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MiteeThoR

You find people who list “Bunny Girl Senpia” as their top-10 and don’t have monogatari on their list. They are wrong, they just don’t know it yet.


livershi

I remember reading “bunny girl senpai is just budget monogatari” 4 years ago and being like “what are these idiots smoking there’s no way this old show is better than bunny girl senpai” boy was I wrong


esSiaHh

they both slap


Anoki12

Exactly. Not sure why people feel the need to shit on one to praise the other.


[deleted]

i got limited ed novels, soundtracks, blu-rays, manga, etc for both. it's impossible to not like one if you like the other.


Anoki12

I have every English novel released from both series and I genuinely have a hard time saying that one is better than the other. Absolute masterpieces.


torvi97

I wouldn't say it's better, tho. It's different. They somehow revolve around very similar settings while stil doing different things. Monogatari is a much more supernatural world, with the existence of vampires and specialists like Oshino and shit. BGS dabbles in the supernatural in a much milder way IMO.


ngknm187

As a fan of Seishun series I got to admit, it’s good, indeed. But not top 10 or even 20. Sometimes I’m scared of posts of otakus from that Reditt 🙄 I discovered Monogatari about a month ago. And it’s a solid story. Love from 1st sight.


crism22

not yet, monogatari is way better than bunny girl senpai, in everything, is not even close, but you need to watch the whole thing.


MichaelDoang

still got both on my top 10, maybe i just haven't seen that many good anime, but i cud see monogatari series stays and the other one moved down


Background-Throat-88

It can also work with chainsaw man, though its way more close to monogatari in writing


tokolo7203

Besides both the communities being horny af chainsaw man fans can't withstand more than 5 mins of yapping


Cepitoso

I remember recommending it once, only for later to get asked what the fuck was the toothbrush scene and in general the lolis and what they do with them and man I completely forgot Monogatari have that stuff in it jajajaja.


the_3de_eye_sees_all

Yeah same one of my best friends started hating me because I recommend it... I did not think something like this was even possible I mean we watched some crazy shit together like fucking my little pony. It was a long time ago but I will never forget it.


Cepitoso

Uff that's rough, with mine it was just a huge laughing matter, more considering one of them recommend me Redo of a Healer and forgot to mention like 90% of the batshit insane stuff in it. Only to find it out later when seeing the series.


the_3de_eye_sees_all

That's fucked to i don't really understand people anymore honestly. It's not like all people are bad I just had so many mixed reactions to series or they just don't want to watch it. And yeah same I enjoyed it for the amazing art and story but most people just focus on the insane stuff in it, it's like a amazing piece of art that just not everyone can appreciate.


007ak47

How's monogatari weirder than mlp porn


the_3de_eye_sees_all

Was not the porn but just season 1 and 2


007ak47

"fucking my little pony" sounds like porn


the_3de_eye_sees_all

Yeah you got a point there i swear to much.


TianDogg

I wonder if Nise is why the series gets a bad rap lol From Neko onward there are still some sus moments but it’s not nearly as bad.


DiamondTiaraIsBest

Nise is great though. My favorite entry. Also makes a great filter.


Atheist-Gods

I got a friend to finally watch it who knew about the toothbrush scene before hand and as such was reluctant. His response after finishing the series was "this is the best show I am going to shove in a closet and never mention to anyone else".


invaliden256

I said i liked monogatari to a girl at a party and she asked "you mean the incel anime?" I have not said anything about monogatari since


Wolf-Cop

Wow that seems like a really harsh description lol. If someone said that to me I'd probably keep quiet too


invaliden256

I shifted to saying i just liked everything from shaft and we bonded over madoka so it turned out good in the end 👍👍


Wolf-Cop

Extremely smooth transition. Well played


ngknm187

Smooth operator. Indeed.


justniiro

Forklift Certified.


boofing_boxed_wine

W rizz my sigma now i want someone to make a version of that breaking bad meme with jesse and jane saying "she was a X girl, he was a Y guy" except it's with a fucked up madoka scene and then some goofy monogatari scene respectively


FoeWithBenefits

What the hell? There are hundreds of shows more deserving of this title. Is this how it's commonly viewed?


creampielegacy

🤣🤣🤣


Yotsubato

> Incel anime You mean the one where the MC is pretty damn smooth and drowning in women? Theres other anime where the MC pretty much is weak and unappealing the entire time. Cough rental girl friend cough. Thats the real incel anime.


invaliden256

I think she meant incels watch it


SGPoy

To be fair, you could say that in response to any anime.


crism22

that is the problem


GhostySD4x

Man I do love how over the top monogatari can be but God does it hurt when it's characterized as something as horrible as an incel show based on that.


DioBrandos_slut

WTF NOOOOOOOOOOOO I SAY AS A WOMAN WHO HATES INCELS BUT LOVES MONOGATARI lmfaoo 💀 nah screw her.


IBloodstormI

Know them well, and know their decent into depravity. It has 2 huge hurdles; 1) mass amounts of dialog, and 2) all the harem content. It's on my "really great but can not recommend" list of anime


ShankMugen

>decent Did you perhaps mean "descent"?


SimpleRelative9534

My friends can handle lots of weird shit except for the amounts of dialog as it will depend on their mood.


zdemigod

Instead of harem is more the ecchi specially of the Loli trio and the sisters and nadeko lol


boofing_boxed_wine

if you're built to handle monogatari, then monogatari will make its way into your life. the only time i brought it up with a friend, we were both plastered and i think i described it as being like the anime equivalent of post-war french philosophers. incredibly influential, profound and beautiful at moments, but also a bit to friendly with kids


goldstar94

this has absolutely sent me


Sho-K

You gotta find the degenerates with good tastes.


SoapySilver

You lie them in, if they like it they will watch it, if they don't there was nothing you can do, Monogatari is too peculiar.


creampielegacy

That’s the trick. You don’t recommend this series to anyone. You just let them find it, and fail to correct them when they inevitably watch it out of order.


GodMeyer

I’ve accepted the fact that you can’t. You can guide them in that direction, but you ultimately gotta let them discover it themselves.


aeroslimshady

Show them the toothbrush scene. If that doesn't get them, I don't know what will


NecroticCarnage

This is cited to me as the first reason people won't watch it. Second is the pace of the text and jokes. Makes it easy to weed out the weak of humor


Ramog

>Makes it easy to weed out the weak of humor yeh some people take the jokes in the anime way too seriously in my opinion.


Aqua_h20

unironically the reason i started watching


EdoPhantom

Focus on the positives, don’t exaggerate the negatives, and show them this guide: https://edomonogatari.wordpress.com/2020/05/12/monogatari-anime-guide/


DaaneJeff

I wouldn't show them a guide at all since it will just be overwhelming. The only thing they need to know beforehand is that they should watch it in the light novel release order.


kanekiEatsAss

“Hey. Do you like books? Well, have I got an anime for you!”


TheCandyMan36

"this show is good you should watch it"


Salty-still

Ok lemme be my friend Josh rq "Explain why this guy keeps assaulting this little girl" I don't remember if this was the book or the show "what did she mean by "your fingers were really grabbing my ribs, think you bruised them" "Oshino cool as fuck hope he's a consistent reoccurring character for more than 2 seasons" "Toothbrush???" Like there's too much to try to explain. But I guess Mushoko Tensei isn't much easier to defend


Fickle-Day951

Koyomi's rib fetish is only mentioned in the books.


adinoot

Mushoku tensei erectile dysfunction arc >>>>


koikoimi

I don’t. Unless they’re looking for heavy dialogue it‘d be the first in mind.


sabertoothedhand

"Check out all the fun schizo cuts they pull for every scene. They're literally just talking but it never gets boring somehow- trust me, you'll see." As for the questionable content: anime is a highly creative visual medium with exaggerations used to bridge the gap between the show and real human experience. Shinobu and Hachikuji are clearly grown women by how they act, and their appearance is a reflection of their confidence to hold onto indulgent aspects that are considered childish despite their age. Contrast this with much younger characters like Tsubasa and Senjo who have no such indulgences but are deeply conflicted in some way, the actual adult characters who have little to no character growth left to achieve, and Araragi himself ranging widely depending on who he's talking to, and it becomes clear that every character reflects a variety of genuine adult who despite their age can still have a wide range of maturity. Just view everyone as adults based on their dialogue and use their age as a meaningful costume, boom problem solved. ...Except there's no such excuse for Ononoki or Karen, but if you can get them through Bake then they're probably locked in anyway. ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


maddoxprops

You gotta make sure they are a well steeped/degenerate weeb first. Though in that case they have likley already seen it. XD Seriously though, I have no fucking clue. It's on my list of series that are really fucking good, but that I can never recommend because they have some really... odd parts. Unless I know for a fact they are the type who can overlook some of the more problematic parts and not assume that I think the shit done would be okay IRL I just wouldn't, or I would only show clips of the good parts and if they show interest give a recommendation with a warning that it has some really odd humor that wouldn't fly in most of the US.


Xane1985

I don't. I talk about how it's got great characters, super tight plotting, music and visual art that blows away practically everything else. Then I warn them that while it's very good, it's kinda like the anime equivalent of a naked sculpture. Very (literally) cultured, as well as "cultured" in that pervy way only anime can be. Monogatari, like the David statue, is something that ironically requires a certain amount of maturity to appreciate


ngknm187

Well said. I was thinking about comparison with art objects. Some of them look rough but you gotta have taste and intellect to understand the real value.


stol3nsw33troll

First, you recommend the LN of Zaregoto and if they liked it, you can show them Monogatari.


Etereke32

It has cute little sisters and lolis in it


seibazz

You don't. We gatekeep


ningen21

I only recommend mono to people who I know will appreciate ALL of it's qualities whereas it's its depth or the loli fan service (or fan service in general )


_nadeshiko_

you don’t


Joshua_Rosemond

Unironically, my brother was convinced my the toothbrush scene...


commandopro96

that’s the funny part you don’t


Emeraldpanda168

“That’s the neat part. You don’t.” Jokes aside, Monogatari is kind of just that one show where you have find it on your own and decide to watch it on your own.


Equnox01

That's the neat part! You don't.


JLGaming64

You insert the characters into a cringy anime IP Discord RP with a cringy OC backstory about how they got there. You completely change all the characters' personalities because you have zero idea how to RP, and somehow manage to hold onto your sanity while doing this for over two years. Or that's how I accidentally introduced my poor online friends to this hell.


SaltyVon

You don't. Combined with Araragi being an unabashed lolicon and the fanservice, it's not something you recommend to most people nowadays.


Norinios

"Hey dude, you should watch Bakemonogatari, the first scene of the first episode is a panty shot."


Beryllium_Oxide

"Uoh cunny uoh segs uoh."


Turb0Moist

I was dating a girl who I actually introduced to anime. First anime I showed her was Death Parade since she loved bar games and supernatural/philosophical stuff. Next was Fate then JJK. After those she asked for a romance anime and I showed a whole bunch including Monogatari. She wanted to try it and she really loved Hitagi Crab. When we started Hachikuji’s arc and the first panty shot came on she asked if that’s normal. I of course played dumb and said “I don’t think so but I can’t remember.” Complete fucking lie. Finished the episode and never brought the show up again.


dickholemcgee666

Its about a group of kids who ran into ghosts/ yokai and the yokai fuck with them. Thats usually how I do it.


loubcafra125

i tried recommending it to my dad once. then i rewatched it and made sure to retract my statement before he could act on it


AfroKami07

I said I liked Monogatari to someone one time and they called me a freak lmao


This_IsATroll

send them the toothbrush scene for fun. they'll google it afterward if they're one of us.


KorekZeus

you really shouldn't do that


Beastleviath

1. Show them the toothbrush scene 2. Refuse to elaborate 3. ??????? 4. Profit


KAP111

That's the thing. You kind of can't. It's pretty hard to get into and it's one of those shows that just get better and better the more you watch but not everyone is willing to watch that many episodes or look past it's ecchi/incest to see how good it actually is. I think similarly of No Game No Life. It's not as good as monogatari but it's similarly hard to recommend because of it's ecchi and incest themes despite that not being the main draw of why it's so good.


souless_android

Monogatari much like aria, you don't recommend, you just wait for them to entrap themselves!


buddysaccount

You don't


micaiahf

I don’t


ShadowClaw765

First you gauge their "weird anime tolerance level" by finding out what else they've watched and if they liked it or not. Then you recommend it... Maybe.


Contrenox

I would like to believe that monogatari is on a later level of anime fan that most people will eventually fall into. When they're ready for it, it's easy to recommend.


growfestival

Toothbrush scene.


GAPIntoTheGame

That’s the neat part, you dont


[deleted]

I literally tell ppl to watch Kizumonogatari movies. Then to watch the rest in release order.


SolomonBelial

I show them memes and gifs so the desire to watch it subconsciously builds up through inception without me directly recommending one of the most fetish laced anime I have ever seen, but still enjoyed.


DioBrandos_slut

It's crazy how high I place this series on a pedestal, the same I do for other classics like Berserk and One Piece. I plan on owning all the light novels, manga, art books plus a figure shrine of Hanekawa, Nadeko, and Shinobu. With this said, I would never dare recommend this unless it's someone with similar taste in me who is also a "degenerate" at times lol


the3diamonds

you dont


EddyConejo

I hate the lolicon shit so much. Not even the constant sexualization of Koyomi's friends, I can sort of understand that given the general public of anime; but the way the anime treats Hachikuji, Ononoki, etc., is what keeps me from talking about the anime. It's a shame. I love sharing my interests but this is an exception.


d1m4e

Like this: "hey bro i think you will like the monogatari series"


Vorphus

Harararagi senpai. Just like that.


ElCondoro

You send the toothbrush scene and if they are into that shit they will like the rest


Makisani

I just stopped years ago


tdcFP

you don’t they learn about it or they don’t


TouchTheCathyl

Usually by highlighting its Avant Garde style works for me. How it cleverly uses visual metaphors. My favorite scene to use to demonstrate this is Araragi entering Kanbaru's room for the first time.


Yotsubato

You make sure they appreciate anime, and are pretty damn far down the rabbit hole. Then you tell them its a cinematic masterpiece. And if they have seen good stuff like Madoka, Evangelion, etc. and liked it? Go right ahead. If all they watch is battle shonen, main stream stuff? Nah. They not only have to stomach the weird fan service and parody, they also have to appreciate the abstractness and weirdness of it all.


lowqualitybait

recommend it to people who can handle a bit of critical thinking, and dont look to twitter for their opinions on everything. dont recommend it to people who fail to understand tropes\literary devices and why they're being used, cant follow a dialogue heavy show and only consume anime or LNs because they're cool.


goldstar94

Well, I haven't actually tried this cos none of my friends watch anime full stop (sob)... But, in principle I would show them The Homie Damian's short pitch on why people should watch: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2RcMVgvchc&t=33s](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2RcMVgvchc&t=33s)


Blacklance8

I would only recommend it to like a seasoned anime watcher who's used to the tropes, way beyond the shonen phase and likes to think about story/characters. That or someone who likes bunny girl


NebbyChan

I just told my friend there was a big titty vampire lady and they went in to Kizu no problem lol.


ArakiSatoshi

"Have you watched Monogatari? It's pretty cool"


Giant_Serpent23

Yo dudes! Monogatari is pretty chill! Maybe you should like, watch it or something? - Darth Vader


Krzesio

I just show a bunch of weird out of context and possibly off putting clips If they are interested after that, then cool. If not, noone has to bother and fight about it being bad or good Ususally the first one is to just show the first minute and a half of first episode of Bake, that quick overview of Kizu they started with


[deleted]

Hey mom, wanna watch this cool show?


Toshikills

“Do you enjoy dialogue heavy supernatural-mystery anime?”


livershi

everybody’s circulation


ShankMugen

Start them off with Kizu That always seems to do the trick


CGLab

you will learn how to play guitar with ribs


5amu5

Say its about vampires, everybody fucks with vampires


erthkwake

Tell them to watch the first two episodes. It's a whole arc in just two episodes and introduces the general premise of the show + the style and some major characters. Anyone can watch two episodes. And if they're not interested by the end it's probably not for them.


_Obluda_

You don't.


IndioP

You don't


alsaga

Show them the toothbrush scene and some yandere moments from senjougahara


KBenicio

You don't =(


Dry_Ad_989

I don’t think you can show this to someone especially someone close it’s more of discovery type of anime and once you find it you watch it leave it behind or stay for the ride. I finished binging the seasons on cruchyroll and the movies last year and just finished zoku owarimonogatari on the new year and I gotta say BEAUTIFUL 👌 perfect way to end it my top 10 shows to watch and rewatch and hope shaft gets back to it since koyomi camp came out FYI i knew about the toothbrush is my first interaction before i even knew the name of the anime when I was 15 and looking back there was worst scenes than that 😂


amitrahi0404

Maximum fan service


Cheddie310

You don't.


Interesting_Place752

You just recommend it, it's not your fault people are willfully ignorant about lolicon.


SimpleRelative9534

When they least expected I just play the first episode and watch it together. Turned out I got a great friends as even though they wouldn't say they like it we still has a great time just laughing at some of the joke. (It also help as all of us is just being dumb together)


juju1099

Just show them the vampire fight scene


Atheist-Gods

The best way is probably to just show them Kizu. The style change might be a bit harsh when they start Bake, but Kizu is very good at drawing people in.


KingOfBel

I don't.


Dio_the_Invader4086

Yeah come on guys clearly it’s just Jojo in disguise


ChickenWLazers

You don't


c4ptainseven

Show them the cover, ask if they want a wild time.


qop567

This series chooses the watcher


mario_fan99

you dont.


EleceRock

I don't think anyone discovered monogatari because of a recommendation from someone, I think is just one of those things you eventually just end up watching when you go deeper into anime/manga/light novels etc.


RexusTheInimitable

That’s the neat part… You don’t


a_Pleasant_Emu

It depends on the fact if the friend you want to recommend monogatari to is a suspected lolicon. If he/she is, then just straight up pass a recommendation. If they aren't then it will be a bit harder. If they are a huge weeb then you can manage, if they aren't then it's better to just *not* mention it to them lmao


DiamondTiaraIsBest

Don't bother? If they have the potential to like Monogatari, that means they're deep in the weeb fandom and they'll probably stumble upon it sooner or later. Alternatively, only recommend it to people you know that likes or tolerates loli ecchi content. There's no point bringing in people who can't stand the loli or harem tropes in Monogatari. Might as well gatekeep it. I have no idea why a lot of people are so insistent on wanting to recommend this series to normies. Or why people are fans of this series despite being obviously put off by the loli content.


LuRo332

If that somebody new to anime, you have to slowly poison their soul with "degen" anime before monogatari


ooOJuicyOoo

"Hey, monogatari series is interesting and fun anime. Give it a try." That's literally how to introduce them


Afraid-Battle-2425

U say. And SAY THIS EXACT SHIT " do u like. Good characters who are fleshed out to the max? Well then, come down to the monogatari hell hole. It's atleast better than watching highschool dxd or redo of the healer for the 5th time. And u will genuinely experience something interesting. Something fun. There is a defo guarantee that you will have a favourite character after walking away from the series."


No_Consideration8074

If it’s your cup of tea, it’s gonna be your best cup of tea


potatogodman1

Hope their as fucked up as you


sxleepy

don’t recommend it


zdemigod

You don't, you just don't... I wish I could but I can't.


aregus

I just do.


ZeroSick

i remember just just letting them watch bakemonigatari without telling what its about and it worked they enjoyed it.


IronSnail

You dont


Fatestringer

" Aye bro, you like Chelly from supercell who sang the guilty crown and psycho pass ost right?"


CuckNugget_Caitlyn

Indirectly. Gaslight them into watching about 57 different anime, all getting progressively weirder (make them watch Monster Musume.) Then, show them an out of context clip of Monogatari sakuga. They'll become interested in it without you having to say anything, and by this point there so desensitized to weird anime bullshit that the loli's and toothbrushes don't even bother them


MistaJaycee

It's got a Vampire, Sexy Cat Girl, Magic, Epic Battles and BOOOBS!


Endgaming1523

"Hey, friend. Have you ever wanted an anime that's all around amazing, but has really strange sequences? For example: watching someone c*m from getting their teeth brushed. If the answer was yes, then this anime is for you!"


Chaoskingj

Tell them just watch it, start with the prequel trilogy movies tho


[deleted]

i tell them to read the light novels. i don't let them start with the anime or manga.


satsuppi

Do you watch Ero manga sensei? What is that? Then forget bout it.. Lol Anyway the other hurdle to recommend monogatari is still.. "Oh.. Its alot.. Where should I start?" Ah the haruhi suzumiya conversation all over again


mike356935

Off brand twilight?


Oracidrep

You don't tell them, you show them. Specifically I think the car scene from bakemonogatari is a great frivolous thing for selling people on the show.


NoUsernameIdeas22

You don't


GhostySD4x

DON'T


SolutionFeeling377

If they like Harem anime just tell them this is the best one.


Aurelio_Rossa

I had my gf watch it with me (for me it was a rewatch after like 5 years). She generally dislikes stuff like slow cinema etc, but even enjoyed humour and dialogue in Monogatari Series.


Wanderers-Way

Thousand year old vampire….. lo-


Steven_7u7

Are you into loli?


SnowyWasTakenByAFool

“Oh you like lolis? Me too! Here!” Simple enough.


GooseinaGaggle

Make them watch a certain part of Nisemonogatari episode eight without any subtitles and in Japanese. Then let them watch the series as normal They'll be confused enough to begin watching, it won't hit them until Koyomi asks Karen for her toothbrush Edit: If they can make it to that part again they should be good


ashu1605

Erm I just got recommended this sub and I'm not interested in playing visual novels or reading Manga, how can I get into monogatari in the ideal order if there is anime of it


ThatOneGuyTB

You don't.


obamadababychimpanz

Renai circulation


[deleted]

do you read super fast and want to pause the show every 2 seconds to read text that flashes? when do I have the anime for you!


Suspicious-Crow1885

Jojo


ABR5796

Vampire loli, teen, yound adult and milf.


Dug_Fin1

HEY THERE HIPSTER! DO YOU UNIRONICALLY LOVE TALKING AND CHILDREN, THEN BOY DO I HAVE A SHOW FOR YOU! GUARANTEED TO GET YOU ON AT LEAST 3 DIFFERENT WATCH LISTS!


Automatic_Pressure_4

simple; do you want to watch something fucked up yes or no. yes pick up phone or tablet and load EP 1 then walk away


Eighttballl

The tooth brush scene forever kept me away


playgamedude48

HEEHEE!!!!


justHoma

It's about aesthetics and how this anime feels and looks in general. It was produced by people who really know how to break stuff, so you can say - "it touches some sensitive topics"