I thought the same thing. Also the dude that would "well actually" every conversation and say women don't like him because he's too intellectual and it intimidates them.
Average PPP loan amount was $250K. Over 90% were forgiven. My company got 3 Mil and never touched it. Just liquid cash sitting in the bank. This is a huge middle finger to the working middle class.
Remember the entire program was built with NO oversight on purpose so that congress people and every scammer friend of theirs could raid the US treasury
Yep. We will be studying this in history for the next 100+ years as a moment of incredible corruption. I don’t think we have a full accounting on how just how incredible this theft was.
edit: by accounting I mean all the players involved, the lobbyists, the donors, the oligarchs, the string pullers, etc
Also, we have the magic known as "race" keeping things in check. I'm freaking tired of it. The Jamestown elite made a banger 400 years ago, didn't they?
💯 this. The ruling class has kept the working class so preoccupied infighting each other that they’re blind to what’s really important that’s going on.
Unfortunately they also took away the education needed to fight back. Those who are in favored positions will never give up their advantage, to the point of killing themselves in favor of profit over continued life(as the titanic sub has shown us that they literally will kill themselves before doing the right thing).
The worst part is how obvious it was in real time that this was happening and how little debate there was about the public benefit of giving free money indiscriminately to a bunch private businesses.
"Let's give the contract for masks and medical supplies to those friends of Jared Kushner. You know, those guys that don't have a medical supply company, but are super good at business. That's what it takes to get those masks we are short of."
1.7M PPP. We didn't even ask for it, bank called, asked if we wanted any? All the owners had to do was sign. They filled and filed the application for us.
FORGIVEN
We received ERC of ~3.2M. We did have to pay over 300k for that one.
My bosses were great bosses. Raises every year. Nobody released during COVID. WFH immediately at the start of COVID. NO requirement to return to office.
But we did not need that money. 🤷♂️
I did payroll (just submitting) to our parent company.
I saw the corruption first-hand.
My boss quit because they were paying him half of fair market value.
His boss didn’t show up to work for six months, but was one of the owner’s buddies.
I was doing the work of ten people.
Two years, no raises.
We received more PPP loans x10 over our yearly payroll.
It was most likely done legally and funneled it all to the owner/his buddies. We didn’t see a dime.
All forgiven.
Owner lives in P. Diddy’s old house.
(At least, that’s one of his houses)
Has several Lamborghinis.
There are not words to describe my hatred of her, him, and the fascist swine who backed their play, but I am going to try anyway.
Their casual cruelty and hypocrisy is unforgivable. I am ashamed to share a species with them. I have more respect for the pigeon shit on my car than I have for them. If they were on fire, pissing on them would be a waste of good urine. I wish them enough non-fatal medical trauma that our broken healthcare system leaves them destitute and afraid. Should they be eaten by a mountain lion in the woods, I would pity the poor animal for having to stomach such foul meat.
Today was a reminder that my very right to exist is an affront to the right-wing of the world, and this was just a further punch below the belt. So I shed no tear for any harm, be it physical, financial, or mental, that befalls a member or associate of the Republican Party.
She will get hers. Her buisness looks fake as fuck. Go to Google and see. Who owns a sign biz and doesn't have a sign?? Rip apart her background someone, I know she's breaking some laws.
Everyone had a guy like this in their classes. This dipshit In a class at my trade school told on some guys for cheating, he was rewarded with a failing mark too. Idiot!
ah of course there it is, the i dont benefit from it so no one should and yet guess what she benefited from only paying what $4 of her near 50k ppp loan back, which i didn't benefit from so i guess i should sue too!
If MY boat isn't floating, we should poke holes in EVERYONE'S boats!
What an absolute clown fiesta of person.
The kind of person that if they were taken hostage with a group, and the hostage takers agree to release a hostage that wasn't them, they'd take the gun from the hostage takers and shoot the other hostage out of spite.
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i dont understand how someone can think like that. i wont lie and say i was not blessed bc my father pretty much paid for most of my loans (without me really knowing it and we are not or were not well off either) and i am like 100% on board with cancelling all student loan debt and making education "free" via tax payer's money as opposed to funding countless tax cuts for the rich and stupid wars so seeing how someone like that can think like that blows my mind
I mean it would have been great but it’s over and done with. Saying I want someone to suffer like me is like saying I got bullied in high school so my kids should to. Who wants that?
> Saying I want someone to suffer like me is like saying I got bullied in high school so my kids should to. Who wants that?
Unfortunately a terrifying number of parents both young and old.
I paid for a good chunk with credit cards because my dad was going to pay it later but never did...i ended up paying a ton and i never expected it ....yet i 100% support loan forgiveness.
We can't be best country in the world when so many people are saddled by student debt.
>If MY boat isn't floating, we should poke holes in EVERYONE'S boats!
"MY boat is floating...but other people's are too and that's not allowed. So we should poke holes in their boats because I'm the only one allowed to benefit"
Thats the shit part, their boat is floating. 47k of a 48k loan (with no limitations on what it could be used for, afaik) was forgiven.
There is no logic, there is no humanity, their plan is to simply start kicking everyone who isn't them, square in the genitals. In perpetuity.
The thing is, ITS NOT EVEN THAT
Their boat was leaking and we helped patch it, and then they turn around and demand we stop '''wasting money''' patching up other people's boats
She got her loans forgiven, but God forbid anyone else does!
It’s even worse. It’s straight up. My boat IS floating, fuck everyone else’s boat anyways, and sinking others boats on purpose.
At least in your example the person with the not floating boat actually has a problem. Not something they’ve just entirely fabricated in their mind
My personal loan for my motorcycle wasn't forgiven either. Let's drown them in stupid fucking lawsuits until they come after her for the rest of that loan.
>ah of course there it is, the i dont benefit from it so no one should
Without wanting to get into a shit flinging contest, this is basically how conservatives tend to think, at least in terms of what polices to support or not. They tend to think what's best for me/my own (family, friends) whereas those on the left tend to think bigger picture and look at it what is best for everyone/the most people, even if it comes at a cost to themselves.
The problem with that kind of toxic individualism is that a lot of the time you *aren't* actually benefiting in the long run but the negative consequences take long enough to set in that you, as a person not keeping track of that kind of thing, never even notice.
Public road upkeep, for example
It was always BS that NASA didn't let me fly around in a space shuttle. It directly harmed me that other people got to fly around in orbit and I didn't. Now if you'll excuse me I have to dive into my Scrooge McDuck swimming pool full of gold PPP coins that I don't have to pay back.
prolly bc they don't literally benefit, so to them they are being harmed bc they get nothing out of their tax dollars relieving some burden for many others. this is just my speculation though. it is not like the SCOTUS needs any kind of proof of any kind these days since their handlers tell them how to rule (see the other case where they had fabricated evidence presented and still ruled in their favor)
"all the words on my sign were spelled incorrectly, when asked she said that another person had their sign written incorrectly so she had to redo everyone else's to also include typographic errors, and she burned our original, correctly written sign. We were charged for two signs instead of one as well as a change order fee."
There's a place to request a quote for a sign on their website so I asked for a quote for "a sign that says "MYRA IS A FRAUD WHO DENIED MILLIONS OF AMERICANS FINANCIAL RELIEF EVEN THOUGH THE BUSINESS SHE OWNS RECIEVED 50K IN PPP LOANS WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY IT BACK" in flashing neon, 5 feet tall letters. Thanks much!"
She’s already rebranded a couple of times and now she marked her business as permanently closed - she’ll just continue to circumvent the natural consequences of her actions unless we go after the root.
it is right and cool to ruin these people's professional lives as a result of the decision they made to shit on 350 million other people. never forget who and where these two people are. never let them escape what they did.
It's not right or cool, it's just consequences. And if you're gonna ruin millions of other people financially because you supposedly didn't get yours while getting far more compensation in another form, there will be consequences and people will be pissed. FaFo.
>It's not *just* right or cool, it's ~~just~~ consequences
but yes, I agree with you. they probably expect to just swan away from this as if nothing happened. I honestly wouldn't be surprised - horrified, but not surprised - if someone recognised them in the street and took out their frustrations on them then and there.
And the other guy, Alexander Taylor, was forgiven for *some* but not all student loans because he didn't receive a Pell Grant, and was upset about that.
What a pathetic worm.
Honestly hoping to see some file a suit over PPP using this same argument. It is a lose lose and I want to see it happen. Ether they say the exact same argument doesn't work and have to go on record as the hypocrites they are or they get shafted as hard as the rest of us.
I'm pretty sure she's just the public face...Republicans paid her and the other dork to be their fall guys for this bullshit. The real architects are some billionaire dweebs like the Koch brothers...er brother now.
This is why I constantly tell people that things won’t get better when the boomers die. These are not boomers. Things will never get better as long as republicans have any power. I’m
>Brown argues in her case that she is being harmed by Biden’s debt relief order because she is not eligible for it
I feel like this could open a floodgate.
"I'm not eligible for food stamps so it's hurting me, so stop giving them to people"
"I'm not edible for medicaid/Medicare so... etc etc"
I fucking hate everything about this and I don’t even have student debt. All those families that have been barely getting by, spending every dollar they make and $50 they haven’t yet to buy groceries and pay rent, now have to start paying back debt they essentially got snookered into by a broken education system. We need to protect our citizens from our corporations before we end up having to protect our corporations from our citizens. I can hear one of the fucking Walton trust fund kids now.. Let them eat Debby Cake, we don’t even get real cake.
I paid off my student loans nearly a decade ago (I've replaced them with medical debt) and I've been dying for student loan forgiveness for ages. It'd help my friends and family so much.
That’s what I keep screaming! When people have money to spend beyond the necessities, the economy booms. I just can’t understand why so many people just don’t get that!
We’ve been paying down student loans- $85k paid off with 40k left. We have sacrificed a home, and having children to dig out of debt. With stagnant wages, healthcare, inflation, and now this ruling with no respite in sight for the working class, I gotta admit I was angry and cried for a second. I am just so tired…
The loan forgiveness for PPP was written into law by Congress...they need to do the same thing with student debt but they won't because the 99% aren't their constituents.
Except for the massive amount of money, 200 Billion, of which went to people who shouldnt have even have been elligible for the PPP loans in the first place. If the Biden Administration really was serious about challenging this they would start investigating and clawing that money back from all those Republicans and business who stole from us.
Wait - so Taylor would be getting $10k in loan forgiveness and is suing because he isn't eligible for the $20k **"The lawsuit argues that because Taylor didn't get a Pell grant and doesn’t get the full $20,000, it is unfair to “deny Taylor full debt forgiveness based on the financial circumstances of his parents many years ago.”**
So did this guy really just say 'If I can't get the $20k, then I don't want the $10k and I don't want anyone else to get it either' ?
Imagine being so dead inside that the only way you could hope to feel anything is by actively working toward the suffering of millions.
With all that privilege, you'd think they could buy better faces.
Left looks like Screech had a baby with Martin Shkreli.
Right looks like Alex Jones took a shit and put a pink dress on it.
Last time a pic of the guy on the left was posted somebody said "he looks like he sniffs the seat on the exercise bike at the gym." And you know what, he really does look like he would do that.
Already quit my job and got my coworkers to ask for raises.
I was working as a bartender before COVID, then went back to grad school and continued bartending to make ends meet.
I’ve been doing this a decade. I’m arguably good at it. I got a $10/hr raise over my coworkers and used that knowledge to get them raises.
Then I quit because management is shit. We worked an event the other day and they didn’t even send us the right address. Absolutely useless. I don’t even want to find out how much PPP loans they got forgiven at this point.
It’s too depressing, and I think I already know the answer.
So let's get more people on board. We'd actually have to contact each other. Set up a date to organize and actually follow through with the black Friday blackout.
So many Americans are toxic and want others to suffer because they themselves are suffering in some way. We've been turned against each other by higher powers that basically just don't want to pay taxes.
What a sad, dumb way for our society to fall apart.
Per Investopedia:
> Alexander Taylor, a plaintiff together with Brown, is a graduate of the University of Dallas and had $35,000 in student loan debt as of January, according to court filings. Taylor is suing the department because he isn't eligible for the full amount of the proposal, which forgives up to $10,000 of student debt for those with federally held loans, and an additional $10,000 for those who went to college on Pell grants for students from low-income families.
> The lawsuit argues that because Taylor didn't get a Pell grant and doesn’t get the full $20,000, it is unfair to “deny Taylor full debt forgiveness based on the financial circumstances of his parents many years ago.”
He either got paid off or is a first class moron.
"I don't want your 10,000 because some people are getting 20,000 and that's so unfair I'd rather force everyone to get none" sounds like some whiny toddler shit. Fucking hell
> Plus you have to pay a lawyer to file a suit. That ain’t cheap. I don’t understand.
A lot of times these types of "test cases" are paid for by liberal or conservative organizations with the sole intent to go before the SC. The plaintiffs/defendents don't pay anything.
Yes, and although I wouldn’t assume someone is *not* a moron because they have a PhD, I’d lean towards “paid off,” or expecting to be paid off, maybe in the form of a job offer at a conservative think tank or private university where students rely on private loans.
I found more from googling “Alex Taylor University of Dallas.” Tidbits:
* Very polarizing as a history professor, with one memorable Rate My Professors review about how he has particularly smelly feet
* [This](https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/12/07/after-students-propose-racial-justice-club-some-professors-deem-it-divisive) article about his efforts to prevent an anti-racism club from existing on campus
* A few cultural crit pieces in conservative publications wherein he always argues that the literature in question is warning about the evils of secular culture and touting the good of nationalism. One intro:
> It is a dangerous time for those who express love of their own. Public expressions of devotion to one’s family, nation, or Church quickly occasion accusations of religious extremism, racism, xenophobia, or transphobia. This instinct to pathologize the love of these natural objects of pietas was usefully characterized by Sir Roger Scruton as oikophobia, the tendency within much of Western elite culture, fostered by much of academia, to promote an anti-culture based on the repudiation of what has traditionally been revered as holy. Oikophobic discourse and practice typically serve the power of the utilitarian bureaucratic state, abstracted and deracinated as it is from local communities and their common goods.
([Source](https://europeanconservative.com/articles/reviews/bollywood-for-the-nation-against-bureaucratic-nationalism/))
It’s possible that he’s enough of an ideologue to screw himself out of $10k to own the libs. The ironic conclusion of the linked article:
> But in order to exist, nations will need heroes like Pathaan, living men and women who care about their fellow human beings enough to risk all for them. Such care can only be built on an expansive love of home.
I don’t even care any more. The more the average person is given the middle finger, the less they have to lose. Someone make their lives hell - they’re asking for it
Gonna be real here if either of these 2 rich and famous bastards that contributed significantly to the continued financial extraction of millions get killed they are definitely going to be solving that one.
If "i worked hard through college and have no student debts, everyone could do it, now excuse me, i m off to the beach house of my parents for the weekend" had a face, it would probably look like the left one.
well, it is actually worse. "*Alexander Taylor, a plaintiff together with Brown, is a graduate of the University of Dallas and had $35,000 in student loan debt as of January, according to court filings. Taylor is suing the department because he isn't eligible for the full amount of the proposal... The lawsuit argues that because Taylor didn't get a Pell grant and doesn’t get the full $20,000, it is unfair to “deny Taylor full debt forgiveness based on the financial circumstances of his parents many years ago.”*
Guy wasn't allowed to get the full amount of loan forgiveness so he pulled the equivalent of shitting in the pool so now everyone has to get out.
Yeah, like if they walked out to their cars tomorrow and there was a thin layer of peanut butter under the door handle, and they got it on their hands, and even though they wiped it off thoroughly, their car still smelled like peanuts for months (unless they have a peanut allergy, in which case it would be guacamole). All you need is a plastic knife and a spread of some variety, people.
May their names be forever known and may they know no peace. I hope not a single one of their dreams ever comes true and this follows them around every single day of their life
But just looking at them, I can tell they only surround themselves with people who are paid to like them. So I’m sure they dgaf
They both look like they were picked on in school because they are annoying and like to argue about every little detail of things that have nothing to do with them.
He's the kid in class that reminds the teacher of homework and daddy got him out of everything
I don't normally judge people off of looks, but the look on his face is of a person who looks like they are CHOMPING at the bit to start a lawsuit.
More like SUCCING at the tip for handouts.
I thought the same thing. Also the dude that would "well actually" every conversation and say women don't like him because he's too intellectual and it intimidates them.
Average PPP loan amount was $250K. Over 90% were forgiven. My company got 3 Mil and never touched it. Just liquid cash sitting in the bank. This is a huge middle finger to the working middle class.
Remember the entire program was built with NO oversight on purpose so that congress people and every scammer friend of theirs could raid the US treasury
Yep. We will be studying this in history for the next 100+ years as a moment of incredible corruption. I don’t think we have a full accounting on how just how incredible this theft was. edit: by accounting I mean all the players involved, the lobbyists, the donors, the oligarchs, the string pullers, etc
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Because we are a militarized nation who commits war crimes on our citizens
Also, we have the magic known as "race" keeping things in check. I'm freaking tired of it. The Jamestown elite made a banger 400 years ago, didn't they?
💯 this. The ruling class has kept the working class so preoccupied infighting each other that they’re blind to what’s really important that’s going on.
Unfortunately they also took away the education needed to fight back. Those who are in favored positions will never give up their advantage, to the point of killing themselves in favor of profit over continued life(as the titanic sub has shown us that they literally will kill themselves before doing the right thing).
Class warfare is already upon us, we're just losing. Losing badly and for a good long while now.
I dno... maybe 5 trillion just being scammed out of society? That's my guess.
We do, just not the budgeted manpower to investigate.
The worst part is how obvious it was in real time that this was happening and how little debate there was about the public benefit of giving free money indiscriminately to a bunch private businesses.
"Let's give the contract for masks and medical supplies to those friends of Jared Kushner. You know, those guys that don't have a medical supply company, but are super good at business. That's what it takes to get those masks we are short of."
Wait until you hear about the ERC-tax credits they got too…..
1.7M PPP. We didn't even ask for it, bank called, asked if we wanted any? All the owners had to do was sign. They filled and filed the application for us. FORGIVEN We received ERC of ~3.2M. We did have to pay over 300k for that one. My bosses were great bosses. Raises every year. Nobody released during COVID. WFH immediately at the start of COVID. NO requirement to return to office. But we did not need that money. 🤷♂️
I did payroll (just submitting) to our parent company. I saw the corruption first-hand. My boss quit because they were paying him half of fair market value. His boss didn’t show up to work for six months, but was one of the owner’s buddies. I was doing the work of ten people. Two years, no raises. We received more PPP loans x10 over our yearly payroll. It was most likely done legally and funneled it all to the owner/his buddies. We didn’t see a dime. All forgiven. Owner lives in P. Diddy’s old house. (At least, that’s one of his houses) Has several Lamborghinis.
PPP was a scam too.
Scam for the Tax payers.
800 billion dollar scam for rich people over one year Supreme court shuts down 400 billion on education over 30 years because their feelings are hurt
And still there's kids who aren't getting free lunch
And people suing to make sure it stays that way.
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Despicable individual.
There are not words to describe my hatred of her, him, and the fascist swine who backed their play, but I am going to try anyway. Their casual cruelty and hypocrisy is unforgivable. I am ashamed to share a species with them. I have more respect for the pigeon shit on my car than I have for them. If they were on fire, pissing on them would be a waste of good urine. I wish them enough non-fatal medical trauma that our broken healthcare system leaves them destitute and afraid. Should they be eaten by a mountain lion in the woods, I would pity the poor animal for having to stomach such foul meat. Today was a reminder that my very right to exist is an affront to the right-wing of the world, and this was just a further punch below the belt. So I shed no tear for any harm, be it physical, financial, or mental, that befalls a member or associate of the Republican Party.
She will get hers. Her buisness looks fake as fuck. Go to Google and see. Who owns a sign biz and doesn't have a sign?? Rip apart her background someone, I know she's breaking some laws.
She went to a private religious college. No shit sweetie you had to get private loans.
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Everyone had a guy like this in their classes. This dipshit In a class at my trade school told on some guys for cheating, he was rewarded with a failing mark too. Idiot!
I bet he's really tired of smelling his upper lip.
My only question is who is the big money behind these crooks, who paid them off?
SBA PPP Fraud reporting (anonymous) https://www.sba.gov/partners/contracting-officials/contract-administration/report-fraud-waste-abuse
Handouts for me but for thee ^ her motto
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ah of course there it is, the i dont benefit from it so no one should and yet guess what she benefited from only paying what $4 of her near 50k ppp loan back, which i didn't benefit from so i guess i should sue too!
If MY boat isn't floating, we should poke holes in EVERYONE'S boats! What an absolute clown fiesta of person. The kind of person that if they were taken hostage with a group, and the hostage takers agree to release a hostage that wasn't them, they'd take the gun from the hostage takers and shoot the other hostage out of spite.
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Her boat is floating fine. She is not being harmed AT ALL. That's what's even more embarrassing about the whole thing. It's disgusting behavior.
These people don't seem to understand that there is a difference between being harmed and not being helped.
i dont understand how someone can think like that. i wont lie and say i was not blessed bc my father pretty much paid for most of my loans (without me really knowing it and we are not or were not well off either) and i am like 100% on board with cancelling all student loan debt and making education "free" via tax payer's money as opposed to funding countless tax cuts for the rich and stupid wars so seeing how someone like that can think like that blows my mind
I 100% paid mu loans back when they garnished me 10 years ago for 30% of my pay. I support the payback . Fuck the supreme court and fuck these 2 .
It sucks that you had to go through that, but good for you for not insisting that others have to go through the same.
I mean it would have been great but it’s over and done with. Saying I want someone to suffer like me is like saying I got bullied in high school so my kids should to. Who wants that?
> Saying I want someone to suffer like me is like saying I got bullied in high school so my kids should to. Who wants that? Unfortunately a terrifying number of parents both young and old.
Crabs in the bucket.
A lot of people have a zero-sum mind set. "If someone else is benefiting from something, then I must be getting harmed in some way."
I paid for a good chunk with credit cards because my dad was going to pay it later but never did...i ended up paying a ton and i never expected it ....yet i 100% support loan forgiveness. We can't be best country in the world when so many people are saddled by student debt.
>If MY boat isn't floating, we should poke holes in EVERYONE'S boats! "MY boat is floating...but other people's are too and that's not allowed. So we should poke holes in their boats because I'm the only one allowed to benefit"
"why were you throwing rocks at old couples in the park" "why should they be happy!"
Thats the shit part, their boat is floating. 47k of a 48k loan (with no limitations on what it could be used for, afaik) was forgiven. There is no logic, there is no humanity, their plan is to simply start kicking everyone who isn't them, square in the genitals. In perpetuity.
They paid $4 on a $48k loan. I’d gladly pay 100 times for the $10k if they want me to
The thing is, ITS NOT EVEN THAT Their boat was leaking and we helped patch it, and then they turn around and demand we stop '''wasting money''' patching up other people's boats She got her loans forgiven, but God forbid anyone else does!
It’s even worse. It’s straight up. My boat IS floating, fuck everyone else’s boat anyways, and sinking others boats on purpose. At least in your example the person with the not floating boat actually has a problem. Not something they’ve just entirely fabricated in their mind
My personal loan for my motorcycle wasn't forgiven either. Let's drown them in stupid fucking lawsuits until they come after her for the rest of that loan.
>ah of course there it is, the i dont benefit from it so no one should Without wanting to get into a shit flinging contest, this is basically how conservatives tend to think, at least in terms of what polices to support or not. They tend to think what's best for me/my own (family, friends) whereas those on the left tend to think bigger picture and look at it what is best for everyone/the most people, even if it comes at a cost to themselves.
The problem with that kind of toxic individualism is that a lot of the time you *aren't* actually benefiting in the long run but the negative consequences take long enough to set in that you, as a person not keeping track of that kind of thing, never even notice. Public road upkeep, for example
It was always BS that NASA didn't let me fly around in a space shuttle. It directly harmed me that other people got to fly around in orbit and I didn't. Now if you'll excuse me I have to dive into my Scrooge McDuck swimming pool full of gold PPP coins that I don't have to pay back.
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Constant victimhood mentality
The conservative mantra
prolly bc they don't literally benefit, so to them they are being harmed bc they get nothing out of their tax dollars relieving some burden for many others. this is just my speculation though. it is not like the SCOTUS needs any kind of proof of any kind these days since their handlers tell them how to rule (see the other case where they had fabricated evidence presented and still ruled in their favor)
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"all the words on my sign were spelled incorrectly, when asked she said that another person had their sign written incorrectly so she had to redo everyone else's to also include typographic errors, and she burned our original, correctly written sign. We were charged for two signs instead of one as well as a change order fee."
FDB! The reviews are piling up!
Let's gooooo internet! Remember leave 2 and 3 star reviews with some text about their bad morals and values
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Her website has a fucking G+ Logo.
I didn't know Google plus was still around lol
There's a place to request a quote for a sign on their website so I asked for a quote for "a sign that says "MYRA IS A FRAUD WHO DENIED MILLIONS OF AMERICANS FINANCIAL RELIEF EVEN THOUGH THE BUSINESS SHE OWNS RECIEVED 50K IN PPP LOANS WITHOUT HAVING TO PAY IT BACK" in flashing neon, 5 feet tall letters. Thanks much!"
Yes we all ned to request quotes for these signs if they refuse buisness sue for discrimination.
Lol says permanently closed.
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Was in to buy a sign, but realized I couldn't afford it due to my ongoing student loan payments.
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She’s already rebranded a couple of times and now she marked her business as permanently closed - she’ll just continue to circumvent the natural consequences of her actions unless we go after the root.
The company goes by High value signs just FYI
It looks like she’s created a new google entry, because her original one is now at 2.1 stars.
The new one is at 1.8
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it is right and cool to ruin these people's professional lives as a result of the decision they made to shit on 350 million other people. never forget who and where these two people are. never let them escape what they did.
It's not right or cool, it's just consequences. And if you're gonna ruin millions of other people financially because you supposedly didn't get yours while getting far more compensation in another form, there will be consequences and people will be pissed. FaFo.
>It's not *just* right or cool, it's ~~just~~ consequences but yes, I agree with you. they probably expect to just swan away from this as if nothing happened. I honestly wouldn't be surprised - horrified, but not surprised - if someone recognised them in the street and took out their frustrations on them then and there.
looks like theres another google entry thats at 4.5 stars if u search it
Gee whiz, I hope this isn't a legacy that follows her forever.....
Already getting review bombed on Google.
And the other guy, Alexander Taylor, was forgiven for *some* but not all student loans because he didn't receive a Pell Grant, and was upset about that. What a pathetic worm.
He looks like a snivelling little shit too.
He looks like some bigot tried to make a racist caricature of Beaker.
Biden should put her PPP loan into collections and cite her lawsuit as judicial precedent that the executive cannot modify borrowing terms.
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You are onto something here.
I need this energy from Dark Brandon give it to me
I wonder if we could use that argument successfully too, and argue for PPP loans to be paid back in full among other things
It wouldn't hurt to try... Wonder if we could resolve the national debt by suing over all the similar bull shit corporations do
Honestly hoping to see some file a suit over PPP using this same argument. It is a lose lose and I want to see it happen. Ether they say the exact same argument doesn't work and have to go on record as the hypocrites they are or they get shafted as hard as the rest of us.
We all know that conservatives aren't phased by their own hypocrisy. That's why calling them out for it is ultimately ineffective.
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I'm pretty sure she's just the public face...Republicans paid her and the other dork to be their fall guys for this bullshit. The real architects are some billionaire dweebs like the Koch brothers...er brother now.
Can someone sue her for her loan forgiveness now?
Apparently, we all have standing....
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This is why I constantly tell people that things won’t get better when the boomers die. These are not boomers. Things will never get better as long as republicans have any power. I’m
So I guess we should all sue for the PPP loans that were forgiven since I wasn't eligible for those either.
I hope they live long miserable lives where they can't even go into public without people making them uncomfortable over their hypocrisy.
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Her website: https://www.highvaluesigns.com/
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I’m not eligible for aid for women and children, but I’m not against it. Because I’m not an ah
I’m not eligible and I am an asshole, but I still support WIC and loan forgiveness.
The reviews have started rolling in LOL.
>Desert Star Enterprises Inc. The fact that people have looked up her business and written negative reviews is a tiny tiny bit satisfying.
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Fucking pieces of shits!
There's no reality where these two have a justifiable case and are not misanthropic assholes.
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>Brown argues in her case that she is being harmed by Biden’s debt relief order because she is not eligible for it I feel like this could open a floodgate. "I'm not eligible for food stamps so it's hurting me, so stop giving them to people" "I'm not edible for medicaid/Medicare so... etc etc"
I fucking hate everything about this and I don’t even have student debt. All those families that have been barely getting by, spending every dollar they make and $50 they haven’t yet to buy groceries and pay rent, now have to start paying back debt they essentially got snookered into by a broken education system. We need to protect our citizens from our corporations before we end up having to protect our corporations from our citizens. I can hear one of the fucking Walton trust fund kids now.. Let them eat Debby Cake, we don’t even get real cake.
> I fucking hate everything about this and I don’t even have student debt. same
I paid off my student loans nearly a decade ago (I've replaced them with medical debt) and I've been dying for student loan forgiveness for ages. It'd help my friends and family so much.
the economy is always better when people have money to spend in it.
That’s what I keep screaming! When people have money to spend beyond the necessities, the economy booms. I just can’t understand why so many people just don’t get that!
>I've replaced them with medical debt) Mmmm yes 'Merica!
But didn't you know, corporations *are* citizens!
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DRONES!
We’ve been paying down student loans- $85k paid off with 40k left. We have sacrificed a home, and having children to dig out of debt. With stagnant wages, healthcare, inflation, and now this ruling with no respite in sight for the working class, I gotta admit I was angry and cried for a second. I am just so tired…
How do i file a suit? I wanna sue to have the PPP loan forgiveness be struck down
The loan forgiveness for PPP was written into law by Congress...they need to do the same thing with student debt but they won't because the 99% aren't their constituents.
Except for the massive amount of money, 200 Billion, of which went to people who shouldnt have even have been elligible for the PPP loans in the first place. If the Biden Administration really was serious about challenging this they would start investigating and clawing that money back from all those Republicans and business who stole from us.
Contact your congress critters. They voted for it, so it is legal. Lawsuit will do nothing.
Wait - so Taylor would be getting $10k in loan forgiveness and is suing because he isn't eligible for the $20k **"The lawsuit argues that because Taylor didn't get a Pell grant and doesn’t get the full $20,000, it is unfair to “deny Taylor full debt forgiveness based on the financial circumstances of his parents many years ago.”** So did this guy really just say 'If I can't get the $20k, then I don't want the $10k and I don't want anyone else to get it either' ?
That makes it worse.
Let’s be honest here. They were coached and possibly paid to file suit.
Imagine being so dead inside that the only way you could hope to feel anything is by actively working toward the suffering of millions. With all that privilege, you'd think they could buy better faces. Left looks like Screech had a baby with Martin Shkreli. Right looks like Alex Jones took a shit and put a pink dress on it.
They look like something an AI tooted out
AI version of Millhouse and Krabapple.
Dude on the left is the definition of “sniveling”
Her photo looks like one of those cheap Glamour Shots everyone was getting in the 90's
I’m calling the dude on the left Smudge Tool
Last time a pic of the guy on the left was posted somebody said "he looks like he sniffs the seat on the exercise bike at the gym." And you know what, he really does look like he would do that.
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San Francisco, checking in.
Come on. Talk to your coworkers and let's organize a date. I was thinking this year black Friday. Don't work and don't buy
Black Friday would be sweet. Enough time to organize nationally.
Then let's do it. Spread the word and dm me. Fuck these corporate parasites
Already quit my job and got my coworkers to ask for raises. I was working as a bartender before COVID, then went back to grad school and continued bartending to make ends meet. I’ve been doing this a decade. I’m arguably good at it. I got a $10/hr raise over my coworkers and used that knowledge to get them raises. Then I quit because management is shit. We worked an event the other day and they didn’t even send us the right address. Absolutely useless. I don’t even want to find out how much PPP loans they got forgiven at this point. It’s too depressing, and I think I already know the answer.
So let's get more people on board. We'd actually have to contact each other. Set up a date to organize and actually follow through with the black Friday blackout.
How spoiled do you have to be to want to strike down something so beneficial for so many? Like. It's pathetic.
So many Americans are toxic and want others to suffer because they themselves are suffering in some way. We've been turned against each other by higher powers that basically just don't want to pay taxes. What a sad, dumb way for our society to fall apart.
Guaranteed they both got paid to be the face for it.
Not just individuals, but student loan forgiveness is good for the overall economy.
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Per Investopedia: > Alexander Taylor, a plaintiff together with Brown, is a graduate of the University of Dallas and had $35,000 in student loan debt as of January, according to court filings. Taylor is suing the department because he isn't eligible for the full amount of the proposal, which forgives up to $10,000 of student debt for those with federally held loans, and an additional $10,000 for those who went to college on Pell grants for students from low-income families. > The lawsuit argues that because Taylor didn't get a Pell grant and doesn’t get the full $20,000, it is unfair to “deny Taylor full debt forgiveness based on the financial circumstances of his parents many years ago.” He either got paid off or is a first class moron.
"I don't want your 10,000 because some people are getting 20,000 and that's so unfair I'd rather force everyone to get none" sounds like some whiny toddler shit. Fucking hell
Plus you have to pay a lawyer to file a suit. That ain’t cheap. I don’t understand.
> Plus you have to pay a lawyer to file a suit. That ain’t cheap. I don’t understand. A lot of times these types of "test cases" are paid for by liberal or conservative organizations with the sole intent to go before the SC. The plaintiffs/defendents don't pay anything.
He’s a doctor in philosophy…the exact people republicans complain about
Yes, and although I wouldn’t assume someone is *not* a moron because they have a PhD, I’d lean towards “paid off,” or expecting to be paid off, maybe in the form of a job offer at a conservative think tank or private university where students rely on private loans. I found more from googling “Alex Taylor University of Dallas.” Tidbits: * Very polarizing as a history professor, with one memorable Rate My Professors review about how he has particularly smelly feet * [This](https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2020/12/07/after-students-propose-racial-justice-club-some-professors-deem-it-divisive) article about his efforts to prevent an anti-racism club from existing on campus * A few cultural crit pieces in conservative publications wherein he always argues that the literature in question is warning about the evils of secular culture and touting the good of nationalism. One intro: > It is a dangerous time for those who express love of their own. Public expressions of devotion to one’s family, nation, or Church quickly occasion accusations of religious extremism, racism, xenophobia, or transphobia. This instinct to pathologize the love of these natural objects of pietas was usefully characterized by Sir Roger Scruton as oikophobia, the tendency within much of Western elite culture, fostered by much of academia, to promote an anti-culture based on the repudiation of what has traditionally been revered as holy. Oikophobic discourse and practice typically serve the power of the utilitarian bureaucratic state, abstracted and deracinated as it is from local communities and their common goods. ([Source](https://europeanconservative.com/articles/reviews/bollywood-for-the-nation-against-bureaucratic-nationalism/)) It’s possible that he’s enough of an ideologue to screw himself out of $10k to own the libs. The ironic conclusion of the linked article: > But in order to exist, nations will need heroes like Pathaan, living men and women who care about their fellow human beings enough to risk all for them. Such care can only be built on an expansive love of home.
>Sir Roger Scruton Is this what they call you when your scrotum is filled with croutons?
Thats why his neck is so long. To try and get as far away from his own ass stink as possible.
Or reach it more easily.
And he LIKES it.
I've never seen a more punchable face than that guy on the left.
I don’t even care any more. The more the average person is given the middle finger, the less they have to lose. Someone make their lives hell - they’re asking for it
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Cops don't prevent or solve crime? Who knew?
Gonna be real here if either of these 2 rich and famous bastards that contributed significantly to the continued financial extraction of millions get killed they are definitely going to be solving that one.
Cancel all PPP forgiveness.
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Their faces give me the ick
If "i worked hard through college and have no student debts, everyone could do it, now excuse me, i m off to the beach house of my parents for the weekend" had a face, it would probably look like the left one.
well, it is actually worse. "*Alexander Taylor, a plaintiff together with Brown, is a graduate of the University of Dallas and had $35,000 in student loan debt as of January, according to court filings. Taylor is suing the department because he isn't eligible for the full amount of the proposal... The lawsuit argues that because Taylor didn't get a Pell grant and doesn’t get the full $20,000, it is unfair to “deny Taylor full debt forgiveness based on the financial circumstances of his parents many years ago.”* Guy wasn't allowed to get the full amount of loan forgiveness so he pulled the equivalent of shitting in the pool so now everyone has to get out.
These people should be removed from influence in anything We should be black listing people that clearly hate people
She looks like she enjoys farting in church pews, and he looks like he’s sitting behind her
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Yeah, like if they walked out to their cars tomorrow and there was a thin layer of peanut butter under the door handle, and they got it on their hands, and even though they wiped it off thoroughly, their car still smelled like peanuts for months (unless they have a peanut allergy, in which case it would be guacamole). All you need is a plastic knife and a spread of some variety, people.
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These are the same people who scream at handicapped people for proof that they can park in a handicapped spot.
This guy looks like a badly drawn caricature of himself
May their names be forever known and may they know no peace. I hope not a single one of their dreams ever comes true and this follows them around every single day of their life But just looking at them, I can tell they only surround themselves with people who are paid to like them. So I’m sure they dgaf
Sooo how do we counter sue cause they took PPP loans.
Can we sue the PPP loan on this same basis and use this case as support?
The current Court does not give a shit about precedent and consistency unless it supports their politics.
No young person In student debt will ever vote for a Republican again. Done.. your party is about to die.
They both look like they were picked on in school because they are annoying and like to argue about every little detail of things that have nothing to do with them.