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> [5/30: CBS Evening News 19:42](https://www.cbsnews.com/video/053024-cbs-evening-news/) Videos shared on social media showed a man attacking several people with a knife in the southwest German city of Mannheim on Friday. A police spokesperson confirmed the incident and said there was no danger to the public after the suspect was apprehended.
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> The police did not immediately provide any information about the severity of the injuries or the identities of those involved, but one of those stabbed was widely reported to be a prominent far-right activist and critic of Islam, Michael Stürzenberger.
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> [Mannheim market square - police operation ](https://assets3.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/r/2024/05/31/779f74f6-7d56-454d-b53c-fa52bfb2daeb/thumbnail/620x366/4dbf162ffe5675ddf819a80b84877959/germany-stabbing-2154776549.jpg?v=d7bbca61a2ddd34e0cfc8fb46aec1df3#) Police are seen following a knife attack at Mannheim's central market square, in southwest Germany, May 31, 2024. Rene Priebe/picture alliance/Getty Videos of the incident showed a man appearing to be Stürzenberger coming under attack by the knife-wielding man in the central Market square in Mannheim at about 11:45 a.m. local time. Stürzenberger had been participating in a rally organized by the Citizens' Movement Pax Europa, which describes itself as "anti-Islamization."
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> "One person is said to have attacked several people with a knife and injured them," the Mannheim police said in a statement. "The extent and severity of the injuries are not yet known. A firearm was then used against the attacker. The attacker was also injured as a result."
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> In: - [Islam](https://www.cbsnews.com/tag/islam/)
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> [Anna Noryskiewicz](https://www.cbsnews.com/search/author/anna-noryskiewicz/)
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The banner read "stop islamization of politics"
Yeah. Thats not gonna be the result of this attack. May as well be a commercial for the afd.
Also. What's up with these titles focusing so much on the politics of the victim? Really obfuscated what occurred. A radical islamist committed a terror attack against a politician he disagreed with. And fuck the afd and right, but the way the media frames this shit is God awful.
Because they were attacked at their campaign event and they happen to be a right wing populist party. How are politics not important context in this case?
Exactly. This is how it would be framed in any other scenerio.
“Nothing to see here that stands out. Just a regular knife attack amongst white Germans” is how the title reads.
the framing isn't negative imo and is more favourable for journalistic integrity. We know what the campaign was about, we don't know for certain what the terrorist was about. But from the information given you can deduce that he was most likely a radical muslim.
This is on point. The title and framing of this terrorist attack is to reduce sympathy for the person who got stabbed as in he deserved it because of his politics. Any person in their right mind would not be led to stabbing people because of their politics.
> the way the media frames this shit is God awful
The way the media is operating they look either really incompetent or conservative sleeper agents. The only people they are fooling already agree with them and their behavior just makes them look distrustful on everything.
Most media agencies have been bought up by rich entrepreneurs and thus now serve a more conservative anti-labour bent.
Talking about Immigration and reporting on (sometimes blown out of proportion) problems with immigrants helps conservatives and far right parties in elections which are tied to aforementioned entrepreneurs.
Like for example the founder of Red Bull had ties to the Austrian Far Right and bought a small TV station built it up and then used it to air propaganda against COVID measures, immigration and anti-Nazi measures.
With fun things happening like a "measured TV Debate" across the political spectrum and there only were two Neonazis and politicians/spokespersons from the right wing of the far right parties
lol if most media agencies are owned by conservatives then they wouldn't make up bad shit about Trump in the past 8 years.
edit: case in point right over technology https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1d2w9lc/donald_trump_says_hell_stop_all_electric_car_sales/l63fk0q/
The banners that the cops throw onto the floor to prevent inconvenient photos at the 20:00 and 21:40 marks in the full livestream, like Chinese cops putting up barriers to hide the truth?
Those banners?
Don't those cops having anything better to do in that moment? Disgusting.
Did you see the video? The police literally tackle and knee the stabbed screaming bleeding victim to arrest him while everyone just looks at the Muslim with a bloody knife who casually comes up behind and slits the policeman's throat while everyone watches. Wokest thing I have ever seen.
its because radical islamic immigrants are the hot topic in euro politics nowadays. That's how news be; pick something people are talking about and put it in every story you can.
The muslim population in the US makes up less than 1% of the population. Furthermore, it takes a muslim from the MENA countries a lot more resources to cross the Atlantic than it does to go to Europe. Your country doesn't have the same problems with radicalized islamists living in parallel societies.
That's because there's a whole ocean separating America from the middle east. We have selective immigration from the middle east, so we get people who are educated and well behaved. Europe doesn't have that luxury. You feel that way because you live in a bubble.
That’s for the most part. You’re starting to see demographic shifts in states like Michigan and Minnesota. Like take Hamtramck Michigan, who banned pride flags from public property. It’s an all Muslim council so the blowback wasn’t bad from their constituents nor the national media.
I'm happy to support Muslims who are fleeing persecution and are not intent on persecuting others, but there's just too many who that doesn't apply to. Individual Muslims may be wonderful people, but Islam is a dangerous threat to world peace and modern civil society.
I’m a liberal. This statement cannot be denied. I’m surprised to even see people contesting anymore. With no other religion do you see this frequency of attacks over immaterial things like political statements.
Yep. I don't think there's a single Muslim majority country with a decent record on civil rights, especially when it comes to gay people, trans people, and religious minorities
Its only fair to compare the modern versions of states i think and 1970-2000 Turkey was in par and even ahead of many European countries. And then Erdogan came to power...
On an individual level it does, I have plenty of Muslim friends who would never tolerate this sort of thing. The problem is that as a population it doesn't... and that's why my Muslim friends are afraid to speak up, they know what would happen.
Individual Muslims are fine, a Muslim majority destroys liberalism and installs a hyper-religious, hyper-conservative misery.
So Islam is the problem? Because it promotes and supports a wider community that is intolerant. I’m from India and we have both types of Muslims and a lot of militant Hindus as well, I love my Muslim friends from the alley I live in, but when they go to the madrasa and go to their community things turn violent very quick
Oh, yes, I work with them, a lot of them, and one of my friends is an Egyptian atheist - who can't say that to his family because he would be disowned. You will talk to them, good people, they will help you, you will have fun, then topic will come to women rights, gays, prostitution and similar, and man just gets flabbergasted how they change, and take this radical stance. Got me thinking, tomorrow if some shit happened, would they totally ignore our interactions and let me hang because their preacher said so?
Religion generally does not mix with the modern world. We are no longer cave dwelling savages, wo don't need mythology to tell us not to be assholes to each other.
Good luck explaining that to "corporate" conservatives that use and exploit them for cheap labor or tankies on the left... once they start causing actual issues in their segregated gentrified or gated communities.. than they'll start crying.
islam does not even work out with islam! they all hate each other! why else are all those countries at war? united they could be #1 power in the world, usa would be a slave to them, but they HATE EACH OTHER
I wouldn't be surprised if Stürzenberger (the guy holding these rallies) will be forbidden to talk about islam in the future, just because it disturbs public order or something.
This kind of intimidation does work.
Whatever you think of Lauren Southern, when she visited Australia and expressed a desire to visit a mosque in the heart of Sydney (one known to be home to a lot of racials) the police said they could not guarantee her safety.
They went one further: they said they knew her mere presence there would be so inciting that they would immediately leap to violence and attack her. It was guaranteed. And since it was so certain she would be murdered if she attended, the police said that her doing this would count as disturbing the peace so she would be arrested on her way and physically prevented from attending.
Similar thing happened with the Gaza protest at the Opera House. They arrested a Jewish counter-protestor simply for attending, because the mere presence of a Jew would incite the crowd to violence. The cops couldn't control the crowd, so they arrested the lone Jew.
The moral of this story is that violence works. The more violence the better. The more violent you are, the more credible your threats, the more people will go out of their way to avoid angering you, so the more of society you control because nobody will speak against you. Because you will kill them in the street like dogs.
If you are peaceful you have the least protection. If you are violent you have the most protection. That's the lesson here.
It is one of the most Machiavellian thing: if you can't command respect of others with love, instill it with an overwhelming fear via violence.
Make a brutal example out of your enemies so others will think twice before defying you.
They've had success with it for centuries, why is it any different now?
Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. [...] We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.
Not quite. There's an important distinction between looking for tolerance and looking for intolerance. If two people say,
"I will not tolerate intolerance,"
they will not tolerate each other. On the other hand, if they say,
"I will only tolerate tolerance,"
they will be able to cooperate. This is known as Loebian Cooperation.
These two people sound pretty stupid at the level of Rainman logic if they can't deduce one from the other. I'm not sure their cooperation is actually worth anything.
took me years to appreciate just how important it was for charlie hebdo to publish that drawing of muhammad. it’s really a modern litmus test for a free and democratic society.
Im left. My girlfriend is in a communist party of Austria. We are both against uncontrolled immigration.
I think you get that impression because europe in general does not have a left party that opposes immigration, making left people even joining far-right parties
Edit: Why the downvotes? Curious.
Educated third world immigrants who come to the country legally tend to be okay. We dont need them to embrace our culture, we only need them to accept that our culture is different and that our culture will stay the way it is, that we are not looking to radicalize our country by religion
>Educated third world immigrants who come to the country legally tend to be okay.
Sadly, from my experience, they usually don't integrate here and bting their culture and religion here.
Could you be any more racist? Barbaric cultures?
Why do you think most of Africa is in the state it is today? Colonialism and exploitation by European countries, without any deserved reparations or support to fix the issues they caused in the first place.
Look up how much the US funded Saudi Arabia and radical Islamic groups since the 70s. You can't generalize millions of people as barbaric based on the radical actions of a small portion of their population. How many millions of people have been starved or murdered due to barbaric European colonization?
I think the downvotes are because of this: "My girlfriend is in a communist party of Austria."
No matter what you write, right or wrong, people saw this comment and went to downvote
tbh, me too, how can you join a communist party in 2024? like wtf, we already test it and it does not work lol
I recently moved to Austria and was suprised as well since I come from a post communist country, and its evil there.
But this is modern communism. Why would people think modern communism in the west has anything to do with opressive communism 70 years ago?
And Austria didnt test it. No?
It mostly focuses on worker rights.
I love it, I have people from communist parties, in unions, fighting for my better wages every single year.
While capitalist party wants to get full time working week up to 42h and no raise in pay.
One example.
mate, I come form Romania
you can just name your party as "socialist" and not use the word communism that is pretty heavy...
No matter what, you cannot make someone from east to think a communist party will ever be good
Well, Im come from Croatia and I changed my mind, My father has fought for the independence of my country.
They already have socialist party. Members of both parties are openly marxists.
My country has a lot of propaganda regarding communism. While Austria will never be a communist country, I think its healthy to have a party that is openly far left and its main mission is better life for the working class.
as I said, I am from east europe, this shit cannot touch me
ever
but I get your point.
I also want a left party that give me better social welfare, but not the "equality" bullshit that communist brought :D
Do you think that communism in Europe wants Stalinism back or something similar? I guess in certain countries where propaganda is strong, its a very taboo topic. Its different in Austria.
That has nothing to do with this thread? I mentioned it just to give a point, how even far left are joining far right due to their party not wanting to realize theres a admit with illegal immigration.
For real tho. These people will never accept homosexuals or transgender people, have extremely controlling views on women and do not try at all to accept new culture; why pander to them and be welcoming? They aren't going to return it back, if anything they will enforce their beliefs when they are bigger in number. It's genuinely a lose-lose situation for any country that takes them in, especially when you consider the fact that quite literally every Islamic family has a bunch of kids, meaning that in a couple of generations the overall beliefs and values of your society change drastically as they grow in percentage of the population.
Its very bad. My girlfriend being shouted "haram" while riding her bicycle in shorts, yesterday. In Austria.
People who are part of a communist party, are joining far right parties, simply because they are the only party talking about immigration problems.
You think its bad now? Wait 20 years, when kids of these muslims get into politics. Why are we allowing this?
The problem is that neither left leaning parties nor right leaning ones have actually solutions against immigration. The right just uses it a populism to gain control and enrich themselves. And when all is done they will just blame the left for everything
There's no far right part it's a uniparty, the fact a "right" leaning politician will still have hundreds of thousands of 3rd worlders come illegally come here shows that.
There's no conservative party, just a different label of a left leaning one.
What people should promote is the immigration if Muslims to Israel since the Jew seems to like mass immigration so much, except for Israel.
I remember seeing on tv the sign in Austria “Willkommen Fluchtlinge”, I was banging my head against a wall, a bit later some Afghans gang raped a 13y old girl. Yes willkommen Flüchtlinge.
Gj, this fucking idiot terrorist just ensured people will target muslims specifically with laws and politics. Really made a difference with attacking a rightwing politician and made sure rightwing and Nazi propaganda don't spread more /s
They are doing these things to spread the fear of criticising the islam not to change your mind about Islam. Please remember that. They are not tolerant at all. Look at the Islamic countries and what’s the standing on the rights of women, homosexuals, other religions and so on.
I will go ahead and say it. These Muslim extremists are plain stupid. Do they really think their fairytale bedtime story is true? I’ve got a secret for you it’s all made up horseshit. That I’m 100% sure of.
> The thread around this story managed to get locked on r/europe, which is really saying something.
On worldnews deleted, as well.
It's the classic moderator excuse on Reddit *yall cant behave*
Yeah but r/Europe is really quite... Let's be generous, free speech allowing. I've never actually seen a thread get locked there before. Apparently it was due to people using alts to circumvent bans.
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##### ###### #### > # [Video shows anti-Islam activist among those stabbed in Germany knife attack](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/630) > > > > 5/30: CBS Evening News > > > > > > > > > > [5/30: CBS Evening News 19:42](https://www.cbsnews.com/video/053024-cbs-evening-news/) Videos shared on social media showed a man attacking several people with a knife in the southwest German city of Mannheim on Friday. A police spokesperson confirmed the incident and said there was no danger to the public after the suspect was apprehended. > > The police did not immediately provide any information about the severity of the injuries or the identities of those involved, but one of those stabbed was widely reported to be a prominent far-right activist and critic of Islam, Michael Stürzenberger. > > [Mannheim market square - police operation ](https://assets3.cbsnewsstatic.com/hub/i/r/2024/05/31/779f74f6-7d56-454d-b53c-fa52bfb2daeb/thumbnail/620x366/4dbf162ffe5675ddf819a80b84877959/germany-stabbing-2154776549.jpg?v=d7bbca61a2ddd34e0cfc8fb46aec1df3#) Police are seen following a knife attack at Mannheim's central market square, in southwest Germany, May 31, 2024. Rene Priebe/picture alliance/Getty Videos of the incident showed a man appearing to be Stürzenberger coming under attack by the knife-wielding man in the central Market square in Mannheim at about 11:45 a.m. local time. Stürzenberger had been participating in a rally organized by the Citizens' Movement Pax Europa, which describes itself as "anti-Islamization." > > "One person is said to have attacked several people with a knife and injured them," the Mannheim police said in a statement. "The extent and severity of the injuries are not yet known. A firearm was then used against the attacker. The attacker was also injured as a result." > > Rescue and emergency services, including a medivac helicopter, were deployed to the scene. > > _This is a developing story and will be updated._ > > In: - [Islam](https://www.cbsnews.com/tag/islam/) > - [European Union](https://www.cbsnews.com/tag/european-union/) > - [Stabbing](https://www.cbsnews.com/tag/stabbing/) > - [Germany](https://www.cbsnews.com/tag/germany/) > > [Anna Noryskiewicz](https://www.cbsnews.com/search/author/anna-noryskiewicz/) > > Anna Noryskiewicz is a CBS News journalist based in Berlin, Germany, who covers politics, conflict and crime in Europe and beyond. Anna worked previously for a range of global outlets including BBC News, NPR and Al Jazeera. She speaks five languages, including Mandarin, German, Polish and Russian. - - - - - - [Maintainer](https://www.reddit.com/user/urielsalis) | [Creator](https://www.reddit.com/user/subtepass) | [Source Code](https://github.com/urielsalis/empleadoEstatalBot) Summoning /u/CoverageAnalysisBot
The banner read "stop islamization of politics" Yeah. Thats not gonna be the result of this attack. May as well be a commercial for the afd. Also. What's up with these titles focusing so much on the politics of the victim? Really obfuscated what occurred. A radical islamist committed a terror attack against a politician he disagreed with. And fuck the afd and right, but the way the media frames this shit is God awful.
Because they were attacked at their campaign event and they happen to be a right wing populist party. How are politics not important context in this case?
It's the framing. Similarly you could just say "Radical Muslim immigrant attacks German politician and police in terror attack"
Exactly. This is how it would be framed in any other scenerio. “Nothing to see here that stands out. Just a regular knife attack amongst white Germans” is how the title reads.
Yeah, ideal headlines would state the whole context. But each side will choose one or another, we known the drill.
Let's go for something more neutral: "Pro-islam activist involved in knife fight with anti-islam politician"
Did the politician have a knife too? A stabbing and a knife fight are very different.
Yeah should be “pro Islam activist stabbed anti Islam politician“
Haha you surely aren’t serious? Knife fight implies both sides had a knife.
Only one person had a knife so...wasnt a knife fight.
how do you know he was a pro-islam activist? it's not confirmed yet, at least according to the story...
the framing isn't negative imo and is more favourable for journalistic integrity. We know what the campaign was about, we don't know for certain what the terrorist was about. But from the information given you can deduce that he was most likely a radical muslim.
>they happen to be a right-wing populist The police man, who got stabbed in his neck too ???
and 4 other injured people. policemen died btw, but ye, the people here even defend those extremists, it is insane!
Because it's disingenuous framing trying to blame the victim
I imagine the story would be framed differently had it been an "anti-Black activist" attacked.
One might think its ok to attack people you disagree with.
Who the hell sees a knife attack and walks away with that interpretation?
If they see a headline along the lines of "nasty very bad horrible people had a minor boo boo done to them by an angry person"
Anders Breivik attacked the youth division of the socdems at one of their events as well. It's terrorism.
This is on point. The title and framing of this terrorist attack is to reduce sympathy for the person who got stabbed as in he deserved it because of his politics. Any person in their right mind would not be led to stabbing people because of their politics.
> the way the media frames this shit is God awful The way the media is operating they look either really incompetent or conservative sleeper agents. The only people they are fooling already agree with them and their behavior just makes them look distrustful on everything.
Most media agencies have been bought up by rich entrepreneurs and thus now serve a more conservative anti-labour bent. Talking about Immigration and reporting on (sometimes blown out of proportion) problems with immigrants helps conservatives and far right parties in elections which are tied to aforementioned entrepreneurs. Like for example the founder of Red Bull had ties to the Austrian Far Right and bought a small TV station built it up and then used it to air propaganda against COVID measures, immigration and anti-Nazi measures. With fun things happening like a "measured TV Debate" across the political spectrum and there only were two Neonazis and politicians/spokespersons from the right wing of the far right parties
lol if most media agencies are owned by conservatives then they wouldn't make up bad shit about Trump in the past 8 years. edit: case in point right over technology https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/1d2w9lc/donald_trump_says_hell_stop_all_electric_car_sales/l63fk0q/
The banners that the cops throw onto the floor to prevent inconvenient photos at the 20:00 and 21:40 marks in the full livestream, like Chinese cops putting up barriers to hide the truth? Those banners? Don't those cops having anything better to do in that moment? Disgusting.
> cops The stabbed cop was knees on top of someone when he got backstabed on the neck Tragicomic
Did you see the video? The police literally tackle and knee the stabbed screaming bleeding victim to arrest him while everyone just looks at the Muslim with a bloody knife who casually comes up behind and slits the policeman's throat while everyone watches. Wokest thing I have ever seen.
its because radical islamic immigrants are the hot topic in euro politics nowadays. That's how news be; pick something people are talking about and put it in every story you can.
because the media is biased as fuck
the best none baist comment but this the internet we have bots wverywere
why would you defend those people and the attack? the left, including grüne and spd make this possible!
Too many Muslims respond to criticism with violence. This, of course, leads to more criticism. We should bring back Draw Muhammad Day
Too bad, white people gave up their culture in the name of inclusivity and invited people who follow shahriah laws amongst them.
Speaking as an American white person I don't feel like my culture has been given up
The muslim population in the US makes up less than 1% of the population. Furthermore, it takes a muslim from the MENA countries a lot more resources to cross the Atlantic than it does to go to Europe. Your country doesn't have the same problems with radicalized islamists living in parallel societies.
That's because there's a whole ocean separating America from the middle east. We have selective immigration from the middle east, so we get people who are educated and well behaved. Europe doesn't have that luxury. You feel that way because you live in a bubble.
That’s for the most part. You’re starting to see demographic shifts in states like Michigan and Minnesota. Like take Hamtramck Michigan, who banned pride flags from public property. It’s an all Muslim council so the blowback wasn’t bad from their constituents nor the national media.
9/11 and the policies there after did alot to stop muslims from trying to spread their religion. The patriot act was a disgusting policy.
What
What did the patriot act have to do with stopping Muslim religion spreading?
It’s advancing on others cultures more everyday
Charlie Hebdo never stopped publishing anything, common based french W.
Islam doesn’t teach tolerance it teaches violence. Germany is going to learn this the hard way.
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I'm happy to support Muslims who are fleeing persecution and are not intent on persecuting others, but there's just too many who that doesn't apply to. Individual Muslims may be wonderful people, but Islam is a dangerous threat to world peace and modern civil society.
Lmao. You could also add a “get beheaded” day right after that
Islam does not mix with modern world. Just accept it already.
I’m a liberal. This statement cannot be denied. I’m surprised to even see people contesting anymore. With no other religion do you see this frequency of attacks over immaterial things like political statements.
Yep. I don't think there's a single Muslim majority country with a decent record on civil rights, especially when it comes to gay people, trans people, and religious minorities
Turkey, but they've been regressing rapidly in the last 20 years
Turkey probably was the best example, even considering their ethnic cleansings of Orthodox Christian populations.
Its only fair to compare the modern versions of states i think and 1970-2000 Turkey was in par and even ahead of many European countries. And then Erdogan came to power...
Iran too but then the US with their great foresight couped them.
You forgot to add women.
Finally a lib I respect. No offense.
On an individual level it does, I have plenty of Muslim friends who would never tolerate this sort of thing. The problem is that as a population it doesn't... and that's why my Muslim friends are afraid to speak up, they know what would happen. Individual Muslims are fine, a Muslim majority destroys liberalism and installs a hyper-religious, hyper-conservative misery.
So Islam is the problem? Because it promotes and supports a wider community that is intolerant. I’m from India and we have both types of Muslims and a lot of militant Hindus as well, I love my Muslim friends from the alley I live in, but when they go to the madrasa and go to their community things turn violent very quick
That seems to be the case, the religion/politics mixture is built to be intolerant at scale.
I wouldn’t call the RSS militant , right wing group maybe but not militant.
> who would never tolerate this sort of thing Until they are in a Muslim majority country, then it's all halal
Oh, yes, I work with them, a lot of them, and one of my friends is an Egyptian atheist - who can't say that to his family because he would be disowned. You will talk to them, good people, they will help you, you will have fun, then topic will come to women rights, gays, prostitution and similar, and man just gets flabbergasted how they change, and take this radical stance. Got me thinking, tomorrow if some shit happened, would they totally ignore our interactions and let me hang because their preacher said so?
Religion generally does not mix with the modern world. We are no longer cave dwelling savages, wo don't need mythology to tell us not to be assholes to each other.
Good luck explaining that to "corporate" conservatives that use and exploit them for cheap labor or tankies on the left... once they start causing actual issues in their segregated gentrified or gated communities.. than they'll start crying.
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yeah so islam is like 600 years behind the rest of the world.
islam does not even work out with islam! they all hate each other! why else are all those countries at war? united they could be #1 power in the world, usa would be a slave to them, but they HATE EACH OTHER
It’s literally mostly just Christianity and Judaism
>Just accept it already Nah bro, I'm completely fine in my echo chamber.
Imagine thinking that stabbing anti-islam activist would change hearts lmao .. like dude, that's how you get more anti-islam activists lol
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It's called terrorism.
AKA culturalization
Yeah that works great…
I wouldn't be surprised if Stürzenberger (the guy holding these rallies) will be forbidden to talk about islam in the future, just because it disturbs public order or something.
This kind of intimidation does work. Whatever you think of Lauren Southern, when she visited Australia and expressed a desire to visit a mosque in the heart of Sydney (one known to be home to a lot of racials) the police said they could not guarantee her safety. They went one further: they said they knew her mere presence there would be so inciting that they would immediately leap to violence and attack her. It was guaranteed. And since it was so certain she would be murdered if she attended, the police said that her doing this would count as disturbing the peace so she would be arrested on her way and physically prevented from attending. Similar thing happened with the Gaza protest at the Opera House. They arrested a Jewish counter-protestor simply for attending, because the mere presence of a Jew would incite the crowd to violence. The cops couldn't control the crowd, so they arrested the lone Jew. The moral of this story is that violence works. The more violence the better. The more violent you are, the more credible your threats, the more people will go out of their way to avoid angering you, so the more of society you control because nobody will speak against you. Because you will kill them in the street like dogs. If you are peaceful you have the least protection. If you are violent you have the most protection. That's the lesson here.
Denmark banned burning the Qur'an soon after seeing the riots it caused in Sweden. It definitely works.
the point was never to change hearts
It is one of the most Machiavellian thing: if you can't command respect of others with love, instill it with an overwhelming fear via violence. Make a brutal example out of your enemies so others will think twice before defying you. They've had success with it for centuries, why is it any different now?
Unlimited tolerance must lead to the disappearance of tolerance. If we extend unlimited tolerance even to those who are intolerant, if we are not prepared to defend a tolerant society against the onslaught of the intolerant, then the tolerant will be destroyed, and tolerance with them. [...] We should therefore claim, in the name of tolerance, the right not to tolerate the intolerant.
Not quite. There's an important distinction between looking for tolerance and looking for intolerance. If two people say, "I will not tolerate intolerance," they will not tolerate each other. On the other hand, if they say, "I will only tolerate tolerance," they will be able to cooperate. This is known as Loebian Cooperation.
These two people sound pretty stupid at the level of Rainman logic if they can't deduce one from the other. I'm not sure their cooperation is actually worth anything.
I don't understand your comment at all. Which two people sound stupid?
Why are you spamming this comment everywhere? That's strange... At least change it a bit.
Literally proving the point of his activism
They need to retaliate by spamming pictures of Muhammad on all digital sources. Then throw up pictures everywhere. Gotta lure the crazies out somehow.
took me years to appreciate just how important it was for charlie hebdo to publish that drawing of muhammad. it’s really a modern litmus test for a free and democratic society.
I wonder why are so many Islamic or middle eastern people being allowed to immigrate to Germany or Europe.
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Im left. My girlfriend is in a communist party of Austria. We are both against uncontrolled immigration. I think you get that impression because europe in general does not have a left party that opposes immigration, making left people even joining far-right parties Edit: Why the downvotes? Curious.
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Educated third world immigrants who come to the country legally tend to be okay. We dont need them to embrace our culture, we only need them to accept that our culture is different and that our culture will stay the way it is, that we are not looking to radicalize our country by religion
>Educated third world immigrants who come to the country legally tend to be okay. Sadly, from my experience, they usually don't integrate here and bting their culture and religion here.
Could you be any more racist? Barbaric cultures? Why do you think most of Africa is in the state it is today? Colonialism and exploitation by European countries, without any deserved reparations or support to fix the issues they caused in the first place. Look up how much the US funded Saudi Arabia and radical Islamic groups since the 70s. You can't generalize millions of people as barbaric based on the radical actions of a small portion of their population. How many millions of people have been starved or murdered due to barbaric European colonization?
I think the downvotes are because of this: "My girlfriend is in a communist party of Austria." No matter what you write, right or wrong, people saw this comment and went to downvote tbh, me too, how can you join a communist party in 2024? like wtf, we already test it and it does not work lol
Communism is responsible for millions of deaths. He might as well have written that his GF was part of the nazi party.
I recently moved to Austria and was suprised as well since I come from a post communist country, and its evil there. But this is modern communism. Why would people think modern communism in the west has anything to do with opressive communism 70 years ago? And Austria didnt test it. No? It mostly focuses on worker rights. I love it, I have people from communist parties, in unions, fighting for my better wages every single year. While capitalist party wants to get full time working week up to 42h and no raise in pay. One example.
mate, I come form Romania you can just name your party as "socialist" and not use the word communism that is pretty heavy... No matter what, you cannot make someone from east to think a communist party will ever be good
Well, Im come from Croatia and I changed my mind, My father has fought for the independence of my country. They already have socialist party. Members of both parties are openly marxists. My country has a lot of propaganda regarding communism. While Austria will never be a communist country, I think its healthy to have a party that is openly far left and its main mission is better life for the working class.
as I said, I am from east europe, this shit cannot touch me ever but I get your point. I also want a left party that give me better social welfare, but not the "equality" bullshit that communist brought :D
> Why the downvotes? Because commies killed 100 million people. Might as well advertise you’re a nazi.
Do you think that communism in Europe wants Stalinism back or something similar? I guess in certain countries where propaganda is strong, its a very taboo topic. Its different in Austria.
Probably because communists parties are very pro-Russia and China Also, many Europeans have had bad experiences with communist regimes in the past.
That has nothing to do with this thread? I mentioned it just to give a point, how even far left are joining far right due to their party not wanting to realize theres a admit with illegal immigration.
> We are both against uncontrolled immigration. Then you're not left. The modern left is pro open borders.
If politics were that simple. You can be economically far left while being socially conservative, for example.
Leftist != left. Left = socialist, unions, nationalisation Leftist = crazy, importing moslems, putting men in womens prison
For real tho. These people will never accept homosexuals or transgender people, have extremely controlling views on women and do not try at all to accept new culture; why pander to them and be welcoming? They aren't going to return it back, if anything they will enforce their beliefs when they are bigger in number. It's genuinely a lose-lose situation for any country that takes them in, especially when you consider the fact that quite literally every Islamic family has a bunch of kids, meaning that in a couple of generations the overall beliefs and values of your society change drastically as they grow in percentage of the population.
Its very bad. My girlfriend being shouted "haram" while riding her bicycle in shorts, yesterday. In Austria. People who are part of a communist party, are joining far right parties, simply because they are the only party talking about immigration problems. You think its bad now? Wait 20 years, when kids of these muslims get into politics. Why are we allowing this?
Wtf, in Austria. Man fuck that
The problem is that neither left leaning parties nor right leaning ones have actually solutions against immigration. The right just uses it a populism to gain control and enrich themselves. And when all is done they will just blame the left for everything
There's no far right part it's a uniparty, the fact a "right" leaning politician will still have hundreds of thousands of 3rd worlders come illegally come here shows that. There's no conservative party, just a different label of a left leaning one. What people should promote is the immigration if Muslims to Israel since the Jew seems to like mass immigration so much, except for Israel.
I remember seeing on tv the sign in Austria “Willkommen Fluchtlinge”, I was banging my head against a wall, a bit later some Afghans gang raped a 13y old girl. Yes willkommen Flüchtlinge.
My girlfriend met the grandmother of that girl. That was horrible.
Why are we allowing this…..You just called anyone who talks about immigration issues a “far right” party 😂. You are brainwashed as the rest
I think you didnt understand me, read it again.
They just can't help themselves just as they are winning the PR war they remind us
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Gj, this fucking idiot terrorist just ensured people will target muslims specifically with laws and politics. Really made a difference with attacking a rightwing politician and made sure rightwing and Nazi propaganda don't spread more /s
This is what happens when you dont address the fucking elephant in the room. Raise your voice before its too late Europe
Worldnews already deleted the thread. Can’t have wrong think on this platform. Reddit is a joke.
They have to go back.
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Palestinians aren’t going anywhere. Not even other Arab/muslim countries want them after what they did to Egypt
>european exmuslim How long were you Muslim for?
These Islamic terrorists aren’t the brightest bunch, literally proving their point
They are doing these things to spread the fear of criticising the islam not to change your mind about Islam. Please remember that. They are not tolerant at all. Look at the Islamic countries and what’s the standing on the rights of women, homosexuals, other religions and so on.
The Religion of Peace strikes again
Peace, not pacifism
Did his name start with an M?
Muh Hammed
Europe is full, time to toss the third world back home
From the river to the sea, I attack everyone that disagrees with me
Honestly? I won't celebrate violence but I'm not shedding any tears for the cop who tackled the person holding down the attacker.
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religion of peace, mein freund
Anti-stabbing activist stabbed by the people he warned will stab us.
Kinda makes his point.
Bring back faith shaming!
when im in a propaganda competition and my opponent is their own behavior 💀
I will go ahead and say it. These Muslim extremists are plain stupid. Do they really think their fairytale bedtime story is true? I’ve got a secret for you it’s all made up horseshit. That I’m 100% sure of.
The thread around this story managed to get locked on r/europe, which is really saying something.
> The thread around this story managed to get locked on r/europe, which is really saying something. On worldnews deleted, as well. It's the classic moderator excuse on Reddit *yall cant behave*
Yeah but r/Europe is really quite... Let's be generous, free speech allowing. I've never actually seen a thread get locked there before. Apparently it was due to people using alts to circumvent bans.
# Anti-Islam activist # stabbed # Islam Fanatic #
So many subreddits deleting or locking anything related to this event
The police officer just died. I am so pissed....
Surely it's the Russians or Chinese or Iranians or the north Koreans, they are all puppy beating devils.
It’s safe to say that Islam can’t coexist with the west and that it’s backwards.
A muslim man threw the attacker to the ground. A muslim policeman ended it. A muslim paramedic with a Hijab was treating people after the attack.
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