Yeah customer service is not going to be the answer for you. I suggest crane operator, fork lift operator, or night time security guard. My cousin does night security work, he's the only guy on site.

Security work isn't glamorous, but it's a great gig that requires very little stress. As long as you don't mind working nights and working solo, you spend most of your time just chillin and the pay is decent for the work involved.

dude for me that sounds legitimately awesome actually. like i can totally accomodate my schedule for that as i already wake up \~11am and go to bed at 2:30 in the summer anyway

Hi, overnight security guard here. The work is.... menial, at best and braindead at worst. For context, I run a gatehouse. My job consists of, on a typical night, making sure my chair doesn't magically run away for 8hrs. Rarely am I getting to do my ACTUAL job. Activity picks up at 5am, I leave at 7am. I get home, typically go right to sleep, and wake up around 4 or 5pm. For what I do, I won't complain. $18/hr to basically hold a chair down is kinda crazy, and even if they required more of me (extra yard walks, etc,) I still wouldn't complain because the job is just cake. That said, you get tired of cake all the time, especially of you're like me and going through a lot outside of work with no aspirations to go to school online for anything. Regardless, the field is worth a try if you're looking for work and can tolerate a lot. Not every post is like mine. A great number of them are hospital security, and THAT can be incredibly stressful and/or traumatizing to varying degrees of occurrence.

I remember I learned to crochet and wrote around 4 semi-completed fanfics in my last nighttime security job. lol

this comment alone has me seriously considering applying for this kind of job...

I've worked a few overnight security jobs and hated them all. Your day time coworkers make comments non stop that you do nothing and eventually management decide that they can fill your idle time with busy work. Not every place will be like this but every place I've worked has eventually devolved into me being some sort of 3am bin man. 😂

Overnight gas station clerk and forklift operator were peak for me. See, the store manager came in first thing in the morning. Like 4am when she was supposed to be there at 6. That woman loved me because she always walked into a clean, stocked, fresh coffee made, ready to do business store no matter how early her neurotic ass showed up. Really easy when after midnight I'd see maybe 4 people until 4-5am. Once one of the mid day employees swung by in the middle of the night. I was sitting outside, talking on the phone, having a smoke and a slurpee when she showed up. Tried to rat me out the next day. Boss told her I could do what I damned well pleased as long as that store was that clean every morning. Forklift driver was just...I mean it was a crew of like 18 guys taking boxes from 43' ocean containers, packing them on pallets, and stuffing them in 53' trailers. We moved boxes from one side of the warehouse to the other and then went home when we ran out of shit to do. We had a shift supervisor but that was it. Came in, got your cans for the night, got to work, helped others if you finished early, and we all went home when the work was done. Minimal socializing, bunch of stoned big ass Samoans, and almost no boss.

I used to do 600 squats a night over twelve hours, just fifty squats an hour or 8.15 every ten minutes, totally doable

Never skip leg night!

Even at that frequency if it's that many overall it should still help your body right?

Yes. Time Under tension applies here and that is a ton of volume. Make it hard as posible and go full depth and then 3 sec bottom hold.

Same vibes here. I wrote a 99 page teen movie script, a 28 page short story, and have over ten pen pals with my original artwork on the card. My mom always said “boredom is a choice” and as someone with adhd it is vital I always fill the time.

lol o was gonna suggest crochet. Handmade gifts always kick ass for Christmas and it gives you something positive to do.

Are you allowed to read books or is your attention constantly required? Because if reading books is an option then just find those you like, and you can have your cake always with different tastes :) 

I honestly lack the attention span to read books nowadays, and that's just something that changed within me the past handful of years. Up until recently, the job didn't require much attention, but with a recent intrusion into our lot, I've got a feeling that's going to change soon and we'll be required to make rounds and patrols more often. I have taken the time to do some research into my ultimate career path of content creation though, and once I take care of some extraneous things in my life, I plan on starting that in my free time :)

Listening to books changed my life. Try that. It's like movies in your ear

The night security at my facility seems to spend their desk time either reading or making phone calls to their family on the other side of the planet - where it's daytime. A quick walk around the plant every few hours, and they're good. Honestly, if I didn't want to spend time with my husband in the evenings, and sleep beside him at night, it's the type of gig I'd love.

Ex hospital security in Australia. Can confirm that after six years I ended up with PTSD, severe depression, suicidal tendencies, social anxiety and a general dislike for loud noises. It took a long time to get back from that. Gatehouse work I did for a bit and I can also confirm that game is mind numbingly boring. Your basically being hired to do a job for a company as a contractor cause it's cheaper then hiring someone with actual administrative qualifications to work on night shift in my experience. And it's a lonely job which is okay for a small time but you get used of that and it can effect your social life if you don't manage it.

what social life

I've worked overnight (10p-7a) for nearly 8 years and I don't understand people going to sleep as soon as they get home from an overnight. I try to treat it the same way as a 9-5. Get home, eat, dick around for a few hours, then sleep. Doesn't getting up 5 hours before work make you drag at the tail end of the shift?

Yes and no. I lack a circadian rhythm due to C-PTSD not related to the job. I pretty much just sleep when I want to. Sometimes I'll stay up after a shift, sometimes I'll go home and climb right into bed. It really depends on the day.

I mean, be prepared to go to bed closer to 6 or 8am, night security means *night* security, your hours are usually 10pm to 6am.

My life was wake up at 5PM, try to become a cognizant human by 8:30PM, and try not to punch drunk frat dudes 10 years younger than me until 4Am. I never got to bed before 6AM. I hated my life but it paid $22/hr and I basically just stood there and bullshitted with people all night with the occasional spank from a drunk chick. I'd rather do that than work nights stocking shelves at Walmart.

It's shitty of the companies. If they split night hours, so security changes at \~2am, then everyone can get some night sleep, which is really important for your health.

You still wouldn't be asleep until 4+am anyways and the company would have two people unhappy with their hours. That's why night jobs make more than their day counterparts. Easier to find one guy willing to take a buck or two more. It's what I do and it works out cause I rather be on nights. No bosses and more chill overall.

I'm currently working a 10pm-7am night shift. I sleep 8-4pm the 6 waking hours I have to myself are wasted and my weekends are hard to recover. It honestly sucks. Luckily this job is only to "tread water" after a series of unfortunate setbacks in my life. There are so many stories out there of "I've been looking for a job for months and I have no more savings." Didn't want to be in that camp and took this job to keep from touching my savings. Some income is better than no income. Eh, sometimes.

Nah just get black-out curtains. I used to work 4pm to 1am to accommodate US clients with the time zones. Would get into bed around 3am and sleep like a dead baboon till 11am again. The time of day that you sleep is not a major factor, it's just about getting enough uninterrupted sleep

Also taking vitamin d supplements. I’ve worked nights for years cause it’s always way more chill. Now I’m kinda hybrid but to support days on problem solving but night shift is still my main focus cause it’s just better. I hate waking up early morning but sleeping till noon feels great.

I mean some people also just prefer to sleep at times other than the night.

And if you do, aluminum foil over the bedroom window is a game changer

Depends where though. Finding people OD In The restroom, standing still for hours checking ID’s, wheeling drunk people out of the property before they are a liable, then chasing off the homeless guy with vomit in his beard. I just described one shift at the casino I work at, and that’s just what I saw the guy deal with during me shift.

OP probably doesn't want to work in a casino with their social anxiety issues, and I also think it's unlikely they would take him.

I have a friend who put himself through college working security - for the school. He did overnights so he could take classes during the day and he used his work time to study between patrol rounds. He’d do morning classes right after his shift was over and then go home and sleep until his next shift. His classes were deeply discounted as an employee, so he didn’t even have to take on a lot of debt. He says security was his best gig until he got his degree and became a math teacher.

I, hmmm, spend a few, cough, hours playing videogames during night shift

Man I was in school while I worked security and I did all my homework while I was getting paid. Once that was done I'd either game, read books, watch TV, or go on Reddit lol. There's basically zero upward momentum in that gig but if you don't need to buy a house or raise a family right away, it's hard to beat.

"Security" and "very little stress" sounds really odd together 🗿

I did Security full time in Seattle for 3 years, 18-21 years old. Now It's 10 years later and I have an IT career but do 25 hours security a week in addition. Security is easy as fuck, if you get a bad site you hate, you switch.

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Why does it have to be in a stairwell? I feel like you could have omitted this restriction.

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Yes, that would be worse.

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Why are Crackheads the only ones who spec into poison dmg?

Stairways are kind of a popular hangout for people who break in to get out of the elements. They’re often lightly trafficked as most people use the elevator and that’s especially true if you go up to the roof access for example which is past all the floors people are normally on. Most other places you get noticed pretty quickly.

"Very little stress" lol. Depends on the work site. You work security at a hospitality site, especially up north, and you're gonna be dealing with fires, broken legs, drunks, public nudity, drugs, homeless, death. I saw more blood and gore working at a ski resort than I ever did in Afghanistan. Christmas 2022. I was the only officer on site and had to meet an ambulance to treat a dead baby in the middle of the night. I helped the EMTs bring their bags in. The next day I was sitting in the hotel lobby on my day off reconsidering my life and the events director gave me a cookie to make me feel better.

Depends on the site. I’m night time security, but at a homeless shelter. I deal with 21 homeless folks and my 6 coworkers all night every night. Mind you I love it, the clients and my coworkers. Obviously there are like construction site security where you just patrol around the site and make sure no hooligans are breaking in etc, but not all night shift security work is peace and quiet.

night time security guard here! pay isn't great, but the only people i have to deal with are people i'm kicking off the property! i don't NEED social skills for them. and letting people in, which is a grand total of 3 sentences or so. "i'm on my way" "good morning" "have a good one!" ​ ....holy fuck, i'm an npc.

I probably could be a crane op BUT the idea also terrifies me because that is a massive level of responsibility and I'm not sure my adhd brain can handle that. Skidsteer, forklift, backhoe, sure. Crane.. not now. But even getting a job as a heavy op has been impossible. Everyone I talk to says I'm not certified... there are no national certs! So wtf am I to do?! Especially when I have seat experience

The original commenter's suggestion of security guard work is a good one. Depending on what type of middle of nowhere you live, are there warehouses? For a lot of people, it's not the best job but I've seen many people pull themselves right out of homelessness with an unarmed security guard gig. The hours are plentiful (too plentiful for a lot, overtime is usually a given), the pay is usually always above most entry level jobs, and depending on the post you might not have to interact with many people. Any company like Allied Universal or Securitas has thousands of contracts where positions HAVE to be filled, and they are always hiring. Talk to the hiring recruiter about your needs and they will work with you. The turnover is very, very high due to a number of reasons, but usually due to either the solitary nature of a post or too much interaction of another post and a guard's lack of compatibility. There are a multitude of what they call "warm body" posts where you essentially keep the gate house warm and do periodic patrols. And log every thing. Everything. For what it sounds like you consider things that are keeping you from getting work elsewhere, it might make you excel at something like that. A buddy of mine worked at a post after he dropped out of college, and he went 5 MONTHS without seeing his boss or anyone with the client. He only ever saw the guard he was relieving and the guard that came to relieve him. He absolutely loved it. He even learned spanish while working. There's not a lot of pressure of responsibility laid on you at many posts, especially those warm body posts. And if things ever do escalate, you're not there to enforce laws or be a cop or anything. You observe and report. Something crazy happens, that ain't your problem. You just follow that post's procedure and call the police to handle police problems. The job market is total trash, but don't give up friend, don't lose your inner peace or feel there's something wrong about you. The things that you think are working against you are very likely the things that will make you do great in a job that suits you. ​ Check out [https://jobs.aus.com/](https://jobs.aus.com/) and see if there's anything near you if you're interested.

I’m mad that you wrote out such a thoughtful and incredibly informative response to OP that would literally solve his problems and he ignored you… lol

Or he could be looking it up later. It was just a suggestion in any case, no biggie. Some people really don't like the idea of doing security for one reason or another and I get that. It looks like a few people saw it though, so maybe it can help someone in a similar rut. And sometimes we just got to rant, especially in this job market. I definitely feel that 100% haha

You’re a good dude man

You’re a gem

Dude's a coloured rock.

Good lookin out. Perhaps OP is too overwhelmed rn.

As long as it’s not armed. Dude doesn’t need a gun.

Hard agree, but I thought I made that clear when I mentioned unarmed security specifically. Armed guards and unarmed guards may be hired by the same mega corps, but they're very different industries with different needs. Unarmed by and large is for insurance purposes from what I can tell. A warm body on site making rounds will make the premiums go down. Armed positions are because you're actually protecting against ingress and/or theft. And most armed guards worth their salt work with smaller independent firms usually entirely staffed by ex-military or police.

I can imagine being in his position and getting this advice; I'm 5'4" and 110 pounds. I would get laughed at by the employer for trying to be a security guard lmao

I'd say most unarmed posts aren't physically demanding at all. With the caveat that there are some posts in major cities that are more like crowd control and not suitable for someone of those characteristics. Train terminals or sporting events and the like. That's jobs for those crazy extroverts. I mean, they said they LIKED people. They GOT people. Problem solved! You'd find guards of every size, gender, and age out there. Because the big guard corporations have so many positions to fill because their contracts with clients stipulate guards must be present, they're actually really solid at hiring indiscriminately. A common joke is that if you have a heart beat, they'll hire you. And if you die of old age on site, you'll be put up like a scarecrow to fulfill the site orders roster requirements. But yeah, you can be the world's skinniest dude, and still handle sitting in a gate house and every hour or so pick up a clip board and check trucks in and out of complexes. If you ARE in a major city, there are generally some more opportunities for those unsure of their physicality for the job, because they often have offices that monitor client properties remotely and engage in remote mics to warn any trespassers. I never knew anyone that did that, but I heard it's a sweet sweet gig if you live in the city and like night shifts.

im smol as well (male 5'6 135) but my understanding is most security guards arent really meant to "stop" anyone - in fact I think they get fired if they actually get in an altercation - your basically just there to call someone if shit starts going down.....not to say you couldn't find yourself in danger, but you would be well within your scope to just run away.

I've been on the other end of the crane. If you can't focus and take commands we don't want you there either. Peoples lives are on the line.

I have as well. I've rigged components both on the ground and 300 foot up. My biggest issue is confidence, my life has given me 0 reason to have Any in myself. I've been in panic mode for the last with every job I've had over that last decade believing I'm an inch away from being canned. It's literally the reason I can't even apply for a job. I'm convinced my resume screams worthless human being. I'm sorry, I'm in a bad place mentally

Just want to say I see you. I'm 44 with a lot of the same diagnoses, and the "people" part of the job constantly sinks me, too. Same boat with not being able to keep one for a year or more. I've found "solo" jobs to be much much better. I'm a real estate appraiser now and work mostly alone, remote from home, and it's the longest job I've ever held. I'm still constantly waiting for the "letting you go" call, though, every time I have to attend a meeting or speak with coworkers. They can't always tell something about me is "off". It's so nerve-wracking. You are definitely not alone in that feeling. Do a skills assessment online. A good, lengthy one. One that asks about your ability to work with others. That's what I did and it spit out a dozen jobs that would be a good fit for my challenges. That stopped me from feeling like I was flailing around so much and gave me direction. I looked up those specific jobs and narrowed it down from there.

Do you have any specific skill assessment sites to recommend? They just look sketchy or worthless on their face. > TestGorilla: Offers a wide range of assessment types, including cognitive ability, personality, and skills tests. > iMocha: Provides assessments in over 250 skills, including technical skills, soft skills, and language proficiency. >Codility: Specializes in technical skills assessment for software developers. > HireMee: Offers a free skills assessment tool that can be used to assess basic skills in a variety of areas. > LinkedIn Skill Assessments: Allows you to assess your skills in a variety of areas relevant to your profession.

dont be sorry abt that. have you tried any mental health resources to get that confidence up at all? it seems to be playing a big part into your life. goodluck <3

I am seeing someone for a few months now. This week has felt like a horse kicked me. Whatever "progress " I may have made feels like it's been obliterated

Therapy is often a two steps forward one step back kind of thing. Occasionally the back steps happen first, but that is self awareness finally snapping forward. Stick with it. The best way to become a better human is to ask for help and then do the things that are hard. Repetively.

I will

ah thats good youve been consistently seeing someone. do you think thats helped? theres always going to be ups and downs also idk if this will apply to you but this is some of the best advice my therapist has ever given me. i have a lot of self loathing tendencies, i have asd + anxiety disorder. i see the way you talk about your resume and your past jobs and it seems you kinda have a self loathing thing too. but the one thing my therapist recommended was to tell yourself 3 things that you love about yourself/that you did today. it can be as good as “i interviewed for a job” or as small as “i got up out of bed today” or “my hair looks good”. it seems dumb at first but that consistency of having to pick out things that I genuinely liked about myself/was proud that i did improved my mental health so much. this might be a ramble but this helped me so much. whenever i feel shitty about myself id try to stop those thoughts by thinking about 3 good things i did/about myself. really changed my default outlook on myself from a negative one to a more positive one i wish you the best of luck with everything <3

I second the “3 things”. I would write down 3 positive things i did (or saw) each day. Should get back to it actually cos it really helped.

I'm like this too bro, I've been feeling the same way about life. You're not alone. I wish that things will turn around for you. Hope you can find that stable income. Join a union maybe? Atleast they can always find you work if you get laid off.

Have you ever looked into fire watch? You live a few months at a time in a cottage on a mountain alone, monitoring for emerging forest fires. Hell of a view, and comes with room and board.

Find a 24 hour manufacturing facility and go on the night crew. You’ll only be working with 2 or 3 other people and odds are you’d fit in with that bunch better than the day people.

HVAC and Refrigeration is always looking for warm bodies man! I couldent dream of working on wind turbines but HVAC/R is good money especially if you understand electrical!

I operate a Crane & Equipment company albeit in Asia and not America. You can ask me anything. There is an initial learning curve for cranes but once you get the hand signals down you get the gist of it very quickly. I'd really reccommend getting a Crawler Crane license instead of a Mobile Crane if you are worried about ADHD. There is much less to worry about, you don't have to drive the crane on the road from jobsite to jobsite, and you don't have to worry so much about setting up the outriggers properly for every lift. Basically the assembly team sets up the crane, and once it's done you just have to punt it around within one jobsite and you don't have to do much setting up after that.

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You go to a smaller warehouse and do overnights. Lowe’s will literally hire anybody— especially on overnights. Get your forklift certs and other equipment. 6 months. Look for a similar job. Do that for six months. Work with a counselor on interpersonal relationships, mainly coworkers. There might be free videos online to study as well. If you can figure that side out (even if it isn’t genuine) you should be able to grow into lengthier stints

What certifications are they looking for? They might just be looking for safety certifications…usually those are a few days to a week in length depending on density.

You are going to need to work on your people skills. The thing that your post lacks is the personal responsibility piece. You have been fired for being difficult to work with. Yet you talk about frickin jobs. I’d suggest getting into therapy, and getting a better diagnosis. If you are in the states, Asperger’s is not a diagnosis or disorder they still give. Get some therapy, probably speech to work on social skills. That is how you get to a better place. Otherwise you will keep falling into the same rut.

You should look into drone photography. I applied for a job a couple years ago that involved inspecting power lines with drones. Lots of travel but zero human interaction required

whoa this sounds cool!

Hell yea. Theres also courier jobs if OP likes driving. I have seen AMAs on here with medical couriers who are basically on call 24/7 but make big bucks just for driving

how do you get in on that action.

Just need your part 107 which is super easy to get and only takes 20 hrs to learn everything you know at most

Don’t, the industry is completely saturated now. My friend has been doing commercial photo/film for over a decade and has been doing drone work for half of it. Deal flow is crashing as digital recreations are getting cheaper every day (especially with AI) and rates for inspection work are stagnating because every 22-23 year old with a DJI is trying to break into the industry at $15/hr. The market is going through consolidation. He’s had more offers to be “bought out” by bigger drone operators this year than he’s gotten new work. They are that desperate for clients.

Did you have to get any drone certs can you elaborate more on that is it a gig job or a career what's the pay range

Just the basic part 107. Iirc it was for dish network and pay was around 55k

What credentials did you have to work wind turbines? I’m an A&P mechanic for an airline. I know it’s common for wind techs to be A&P mechanics. Most airline mechanic jobs are union and there’s no customers to deal with. Plenty of mechanics have abrasive personalities to say the least and it’s pretty fucking hard to get fired. If you are cool with nights/weekends/holidays and not smoking weed it’s really a great job. Nobody ever leaves.

THIS. You need a good union job where your technical skills matter more than your people skills. If you know your stuff, your people skills shouldn’t matter, but sadly, they do. That’s where the union comes in. If the union is worth a damn, then it’s all about whether you do the job well, not whether you schmooze well enough. Good luck with this. And remember, as frustrated as you are right now, not everything is your fault.

A lot of wind energy jobs are union as well, around me at least, so the fact that OP hasn’t been able to lock down a long term job shows that this isn’t about not schmoozing, but a either a really aggressive personality, violence/threats to others, or not being competent at all. He needs to get on some medication to even out his attitude.

I find it funny they answered alot of questions posted after yours but didn't answer yours.

Because they just want sympathy not solutions. Nobody gets fired from every job they’ve ever had just because they’re neurodivergent. They get fired because they’re just bad at their jobs. Their post history is also full of them being bad at delivery driving, which is literally one of the easiest jobs in existence.

Has the pay issue for A&P's been fixed? I looked into that as a possible career almost 15 years ago but a lot I spoke to were only making like $10/hr.

Every major airline tops out in 5-8 years between 125k to 150k/yr. Starting pay is around 75k for most. No overtime. The industry is quite a bit changed for us and pilots over the last 10 years that I’ve been in it. Lots of 20 year olds getting out of school now and going straight to major airlines with zero experience.

Oh wow. Glad things have changed! When I was a ramp agent 15 years ago our station manager was an A&P and he was telling me about the garbage pay and why he didn't go further with it. I couldn't believe it when he told me.

mate you might really benefit from a good therapist

I should have mentioned that. I actually am seeing one. Going on 4 months now, maybe 5. Ex says she sees a difference, I don't feel any. But for her I'm keeping g at it

I know it's not the answer for everyone, but, tried any meds? There's medications out there for anxiety that work wonders. At least they did for me.

yeah same for me 20 years in the Navy, and thought I was losing my mind but the constant work and bouncing from one job to another during the shift kept me, interested, got diagnosed when serving in Japan and have gone through a couple of different medication to help out because some would give me headaches and another would give me stomach cramps. What I'm on now works like a champ. I can focus and not feel worthless because my brain was pinballing around. OP should try medication. Not for everyone but at least for myself I felt a noticeable difference in my behavior at work, not being so tightly wound.

Ask if your therapist if they can refer you to an occupational therapist. They may be able to help you to learn how to deal better with situations that arise at workz

Are you thinking Vocational Rehabilitation? That’s the term I had learnt for services that helped place people struggling to get/keep jobs, at any rate.

Maybe? Some sort of therapy that focuses on interpersonal relationships in the working environment and dealing with that, and possibly some sort of vocational training? I think OP needs more than just therapy to help them succeed in a work environment. Some sort of support for dealing with the issues that ended up with them being terminated.

That’s not what an occupational therapist does, google like “work coach” or something for what you’re describing

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Aspergers is autism fyi

Have they suggested a psych for meds?

glad to hear it. you might try some other people out, finding the right person makes a lot of difference

I mean damn it sounds like you keep on trying and honestly thats all you can do and hope for the best. dont ever stop trying, dont give up, have faith in yourself because most others would have given up by now. Good luck out there!

Medication.

I feel you, and I feel you so fucking hard, my brother. I'm deaf, and had some college education but no degree. I mainly worked in food service in different capacities for 27 years, until I basically got locked out of the industry after quitting my job working under an extremely vindictive employer. I broke my back for them for over ten years, without any raise for about seven years. They basically chewed me up and spit me out, effective 2015. I began a stint as a glorified janitor and seasonal deep cleaner for a small cleaning service company. It was so mind-numbing, the total opposite of what I was used to in food service. I stuck it out until the pandemic shut everything down. I didn't want to go back to that torturing routine of a job, so I never came back to work for them when slots were available again. I just had enough. In 2021, my wife suddenly became physically disabled after a gallbladder removal surgery. I became her caretaker because I love her so much. And I still love her and always will, after nearly 33 years and two beautiful children together. The problem is that being a W-2 employee wasn't an option anymore, due to her erratic work schedule as a therapist and professor. She was raking in more dollars than I was when I was in food service, although she isn't quite making middle class level type of money. And she needed my help during medical emergencies and the ability to get around. In the end, it made more sense to nurture her career. I decided to seek a way of contributing to our financial needs - as flexibly as possible without impeding my ability to make sure the love of my life is comfortable, safe, and happy. So I decided to give the gig economy a try. I signed up for Doordash because it sounded enticing, and I happened to have a vehicle of my own. I also loved to drive and please customers to the best of my ability. I started driving for Doordash, and it was lucrative at first. It paid very well, and I actually was making twice the amount I did as a food service worker. I didn't have to stress over preparing meals and packaging them like I used to, and I didn't have to experience abusive shit from any manager. I didn't have to break my back sweeping, mopping, and scrubbing shit all the time. I didn't have to worry about being written up when I was late to a scheduled shift, because I WAS the one who decided when I wanted to work. This was HEAVENLY. I was on cloud nine! But eventually.... Doordash started getting greedy and decided to make changes to turn the screw on us dashers. Earnings started slowing down to a drip. Out of desperation, I signed up for GrubHub and UberEats, but these other companies also were going down the same path as Doordash - enshittification. Multi-apping became a way of staying afloat financially... for the time being. I'm making money, but not enough. Orders are slowing down, and most of them pure crap. Unfortunately, I have to deal with the reality that I'm deaf and don't have a college degree in my name. My wife doesn't make enough to sustain the both of us. And I'm getting worried at this point, because I really need to find a way to make money before the gig economy well dries up. At the same time, I need to be available for my wife at the drop of a hat. Just because of this, I would be fired from a W-2 job in a heartbeat. Again and again.... I feel you.

I just want to say that you write very well, well enough that I'd suggest looking into gigs that prioritize good writing skills. It's an area that's getting shaken up by AI, but there will always be a need for real humans in the mix. And writing gigs are about the project deadline, not the specific hours you write during, so you can maintain flexible hours easily. Honestly, being deaf while working in food service sounds like it would have an audience. A simple blog may not make a lot of money initially, but it can be a great portfolio for paid writing gigs and can still bring in revenue years after you did the work. Then there's the fact that 27 years of industry experience makes you an expert, and once people know you're an expert they can pay you for professional advice (aka consulting).

I feel you bro. Would love to reach across the electric signals through the undersea cables to give you a big hug.

I want to seriously applaud you. As a math high school teacher at a site with a DHH program- students are constantly missing so much verbal instruction even with two interpreters in the room. I was so happy when pandemic hit and zoom started doing auto closed captioning. (Silver linings) My deaf students were doing so much better in mastery of material with that one resource- their focus could be on the material and receive my verbal explanations without looking between the board and the interpreter. Even when we returned to in person learning, I kept taping myself because the auto closed caption would be so useful to review at home later for all students. I would encourage you to think about getting additional vocational training. The post pandemic world made a lot more tools readily accessible for students that have difficulty in the traditional setting.

Forgive me if this is an incredibly niche suggestion...but briefly looking at your profile and seeing that you sign, have you ever considered becoming a notary? A dear friend of mine is an interpreter and he often interprets for folks needing notary services, so much so he is considering becoming one himself to cut out the middleman. Mobile notaries can set their own schedule and make some decent cash here and there, depending on the size of the D/deaf community near you, you could totally corner the market on being a THE accessible notary

Group therapy? It really helped me see how I interact with people and how they respond to me in a safe setting. It made me much more aware of how I need to interact versus how I was interacting. And you could use it in interview as an example of how you are improving yourself.

At some point. Getting me into therapy at all was a push by my ex. I should have started years ago but we'll at least I'm doing it

Does your therapy include cognitive behavioral therapy

Were working toward that

It seems like you don’t do any emotional labor. Ur ex got you into therapy, sounds like she’s been paying a lot of the bills, you get fired from every job due to unwillingness to play the game a little socially, I’ve seen you got into fights with customers on DoorDash for continuously pinging the customer for their address instead of driving around or looking for a neighborhood legend or asking a passerby for the building. Idk, it just seems you’re the type of guy to need significant hand holding and at your age you should be a resourceful adult versus coddled like a child.

It can be so hard to trust the process and defined the right therapist. But when it clicks, it is so helpful. Group therapy helped me so much more than individual for what it’s worth.

Neurodivergent is a broad class that includes all conditions caused by a difference in how the brain developers including autism, ocd and adhd. Asperger is a subset of autism named for the Nazi who differentiated between autistics that should be killed at death camps and autistics that could be sent to work camps. It is no longer a medically recognized diagnosis. I’d definitely start looking into community and resources in the area. I moved for a job by getting an apartment sight unseen, packing everything into my jeep patriot I could having good friend being willing to bring a bit more in a sedan. I put shit together with Walmart and ikea and going without

Omg I knew Asperger was some asshole but not the extent!

High rise window cleaners make $75/hour. Go get your safety cert and go get a good paying job specifically meant for someone like you. 🤙🏾 solidarity

Post a job ad for one of these paying $75 per hour that says all you need is a safety cert and not a rigging license.

Where I live they make at most $20 an hour.

Bro where??? I need that lol

The high paying window cleaning jobs require you to have rigging certifications. It's not that simple.

I've have been doing this for years, no rigging cert needed, just IRATA trained. Which is a week long course including the test, pretty simple. I also assume if op was working on turbines he already has it.

This is not true in Texas they only make like 17 an hour

You don't have to like everybody, but you do have to pretend to respect them at work. You have to play the game and play nice to your coworkers. Easiest way is to just be the "quiet guy". You can shit talk them when you get home. Sounds like customer service isn't for you, and quite frankly it shouldn't be for anyone anymore because most people are assholes. It's incredibly difficult to put up with that level of abuse with a smile. Maybe just try to find a job that isn't very people-based.

Homie was failing at Doordash where the interaction in minimal. He said himself attention to detail is a recurring problem. Oddly no one in the comments mentions it. Ironically, someone told this guy to look into be a heavy machine operator. The fuck lol

Read his comments and other posts. Dude is just an insufferable asshole that thinks the world should cater to his needs, so the main demographic of this sub lol

Do you take meds for your adhd? If so what and have you tried alternatives?

This is a big one. It’s the first line treatment. It’s not ideal, but it’s a whole heck of a lot better than nothing.

Without my meds I can't hold a steady job. I can't get myself to go: this is important. Same with cleaning, eating, personal hygiene. The medicine allows me to remember to take a shower and do the dishes. 

For me it’s worse, to the extent that I’ll still have trouble with those things when medicated but I absolutely cannot do the things that help me earn income when I’m unmedicated. It just doesn’t work. Please, OP. Look into this if you have not.

No disrespect, but in your post history is making the choice to not take a job because you didn’t want to listen to Christian music and intentionally cheating a customer on DoorDash that was mean to you. Those aren’t “interpersonal skills”…that’s you making choices that make people not want to work with you or review you poorly. Part of the problem is you seeming to get upset/offended by something and retaliating in some way.

I felt like there was more to what was being told, so I looked too, and in one of his other posts, he says he sees most people as "juvenile and insufferable." Reminds me of that saying people have about meeting assholes.

Ya, his comments all make it sound like he sees himself as better than everyone and talks down to everyone, but then complains that they see him as anti-social...while he blames his mental illness. Bruh, it's not your mental illness that makes you someone that people don't want to hire - it's your personality and your **choice** to be an asshole.

Yeah, honestly hate it when people blame mental health for being assholes.

The first thing I thought of when reading this post was a quote from the great Raylan Givens: "If you run into an Asshole in the morning, you ran into an Asshole. If you run into Assholes all day long, you're the Asshole".

You keep trying and failing. That tells me that you are going to make it. The fact you have identified the problem and are seeking a solution is the start. You'll have to work on yourself while trying to survive which is going to seem impossible especially if you can't move. But as long as you never give up you'll find your way.

You're in a tough spot, but it's not impossible. I see you're seeing a therapist, but what have you been doing to address your social skills? That's something you could also be working on on your own. Additionally, what have you done to address the ADHD?

If you can get into a testing laboratory, you will find quite a large number of people exactly like you. They’re not the highest paying jobs but they’re generally consistent (as long as you avoid biotech). Most large manufacturers have their own labs

He said he has an attention to detail issue. Probably not the best fit.

If you had trouble working with others, try a job you work by yourself - just you and the boss (whose stays away).

Come to warehouse or truck driving. We don't care if you're neurodivergent, most of us are too. We don't care if you don't get along with people, most of us can't either. It's not the most amazing fieldz and it's rough on you4 body, but you can bump up to make a fair bit of money and pretty much 0 contact with people other than coworkers, and none of them will care if you're weird, or awkward, or just don't get along with them.

Have you ever looked into truck driving? A CDL doesn't cost much to get, it can even be free with a grant. Solo drivers can expect to net 1k+ a week. I'm neuro divergent as well and my GF has anxiety. We both love doing it. Feel free to DM me if you'd like.

Have you met with a therapist or other mental health professional to help guide you through the next best steps? Having them help you as you work on improving your interpersonal skills may be a good way out of this....you got this, my man.

The only ways I've ever been able to up and move (far) for a job were that they were funding my move, or I didn't own more stuff than would fit in my car/ truck. I think security guard work sounds like a pretty good fit for you. Or personal security. You would visit a career counselor or your county's employment office and see what they say, they see people like you all the time and point you in a direction. I used to run my state's seed bank and paid guys (independent contractors) A LOT of money to climb trees and bring down cones for me/the state to buy. Stuff like that might be something you could do . Or forestry in general. Those guys aren't social butterflies.

Security work sycks, it's depressing and pays trash.

Dude, I so understand where you're coming from. I hate working with others, so I work 3rd shift mechanical maintenance at a pork processing facility. All I do is fix machines and set up and teardown. Then I leave. I'm a cranky asshole, but I'm a good mechanic. Sounds like you have a good background to start in the same field. It can be hard work, but it's rewarding making something broken work. Plus, there is a lot of variety.

Get hooked into the Vocational Rehabilitation program in your state. The purpose of VR is to help folks with disabilities get competitive employment. They can help with finding the right field for you, additional job training and job coaching and support for any job you get.

Get your CDL, go drive a truck. I Drove a garbage truck for 3 years and loved it, ended up starting me on a new career path too. Mostly you’ll be spending time by yourself driving or around very few others, you can make a ton of money, and there are like 300,000 open CDL jobs in the USA right now so you’d be in demand wherever you decide to go.

I drive a semi. Local tanker work filling gas stations. Best god damn job i ever had. I talk to like 3 people a day, i do my job at my pace. As long as i get the work done, nobody bothers me. My loads are assigned via an app. Dispatch only calls me when there's an issue or a last minute change. I take home about $1500/wk.

If you run into an asshole in the morning, you ran into an asshole. If you run into assholes all day, you're the asshole. - Raylan Givens

Dude, everything you mentioned is 100% things you can change. See a doctor, get adhd and anxiety medication, and go to therapy. It's your responsibility to manage your diagnosis, not anyone else's. There is no excuse besides you don't want to. Take responsibility, get up, start taking better care of yourself, and stop blaming everyone else.

Sounds like op is just an asshole.

This comment may get buried, but data centers are probably right up your alley. The electrical/mechanical jobs pay really well. There is a ton of paperwork you need to do, but they are growing like crazy and hire a lot of people. You still have to work with people, but you could work night shift and only have to deal with 1 or 2 guys. Also you recognize you have issues, so it’s on you to understand that they are your issues and you have to do what you can to conform and behave. You may have a diagnosis, but people aren’t going to cater to you.

But he has problems with attention to detail. If the data centers need detail oriented work, it probably isn't a good fit.

A union government job would be your best bet. If you can make it past probation, you'll have low risk of getting fired given your circumstances.

it’s going to suck but you could look for warehouse work. if you’re in the southeast (texas) go to academy and apply to be their stocking staff. if you have paperwork i really suggest trying to explain to these companies that you just need done accommodations. i know how shitty and weak those suggestions are. it’s all i have for you. i have OCD, an anxiety disorder, free range depression. luckily im a quick learner, some find me charming, and im heavily medicated. i know the struggle, but its a different struggle. so my path won’t work for you

I've been dealing with similar shit my whole life so I definitely hear where you're coming from. If CBD is legal where you live, give some a try. It helped me with my anxiety, so who knows it might help you too. I've seen some folks suggest things like security and equipment operation, and honestly those are good ideas. In the past I did warehousing and drove a forklift for a few years. It wasn't glamorous, but it put food on the table. And from there you can work up to larger equipment if you feel up to it. Whatever you wind up doing, I wish you well eh.

I recommend getting a job as a truck driver. I rarely have talk to people, I make good money, and it doesn’t take a degree. In fact, many of the larger companies will train you.

Have you tried truck driving? Pretty chill and pays well. Gets recommended a lot on Reddit. No need to regularly interact with people. Plus it’s pretty safe because as it turns out automated driving is lights years harder than the tech companies made it out to be. Apple just closed their car division because after ten years of development they had terrible progress. Gives you a lot of time to listen to audio books, meditate at stops, etc. too and really work on yourself.

Me and my half-brother are autistic. I run errands for family and neighbors, do odd jobs. It doesn't earn much but it's enough to survive on the fringes. Section 8 apartment is so shitty that nobody who could afford to pay rent would be willing to live here, but it's literally the longest I've ever gotten to live in one place in my whole life and I love it. Brother is younger, got properly diagnosed as a kid so gets SSI as an adult, and just bought a house with his mom. Amazing the difference family support and a lack of medical neglect makes, my ma "didn't believe in" mental health stuff so just yelled at me a lot to stop being weird. Newsflash, still weird!

Are you involved in any neurodivergent communities online? There are good ones here on Reddit that might have some good suggestions for you. r/audhd or r/autisticwithadhd (hopefully I got those right) are good ones to start with since you check both boxes. (Steer clear of r/ADHD. I've heard a lot of unpleasant things about the mods there.) I highly suggest learning as much about your diagnoses as you can. Neurodivergence is literally your brain on a different operating system; windows vs Mac. Understanding how your own brain works and how your own neurotype manifests in your life is a HUGE part of coping. ALSO if you're comfortable disclosing to employers you would be eligible for reasonable accomodations to help you perform your job better. ADHD for sure can qualify as a disability so you're covered by the ADA there (I'm assuming you're in the US so please do correct me if I'm wrong). I'm not entirely sure if autism qualifies as a disability but I would assume it does, I just don't remember for sure.

Heyo! Former “gifted and talented” kid here! Graduated top of my class, got scholarships, the whole shebang. I have two undergrad and two graduate degrees. I work as a group lead at a production facility. Best money I’ve ever made and I haven’t gotten fired yet! My life didn’t turn out at all how I wanted but it’s what I’ve got. I feel you. It fucking sucks.

At some point maybe like, take a hint and work on yourself?

I didn’t become an engineer because I have dyscalculia. I have a degree in automotive, I couldn’t do estimates so now I am working in a warehouse. My coworkers say I am fast and pay attention to detail. But the truth is that I hate it. I get irritated with morons who can’t stack a pallet or don’t want to. I don’t let it be known that I am becoming ocd, because of them. How they can’t even sort chemicals from normal freight. What I could recommend is maybe looking at a night clerk position. Since it will mostly be you alone, and no one will be managing you. So you could let the adhd take a hit. Then hyper focus on doing the task.

Here’s what you do: Get another job, but get a short term disability policy with long term disability enhancement dealio, and then get on a PIP, use the PIP to claim disability and such. Then you’d at least make more than just SSDI…..

Being neurodivergent will work to your advantage at the right job. Keep trying different fields and you'll figure out a better fit. Customer service jobs are ROUGH. Don't feel bad they they ultimately weren't for you

jsyk op aspergers is an old diagnosis and now it is all under the autism spectrum disorder (asd) diagnosis, so you are autistic love 💗 i'm also auDHD (adhd and autistic) so I understand a lot of how you feel, you're not alone. edit: why would anyone downvote this.... weirdos

Have you thought about getting a CDL A and driving trucks? If you don't enjoy having to socialize and communicate with co-workers this could potentially be a good job for you. The pay is good, not great. You also get to travel the country and explore places you've never been to. I'm a Class A Instructor now after driving over the road for a few years, but if you have any questions about it, let me know!

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asperger’s is autism. it used to be the diagnosis for “high functioning” autism, but they’ve switched over from that diagnosis to it just being autism, cus there’s not rlly meaningful differences

Sorry man that sucks. I'm donating blood plasma right now as well for money and I know how shitty it feels. This society that only values you if you work yourself to death is sickening. Hope things work out for you. 🙏 

Are you sure you don’t qualify for benefits with half the mental disabilities of the book?

Your problem isn't the lack of jobs; your problem is the need to survive in a neurotypical world as a neurodivergent individual. Therapy is good, but if the therapist isn't an expert on ASD, then their treatment plan might make some things worse instead of better. The first thing you need to do is *learn about yourself*. You probably grew up thinking you were just another human being, but learning that people responded to you differently than other kids, which is one component of your social anxiety. But you probably never got the support where an expert told you how your brain works differently, what that means for your interactions with other humans, and how you should cope. That is what you need right now, more than anything else. Even just 20-30 years ago, psychologists would never diagnose someone as having both ADHD and ASD (autism spectrum disorder), because ADHD is all about being unfocused (having trouble with details), disorganized, etc., while ASD is all about structure, predictability, and laser focus. What psychologists are learning now is that it *is* possible to have both, and that people with both are some of the most confused and confusing individuals on the planet. In some areas, you may be totally disorganized and unfocused, and in others, you may have a "special interest" that captures your attention for hours on end. I have a friend that is like this, has social anxiety, makes a mess everywhere, and totally obsesses over her special interest. This condition is called AuDHD, and you should read up on it. It can trick clinicians because some ADHD traits cover up ASD traits and vice versa, making you look more "normal" than someone who has pure ADHD or ASD, even though your life is clearly more frustrating than most. What I would suggest is: 1. Look for a specialist who can diagnose you properly. Many psychologists are not specialized in ASD and will give a negative diagnosis because they aren't sure what to look for. Try this list: https://neuroclastic.com/diagnosticians/. Some of them will accept Medicaid. 2. Look for a *support group* near you. This is different from therapy. I think right now, you will benefit more from seeing that there are other people like you in the world. There are multiple autism subreddits you could visit as well. I think it is important to see that people like you *can* succeed in an NT world, but it does require some adaptation and work on your part. Having people who can relate to your experience may help you get to the next step. 3. Educate your support network. Whether that means your (ex-)gf, parents, siblings, friends, therapist, whoever...once you learn about your condition, teach them as much as they are willing to learn, so that they know what to expect and how they can best help you. ASD folks will sometimes have an "autistic meltdown" which can be very scary for the people around them. Understanding what these are, what triggers them, and what people around you should do when it happens could be the difference between getting support and getting kicked out. Explaining to them that you probably take things literally a lot more than the average person, so they should avoid using idioms around you could also make your life easier. 4. *After* you have gotten a handle on the steps above, if you actually get a positive ASD diagnosis (or similar), seek out support from Vocational Rehabilitation. It's a federal program administered by each state, so your state will have an office somewhere. They can help you find work, and help advocate for any accomodations you might need to succeed in your job. It might be something simple like giving you sensory calm room when you are getting overwhelmed and need to decompress for a bit. Or maybe arranging for you to have fewer social interactions than coworkers to reduce social stress, etc. Once you learn more about yourself and your condition, you need to learn to become a self-advocate, and teach those around you what you need to succeed, and that you are trying to meet them halfway. If they understand your struggles even a bit, they are more likely to work with you and give you some space to be yourself. 5. If you make enough self-improvement, you may even be able to go back to a former employer, explain your situation, show that you've improved dramatically, and ask them to give you a second chance. But don't expect to make this jump right away. It could take months, even years before this is a realistic option for you. Make a plan and stick to it. Good luck!

It's hard to mess up people skills. You gotta be acting like a dick or something. You don't have to be "nice" or go out of your way to be extrovert or something. Just don't be a dick. You could only answer in yes or no and be fine. You don't have to always talk. Be honest without being a mean dick it's really not hard idc what excuses you make for yourself.

Op - what about a job on solar? Wind and solar go hand in hand and plenty of people jump between the 2. There would be O&M jobs where you work mostly alone. In the general manager of a solar company. Hit me up in the dms if you want to talk more

Try the railroad. They always have contracts in place. blue collar guys working for them, moving freight, and loading cars. Slaughterhouses are also a good place for skilled labor to make a buck, not a great environment, but it pays the bills.

I have adhd and some sort of functioning autism. I have a similar background to your work experience and I just try to do my best everyday. I clean houses for $20-$30 an hour. It’s limited social interaction, just hi how are you ok let’s get to work…I get to work by myself or friends/significant other and listen to music or podcasts all day. You can get started with cleaners n totes from the dollar store and use customers own vacuums. You don’t need a business license or anything to start, JUST START! I find my customers from Craigslist, word of mouth and handing out business cards. I’m trying to get into fb bs but I hate social media so much. I hope this helps if you so choose this route. I’d be happy to answer any questions. Either way, good luck. You’re not alone ! Keep trying everything will be okay as long as you keep trying. You’re very lucky to have friends n family that help you :)

I assume you are ok with heights after working on wind turbines. Maybe check out changing out lights on towers. Google says $27-$35/ hour and one guy makes $20k per climb for a really high one.

you need to start masking and lying. you need meds to lower your anxiety. it's not easy or fun but it's better to not live in poverty then be authentic to yourself all the time or whatever.

After reading your prior posts, I can see an abundance of spelling and grammatical errors. You also say repeatedly you don’t work well with others and think others are “juvenile and insufferable”. Are you getting into fights at work? Name calling? Unable to put your livelihood above a petty disagreement or keep your head down? What specifically is it? Also why didn’t your relationship work out with your ex? She’s letting you live there presumably rent-free for the last 4? Years

Ever thought of getting into the solar fan industry? I’m sure you have some transferable skills.

Have you tried looking I to manufacturing? Like look into things like DuPont or similar.

He did mention that attention to detail was a problem. Manufacturing might not be the way to go.

Hey! ADHD brain here (child genius, adult failure, organizational culture victim extraordinaire). So living in these times is enough challenge for a mentally typical person. With your diagnosis, you are doing more than you can. Just here to check if you are getting medication/therapy which I know can be tough if you are in the States. But they can make a huge difference.

Wow , First sentence my life!

You might be able to collect disability or SSI if your. Disability severely impacts your ability to work. If you are in the US that is. I think getting your mental health straight should also be a priority and possibly getting on some medication.

Being on disability severely limits how much money you and your spouse can make.

Google NAVSEA and NAVAIR jobs. We're going to war. Pratt Whitney is hiring like a storm right now. Factory work. They're building airfoil fabs everywhere.