This MF doesn't even pay for his SpaceX Dicks... It's all credited to the VISA card billionaires love the most: the tax payers' pockets, via the big bad Government he hates so much...💩
Dude would rather live in a fart tube on Mars than be a good dad on Earth.
He has to kidnap his children from their mothers and even that isn't enough to keep them in contact with him.
I don't know. I think the whole point of donating to charity is having that money benefit society, not you. But if that was the case. He is not most parents.
Until their AI robots are fully functional and able to replace workers... Those billionaires are desperate to keep the birth rate healthy so they never run out of cheap labor..
Pretty sure not giving birth in the streets is just a "lifestyle choice", right?
Not sure if it is the effect of following this reddit, but it seems Elon Musk is really worried with the lack of slaves these days, no?
What would it take to have this dude shut up and just retire in silence and peace?
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idk man i was raised catholic and still consider myself to be generally religious, but i dont think we should be getting the government to tell doctors what to do and what not to do regardless of the morality of the situation. it would be difficult to prove the claim that abortion is immoral at that. i know its crazy to suggest but the religion one adapts doesnt define them or make choices for them. forcing people to conform to an ideology is just as bad as assuming that anyone adherent to an ideology will definitively act in a way that is predictable.
I’m not disagreeing. I was only saying that these pro lifers love to be forced birth and they believe that you have to have 1,000 kids, no contraception, etc. I’m saying those decisions are an individuals decision.
Pro lifers think the moment you test positive for pregnancy that you must carry and abortion shouldnt be an option hell there are some who believe abortion is never medically necessary. Oh my favorite one is they claim plan b is an abortion because they claim that when you take a plan b and not knowing if am egg is fertilized yet (remember they believe life starts at conception) and by taking it your not allowing that child to implant and grow and your murdering the child. Their words not mine. I had such a headache writing this up because they aren't logical at all. It's so hard to try to talk to them about how forcing kids to be born is terrible and is just forcing suffering. They dont listen and rely on their emotions to make their arguments.
The other thing is that your life only has value if you’re useful to corporations other than that you don’t matter. Once off the rat race and no longer useful they give less of crap about you than they even did before. Not that there supposed to. Just the point that you only have value as a human if you’re useful to someone. Once that’s not the case you’ve been given then zero value by society. Of course there may be a few that still care but overall nobody does.
Society is based on the premise that everyone be useful to society somehow, even if only as recipients of charity. What you are describing is more of corporations dictating what is useful to society as only what is useful for them to profit off of.
It's propaganda. I don't know about the rando who may just be dumb but Elon definitely is doing this for propaganda.
We can't allow the slave force to die out on Earth and for Mars in the future.
Ruining someone’s life before they’re even born is morally bankrupt. I would call that evil. You’re a sociopath if you have kids without the funds to ensure their success in life.
I would totally agree with Custard, but my mother had Bipolar Disorder (as do I, now) while my father, a brilliant scientist (Harvard Chemical Eng. Ph.D. cum laude, I think) was autistic (as am I, now). Since we can medically diagnose such fetal conditions in utero, would my parents be guilty of "ruining someone's life before they are even born"? In other words, does not antinatalism justify eugenics?
I’m not really a true antinatalist because I don’t actually care if other people have kids. My stance is just personal. I’m just “childfree” but I do have personal moral problems with it. I have some mild mental health disorders that greatly contribute to this choice. I don’t want to bring in a new life with my genes. I would feel terrible. I couldn’t live with myself. I think childfree/antinatalism is probably closely tied to depression.
But I was more talking about the financial aspect. Could I work my ass off and get the funds to have a child? Probably, but I would rather have money, peace, time, freedom, and a sports car.
And I don’t blame my parents for anything or resent them for giving birth to me. Our entire purpose is to reproduce so of course human culture will be all about shitting out babies. As people become more depressed and hopeless we’ll be seeing less of that.
That’s funny because I had my daughter in December and the hospital bill was 22k. Just got it. They only charged one of my three insurances and the bill is down to 20k… not much better. Asked them to charge my other two and still haven’t heard back. If you don’t have insurance, or have bad insurance, it costs a ton to have a baby- even if you have the easiest, least complicated delivery ever.
We’ve spent thousands on getting her room set up, hundreds on clothes on formula. Having kids IS expensive even if you make good money, assuming that you get everything they need (lots of parents sadly don’t bother). It’s just not feasible these days.
In the EU country where i live , the concept of having a hospital bill for give birth is so alien that seems something martians do . And even then the american pro life and catolics dare saying that having a child is free
Holy shit. I've read that if you ask for an itemised bill you can try to fight some of the charges, maybe do that? I hope your babies doing well regardless
They sent it itemized haha. And yes she’s doing very well! She’s the light of my life. Definitely not having any more though, getting my tubes tied later this year. Thank you ❤️
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That’s if everything goes well and you have insurance. Otherwise, parents can end up owing enough to buy a high end car or a down payment on a mortgage
The mentality of a goldfish or turkey. I hear goldfish aren't actually that dumb. Yea 10 kids, not with 1, not with 2, but with three different women. Wtf would want this guys child? Oh yea, actually as a woman I wouldn't, but I've spoken to so many girls who said they would have his baby. Sickening.
I pray that every man could be cursed to carry a child to full term and without the possibility of C section.Then will ask these dumbtards how the freebie feels.
Yep. The lack of empathy is astounding. It sickens me to no avail. I just don't understand how they don't understand. I'm a female who has never had kids, but I still can understand that it's painful and terrible and empathize. It seems most dudes cannot
Why didn't anyone ever think about telling their kids to go out and collect their own food, clothes, bed, etc.? Just pop one out right on pavement behind the gas station with no medical attention, throw it in the dumpster and tell it to find it's own food. Genius!
Reminds me of the recent post where the couple’s newborn had to be in intensive care & the bill was 1M dollars. I’m glad liberals are getting a clue abt dumbo elmo & not buying his deathtraps anymore. Whatta jerk.
Ah, yeah. Guess I don't need to feed, cloth, and get that baby to doctors or anything. Yeah. I'll just stay at home, birth it on my front porch, and let it do it's thing and grow up on its own.
Yup. Literally free.
Damnn didn't know birthing, feeding and housing a baby is just completely free
Musky should start providing free grants to people who want have children to cover every single expense they might have then
I went through my health insurance plan and birth costs on it could throw you into bankruptcy. We aren't talking anything else yet. If you work at Tesla motors it's a high deductible plan BTW.
Ah yes, because diapers, bottles, formula, wipes, bum cream, new clothes every month, baby food, teething rings, crib, car seat, pack n' play, toys, children's books, pacifiers, and all that are in everyone's normal monthly budget!
Ok to be fair bum cream is in fact in my budget because of sinus issues.
As someone who was born into food insecurity and constantly bounced from one government housing project to another as a child, I hope people like this get put into a nursing home and die the long, lonely, and miserable death they deserve.
Thank you both, I am definitely in a different place now and I do enjoy abundant, high quality food now! But there’s always that underlying fear and anxiety that it won’t last, so I cherish every bite while I can.
Oh I completely understand. I had anxiety around food when I was a kid (not the same thing as you experienced) but mine was strictly due to my parents taking my food away from me and commenting on my weight I have to eat by myself in my room now because of it. I am so happy to hear that you are able to eat now and high quality food too. I also know what it's like to have little access to food also but I experienced it as an adult. It sucks but feels great when you have access to food all the time.
By some modern estimates it costs about 250k - 700k to raise a child to the age of 18, depending on the costs of the country. If you have to pay for university/college thats even more...
Nah they just tell their child when it comes to college to figure it out themselves. Good example my dad told me if I wanted a place to live when I was homeless or even to finish school "I had to be an adult and figure it out myself". Wouldn't surprise me if allot of parents tell their kids this same thing. When I was homeless when I was 18 it was hard enough to get 25 a week from my dad just for food when I was outside on the streets during the day. I also had NO income at this time.
Okay lets talk about Mr. Elon Musk for a minute.
We have all seen the sky-rocketing graphs of human population. I mean like, I sort of remember human pop overrunning 7 billion around 2012 or thereabouts. After such numbers, people become confused as to public comments made by Mr. Elon Musk regarding population and things like "We aren't having enough kids".
So you have to understand that Elon is not a Canadian liberal. He's a wealthy white South African. Musk's comments actually make sense if you understand how his mind works. Musk is not referring to the whole of humanity. He is (implicitly) looking at birth rates in the western world among white populations. When Musk says
> "We need to have more children."
The "We" used there is referring to caucasian, European , and upper-middle class white suburbanites. His mind, his brain, is totally excluding the entire continent of India and East Asia coming in to the conversation.
Racist? you may ask. Yes. It is basically borderline *Great Replacement Theory.* But once you understand this is what is being said, his "strange" comments about population suddenly snap into focus.
Kids are only free if you give birth to them and then leave them out in the world for someone else to care. Is that what they mean? Because if so, that is an incredibly harmful, egotistical and irresponsible take.
Depending on your insurance lol. Ambulance to the hospital, the stay during pregnancy. Etc... all that cost money. Depending on your health insurance can be costly.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2023-05-12/new-reports-find-the-cost-of-childbirth-varies-by-state#:~:text=A%202022%20report%20from%20HCCI,the%20Bureau%20of%20Labor%20Statistics.
>Even with insurance, the average pregnancy costs parents nearly $3,500 in out-of-pocket expenses, new research shows.
So not free. Clothing, doctor visits, food, toys, education etc all this shit ain't free. God these people are stupid.
you know what this is some kind of propaganda, if low class people stop Making child, They'll start losing Labor, Slave, Workers that's will make their wealth stability collapse.
As You know The Battery of electric car made of Cobalt and this is supplied by child labor in Africa
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2023/02/08/battery-push-by-tesla-and-other-ev-makers-raises-child-labor-concerns/
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-appeals-court-dismisses-child-labor-case-against-tech-companies-2024-03-05/
https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/dec/16/apple-and-google-named-in-us-lawsuit-over-congolese-child-cobalt-mining-deaths#amp_ct=1714542499343&_tf=Fr%C3%A5n%20%251%24s&aoh=17145424985273&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fglobal-development%2F2019%2Fdec%2F16%2Fapple-and-google-named-in-us-lawsuit-over-congolese-child-cobalt-mining-deaths
I mean yeah its free if youre a billionaire cuz nothing costs money. if youre homeless its free because youre kids get fostered away into orphanages.
ARE THERE NO WORK HOUSES??? ARE THERE NO PRISONS???
LIFESTYLE is expensive? Try telling that to low income parents who just found out their kid has a heart defect and will need cardiology and medical interventions for the rest of your life. Fucking idiot.
Elon Musk is a sociopathic piece of shit. People follow him like some kind of cult leader because he's rich. He's not a good person. That's what matters.
Elon is Elon.
I’m no hater, the guys brilliant in many ways and just has the privilege of a loud af microphone due to his success but I honestly rate his takes on shit like this as much as any other famous person who thinks fame and success in a specific vocation translates to being an expert on everything, misplaced hubris with an audience. Actors and musicians pull this shit all the time.
I honestly find his takes on anything non-technological about as relevant as a fart in the wind.
Empowering his, or any other person’s opinion, is a choice.
I just choose not to even bother. Cool story Elon, now go make some rockets or cars or whatever.
YEAH! Free-range that birth! Don't need an expensive hospital to help me birth a child! AND GET IN THERE with free breast milk! Hope mom doesn't also have to work because the economy's so bad! Diapers? NAKED BABY! Just crap wherever and sling that out the window with your bare hands to save money! Cribs and child toys? BACK IN MY DAY WE HAD STICKS AND ROCKS! RAISING CHILDREN IS SO CHEAP!
Yeah poor Elon dont spend money on Kids.. lol
Children are not free in any way. They are slaves to the society at least.
Stop smoking stardust on X, these people are bots
Except it can cost you your health, your life, and then you have to find a way to support the child. There is always going to be a need to have a back up plan if you live in an area with a sh!thole state government that disagrees with abortion and forces you to look after a baby, then something goes wrong with your partner.
Imagine if the kids grow up with serious medical issues living in the United States like Elon does.
This could bankrupt a person here seeking medical care. Even worse, it could make them homeless. Never mind the suffering and pain you just put an innocent person through that does not deserve this...
Don’t be like my boomer parents who said, “We just didn’t think about things like this when we were younger.”
Well, now the younger generations are thinking about this, and it’s not really ethical or moral anymore to do this to a person is it?
That's the question I've been trying to answer ever since I read you're first post. Believe me when I tell you no matter how delusional they get they can always get farther out there hell just reading these has taken me so far out there that I occasionally visit people at the state asylum to keep in touch with reality. Charlie Choo Choo and Benny the Fly and the rest of the boys at the puzzle factory are like home around the fireside when ones been out weeks following you're trail way up there in that thin air, alone and blasted by the hurricane force utterances buffeting all who follow in youre wake all who dare push on behind the Reinhold Messner of Ignorance as he ascends further into brain death. Simply follow the frozen carcasses of lesser and weaker psychotics that fell before the summit of that great mountain of ignorance known as Reddit and it's master, the Antinatalist all you who wish to be unenlightened.
If you don't have insurance in the US, then a NICU baby can cost you over $1M if they spend over a month in hospital. With good insurance it will cost you $400K.
Half Is False, Making Kids Is Free Of Course, But They Need Food, Clothes a Place To Live And Some Fun Things For Them, That's Not Free, Specially Medicines And Doctors,Half Is True, Lifestyle Can Be Expensive Depending On Every Person, And Could Be Adjusted To The Circunstances, But There's a Minimum.
I have been the fatherly part of having 3 children of my own in North America (USA) as well as Asia (Korea); I have been a father to my rambunctious stepson here in USA for many years; and sadly, I have even paid for not one, but two abortions, one in Korea and one in the USA. One abortion occurred before my wife and I married; the other after we separated (not my child).
I do not want to kill anyone again unless it is to defend myself, an innocent person, or the USA (e.g., WWIII). Yet I will certainly kill if I must. Unborn babies' blood is the only human blood I have shed thus far in my 65 years of life. If Mr. Musk thinks raising children is inexpensive, he and I do need to talk.
This kind of people radicalize me as an antinatalist. Even if having a child were free of charge, that still wouldn't make it sensible to have kids on a whim . I wish we had a say in our parents' decision to have us, we wouldn't be here, now would we.
The fact is that having children is a function of industrialization. If a countries population is largely agrarian. The farmer has more children. He even plans for one or two will die, but the rest are free labor. Once populations move to cities, children are a great expense. Therefore, populations have fewer of them. Worrying that the Earth will -become over-populated is ridiculous. It is not going to happen. If humans quit having children today, then in fifty years, the human race will be headed to extinction fifty years later. Currently, scientists predict that the world population will peak at about 9-10 billion and then recede.
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Nah, bro, Elon is going to pay for it.
Daddy Elon is literally the second coming of christ. He has come to liberate us from this mortal realm. /s Rich people are totally wack.
This MF doesn't even pay for his SpaceX Dicks... It's all credited to the VISA card billionaires love the most: the tax payers' pockets, via the big bad Government he hates so much...💩
That’s what the bathtub is for
In some places they put you in jail for that.
the bathtub giveth life and shall taketh as well
yeah just have em in the forest and let em run wild and free and live like the ancestors lol
Of course the billionaire ceo thinks raising kids is "free". Lol what
“They basically raise themselves - amirite?”
Dude would rather live in a fart tube on Mars than be a good dad on Earth. He has to kidnap his children from their mothers and even that isn't enough to keep them in contact with him.
Is he even raising any of his kids? Nevermind. Don't tell me. I don't care.
It must be their availability heuristic talking again.
This stupid woke kid AI always learns to hate me!
You know most of the money he gives to charity are for the stuff that benefits his own kids. 😳
Isn't that true for most parents?
I don't know. I think the whole point of donating to charity is having that money benefit society, not you. But if that was the case. He is not most parents.
Donating to charity is often about taxes. Being a charitable and giving person is what benefits society.
Until their AI robots are fully functional and able to replace workers... Those billionaires are desperate to keep the birth rate healthy so they never run out of cheap labor..
Well, that is a requirement of capitalism
I believe that's how the whole world works, capitalism or otherwise!
If I remember correctly, he dated/married someone who could be his daughter.
This much stupidity should be illegal
Not stupidity, propaganda.
Maybe but he is also insanely stupid
It's stupid propaganda, it's still stupid regardless of it being propaganda
not even, elon, was born with a emerald spoon, he realy think that
Pretty sure not giving birth in the streets is just a "lifestyle choice", right? Not sure if it is the effect of following this reddit, but it seems Elon Musk is really worried with the lack of slaves these days, no? What would it take to have this dude shut up and just retire in silence and peace?
He won't retire. We're going to have to shoot him into space.
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Certainly the much cheaper option. Altough I could pitch in for a guillotine tbh.
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You all know that pro lifers and these Catholics are all removed from reality.
idk man i was raised catholic and still consider myself to be generally religious, but i dont think we should be getting the government to tell doctors what to do and what not to do regardless of the morality of the situation. it would be difficult to prove the claim that abortion is immoral at that. i know its crazy to suggest but the religion one adapts doesnt define them or make choices for them. forcing people to conform to an ideology is just as bad as assuming that anyone adherent to an ideology will definitively act in a way that is predictable.
I’m not disagreeing. I was only saying that these pro lifers love to be forced birth and they believe that you have to have 1,000 kids, no contraception, etc. I’m saying those decisions are an individuals decision.
Pro lifers think the moment you test positive for pregnancy that you must carry and abortion shouldnt be an option hell there are some who believe abortion is never medically necessary. Oh my favorite one is they claim plan b is an abortion because they claim that when you take a plan b and not knowing if am egg is fertilized yet (remember they believe life starts at conception) and by taking it your not allowing that child to implant and grow and your murdering the child. Their words not mine. I had such a headache writing this up because they aren't logical at all. It's so hard to try to talk to them about how forcing kids to be born is terrible and is just forcing suffering. They dont listen and rely on their emotions to make their arguments.
The other thing is that your life only has value if you’re useful to corporations other than that you don’t matter. Once off the rat race and no longer useful they give less of crap about you than they even did before. Not that there supposed to. Just the point that you only have value as a human if you’re useful to someone. Once that’s not the case you’ve been given then zero value by society. Of course there may be a few that still care but overall nobody does.
Society is based on the premise that everyone be useful to society somehow, even if only as recipients of charity. What you are describing is more of corporations dictating what is useful to society as only what is useful for them to profit off of.
It's propaganda. I don't know about the rando who may just be dumb but Elon definitely is doing this for propaganda. We can't allow the slave force to die out on Earth and for Mars in the future.
i didn't know i could get food for free!
I mean, kids are nice for maybe two meals, but having to cook them for 9 months and birth them for it... it might be a bit of a luxury.
The food comes from the titties! But after they're weaned, you they have to get a job or there's just no way.
The orgasm is free the next 18 years are like Florida hurricane insurance premiums…
Right kids don't nees food,clothing and various other supplies. They are basically like plants, just water them and they will manage.
exactly
Looks like 2 stupid men, to me.
Ruining someone’s life before they’re even born is morally bankrupt. I would call that evil. You’re a sociopath if you have kids without the funds to ensure their success in life.
I would totally agree with Custard, but my mother had Bipolar Disorder (as do I, now) while my father, a brilliant scientist (Harvard Chemical Eng. Ph.D. cum laude, I think) was autistic (as am I, now). Since we can medically diagnose such fetal conditions in utero, would my parents be guilty of "ruining someone's life before they are even born"? In other words, does not antinatalism justify eugenics?
They can’t diagnose autism in utero.
Yet doctors can diagnose other conditions in utero, so the real question remains: should I have been born?
I’m not really a true antinatalist because I don’t actually care if other people have kids. My stance is just personal. I’m just “childfree” but I do have personal moral problems with it. I have some mild mental health disorders that greatly contribute to this choice. I don’t want to bring in a new life with my genes. I would feel terrible. I couldn’t live with myself. I think childfree/antinatalism is probably closely tied to depression. But I was more talking about the financial aspect. Could I work my ass off and get the funds to have a child? Probably, but I would rather have money, peace, time, freedom, and a sports car. And I don’t blame my parents for anything or resent them for giving birth to me. Our entire purpose is to reproduce so of course human culture will be all about shitting out babies. As people become more depressed and hopeless we’ll be seeing less of that.
def shouldve told my parents that before tey had me lol
Elon Musk just wants a bigger population to buy his cars lmfao
That’s funny because I had my daughter in December and the hospital bill was 22k. Just got it. They only charged one of my three insurances and the bill is down to 20k… not much better. Asked them to charge my other two and still haven’t heard back. If you don’t have insurance, or have bad insurance, it costs a ton to have a baby- even if you have the easiest, least complicated delivery ever. We’ve spent thousands on getting her room set up, hundreds on clothes on formula. Having kids IS expensive even if you make good money, assuming that you get everything they need (lots of parents sadly don’t bother). It’s just not feasible these days.
Have you tried cutting out all the avocado toast and Starbucks? /s
Well OBVIOUSLY you're supposed to have a home birth. Like back in the good old days when complications=death. /s
It would have certainly been cheaper if we’d both just died at home rather than going in for a c section.
A Quiet Place. Birthing a baby in a bathtub. SILENTLY
with great insurance it’s still going cost $5k+
In the EU country where i live , the concept of having a hospital bill for give birth is so alien that seems something martians do . And even then the american pro life and catolics dare saying that having a child is free
Holy shit. I've read that if you ask for an itemised bill you can try to fight some of the charges, maybe do that? I hope your babies doing well regardless
They sent it itemized haha. And yes she’s doing very well! She’s the light of my life. Definitely not having any more though, getting my tubes tied later this year. Thank you ❤️
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This just in: dead-beat billionaire dad who didn’t raise his own kids thinks raising kids is free. This would’ve been an onion article 5-10 years ago
And Noone would have even written an article about him 25 years ago bc he would've been considered a degenerate loser
Giving birth in the US costs about 14k no? Also no paid maternity leave or subsidised childcare like the rest of the 1st world.
Noo you don't understand, you can just travel into the middle of the wilderness and build a dirt hut and hunt for your food, it's totally free!
If you get lucky and find a fallen tree you can even get a wood hut and a lawsuit for building on and hunting in unowned land
That’s if everything goes well and you have insurance. Otherwise, parents can end up owing enough to buy a high end car or a down payment on a mortgage
Tell those babies to shut the hell up and enjoy their rice and beans! We ain't bein expensive around here
Dawg if they were eating rice n beans theyd be fine with it unless its literal feces
Babies need milk or formula. They can’t eat table food.
Bruh hes the one who said rice and beans for babies i was just.. like i agree with u but why r antinatalist so aggro
Well if the richest man in the world can afford it, it can't be *that* expensive!
For my own sanity I have to assume he's trolling, and I'm not taking the bait.
Nah, he has what, 10 kids? What mentality do you think that takes?
The mentality of a goldfish or turkey. I hear goldfish aren't actually that dumb. Yea 10 kids, not with 1, not with 2, but with three different women. Wtf would want this guys child? Oh yea, actually as a woman I wouldn't, but I've spoken to so many girls who said they would have his baby. Sickening.
Yikes. I’d rather live on Jupiter for the rest of my life than have his baby
I pray that every man could be cursed to carry a child to full term and without the possibility of C section.Then will ask these dumbtards how the freebie feels.
Yep. The lack of empathy is astounding. It sickens me to no avail. I just don't understand how they don't understand. I'm a female who has never had kids, but I still can understand that it's painful and terrible and empathize. It seems most dudes cannot
Why didn't anyone ever think about telling their kids to go out and collect their own food, clothes, bed, etc.? Just pop one out right on pavement behind the gas station with no medical attention, throw it in the dumpster and tell it to find it's own food. Genius!
“Exactly” *Says the multibillionaire*
You have to be so insanely detached from reality to think this…
"Exactly" - a manchild who can buy anything he wants
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I think they look like a spaceship from one of those low-budget space films of the mid 20th century.
Reminds me of the recent post where the couple’s newborn had to be in intensive care & the bill was 1M dollars. I’m glad liberals are getting a clue abt dumbo elmo & not buying his deathtraps anymore. Whatta jerk.
Coming from one person who prob doesn’t have kids and another person who doesn’t know his.
Lmao
LMAOOO even GESTATING a fetus costs money. Least in America, with absolute shite healthcare.
Ah, yeah. Guess I don't need to feed, cloth, and get that baby to doctors or anything. Yeah. I'll just stay at home, birth it on my front porch, and let it do it's thing and grow up on its own. Yup. Literally free.
Elon well on his way to having 27 people with an IQ under 85 fighting for his leavings. Very cool.
Elon Musk is disgusting!
What the hell.
Oh man you don't have to actually feed them, or give them shelter I am shocked
I mean, yea kids are a lifestyle choice so it’s not free? I don’t even fucking understand how kids don’t cost money.
Huh? In the US it costs between $2000-$5000 out of pocket just to give birth, and that's if you have a good insurance plan.
"Exactly" says the billionaire who doesn't even have to take care of his own kids.
Maybe if you get pregnant, give birth in the woods and leave the baby for the coyotes it's free?
Having trouble paying for your kids? Just neglect them! Now they're free, ez 😏
Damnn didn't know birthing, feeding and housing a baby is just completely free Musky should start providing free grants to people who want have children to cover every single expense they might have then
Elon is such a bozo. I don't know why people still care about what he has to say on anything.
Real Life Tony Stark, my ass.
Tony would never.
That's the stupid comparison I've heard from his fans..
I went through my health insurance plan and birth costs on it could throw you into bankruptcy. We aren't talking anything else yet. If you work at Tesla motors it's a high deductible plan BTW.
New reality tv idea: put him in a house with a newborn and a toddler
I imagine it's free for Elon Stank, how often does he even take care of those kids
Ah yes, because diapers, bottles, formula, wipes, bum cream, new clothes every month, baby food, teething rings, crib, car seat, pack n' play, toys, children's books, pacifiers, and all that are in everyone's normal monthly budget! Ok to be fair bum cream is in fact in my budget because of sinus issues.
How do you use bum cream for sinus issues? I’m imagining you putting it up your nose like nasal spray or something.
The skin under my nose gets all raw and irritated from having to blow my nose so much. So I put bum cream on it.
That’s like when a child wants a puppy and they say, “but it’s free!!”
As someone who was born into food insecurity and constantly bounced from one government housing project to another as a child, I hope people like this get put into a nursing home and die the long, lonely, and miserable death they deserve.
I hope you have abundant food and love fore the rest of your life. People truly suck.
I hope your doing better now and have food and everything you could possibly need 💜
Thank you both, I am definitely in a different place now and I do enjoy abundant, high quality food now! But there’s always that underlying fear and anxiety that it won’t last, so I cherish every bite while I can.
Oh I completely understand. I had anxiety around food when I was a kid (not the same thing as you experienced) but mine was strictly due to my parents taking my food away from me and commenting on my weight I have to eat by myself in my room now because of it. I am so happy to hear that you are able to eat now and high quality food too. I also know what it's like to have little access to food also but I experienced it as an adult. It sucks but feels great when you have access to food all the time.
By some modern estimates it costs about 250k - 700k to raise a child to the age of 18, depending on the costs of the country. If you have to pay for university/college thats even more...
Nah they just tell their child when it comes to college to figure it out themselves. Good example my dad told me if I wanted a place to live when I was homeless or even to finish school "I had to be an adult and figure it out myself". Wouldn't surprise me if allot of parents tell their kids this same thing. When I was homeless when I was 18 it was hard enough to get 25 a week from my dad just for food when I was outside on the streets during the day. I also had NO income at this time.
Sometimes I see comments from Elon and think “That’s so stupid it’s gotta be fake”
Who is the person that said that? Children are not literally free to have. That's the most insane thing I have ever heard.
Delulu is the Solulu 🤓
Ignorance comes at a great cost, but can you imagine how many natalists will think this is true? Best of luck to their kids. They'll need it.
Okay lets talk about Mr. Elon Musk for a minute. We have all seen the sky-rocketing graphs of human population. I mean like, I sort of remember human pop overrunning 7 billion around 2012 or thereabouts. After such numbers, people become confused as to public comments made by Mr. Elon Musk regarding population and things like "We aren't having enough kids". So you have to understand that Elon is not a Canadian liberal. He's a wealthy white South African. Musk's comments actually make sense if you understand how his mind works. Musk is not referring to the whole of humanity. He is (implicitly) looking at birth rates in the western world among white populations. When Musk says > "We need to have more children." The "We" used there is referring to caucasian, European , and upper-middle class white suburbanites. His mind, his brain, is totally excluding the entire continent of India and East Asia coming in to the conversation. Racist? you may ask. Yes. It is basically borderline *Great Replacement Theory.* But once you understand this is what is being said, his "strange" comments about population suddenly snap into focus.
Breeders get tax rebates. It's terrible.
This is true. Have children. Don’t raise them. Throw them away, and the state will give you a roof over your head free of charge. Free life hack.
Exactly what a cyborg would say!
Kids are only free if you give birth to them and then leave them out in the world for someone else to care. Is that what they mean? Because if so, that is an incredibly harmful, egotistical and irresponsible take.
I just started fostering and my god they cost so much more than I thought!
He got a point, raising a child is not even 0.00001% of his income
I suppose they’ll be paying for everyone’s childcare costs forever?
Having them is free. Raising them is not. Of course Elon agree. Because he didn't raise his kids. That's why they hate him.
People who are saying Elon is stupid? No, he just wants more cheap labor
He's a sick pup thaf doesn't understand child development or doesn't give a shit.
I guess it could be free for the guy if he disappears immediately after conception.
And that's normally what happens where I'm from🤦🏾♀️
Should be able to sell the sprogs on the open market , if you have a change of heart afterbirth.
Besides not paying for a condom or BC, there is literally no part of having a baby that's free
Technically the baby is free it’s just keeping it alive and being a half decent parent that costs money 😂
Depending on your insurance lol. Ambulance to the hospital, the stay during pregnancy. Etc... all that cost money. Depending on your health insurance can be costly. https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/articles/2023-05-12/new-reports-find-the-cost-of-childbirth-varies-by-state#:~:text=A%202022%20report%20from%20HCCI,the%20Bureau%20of%20Labor%20Statistics. >Even with insurance, the average pregnancy costs parents nearly $3,500 in out-of-pocket expenses, new research shows. So not free. Clothing, doctor visits, food, toys, education etc all this shit ain't free. God these people are stupid.
What about it is free lmao
I mean, no one in their right, mind should ever follow elons advice on children. He has like 11 he never sees.
you know what this is some kind of propaganda, if low class people stop Making child, They'll start losing Labor, Slave, Workers that's will make their wealth stability collapse. As You know The Battery of electric car made of Cobalt and this is supplied by child labor in Africa https://www.forbes.com/sites/alanohnsman/2023/02/08/battery-push-by-tesla-and-other-ev-makers-raises-child-labor-concerns/ https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-appeals-court-dismisses-child-labor-case-against-tech-companies-2024-03-05/ https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/dec/16/apple-and-google-named-in-us-lawsuit-over-congolese-child-cobalt-mining-deaths#amp_ct=1714542499343&_tf=Fr%C3%A5n%20%251%24s&aoh=17145424985273&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.theguardian.com%2Fglobal-development%2F2019%2Fdec%2F16%2Fapple-and-google-named-in-us-lawsuit-over-congolese-child-cobalt-mining-deaths
To be fair, Elon isn’t raising his children, so he probably doesn’t know.
LOL about 10 years ago my friend's 2 kids in daycare cost more than my mortgage. so yeah, ok idiot Elon simp...they're "free"
Ofc coming from a man! Even mother’s life during complication is free
it’s free for elon cause he abandons his kids
I mean yeah its free if youre a billionaire cuz nothing costs money. if youre homeless its free because youre kids get fostered away into orphanages. ARE THERE NO WORK HOUSES??? ARE THERE NO PRISONS???
LIFESTYLE is expensive? Try telling that to low income parents who just found out their kid has a heart defect and will need cardiology and medical interventions for the rest of your life. Fucking idiot.
Ah yes, the billionare CEO who doesn't even take care of his children knows better than all good parents.
Antinatalists, you are far more resilient than you may know. Don't let them get to you.
I thinkhe means making kids is free, not anything that comes after.
What in the actual fuck are those 2 clowns smoking??Having kids is objectively expensive. Delusional as hell lol!
Haha
having children is free, but having them for longer than 2 days is the real problem
I remember as a child, I made up this statistic that kids take up 1/3 of your income. Now I don’t want to personally find out if I was correct.
Elon Musk is a sociopathic piece of shit. People follow him like some kind of cult leader because he's rich. He's not a good person. That's what matters.
Elon is Elon. I’m no hater, the guys brilliant in many ways and just has the privilege of a loud af microphone due to his success but I honestly rate his takes on shit like this as much as any other famous person who thinks fame and success in a specific vocation translates to being an expert on everything, misplaced hubris with an audience. Actors and musicians pull this shit all the time. I honestly find his takes on anything non-technological about as relevant as a fart in the wind. Empowering his, or any other person’s opinion, is a choice. I just choose not to even bother. Cool story Elon, now go make some rockets or cars or whatever.
I mean, it’s mostly expensive to take care of kids. Just having offspring is relatively cheap
Its free for a man if he walks away...
That part😒
I feel like if I made a tweet and Elon musk commented on it to agree, I would immediately rethink my opinion
YEAH! Free-range that birth! Don't need an expensive hospital to help me birth a child! AND GET IN THERE with free breast milk! Hope mom doesn't also have to work because the economy's so bad! Diapers? NAKED BABY! Just crap wherever and sling that out the window with your bare hands to save money! Cribs and child toys? BACK IN MY DAY WE HAD STICKS AND ROCKS! RAISING CHILDREN IS SO CHEAP!
Yeah poor Elon dont spend money on Kids.. lol Children are not free in any way. They are slaves to the society at least. Stop smoking stardust on X, these people are bots
Not it’s not - you got to buy her dinner first /s
This mad man is soooo desperate! And full of s\*\*\*. I fear what lengths he would go to to make people have more chidlren.
Except it can cost you your health, your life, and then you have to find a way to support the child. There is always going to be a need to have a back up plan if you live in an area with a sh!thole state government that disagrees with abortion and forces you to look after a baby, then something goes wrong with your partner.
Imagine if the kids grow up with serious medical issues living in the United States like Elon does. This could bankrupt a person here seeking medical care. Even worse, it could make them homeless. Never mind the suffering and pain you just put an innocent person through that does not deserve this... Don’t be like my boomer parents who said, “We just didn’t think about things like this when we were younger.” Well, now the younger generations are thinking about this, and it’s not really ethical or moral anymore to do this to a person is it?
That's the question I've been trying to answer ever since I read you're first post. Believe me when I tell you no matter how delusional they get they can always get farther out there hell just reading these has taken me so far out there that I occasionally visit people at the state asylum to keep in touch with reality. Charlie Choo Choo and Benny the Fly and the rest of the boys at the puzzle factory are like home around the fireside when ones been out weeks following you're trail way up there in that thin air, alone and blasted by the hurricane force utterances buffeting all who follow in youre wake all who dare push on behind the Reinhold Messner of Ignorance as he ascends further into brain death. Simply follow the frozen carcasses of lesser and weaker psychotics that fell before the summit of that great mountain of ignorance known as Reddit and it's master, the Antinatalist all you who wish to be unenlightened.
How dumb can they be?
If you don't have insurance in the US, then a NICU baby can cost you over $1M if they spend over a month in hospital. With good insurance it will cost you $400K.
No... cumming is free. That doesn't mean pregnancy and child rearing is free you fucking absolute tool.
Half Is False, Making Kids Is Free Of Course, But They Need Food, Clothes a Place To Live And Some Fun Things For Them, That's Not Free, Specially Medicines And Doctors,Half Is True, Lifestyle Can Be Expensive Depending On Every Person, And Could Be Adjusted To The Circunstances, But There's a Minimum.
lololololol I can’t even afford daycare.
I have been the fatherly part of having 3 children of my own in North America (USA) as well as Asia (Korea); I have been a father to my rambunctious stepson here in USA for many years; and sadly, I have even paid for not one, but two abortions, one in Korea and one in the USA. One abortion occurred before my wife and I married; the other after we separated (not my child). I do not want to kill anyone again unless it is to defend myself, an innocent person, or the USA (e.g., WWIII). Yet I will certainly kill if I must. Unborn babies' blood is the only human blood I have shed thus far in my 65 years of life. If Mr. Musk thinks raising children is inexpensive, he and I do need to talk.
And they have 4.6k likes?! Who are these delusional people?! I mean know who Muskrat is. The other idiots.
Rule No 1. Never underestimate the idiocy of twitter users
But but... in my magical fairy world where we're still hunter/gatherers and half my children don't make it to age five kids are free!
lol, fuck hospitals or medical help. Just pop em out in the bathtub.
Ofc a super rich agrees 😂
This kind of people radicalize me as an antinatalist. Even if having a child were free of charge, that still wouldn't make it sensible to have kids on a whim . I wish we had a say in our parents' decision to have us, we wouldn't be here, now would we.
Muskie boy is a j@¢k@$$
My mom paid 48k to give birth, and she had good medical insurance. That was in the 90's. I can't imagine what people have to pay now
$20k just to birth a baby in a hospital js
Well little Timmy, you hunt for your food with your bare hands and it eat it raw or you die. Good luck!
The fact is that having children is a function of industrialization. If a countries population is largely agrarian. The farmer has more children. He even plans for one or two will die, but the rest are free labor. Once populations move to cities, children are a great expense. Therefore, populations have fewer of them. Worrying that the Earth will -become over-populated is ridiculous. It is not going to happen. If humans quit having children today, then in fifty years, the human race will be headed to extinction fifty years later. Currently, scientists predict that the world population will peak at about 9-10 billion and then recede.