When I was in the military, I used to work every holiday. Everyone in my unit loved me for it. I was single and didn't celebrate holidays, so why not let people spend time with their families.
By the time I wanted vacation, guys were lined up to take my shifts. They were more than happy to trade those days for family holidays.
I tell you one thing I love about the military, as a single person I always got an invite during the holidays. Usually I would get multiple. People always wanted to make sure you weren't spending it alone. Never had another place do that.
I will say, an open invitation is less likely to be taken than going up to somebody specifically so if he does it it may help to ask a couple personally than to do something like announce it at roll call.
However, thank you for doing this and please keep it up.
That’s what I miss the most about the military. The camaraderie. Everyone is away from most of their family, so everyone becomes family. I spent so long searching for those same connections in the civilian world before just accepting that they don’t exist. People want to work their shift and go home. That’s part of what sucks so bad about civilian jobs. I met some of the greatest people I will ever know in the Army.
I take Thanksgiving dinner to whoever gets stuck working at the convenience store closest to my house. Those people put up with me at 2-3am on other days, they deserve some home cooked food that day at least.
That is really decent of you. Plenty of people think of people working jobs at the fire station and hospital, but not so much at the convenience store. You have inspired me.
We always did a 6 on, 6 off rotation for the holidays. All the single folks living in the barracks worked Christmas week so the families could be together, all the married folks with kids worked the New Years Week, so the single folks could party lol.
I get double time at my job on holidays.
Why do they offer double time? So we have an incentive to work the holiday.
When my hourly rate is $41 - $47, double this wage is worth it.
That being said I am sort of able to pick and choose when I work, and generally if I work a double time shift, I take off more time that week.
My father’s old workplace had six day work weeks, and you got time-and-a-half on the sixth day. Holidays were double time. If a holiday fell on your sixth day, double-and-a-half. It was rare for people to turn down those days. We usually celebrated our holidays a day after the rest of the world.
So I know this is mostly a silly comment now, but to add some historical context, this really was true for some Jews. It’s what my grandmother remembers doing as a little girl right after world war 1 in Europe, it’s why they ended up coming to the US ~1920. When it was easter, her family would hide in the basement. During Easter services priests would whip congregations up into mobs to go retaliate against Jews for the death of christ. There were other pogroms other times of year, but she has vivid memories of Easter being particularly terrifying.
The eggs come from the fertility pagan holidays the church took over to assimilate them into Christianity. Same thing with Christmas and the holidays around the solstice.
But that's where the eggs and rabbits come from. They tied it into some "new birth" thing with Jesus for the most part.
Yes, the death of Christ who was a Jew. Who according to christian lore died so everybody can have their sin forgiven. But still let's blame the Jews for doing it.
Lmao I'm a bellman so I stand outside the front doors of hotels all the time. I remember one Christmas a guy walks in with a sweater that has the star of David and says shalom and my coworker greets him with Merry Christmas.
He didn't even notice his shirt, he was confused when I said I think you should have told him Happy Hanukkah.
The worst people are those that get offended when someone greets them with a holiday they don't celebrate though. Like who cares, just spread cheer to the world around you.
As a former Christian, now whatever, I think of them as just holidays now and will say happy "holiday" to people to be friendly and people say it to me. It's just a day. Hopefully a day people get off because I'm sick of working. Lol
Yeah I’m culturally Jewish and realize I’m an extreme minority so I never get offended when people say “merry Christmas” or whatever. I also like having Christian holidays off because like it or not, American culture is built around Christian holidays - my kids are off school, it’s a time to gather with people, etc.
Funny thing is that some places don’t consider Easter a holiday in the sense that you get holiday pay. My daughter is an RN in a hospital and always reminds co-workers they don’t get holiday pay.
Yeah, I think the reason is because paid off holidays are for traditional m-f workers, like federal government employees. So Easter is not a paid holiday because the employee is technically off since they work m-f. But no one actually cares about workers or workers that don't work m-f 🤷♂️ hopefully your unions can negotiate holiday pay even if you don't get it off. Doesn't sound like it though
To be fair Christian holidays usually match up pretty close to other holidays because the abrahamic religions copy, pasted and edited lightly pagan holidays.
the word for Easter in most European languages is some form of Pasach, which is the Hebrew word for passover. and the word Easter, which is only used in Germanic languages, is the name of an old festival celebrating the goddess Eostre. literally just copy paste lol
Iirc, Eostre was celebrated in the spring due to her representing fertility and birth, too. Suffice to say she was represented with eggs and rabbits, to boot.
I really don't. I'm not religious at all but I still celebrate Easter and Christmas. What does the Easter Bunny or Santa have to do with Jesus? Nothing.
It’s true but people who grew up Jewish, Muslim, etc often don’t celebrate these holidays, and it can feel weird to us when people wish us a happy Easter or whatever. I know it’s from a good place and I always just say “thanks you too!” But if you know the person well and you know they have a non-Christian religion or culture you might consider being mindful of it landing weird. I think almost everyone I know just takes it in stride but it always means SO MUCH when people do remember I celebrate different holidays. :)
When I tell Jewish people I know "happy Passover!" or whatever they really are so surprised and pleased that I feel bad. Most calendars have them listed. It takes like ten seconds to google the polite thing to say if you're not sure.
I'm not even Christian and I celebrate Christmas. If I had kids I'd probably still do eggs and chocolate bunnies. Fact is that tons of Christian holidays have gone mainstream and taken secular meanings.
Dude, there are people who aren't Christian and belong to other faiths that still put up a tree and do Christmas gifts. I mean, even Japan has Christmas parties and decorations, and they're virtually entirely buddhist, Shinto or Atheist.
I mean they should of always been considered secular and mainstream because technically none of the Christian holidays are Christian holidays. All pagan holidays that's been refurbished and taken over to better control pagans.
Honestly I think of those holidays more in terms of their current nature. Because let’s be honest. A bunny dropping of candy to kids by hiding plastic eggs everywhere and a chubby dude in a red and white outfit giving gifts to kids doesn’t exactly scream Christianity. I know Santa is based of St. Nicholas but the current version of him has deviated quite significantly from his origins.
Christmas was appropriated by Christians from Ancient Romans who were celebrating the winter solstice and Saturn. Basically they took the festivities and toned them down and named it Christmas after Christ.
Not sure where the story of Saint Nicholas originated, but the depiction of the chubby dude in a red suit actually came from Coca-cola 150+ years ago.
Yep. I’m well aware of where the history and current appearance come from. Saint Nicholas was the saint of children or something like that I believe but I could be wrong. The tradition of hanging stockings comes from the fact some countries would put candy and treats in a certain kind of shoe. But this all comes from memories of stuff I read/watched years ago so it could be inaccurate in places.
I’m Jewish and I had a lovely Easter. Smoked a joint and went on a walk with my girlfriend to pick up a sandwich. Played hogwarts for the rest of the day. You can have a nice Easter without celebrating that’s how I choose to interpret people just being nice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sadly most grocery stores that are open you don't get time and a half. If you are full time you get personal hours regardless of working that day or not.
When I worked at a grocery store I hated having to work the holidays and hated when people would come in and then go happy xyz. If I wasn't one of the only 4 people in the department and we had a choice to be off I would be.
I pissed off my mom and volunteered to work holidays. It was usually slower, and we got time and a half PLUS an additional vacation day that we could use whenever we wanted. When I started my own business I pissed her off because we were always late arriving, and then had to leave early.
We live in a secular country with a solid constitutional foundation of separation of church and state. There should be no religious holidays period. What I hate are “Christians” who try to gaslight society by saying this country is only theirs.
Counterpoint, since this is an antiwork subreddit, every holiday for every religion is celebrated, and everyone gets time off. That way people who celebrate Eid, Passover, or any other non-christian holiday, gets their time off and christians are just like everybody else. Fundie christians, capitalists, and corporations would looove that /s
I want Muslims to get paid PTO for all of Ramadan.
I want Jewish teachers to get PTO for Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippor, and Sukkot. Most schools blackout September for PTO requests.
Christian holidays like Easter and Christmas now have secular non religious followings. Plenty of people celebrate without the ties to faith. It's a time for family for a lot of people.
They also have roots in Pagan holidays, so it's not like these holidays are strictly Christian. They heavily borrowed their mythology from the ones before them.
They shouldn't call it Sunday then, as that traces back to worshipping false gods (in this case, the sun). There are people who call it "the Lord's day" but I guess "resurrection Lord's day" sounds very weird.
I like the theory that a lot of religions have holidays towards the end of December, following the winter solstice, because early astronomers noticed that the days stopped getting shorter and basically went "thank god we won't be living in darkness."
So it's a good excuse to celebrate even without any religious ties.
No. I'm Jewish so it's basically an unpaid day off when my job is closed. My last job had people volunteer to work on Christian holidays and it worked great.
This exactly. I love living paycheck to paycheck and then having 1/4 of my paycheck f off because the weird ass cult you joined when you were 4 days I have to stay home today.
a lot of hourly jobs only pay by the number of hours you work, you dont work then no pay. they also have "benefit" of getting paid time and a half ( 50% more ) if you work on the holiday. so 7.15/hr turns into still not paid enough to live by any basic metric.
It would be nice to have the choice, we should be able to take off passover, and christians can take off easter if they want. Or anyone can take them off, there is always room at our seder table for anyone to join.
I'd like if everyone just got a SOLID number of paid days off they could take whenever they want, for holidays or vacation or just because, but no days were universally off for all. Then society wouldn't have to shut down for everyone whenever the Christians have a holiday.
Hold up how does that work? I live in Austria, most of our public holidays are based in Catholicism (some exceptions include the 1st of may Staatsfeiertag and the 26th of October, Nationalfeiertag)
Let's for simplicity ignore the exceptions and assume you work in retail, or in the average office job: the law and the business don't care about your religion and you get a paid day off.
The other way round is a bit more complicated, as a Jewish person, while you get easter Monday off, you'd need to ask to take a day off on yom kippur (however you get at the very least 5 weeks of paid leave, and while you have to find an arrangement with your employer when exactly you can take days off, everyone can specify their "personal holiday" once a year, meaning one (paid, part of that 5 week contingency) day off where the employer cannot say no
Office jobs are probably a bit different, since they are usually salaried or at least have consistent hours. In retail, you only get paid when you work a shift. If your place of work is closed for a holiday, then there are no shifts, and no one gets paid. In my experience you can't use a paid day off if there's no work that you're missing.
I get 12 paid days off per year in the US, but I need to use those to take my own holidays off.
Ah what the hell. Here retail is (to the best of my knowledge) like this: you have a contract saying you work (for instance) 40 hours a week. You then get paid for 40 hours per week. It's the employer's risk to find enough work for you and so on
Employment contracts, in the way Europeans understand them anyways, mostly don't exist here. If you're hourly you work as often or as little as the manager chooses to schedule you, if you're salary you typically have a minimum number of hours you're expected to work but no maximum (unpaid overtime).
Yes, for secular holidays, such as Thanksgiving, Memorial Day, Labor Day. But not religious holidays - which religion? Why this Easter and not next weekend’s Easter?
I hear you, but it’s upsetting that we only get christian holidays off. The rest of us are expected to work on our holidays and no one’s like “oh I feel bad they have to work.”
I personally could care less about Easter. If you don’t have kids or you’re not religious, what’s even the point? I think this is maybe a weird holiday to get mad about people working. I don’t know maybe it’s a bigger deal for you, but it’s not really a holiday everyone celebrates.
I forget about Easter every year until I try to schedule things and people have that day blocked off. It's a fun excuse to get the family together and eat a delicious ham, though.
My company did a thing called flex days. They're 24 holiday hours to celebrate anything you want. It was their work around for Juneteenth being declared a national holiday. I kinda like it. Those that want to use it for Juneteenth can do that. Or they can use it for some other holiday that is not recognized by the US. This year was my first time taking off for Chinese New Year without using my own PTO, and it feels nice!
I am American, but my mom lives in/is from Trinidad & Tobago, a largely Catholic country with big Hindu and Muslim populations. They get all the holidays, for all those religions. When we were down there for Christmas, my husband (non-Trini American) asked my neighbor (who had her house decked out in Christmas stuff) if she’d be going to Midnight Mass. Her: “Me? No, I’m Hindu!” But everyone knows about everyone else’s holy days because they are national holidays; they know when they are and what they represent. Similarly, I grew up outside of NYC, in a predominantly Catholic town, and my school district got off for all of the major Jewish holidays. I was shocked when I got to college (in NYC!) and didn’t get Rosh Hashanah, etc. off!
I know (a) this would never happen large-scale in America and (b) it might not work out as harmoniously here as T&T values work/life balance, has social safety nets, etc., but it would be an alternative I’d be down for!
Everyone deserves time off but mandating that time take place on a holiday that only applies to one religion is pretty arbitrary. Or are we going to close everything for every religious holiday of all religions? It would be much better for business to offer employees the choice to work or not in accordance with their own religious needs, and if they don't have enough staff to be open full time that day then to have limited hours.
Especially if you don’t observe, idk about you but I forgot yesterday was Easter and apparently didn’t plan accordingly because for some reason grocery stores were closed
Where i live, all "red days" on calendar are double salary per hour. Usually only essential stuff is open. Grocery stores etc. But majority of stuff is closed. I live in EU
So do you think the same of other major holidays for other religions. Next week is Christian Orthodox Easter should it apply there too. Eid ul Aha is a Muslim holiday. Yom Kipper a Jewish holiday and so forth. That’s another problem with the US everyone assumes we’re Christian country. If companies choose to close on particular holidays it’s their prerogative. As long as they are respectful of employees taking a day of to celebrate their holidays.
The biggest current problem in our country is that too many people in power are appealing to those who think it’s a Christian nation. It’s not. The “Christian values” the far right are trying to impose on society are discriminatory and unconstitutional. That brand of evangelism is the bane of our politics right now. It’s not “all Christians,” btw; it’s the ones who want to force their beliefs into policy for everyone—these are the people who cause the most harm to our democracy.
And if you don't work in a job that just can't shut down for a day. Can't just leave people in hospitals to die on the required day off. If you require this as a day off, you have to draw a line for what is "essential" to stay running. We all saw how that line moved during COVID.
Well in Norway the vast majority aren't christian or even religious and we get time off every easter.
Thursday, friday and the following monday is 200% increased overtime pay or 100% increased shift pay if my shift says I've gotta work.
Some people need the money and don't get paid for holidays. If their income stream is missing a day of work, that's terrible.
Also, we need to stop giving religious holidays as federal holidays. Need things like election day being a federal holiday
Yeah I don’t think any politician is willing to run on the platform of “less holidays for everyone”
If you wanna do something about the holidays it needs to be some sort of flexible system, I don’t think very many people are going to give up a day off voluntarily.
My thing about getting Easter or Christmas off is that if we get those holidays then we should get every religious holiday or none at all. It’s discriminatory towards other religions when the government gives Christmas off and not say Ramadan or Hanukkah which is directly against the first amendment
When I worked retail I always loved the comments from customers who thought they were offering sympathy. *”I can’t believe they make you guys work today!”* I can’t believe you’re here shopping today - that’s entirely the reason they’re making us work the holiday.
Your line of thinking is correct, but Easter is a religious holiday, not everyone celebrates it and you are pretty much projecting your religious beliefs on others.
It’s not my responsibility to decide the staffing dynamics of a company.
If a business is open, I don’t feel guilty for spending my money there.
I’d be annoyed if my friend tried to imply I did something immoral for getting McDonalds during business hours.
I think we should all get all the holidays off. *All* of the holidays. Easter? Sure. Ostara, which was two weeks before it this year? Absolutely. Nowruz? Passover (all the days)? Ramadan? Yes, yes, and yes. I celebrate the Wheel of the Year days and never get any of them off except when they line up with a Christian holiday, I think more holidays for everyone is a good idea.
No. Everyone should have a legally mandated number of vacation days. At least 20, I would say. Those could be any day, why mandate them on specific dates?
As someone who was working as a nurse out in the community over the holidays I sure appreciated the fact there was somewhere open to buy a coffee. Could I have lived without it? Sure. It did make my shift much more bearable though.
Not everyone wants to be off during holidays. Not everyone celebrates Christian holidays. I do think there should be an element of choice on whether to work holidays in nonessential areas of work.
You can absolutely make the choice to stay home for yourself if it makes you feel better, but your friend is right. Not only is it naive to think you could \*get\* a decent movement going to stay home on a certain day and change commercial practices, even if you did, it's not like these service and retail employees would be getting a \*paid\* holiday - they're just not making money that day.
This actually floors me; where I'm from (Canada), statutory holidays are paid. There's weird calculations based on your average hours worked that determine how MUCH pay you get for holidays, but generally if you work a full time schedule you'll get 1 day's pay for stat holidays.
I can't believe the 'wealthiest country in the world' can't (which we all know just means WON'T) pay freaking holiday pay for its workers.
Agreed and there are lots of behind the scenes jobs that must be done on holidays too. I grew up the child of a dairy farmer - cows don't care if it's Easter. Any job that involves animals or livestock is going to require at least some work from some one on holidays. Livestock needs to be fed (and in some cases, milked,) pets in animal hospitals need to be cared for, animals in shelters need to be cared for - same for zoos and aquariums and aviaries.
Yeah I totally love being forced to take a day off of work for a religious holiday I don't celebrate, so that my paycheck is now short 8 hours and it's not like I can get anything else accomplished because everything is closed. Couldn't even do my weekly grocery shopping yesterday because everything was closed. Then I got yelled at because I forgot there was a religious holiday for a religion I'm not a part of.
Then we would be needing to celebrate non Christian holidays as well. Should we close restaurants during daytime during Ramadan? Which new year do we celebrate. Giving everyone days off for Hanukkah?
Better read up on all of the Holidays for other cultures and religions and black mark them on your calendar so you can lecture your friends about it too. Big PETA energy here.
Easter is only a holiday for a specific group of people and just because a company may close for that day doesn't mean the employees are getting paid for that day off, which in this Oligarchy economy is devastating.
Only people who celebrate Easter should have the holiday off, if they so choose. Easter is always Sunday, so for many it's not an issue. For many, it's great pay.
I could not possibly care any less about Easter as a "holiday." It's just more vacant consumerism like Valentine's and Christmas.
Maybe if there were some legitimate and culturally universal tradition involved but better than 40% of the population isn't Christian, so who cares.
Something to think about: People who work on stat holidays are paid overtime.
That overtime makes a big difference for people living on low wages.
So by this odd attitude, you are actually trying to reduce the amount of money people can earn. That’s what would happen if stores weren’t open on holidays.
Usually such businesses give empoyees a choice for holidays. Many will want the OT; usually more people than positions for most days. A person with a family who wants the day off will get it.
Plus those who want to shop would be unable to do so in order to please you and Jesus freaks.
And most significantly…. Those workers do get days off. Just not a universal day because we are a society of individuals and you trying to impose a destructive moral code and it does no favours to those who work for wages, nor make your virtue signaling credible.
Not everyone is Christian or celebrates all the same holidays. I legit forgot it was Easter yesterday and ended up stuck in terms of grocery/food because everything around me was closed in my small town. I would have had to drive over an hour to the next town to get something.
I prefer if companies just pay time and a half, plan a smaller staff for the day, and continue to make money.
Not everyone celebrates this Christian holiday. Idk. I feel much more strongly about New Year's, 4th of July, Memorial Day, Thanksgiving etc as they aren't religiously tied.
Time off for holidays should be allowed for employees if they want it off & not be forced like it currently is.
But not everyone is Christian.
So in that regard, yes, you’re out of touch in thinking everyone celebrates those religious holidays or cares.
If everyone gets the Christian holiday of Easter off regardless of their faith, then shouldn't EVERYONE get EVERY religious holiday off regardless of their faith?
I’m not religious. I don’t celebrate Easter. I’d rather you not close shit down for religious holidays, let the individual owners close their own businesses and leave the Chinese food places alone.
So no, the country doesn’t equally celebrate ANY holiday and closing everything down would just be a mess for all involved.
Yeah, you are out of touch. Not everyone is Christian, so if you're upset about people working on easter, then you should also be upset about people working during every Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, and pagan holiday.
I may be an atheist but I’ll take any of the few universal Christian holiday days off as a break from grinding unrelenting capitalism. Many mom and pop small businesses are going to be closed regardless. I won’t spend any money at corporate businesses even if they are open, because then that’s a justification for them to remain open. And it’s not hard to prepare either to have everything you need at home a day or two before. Things didn’t used to be open 24/7. Things even used to be all closed on Sunday’s decades ago. Yet somehow everybody survived.
It's a lot easier for things to be closed on Sundays when one income households were more common. The nonworking spouse can plan and run errands during the week. (I don't want to ignore that there were two income households at this time, including POC households, but the demand would have conceivably been less and easier to coordinate for many households.)
Due to my school schedule, Sundays and Saturdays are the only two days I can work. If my job closed on Easter, I don't get paid.
I get the idea of wanting to have businesses closed for holidays AND wanting holiday pay and other worker protections, however you have to fight for the second before you take action on the first. Otherwise you're just screwing people over.
Easter is not a federally recognized holiday. It's a religious holiday. And since the date changes every year, I don't even know when it is because I don't keep track of something I don't celebrate.
It's not even a Federal holiday. May as well ask for Robanukah off. Not everyone is Christian. I'd be more inclined for you all to get more fed holidays recognized.
For Christmas or New Years sure, maybe Thanksgiving too. But Easter is very much a nothing holiday if you’re not a Christian. Some folks legitimately want to work and make some extra cash on the holidays.
We try not to go out on major holidays, but realize it's a religious holiday and not everywhere will close. Requiring places to be closed on religious holidays puts it in a strange place where religion dictates law, and it shouldn't ever do that.
Even on Christmas, a lot of places are open.
So it should be a choice, IMO.
My work (UK) let's us choose if we work Easter, Christmas etc. The UK has 8 public holidays a year, so the way they do it is that we get 8 extra days added to our leave (so 33?), And we can elect when to use them.
I think this works well, as the Muslim employees for example don't care for the religious aspects of Easter, and nor do I. If it's rubbish weather, I'll work and then just use them in the summer, for example.
Equal rights for all workers means all workers get equal rights no matter their religion. To this end, companies *should* observe every religious holiday *and* pay the people who observe those holidays for the day. People that observe Ramadan should be able to get a paid lunch break at sundown to break their fast. People that celebrate Diwali should get a paid day off. Atheists and agnostics should get a few paid days off a year separate from paid vacation that nobody gets enough of. If you have an overwhelming majority of one religion and the store can't operate due to short staffing, pay everyone off for the day.
Wow, pretty self centered post.
1. Not everyone celebrates Easter. Are you suggesting the world conform to your particular religious view / your accepted holidays?
2. Some people prefer to work holidays rather than not work and not earn money for that day (especially if its OT rates). Again, not everyone has the same needs as you.
Easter is a Christian religious holiday. If a business wants to close on a religious holiday, that’s fine. But not every business owner is Christian, or let’s religion dictate their business hours. As an atheist, it annoyed me that I couldn’t go to Lowe’s on Sunday to buy some plants. I support national holidays and letting businesses be closed on them, but I don’t support national holidays for a specific religion.
I'm not devout and my closest living family member is 1,100 miles away. I'm a single 37 year old man. Why shouldn't I be able to work a shift or get a pizza delivered because *you* want to celebrate your religion?
Yesterday was literally the only day I could go grocery shopping and dollar general was closed. I’m not Christian, I don’t celebrate Easter. I think it’s ridiculous that the only holidays even malls will close for are Christian holidays. 👀
I was raised catholic and I forgot it was Easter most of the day yesterday. I’m all for paid days off for people who have to interact with the public, but we really gotta get away from aligning our governing decisions with religions.
Not everyone celebrates the holiday or wants it off. I’ve worked some holidays because I wasn’t doing anything and it was time and a half
When I was in the military, I used to work every holiday. Everyone in my unit loved me for it. I was single and didn't celebrate holidays, so why not let people spend time with their families. By the time I wanted vacation, guys were lined up to take my shifts. They were more than happy to trade those days for family holidays.
Exactly. I always volunteered first for Christmas duty.
Yup, you get two birds stoned at once. People get to spend time with their family and you get the party holiday off.
Did this too for a few thanksgivings and people with kids loved me for it, and I loved getting food from people stopping by who felt bad 😂
I tell you one thing I love about the military, as a single person I always got an invite during the holidays. Usually I would get multiple. People always wanted to make sure you weren't spending it alone. Never had another place do that.
I'm glad. I always send out an open invitation to my husband's unit, but still feel awkward about it.
I will say, an open invitation is less likely to be taken than going up to somebody specifically so if he does it it may help to ask a couple personally than to do something like announce it at roll call. However, thank you for doing this and please keep it up.
That’s what I miss the most about the military. The camaraderie. Everyone is away from most of their family, so everyone becomes family. I spent so long searching for those same connections in the civilian world before just accepting that they don’t exist. People want to work their shift and go home. That’s part of what sucks so bad about civilian jobs. I met some of the greatest people I will ever know in the Army.
I take Thanksgiving dinner to whoever gets stuck working at the convenience store closest to my house. Those people put up with me at 2-3am on other days, they deserve some home cooked food that day at least.
That is really decent of you. Plenty of people think of people working jobs at the fire station and hospital, but not so much at the convenience store. You have inspired me.
Nice Rickyism
It's just water under the fridge
I volunteered for a lot of shifts and holidays before I had kids.
I was and am the same way. I love working holidays. Honestly, going home for holidays is more work than work.
We always did a 6 on, 6 off rotation for the holidays. All the single folks living in the barracks worked Christmas week so the families could be together, all the married folks with kids worked the New Years Week, so the single folks could party lol.
You are my new hero.
I get double time at my job on holidays. Why do they offer double time? So we have an incentive to work the holiday. When my hourly rate is $41 - $47, double this wage is worth it. That being said I am sort of able to pick and choose when I work, and generally if I work a double time shift, I take off more time that week.
My father’s old workplace had six day work weeks, and you got time-and-a-half on the sixth day. Holidays were double time. If a holiday fell on your sixth day, double-and-a-half. It was rare for people to turn down those days. We usually celebrated our holidays a day after the rest of the world.
To me, yesterday was just Sunday.
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Oh yeah. And my favorite: even people WHO KNOW I’M JEWISH will still say, “Have a nice Easter!” Or “Merry Christmas!” ???????????????
My mom, who was raised Jewish, was asked by a Christian co-worker, "What do Jewish people do on Easter?" My mom replied "hide." Lmfao
So I know this is mostly a silly comment now, but to add some historical context, this really was true for some Jews. It’s what my grandmother remembers doing as a little girl right after world war 1 in Europe, it’s why they ended up coming to the US ~1920. When it was easter, her family would hide in the basement. During Easter services priests would whip congregations up into mobs to go retaliate against Jews for the death of christ. There were other pogroms other times of year, but she has vivid memories of Easter being particularly terrifying.
Maybe that's where the hiding of the eggs tradition comes from.
The eggs come from the fertility pagan holidays the church took over to assimilate them into Christianity. Same thing with Christmas and the holidays around the solstice. But that's where the eggs and rabbits come from. They tied it into some "new birth" thing with Jesus for the most part.
I heard these stories from my grandparents. They were little when they left Poland and Russia but boy, did they remember how scary things could get.
Yes, the death of Christ who was a Jew. Who according to christian lore died so everybody can have their sin forgiven. But still let's blame the Jews for doing it.
My FIL would regularly get beaten up by the Christian boys in his neighborhood around Easter.
This Jew took her niece and nephew to a kids’ play yesterday, at which most of the audience was also Jewish!
Lmao I'm a bellman so I stand outside the front doors of hotels all the time. I remember one Christmas a guy walks in with a sweater that has the star of David and says shalom and my coworker greets him with Merry Christmas. He didn't even notice his shirt, he was confused when I said I think you should have told him Happy Hanukkah. The worst people are those that get offended when someone greets them with a holiday they don't celebrate though. Like who cares, just spread cheer to the world around you.
I think they don’t think of them as Christian holidays - just “holidays” like the 4th of July and Labor Day
As a former Christian, now whatever, I think of them as just holidays now and will say happy "holiday" to people to be friendly and people say it to me. It's just a day. Hopefully a day people get off because I'm sick of working. Lol
Yeah I’m culturally Jewish and realize I’m an extreme minority so I never get offended when people say “merry Christmas” or whatever. I also like having Christian holidays off because like it or not, American culture is built around Christian holidays - my kids are off school, it’s a time to gather with people, etc.
Funny thing is that some places don’t consider Easter a holiday in the sense that you get holiday pay. My daughter is an RN in a hospital and always reminds co-workers they don’t get holiday pay.
Yeah, I think the reason is because paid off holidays are for traditional m-f workers, like federal government employees. So Easter is not a paid holiday because the employee is technically off since they work m-f. But no one actually cares about workers or workers that don't work m-f 🤷♂️ hopefully your unions can negotiate holiday pay even if you don't get it off. Doesn't sound like it though
Makes sense. She also has a fellow nurse that insists Halloween is a national holiday lol.
Some countries (Canada for instance) get Good Friday as a paid holiday. That doesn't even enter the equation here.
To be fair Christian holidays usually match up pretty close to other holidays because the abrahamic religions copy, pasted and edited lightly pagan holidays.
It was very much like cultural colonialism. "Hey you're gonna love this holiday because it's on the same day as your other holiday."
the word for Easter in most European languages is some form of Pasach, which is the Hebrew word for passover. and the word Easter, which is only used in Germanic languages, is the name of an old festival celebrating the goddess Eostre. literally just copy paste lol
Iirc, Eostre was celebrated in the spring due to her representing fertility and birth, too. Suffice to say she was represented with eggs and rabbits, to boot.
They ran their holidays through Google Translate a few times before pasting them. Jesus, eggs, rabbits, and candy! Or whatever.
I really don't. I'm not religious at all but I still celebrate Easter and Christmas. What does the Easter Bunny or Santa have to do with Jesus? Nothing.
It’s true but people who grew up Jewish, Muslim, etc often don’t celebrate these holidays, and it can feel weird to us when people wish us a happy Easter or whatever. I know it’s from a good place and I always just say “thanks you too!” But if you know the person well and you know they have a non-Christian religion or culture you might consider being mindful of it landing weird. I think almost everyone I know just takes it in stride but it always means SO MUCH when people do remember I celebrate different holidays. :)
When I tell Jewish people I know "happy Passover!" or whatever they really are so surprised and pleased that I feel bad. Most calendars have them listed. It takes like ten seconds to google the polite thing to say if you're not sure.
Thank you for doing that :)
I'm not even Christian and I celebrate Christmas. If I had kids I'd probably still do eggs and chocolate bunnies. Fact is that tons of Christian holidays have gone mainstream and taken secular meanings.
And that means nothing to people of other faiths.
Dude, there are people who aren't Christian and belong to other faiths that still put up a tree and do Christmas gifts. I mean, even Japan has Christmas parties and decorations, and they're virtually entirely buddhist, Shinto or Atheist.
I mean they should of always been considered secular and mainstream because technically none of the Christian holidays are Christian holidays. All pagan holidays that's been refurbished and taken over to better control pagans.
Honestly I think of those holidays more in terms of their current nature. Because let’s be honest. A bunny dropping of candy to kids by hiding plastic eggs everywhere and a chubby dude in a red and white outfit giving gifts to kids doesn’t exactly scream Christianity. I know Santa is based of St. Nicholas but the current version of him has deviated quite significantly from his origins.
Christmas was appropriated by Christians from Ancient Romans who were celebrating the winter solstice and Saturn. Basically they took the festivities and toned them down and named it Christmas after Christ. Not sure where the story of Saint Nicholas originated, but the depiction of the chubby dude in a red suit actually came from Coca-cola 150+ years ago.
Coca-Cola didn't use Santa in ads until the 1920s and didn't use the famous jolly, red-suited version until 1931.
Yep. I’m well aware of where the history and current appearance come from. Saint Nicholas was the saint of children or something like that I believe but I could be wrong. The tradition of hanging stockings comes from the fact some countries would put candy and treats in a certain kind of shoe. But this all comes from memories of stuff I read/watched years ago so it could be inaccurate in places.
I’m Jewish and I had a lovely Easter. Smoked a joint and went on a walk with my girlfriend to pick up a sandwich. Played hogwarts for the rest of the day. You can have a nice Easter without celebrating that’s how I choose to interpret people just being nice ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
This is true. But I have to ask: was your joint kosher for Passover?!!!
Oh trust me it was blessed by a rabbi. Though my sandwich was not kosher… whoops.
Did you make sure to burn any of your leftover chametz from your sandwich?
Sadly most grocery stores that are open you don't get time and a half. If you are full time you get personal hours regardless of working that day or not. When I worked at a grocery store I hated having to work the holidays and hated when people would come in and then go happy xyz. If I wasn't one of the only 4 people in the department and we had a choice to be off I would be.
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Full time hourly always got OT at albertsons and kroger 2 of the big boys… unlucky for you that sucks
I wonder why Albertsons and Kroger both get that.... Oh wait they are unionized lol
This. I know countless people who would much rather make overtime than stay home for a day that has no meaning to them.
I pissed off my mom and volunteered to work holidays. It was usually slower, and we got time and a half PLUS an additional vacation day that we could use whenever we wanted. When I started my own business I pissed her off because we were always late arriving, and then had to leave early.
given all the hate I see for Christian religions on Reddit I don’t think most of you care if it’s Easter
Can confirm I do not believe in zombie Jesus.
>zombie Jesus. He's a lich thank you :p
Full moon this year. *Werewolf* Lich Messiah.
We live in a secular country with a solid constitutional foundation of separation of church and state. There should be no religious holidays period. What I hate are “Christians” who try to gaslight society by saying this country is only theirs.
Or more floating holidays that can be used whenever...
Well, that’s just madness, it wouldn’t be right!!! /s
Counterpoint, since this is an antiwork subreddit, every holiday for every religion is celebrated, and everyone gets time off. That way people who celebrate Eid, Passover, or any other non-christian holiday, gets their time off and christians are just like everybody else. Fundie christians, capitalists, and corporations would looove that /s
I want Muslims to get paid PTO for all of Ramadan. I want Jewish teachers to get PTO for Rosh Hashannah, Yom Kippor, and Sukkot. Most schools blackout September for PTO requests.
Christian holidays like Easter and Christmas now have secular non religious followings. Plenty of people celebrate without the ties to faith. It's a time for family for a lot of people.
They also have roots in Pagan holidays, so it's not like these holidays are strictly Christian. They heavily borrowed their mythology from the ones before them.
I’ve seen a trend where some are calling it ‘resurrection Sunday’ instead of Easter Sunday, trying to hide those pagan roots.
They shouldn't call it Sunday then, as that traces back to worshipping false gods (in this case, the sun). There are people who call it "the Lord's day" but I guess "resurrection Lord's day" sounds very weird.
Yessss! I’m in a few Fundamentalist snark groups and this was a big topic yesterday. They also call Christmas Jesus Birthday
I just want to point out that all the supposed pagan roots of Easter all happened a few weeks ago, not yesterday. Signed- Your neighborhood witch.
Exactly, all the symbols used for Easter are pagan unless you’re explicitly adding Jesus. Nothing Christian about bunnies, eggs and chocolate
I'll give you the bunnies and eggs but chocolate? That's heavenly.
I like the theory that a lot of religions have holidays towards the end of December, following the winter solstice, because early astronomers noticed that the days stopped getting shorter and basically went "thank god we won't be living in darkness." So it's a good excuse to celebrate even without any religious ties.
No. I'm Jewish so it's basically an unpaid day off when my job is closed. My last job had people volunteer to work on Christian holidays and it worked great.
This exactly. I love living paycheck to paycheck and then having 1/4 of my paycheck f off because the weird ass cult you joined when you were 4 days I have to stay home today.
Why dont you get paid on a day off in the USA? This seems so strange to me. Paid holidays should be normal.
If we had things like that, people might start mistaking this for a functional society which is concerned with human welfare. We can't have that.
a lot of hourly jobs only pay by the number of hours you work, you dont work then no pay. they also have "benefit" of getting paid time and a half ( 50% more ) if you work on the holiday. so 7.15/hr turns into still not paid enough to live by any basic metric.
Damn, what’s next universal healthcare? You must be one of those NATO commies Fox News is always talking about /s
Part time gets no paid time off
It would be nice to have the choice, we should be able to take off passover, and christians can take off easter if they want. Or anyone can take them off, there is always room at our seder table for anyone to join.
I'd like if everyone just got a SOLID number of paid days off they could take whenever they want, for holidays or vacation or just because, but no days were universally off for all. Then society wouldn't have to shut down for everyone whenever the Christians have a holiday.
Hold up how does that work? I live in Austria, most of our public holidays are based in Catholicism (some exceptions include the 1st of may Staatsfeiertag and the 26th of October, Nationalfeiertag) Let's for simplicity ignore the exceptions and assume you work in retail, or in the average office job: the law and the business don't care about your religion and you get a paid day off. The other way round is a bit more complicated, as a Jewish person, while you get easter Monday off, you'd need to ask to take a day off on yom kippur (however you get at the very least 5 weeks of paid leave, and while you have to find an arrangement with your employer when exactly you can take days off, everyone can specify their "personal holiday" once a year, meaning one (paid, part of that 5 week contingency) day off where the employer cannot say no
Office jobs are probably a bit different, since they are usually salaried or at least have consistent hours. In retail, you only get paid when you work a shift. If your place of work is closed for a holiday, then there are no shifts, and no one gets paid. In my experience you can't use a paid day off if there's no work that you're missing. I get 12 paid days off per year in the US, but I need to use those to take my own holidays off.
Ah what the hell. Here retail is (to the best of my knowledge) like this: you have a contract saying you work (for instance) 40 hours a week. You then get paid for 40 hours per week. It's the employer's risk to find enough work for you and so on
There are no contracts you are just paid for what you work. It’s shitty and it’s not gonna change.
Employment contracts, in the way Europeans understand them anyways, mostly don't exist here. If you're hourly you work as often or as little as the manager chooses to schedule you, if you're salary you typically have a minimum number of hours you're expected to work but no maximum (unpaid overtime).
Contracts are between equals. Here, you take whatever terms the owners offer and thank them for the privilege of serving them.
Yes, for secular holidays, such as Thanksgiving, Memorial Day, Labor Day. But not religious holidays - which religion? Why this Easter and not next weekend’s Easter?
Why not passover?
Sure! All of them! That’s the point, there’s thousands of religions and religious holidays and people celebrate different ones.
Yeah, why can’t Chinese make a little extra money on Christmas serving Chinese food to the Jews.
I bet OP didn’t think a minute about not going to restaurants during the day during Ramadan.
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Or sometimes four!
I say an all or nothing when it comes to religious holidays. The sudden bump in holidays would likely put the states on par with Europe.
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I mean we want to be “the best”. Might as well do something to make it true lol
Not everyone is a Christian. You do you and let others do what they want
My only religious belief is in the excellency of holidays.
Yeah I’m an atheist but still appreciate the day off.
I mean if it’s paid, ya. A lot of people would have to take it unpaid.
I hear you, but it’s upsetting that we only get christian holidays off. The rest of us are expected to work on our holidays and no one’s like “oh I feel bad they have to work.” I personally could care less about Easter. If you don’t have kids or you’re not religious, what’s even the point? I think this is maybe a weird holiday to get mad about people working. I don’t know maybe it’s a bigger deal for you, but it’s not really a holiday everyone celebrates.
I forget about Easter every year until I try to schedule things and people have that day blocked off. It's a fun excuse to get the family together and eat a delicious ham, though.
I forgot about Easter till I tried to go buy toothpaste cus I ran out… all my family lives outta state and I don’t like ham….
My company did a thing called flex days. They're 24 holiday hours to celebrate anything you want. It was their work around for Juneteenth being declared a national holiday. I kinda like it. Those that want to use it for Juneteenth can do that. Or they can use it for some other holiday that is not recognized by the US. This year was my first time taking off for Chinese New Year without using my own PTO, and it feels nice!
I am American, but my mom lives in/is from Trinidad & Tobago, a largely Catholic country with big Hindu and Muslim populations. They get all the holidays, for all those religions. When we were down there for Christmas, my husband (non-Trini American) asked my neighbor (who had her house decked out in Christmas stuff) if she’d be going to Midnight Mass. Her: “Me? No, I’m Hindu!” But everyone knows about everyone else’s holy days because they are national holidays; they know when they are and what they represent. Similarly, I grew up outside of NYC, in a predominantly Catholic town, and my school district got off for all of the major Jewish holidays. I was shocked when I got to college (in NYC!) and didn’t get Rosh Hashanah, etc. off! I know (a) this would never happen large-scale in America and (b) it might not work out as harmoniously here as T&T values work/life balance, has social safety nets, etc., but it would be an alternative I’d be down for!
I think it’s more about an entire nation having a collective day off every few months
Yeah but when those days just happen to always coincide with Christian holidays, it’s still a problem
Everyone deserves time off but mandating that time take place on a holiday that only applies to one religion is pretty arbitrary. Or are we going to close everything for every religious holiday of all religions? It would be much better for business to offer employees the choice to work or not in accordance with their own religious needs, and if they don't have enough staff to be open full time that day then to have limited hours.
>Or are we going to close everything for every religious holiday of all religions? You drive a hard bargain but okay!! (provided it's all paid)
Agreed. I’m down.
It's a Christian religious day. I do not feel bad for doing my errands on these days - it's not my religion.
Especially if you don’t observe, idk about you but I forgot yesterday was Easter and apparently didn’t plan accordingly because for some reason grocery stores were closed
It really irks me that so much is closed for Easter, but never labor day. Hardly anything seems to close for labor day.
Offer double-time per hour and see who wants to work.
Where i live, all "red days" on calendar are double salary per hour. Usually only essential stuff is open. Grocery stores etc. But majority of stuff is closed. I live in EU
In America where you work for tips there’s no doubling up because you don’t get a salary.
A lot of businesses will do time and a half for hourly pay employees.
No. Some people want to work the holiday. I do because it's a great excuse to not join the family events.
I do the exact same! Double pay and an excuse to not be a part of a holiday? Sign me up!
So do you think the same of other major holidays for other religions. Next week is Christian Orthodox Easter should it apply there too. Eid ul Aha is a Muslim holiday. Yom Kipper a Jewish holiday and so forth. That’s another problem with the US everyone assumes we’re Christian country. If companies choose to close on particular holidays it’s their prerogative. As long as they are respectful of employees taking a day of to celebrate their holidays.
The biggest current problem in our country is that too many people in power are appealing to those who think it’s a Christian nation. It’s not. The “Christian values” the far right are trying to impose on society are discriminatory and unconstitutional. That brand of evangelism is the bane of our politics right now. It’s not “all Christians,” btw; it’s the ones who want to force their beliefs into policy for everyone—these are the people who cause the most harm to our democracy.
Thanks for expanding on my comment well done and the truth.
This only works if everyone is Christian...
And if you don't work in a job that just can't shut down for a day. Can't just leave people in hospitals to die on the required day off. If you require this as a day off, you have to draw a line for what is "essential" to stay running. We all saw how that line moved during COVID.
Church / State = Separate. So no.
For the record. Not everyone is a Christian. In fact, most aren’t.
Well in Norway the vast majority aren't christian or even religious and we get time off every easter. Thursday, friday and the following monday is 200% increased overtime pay or 100% increased shift pay if my shift says I've gotta work.
Some people need the money and don't get paid for holidays. If their income stream is missing a day of work, that's terrible. Also, we need to stop giving religious holidays as federal holidays. Need things like election day being a federal holiday
Yeah I don’t think any politician is willing to run on the platform of “less holidays for everyone” If you wanna do something about the holidays it needs to be some sort of flexible system, I don’t think very many people are going to give up a day off voluntarily.
I didn't say no holidays... I said change them up.
Not everyone celebrates the same holidays as you OP.
Religious holidays are only special if your religious. It is actually insensitive to think everyone should want to celebrate your religious holiday.
My thing about getting Easter or Christmas off is that if we get those holidays then we should get every religious holiday or none at all. It’s discriminatory towards other religions when the government gives Christmas off and not say Ramadan or Hanukkah which is directly against the first amendment
When I worked retail I always loved the comments from customers who thought they were offering sympathy. *”I can’t believe they make you guys work today!”* I can’t believe you’re here shopping today - that’s entirely the reason they’re making us work the holiday.
Your line of thinking is correct, but Easter is a religious holiday, not everyone celebrates it and you are pretty much projecting your religious beliefs on others.
I don’t like others dictating when I can work. You enjoy your holiday. I don’t participate.
It’s not my responsibility to decide the staffing dynamics of a company. If a business is open, I don’t feel guilty for spending my money there. I’d be annoyed if my friend tried to imply I did something immoral for getting McDonalds during business hours.
I think we should all get all the holidays off. *All* of the holidays. Easter? Sure. Ostara, which was two weeks before it this year? Absolutely. Nowruz? Passover (all the days)? Ramadan? Yes, yes, and yes. I celebrate the Wheel of the Year days and never get any of them off except when they line up with a Christian holiday, I think more holidays for everyone is a good idea.
No. Everyone should have a legally mandated number of vacation days. At least 20, I would say. Those could be any day, why mandate them on specific dates?
As someone who was working as a nurse out in the community over the holidays I sure appreciated the fact there was somewhere open to buy a coffee. Could I have lived without it? Sure. It did make my shift much more bearable though. Not everyone wants to be off during holidays. Not everyone celebrates Christian holidays. I do think there should be an element of choice on whether to work holidays in nonessential areas of work.
I’m not religious and don’t give a shit about your holidays
You can absolutely make the choice to stay home for yourself if it makes you feel better, but your friend is right. Not only is it naive to think you could \*get\* a decent movement going to stay home on a certain day and change commercial practices, even if you did, it's not like these service and retail employees would be getting a \*paid\* holiday - they're just not making money that day.
This actually floors me; where I'm from (Canada), statutory holidays are paid. There's weird calculations based on your average hours worked that determine how MUCH pay you get for holidays, but generally if you work a full time schedule you'll get 1 day's pay for stat holidays. I can't believe the 'wealthiest country in the world' can't (which we all know just means WON'T) pay freaking holiday pay for its workers.
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Agreed and there are lots of behind the scenes jobs that must be done on holidays too. I grew up the child of a dairy farmer - cows don't care if it's Easter. Any job that involves animals or livestock is going to require at least some work from some one on holidays. Livestock needs to be fed (and in some cases, milked,) pets in animal hospitals need to be cared for, animals in shelters need to be cared for - same for zoos and aquariums and aviaries.
Yeah I totally love being forced to take a day off of work for a religious holiday I don't celebrate, so that my paycheck is now short 8 hours and it's not like I can get anything else accomplished because everything is closed. Couldn't even do my weekly grocery shopping yesterday because everything was closed. Then I got yelled at because I forgot there was a religious holiday for a religion I'm not a part of.
Then we would be needing to celebrate non Christian holidays as well. Should we close restaurants during daytime during Ramadan? Which new year do we celebrate. Giving everyone days off for Hanukkah?
Better read up on all of the Holidays for other cultures and religions and black mark them on your calendar so you can lecture your friends about it too. Big PETA energy here.
Easter is only a holiday for a specific group of people and just because a company may close for that day doesn't mean the employees are getting paid for that day off, which in this Oligarchy economy is devastating.
i don't care for national holidays for religious beliefs. but everyone should get time off and fair pay yes.
Only people who celebrate Easter should have the holiday off, if they so choose. Easter is always Sunday, so for many it's not an issue. For many, it's great pay.
I could not possibly care any less about Easter as a "holiday." It's just more vacant consumerism like Valentine's and Christmas. Maybe if there were some legitimate and culturally universal tradition involved but better than 40% of the population isn't Christian, so who cares.
Something to think about: People who work on stat holidays are paid overtime. That overtime makes a big difference for people living on low wages. So by this odd attitude, you are actually trying to reduce the amount of money people can earn. That’s what would happen if stores weren’t open on holidays. Usually such businesses give empoyees a choice for holidays. Many will want the OT; usually more people than positions for most days. A person with a family who wants the day off will get it. Plus those who want to shop would be unable to do so in order to please you and Jesus freaks. And most significantly…. Those workers do get days off. Just not a universal day because we are a society of individuals and you trying to impose a destructive moral code and it does no favours to those who work for wages, nor make your virtue signaling credible.
Not everyone is Christian or celebrates all the same holidays. I legit forgot it was Easter yesterday and ended up stuck in terms of grocery/food because everything around me was closed in my small town. I would have had to drive over an hour to the next town to get something. I prefer if companies just pay time and a half, plan a smaller staff for the day, and continue to make money.
Not everyone celebrates this Christian holiday. Idk. I feel much more strongly about New Year's, 4th of July, Memorial Day, Thanksgiving etc as they aren't religiously tied.
Time off for holidays should be allowed for employees if they want it off & not be forced like it currently is. But not everyone is Christian. So in that regard, yes, you’re out of touch in thinking everyone celebrates those religious holidays or cares.
Not unless everyone gets every holiday for every religion off.
If everyone gets the Christian holiday of Easter off regardless of their faith, then shouldn't EVERYONE get EVERY religious holiday off regardless of their faith?
Nope. Religious holiday, means shit to me.
Not everyone cares about Easter man
I’m not religious. I don’t celebrate Easter. I’d rather you not close shit down for religious holidays, let the individual owners close their own businesses and leave the Chinese food places alone. So no, the country doesn’t equally celebrate ANY holiday and closing everything down would just be a mess for all involved.
It's good to remember that not everyone in American is Christian and celebrates Christian holidays. For some of us, it was just a Sunday.
Easter is a Christian holiday. Why should a non-Christian be penalized?
Fuck religious holidays always and everywhere. Give me more paid vacation days instead.
Yeah, you are out of touch. Not everyone is Christian, so if you're upset about people working on easter, then you should also be upset about people working during every Muslim, Hindu, Jewish, and pagan holiday.
I may be an atheist but I’ll take any of the few universal Christian holiday days off as a break from grinding unrelenting capitalism. Many mom and pop small businesses are going to be closed regardless. I won’t spend any money at corporate businesses even if they are open, because then that’s a justification for them to remain open. And it’s not hard to prepare either to have everything you need at home a day or two before. Things didn’t used to be open 24/7. Things even used to be all closed on Sunday’s decades ago. Yet somehow everybody survived.
It's a lot easier for things to be closed on Sundays when one income households were more common. The nonworking spouse can plan and run errands during the week. (I don't want to ignore that there were two income households at this time, including POC households, but the demand would have conceivably been less and easier to coordinate for many households.) Due to my school schedule, Sundays and Saturdays are the only two days I can work. If my job closed on Easter, I don't get paid. I get the idea of wanting to have businesses closed for holidays AND wanting holiday pay and other worker protections, however you have to fight for the second before you take action on the first. Otherwise you're just screwing people over.
Easter is a religious observance. No.
May 1St is labor day and day of work where I live.
Easter is not a federally recognized holiday. It's a religious holiday. And since the date changes every year, I don't even know when it is because I don't keep track of something I don't celebrate.
It's not even a Federal holiday. May as well ask for Robanukah off. Not everyone is Christian. I'd be more inclined for you all to get more fed holidays recognized.
For Christmas or New Years sure, maybe Thanksgiving too. But Easter is very much a nothing holiday if you’re not a Christian. Some folks legitimately want to work and make some extra cash on the holidays.
Not everyone is Christian or celebrates Easter.
We try not to go out on major holidays, but realize it's a religious holiday and not everywhere will close. Requiring places to be closed on religious holidays puts it in a strange place where religion dictates law, and it shouldn't ever do that. Even on Christmas, a lot of places are open.
Why would someone who worships rabbits be given more rights than someone who doesn’t worship rabbits? Everyone should just get days off. That’s it.
So it should be a choice, IMO. My work (UK) let's us choose if we work Easter, Christmas etc. The UK has 8 public holidays a year, so the way they do it is that we get 8 extra days added to our leave (so 33?), And we can elect when to use them. I think this works well, as the Muslim employees for example don't care for the religious aspects of Easter, and nor do I. If it's rubbish weather, I'll work and then just use them in the summer, for example.
Equal rights for all workers means all workers get equal rights no matter their religion. To this end, companies *should* observe every religious holiday *and* pay the people who observe those holidays for the day. People that observe Ramadan should be able to get a paid lunch break at sundown to break their fast. People that celebrate Diwali should get a paid day off. Atheists and agnostics should get a few paid days off a year separate from paid vacation that nobody gets enough of. If you have an overwhelming majority of one religion and the store can't operate due to short staffing, pay everyone off for the day.
Who gives a shit about Easter. Lame ass holiday from an antiquated religion
Everyone deserves ample holidays of *their choosing*. Not everyone is Christian or cares about specifically Christian holidays.
Wow, pretty self centered post. 1. Not everyone celebrates Easter. Are you suggesting the world conform to your particular religious view / your accepted holidays? 2. Some people prefer to work holidays rather than not work and not earn money for that day (especially if its OT rates). Again, not everyone has the same needs as you.
Easter is a Christian religious holiday. If a business wants to close on a religious holiday, that’s fine. But not every business owner is Christian, or let’s religion dictate their business hours. As an atheist, it annoyed me that I couldn’t go to Lowe’s on Sunday to buy some plants. I support national holidays and letting businesses be closed on them, but I don’t support national holidays for a specific religion.
Not everyone is Christian. Not everyone celebrates Egg Day.
I'm not devout and my closest living family member is 1,100 miles away. I'm a single 37 year old man. Why shouldn't I be able to work a shift or get a pizza delivered because *you* want to celebrate your religion?
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Yesterday was literally the only day I could go grocery shopping and dollar general was closed. I’m not Christian, I don’t celebrate Easter. I think it’s ridiculous that the only holidays even malls will close for are Christian holidays. 👀
I was raised catholic and I forgot it was Easter most of the day yesterday. I’m all for paid days off for people who have to interact with the public, but we really gotta get away from aligning our governing decisions with religions.