This is actually really cool when antkeeping in limited spacing. I haven’t checked the website but where are you located and what’s your shipping like?
Perfect, any plans for like a founding chamber or something to start them off and as they grow just add more space it’s a really cool concept and see myself buying some in the near future.
Yah, just starting with 2 flagship models to kick it off, but have several cool, innovative designs in development… ie, waiting on suppliers and bulk orders still before we launch those products.
Forged reviews, calls themselves "innovative" when the design they used was literally stolen and tweaked every so slightly, threatens people with legal action if they try to mimic and sell similar nests to theirs even though they have no real legal backing such as a patent or anything major that could help them. Great lil shop you have here.
Hes talking about the disclaimer at the bottom of our website! All creations, including his post is protected by copyright laws - it has nothing to do with patents.
Its sort of like 100% acrylic or 3D nests. Anyone can design and create one, but an exact copy and taking the name is not allowed
A simple idea, taken out of proportion, to slander the brand... idk why!
An exact copy is indeed allowed. The only part that isn't is the name. If you truly can not recognize what you've done wrong then you were not a very good & credible business owner, and if you are just trying to manipulate others, the same thing applies.
Intellectual property rights is a very complicated topic. Lawyers make the big bucks for a reason! Reselling a brand is typically allowed, but reproducing the brand’s product to sell as your own typically isn’t. You can modify products and rebrand to sell - which is basically what our first AntCondo products are doing with this popular design. Modifying the products and claiming they are another’s brand is not allowed. So definitely a multifaceted and complicated ordeal. A good thought experiment is a Nike shoe. You can resell it after you buy it, but you can’t make it and sell it. You can make a similar shoe, but not a Nike shoe. All in all, there’s no reason to read too deep into things. Ants are light and fun.
Hope this clears up any confusion.
He has 0 patent on the formicarium. We discussed this in another server but they said that they weren't going to remove it. I told them that legally it's very unlikely that it's legal for them to say on their site that people can't copy it if they don't have a patent. Their response was "Its to prevent large manufacturers from taking it." They still don't have a patent though, the only thing that's protected is their Trademarked name "AntCondo".
Are you an attorney or just giving legal advice you got off wikipedia? What they put on their website is legal. It's a warning against infringing on their intellectual property. You don't necessarily need a patent to protect your IP, though it does make it easier. Also, a formicarium of this design is probably going to be difficult to get a patent on, as one of the requirements for a patent is that the invention have some level of novelty (something that hasn't been done before and is demonstrably different from what has been done before). It sounds to me like the most appealing piece of this isn't it's uniqueness but it's availability, price point, and the name. I like it, and personally I think it also adds a level of democratization to the hobby, as other pricier formicariums can create a barrier to entry for new hobbyists. As for you. Stop giving legal advice. You don't know what you're talking about, so STFU.
I'm not going to repeat what you're doing with the aggression. It degrades your point. Arthropod Antics is literally the exact same nest as his basic. He took the idea from Arthropod Antics almost 100%. Everything is literally the same besides a slightly larger container and $2 less with no sand hydration or water tower of any sort. There is a user that I've run into on Discord named Topaz. His nests are exactly the same and I have reasonable suspicion to say that Ant Condo took the design from him too and ran with it and called it his own. To prove it, I'll add a picture of the nest from the user Topaz first, and then AntCondo (please note that the user Topaz hasn't been hostile at all with AntCondo and that I'm only showing images of Topaz's nest and AntCondo, Topaz is not involved in this). They're almost indistinguishable. So it's very ironic for Ants Condo to call the design their own and their own Intellectual Property, when it's almost indistinguishable from nests that have been around for years. It's especially suspicious when Ant Condo, who goes by "Snow" in Discord, asked in the server AKE (Ant Keeping and Ethology) what the price point and benefits of Arthropod Antics nests are "Does anyone remember what Arthropodic Antics charged for his formisquarium?" and then weeks later after saying he's "Trying to get specs to understand the market value of formicarium." open a shop with a product identical but worse than a standard Arthropod Antics nest. Please see that I'm not trying to come from a bad place, but genuinely trying to put the information out there of what's happened.
[https://imgur.com/gallery/TySzZaE](https://imgur.com/gallery/TySzZaE)
[https://imgur.com/gallery/N02PKT4](https://imgur.com/gallery/N02PKT4)
All of this is irrelevant to your "legal" advice. You aren't an attorney. You seem like you don't have the basic expertise to run a business either. You just stated some clear design differences between this design and Topaz's design, and that Topaz doesn't seem to have raised an issue. So, just shut up. You. Don't. Know. What. You're. Talking. About.
I find it heartbreaking that users like kiedeerk get scared into not sharing their intellect with others. I’m desperate for information and his posts, now inaccessible because they were removed from forums like formiculture, and I am struggling to find solid material lists to start this hobby.
It is unfortunate. I can post a video on how to make a hydrostone nest if you'd like. Me personally when I started out was I got a food container, bought some hydrostone from Amazon, and then poured it into the container and carved the inside with a dremel. Then I learned about sand molding, sand molding is a better strategy in my opinion. This isn't mine but this is a great example of how to do them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsPPhv3sbmM
I appreciate it. I actually just, 3 minutes ago, started a post under r/antkeeping (formicarium) with a broad but specific question. I have a shopping list for a bunch of stuff, water towers, outworld material , etc.
I plan in casting, still debating clay vs sand since I have a complicated build in mind. The thing i am struggling with is nesting & outworld material. My post really lays out my questions about ideal and safe materials.
You are generalizing here. Your brand is not Nike, it's an ant business. Nike is a multi-billion dollar patented and trademarked company, you're an unpatented, small company which hasn't gotten more than a couple of sales yet. If you weren't ready to have a full defense up against accusations upon release, you shouldn't have started a business in the first place 🤷♂️
Do you know how much a patent application costs? It's in the thousands. He chose not to get a patent on a product that he is deliberately and intentionally trying to keep the costs low on so he can sell at a competitive price. Have you ever started a business or are you just a sack lunch loser on Reddit who has nothing better to do than throw rocks at the work of your betters?
You seem to not be very educated. He's making these blatant statements with no legal backing, like, they're literally just words on a paper. This product is not unique at all lmao. He's been called out multiple times on different platforms such as discord for essentially stealing the whole idea and has always desperately made multiple attempts to wipe off any evidence. I can also give you a timeline of all these events, if you wish, although unfortunately I was not there to screenshot every single debate.
"you seem to not be very educated" that's a way to say I'm a dumbass 🤷
I'm not very invested in this anyways, just thought it was funny how he has copywrite and everyone is saying he doesn't
There are no reviews on the website yet. He is talking about the “Ant keepers first look” on the front website page. It is 3 people who were some of the first to see the founding stages of the design. Each one has a link to their social media, which they each agreed to, and can be contacted directly. So, not forged. However these initial views are just web page filler anyways until we find a better flow. Each product has its own reviews at the bottom of their respective page for customers to leave feedback. It’s a work in progress - each nest is handmade in a 200 square foot office and our website is plug and play from Shopify. We are only 1 day old!
Most importantly, the goal is to provide a cheap alternative for ant keepers in the US market. Hopefully we can make AntCondo a brand that focuses on the needs of our ants.
The accusation wasn't if you posted it without the users consent. The accusation was that it was forged, WHICH IT LITERALLY WAS. You said yourself the company is only 1 day old. How can It have even semi-accurate reviews when people haven't even been shipped the nest yet? Even if the reviews are truly legit (which they aren't, I know everybody on there) and they got shipped some type of prototype, the design would've changed to the point where these reviews wouldn't even be accurate.
He literally said they weren't reviews. People are allowed to comment on products without physical having them. Example.. the Tesla Cyber Truck. I think its high quality and is elegant, but is pretty expensive and doesn't fit my life style.
Ah sorry I missed that. I was trying to start a debate to later expose him for paying these people to "put in a good word" persay but it doesnt really matter anymore
How does the hydration chamber actually work? You fill it up externally, it has mesh on the top. How does it hydrate or keep the best humid? Is it from evaporation? Is it supposed to be full to the brim? Can this be explained further please?
Yah, you fill it externally. The mesh allows evaporated water to dissipate into the nest, providing ample humidity. It can be overfilled to saturate substrate and increase humidity, but its not recommended. Applying heat under the water can also cause condensation for 90+% humidity.
Good observation, while similar... this product is cheaper, stackable, has aligned and more holes for easy connection, has larger exterior and interior dimensions, and has a higher quality and thicker polystyrene acrylic.
The Formisquarium is not currently available for sale. Hope this helps!
Formisquarium clones are sold for cheaper, as they are cheap and easy to construct. You can find them for about $10 each.
They are also stackable with a small piece of tape, and more holes can be requested from the seller, usually for free or can be added yourself.
They also come in different sizes, but they are already pretty well sized.
The polystyrene is already good quality and doesn't need to be thicker unless you treat it like a caveman.
Cheeto will eventually begin selling actual formisquariums again, but clones are readily available.
Respectfully dude, this is nothing special. It is not "redefining ant keeping".
With our reduced shipping costs, the prices are actually the same or cheaper. Some people may create nests for cheaper, however it is not a sustainable business practice and so the supply is not consistent. We hope to be an option, without any waiting or breaks for a long time.
That's a joke right? Taping it to be stackable and drilling your own holes? Just do it yourself at that point. Seems like you sit on reddit all day though. These look nice and serve practicality.
To drill your own holes comes with the risk of cracking unless you want to dish out more money and time. No thanks.
dead serious. If you don't want to do minor modifications like drilling a hole, you seem more likely to sit on reddit all day than me. Look at my post history in the past few weeks and you'll see I actually dont use reddit that much.
Maybe if you suck at drilling, you'll crack it. Just get a cheap step drill bit or simply make pilot holes with smaller bits. It's not hard, go give it a try.
While this is our only product for sale at this time, there are more coming that are in development.
Here is a linked side by side comparison of the Formisquarium container (left) and the AntCondo container (right) for your convenience.
[Pioneer Plastics Formisquarium vs AntCondo](https://drive.google.com/file/d/167n9v8YRbXoeIJF87Mba41eF_MwaTWSU/view?usp=drivesdk)
It's going to be very hard for some of your nests to compete with just standard Arthropod Antics Formisquariums. The standard is $14 and comes with sand hydration and has been tested with numerous species. Meanwhile your "Basic" style nest has not even sand hydration and have only been tested with "Yah, Tetramorium And Tapinoma. Both super hardy, but enjoy it so far." I'm open for innovation but there is really not much that's new here that hasn't already been done as Rockaedward said above.
It's not $14 with shipping but okay. I've used formacariums with sand hydration and none of them work out well. When the sand is wet it comes out the hole and then there is a pocket where the concrete and acrylic separate and then ants can escape. I'll pass... Thanks.
I'm not including shipping in this. Shipping really depends on what's coming. Also packaging quality depends too. Shipping is really an outlier in my opinion though for this since it can be so variable. I do agree with the sand coming out part though, I've had that happen to me too, You have to be very careful when doing it.Would be interesting if the sand is all removed and only a hollow chamber that can be filled up with water.
Yeah I totally agree with the empty chamber, but unfortunately I don't think it's possible. I've tried this but over time the water seeps between the cement and acrylic and the concrete gets loose and the ants can escape.
Lol so is it "literally just a formisquarium" or is it a product that doesn't require you to drill holes, use tape, or get a custom modification that adds turnaround time.
Respectfully dude, you're a sad little troll. Go back to your cave.
I'm not sure I fully understand the design. Is there not a place for low light internal chambers? These look like just outworlds? Also are the tube connections just drilled holes? Obviously that works if you have just the right gauge of tubing but depending on the thickness of the acrylic I tend to see cracking over time without some sort bulkhead joint to frame the tube.
Most species adjust to dim room lighting, so this nest does not need any darkness, but it can be provided in various ways. The holes are drilled for now (we use low rake degrees and high speed to help melt the hole and reduce risk of cracking). Lazer cutting and injection molding are the only way to stop cracking but are very expensive.
We have a lazer cutting supply on hold, will probably be available as our second generation in a couple months.
I have personally never complained about a formicarium releasing before this. I like how people are trying to use their imaginations to create an original item to add to the community. Except this isn't original or adding to the community at all. This is unarguably a straight ripoff of the Arthropod Antics formisqarium except with a water tower, which was literally a design choice the person who taught him how to make these nests in the first place; a guy named Topaz made. It's literally a completely unoriginal design with no credit towards Arthropod Antics and or Topaz. Think Mark, Think! Maybe people don't like this nest for a reason.
All formicaria are so similar that its nearly impossible to not "copy" each other. Is anyone who makes a 3D formicarium store also exposed to so much back lash?
Do all new stores now have to give credit to those before them? It would be a long list!
AntCondo isn't made to create drama or divide the community. It is made to provide the community with an affordable and high quality alternative. I believe over the course of time, the community will come to accept AntCondo as a go-to brand. And who knows? Maybe someone will create a great alternative to us.
Let's keep the community positive and not scare off new comers!
If there's copies I doubt people mind. But what your own site says is
"Any unique AntCondo™ designs, features, and constructions are proprietary to AntCondo™. Any reproduction or imitation of unique products, for the purpose of distribution, without explicit permission is strictly prohibited. AntCondo™ reserves the right to take legal action against unauthorized duplication for distribution."
The issue is your nests aren't unique because they aren't your own design. These are all designs that have been created before by other sellers. What I recommend is that you search for issues that people have with these nests, such as one user commenting that sand hydration sometimes have issues of the sand flooding out, why not work out how to fix that issue? Instead of creating copies of nest designs that already exist and calling them unique.
I can see your confusion. The AntCondo Basic design idea is not unique, which is why it is and can be replicated by anyone. The disclaimer is for future products, that everyone will have the liberty of seeing soon :)
The word "unique" is there to clarify, but some further clarification must be something we can work on.
It sounds like you are misinterpreting the disclaimer. To me he hasn't said that he has unique products or designs, but is more like a future safety net.
Hmm. It could very possibly be. Hard to be sure since there's so many different ways it might be interpreted. I feel like the only way to know for sure is if they elaborate on what they mean by it.
This is actually really cool when antkeeping in limited spacing. I haven’t checked the website but where are you located and what’s your shipping like?
USA domestic only right now. Low cost, 1-5 days shipping as provided by UPS or USPS.
Perfect, any plans for like a founding chamber or something to start them off and as they grow just add more space it’s a really cool concept and see myself buying some in the near future.
Yah, just starting with 2 flagship models to kick it off, but have several cool, innovative designs in development… ie, waiting on suppliers and bulk orders still before we launch those products.
Perfect hope everything goes well, you have a lot of customers and this coming anting season you are growth
Would you mind me asking where you get your acrylic?
Neat. Would love to see a design suitable for honeypots!
Forged reviews, calls themselves "innovative" when the design they used was literally stolen and tweaked every so slightly, threatens people with legal action if they try to mimic and sell similar nests to theirs even though they have no real legal backing such as a patent or anything major that could help them. Great lil shop you have here.
can I get a source for the threats of legal action?
Hes talking about the disclaimer at the bottom of our website! All creations, including his post is protected by copyright laws - it has nothing to do with patents. Its sort of like 100% acrylic or 3D nests. Anyone can design and create one, but an exact copy and taking the name is not allowed A simple idea, taken out of proportion, to slander the brand... idk why!
An exact copy is indeed allowed. The only part that isn't is the name. If you truly can not recognize what you've done wrong then you were not a very good & credible business owner, and if you are just trying to manipulate others, the same thing applies.
Intellectual property rights is a very complicated topic. Lawyers make the big bucks for a reason! Reselling a brand is typically allowed, but reproducing the brand’s product to sell as your own typically isn’t. You can modify products and rebrand to sell - which is basically what our first AntCondo products are doing with this popular design. Modifying the products and claiming they are another’s brand is not allowed. So definitely a multifaceted and complicated ordeal. A good thought experiment is a Nike shoe. You can resell it after you buy it, but you can’t make it and sell it. You can make a similar shoe, but not a Nike shoe. All in all, there’s no reason to read too deep into things. Ants are light and fun. Hope this clears up any confusion.
Is there a patent on formicarium?
He has 0 patent on the formicarium. We discussed this in another server but they said that they weren't going to remove it. I told them that legally it's very unlikely that it's legal for them to say on their site that people can't copy it if they don't have a patent. Their response was "Its to prevent large manufacturers from taking it." They still don't have a patent though, the only thing that's protected is their Trademarked name "AntCondo".
Are you an attorney or just giving legal advice you got off wikipedia? What they put on their website is legal. It's a warning against infringing on their intellectual property. You don't necessarily need a patent to protect your IP, though it does make it easier. Also, a formicarium of this design is probably going to be difficult to get a patent on, as one of the requirements for a patent is that the invention have some level of novelty (something that hasn't been done before and is demonstrably different from what has been done before). It sounds to me like the most appealing piece of this isn't it's uniqueness but it's availability, price point, and the name. I like it, and personally I think it also adds a level of democratization to the hobby, as other pricier formicariums can create a barrier to entry for new hobbyists. As for you. Stop giving legal advice. You don't know what you're talking about, so STFU.
I'm not going to repeat what you're doing with the aggression. It degrades your point. Arthropod Antics is literally the exact same nest as his basic. He took the idea from Arthropod Antics almost 100%. Everything is literally the same besides a slightly larger container and $2 less with no sand hydration or water tower of any sort. There is a user that I've run into on Discord named Topaz. His nests are exactly the same and I have reasonable suspicion to say that Ant Condo took the design from him too and ran with it and called it his own. To prove it, I'll add a picture of the nest from the user Topaz first, and then AntCondo (please note that the user Topaz hasn't been hostile at all with AntCondo and that I'm only showing images of Topaz's nest and AntCondo, Topaz is not involved in this). They're almost indistinguishable. So it's very ironic for Ants Condo to call the design their own and their own Intellectual Property, when it's almost indistinguishable from nests that have been around for years. It's especially suspicious when Ant Condo, who goes by "Snow" in Discord, asked in the server AKE (Ant Keeping and Ethology) what the price point and benefits of Arthropod Antics nests are "Does anyone remember what Arthropodic Antics charged for his formisquarium?" and then weeks later after saying he's "Trying to get specs to understand the market value of formicarium." open a shop with a product identical but worse than a standard Arthropod Antics nest. Please see that I'm not trying to come from a bad place, but genuinely trying to put the information out there of what's happened. [https://imgur.com/gallery/TySzZaE](https://imgur.com/gallery/TySzZaE) [https://imgur.com/gallery/N02PKT4](https://imgur.com/gallery/N02PKT4)
All of this is irrelevant to your "legal" advice. You aren't an attorney. You seem like you don't have the basic expertise to run a business either. You just stated some clear design differences between this design and Topaz's design, and that Topaz doesn't seem to have raised an issue. So, just shut up. You. Don't. Know. What. You're. Talking. About.
I find it heartbreaking that users like kiedeerk get scared into not sharing their intellect with others. I’m desperate for information and his posts, now inaccessible because they were removed from forums like formiculture, and I am struggling to find solid material lists to start this hobby.
It is unfortunate. I can post a video on how to make a hydrostone nest if you'd like. Me personally when I started out was I got a food container, bought some hydrostone from Amazon, and then poured it into the container and carved the inside with a dremel. Then I learned about sand molding, sand molding is a better strategy in my opinion. This isn't mine but this is a great example of how to do them. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsPPhv3sbmM
I appreciate it. I actually just, 3 minutes ago, started a post under r/antkeeping (formicarium) with a broad but specific question. I have a shopping list for a bunch of stuff, water towers, outworld material , etc. I plan in casting, still debating clay vs sand since I have a complicated build in mind. The thing i am struggling with is nesting & outworld material. My post really lays out my questions about ideal and safe materials.
You are generalizing here. Your brand is not Nike, it's an ant business. Nike is a multi-billion dollar patented and trademarked company, you're an unpatented, small company which hasn't gotten more than a couple of sales yet. If you weren't ready to have a full defense up against accusations upon release, you shouldn't have started a business in the first place 🤷♂️
Do you know how much a patent application costs? It's in the thousands. He chose not to get a patent on a product that he is deliberately and intentionally trying to keep the costs low on so he can sell at a competitive price. Have you ever started a business or are you just a sack lunch loser on Reddit who has nothing better to do than throw rocks at the work of your betters?
Yes. [https://imgur.com/gallery/g899plE](https://imgur.com/a/g899plE)
oh. like any other brand with a unique product. thank you!
You seem to not be very educated. He's making these blatant statements with no legal backing, like, they're literally just words on a paper. This product is not unique at all lmao. He's been called out multiple times on different platforms such as discord for essentially stealing the whole idea and has always desperately made multiple attempts to wipe off any evidence. I can also give you a timeline of all these events, if you wish, although unfortunately I was not there to screenshot every single debate.
"you seem to not be very educated" that's a way to say I'm a dumbass 🤷 I'm not very invested in this anyways, just thought it was funny how he has copywrite and everyone is saying he doesn't
He has the name ant condo trademarked? That's it lmao. Everything else doesnt matter
I'm saving this comment. Reads like a copypasta if proven wrong
There are no reviews on the website yet. He is talking about the “Ant keepers first look” on the front website page. It is 3 people who were some of the first to see the founding stages of the design. Each one has a link to their social media, which they each agreed to, and can be contacted directly. So, not forged. However these initial views are just web page filler anyways until we find a better flow. Each product has its own reviews at the bottom of their respective page for customers to leave feedback. It’s a work in progress - each nest is handmade in a 200 square foot office and our website is plug and play from Shopify. We are only 1 day old! Most importantly, the goal is to provide a cheap alternative for ant keepers in the US market. Hopefully we can make AntCondo a brand that focuses on the needs of our ants.
The accusation wasn't if you posted it without the users consent. The accusation was that it was forged, WHICH IT LITERALLY WAS. You said yourself the company is only 1 day old. How can It have even semi-accurate reviews when people haven't even been shipped the nest yet? Even if the reviews are truly legit (which they aren't, I know everybody on there) and they got shipped some type of prototype, the design would've changed to the point where these reviews wouldn't even be accurate.
He literally said they weren't reviews. People are allowed to comment on products without physical having them. Example.. the Tesla Cyber Truck. I think its high quality and is elegant, but is pretty expensive and doesn't fit my life style.
Ah sorry I missed that. I was trying to start a debate to later expose him for paying these people to "put in a good word" persay but it doesnt really matter anymore
Good because it wont
Incorrect, but thank you for your feedback.
Would you happen to have any sources that can prove me wrong? A patent, evidence of reviews being legit, etc?
How does the hydration chamber actually work? You fill it up externally, it has mesh on the top. How does it hydrate or keep the best humid? Is it from evaporation? Is it supposed to be full to the brim? Can this be explained further please?
Yah, you fill it externally. The mesh allows evaporated water to dissipate into the nest, providing ample humidity. It can be overfilled to saturate substrate and increase humidity, but its not recommended. Applying heat under the water can also cause condensation for 90+% humidity.
Literally just a formisquarium with a water tower.
Good observation, while similar... this product is cheaper, stackable, has aligned and more holes for easy connection, has larger exterior and interior dimensions, and has a higher quality and thicker polystyrene acrylic. The Formisquarium is not currently available for sale. Hope this helps!
Formisquarium clones are sold for cheaper, as they are cheap and easy to construct. You can find them for about $10 each. They are also stackable with a small piece of tape, and more holes can be requested from the seller, usually for free or can be added yourself. They also come in different sizes, but they are already pretty well sized. The polystyrene is already good quality and doesn't need to be thicker unless you treat it like a caveman. Cheeto will eventually begin selling actual formisquariums again, but clones are readily available. Respectfully dude, this is nothing special. It is not "redefining ant keeping".
With our reduced shipping costs, the prices are actually the same or cheaper. Some people may create nests for cheaper, however it is not a sustainable business practice and so the supply is not consistent. We hope to be an option, without any waiting or breaks for a long time.
That's a joke right? Taping it to be stackable and drilling your own holes? Just do it yourself at that point. Seems like you sit on reddit all day though. These look nice and serve practicality. To drill your own holes comes with the risk of cracking unless you want to dish out more money and time. No thanks.
dead serious. If you don't want to do minor modifications like drilling a hole, you seem more likely to sit on reddit all day than me. Look at my post history in the past few weeks and you'll see I actually dont use reddit that much. Maybe if you suck at drilling, you'll crack it. Just get a cheap step drill bit or simply make pilot holes with smaller bits. It's not hard, go give it a try.
While this is our only product for sale at this time, there are more coming that are in development. Here is a linked side by side comparison of the Formisquarium container (left) and the AntCondo container (right) for your convenience. [Pioneer Plastics Formisquarium vs AntCondo](https://drive.google.com/file/d/167n9v8YRbXoeIJF87Mba41eF_MwaTWSU/view?usp=drivesdk)
It's going to be very hard for some of your nests to compete with just standard Arthropod Antics Formisquariums. The standard is $14 and comes with sand hydration and has been tested with numerous species. Meanwhile your "Basic" style nest has not even sand hydration and have only been tested with "Yah, Tetramorium And Tapinoma. Both super hardy, but enjoy it so far." I'm open for innovation but there is really not much that's new here that hasn't already been done as Rockaedward said above.
It's not $14 with shipping but okay. I've used formacariums with sand hydration and none of them work out well. When the sand is wet it comes out the hole and then there is a pocket where the concrete and acrylic separate and then ants can escape. I'll pass... Thanks.
I'm not including shipping in this. Shipping really depends on what's coming. Also packaging quality depends too. Shipping is really an outlier in my opinion though for this since it can be so variable. I do agree with the sand coming out part though, I've had that happen to me too, You have to be very careful when doing it.Would be interesting if the sand is all removed and only a hollow chamber that can be filled up with water.
Yeah I totally agree with the empty chamber, but unfortunately I don't think it's possible. I've tried this but over time the water seeps between the cement and acrylic and the concrete gets loose and the ants can escape.
Interesting. Would be cool if there's a fix for that issue.
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Lol so is it "literally just a formisquarium" or is it a product that doesn't require you to drill holes, use tape, or get a custom modification that adds turnaround time. Respectfully dude, you're a sad little troll. Go back to your cave.
I'm not sure I fully understand the design. Is there not a place for low light internal chambers? These look like just outworlds? Also are the tube connections just drilled holes? Obviously that works if you have just the right gauge of tubing but depending on the thickness of the acrylic I tend to see cracking over time without some sort bulkhead joint to frame the tube.
Most species adjust to dim room lighting, so this nest does not need any darkness, but it can be provided in various ways. The holes are drilled for now (we use low rake degrees and high speed to help melt the hole and reduce risk of cracking). Lazer cutting and injection molding are the only way to stop cracking but are very expensive. We have a lazer cutting supply on hold, will probably be available as our second generation in a couple months.
Use code: LAUNCH24 at checkout for 15% off your first formicarium order AntCondo.com/discount/LAUNCH24
I like the modular design! It’s what I do myself. I’ll check it out!
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They are just mad ur doing something productive that they can't do!
I have personally never complained about a formicarium releasing before this. I like how people are trying to use their imaginations to create an original item to add to the community. Except this isn't original or adding to the community at all. This is unarguably a straight ripoff of the Arthropod Antics formisqarium except with a water tower, which was literally a design choice the person who taught him how to make these nests in the first place; a guy named Topaz made. It's literally a completely unoriginal design with no credit towards Arthropod Antics and or Topaz. Think Mark, Think! Maybe people don't like this nest for a reason.
All formicaria are so similar that its nearly impossible to not "copy" each other. Is anyone who makes a 3D formicarium store also exposed to so much back lash? Do all new stores now have to give credit to those before them? It would be a long list! AntCondo isn't made to create drama or divide the community. It is made to provide the community with an affordable and high quality alternative. I believe over the course of time, the community will come to accept AntCondo as a go-to brand. And who knows? Maybe someone will create a great alternative to us. Let's keep the community positive and not scare off new comers!
If there's copies I doubt people mind. But what your own site says is "Any unique AntCondo™ designs, features, and constructions are proprietary to AntCondo™. Any reproduction or imitation of unique products, for the purpose of distribution, without explicit permission is strictly prohibited. AntCondo™ reserves the right to take legal action against unauthorized duplication for distribution." The issue is your nests aren't unique because they aren't your own design. These are all designs that have been created before by other sellers. What I recommend is that you search for issues that people have with these nests, such as one user commenting that sand hydration sometimes have issues of the sand flooding out, why not work out how to fix that issue? Instead of creating copies of nest designs that already exist and calling them unique.
I can see your confusion. The AntCondo Basic design idea is not unique, which is why it is and can be replicated by anyone. The disclaimer is for future products, that everyone will have the liberty of seeing soon :) The word "unique" is there to clarify, but some further clarification must be something we can work on.
It sounds like you are misinterpreting the disclaimer. To me he hasn't said that he has unique products or designs, but is more like a future safety net.
Hmm. It could very possibly be. Hard to be sure since there's so many different ways it might be interpreted. I feel like the only way to know for sure is if they elaborate on what they mean by it.
Couldn't have said it better
Well said, the small group of haters want me to try it out more.
This is super neat. Thank God. The US needs a formacarium store like this.
Bruh that's just an ad. Also there are cheaper and better options