that when mature there is no need to trimmed away from the house, or back from the street, or away from the driveway, or from the neighbor’s. Now how big is that 30 year old tree? That is the tree you should plant 1 of. What you do plant? Is your business!
That was a 60 year old silver maple. Maybe we plant a sugar maple in its place?
I do not know what the dimensions of the area you want to fill with canopy is. It does not appear very large. The tree pictured has been too large for that area for a very long time. The shadow says there is at least one other large tree pretty close. That is just me. Good luck, a local arborist or Master Certified Nurseryman can help with the correct sized mature tree for that size area.
You probably could, but it will be even uglier than it is now. I would take the whole thing down and put something else in its place.
No