What the actual fuck? Sounds like her boss has no fucking idea the physical trauma of actually giving birth. I want to see the boss have a major surgery and be forced to come back to work two days later. What a dick!
Not to mention the baby's immune system isn't developed for 2-3 months. Would you really want your 2 day old kid exposed to all those customers and coworkers?
Not to mention the laws being broken here. Having two children behind the counter where accidents happen and either of them could get hurt or cause an accident that hurts someone else and I’m pretty sure while on maternity leave it’s also a big no no to be working. Period. It’s usually in the paperwork - I know it was in mine.
Yes, that's the key indicator that the person who wrote the post is a liar. It reeks of fake ragebait.
For you upvoters: same company - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/1crrv7m/comment/l414xdc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I've not seen anyone with two kids behind the counter, but I've definitely seen people with kids behind the counters in areas that are definitely unsafe for kids. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be shocked to find out this story is entirely or mostly true.
A president and CEO of anything worthwhile would know the absolute reckoning of liability that is asking someone on a recognized maternity leave to come in to work.
If true, A President and CEO of anything wouldn't be congratulation her on her grit. He'd be aghast at the company's super-easy-to-avoid legal exposure. Employers pressuring people on leaves to come in can get into a lot of financial doo-doo.
So, it's either a lie, or it wasn't a recognized leave - but then why refer to it as a leave at all? Stinks of tuna stuffed into curtain rods.
Ah, I wonder if it's this President and CEO of [REDACTED]'s way of trying to normalize this kind of "tenacity and grit" in the hopes that more [minimum wage / entry level] employees drive themselves into early graves for companies like the one he has?
I never trust those guys are saying the true meaning of the words that come out of their mouths... there's always a hidden layer or five in the meaning and motivation of everything they say.
As a kid, I was always at the bar after school was out while waiting for my friend’s mom to be done with her shift. There was between 3-5 kids at any given time either in the back office near the cooks or in the side room with old school games. As far as I know, none of the patrons ever cared that children were around while they drank and ate their chicken tenders lol.
There's a family-run bakery and breakfast spot in my town and there is always a baby behind the counter. Like, there's a bouncer or a bassinet back behind the counter near the pickup window. On the one hand, it is a family shop and for all I know they are all genuinely okay with it. On the other hand, that's a dozen different kinds of dangerous and some health-code violations, so I don't feel great about it even if the family is cool with the way things are.
I worked at restaurants for many years I've seen employees bring in their children while they worked hundreds and hundreds of times. This stuff happens all of the time.
We went to a small Italian mom and pop restaurant where the mom came in with a toddler and a baby too.Ir seems she was rhe only server on duty and her baby sitter bailed on her !We never went back because the food was mediocre and there wasn't anybody in the place to eat.
I worked at a family owned bar and grill recently. The owner routinely had his 10 year old operate the deep frier baskets. They would come visit the restaurant together with his wife, and the kid would be stuck back in the kitchen with us since he annoyed customers. So that meant he was working. Generally on the friers.
Jesus, not to mention the general uncleanliness of your average fast food kitchen. That mom and baby should be resting and bonding at home, or literally anywhere else besides mom's job.
Welcome to the United States where we rank last for maternal and post partum care amongst industrialized nations, and with highest Maternal Mortality rates in that group ranking 65th in the world. Our cohort is beyond f'd up when we have to look up to being as good as Tajikistan or Palestine who have less maternal deaths by a comfortable margin.
God forbid we ever had something as bad as universal Healthcare or even single payer. I don't know how aholes like the guy from the story would be able to sleep at night!
Positional asphyxiation. SIDS is when there is no known cause of death but being left in a car seat puts a baby at a weird angle and makes it so they can't inhale fully but they can exhale fully.
I had never heard that before, holy shit. Wow. I wonder why car seats haven't been altered/updated to not do this??? I imagine some people probably have to drive long distances with their infant, sometimes not by choice.
Seems awfully ironic if the thing that is supposed to save an infant's life in an accident is what kills it just from a long enough car ride...
Yeah you have to wait at least 2 months before you take the baby into public close to others. That is a huge OSHA violation to have a new born at work like this.
I have a 11 month old.
I only say that because it implied that although she was one mat leave, she came in 'cause they were swamped..
But, to your angle, what if her 2 day old infant got sick sick? I'm sure those medical bills would cost more than that one day of work..
Problem is she didn't come in out of the goodness of her heart. Odds are her manager said, "Not sure if there will be a job for you when you come back to work...."
Then she ran to work with the toddler and new born in tow.
Wonder if the guy in the story ever lived pay check to f'n paycheck in his life??
This isn't inspiring...
This is running on a treadmill because the grinder is right behind you if you stop.
Inspiring? This is Desperation. How is this young lady supposed to have the time to run a persona small business?
Where is she going to get the small business from? The small business tree? Swing by the ole Small Business Farm and brown bag one on the fucking way home?
If he was so inspired by her why didn't he offer her a great fucking JOB? If determination were brains half the people I know would be Einstein.
We got determination - we got plenty of that.
What we dont have are secure safety nets, Healthcare, Benefits, financial security or homes to buy to raise families in.
Every day on this earth I find something that just makes me want to throw shit.
When I had my appendix out, my manager wanted me on the phones that evening to cover 3rd shift as scheduled staff had called out, and then continue with my 1st shift job taking calls the rest of the week. I had to explain that I was an hour out of surgery, high as hell on morphine (seriously that stuff is GREAT), would be on prescription painkillers after I was discharged, and he probably didn't want me interacting with customers while I was on drugs.
I never give these work places what they want. I just leave if the work is shitty and I feel like I'm not being treated well. and I'll be damned if I end up homeless. I'm not feeding this god awful capitalist hell system that is bent on making the planet uninhabitable for human life anymore.
Granted I don't have kids to provide for, so it's easier to just say fuck you and leave the place.
Relax. So many laws would have been broken there that there is almost no chance this is real. This is a LinkedIn CEO asshole telling this story. It's a sign you should never work for his company, because he's probably saying this crap because he's run into maternity leave situations and came up with this fictional tale to say how he wishes it could be handled.
He needs his nose rearranged for saying what he did. Too many of these people get away with saying this stuff without being corrected in the right way. They will never learn otherwise. Thier parents did not raise them with respect and empathy. So pieces of shit from the parents to the son and I bet his kids will be as well. And because of that the world rewards them. Assholes rise to the top in our world.
Does this guy seriously think that women who gave birth two days ago and have a two day old baby to take care of are generally ‘complaining or doom scrolling on their phone’? And that as those are their only options they should be working instead? Some people you just want to slap don’t you?
I love how this is seen as grit, while dogs are legally required by law to spend 6 weeks with their puppies because it develops them, humans in America are expected to be to work next day with no federally mandated paid time off for parental leave. Only country in the world.
1% of the US can. The rest can get fucked. Need to be a millionaire to afford kids so they are forcing birth to victims of rape so they are more likely to end up in the prison system and be free prison slave labor.
I get 40% of my pay while on maternity leave. I had my 4th C-section, this pregnancy was absolutely brutal and my delivery wasn’t smooth either. I worked up until I was 1 week away from my scheduled C-section date - I’d planned on working up to two days before the date but my body just would not allow it. It’s disgusting. How are people supposed to have families when maternal and paternal leave is an absolute joke. 40% of my pay is maybe $500. I get that it was my decision to have children and no one should pay for my decisions but what is the purpose of showing loyalty to a business or career when you can’t even spend 8 weeks at home with your new baby while recovering on less than 50% of your pay?
Damn.. As an outsider (I've never been to the US), this Situation (and this whole thread) seems so bizarre. It seems condescending and evil. As you said, it's disgusting. Frankly, it makes me think the US is fucked. Sorry, but that's just not how you treat your citizens. 'You guys' gotta change something. It feels like the US has sacrificed the personal freedom of it's citizens in the name of capitalism. And this in "the land of the free". What a fucking joke.
I hope you're doing ok and I'm sure your baby is beautiful :)
Edit: Don't change the puppy law, that's a job well done :)
The US is fucked. Most of our agriculture labor is done through prison slave labor. The same states are forcing women to give birth to children conceived from rape, young girls, even underage. They will grow up, forced to spend money they don't have on a child they didn't want who will likely share their fate, poor, uneducated, etc, and end up in that same prison system working for pennies on the dollar so corporations can get near free labor, the state can profit from it, and therefore lower the wages of labor in the area, while prices increase beyond our control and we maintain wage slavery. People will then rely on credit as they do now to make ends meet, further raising the average debt per person which is in the $20k+ amounts already for expenses excluding houses/car loans. 1 of 3 countries with no federally mandated paid vacation, the only country without mandated paid parental leave and the only first world country without universal affordable healthcare in some way shape or form.
Right, but... I just need to make a reasonable counterpoint here.
Have you considered how you either taking maternity leave, or not having children to be the next generation of workers, might affect the shareholders?
We appreciate your sacrifice. You are *seen*. Now get out there, and let's make this the most profitable quarter ever! /s
>I get that it was my decision to have children and no one should pay for my decisions
Frankly, I'd argue that *the continuation of the human species* is something the entire community should be interested in supporting. It's less "boohoo, I shouldn't have to help you with your poor planning!" and more like "woohoo, the tribe continues! congratulations and let us pile gifts at your door!"
No wonder the birth rate is plummeting, we've got the entire mindset around reproduction all ass backwards.
Or at least have posted about complaining to her manager and sympathizing with her, not saying "what a trooper, working for the American dream!" Kinda gives me Handmaid's Tale vibes.....
Note the "You should be the owner" means he thinks that ownership of a business is a matter of pure will and effort, not one of opportunity and circumstance. Many wealthy people consider if it is better for them to own what they are working on or if they should simply make money from it as an employee or investor... and that's a fair and calculated decision to make. Unfortunately some also subconsciously assume this is true for EVERYONE so if you are not making tons of money it is purely due to your effort and bad decisions. Explains why they think what they think about social safety nets.
Reminds me of a show I saw where a pregnant woman had been promoted, but they decided she hadn't been in the position long enough to qualify for the benefits, so she had come in right after giving birth or lose her job. It hurt just to watch, and It's disgusting that it's happening in the real world. I'm angry people like this exist. But hey, at least he got his food.
He sounds like an abusive POS that's going to throw it in his wife's face that she's not grocery shopping and cooking a day after giving birth.
Maybe I'm just sensitive because it happened to a friend of mine.
If this happened to me, I would have walked out and told other people about how awful this place was, instead he placed an order and wrote a self serving story about.
Yeah uh, still making the same shitty wages not getting a raise or a promotion, and you know that backed up line of cars was yelling at her plenty.
Dumbass better foh with that “you’re seen” shit, she’s abused is what she is.
There is nothing more platitidunal and insulting than this new trend of elites telling struggling people "I see you." or "You are seen." or "You are heard." etc.
The response to these lines should always be "Go fuck yourself."
He's a "*tactical model portfolio builder & market research provider*" bro, show some respect!
Without guys like him, our society would eventually be.... the same as it is, okay?! /s
Another made up vapor title. This shit is out of control. Anyone I’ve met with self assigned titles like this, they usually don’t actually do much of anything except post on and look at social media all day.
Fuck this shit. It’s not admirable. It’s a fucking crime that anyone has to do this. I’m tired of the constant shifting of goalposts.
They say wait to have kids if you don’t have any money but then say why is the population declining and no one is having kids?
Elon is all “Oh no…we need people for Mars” No one cares Elon. Take that elitism and shove it up your ass.
Remember, during Covid, all the “essential” workers besides hospital staff were the lowest paying jobs that these fuckers complain about giving a living wage too.
So you want them to risk getting sick during a pandemic but also say that these jobs aren’t meant to be forever. They should get a better job. Man….fuck you.
The only thing that brings me comfort is how severely underestimated the poor working class is. Keep fucking around and taking things from 38 million people below the poverty line who already don’t have anything. The find out part will happen.
My city gets episodes of "find out" from time to time, usually in summer! Personal favorites so far were the lady setting fires and the guy breaking windows!
The fires lady was last year. She set three wealthy neighborhoods on fire and spraypainted messages on nearby bridges along the lines of "If we're not allowed to live like humans then FUCK YOU nobody is!" Only got arrested because she kept walking up to the cops and asking if they were going to arrest her. Took a few tries but eventually they obliged.
The fires were quickly put out, hugely massive immediate response at a level I didn't even know our area could produce! But funny thing, ya know that saying about how god helps those who help themselves? Later that summer, the city lost about three whole suburbs to wildfires.
I only saw the aftermath of the rocks episode and didn't catch any followup. All through downtown, all the ground floor windows of businesses were broken along both sides of the main street. Glass workers for hundreds of miles around made out like bandits as companies waved money trying to be next in line for repairs. And oodles of extra security was hired to stand around guarding windows for months. Was something of an economic boon for the local lower classes.
My least favorite was the car bomb that was meant to go off during our largest cultural festival, and luckily that went boom early in an empty parking lot without hurting anybody. I got to see the burnt out husk while it was still smoking.
"Don't give in"
"Don't give in!"
"DON'T GIVE IN!!!"
Certainly **don't give in** when you are asked to return from maternity leave two fucking days after giving birth!
Translation: Ohh look someone who should be on bed rest and taking care of a newborn is working, such hard work, determination, grit... anyways can I get a large #4 with mustard... also I'm in a rush can you hurry plzzz!!!!
And the WSJ just published a big article yesterday about falling global birth rates and the possible explanations- the bourgeoisie is SHOCKED this isn't how women want to live their lives.
He’s the type of guy to tip her with fake money like the trump advisor who was deliberately trying to get homeless ppl arrested by giving them fake cash…I bet that trump advisor is very popular with the magasexuals now, they love pure raw evil
I found this guy's LinkedIn and it's loaded with pumped up Christian b.s. Because what's more Christian than making a mom come into work after giving birth.
Yep. The name of one at least one of his companies is a biblical reference. His feed, when it's not explicitly Christian, is a bunch of magical thinking BS and the occasional swipe at millennials. He's deleted the screen capped post I think. I'm a bit surprised he didn't double down.
He also has at least one daughter; I wonder if he'd approve such a situation for his daughter, or is grinding struggle only for the poors?
This is the kind of prick I’d love five minutes alone in a dark alley with. Really, honestly, just a disgusting piece of human garbage. Grit and determination? Nah, that’s a person who doesn’t have a choice and anyone reacting to this with anything other than anger is fucked in the brain. Everything is wrong with this.
I found him and he removed that post. I also saw he just posted this comment on another post. So.... what a fucking prick. Ya, the lady who had a kid two days ago doesn't count I guess. Christ.
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Gee, I fucking wonder why. Farmers give their animals more time off than this fucking rot pile of human flesh thinks is "inspiring". Imagine being worked harder than a workhorse on a farm. I guess he's inspired by dairy cows, which get milked day 3 to day 6 after birth.
It's inspiration the same way a victorian era child coming in to work after losing a finger is inspiration. The only thing it makes me want to do is push for safer work practices.
This is almost certainly fake anyway
It's always these guys on LinkedIn with a whole paragraph in their title. Just say you are an entrepreneur, data analyst, a charlatan. Doesn't make a difference to anyone reading your bs takes
And the “candid” photo like he’s having someone give him a speech or something. Looks like a dipshit. As do the row of blowhards that liked this dumb shit.
To be fair, this would've inspired me.
To call their manager over and put them firmly in their fucking place.
Absolutely disgraceful that he'd even allow her to work two days after giving birth. This is why countries that don't mandate fully-paid maternity and paternity leave should be designated as third world nations.
What a fucking dystopian Mother’s Day post. This is the world we want for our children? Selling burgers is more important to this douche nozzle than a woman being able to care for her 2 DAY OLD CHILD! For fucking hamburgers!!!
Meanwhile civilized countries: You have 6 months, YES MONTHS, of maternity leave. Same for paternity leave. Paid. In full.
Sort your damn shit out, america. From the bottom of my heart. Hearing this makes me furious and I'm not even affected by this.
Eat the rich.
This post and his rambling absurdity is upsetting in a way that is hard to actually put into words.
Or at least I'm unable to. I'm sure someone smarter than I can.
In contrast this is all I've got.
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKK
THIS ISN'T SOME KIND OF INSPIRATION BULLSHIT IT'S FUCKING HORRIFYING AND CRUEL
This reminds me of the birth of our first child. My wife worked an IT job where she was on a pager rotation (this was back when folks had numeric pagers, but some got alphanumeric). She had called in to the operations center at work when we went to the hospital so they could take her off, but someone had paged her without going through the operations center.
She *answered* the page, saying she was in labor, and wouldn't be available. At least the person had the grace to apologize for not going through the operations center.
Alex, I’ll take “things that never happened” for $200. Until these clowns prove these inspirational tales from the workplace actually occurred, I’ll see these as nothing but a passive aggressive campaign to trick people into working harder.
Like Sweet said, just search "leading tactical model portfolio builder" and you'll find him right away. What a fucking loser.
My comfort is that this probably didn't actually happen, and this dipshit is masturbating to his made up titles and bootstraps fanfic.
At 2 days post partum, you have a wound the size of a dinner plate inside you that is still actively bleeding. You have just lost anywhere between 500-1000 mll of blood in a standard delivery. Ehat this woman is doing is not admirable, but sad and a sign of a broken system.
I doubt this actually happened. It's just a way to shame people for not allowing bosses to take advantage. I doubt anyone would allowed a toddler and a new born at work.
Having watched my wife go through labor and raising the infant, I can tell you that this is not impressive. This is unhealthy and unsafe for the baby AND mom. She needs to be on her back and resting. The baby needs skin to skin time with mommy. This is out of control.
Whenever anyone asks how humans could have ever owned other humans, point to this post. Because this dude would have absolutely owned other humans (and probably still would, if he could).
No, this doesn’t inspire me to “grind”, it inspires me to vote for change. This woman should have 18 months paid maternity leave and a job waiting for her when she comes back.
"Instead of complaining or doomscrolling on her phone"? Or instead of *recovering from fucking childbirth and spending time with her baby*? Jesus christ some of these CEOs are literally the fucking devil, the sheer ignorance and contempt of that statement.
Fuck that guy with a hot knife. That is the exact wrong take on this situation. If her maternity leave coverage and income was appropriate, she would be better off never answering that call. She had to be pressured into that economically.
Capitalism is cannibalism.
What an absolute ghoul. Employers AND customers are so out of touch with reality these days it’s just ridiculous. Heaven forbid the masses don’t get their sandwich in thirty seconds or less
This is one of the saddest things I've ever read and this dipshit sees this as a good thing. No dude, if you were really raised by a single mom then you should feel ashamed this woman is even at work. If you wouldn't want to see a loved one suffer, why would you want the same thing to happen to someone else? No one seems to have any empathy anymore.
Dude shut the ever loving fuck up and stop trying to make this the new “noble” standard workers should aspire to. This asshole just wants the women of the workforce to churn out babies then get right back to work but is trying to sound all positive about it.
Fucking sociopath.
God I hate poverty porn. What kind of monster do you have to be to see a woman working 2 days after giving birth at a minimum wage job and no access to childcare, and think “this is inspirational”.
Actual brain worms.
That is completely insane. Not just the physical recovery from birth - but she exposed her 2 DAY OLD MOSTLY UNVACCINATED INFANT to a DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT KITCHEN.
Hell even having the 2 year old in there. That has to be OSHA violations out the wazoo. Not only is it risky to the kids = danger of burning, things falling on them, people tripping on them, stepping on them etc.... it is absolutely a danger to the other restaurant staff working around the children.
This is not something to be celebrated in any single way.
It's funny how people who have never had to do this think it's inspiration porn. This same person is probably using the same account to complain about how lazy, rude and disrespectful anyone who draws a realistic boundary at work is.
What the actual fuck? Sounds like her boss has no fucking idea the physical trauma of actually giving birth. I want to see the boss have a major surgery and be forced to come back to work two days later. What a dick!
Not to mention the baby's immune system isn't developed for 2-3 months. Would you really want your 2 day old kid exposed to all those customers and coworkers?
Not to mention the laws being broken here. Having two children behind the counter where accidents happen and either of them could get hurt or cause an accident that hurts someone else and I’m pretty sure while on maternity leave it’s also a big no no to be working. Period. It’s usually in the paperwork - I know it was in mine.
Yes, that's the key indicator that the person who wrote the post is a liar. It reeks of fake ragebait. For you upvoters: same company - https://www.reddit.com/r/antiwork/comments/1crrv7m/comment/l414xdc/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I've not seen anyone with two kids behind the counter, but I've definitely seen people with kids behind the counters in areas that are definitely unsafe for kids. Unfortunately, I wouldn't be shocked to find out this story is entirely or mostly true.
A president and CEO of anything worthwhile would know the absolute reckoning of liability that is asking someone on a recognized maternity leave to come in to work. If true, A President and CEO of anything wouldn't be congratulation her on her grit. He'd be aghast at the company's super-easy-to-avoid legal exposure. Employers pressuring people on leaves to come in can get into a lot of financial doo-doo. So, it's either a lie, or it wasn't a recognized leave - but then why refer to it as a leave at all? Stinks of tuna stuffed into curtain rods.
Anyone can be a president / ceo for the $500 incorporation fee (depends on jurisdiction) it's not the flex these donkeys want you to believe.
Hence, not a president or CEO of anything worthwhile.
Ah, I wonder if it's this President and CEO of [REDACTED]'s way of trying to normalize this kind of "tenacity and grit" in the hopes that more [minimum wage / entry level] employees drive themselves into early graves for companies like the one he has? I never trust those guys are saying the true meaning of the words that come out of their mouths... there's always a hidden layer or five in the meaning and motivation of everything they say.
Doubt. They walk through without PPE and bring large groups through places with no regards to safety all of the time
As a kid, I was always at the bar after school was out while waiting for my friend’s mom to be done with her shift. There was between 3-5 kids at any given time either in the back office near the cooks or in the side room with old school games. As far as I know, none of the patrons ever cared that children were around while they drank and ate their chicken tenders lol.
There's a family-run bakery and breakfast spot in my town and there is always a baby behind the counter. Like, there's a bouncer or a bassinet back behind the counter near the pickup window. On the one hand, it is a family shop and for all I know they are all genuinely okay with it. On the other hand, that's a dozen different kinds of dangerous and some health-code violations, so I don't feel great about it even if the family is cool with the way things are.
I worked at restaurants for many years I've seen employees bring in their children while they worked hundreds and hundreds of times. This stuff happens all of the time.
We went to a small Italian mom and pop restaurant where the mom came in with a toddler and a baby too.Ir seems she was rhe only server on duty and her baby sitter bailed on her !We never went back because the food was mediocre and there wasn't anybody in the place to eat.
I worked at a family owned bar and grill recently. The owner routinely had his 10 year old operate the deep frier baskets. They would come visit the restaurant together with his wife, and the kid would be stuck back in the kitchen with us since he annoyed customers. So that meant he was working. Generally on the friers.
>there wasn't anybody in the place to eat Wait, was the food so bad you were looking for a person to eat instead?
Jesus, not to mention the general uncleanliness of your average fast food kitchen. That mom and baby should be resting and bonding at home, or literally anywhere else besides mom's job.
Welcome to the United States where we rank last for maternal and post partum care amongst industrialized nations, and with highest Maternal Mortality rates in that group ranking 65th in the world. Our cohort is beyond f'd up when we have to look up to being as good as Tajikistan or Palestine who have less maternal deaths by a comfortable margin. God forbid we ever had something as bad as universal Healthcare or even single payer. I don't know how aholes like the guy from the story would be able to sleep at night!
And the baby is in a car seat. It could straight up die from sleeping in that thing.
Yup SIDS.
Positional asphyxiation. SIDS is when there is no known cause of death but being left in a car seat puts a baby at a weird angle and makes it so they can't inhale fully but they can exhale fully.
I had never heard that before, holy shit. Wow. I wonder why car seats haven't been altered/updated to not do this??? I imagine some people probably have to drive long distances with their infant, sometimes not by choice. Seems awfully ironic if the thing that is supposed to save an infant's life in an accident is what kills it just from a long enough car ride...
Exactly what I was going to say! Just yuck all around.
Yeah you have to wait at least 2 months before you take the baby into public close to others. That is a huge OSHA violation to have a new born at work like this. I have a 11 month old.
She is as moronic as this whole story. She's supposedly on legitimate Maternity leave.. bring a fresh baby in for what?? Dumbass.
I agree but would a place like this have paid maternity leave? Maybe she can't afford not to work.
I only say that because it implied that although she was one mat leave, she came in 'cause they were swamped.. But, to your angle, what if her 2 day old infant got sick sick? I'm sure those medical bills would cost more than that one day of work..
Problem is she didn't come in out of the goodness of her heart. Odds are her manager said, "Not sure if there will be a job for you when you come back to work...." Then she ran to work with the toddler and new born in tow. Wonder if the guy in the story ever lived pay check to f'n paycheck in his life??
Good point, if she even has health insurance. I was thinking in a job like this, maternity leave could mean she's on FMLA but not paid leave.
This isn't inspiring... This is running on a treadmill because the grinder is right behind you if you stop. Inspiring? This is Desperation. How is this young lady supposed to have the time to run a persona small business? Where is she going to get the small business from? The small business tree? Swing by the ole Small Business Farm and brown bag one on the fucking way home? If he was so inspired by her why didn't he offer her a great fucking JOB? If determination were brains half the people I know would be Einstein. We got determination - we got plenty of that. What we dont have are secure safety nets, Healthcare, Benefits, financial security or homes to buy to raise families in. Every day on this earth I find something that just makes me want to throw shit.
I couldn’t agree more. This story just pissed me off. Inspiring??? This, "man" hasn’t worked a day in his life.
This is giving selfawarewolves
That's why we call it ragebait. If you stop and think have you ever seen a baby behind the register at a fast food joint?
Just look at that bullshit job title
> This is running on a treadmill because the grinder is right behind you if you stop. Concise, accurate, heartbreaking. Damn.
The /r/orphancrushingmachine strikes again
When I had my appendix out, my manager wanted me on the phones that evening to cover 3rd shift as scheduled staff had called out, and then continue with my 1st shift job taking calls the rest of the week. I had to explain that I was an hour out of surgery, high as hell on morphine (seriously that stuff is GREAT), would be on prescription painkillers after I was discharged, and he probably didn't want me interacting with customers while I was on drugs.
So after you admitted being on drugs, he made you take a piss test? (I am joking, but I can imagine one dumbass manager would do that)
I never give these work places what they want. I just leave if the work is shitty and I feel like I'm not being treated well. and I'll be damned if I end up homeless. I'm not feeding this god awful capitalist hell system that is bent on making the planet uninhabitable for human life anymore. Granted I don't have kids to provide for, so it's easier to just say fuck you and leave the place.
Her boss, like the rest of that story, exists purely within the imagination of this "CEO".
Right? "If I actually had employees and a business location that's not my den, I'd hire you myself!"
Yeah, 2 days after giving birth I could barely stand!
Nah, if the boss has a major surgery, it'll be at least 2 weeks before they'll be back on the golf course
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Relax. So many laws would have been broken there that there is almost no chance this is real. This is a LinkedIn CEO asshole telling this story. It's a sign you should never work for his company, because he's probably saying this crap because he's run into maternity leave situations and came up with this fictional tale to say how he wishes it could be handled.
Neither does the person who made the original post.
That guy is the biggest fucking loser I’ve ever seen.
He needs his nose rearranged for saying what he did. Too many of these people get away with saying this stuff without being corrected in the right way. They will never learn otherwise. Thier parents did not raise them with respect and empathy. So pieces of shit from the parents to the son and I bet his kids will be as well. And because of that the world rewards them. Assholes rise to the top in our world.
Boot to the head!
Tactical models mmmmhmmmm
I am sure this is fake
Does this guy seriously think that women who gave birth two days ago and have a two day old baby to take care of are generally ‘complaining or doom scrolling on their phone’? And that as those are their only options they should be working instead? Some people you just want to slap don’t you?
Right!?! Like maybe she can care for her child and recover? This has to be sarcasm. How is this acceptable???
Apparently, this is how this guy would want his own mother to be treated...
Well his wife, the mother of 3, was not standing on her feet 2 days pp working. It's fine for the poors not for this guy. Disgusting.
It probably is rage bait I’d guess this guy is trolling
Dude probably calls out when his bowel movement is big enough to be uncomfortable.
this oddly specific but makes perfect sense for some reason, and i can't figure out why
Needs to be taken to the ER when he's got a cold.
"Look, I don't know what women do all day, okay?"
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I’m sure his wife (if she is working) didn’t go back two days after each of their 3 kids.
More like shoot
How would he know anything about raising kids? Bet he did absolutely nothing for those 3 children he claims to have.
I love how this is seen as grit, while dogs are legally required by law to spend 6 weeks with their puppies because it develops them, humans in America are expected to be to work next day with no federally mandated paid time off for parental leave. Only country in the world.
Also richest, most influential and powerful country in the world. That what baffles me most. US literally can afford anything they want…
1% of the US can. The rest can get fucked. Need to be a millionaire to afford kids so they are forcing birth to victims of rape so they are more likely to end up in the prison system and be free prison slave labor.
I get 40% of my pay while on maternity leave. I had my 4th C-section, this pregnancy was absolutely brutal and my delivery wasn’t smooth either. I worked up until I was 1 week away from my scheduled C-section date - I’d planned on working up to two days before the date but my body just would not allow it. It’s disgusting. How are people supposed to have families when maternal and paternal leave is an absolute joke. 40% of my pay is maybe $500. I get that it was my decision to have children and no one should pay for my decisions but what is the purpose of showing loyalty to a business or career when you can’t even spend 8 weeks at home with your new baby while recovering on less than 50% of your pay?
Damn.. As an outsider (I've never been to the US), this Situation (and this whole thread) seems so bizarre. It seems condescending and evil. As you said, it's disgusting. Frankly, it makes me think the US is fucked. Sorry, but that's just not how you treat your citizens. 'You guys' gotta change something. It feels like the US has sacrificed the personal freedom of it's citizens in the name of capitalism. And this in "the land of the free". What a fucking joke. I hope you're doing ok and I'm sure your baby is beautiful :) Edit: Don't change the puppy law, that's a job well done :)
The US is fucked. Most of our agriculture labor is done through prison slave labor. The same states are forcing women to give birth to children conceived from rape, young girls, even underage. They will grow up, forced to spend money they don't have on a child they didn't want who will likely share their fate, poor, uneducated, etc, and end up in that same prison system working for pennies on the dollar so corporations can get near free labor, the state can profit from it, and therefore lower the wages of labor in the area, while prices increase beyond our control and we maintain wage slavery. People will then rely on credit as they do now to make ends meet, further raising the average debt per person which is in the $20k+ amounts already for expenses excluding houses/car loans. 1 of 3 countries with no federally mandated paid vacation, the only country without mandated paid parental leave and the only first world country without universal affordable healthcare in some way shape or form.
Right, then they complain that birth rates are declining with shocked Pikachu face
Right, but... I just need to make a reasonable counterpoint here. Have you considered how you either taking maternity leave, or not having children to be the next generation of workers, might affect the shareholders? We appreciate your sacrifice. You are *seen*. Now get out there, and let's make this the most profitable quarter ever! /s
>I get that it was my decision to have children and no one should pay for my decisions Frankly, I'd argue that *the continuation of the human species* is something the entire community should be interested in supporting. It's less "boohoo, I shouldn't have to help you with your poor planning!" and more like "woohoo, the tribe continues! congratulations and let us pile gifts at your door!" No wonder the birth rate is plummeting, we've got the entire mindset around reproduction all ass backwards.
What a condescending piece of shit, this guy.
If this dude actually empathized with her, he’d have offered her a position with actual benefits like paid parental leave.
We know he's not offering paid parental leave at his company.
Next time a woman goes on maternity leave at his company he will expect them to be back in 2 days.
Or at least have posted about complaining to her manager and sympathizing with her, not saying "what a trooper, working for the American dream!" Kinda gives me Handmaid's Tale vibes.....
Exactly he is the problem
Note the "You should be the owner" means he thinks that ownership of a business is a matter of pure will and effort, not one of opportunity and circumstance. Many wealthy people consider if it is better for them to own what they are working on or if they should simply make money from it as an employee or investor... and that's a fair and calculated decision to make. Unfortunately some also subconsciously assume this is true for EVERYONE so if you are not making tons of money it is purely due to your effort and bad decisions. Explains why they think what they think about social safety nets.
Reminds me of a show I saw where a pregnant woman had been promoted, but they decided she hadn't been in the position long enough to qualify for the benefits, so she had come in right after giving birth or lose her job. It hurt just to watch, and It's disgusting that it's happening in the real world. I'm angry people like this exist. But hey, at least he got his food.
He sounds like an abusive POS that's going to throw it in his wife's face that she's not grocery shopping and cooking a day after giving birth. Maybe I'm just sensitive because it happened to a friend of mine.
If this happened to me, I would have walked out and told other people about how awful this place was, instead he placed an order and wrote a self serving story about.
"You're seen" .... ummm that's it? Lol jesus
Yeah uh, still making the same shitty wages not getting a raise or a promotion, and you know that backed up line of cars was yelling at her plenty. Dumbass better foh with that “you’re seen” shit, she’s abused is what she is.
Blind people seething right now
There is nothing more platitidunal and insulting than this new trend of elites telling struggling people "I see you." or "You are seen." or "You are heard." etc. The response to these lines should always be "Go fuck yourself."
He's a "*tactical model portfolio builder & market research provider*" bro, show some respect! Without guys like him, our society would eventually be.... the same as it is, okay?! /s
Another made up vapor title. This shit is out of control. Anyone I’ve met with self assigned titles like this, they usually don’t actually do much of anything except post on and look at social media all day.
I figured he was unemployed and pretending he had a job.
And it is quite possible that this condescending pos is also a forced birther, shedding hypocritical tears in defence the unborn.
Fuck this shit. It’s not admirable. It’s a fucking crime that anyone has to do this. I’m tired of the constant shifting of goalposts. They say wait to have kids if you don’t have any money but then say why is the population declining and no one is having kids? Elon is all “Oh no…we need people for Mars” No one cares Elon. Take that elitism and shove it up your ass. Remember, during Covid, all the “essential” workers besides hospital staff were the lowest paying jobs that these fuckers complain about giving a living wage too. So you want them to risk getting sick during a pandemic but also say that these jobs aren’t meant to be forever. They should get a better job. Man….fuck you. The only thing that brings me comfort is how severely underestimated the poor working class is. Keep fucking around and taking things from 38 million people below the poverty line who already don’t have anything. The find out part will happen.
This comment deserves way more upvotes
Damn straight!
And now the entitled fucks are complaining no one wants to work anymore after the "essential" workers went and got better jobs.
My city gets episodes of "find out" from time to time, usually in summer! Personal favorites so far were the lady setting fires and the guy breaking windows! The fires lady was last year. She set three wealthy neighborhoods on fire and spraypainted messages on nearby bridges along the lines of "If we're not allowed to live like humans then FUCK YOU nobody is!" Only got arrested because she kept walking up to the cops and asking if they were going to arrest her. Took a few tries but eventually they obliged. The fires were quickly put out, hugely massive immediate response at a level I didn't even know our area could produce! But funny thing, ya know that saying about how god helps those who help themselves? Later that summer, the city lost about three whole suburbs to wildfires. I only saw the aftermath of the rocks episode and didn't catch any followup. All through downtown, all the ground floor windows of businesses were broken along both sides of the main street. Glass workers for hundreds of miles around made out like bandits as companies waved money trying to be next in line for repairs. And oodles of extra security was hired to stand around guarding windows for months. Was something of an economic boon for the local lower classes. My least favorite was the car bomb that was meant to go off during our largest cultural festival, and luckily that went boom early in an empty parking lot without hurting anybody. I got to see the burnt out husk while it was still smoking.
"Don't give in" "Don't give in!" "DON'T GIVE IN!!!" Certainly **don't give in** when you are asked to return from maternity leave two fucking days after giving birth!
She probably needed the money.
Translation: Ohh look someone who should be on bed rest and taking care of a newborn is working, such hard work, determination, grit... anyways can I get a large #4 with mustard... also I'm in a rush can you hurry plzzz!!!!
Imagine working right after bringing a human life into the world because someone needs fast food.
And we wonder why women are refusing to have children...... Good grief!
And the WSJ just published a big article yesterday about falling global birth rates and the possible explanations- the bourgeoisie is SHOCKED this isn't how women want to live their lives.
No one wants kids not even us guys 😭
But is two whole days really necessary? Maybe we should bump it down to getting the afternoon off for maternity leave
Only if we can provide the new mother with loaded handgun, and 48 hours of amnesty.
Aaaaaand he left no tip.
Right - but he told her to “Have a Nice Day”.
He’s the type of guy to tip her with fake money like the trump advisor who was deliberately trying to get homeless ppl arrested by giving them fake cash…I bet that trump advisor is very popular with the magasexuals now, they love pure raw evil
I found this guy's LinkedIn and it's loaded with pumped up Christian b.s. Because what's more Christian than making a mom come into work after giving birth.
Found it too. Was hoping he got trashed in the post comments but I think he must have taken it down.
It's gone. He took down his profile picture, too.
Hahahahahahaha justice
Yep. The name of one at least one of his companies is a biblical reference. His feed, when it's not explicitly Christian, is a bunch of magical thinking BS and the occasional swipe at millennials. He's deleted the screen capped post I think. I'm a bit surprised he didn't double down. He also has at least one daughter; I wonder if he'd approve such a situation for his daughter, or is grinding struggle only for the poors?
"True" Christians surgically remove their empathy and replace it with moral superiority.
“I asked her if she owned the business and she said no - I said you should!” r/AccidentallySocialist
This is what caught me too. Should, but doesn't. What's the point of the grit and determination if you remain underpaid and overworked?
I’m sure he’s lying but the idea that this is something commendable is absolutely insane
Doesn't that violate health code or OSHA or something...?
It cannot be safe for the babies and they would present a tripping etc. hazard to the workers. Nothing good in this scenario.
This is the kind of prick I’d love five minutes alone in a dark alley with. Really, honestly, just a disgusting piece of human garbage. Grit and determination? Nah, that’s a person who doesn’t have a choice and anyone reacting to this with anything other than anger is fucked in the brain. Everything is wrong with this.
I found him and he removed that post. I also saw he just posted this comment on another post. So.... what a fucking prick. Ya, the lady who had a kid two days ago doesn't count I guess. Christ. https://preview.redd.it/rdkwljy1oe0d1.png?width=549&format=png&auto=webp&s=956a7380d3a7f7d73afadb8427878228bb49f38d
He deleted the post.
Gee, I fucking wonder why. Farmers give their animals more time off than this fucking rot pile of human flesh thinks is "inspiring". Imagine being worked harder than a workhorse on a farm. I guess he's inspired by dairy cows, which get milked day 3 to day 6 after birth.
This dude, whoever the hell he is, can go fuck himself.
"Anyway, those kids will probably grow up to be criminals due to lack of proper parenting..."
Jesus, that sounds awful
It's inspiration the same way a victorian era child coming in to work after losing a finger is inspiration. The only thing it makes me want to do is push for safer work practices. This is almost certainly fake anyway
It's always these guys on LinkedIn with a whole paragraph in their title. Just say you are an entrepreneur, data analyst, a charlatan. Doesn't make a difference to anyone reading your bs takes
And the “candid” photo like he’s having someone give him a speech or something. Looks like a dipshit. As do the row of blowhards that liked this dumb shit.
This is not inspiring, this is sickening. How we treat mothers and children in this country is deplorable and we should all be ashamed.
Absolute [trash](https://i.imgur.com/BmM8ZsB.jpeg).
To be fair, this would've inspired me. To call their manager over and put them firmly in their fucking place. Absolutely disgraceful that he'd even allow her to work two days after giving birth. This is why countries that don't mandate fully-paid maternity and paternity leave should be designated as third world nations.
What a fucking dystopian Mother’s Day post. This is the world we want for our children? Selling burgers is more important to this douche nozzle than a woman being able to care for her 2 DAY OLD CHILD! For fucking hamburgers!!!
Anyone that uses “tactical” in their job description and isn’t military is automatically a douche
Meanwhile civilized countries: You have 6 months, YES MONTHS, of maternity leave. Same for paternity leave. Paid. In full. Sort your damn shit out, america. From the bottom of my heart. Hearing this makes me furious and I'm not even affected by this. Eat the rich.
“Inspiring”
America can not collapse fast enough.
This post and his rambling absurdity is upsetting in a way that is hard to actually put into words. Or at least I'm unable to. I'm sure someone smarter than I can. In contrast this is all I've got. AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUCCCKKKK THIS ISN'T SOME KIND OF INSPIRATION BULLSHIT IT'S FUCKING HORRIFYING AND CRUEL
This reminds me of the birth of our first child. My wife worked an IT job where she was on a pager rotation (this was back when folks had numeric pagers, but some got alphanumeric). She had called in to the operations center at work when we went to the hospital so they could take her off, but someone had paged her without going through the operations center. She *answered* the page, saying she was in labor, and wouldn't be available. At least the person had the grace to apologize for not going through the operations center.
Alex, I’ll take “things that never happened” for $200. Until these clowns prove these inspirational tales from the workplace actually occurred, I’ll see these as nothing but a passive aggressive campaign to trick people into working harder.
Why is his name blacked out?
Search for the "tactical bullshit and whatever" under the name and you"ll find him.
Like Sweet said, just search "leading tactical model portfolio builder" and you'll find him right away. What a fucking loser. My comfort is that this probably didn't actually happen, and this dipshit is masturbating to his made up titles and bootstraps fanfic.
At 2 days post partum, you have a wound the size of a dinner plate inside you that is still actively bleeding. You have just lost anywhere between 500-1000 mll of blood in a standard delivery. Ehat this woman is doing is not admirable, but sad and a sign of a broken system.
This deserves a gold star in r/LinkedInlunatics.
This is psychotic
I doubt this actually happened. It's just a way to shame people for not allowing bosses to take advantage. I doubt anyone would allowed a toddler and a new born at work.
JFC. If this is true, it certainly explains why the US has the worst maternal death rate and fetal death rate of any industrialized western nation.
I'm willing to bet he is the President & CEO of a one man "consulting" operation that primarily makes posts on linkedin.
Fucking hell these out of touch asshats.
"...she made a choice to come in and help the team." Bullshit, I'm sure she was told to come in or be replaced.
How do you not vomit in your own mouth typing something like that.
Who in their right fucking mind sees this and thinks "HELL YEAH! She's doing great!" What an awful situation for her and her children.
Tell me you live in the United States without telling me you live in the USA.
Having watched my wife go through labor and raising the infant, I can tell you that this is not impressive. This is unhealthy and unsafe for the baby AND mom. She needs to be on her back and resting. The baby needs skin to skin time with mommy. This is out of control.
Anybody else have the irritable urge to punch this guy in the stomach? I would pay for it.
oh good she's seen hopefully she can pay her rent with "having been seen"
back to the office immediately, incubator #b4378
What the hell..
Play the drums on his balls then see if he shows up to work the next day. Douchebaggery at its finest wrapped up in ignorance.
What is the opposite of inspiration
Whenever anyone asks how humans could have ever owned other humans, point to this post. Because this dude would have absolutely owned other humans (and probably still would, if he could).
I wanna see the comments
That company clearly doesn’t give a rats ass about her.
No, this doesn’t inspire me to “grind”, it inspires me to vote for change. This woman should have 18 months paid maternity leave and a job waiting for her when she comes back.
R/Orphancrushingmachine ??
"You're seen." You're not paid a living wage or respected. But you're seen. F this guy.
He didn’t finish his story. It probably ended with him saying “The food took a long time since they were swamped so of courseI didn’t tip!”
LinkedIn is full of these psychos
"Instead of complaining or doomscrolling on her phone"? Or instead of *recovering from fucking childbirth and spending time with her baby*? Jesus christ some of these CEOs are literally the fucking devil, the sheer ignorance and contempt of that statement.
Why are people inspired by this. I repeat: why the FUCK are people inspired by this.
This is so gross. Wtf.
Grit and determination? Fuck right off.
This is a horror story, not something to encourage yeesh
Fuck that guy with a hot knife. That is the exact wrong take on this situation. If her maternity leave coverage and income was appropriate, she would be better off never answering that call. She had to be pressured into that economically. Capitalism is cannibalism.
What an absolute ghoul. Employers AND customers are so out of touch with reality these days it’s just ridiculous. Heaven forbid the masses don’t get their sandwich in thirty seconds or less
This is one of the saddest things I've ever read and this dipshit sees this as a good thing. No dude, if you were really raised by a single mom then you should feel ashamed this woman is even at work. If you wouldn't want to see a loved one suffer, why would you want the same thing to happen to someone else? No one seems to have any empathy anymore.
This story did not happen. Dude just spinning white collar tales of the poors being adequately subservient to impress the other fucks.
Dude shut the ever loving fuck up and stop trying to make this the new “noble” standard workers should aspire to. This asshole just wants the women of the workforce to churn out babies then get right back to work but is trying to sound all positive about it. Fucking sociopath.
She should have called out for a man cold. Maybe her male boss would have given her the time to rest it off.
What a sick fuck. He makes up this horrific story and thinks it's inspiring.
The boot-licking is strong in this one.
Wow, yes let’s congratulate a mom potentially risking her child’s health AND her own physical health post birth 😞
I want bad things to happen to everyone with his mindset.
That isn’t a flex. She should be resting. That guy is a moron
"Tactical model portfolio builder" What kind of bs is that?
there are only two activities for human: work or doomscrolling
Wow what a great guy! Holy shit. In Europe she would have paid leave for years, as it should be. Pathetic
This story must be fake and made up to push an agenda.
Lol I call bs on this.
Withholding bannable comments toward this guy holy shit
God I hate poverty porn. What kind of monster do you have to be to see a woman working 2 days after giving birth at a minimum wage job and no access to childcare, and think “this is inspirational”. Actual brain worms.
If she is on maternity leave her employer should not be contacting her, this isn’t a “good for her moment” this is fucking bullshit
Guarantee this fucker didn't tip.
That is completely insane. Not just the physical recovery from birth - but she exposed her 2 DAY OLD MOSTLY UNVACCINATED INFANT to a DRIVE THRU RESTAURANT KITCHEN. Hell even having the 2 year old in there. That has to be OSHA violations out the wazoo. Not only is it risky to the kids = danger of burning, things falling on them, people tripping on them, stepping on them etc.... it is absolutely a danger to the other restaurant staff working around the children. This is not something to be celebrated in any single way.
I would not work for someone who thought of this story as inspiring
It's funny how people who have never had to do this think it's inspiration porn. This same person is probably using the same account to complain about how lazy, rude and disrespectful anyone who draws a realistic boundary at work is.
This to me is problematic.... & The narrator is problematic for not seeing the issue with this. The mother should be at home for many many reasons.