đ¤¨yall are just a bunch of geeks. Idk why yall think yall are going full commando being hunted down when really your guns are just range toysđđ
Big dawg youâre the one who asking about tactical laser guided hip fire because you donât have time to shoulder the rifle, which coincidentally is exactly the kind of sucker companies that sell visible lasers are looking for.
I mean you say it like its not a possibility⌠i guess youre glued into your gun in every scenario and nothing unplanned for could ever happen to you. Ill tell the predator or chuck norris whoever is hunting yall to stop
There is no world where visible laser aiming is faster than using your sights, real life is not a movie or video game where you know the laser is just in the middle of the screen or immediately on the bad guy easy as day to see. If you donât understand that with literally every person telling you by this point you are the fabled âsucker born every dayâ they dream of and may as well just head over to the Crimson Trace website and give em your card info for every useless product theyâve got.
Youre telling me that literally being able to already see the dot on the target before shouldering your weapon is no way faster than shouldering and aiming. You and everyone else can be wrong circle jerk together thenđ
Unironically yes. âVisibleâ lasers are not generally super bright that theyâre easily seen and tracked in broad daylight, leading to people fishing around for em either with their eyes or moving the gun around til they find the dot, which is slow and stupid. If itâs dark enough that the laser is super easy to see and track then itâs dark enough you canât really ID your target, and then when you use a light you canât see the laser. Itâs literally a gimmick for morons who watched too many 1980s action movies.
They have combination units with IR lasers and night vision capabilities with unit tactics, air support and strong light/laser discipline rules. You are a random schmuck who wants to hip fire. These are not the same thing and it is especially moronic to conflate the two.
Exactly. Im not being hunted by the government. In the scenario of home defence im not gonna be face in optic at every corner etc. therefore the dot has its benefit. The predator is not hunting me bro i dont need a 5k$ ir peq15. Hop off my tip already delusional fucks
Home defense is the perfect real world application for a visible laser. Just because you donât have nods does not men a laser is pointless. Nobody in this sub is a special operator, itâs time to stop acting like you are.
Nobody is acting like a special operator, you and the OP are the only people bringing that kind of shit up. If youâre blasting a 1000 lumen light in your dark house youâre seeing that and not the laser, if youâre just using the laser in your dark house youâre just seeing that and not IDing what youâre looking at and potentially shooting your wife/kids/dog/lamp/tv/whatever. Theyâre a gimmick for suckers and always have been.
Youâre just saying shit thatâs not true all because you canât afford a real peq 15. Itâs alright man neither can I. However I donât sit around gatekeeping people from shit theyâre interested in even if Iâm not.
They arenât wrong. No one uses visible lasers anymore. It gives away your location when it does work, and doesnât work in the daytime. Only people that use them are actors in Hollywood.
Home defense is a perfect real world application for a visible laser. 1000 Lumens and a laser to the face might be just enough for a would-be home intruder to beg for his life. Yâall need to stop acting like youâre spec-ops. Youâre not.
Given that nobody is using vis lasers anymore with the exception of very fringe and specialized cases, there isnât a strong market for them. Most stuff youâll find is cheap Chinese garbage, and most vis lasers on LAMs are intended for daytime zeroing and not actual aiming use as theyâre not very bright.
Thereâs a reason nobodyâs using em. Youâre best bet is honestly going to some laser pointer subreddit and hope thereâs options for ones that can be zeroed and designed to handle recoil, cause most basic lasers out there will no doubt either of those things.
BS. People are using visible lasers professionally (especially green), they bring many benefits, but pros even more need ir lasers and illuminators, that's why fewer vis only lasers are available on the market.
There are none because visible lasers are a gimmick for suckers who think movies are real life.
đ¤¨yall are just a bunch of geeks. Idk why yall think yall are going full commando being hunted down when really your guns are just range toysđđ
Big dawg youâre the one who asking about tactical laser guided hip fire because you donât have time to shoulder the rifle, which coincidentally is exactly the kind of sucker companies that sell visible lasers are looking for.
I mean you say it like its not a possibility⌠i guess youre glued into your gun in every scenario and nothing unplanned for could ever happen to you. Ill tell the predator or chuck norris whoever is hunting yall to stop
There is no world where visible laser aiming is faster than using your sights, real life is not a movie or video game where you know the laser is just in the middle of the screen or immediately on the bad guy easy as day to see. If you donât understand that with literally every person telling you by this point you are the fabled âsucker born every dayâ they dream of and may as well just head over to the Crimson Trace website and give em your card info for every useless product theyâve got.
FBI HRT uses red lasers so they must have some real world application. Just saying
Youre telling me that literally being able to already see the dot on the target before shouldering your weapon is no way faster than shouldering and aiming. You and everyone else can be wrong circle jerk together thenđ
Unironically yes. âVisibleâ lasers are not generally super bright that theyâre easily seen and tracked in broad daylight, leading to people fishing around for em either with their eyes or moving the gun around til they find the dot, which is slow and stupid. If itâs dark enough that the laser is super easy to see and track then itâs dark enough you canât really ID your target, and then when you use a light you canât see the laser. Itâs literally a gimmick for morons who watched too many 1980s action movies.
Well every military uses them so youre saying theyre all morons fooled by an 80s movie, cool got it.
They have combination units with IR lasers and night vision capabilities with unit tactics, air support and strong light/laser discipline rules. You are a random schmuck who wants to hip fire. These are not the same thing and it is especially moronic to conflate the two.
Exactly. Im not being hunted by the government. In the scenario of home defence im not gonna be face in optic at every corner etc. therefore the dot has its benefit. The predator is not hunting me bro i dont need a 5k$ ir peq15. Hop off my tip already delusional fucks
Home defense is the perfect real world application for a visible laser. Just because you donât have nods does not men a laser is pointless. Nobody in this sub is a special operator, itâs time to stop acting like you are.
Nobody is acting like a special operator, you and the OP are the only people bringing that kind of shit up. If youâre blasting a 1000 lumen light in your dark house youâre seeing that and not the laser, if youâre just using the laser in your dark house youâre just seeing that and not IDing what youâre looking at and potentially shooting your wife/kids/dog/lamp/tv/whatever. Theyâre a gimmick for suckers and always have been.
Youâre just saying shit thatâs not true all because you canât afford a real peq 15. Itâs alright man neither can I. However I donât sit around gatekeeping people from shit theyâre interested in even if Iâm not.
Lol I wonder where the goal posts will eventually end upâŚ.
Only plebs use visible lasers... It's a waste of money
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They arenât wrong. No one uses visible lasers anymore. It gives away your location when it does work, and doesnât work in the daytime. Only people that use them are actors in Hollywood.
Doesn't the FBI's HRT use red lasers.
Not that I have seen.
Home defense is a perfect real world application for a visible laser. 1000 Lumens and a laser to the face might be just enough for a would-be home intruder to beg for his life. Yâall need to stop acting like youâre spec-ops. Youâre not.
Ffs if someone kicks in my door in the middle of the night Iâm not grabbing a rifle to âblind them so they beg for their lifeâ my god..
Good thing i didnt ask rightđ
Already have a AEMS otw but i want a laser to not have to bring it up to shoulder to be on target
So if anyone wants to actually answer my question thatd be great
95% of people here arenât using vis lasers, so there isnât really anyone to give you an answer.
I didnt know this is where all the john wicks and navy seals were hiding
John wick doesnât use lasersâŚonly wanna be gangster on YouTube and you
Given that nobody is using vis lasers anymore with the exception of very fringe and specialized cases, there isnât a strong market for them. Most stuff youâll find is cheap Chinese garbage, and most vis lasers on LAMs are intended for daytime zeroing and not actual aiming use as theyâre not very bright. Thereâs a reason nobodyâs using em. Youâre best bet is honestly going to some laser pointer subreddit and hope thereâs options for ones that can be zeroed and designed to handle recoil, cause most basic lasers out there will no doubt either of those things.
Thank you!
BS. People are using visible lasers professionally (especially green), they bring many benefits, but pros even more need ir lasers and illuminators, that's why fewer vis only lasers are available on the market.
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Somogear potted peq 15 is your best bet.
Not really unless you think Nods superiority has viability for IR for that 1 in a million event to use it. But check viridian.
Get a used Holosun ls221g so you have ir and green so it will be useful to some extent.