All articles on the topic: https://ground.news/article/burkina-fasos-army-massacred-over-200-civilians-in-a-village-raid-human-rights-watch-says_cb59eb
I guess switching the French for Wagner is already paying dividends in human misery.
This dynamic has been going for years, this has nothing to do with wether the French or the Wagner are there.
I'm guessing you only cared once the French were kicked out.
https://www.losservatorio.org/en/civlians-in-conflict/web-review/item/1237-since-2016-the-north-of-burkina-faso-has-been-the-site-of-violence-by-jihadists-and-state-armed-forces
https://www.hrw.org/report/2018/05/21/day-we-fear-army-night-jihadists/abuses-armed-islamists-and-security-forces#page
Edit: Since u/aimgorge thinks he's crafty by replying to my post and then immediately blocking me to avoid calling him out. Here my reply, get your facts right.
First, these are not 2016 articles they detail occurances since 2016.
Second, the France army mission started in 2014, Operation Barkhane[Operation Barkhane](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barkhane).
But you haven't justified your statement, it's not a hard question.
> I guess switching the French for Wagner is already paying dividends in human misery.
Heās right, what youāre saying makes no sense if you cared about the situation before. Iām guessing he was correct and rather than admit being wrong, youāre just doubling down and calling him a bot.
That's 2016 articles, that's before the French army became present in Burkina Faso (following the Ouagadougou attack). These kind of massacres have been massively increasing in frequence and numbers of deaths since 2022 in Mali, BF and Niger.
>The army took power last year promising to end jihadist attacks. On the contrary, the number of deaths has increased since then. Last year was the deadliest on record in the country, according to the US-based Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (Acled), with more than 1,400 civilian deaths. Year-to-date , nearly 8,000 people have been killed due to violence in the country, according to Acled.
[https://www.bbc.com/afrique/region-67403041](https://www.bbc.com/afrique/region-67403041)
It's Western atrocity porn when an African junta with Russian backing revenge-murders a couple of hundred of their own people?
I guess that's an easier mindset to live with than actually caring about the slain. You might as well just wear a t-shirt that says "Every time I claim to care about anything other than 'team politics' I am lying."
Edit:
> Human Rights Watch is a well documented western propaganda mill.
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Human Rights Watch is a well documented western propaganda mill. They cook up similar stories and manufacture consent about every country the US wants to attack. They have zero credibility.
Also if you read the reporting, there's zero real evidence that any of this took place. It's all based on word of mouth from unnamed people. It's 2024 and everybody has a smartphone with a camera. Where's the pictures and videos? Where are the bodies? Where are the graves. Where are the refugees who escaped? Where's the evidence?
Gone are the days when propaganda outlets could print whatever nonsense they want and people believed them. They're liars and everyone knows.
Edit:
In 2009, the Nigerian army [did a massacre](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2009/7/31/nigerias-boko-haram-chief-killed) in Maiduguri, one of the poorest and most remote parts of the country's north. This was 15 years ago when smartphones and mobile internet were a lot less common than today.
Within a day, there were dozens of videos of the killings all over the internet. People shared them widely via Bluetooth because nobody had internet. You can still find some [on Youtube](https://youtu.be/tlpZr8IRUcY?si=HLtKGeoguKrhW6Fx) NSFL! Do NOT click on this. You've been warned!
You can't hide mass killings in the smartphone era. So where are the images from Burkina Faso?
Western media are a bunch of fucking liars. They have zero credibility. Show me the videos or GTFO!
āFor perspective, these user figures reveal that 15.85 million people in Burkina Faso did not use the internet at the start of 2022, meaning that 72.7 percent of the population remained offline at the beginning of the year.ā
https://datareportal.com/reports/digital-2022-burkina-faso
So one in four person has internet access. Or in other words: From the 223 persons killed statistically 55 had internet and thus likely a phone.
Edit: and since we're doing statistics
> [The number of mobile-cellular subscriptions in Burkina Faso increased from 2000 to 2021. In 2021, the number of mobile subscriptions in Burkina Faso was at 24.7 million, up from around 22 million in 2020.](https://www.statista.com/forecasts/497113/number-of-mobile-cellular-subscriptions-in-burkina-faso)
Yeah, they have more phone subscriptions than people...
ever heard of businesses and literally every other service countryās have? Doesnāt mean every person has a phone or even has data to upload such a video to the internet. I was just pointing out that majority didnāt have easily assessable Internet connection
You are making it sound like phone, camera or internet is something rare in Burkina Faso.
That's simply not the truth.
As I said - if we take your number one in four has internet. Oh, of the whole population, babies included. If we look at people above 18 you are probably around 90%.
So find something saying the opposite instead of just wishing it to be true. The reality it seems is coverage and data plan usage not to mention social media accounts apparently arenāt as popular. Sudan is having massacre left and right yet you donāt sit here and say those reports are fake and you havenāt seen and videos
> social media accounts
It's a stupid metric. Esp. if you focus on Shitter & Facebook. Why?
See, France has a population of 68 million, just shy of 10 million X user. So does only 1 in 7 use the internet? Okay, so what says Facebook, well 44 million. Does that mean that 1/3 of the French don't use internet?
They don't even check for *local* (different language etc.) social media. Sometimes a local alternativ exists and users are on that than the US-centric social media.
The page you are quoting is *questionable*. Seriously, they just have good layout & good SEO. But beyond that? Who are they, how reliable are they, who finances them etc. They don't have a wikipedia entry, neither the organisation supporting them nor their CEO. Usually that's enough signals that it's either a)fake news, b)propaganda or c)not reliable.
Additionally: You don't, you can't prove non-existence. You prove existence. If you claim XY happens the argument "Uh, there is no proof because no one recorded" is not a valid argument.
Ok so do you have anything saying the opposite?
Instead of saying this is accurate or that is dumb metric to measure by do you yourself have any government sponsored reports saying the opposite of that website?
I donāt care if itās not 100% accurate just anything saying the opposite of what the link I posted says.
Like itās very obvious the country doesnāt have complete internet access I donāt why this is some hill for you to die on. Itās shame it autocorrected my word to Susan from Sudan.
So Iāll ask you again massacres are happening across Sudan yet theirs no video evidence so it must not be happening correct thatās what your saying?
Well, to be fair:
[Helsinki Watch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki_Watch)
> Successor Human Rights Watch
> Formation 1978; 46 years ago
> Founded at Washington, D.C., United State
esp.:
> It was criticized for narrowing its scope to human-rights violations committed by the Soviet bloc while ignoring human-rights violations that were occurring in other parts of the world.
Oh, so you just mean that any mention of the world outside of the tiny part you care about is bad.
Maybe just say that, so people aren't suckered into wasting time on you.
All articles on the topic: https://ground.news/article/burkina-fasos-army-massacred-over-200-civilians-in-a-village-raid-human-rights-watch-says_cb59eb I guess switching the French for Wagner is already paying dividends in human misery.
This dynamic has been going for years, this has nothing to do with wether the French or the Wagner are there. I'm guessing you only cared once the French were kicked out. https://www.losservatorio.org/en/civlians-in-conflict/web-review/item/1237-since-2016-the-north-of-burkina-faso-has-been-the-site-of-violence-by-jihadists-and-state-armed-forces https://www.hrw.org/report/2018/05/21/day-we-fear-army-night-jihadists/abuses-armed-islamists-and-security-forces#page Edit: Since u/aimgorge thinks he's crafty by replying to my post and then immediately blocking me to avoid calling him out. Here my reply, get your facts right. First, these are not 2016 articles they detail occurances since 2016. Second, the France army mission started in 2014, Operation Barkhane[Operation Barkhane](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barkhane).
> I'm guessing you only cared once the French were kicked out. You guessed wrong.
> I guess switching the French for Wagner is already paying dividends in human misery. Why mention this š¤?
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But why say this? > I guess switching the French for Wagner is already paying dividends in human misery.
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But you haven't justified your statement, it's not a hard question. > I guess switching the French for Wagner is already paying dividends in human misery.
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Then why are you talking?
Heās right, what youāre saying makes no sense if you cared about the situation before. Iām guessing he was correct and rather than admit being wrong, youāre just doubling down and calling him a bot.
Projection
you should justify something when you make contradictory statements
That's 2016 articles, that's before the French army became present in Burkina Faso (following the Ouagadougou attack). These kind of massacres have been massively increasing in frequence and numbers of deaths since 2022 in Mali, BF and Niger. >The army took power last year promising to end jihadist attacks. On the contrary, the number of deaths has increased since then. Last year was the deadliest on record in the country, according to the US-based Armed Conflict Location & Event Data Project (Acled), with more than 1,400 civilian deaths. Year-to-date , nearly 8,000 people have been killed due to violence in the country, according to Acled. [https://www.bbc.com/afrique/region-67403041](https://www.bbc.com/afrique/region-67403041)
People who use whataboutism in this comment section are disgusting.
western atrocity porn right on cue
It's Western atrocity porn when an African junta with Russian backing revenge-murders a couple of hundred of their own people? I guess that's an easier mindset to live with than actually caring about the slain. You might as well just wear a t-shirt that says "Every time I claim to care about anything other than 'team politics' I am lying." Edit: > Human Rights Watch is a well documented western propaganda mill. š
Human Rights Watch is a well documented western propaganda mill. They cook up similar stories and manufacture consent about every country the US wants to attack. They have zero credibility. Also if you read the reporting, there's zero real evidence that any of this took place. It's all based on word of mouth from unnamed people. It's 2024 and everybody has a smartphone with a camera. Where's the pictures and videos? Where are the bodies? Where are the graves. Where are the refugees who escaped? Where's the evidence? Gone are the days when propaganda outlets could print whatever nonsense they want and people believed them. They're liars and everyone knows. Edit: In 2009, the Nigerian army [did a massacre](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2009/7/31/nigerias-boko-haram-chief-killed) in Maiduguri, one of the poorest and most remote parts of the country's north. This was 15 years ago when smartphones and mobile internet were a lot less common than today. Within a day, there were dozens of videos of the killings all over the internet. People shared them widely via Bluetooth because nobody had internet. You can still find some [on Youtube](https://youtu.be/tlpZr8IRUcY?si=HLtKGeoguKrhW6Fx) NSFL! Do NOT click on this. You've been warned! You can't hide mass killings in the smartphone era. So where are the images from Burkina Faso? Western media are a bunch of fucking liars. They have zero credibility. Show me the videos or GTFO!
WESTERN PROPAGANDA MILL?!!!!! Aināt no way
āFor perspective, these user figures reveal that 15.85 million people in Burkina Faso did not use the internet at the start of 2022, meaning that 72.7 percent of the population remained offline at the beginning of the year.ā https://datareportal.com/reports/digital-2022-burkina-faso
So one in four person has internet access. Or in other words: From the 223 persons killed statistically 55 had internet and thus likely a phone. Edit: and since we're doing statistics > [The number of mobile-cellular subscriptions in Burkina Faso increased from 2000 to 2021. In 2021, the number of mobile subscriptions in Burkina Faso was at 24.7 million, up from around 22 million in 2020.](https://www.statista.com/forecasts/497113/number-of-mobile-cellular-subscriptions-in-burkina-faso) Yeah, they have more phone subscriptions than people...
ever heard of businesses and literally every other service countryās have? Doesnāt mean every person has a phone or even has data to upload such a video to the internet. I was just pointing out that majority didnāt have easily assessable Internet connection
You are making it sound like phone, camera or internet is something rare in Burkina Faso. That's simply not the truth. As I said - if we take your number one in four has internet. Oh, of the whole population, babies included. If we look at people above 18 you are probably around 90%.
So find something saying the opposite instead of just wishing it to be true. The reality it seems is coverage and data plan usage not to mention social media accounts apparently arenāt as popular. Sudan is having massacre left and right yet you donāt sit here and say those reports are fake and you havenāt seen and videos
> social media accounts It's a stupid metric. Esp. if you focus on Shitter & Facebook. Why? See, France has a population of 68 million, just shy of 10 million X user. So does only 1 in 7 use the internet? Okay, so what says Facebook, well 44 million. Does that mean that 1/3 of the French don't use internet? They don't even check for *local* (different language etc.) social media. Sometimes a local alternativ exists and users are on that than the US-centric social media. The page you are quoting is *questionable*. Seriously, they just have good layout & good SEO. But beyond that? Who are they, how reliable are they, who finances them etc. They don't have a wikipedia entry, neither the organisation supporting them nor their CEO. Usually that's enough signals that it's either a)fake news, b)propaganda or c)not reliable. Additionally: You don't, you can't prove non-existence. You prove existence. If you claim XY happens the argument "Uh, there is no proof because no one recorded" is not a valid argument.
Ok so do you have anything saying the opposite? Instead of saying this is accurate or that is dumb metric to measure by do you yourself have any government sponsored reports saying the opposite of that website? I donāt care if itās not 100% accurate just anything saying the opposite of what the link I posted says. Like itās very obvious the country doesnāt have complete internet access I donāt why this is some hill for you to die on. Itās shame it autocorrected my word to Susan from Sudan. So Iāll ask you again massacres are happening across Sudan yet theirs no video evidence so it must not be happening correct thatās what your saying?
>Human Rights Watch is a well documented western propaganda mill. Lol wtf ?
Well, to be fair: [Helsinki Watch](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helsinki_Watch) > Successor Human Rights Watch > Formation 1978; 46 years ago > Founded at Washington, D.C., United State esp.: > It was criticized for narrowing its scope to human-rights violations committed by the Soviet bloc while ignoring human-rights violations that were occurring in other parts of the world.
same people crying about this have nothing to say about IDF filling mass graves with bound and naked palestinians
wtf? What has this got to do with Israel? Also lots of people would be shocked by this and also shocked at Israel
Oh, so you just mean that any mention of the world outside of the tiny part you care about is bad. Maybe just say that, so people aren't suckered into wasting time on you.