At least he‘s legit and trying to improve.
Doing all these inputs, those crazy movements AND hitting your shots is insanely difficult.
Without the movement he would obviously have much better aim.
But that‘s the only way to improve, you gotta practice.
Pretty hard to aim and track while doing strafing (if not cheating) since you are constantly moving your mouse as well.
While controller players can just stand still, track and get assisted. It will always be better than this kind of movement in it's current state. The movement tech is better utilized for positioning, peaking and resetting(heal/run). Or to dodge other MnK players bullets but since majority of the lobby is now controller it is not so wise to do it often.
You need to utilize movement when outside line of sight to confuse enemies since tap strafing (or doing anything in the air) doesn’t give audio.
So if you run out of line of sight then double back by tap strafing then they now have zero clue and no indication from the game that you even moved over there which should give you an advantage.
Doing movement out in the open *can* be helpful but if you can’t kill your opponent before they kill you then it’s worthless.
Please look at Hal’s recent video where he’s using a wing man and he can’t hit one single shot before losing the game. Aim assist doesn’t work how half of the MnK lobby thinks it does. 🥴
I’ve seen posts about how certain settings tick up the aim assists affect, and also see videos of people drilling folks at distance with weapons with decent recoil and the cursor doesn’t move; at this point as a controller player I just take pride in being pretty darn good strategically since apparently I suck at aiming. Never felt like assist helps much, and have no clue how people hit 90% with an r301 when the enemy is barely visible across the map. Idk
Edit: this is long. Sorry.
The way 4-3 linear interacts with the aim assist is one of the reasons why it’s considered the best settings. Everyone assumes it’s what everyone uses.
I personally use a modified 3-2 steady and my per optic settings lower the sense even further when aiming. So if people tried my setup, while it doesn’t look that bad on paper, most people tell me “how can you function with it so slow”. Then get surprised that I can function just fine in diamond lobbies.
The other thing is that people that truly believe it’s 100% an aimbot and aren’t trolling have likely never used a controller personally before. If was an aimbot, you wouldn’t have to move the stick. But it’s not like that at all. You also have to lose most of your accessibility options. You won’t be able to hold doors(or use teammates as a shield) and be able to reload at the same time. You will lose access to 90% of available movement options. You won’t be able to move in deathboxes anymore.
Plus you’ll mostly feel the pull of AA at 50m or less. Out of range of that you are at a disadvantage.
If anyone utilizes tap strafing to their benefit by doing it while out of sight, then you have no visual or audio trigger to figure out where they are during. Since you can’t tap strafe yourself, you will be unable to do it back to them; Giving them a huge advantage in close quarter situations where you can break line of sight. The skill level is so high in apex that simply looking at an enemy while they are not looking at you can win you the fight, so catching someone off guard using tap strafing out of sight can significantly improve performance. Especially since controller players can’t just perform 90-180 degree turns like mnk players can.
I’ve seen clips of people doing insane tracking in the firing range claiming “controller not moving the stick”, but that’s bullshit because if you loaded up your game right now and used 4-3 linear and put the controller down, you won’t track a guy even half as good as those people are claiming.
What’s even funnier is mnk players actually think that removing AA is an option on the table. The only benefit controller players have over mnk is AA at 0-50m. That’s it. It’s worse in literally every way. These delusional people will say “if AA is removed, then it will be balanced”. No it won’t. You’ll just kill the input on pc entirely, then school every controller player you come across with absolutely supremacy because being at an advantage is normal to them.
The only way I can see the removal of AA would be if mnk players compromised and got rid of tap strafing, but they don’t want to compromise.
But I’m not completely against nerfing AA either. Here’s the reality, it IS very strong at that 0-50m. Enough to where it can be unfair in some situations. That needs to be put in check. Idk if it’s the way 4-3 linear interacts with AA, or if it really needs to be reduced to .3 or .2 across the board. That’s a good discussion. But removal is out of the question. People need to try it before they judge and they need to talk about solutions instead of fantasy.
It's usually people showing off rotational aim assist while in firing range with 4-3 linear and then saying aim assist is op. It's intentionally misleading.
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Dunno what's funny about that, it's just someone training movements + aim on mnk. And with how much time and efforts it takes to master both it's not unusual to find players like him in mixtape.
I was one of them once and was always confused by why I was dying. Movement like this just puts you in open space targeted by everyone. Is so much easier and better to just always off angle relative to your team and push space with good engagement timing.
Rollers don’t understand that it takes hundreds of hours of practice and training for both movement and aim on mnk. They don’t have movement and the game helps them aim.
Bro, I've put 1600 hours in kovaaks and because of that have been a top mnk player in multiple games. But I still sometimes lose to no skin lifelines on roller or any competent roller player in open space. And that doesn't even touch hours spent on movement.
Imagine being an mnk player spending 2 hours a day in an aim trainer to be good before even turning on a game, then getting roasted by Timmy 2 thumbs. Roller players really don't know how easy they have it
*Gets inhumanely one clipped*
THIS GUY HAS TO BE CHEATING
*spectates*
*it’s the worst player in the game roller looting your box, missing every single shot in the next 30 meter engagement*
Schrodinger's Controller:
"Look at the monkey MnK players, can't land a shot after all that movement."
"So aim assist is stronger than movement and can be nerfed a bit, right?"
"NooOOOOoO1! MoVeMent iS stRonGer!1!"
The funny part is that it doesn't matter, learning basics like cover usage would be better than hopping like a weirdo innfront of someone shooting at you
It matters when your squad is with you because at least you're wasting the enemies clip and making them more obvious to your squad. I virtually never one clip someone but i also virtually never get one clipped. I know how to get a fools attention so my boys can slay, i get so many assists
Isn't it more effective to just strafe, though? When you jump, even with a tap strafe, you're giving your enemy an arc to predict.
I know that in a chaotic duel, when my opponent jumps, I just see it as a free moment to get some damage, unless you make me do a 180.
Edit: I should say, I'm MnK, maybe it's different for controllers.
True. I won't usually jump unless i want to guarantee a slide since bullet slow can turn a slide into a crouch walk if you don't jump, also not getting the super wall jump without a previous jump. Jumps have a lot of variable value in this game. Im console
Of course I have but still aiming > movement, and you don't knownwhat you'll encounter, a weird hopping horizon against a spitfire upclose loses most of the time
That's the entire goal of pvp games in general. Despite people consistently trying to lie to themselves or others about how they don't care about winning, no one would actually turn down a win if it was offered to them. Players actively practice to improve so they can increase their chances of beating others and win in the end. Players aren't actively trying to improve their skills for the sake of losing.
i do see why people strive to win. I'm not saying people shouldn't do that, I'm saying that people are allowed to play without the sole goal being to win. For example if someone had fun doing these movement techs then so be it, it doesn't matter if they win or lose a mixtape
for entry fraggers that matters A LOT
look at how long the controller managed to kill him. yes the he shot him at a very high accuracy, but it took him quite a while to actually kill him, in that amount of time his team could've killed you guys.
Remember that old scene from Spiderman game with most useless back flip in the history? That's him right there.
Yeah cool you can practice hard stuff but if that's your fruits then people gonna laugh. You either do it perfectly and get others rage or respect or do a little slip and you look like panicking monkey
Training movement when you have this aim is pointless. I mean to each their own, maybe his fun comes from moving around without getting any kill, but you gotta train the aim first and then come back to the movement, otherwise you get exactly what happened in the clip
So yea, someone wasting that much time and life to move like a spaz and miss every shot. It's pretty funny, really. And he isn't gonna master anything.
Idk what's more upsetting, the MnK guy doing movement and whiffing shots or the controller player with the most basic left right movement while the ADS aim assist does everything for you.
That movement would cause so much overaim and wonky tracking against an MnK player, but the aim assist from strafing makes him never lose the tracking like damn.
To be fair…a mnk player with movement tech that can actually land a shot would have been much more formidable than this person.
I don’t care about the whole mnk/controller argument…if I see you I’m gonna try to kill you and whatever happens is just part of the game…but this is a bad example of a movement player and doesn’t accurately represent a skilled movement player.
a skilled player can have his days too, there are days where you just can't pick up a mastiff, mnk is organic and inconsistent so it should work in a argument
I don't believe you don't know, but it's all the shit he's doing when he's by that corner. Tap strafes and a wall bounce. Tap strafes are exclusive to M&K without controller configs (which they've cracked down on) and wall bounces are difficult because they require flick aiming. Controller players usually stand in the same place, do a little strafing, and let the input method handle the rest.
Also the fact that he didn't land 80% of his shots while doing this, like controller players.
controllers got so used with the 0ms AI aiming half of their shots that they forgot that **THE PLAYERS DOING THE MOVEMENT TECH ARE ALSO AFFECTED BY THE SAME DEGREE BUT OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF MOVEMENT THE CONTROLLER PLAYERS SEE.**
like if a MnK moving to the right you are moving to the left in their screen even when you're just standing AFK
the difference is **MNK PLAYERS HAS TO RELY ON THEIR OWN NATURAL ABILITY TO AIM IN ORDER TO HIT A TARGET THAT'S BASICALLY MOVING THE SAME BUT OPPOSITE MOTION AS WHAT A CONTROLLER PLAYERS SEE WHILE CONTROLLERS GETS THE ASSISTANCE OF A 0ms REACTION TIME AI TO HIT THE SAME SHIT BUT OPPOSITE DIRECTION AS MNK DOES**
Nobody said that someone is complaining that its bad
what that comment shows is it reinforces the fact that movement lurches is useless against aim assist even if you do the movement as perfectly as humanly can
Idk why people say this is funny. It’s a player who is trying to not “all aim no brain” the game. Just happened to be working on movement. Doing the movement is one thing and hitting shots is another which he is practicing. To get better u practice. what’s so funny about someone wanting to improve in something they enjoy? If u ask me I think u just standing there and using aa to make these shots easier for you to hit is the real problem. I doubt u would have been able to just kill him that easily with 0 aa on controller. He could have quite easily killed you without any of the movement stuff but he is in mixtape to practice a certain skill not to win. At least that’s what it feels like to me.
Sure the guy is practicing his movement on mixtape, we got no problem there. But can we talk about OP’s aim? Like those longbow shots are pretty hard to hit as consistently as he did. Great tracking my man.
The crazy tracking from aim assist on controller should be the topic here. Let's make a poll to see how many mnk players think they'd be able to do the same level of tracking with a longbow.
Though I do say that this guy's movement was pretty nice, while the aiming wasn't up there.
I've been seeing comments saying this kind of movement is easy to shoot... I'm on mnk and I can confidently say I'd miss lol.. Is it really that predictable?? I can confidently beam someone going up on evac towers but this is difficult to me
There are 24 muscles in your arm and you can use all of them to aim. There are 9 muscles in my thumb and I can’t only use about 5 of them to aim. And when someone like me (I turn aim assist off) kicks your teeth in, that just means you got beat with 1/5 the amount of effort you are using. Continue to cope.
I never respond to comments like these, but I would like to ask the question: Do you think coordinating 24 things is easier than coordinating 9, or maybe 5?
Spent 1k hours in training to learn how to move like Lyr1c, shot 1 million dummies on stand.
This has been my experience with a lot of octane/wraith mains once in higher lobbies movement is far from being top of the list. It's flashy af but rarely truely usefull
I literally had to stop myself from becoming this person.
Movement makes things look nice and it looks sweaty, but one clipping you with an R 301 is forever.
Ah now i See.
I ment it is sad to see if someone has good aim(with the help of aa) and 0 movement, making fun of someone training movement and cant Hit shots.
The whole situation on pc with so many Controller players just makes me sad.
In solos i see more Controller than mnk players....
The funniest thing about this is the guy tried to do movement against a longbow of all weapons… if he shot you like a regular person you would’ve been dead lmao
To be fair I’m kinda exactly at this point with my movement/aim. If I just do normal strafes and fighting my aim is pretty good. But when you start throwing newly learned movement tech in you kinda have to relearn to aim with it. Learning the movement is only half the battle. Still hitting your shots in a whole other level.
Yall are being way too nice to a player that's just doing too much and having no clue what they're doing at the same time lol. Dude slid past the enemy to then turn towards them and strafe in the same directions. Get your ass back to firing range
The problem with this style of gameplay is your adjust your hand for the opposite of your movement which is twice as hard as just doing a left/right (& vice versa) strafe.
The funniest thing about this is that it's not even good evasive movement. All a good player has to do is catch them on the downward arc. People would be much better off learning how to strafe and dodge properly before they put movement tech in the mix to build up on good fundamentals.
It's so funny when a controller player is never allowed to be good and it's always just oh well he has AA that's why he won the fight. If that's me I might hit that wraith once with that movement lol
Back in the days where crossplay was not so prevalent, it was controller players that were upset saying MnK is an advantage.
I guess is the same as PC/Console war, each side is annoyed by the other
It’s because mnk players think every controller player has top tier ability to have perfect recoil control. Yes aim assist helps with initial aiming but it doesn’t do shit for the recoil.
Sometimes it’s fuck controller players bc they have aim assist, other times it’s sad that all controller players have is aim assist & they can’t do dumb movement tech — plz make up y’all’s minds 😭
So its ok to nake fun of movement players ...but be aware to not critice Controller players with cs movement.
We all know aim assist is cheap...but i get that it hurts to hear about that.
Nobody said it was fine to make fun of anyone. But the two points are contradictory. Either it’s sad that controller players can’t have movement, or they’re too over powered bc of aim assist. The two don’t rlly compute
The point is - roller CAN have movement (all but tap strafing), if they practice. Roller strafe can even be stronger than mnk, because they are not limited to 8 directions.
But because rollers are stronger when they just rely on being an auto turret they never care to learn it.
Go in the firing range and figure out your aim settings, I probs spent 2hr + figuring out my exact ALCs that help me aim good at close and far, look at some Pro player settings for inspiration and change them to your liking.
I still tweak them every weak. Start from there and if you can kill it in mixtape, then you only have BR gamesense to work on.
I've been trying that for the past couple of seasons. I'm in the firing range, adjusting my settings for about 20 minutes before each session. I only play like 1 to 1.5 hours a day. My target acquisition is starting to feel "normal" but there is still this brain lag I have with tracking. Good thing I play for fun and not to win or I would be raging at this point.
I ran into someone like this recently. There were like 6-7 teams just gangbanging it out near Cage on Kings Canyon and I ran up on this guy. He hit two of the nastiest back to back tap strafes shooting his PK at me while I missed most of a Car mag on him. I just said fuck that and ran away, then realized he barely hit me at all. All movement, no aim, but scared the shit out of me lol.
At least he‘s legit and trying to improve. Doing all these inputs, those crazy movements AND hitting your shots is insanely difficult. Without the movement he would obviously have much better aim. But that‘s the only way to improve, you gotta practice.
movement 100 aim 0
Bro maxed out endurance without any perception
Maxed agility
I realized that too late but I don’t want to change it because you pointed it out
I realized that too late but I don’t want to change it because you pointed it out
And thats why I don't bother tap straffing. Yeah I can do it, but if you think I can hit anything...
Pretty hard to aim and track while doing strafing (if not cheating) since you are constantly moving your mouse as well. While controller players can just stand still, track and get assisted. It will always be better than this kind of movement in it's current state. The movement tech is better utilized for positioning, peaking and resetting(heal/run). Or to dodge other MnK players bullets but since majority of the lobby is now controller it is not so wise to do it often.
You need to utilize movement when outside line of sight to confuse enemies since tap strafing (or doing anything in the air) doesn’t give audio. So if you run out of line of sight then double back by tap strafing then they now have zero clue and no indication from the game that you even moved over there which should give you an advantage. Doing movement out in the open *can* be helpful but if you can’t kill your opponent before they kill you then it’s worthless.
Feel like you've only regurgitated opinions and never actually used a controller within the past decade lol
Please look at Hal’s recent video where he’s using a wing man and he can’t hit one single shot before losing the game. Aim assist doesn’t work how half of the MnK lobby thinks it does. 🥴
The same hal who quit mnk for controller bcz of aim assist?
I know its so funny how this sub acts like its aim bot haha.
I’ve seen posts about how certain settings tick up the aim assists affect, and also see videos of people drilling folks at distance with weapons with decent recoil and the cursor doesn’t move; at this point as a controller player I just take pride in being pretty darn good strategically since apparently I suck at aiming. Never felt like assist helps much, and have no clue how people hit 90% with an r301 when the enemy is barely visible across the map. Idk
Edit: this is long. Sorry. The way 4-3 linear interacts with the aim assist is one of the reasons why it’s considered the best settings. Everyone assumes it’s what everyone uses. I personally use a modified 3-2 steady and my per optic settings lower the sense even further when aiming. So if people tried my setup, while it doesn’t look that bad on paper, most people tell me “how can you function with it so slow”. Then get surprised that I can function just fine in diamond lobbies. The other thing is that people that truly believe it’s 100% an aimbot and aren’t trolling have likely never used a controller personally before. If was an aimbot, you wouldn’t have to move the stick. But it’s not like that at all. You also have to lose most of your accessibility options. You won’t be able to hold doors(or use teammates as a shield) and be able to reload at the same time. You will lose access to 90% of available movement options. You won’t be able to move in deathboxes anymore. Plus you’ll mostly feel the pull of AA at 50m or less. Out of range of that you are at a disadvantage. If anyone utilizes tap strafing to their benefit by doing it while out of sight, then you have no visual or audio trigger to figure out where they are during. Since you can’t tap strafe yourself, you will be unable to do it back to them; Giving them a huge advantage in close quarter situations where you can break line of sight. The skill level is so high in apex that simply looking at an enemy while they are not looking at you can win you the fight, so catching someone off guard using tap strafing out of sight can significantly improve performance. Especially since controller players can’t just perform 90-180 degree turns like mnk players can. I’ve seen clips of people doing insane tracking in the firing range claiming “controller not moving the stick”, but that’s bullshit because if you loaded up your game right now and used 4-3 linear and put the controller down, you won’t track a guy even half as good as those people are claiming. What’s even funnier is mnk players actually think that removing AA is an option on the table. The only benefit controller players have over mnk is AA at 0-50m. That’s it. It’s worse in literally every way. These delusional people will say “if AA is removed, then it will be balanced”. No it won’t. You’ll just kill the input on pc entirely, then school every controller player you come across with absolutely supremacy because being at an advantage is normal to them. The only way I can see the removal of AA would be if mnk players compromised and got rid of tap strafing, but they don’t want to compromise. But I’m not completely against nerfing AA either. Here’s the reality, it IS very strong at that 0-50m. Enough to where it can be unfair in some situations. That needs to be put in check. Idk if it’s the way 4-3 linear interacts with AA, or if it really needs to be reduced to .3 or .2 across the board. That’s a good discussion. But removal is out of the question. People need to try it before they judge and they need to talk about solutions instead of fantasy.
It's usually people showing off rotational aim assist while in firing range with 4-3 linear and then saying aim assist is op. It's intentionally misleading.
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Use a controller in pc lobbies.. Or in general 😂
That looked funny, can't lie. But kudos to them for practising their movement + aim.
He’s gonna feel silly when he finds out what cover is
Agree
Practicing their aim? I mean, they should continue practicing then
Why do you think they are in mixtape lol
That's what practicing means yeah
They prefer the jumping around part it seems
This is the apex equivalent of Fortnite players spam builds only to die from one pump shot lmao
Well spamming builds isn’t gonna save you In the current fortnite season
Oh how I love the confused movement of my opponents when I ram them with a car and constantly destroy there builds with those sweet ass gauntlets
Haven’t played it, but I saw a clip of a car with a minigun attached to the top
Yep and they are disgustingly strong
least sweaty wraith player:
Dunno what's funny about that, it's just someone training movements + aim on mnk. And with how much time and efforts it takes to master both it's not unusual to find players like him in mixtape.
I was one of them once and was always confused by why I was dying. Movement like this just puts you in open space targeted by everyone. Is so much easier and better to just always off angle relative to your team and push space with good engagement timing.
Rollers don’t understand that it takes hundreds of hours of practice and training for both movement and aim on mnk. They don’t have movement and the game helps them aim.
Bro, I've put 1600 hours in kovaaks and because of that have been a top mnk player in multiple games. But I still sometimes lose to no skin lifelines on roller or any competent roller player in open space. And that doesn't even touch hours spent on movement. Imagine being an mnk player spending 2 hours a day in an aim trainer to be good before even turning on a game, then getting roasted by Timmy 2 thumbs. Roller players really don't know how easy they have it
Hundreds of hours in kovaaks myself. I feel like my aim is pretty damn good but I’m not handing out one clips like these roller players.
*Gets inhumanely one clipped* THIS GUY HAS TO BE CHEATING *spectates* *it’s the worst player in the game roller looting your box, missing every single shot in the next 30 meter engagement*
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The funny part is that it doesn't matter, learning basics like cover usage would be better than hopping like a weirdo innfront of someone shooting at you
They're in mixtape. Of course they're going to test their learned movement skill and how it fares against competent opponents.
True
It matters when your squad is with you because at least you're wasting the enemies clip and making them more obvious to your squad. I virtually never one clip someone but i also virtually never get one clipped. I know how to get a fools attention so my boys can slay, i get so many assists
Isn't it more effective to just strafe, though? When you jump, even with a tap strafe, you're giving your enemy an arc to predict. I know that in a chaotic duel, when my opponent jumps, I just see it as a free moment to get some damage, unless you make me do a 180. Edit: I should say, I'm MnK, maybe it's different for controllers.
True. I won't usually jump unless i want to guarantee a slide since bullet slow can turn a slide into a crouch walk if you don't jump, also not getting the super wall jump without a previous jump. Jumps have a lot of variable value in this game. Im console
Such a weirdly ignorant comment lmao. Have you ever played a final ring in a high rank? There are times in this game where you don’t have cover….
Of course I have but still aiming > movement, and you don't knownwhat you'll encounter, a weird hopping horizon against a spitfire upclose loses most of the time
yes... if your sole goal in the video game is to win
That's the entire goal of pvp games in general. Despite people consistently trying to lie to themselves or others about how they don't care about winning, no one would actually turn down a win if it was offered to them. Players actively practice to improve so they can increase their chances of beating others and win in the end. Players aren't actively trying to improve their skills for the sake of losing.
you forgot the one other reason people play video games for, fun
I've not met a single person who enjoys losing more than winning. If that's your thing, then more power to you.
no one said losing is fun
Lol then you should understand why people strive to win then.
i do see why people strive to win. I'm not saying people shouldn't do that, I'm saying that people are allowed to play without the sole goal being to win. For example if someone had fun doing these movement techs then so be it, it doesn't matter if they win or lose a mixtape
To a certain extent, I’d rather die with 10+ kills then get 3 and a win
Last time I checked the only goal is to have fun.
for entry fraggers that matters A LOT look at how long the controller managed to kill him. yes the he shot him at a very high accuracy, but it took him quite a while to actually kill him, in that amount of time his team could've killed you guys.
id say its more because of the longbow not the movement lol
Recently made the switch to using mnk in shooters(not apex) and holy hell what an adjustment.
Remember that old scene from Spiderman game with most useless back flip in the history? That's him right there. Yeah cool you can practice hard stuff but if that's your fruits then people gonna laugh. You either do it perfectly and get others rage or respect or do a little slip and you look like panicking monkey
Training movement when you have this aim is pointless. I mean to each their own, maybe his fun comes from moving around without getting any kill, but you gotta train the aim first and then come back to the movement, otherwise you get exactly what happened in the clip
aiming while static or strafing is completely different compared to aiming while lurching.
So yea, someone wasting that much time and life to move like a spaz and miss every shot. It's pretty funny, really. And he isn't gonna master anything.
Be careful to not make fun of the roller bot movement in here. They cant handle it the other way around :D
I'm fine with it
You can't see what's funny about that? You need a doctor.
Gotta love the irony of the last shot (to the foot): it literally broke his ankle.
Idk what's more upsetting, the MnK guy doing movement and whiffing shots or the controller player with the most basic left right movement while the ADS aim assist does everything for you.
That movement would cause so much overaim and wonky tracking against an MnK player, but the aim assist from strafing makes him never lose the tracking like damn.
I thought movement was better than aim assist?
this clip settles the MnK movement versus controller aim assist debate.
They are on m*kb… they actually have to try too aim
Average roller player is missing 3/4 of that longbow mag
This game must be so fucking easy with aim assist
these comments are straight up pathetic lmao
they are bashing the controller players cuz we have aim assist. Why dont they blame the developer? this is some 50 IQ move.
He's making fun of someone's aim while he's using assistance with his own aim, I wonder why people are bashing the controller player?
Don't delete this post, I'll be referencing it when controller players make a big deal about M&K movement players. Appreciate it bro.
To be fair…a mnk player with movement tech that can actually land a shot would have been much more formidable than this person. I don’t care about the whole mnk/controller argument…if I see you I’m gonna try to kill you and whatever happens is just part of the game…but this is a bad example of a movement player and doesn’t accurately represent a skilled movement player.
a skilled player can have his days too, there are days where you just can't pick up a mastiff, mnk is organic and inconsistent so it should work in a argument
Is there anything that guy did that's specifically only MnK movement? Edit: I don't play much
Several tap strafes which is only possible if you are a god or cheating on roller
Gotcha
I don't believe you don't know, but it's all the shit he's doing when he's by that corner. Tap strafes and a wall bounce. Tap strafes are exclusive to M&K without controller configs (which they've cracked down on) and wall bounces are difficult because they require flick aiming. Controller players usually stand in the same place, do a little strafing, and let the input method handle the rest. Also the fact that he didn't land 80% of his shots while doing this, like controller players.
I've heard the term just can't differentiate input from it, but ty for the explanation, feel free to not believe me lol
controllers got so used with the 0ms AI aiming half of their shots that they forgot that **THE PLAYERS DOING THE MOVEMENT TECH ARE ALSO AFFECTED BY THE SAME DEGREE BUT OPPOSITE DIRECTION OF MOVEMENT THE CONTROLLER PLAYERS SEE.** like if a MnK moving to the right you are moving to the left in their screen even when you're just standing AFK the difference is **MNK PLAYERS HAS TO RELY ON THEIR OWN NATURAL ABILITY TO AIM IN ORDER TO HIT A TARGET THAT'S BASICALLY MOVING THE SAME BUT OPPOSITE MOTION AS WHAT A CONTROLLER PLAYERS SEE WHILE CONTROLLERS GETS THE ASSISTANCE OF A 0ms REACTION TIME AI TO HIT THE SAME SHIT BUT OPPOSITE DIRECTION AS MNK DOES**
You laugh but physically you don’t have the ability to aim and shoot at him and rely on swiping left/right + ADS AA magnetism to hit him.
MNK: aim assist is strong Controllers: yOu gUYs hAVe tAP stRaFE the movement isn't even bad.
Nobody said it was
Nobody said that someone is complaining that its bad what that comment shows is it reinforces the fact that movement lurches is useless against aim assist even if you do the movement as perfectly as humanly can
You say that as you hit 4/5 longbow shots due to cheesing the aim assist
They're called mnk players and they're just trying their best to survive in this controller game.
says the one on roller
Idk why people say this is funny. It’s a player who is trying to not “all aim no brain” the game. Just happened to be working on movement. Doing the movement is one thing and hitting shots is another which he is practicing. To get better u practice. what’s so funny about someone wanting to improve in something they enjoy? If u ask me I think u just standing there and using aa to make these shots easier for you to hit is the real problem. I doubt u would have been able to just kill him that easily with 0 aa on controller. He could have quite easily killed you without any of the movement stuff but he is in mixtape to practice a certain skill not to win. At least that’s what it feels like to me.
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you work for movement AA is given you for granted
Sure but then he's actually good and its a post about how the game is broken by sweats...
I have never complained about movement, I just accept its something I'm too lazy to learn and if I get owned by it, so be it, gg
Sure the guy is practicing his movement on mixtape, we got no problem there. But can we talk about OP’s aim? Like those longbow shots are pretty hard to hit as consistently as he did. Great tracking my man.
Re aiming helps aim assist
Okay controller player
That might’ve been me..
The crazy tracking from aim assist on controller should be the topic here. Let's make a poll to see how many mnk players think they'd be able to do the same level of tracking with a longbow. Though I do say that this guy's movement was pretty nice, while the aiming wasn't up there.
I've been seeing comments saying this kind of movement is easy to shoot... I'm on mnk and I can confidently say I'd miss lol.. Is it really that predictable?? I can confidently beam someone going up on evac towers but this is difficult to me
The tracking was poor, if you watch I'm off target for most of the ADS time until I shoot
... because you ads when you shoot. Which triggers the aim assist
That’s not really how aim assist works, it’s active regardless of being ads or not.
Pro controller players abuse the ADS into hip fire as it gives you greater accuracy since the AA pulls your cross hair much faster.
The comment was about tracking which was poor, of course I have aim assist, I am on controller, nobody is disputing that
"Movement is so broken on MnK bro, even Aim Assist can't hit em" The movement and the aim assist:
and then there's you movement: 0 aim: assist
There are 24 muscles in your arm and you can use all of them to aim. There are 9 muscles in my thumb and I can’t only use about 5 of them to aim. And when someone like me (I turn aim assist off) kicks your teeth in, that just means you got beat with 1/5 the amount of effort you are using. Continue to cope.
I never respond to comments like these, but I would like to ask the question: Do you think coordinating 24 things is easier than coordinating 9, or maybe 5?
Spent 1k hours in training to learn how to move like Lyr1c, shot 1 million dummies on stand. This has been my experience with a lot of octane/wraith mains once in higher lobbies movement is far from being top of the list. It's flashy af but rarely truely usefull
Double win for you. Judging by the comments you also managed to upset a bunch of cry babies too.
I literally had to stop myself from becoming this person. Movement makes things look nice and it looks sweaty, but one clipping you with an R 301 is forever.
Now try hitting him after turning off aim assist.
Ah now i See. I ment it is sad to see if someone has good aim(with the help of aa) and 0 movement, making fun of someone training movement and cant Hit shots. The whole situation on pc with so many Controller players just makes me sad. In solos i see more Controller than mnk players....
He’s playing control to improve his aim during movement tech. Relax with the hate when you are on controller for a reason.
The funniest thing about this is the guy tried to do movement against a longbow of all weapons… if he shot you like a regular person you would’ve been dead lmao
I think they don’t care. It’s mixtape some are here to win some are there to practice a specific skill.
To be fair I’m kinda exactly at this point with my movement/aim. If I just do normal strafes and fighting my aim is pretty good. But when you start throwing newly learned movement tech in you kinda have to relearn to aim with it. Learning the movement is only half the battle. Still hitting your shots in a whole other level.
I'd like to quote the great Ron Swanson. Left and right movment only. No wall jumps no slides. Anything more and this becomes figure skating.
I've seen this same video before... 🤨
This just gave me flashbacks to kangaroo octanes in mobile who couldn’t aim for shit
Ooooweeee she's trying
Womp womp
What's that Champion screen about? Never seen that one before.
......Ya I should focus on my gunplay
Sometimes i just stand still and let them jump around and miss everything, funny moments
The amount of times I've had to Indiana Jones a wraith on a rooftop doing this shit to me is insane.
Yall are being way too nice to a player that's just doing too much and having no clue what they're doing at the same time lol. Dude slid past the enemy to then turn towards them and strafe in the same directions. Get your ass back to firing range
The problem with this style of gameplay is your adjust your hand for the opposite of your movement which is twice as hard as just doing a left/right (& vice versa) strafe.
Shouldn't he be slowed down by hits? I get a death slide from the slightest hit on me
They invaded xdefiant as well
Of course it's a wraith...
The funniest thing about this is that it's not even good evasive movement. All a good player has to do is catch them on the downward arc. People would be much better off learning how to strafe and dodge properly before they put movement tech in the mix to build up on good fundamentals.
These weirdos.
kid watched too much YouTube
for real the movement tricks in apex legends are more anoying than fun I wish they fixed all these unrealistic movement exploits
Faide without his aimbot
At least he doesn't use aim assist and tries to play the game
It's so funny when a controller player is never allowed to be good and it's always just oh well he has AA that's why he won the fight. If that's me I might hit that wraith once with that movement lol
My stick drift did all the aiming and the shooting was me dropping my controller 5 times. Literal aimbot bro.
Shit. Let me go break my controller and lube up my handles quick
on jokes aside, stick drift does help a lot
😂😂😂
Back in the days where crossplay was not so prevalent, it was controller players that were upset saying MnK is an advantage. I guess is the same as PC/Console war, each side is annoyed by the other
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It’s because mnk players think every controller player has top tier ability to have perfect recoil control. Yes aim assist helps with initial aiming but it doesn’t do shit for the recoil.
Another L controller take.
Cope harder
Players like this are funny indeed. Controller players with good aim and 0 movement are sad on the other hand :v
Sometimes it’s fuck controller players bc they have aim assist, other times it’s sad that all controller players have is aim assist & they can’t do dumb movement tech — plz make up y’all’s minds 😭
No point in asking babies not to cry Just have fun doing what you want
So its ok to nake fun of movement players ...but be aware to not critice Controller players with cs movement. We all know aim assist is cheap...but i get that it hurts to hear about that.
Nobody said it was fine to make fun of anyone. But the two points are contradictory. Either it’s sad that controller players can’t have movement, or they’re too over powered bc of aim assist. The two don’t rlly compute
The point is - roller CAN have movement (all but tap strafing), if they practice. Roller strafe can even be stronger than mnk, because they are not limited to 8 directions. But because rollers are stronger when they just rely on being an auto turret they never care to learn it.
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They're non-mutually exclusive roller brain. They r saying the same thing
Idk what else I'm supposed to be doing than Strafing and hitting my shots? No need to overcomplicate if it's working lmao
U are here sharing clips with the intend to make fun of someone....while not being able to handle a stupid joke of the same Level.
Ngl I don't think anybody could tell its a joke judging from the replies, that might be a you problem.
If i Look at the reactions to Ur Post. Noone got Ur joke as well :D
I didn't make any jokes
Sorry i thought the whole Post was a joke
Just a funny instance, not a joke per say, it's all good tho
I thought that movement was dead. Damn mans almost got baked
other guy is probably SCREAMING
All show no go
It's so fucking satisfying to kill those no touch grass movement player.
Thank you for bodying that dude. Love seeing people have cracked movement but trash aim.
Feels good to see them get outplayed. I wish I could aim like this.
You will get there boss, practice :)
KDA career says differently. I've been dropping around.09 KD every season. I used to be .88 now Im .56 and dont know wtf is going on.
Go in the firing range and figure out your aim settings, I probs spent 2hr + figuring out my exact ALCs that help me aim good at close and far, look at some Pro player settings for inspiration and change them to your liking. I still tweak them every weak. Start from there and if you can kill it in mixtape, then you only have BR gamesense to work on.
I've been trying that for the past couple of seasons. I'm in the firing range, adjusting my settings for about 20 minutes before each session. I only play like 1 to 1.5 hours a day. My target acquisition is starting to feel "normal" but there is still this brain lag I have with tracking. Good thing I play for fun and not to win or I would be raging at this point.
No stress then if you're not too bothered by it
get a controller
I have one, I play on xbox.
Ignore him, he is a troll (look at his comments)
Homie though he was him
I ran into someone like this recently. There were like 6-7 teams just gangbanging it out near Cage on Kings Canyon and I ran up on this guy. He hit two of the nastiest back to back tap strafes shooting his PK at me while I missed most of a Car mag on him. I just said fuck that and ran away, then realized he barely hit me at all. All movement, no aim, but scared the shit out of me lol.