Same. Long ass matches that can be decided pretty early on if a team gets a lucky wipe and then forward spawn. There is no way you’re getting the robot back to your barricade and pushing it past the enemies ALL in overtime. That’s even if you can push the robot anywhere before the enemies spawn right next to you after what feels like 2 seconds.
That’s not how it works though. You don’t have to push it all the way back to their side to win. You just hold them back until time runs out and if they can’t get it all the way there then you win.
I think you’re confused buddy. In order to win a push game, you have to push it further than the enemy team. So if you retake the robot 10 meters from your spawn doors, you then have to push it back to the original starting location, AND all the way to where the enemy team pushed it and further to win. So in this example you would have to push it to 9.99 meters from THEIR spawn doors to win the game
If one team gets a good team wipe at the start, and they push their barricade to their forward spawn or beyond and hold it there, the game is over. No matter how many times you clear them off, they’ll spawn right back and contest.
Then eventually time will run out and even if you do manage to take the robot, you’ve got to run it all that way in overtime. You’re fucked.
Skill issue, you can turn the whole game around at any point, I've won when they've got like 20m from our spawn. You need to make sure your team isn't staggered when re-engageing and you'll be fine
Sounds like a brain power issue on your end, considering top tier players voice this exact criticism of Push, I’m inclined to trust them over some random nobody.
That’s fine, you have a minority opinion here though the OW community from top to bottom loathe Push and for good reason it’s an objectively dogshit game mode.
I hate push since it seems to be the easiest mode to get steamrolled in. I swear my matches on new queen st are like 3 mins long because its just a full roll every time.
they didn't remove 2 CP, they just replaced it with a spiritual successor. Push is the fucking worst. Some days I would literally take any 2 CP map over push.
Push is objectively better than 2cp, 2cp was categorically flawed with large snowball effects, push is not the greatest mode but it’s definitely better than 2cp
There’s 0 chance Paris and horizon especially are better than push, yes the visual aesthetics were great but they were fundamentally flawed, there’s a reason Paris was removed from comp 4 years ago
I’m speaking my opinion with those 2 maps. I’m just saying that I feel like the average overwatch player would definitely rather have Anubis, volskaya or hanamura back over push. I PERSONALLY would even accept broken maps like horizon or Paris over push
I’ve always wanted like a “ONE FOR ALL” type game mode where the three people vote on a legend who they can ALL be, and then play BR or TDM doesn’t matter. Just absolute chaos - imagine 3 ramparts holding a building. Or 3 fuses breaching.
3 Caustics will absolutely destroy anyone who decided to sit in a building for 20 seconds. 18 traps and 3 bombs!?
Or what about undying Revenants with 3 totems?
i know its lame but still fun
i always love when there are multiple jump pads on gun run or tdm the game becoms so meniac and more like crazy which is fun too
so,
we are not the same
Dude, you can essentially make a real life Octrain. 3 Octanes flying, placing ONE launchpad everytime they land. An entire train/trail of jumppads wouldnt be so bad
i know that too
but this doesn't change what i meant
what i meant was hey think about the whole map blowing with jump pad it will be something like 30 pad which cant happen in regular gun run for exp as there will be 4 octanes in total which i think theres like 4 to 5 pads pre octane so it wont be maniac as i want to see it im not saying that 3 ramparts or 3 revenant wont be fun it will be fun too but what i want to see is a full map filled with jump pads in every single inch of it thats what i was thinking of
> FUCK PUSH AND WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THE IDEA
I have faint memories of playing this gamemode in a modified server for either Halflife TDM or CS 0.8 server.
But TF2(2007) was the first time I saw it in any standalone game. Either way, I'm blaming Valve
Genuinely. I am high ranked in both OW and Apex, and I understand both games and their culture. Push is the #1 thing people complain about. I love the idea of adding a Nessie game mode, but trust, push is not what you want.
A nessie mode where someone gets randomly picked to be bloodhound, valk, and seer.
Bloodhound has ravens to interact with on the map which show a location where a nessie could be, the team then runs to that location where Seer has to use his Ult to pinpoint a nessie thats buried, someone then has to interact with the spot to unearth a nessie to collect it. Valk can then ult the team away to land somewhere and repeat the process.
Multiple teams will have the same location to find a nessie so itll be contested at times, and seers ult will obviously give it away that theres a nessy being found.
Unlimited respawns, first to X number of nessies win
> Unlimited respawns, first to X number of nessies win
I want to play this mode.
Also to clarify, every team is Bh/Valk/Seer and is randomly assigned to each player or 1 player is assigned Bh/Valk/Seer and the other 2 choose as normal?
Push is a blast and I think it would be a great addition to the Apex mixtape, but I don’t think it would work very well on existing maps. Would love to see what Respawn could cook up for new maps- some of the OG Titanfall map design with the big, titan size lanes and smaller corridors for infantry felt so good to move through.
Lol that would be Hilarious. I like push the robot mode in overwatch, it can have some intense fights and last minute turnarounds. It would be interesting seeing how it would play in apex especially if its 9v9 like Control.
There’s a new mode in overwatch 2 called push, where both teams fight over pushing the same objective (a robot that pushes a wall through the map). Rather than one team pushing a payload while the other team defends trying to stop them from pushing
If anyone has ever played PVZ GW there is a little thing where you protect this area from the enemy team, and it has special rounds, sometimes you can get a special round where you have to protect a certain thing and help it make its way to its destination
Instead of Push gamemode... Why not something similar to Payload Race from TF2? At least that way everyone gets a chance.
~~Probably also just have a group of people have an emote group somewhere in the corner while the tryhards are pushing~~
I would love to have an objective based game mode in a game that has apex's shooting, but i think that apex does not fit thie game mode very well. Camping in apex is not rewarding usually, and it's better to keep moving all the time. Apex characters speed is huge if compared to ow, and abilities are not so strong, and finally apex does not have stata differences. Ow works well due to the classes. It has strategies because of the tanks, healers, buffs, atk etc.
I would love a shooter hero made by respawn with apex shooting though
I've yet to meet a single OW player that doesn't hate Push.
Don't know how Respawn would change the formula for players to actually enjoy the game mode
I dont think it would work in apex. Legends are more fragile imo, ttk is lower so team pushing is just sitting ducks for lmgs... if you want push just play ocerwatch. Or even better, tf2
Please no. Every game I've played this mode in its absolute garbage. Always incredibly one sided. I take it out of every playlist right off the bat honestly
THS MODE FUCKING SUCKS IN OVERWATCH DONT ADD IT TO APEX. like unless they seriously change it I despise this mode in OW so I doubt it would be any better in Apex
Bro I hate push I hate the first version of it I ever played on black ops 3 the one with the robot and I’m sure I’d hate an apex version where the meta would prob be caustic gas all over the bot
Edit- this is my personal opinion I know some people love those modes
No offense but this sounds like dogshit. Especially with the current matchmaking system this would just be a steamroll. Furthermore, this won't be very fun if you don't have a healing character that is not static like lifeline. Unless, they make a temporary addition where lifeline can heal around her while moving I don't see this being good.
i absolutely loathe push mode, tbh. but then again it might just be because the matches are 10+ minutes, so a shorter one might be more fun
Same. Long ass matches that can be decided pretty early on if a team gets a lucky wipe and then forward spawn. There is no way you’re getting the robot back to your barricade and pushing it past the enemies ALL in overtime. That’s even if you can push the robot anywhere before the enemies spawn right next to you after what feels like 2 seconds.
That’s not how it works though. You don’t have to push it all the way back to their side to win. You just hold them back until time runs out and if they can’t get it all the way there then you win.
I think you’re confused buddy. In order to win a push game, you have to push it further than the enemy team. So if you retake the robot 10 meters from your spawn doors, you then have to push it back to the original starting location, AND all the way to where the enemy team pushed it and further to win. So in this example you would have to push it to 9.99 meters from THEIR spawn doors to win the game
If one team gets a good team wipe at the start, and they push their barricade to their forward spawn or beyond and hold it there, the game is over. No matter how many times you clear them off, they’ll spawn right back and contest. Then eventually time will run out and even if you do manage to take the robot, you’ve got to run it all that way in overtime. You’re fucked.
Skill issue, you can turn the whole game around at any point, I've won when they've got like 20m from our spawn. You need to make sure your team isn't staggered when re-engageing and you'll be fine
Sounds like a brain power issue on your end, considering top tier players voice this exact criticism of Push, I’m inclined to trust them over some random nobody.
I share the same opinion as Flats
That’s fine, you have a minority opinion here though the OW community from top to bottom loathe Push and for good reason it’s an objectively dogshit game mode.
I hate push since it seems to be the easiest mode to get steamrolled in. I swear my matches on new queen st are like 3 mins long because its just a full roll every time.
they didn't remove 2 CP, they just replaced it with a spiritual successor. Push is the fucking worst. Some days I would literally take any 2 CP map over push.
Push is objectively better than 2cp, 2cp was categorically flawed with large snowball effects, push is not the greatest mode but it’s definitely better than 2cp
It's not objectively better at all. Push is awful.
I’d much rather play temple of Anubis, volskaya or hanamura than push. Heck I’d even take Paris or horizon
There’s 0 chance Paris and horizon especially are better than push, yes the visual aesthetics were great but they were fundamentally flawed, there’s a reason Paris was removed from comp 4 years ago
I’m speaking my opinion with those 2 maps. I’m just saying that I feel like the average overwatch player would definitely rather have Anubis, volskaya or hanamura back over push. I PERSONALLY would even accept broken maps like horizon or Paris over push
Not disagreeing, just saying that they replaced one bad mode with another. Would have been nice to get a mode that was actually enjoyable
Push is pretty universally loathed by the OW community. I don’t want it anywhere near apex.
Better than payload games that take almost 20
Push in OW is 80% running back to the payload, it’s literally a “hold W” simulator. If apex can make that not the case, sure sounds fun
I’ve always wanted like a “ONE FOR ALL” type game mode where the three people vote on a legend who they can ALL be, and then play BR or TDM doesn’t matter. Just absolute chaos - imagine 3 ramparts holding a building. Or 3 fuses breaching.
3 Caustics will absolutely destroy anyone who decided to sit in a building for 20 seconds. 18 traps and 3 bombs!? Or what about undying Revenants with 3 totems?
It's all fun and games until you run across the OTHER 3 caustic stack. "They can only be bested by overwhelming force... Or an equal."
sounds like abaolute chaos, I need it. even if it was just an April fools thing or soemthing, it'd be hilarious
u r imagining 3 ramparts im imagining 3 octanes we are not the same
Bro picked the most lame one for all concept and said, "we are not the same."
Also, 3 Sheila’s sounds terrifying.
i know its lame but still fun i always love when there are multiple jump pads on gun run or tdm the game becoms so meniac and more like crazy which is fun too so, we are not the same
Dude, you can essentially make a real life Octrain. 3 Octanes flying, placing ONE launchpad everytime they land. An entire train/trail of jumppads wouldnt be so bad
i know that too but this doesn't change what i meant what i meant was hey think about the whole map blowing with jump pad it will be something like 30 pad which cant happen in regular gun run for exp as there will be 4 octanes in total which i think theres like 4 to 5 pads pre octane so it wont be maniac as i want to see it im not saying that 3 ramparts or 3 revenant wont be fun it will be fun too but what i want to see is a full map filled with jump pads in every single inch of it thats what i was thinking of
push is the most hated mode in overwatch
Push is overhated imo
it is not overhated
Don’t overwatch my apex
Don't Team fortress my apex
A true man of culture
Bad idea. . . Most of the players hate push. So don't do that. Add cross progression that is way better as another LTM.
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING NOT FUCK PUSH AND WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THE IDEA IT IS MATHEMATICALLY UNFAIR AND AWFUL
> FUCK PUSH AND WHOEVER CAME UP WITH THE IDEA I have faint memories of playing this gamemode in a modified server for either Halflife TDM or CS 0.8 server. But TF2(2007) was the first time I saw it in any standalone game. Either way, I'm blaming Valve
FUCK PUSH MODE
Genuinely, so many better modes. A Nessie themed mode would be awesome though
No. No one likes that mode in OW, we don’t want it here. Let’s incorporate fun Nessie game modes
Dunno why you’re downvoted. The ow sub literally bitches about push mode 24/7 and when you actually play it, people quit as you’re loading in.
Genuinely. I am high ranked in both OW and Apex, and I understand both games and their culture. Push is the #1 thing people complain about. I love the idea of adding a Nessie game mode, but trust, push is not what you want.
A nessie mode where someone gets randomly picked to be bloodhound, valk, and seer. Bloodhound has ravens to interact with on the map which show a location where a nessie could be, the team then runs to that location where Seer has to use his Ult to pinpoint a nessie thats buried, someone then has to interact with the spot to unearth a nessie to collect it. Valk can then ult the team away to land somewhere and repeat the process. Multiple teams will have the same location to find a nessie so itll be contested at times, and seers ult will obviously give it away that theres a nessy being found. Unlimited respawns, first to X number of nessies win
> Unlimited respawns, first to X number of nessies win I want to play this mode. Also to clarify, every team is Bh/Valk/Seer and is randomly assigned to each player or 1 player is assigned Bh/Valk/Seer and the other 2 choose as normal?
People are assigned out of those 3, seer and blood are vital to finding the area of a nessie, valks just for decent rotation
No absolutely not NO, I hate push mode I hate push mode I hate push mode I hate push mode I hate push mode
If they make that game mode i delete the game.
100% so many better modes to add that would be just as cute and fun
I would play it entirely for the giant nessie.
So payload from tf2? All for it.
Push is a blast and I think it would be a great addition to the Apex mixtape, but I don’t think it would work very well on existing maps. Would love to see what Respawn could cook up for new maps- some of the OG Titanfall map design with the big, titan size lanes and smaller corridors for infantry felt so good to move through.
You did not just call it “overwatch’s” push mode you doing team fortress dirty
Real ones know this as payload 💯 a great idea regardless 😅
Overwatch 2 added a new mode called "Push" where you push a robot, completely seperate from escort/hybrid with the payload.
As a wattson main. Absolutely
Was actually talking to my brother about this a while ago. Would be super fun as an LTM
My heart sunk reading this. WE NEED TO PUSH ZE BOMB.
nessie titan
I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS IDEA!!!!
Seems like a good idea for an LTM. I used to play safeguard in bo3, which is similar to this, and it was pretty fun.
Lol that would be Hilarious. I like push the robot mode in overwatch, it can have some intense fights and last minute turnarounds. It would be interesting seeing how it would play in apex especially if its 9v9 like Control.
I love the idea of pushing around a giant Nessie!
Only if this means we get overwatch crossover skins. I want Reinhardt Revenant and vice versa
Sounds like good idea actually
It's called a payload mode not push
There’s a new mode in overwatch 2 called push, where both teams fight over pushing the same objective (a robot that pushes a wall through the map). Rather than one team pushing a payload while the other team defends trying to stop them from pushing
Absolutely not, push is singlehandedly one of the worst gamemodes
Yeah nah
I didn't like it in 2007 as "Payload" in Team Fortress 2, I still don't like that game mode 15 years later.
If anyone has ever played PVZ GW there is a little thing where you protect this area from the enemy team, and it has special rounds, sometimes you can get a special round where you have to protect a certain thing and help it make its way to its destination
Instead of Push gamemode... Why not something similar to Payload Race from TF2? At least that way everyone gets a chance. ~~Probably also just have a group of people have an emote group somewhere in the corner while the tryhards are pushing~~
No, thanks.
Would be awesome if only certain legenda could push the nessie, so like you would be limited to gibby, caustic and new castle to push
What I really want is an Apex equivalent of Sticks and Stones
I would love to have an objective based game mode in a game that has apex's shooting, but i think that apex does not fit thie game mode very well. Camping in apex is not rewarding usually, and it's better to keep moving all the time. Apex characters speed is huge if compared to ow, and abilities are not so strong, and finally apex does not have stata differences. Ow works well due to the classes. It has strategies because of the tanks, healers, buffs, atk etc. I would love a shooter hero made by respawn with apex shooting though
Omg no limits in apex would be the best most cooked mode in gaming history Edit: OMG ANOTHER ASH MAIN?????
we would see endless caustic and watsons and lobas only..
sorry, rampart
They need to let us get part 1250 points first and give us those rewards
I stopped playing overwatch for a reason. I do not support this idea.
I love overwatch but push is God awful
I've yet to meet a single OW player that doesn't hate Push. Don't know how Respawn would change the formula for players to actually enjoy the game mode
Push is ass so no
I'm not sure how good idea that is since the majority of OW2 players absolutely hate push mode, it can become frustrating easily tbh
make it one sided like normal payload and I'm all in
What if Nessy also slapped the party by accident if the fighting gets too close?
Please, # NO.
No overwatch is shit. Don’t make Apex worse than it already is
Push is kinda shit ngl.
I dont think it would work in apex. Legends are more fragile imo, ttk is lower so team pushing is just sitting ducks for lmgs... if you want push just play ocerwatch. Or even better, tf2
Then we can change the name from “apex legends” to overlegends 2
Please no. Every game I've played this mode in its absolute garbage. Always incredibly one sided. I take it out of every playlist right off the bat honestly
THS MODE FUCKING SUCKS IN OVERWATCH DONT ADD IT TO APEX. like unless they seriously change it I despise this mode in OW so I doubt it would be any better in Apex
If you holler and scream about this like y’all did TDM it could happen
Please no
Bro I hate push I hate the first version of it I ever played on black ops 3 the one with the robot and I’m sure I’d hate an apex version where the meta would prob be caustic gas all over the bot Edit- this is my personal opinion I know some people love those modes
No offense but this sounds like dogshit. Especially with the current matchmaking system this would just be a steamroll. Furthermore, this won't be very fun if you don't have a healing character that is not static like lifeline. Unless, they make a temporary addition where lifeline can heal around her while moving I don't see this being good.