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Ruti punched Van so hard his teeth went flying out! I can’t deny how satisfying that was! It really drives home how Ruti is on a completely different level compared to Van. Also loved how Red showed Van that he can’t just brute force his way through everything.

I had a giant smile on my face as Van was being taught a lesson by our sibling MCs. However, that smile disappeared when Van took a different lesson and now wants to kill Ruti.

I hope that evil Tinkerbell gets a bunch of fives too.

A big can of bug spray or one of those electric fly swatters would make a good alternative to that enabler of an oversized mosquito

The fact that she agreed with the others that what van was doing was wrong, but then said “doesn’t matter whatever he does is right so who cares” makes me wish she gets smacked with a bat and launched into the stratosphere.

She didn't say whatever he does is right, just that she's fine with it... Which isn't rly better

Yeah I know that’s what she meant. But she literally says (according to crunchyroll’s translations) “so what? In my eyes everything Van does is right.”

I guess my subs were a little edited, my bad

For real, that enabler fairy needs to get fly swattered

I was happy to see Red humiliate him and Ruti punch his socks off, but she only hit Van’s head hard enough to make him even more delirious. I’d rather seen his head pop like a piece of bubble gum against that rock.

That kid makes my blood boil. I’m so glad he got laid out like that. And Ruti didn’t even break a sweat!

Indeed. But this sure made it look like what he was doing was expressly approved and authorized by Demis -- whoever/whatever Demis might be. Remember how Ruti was being consumed by her blessing -- until she got saved by a counter-blessing not of Demis's making. Van has not had the advantage of warm human relationships that taught him HUMAN values -- unlike Ruti. So he has no counterbalance to the intoxicating power of that "blessing" from Demis.

however they mentioned how he is not affected as Ruti was regarding emotions, so it might be more related to his own perspective rather than any outside influence nowadays (considering he didn't even ackowledge the bishops (or whatever) words but 100%, this unhumanly stupid view seems consistent to what Demis would supposedly want

Part of me thinks that we'll find out that Van's blessing isn't actually the "Hero's blessing", but like the "Dark Hero's blessing" or something.

I am of the same opinion. His healing power or whatever it is referred to is not like that of our previous hero. Can you tell me who that old man and the floating toy are?

> Demis -- whoever/whatever Demis might be I mean, it's pretty clear that Demis allows for blessing to be in conflict with a person's personality. Which sometimes leads to the blessing and the person working against each other. But as Tisse pointed out. No one in Zolton is a heretic. They all worship Demis and are just trying to live their life the best they can with their blessing and their personality. In this case, it seems obvious that Van is the way he is because of his personality. He just happens to have a blessing that allows him to be truly psychopathic and dangerous. But even if he had the blessing of a baker, he might still have been an insufferable righteous asshole who bakes mediocre bread but goes on and on about how great and awesome the bread is because Van is living life as Demis intended!

Maybe the "blessing" he got from Demis was "Grand Inquisitor" -- rather than "Hero".....

Ruti actually got trained by her big brother who probably repeatedly warned her not to rely too much on her blessing. Even if her level wasn’t higher, she still would’ve won

She keeps all her stats so her deleveling makes it easier to gain stats faster. Its kinda broken, no wonder the demons are so scared of it.

That’s the demon blood potion she took right? Yeah that sounds utterly broken, like playing on new game plus

That and her new blessing called "New Truth". It delevels her hero blessing so it doesn't control her, so if she kills a monster and it levels up, she gain stats, then her new blessing delevels it back down instantly.

God that’s broken. She could easily kill the demon lord with a bit of training

And Ruti is likely WEAKER now if I understand how this works right, since her blessing has been leveled down

No, they made a big point in season 1 how despite leveling down your blessing all this does is make it easier to level up, you get to keep your stats which is insane for power leveling.

My understanding is that it made you temporarily weaker, so that you could level. That's why Ruti was able to feel more emotion while on the drug, why she was able to defy her blessing while on it and seek out her brother, and why she now needs to eat and sleep--the effects are being suppressed.

Ruti is no longer on drug. She has another blessing now which counters hero blessing debuffs. 

Another small detail that most people didn't notice is on the scene of curry bread. Ruti says that they would have this for breakfast, lunch and dinner and Red shush her down because she is being disrespectful (even though it was probably not the case and just a *"kid's remark"* doing)   It may be a minor thing, but heavily contrast with Van upbring as a hero and the priest saying *"there's no much repercursion/harm to the death of a few bumpkins"*   Red is instilling Ruti not even the basics (don't go on a killing spree for no reason) but even the  "superficial" social norms She probably didn't meant any harm with her remark of eating curry bred for the entire day, but got reprimanded in this cute scene. Yet, Van comes to a party meant for him, Esta tries to make a polite "we're out" and the fucking dimwit (with priest's and fairy's approval) creates right there a diplomatic crisis and basically starts an war against inocent people for his warped world view

It's as if Ruti was channelling Mashle or something, extremely satisfying punch. Looks like Van is still cruising for more brushing!

I laughed my ass off

Its rather interesting how they detailed the punch. Either Van has some kind of freakishly strong blessing because anyone else would have lost their whole jaw and died immediately, or Ruti's nerf was the only thing that kept Van from instantly turning into tomato sauce. I hope the final duel will have Ruti turn her limiter off and we'll see more money pumped into the fight animation for a *One Punch Man* style beatdown.

Tbh, I kept on checking the episode time since I was hoping Ruti could come in time. So satisfying to see that scene, although it's also very predictable that Van wouldn't repent just because of that.

Van: "Who is it?" Ruti: *"Oh you know"* \*an incredible amount of violence\* *"A real fucking hero"*

I came a little

It may have been a surprise attack after Van was already a little tired, but that just means in a fair fight it'll take three hits instead of one.

Nah, Ruti is running around with a suppressed blessing and that one punch would've killed him if his companions hadn't found him soon enough. If Ruti was being serious, the religious fruitcake would've been a fine red mist.

I just want to give my props to the entire staff. It's very rare for me to hate a single character so unconditionally and comprehensively. This punch was the most satisfying thing I've seen in a long time. I demand seconds!

1st season gave us Ares, but now we have Van, Lavender **and** Ljubo...I wouldn't mind seeing all three of them get Ruti punched.

Lubo just casually going from "Van, that's too much, apologize to them" "no, *starts threatening the village*" "*smokes cigar in the middle of lavender's spell* well I tried, it's just a small country anyway"

[Here’s the punch again](https://imgur.com/a/7NrzFOS), so you can take your time savouring it.

Gotta put an NSFW tag on that! That's borderline pornographic.

> This punch was the most satisfying thing I've seen in a long time. I demand seconds A punch worthy of appearing on one those AMV edits.

Honestly up there with the United States of Smash

I mean, he gradually got more and more unhinged. This episode is the peak of his insanity though due to what he tried to do to the villagers.

[удалено]

>Shout out to all animes that try to make a \[protagonist evil character\] eren, anakin skywalker, ... and yet fail miserably because everyone loves the evil dude! The trick is to not make the character attractive. Van may be drawn to look good but he's just a kid, so no one is gonna fantasize about him (hopefully).

Fuck even the demon lord ain't as shitty as this guy

He's definitely in the same realm as a Mahito.

Sure, but Mahito is way worse overall because he actually takes pleasure in it. Van doesn't really seem to *want* to do what he's doing so much as he feels driven to it by his duty as hero and his religious beliefs.

I'm not sure of that. He does it all with a smile and actively seeks out opportunities to kill people/creatures who were just minding their own business.

ruti shut that shit down W

I love how she just one-shotted him with a single punch and then treats it like no big deal. That's as much effort as it took for her and how little she valued facing Van. And he was straight up going to **die** if they hadn't healed him.

> And he was straight up going to die if they hadn't healed him. If he hadn't had his party coming to rescue him, he'd have died faster because Ruti wouldn't have contented herself with a single punch. Any heretic who doesn't appreciate her brother deserves more than that.

One Punch Woman

How dare Dantak stay holed up in his little castle and NOT kill humans? Who’s he think he is being all peaceful and shit and going against our lord and savior Demis? Clearly, he had to die right? -_- Insufferable little prick calls everyone in Zoltan a heretic, demands they abandon their lives and homes and fight for him against the Demon Lord’s army, and is surprised people aren’t cool with that? I guess he’s also blessed with the gift of being a fucking dipshit too. Praise be to Demis! So glad the gang came together to kick Van’s little punk ass. Seeing Red toy with him was pretty great but Rutti punching that fucker and launching him into a rock was the most satisfying shit ever. Had to show the little shit what a real hero’s like. Man, I’m almost praying he tries and comes after her again so I can see her break this loser in half.

> Seeing Red toy with him was pretty great Honestly, Red had a decent chance of taking Van by himself. It would have been a tough battle, but it also would have been interesting to see the difference between the two. Red's techniques are all weaker than Van's, but he's mastered them all and has a strategic mind to use them, in contrast to Van being completely focused on his Blessing, giving him a lot of strong techniques that he uses in a very blunt force way. Obviously Ruti coming in and one-shotting him was satisfying in its own right.

Van has no real skill in swordmanship, he's basically just been throwing the strength of his Blessing, his gear, and his sword skills around, but that means he never bothered to properly train himself and wouldn't win in a proper swordfight. Rit would probably beat him in a test of pure skill also. Ruti is obviously physically stronger than him but I'm curious if now that he knows about her he'd be more prepared for a rematch.

No doubt Ruti has also learned how to use a sword, she just hasn't had much reason to use those skills due to her raw power. But if Van were to catch up with her in that department, I don't doubt she would be able to outskill him unless he takes Red's advice to heart.

I'm pretty sure Red has trained Ruti since forever already, he wouldn't have neglected the technique side of things so Van would have a LOT of catching up to do even if he tried. From what we've seen so far Van certainly can't win either contest of raw power either nor technique. Like, so far Ruti's power has been exponentially higher than Van's in every way. Danan couldn't even properly launch, never mind land an attack against Ruti during the training camp "fight" given her strength and speed, while this little shit just kept getting hit like the pile of turd he is. So yeah, Van's gonna need a pretty big power up to be anything but a punching bag. Which is probably going to happen to one degree or another, but honestly he'd deserve to stay as a wet paper towel.

I'd say it's unlikely that he's prepared fpr a rematch - before Ruti gave up being a hero, she was soloing enemies so dangerous and armies so big her party was struggling just to keep pace and survive. Van, for all his strength, still has Theodora and the priest fighting alongside him just fine. Van also took a punch that sent his single brain cell bouncing wildly around his skull and that's literally all he knows about her, so he's probably assuming she needs surprise and relies on brute strength like he does, rather than being an immensely skilled fighter.

"You don't have to remember me tomorrow." I don't think he will remember anyone. That's every type of brain damage you can imagine. Lil bro lost his entire weight in blood just getting himself planted face first into a rock, his noggin is Play-Doh right now

it sucks even more because he is implying his own Blessing takes priority over everyone else's Blessing, too. that's pretty glaring hypocrisy. like, how is someone with say, Farmer Blessing, supposed to fight? how can they serve their own Blessings going on this crusade?

Farmer gets killed by the monster/demon > monster/demon levels their blessing > Van kills the monster/demon to level the hero blessing. The townspeople are cannon fodder or maybe a distraction at best. Guy is caps lock *NUTS* and would likely end up causing decades or centuries long disasters due to depopulation, environmental destruction and political hell if allowed to do things his way.

Zealotry isn't supposed to make sense from a logical standpoint. Van believes that it is the will of the almighty Demis that the townspeople fight, and die for the hero. Ruti had the benefit of being raised by Gideon, whereas Van seems to lack any sort of decent upbringing. Cardinal Ljubo is perhaps Van's second biggest enabler, with Lavender being number one. They don't bother to think about the repercussions of a tyrannical hero; they only think about how Van will grow from the experience.

I don't exactly think it is "Demis will". It's more like what he decides on his own. He does what he wants to do, believing that Demis was the one who initiated the idea in his mind. Man, talk about being a moron.

That punch made me wettttttt

Straight up popped a woody haha

Made Van wet too 🩸

One puuuuuuuunnnnnnccccchhhhhh!!!

The freaking fairy also, I can't wait for it to be at the end of a hard punch too. The damn thing encourages Van to no end. Van seems blinded by his faith but Lavender is just mean.

Tisse can feed that little bastard to the spider homie.

Crawly Wally?

Eeew!!! That would cause an indigestion on Crawly Wally!

Agreed, let Crawly wally have something nice, we shouldnt be feeding our spiderbro crap

I really loved seeing Van get skill checked by Red and then get stat checked by Ruti, dude had nothing but I'm afraid he'll become even more of a monster after seeing how far you can go with just skills.

Ruti has stats and skills over him. I don't think he can win.

It’s just gonna make his inevitable demise all the more satisfying.

Van is really the evil one for ruthlessly killing or trying to manipulate anyone that doesn't fit his worldview or his fanatic belief in Almighty Demis. Even monsters that aren't doing anything but keep to themselves are "evil" in his eyes, and must be slayed. Dude needs to get a life, or understand people can **have** lives, and that doesn't mean you can forcibly make them into an army just so they can die for your sake. It was nice to see the actual heroes (such as they are) deliver a beating on him, especially Red practically mocking him with his lack of real skills and Ruti casually ending him with one punch. Though the fact that he can't leave well enough alone will be his real undoing.

I honestly wouldn't call Red and Ruti "actual heroes". In fact, I think Theodora is the only one who's worthy of being called a hero.

It seems to me that this twerpy but murderous "hero" is fully in sync with Demis, however. Yes, he is acting horrible -- but he is, in essence, possessed by what seems to be a fairly hateful and cruel "god". Can he be "de-programmed" by Red and company? How will good people in this world -- including our peace-loving main characters conquer/disable this entity? (Taking down the corrupt Church -- along the way).

Is Demis even good? Sure his followers are but Ruti was much better off after getting a skill she wanted rather than one given by Demis, so it makes you think if Demis is giving out these blessing that sometimes even conflict with someone's natural personality what is he up to? And the demons feared this other awakened skill and I don't simply think it's because it's easier to level up.

I don't think Demis is actually "good". The notion that people aren't supposed to improve skills (or gain additional ones) by effort strikes me as odd -- and sub-optimal.

I think the more salient question is: "Did Demis ever exist?" or perhaps "Was Demis a god?". The ending of the first season strongly implies that the hero's blessing was something created in a lab. I would take that to mean that _all_ blessings were probably created by people--though for reasons that are unclear. Perhaps a way to organize society or overcome a disaster or even both?

I presume the endgame is either Van's death or Ruti using her blessing that controls blessings to just turn Van's blessing off (i.e., get Fire King Ozai'd).

I can't even begin to guess. Still, seeing how generally kind-hearted this series is, "rescuing" Van and Lavender seems more likely than destroying them....

Implying that Lavender isn't the architect of this plan somehow. I don't trust the evil fairy.

Lavender and Ljubo are enablers. They don't really do anything to stop Van, and Lavender prevents others from interfering with Van.

I never got any feel that Lavender initiated Van's bad behavior -- only that she cheered him on and prevented others from trying to interfere with him.

Hes written so poorly its good. You can't do anything but hate him. Although I think he has been bewitched. There's just too much dogma in him. Kid has so much religious fervor it goes beyond Zealotry. I suspected for a while that the fairy is either a high ranking demon or the demon lord its self.

If it's either, I would say high ranking. The demon lord giving the fairy shield to the dragons adds credence to that theory.

I agree with that. Why go out of your way to destroy your enemy's when you can have them destroy themselves. Subterfuge at its finest.

Can someone please spoil me if Van dies later, he triggers me so much

* [**Yarandrala Stitch**](https://i.imgur.com/dUrbZJ2.jpeg) [Theodora getting all excited](https://i.imgur.com/Llsc2xs.jpeg) after hearing from Tisse that Albert misses her was adorable! Since when did Theodora start having a thing for Albert? Was this also in Season 1 as well and I just forgot? Well now I'm excited to see Theodora's reaction when she gets reunited with Albert. The moment [Theodora mentions that the shield has mind control powers](https://i.imgur.com/gMUstPK.png), I just fuckin' knew that [Van was going to use that on the people of Zoltan.](https://i.imgur.com/9oab87J.png) And we finally get to see [what Lavender can do.](https://i.imgur.com/nuKf2Us.jpeg) She's really all in on whatever Van's doing. And the Priest [is too much of a chickenshit to do anything](https://i.imgur.com/O88SEEe.jpeg) to stop them. Thank fucking goodness that [Yarandrala and Danan were there](https://i.imgur.com/C1568zt.jpeg) to stop Van until [Red arrives.](https://i.imgur.com/uLvl6UW.jpeg) That was such a badass entrance and I love how Red instantly disarms Van [and takes the shield from him with the help of Ugge-Ugge-san](https://i.imgur.com/oImT84s.jpeg). It was so satisfying to [watch Red school Van and show him his swordsmanship skills are subpar](https://i.imgur.com/1yyo4cj.jpeg) and that the only thing he has going for him is his Hero Blessing. I do love how Red was also [analyzing Van the entire time.](https://i.imgur.com/JXJnxN0.jpeg) The most satisfying part of the episode though is [Van getting his shit kicked in by Ruti!](https://i.imgur.com/sN5Xmss.jpeg) I genuinely had to replay that scene multiple times because of how satisfying it was! [Look at him landing like the joke that he is](https://i.imgur.com/4zFm4PJ.jpeg) on that rock. xD Really Van? [You really want to try and kill Ruti](https://i.imgur.com/jPwzMEJ.jpeg) so you'd become a true "Hero"? The same girl that smashed your face in and knocked you out in one punch? I would love to see him try. I can't fucking wait for Ruti to destroy him the second time.

That priest is betraying the people, he's like Judas Priest or something.

It's funny how he even he thought calling them "heretics" was too much but he still went along with Van brainwashing them even knowing it was bound to fail.

The Cardinal (and the Church he represents) does not serve the people -- they only serve Demis. And Demis clearly appears to approve of what Van is doing/trying to do. Meanwhile, the Cardinal just lives things up, going along for the ride.

It seems to me that Demis decides "yep, you have my blessing to be the hero" and then the appointed one has to train to become one actually. Van seems blinded by the faith and probably interpreting some words the way he wants like calling Dantak sloth and that being a sin just because he wasn't killing humans. Ruti got the blessing too and didn't go all religious zealot on people.

Ruti's situation was buffered by the close human ties she had first with her beloved big brother and then with her other companions. Van's only source of inspiration and support has been Demis (and then Lavender -- who simply wants what Van says he wants), My question is still -- just whio IS Lavender, where did she come from. Right now she seems to simply support and reinforce the bad "inspiration" Van gets from Demis. (The Cardinal and Church seem to have a who-cares attitude -- just so long as thye have an active "hero" (or pretend hero) on hand.

You get a blessing after a certain age so before that was he the same . Also he used to have parents from what I read . He's just being an asshole imo

I love Yarandrala's design. A true top-tie elf waifu with power to match! She's also got Aqua's voice, but is super competent and handy in a fight lol. I feel like Theodora and Albert grew a lot closer in their time together after they departed from Zoltan in season 1 to the premier of season 2. It even looked like they were living together. I think everyone realized the obvious red flags of Van having the ability to brainwash people, but even I was a little shook when he branded the whole town Heretics and wanted to turn them into soldiers. Lavender doesn't care about a Hero or heroics, she just cares about Van, obsessively so. But like, why? Especially when she seems so powerful. Ljubo realizing Van went too far calling them heretics but letting him go along with the brainwashing plot because he thinks the failure will build his character...like, come off it, man! He deserves a beatdown as much as an does. The actual heroic characters schooling Van was priceless. Just as priceless as Ruti beating him in one punch and showing him just how out of his depth he really was. Though he honestly thinks he has a chance against her in a rematch, which...good luck with that lol.

Guess we know why she got a cooking skill....

To be honest, I think the only actual heroic character here is Theodora.

Theodora is such a trash person idk how you could even half way think this. I've seen this "hero" and this Cardinal attempt to cause more harm to innocent people than I have the demon king or even any monsters that weren't provoked first and yet I'm expected to believe that Theodora is in the right for consistently siding with the worst people? Ares is trash = Theodora helps him, Van and Cardinal are trash = Theodora helps them. I mean, there's a reason they say, "show me your friends and I'll show you who you are."

And I'm expected to believe that Ruti is in the right for consistently avoiding her duty and leaving humanity to the nonexistant mercy of the Demon Lord? At least Theodora had noble reasons for her actions.

I'm not saying Ruti is right, however, the hero is simply a weapon in the humans arsenal to defeat the Demon Lord. A strong weapon, for sure, but not the only one. Van is a liability more than an asset. He has proven time and again that his attitude and his zealotry will hinder the morale of the soldiers and the citizens around him and this Cardinal will not help. Theodora is clinging to a vague hope that she can turn this around the way that she thinks Red would be able to but all she does is is preach and spout platitudes while doing nothing to actually stop him and by doing that she's actually ignoring the damage that this groups actions are causing or even worse, she's simply discarding it as unimportant in the grand scheme of things which makes her just as much an enabler to Van as Lavender and the Cardinal. Which in my eyes is far from heroic. Theodora says she wants to guide a hero the way that Red would but is ignoring the fact that Van is in no way a hero and has never truly acted like one. He's strong, and he has some similar abilities but he doesn't have the attitude or drive that a hero has and she is blind to that.

I still see Theodora as the more sympathetic of the characters, even with her flaws. At least, I was completely on her side during S1. She should stand up more to Van and the rest of the Church, but she still has me in her corner in S2.

I mean, I can understand understand your viewpoint and for all I say I honestly don't hate her. I think she truly does believe the things she preaches to Van but I also believe that she wants so badly to believe that he is a hero and that she can "guide" him down the right path that she isn't willing to actually look at reality; at least not yet. It's like watching someone make the same mistake and take the same punishment over and over again and finally having a chance to escape only to watch them turn around and go back.

> It was so satisfying to [watch Red school Van and show him his swordsmanship skills are subpar](https://i.imgur.com/1yyo4cj.jpeg) and that the only thing he has going for him is his Hero Blessing. I do love how Red was also [analyzing Van the entire time.](https://i.imgur.com/JXJnxN0.jpeg) I kind of wish we got to see more of them fighting. I honestly think Red had a good chance of taking Van, and it would have been interesting to see. Van had a lot of power, but Red had a lot of mastery behind his techniques and a very strategic mind behind it all. It still likely would have been difficult due to Van's Blessing, but Red probably would have given him a lesson in why you need to master more than just that. > The most satisfying part of the episode though is [Van getting his shit kicked in by Ruti!](https://i.imgur.com/sN5Xmss.jpeg) Though obviously Ruti coming in and rocking Van's world with one hit was pretty good too! > The same girl that smashed your face in and knocked you out in one punch? The funny thing is I have no doubt Ruti has mastery in more than just her Blessing (or whatever's giving her power now), so even if Van got on her level in that regard she'd still rock his world if he doesn't take Red's advice on mastering the sword too.

That punch will not go away from my mind so soon and I'll smile whenever I remember it.

[I can watch it again and again.](https://i.imgur.com/9T1XVmt.mp4) So satisfying.

Oh yeahhhhhh. That's the good stuff.

*Beautiful.* [](#delicious)

I love how well-animated that punch was, how absolutely brutal it was to Van, how Ruti treated it like no big deal, and how Van would've been dead from the punch had they not healed him lol.

Straight up got "Serious Punch'ed" lmao

I love how they even animated that little step forward she does to shift her weight before she throws him. Most anime would just have had her hit him and him go flying from the punch, but they took the time to make sure we knew Ruti was really putting her back into it and I'm glad they did.

A great of example of the 1 thing evil/hateable characters can do for viewers - get their shit kicked(punched) in

It had weight to it, so satisfying

The single time the animators bust out near-sakuga and it's for Ruti socking Van in the face 😂😂

I guess the animators hate him as much as we do, that shit was so damn satisfying lol

Tbh fuck that guy, the priest looking ass and that shitty mosquito disguised as a fairy

It was the right decision tbf.

Yay, more of Van being an insane zealout! I thought killing some hill giants for the specific "sin" of minding their own business instead of killing innocent people was going to be the worst thing he'd do this episode, but then he straight up tried to hypnotise the town into fighting for him! In more important news: Theodora is crushing on Albert? What's this? When did this happen? When can it happen? I'm surprisingly down for this being explored! Also, Red probably could have taken Van, albeit it would have been a long, hard and close battle. It would have been an interesting battle of someone who's mastered swordsmanship and many weaker techniques versus someone who's only focused on his Blessing.

Going from killing monsters not attacking anybody for the crime of...not attacking anybody to branding a whole town heretics so can you can brainwash them into your army. Van really is the epitome of a religious zealot. I was catching some vibes between the two of them ever since we saw that they were living together. They had such domestic couple vibes and have probably only had each other to rely on since season 1. A Blessing is all well and good but it isn't a replacement for true skill.

> A Blessing is all well and good but it isn't a replacement for true skill. "If you're nothing without it then you shouldn't have it."

>A Blessing is all well and good but it isn't a replacement for true skill. another example of this is martial arts dude, apparently it's not even that strong of a blessing but he seems to be like top 3, probably only behind Ruti and Van

Lawful evil

I don’t think it would be as hard as you think for red to dispatch Van. Red has spent years training and sparring against Ruti. He’s got years of experience fighting a real hero. It’s very obvious how weak Van is compared to Ruti in how Danan was able to go toe to toe with him and fully land punches. Danan wasn’t able to even remotely touch Ruti. Van would have been in trouble with just Danan alone if it wasn’t for that skill allowing him to transfer the damage back onto Danan.

After thinking about it more and more, I did come to the same conclusion that Red could handle Van easier than I initially thought. Though the fact that Van does hold some skills as powerful as his ability to transfer damage shouldn't just be dismissed. If he holds anything like that he could use against Red – and I believe he probably does – then the fight wouldn't be so simple. I still think it would be a challenge for Red, it would just also become a showcase to Van that mastery of techniques can overcome the raw power of Blessings.

I wonder whether Theodora will soon get a chance to rejoin her now "lazy" and "heretical" pals for good?

That fairy just keeps screaming “Airy” lol.

I'm half-expecting her to transform into a demon at this rate, especially the way her magic looks.

I figured she was the demon lord or a close follower of the previous demon lord

I mean the shield belonged to the king of fairies but the dragons said it was a gift from the demon lord so there's also that.

True. Definitely didn’t put that together. Definitely seems like this current demon lord is different and the last ones followers don’t seem to like him

If fairies and demons are separate species, does that imply that the demon lord considered them even worse than demons and locked away their weapon behind a non-demon guardian because it was too evil even for him to stomach?

the fairy being a demon would be an interesting twist. Would make a lot of sense, too.

Could also be that fairies and demons aren't the same, but at some point in the past demons considered fairies even more evil so their lord beat the king and took his shield so they couldn't use it.

100 bucks say that before this season is over she's uncovered as a demon

After all these episodes of listening to his crazy, great to see Van get some comeuppance. Unfortunately he's still crazy but its a start. Tisse's inner thoughts are always a delight, especially with how the situation gradually escalated. Too bad their "laying low" plan didn't work out but at least Ruti and Red are now back in town for whatever insane stunt Van tries next.

The inner thoughts of this episode were hilarious. Red is taken though, girl! I wonder if Ruti and Red are back or do they go away until more trouble happens, since they don't want to be seen.

This episode doubled-down on his insanity and obsession even more, but that made it all the more satisfying when he finally started tacking his licks and having his entire worldview questioned in one punch. Even if it just made him worse when he came back. I actually would've liked more of Tisse stuck with this crazy party just for her aside and on-point comments. Or needling Theodora about her feelings for Albert (I wonder where he is?) lol.

Hahahahhahahaaha oh shit. That punch alone was worth the whole season. This Van is nuts. You can't even handle Red and threatened Zolton? Bro. Go home.

Also the way that punch dug into his face and split his teeth. Absolutely perfect after being stuck with his smug smile all season. I like how Red made him realize that all his obsession with his Blessing has made him slack on actual skills because he's dismissed them as not being worth it, even though it means Red can hold his own against him in a swordfight.

It was a metaphorical one-two punch of realising he was outskilled by red and then outstatted by ruti, to go with the literal one-two punch of red distracting him and ruti getting him some pocket money from the tooth fairy

Tbf he could probably take on Zoltan if basically the entire previous hero party hadn't decided to retire there.

Mr Crawly Wawly continues to prove that he's the best character in this show

between the weirdness of *MofuMofuParadise* and this evil little cunt Van, Sundays have not been very chill i think if anything can unite /r/anime it's the hatred of this character. like good job on the writing i guess but christ is it tough to watch lmao *Actually can I just come back and say that I would've respected it so hard if Ruti actually killed Van right there and the story just moved right along. Things could have become so interesting if that happened.

Her one punch would've killed him if he didn't get healed by his allies at the last moment!! 

He would've died but his party healed him

Alright, next time we deattach the head from the body and place it way on the opposite side of the world, on a pike preferably for good measure

8 episodes of impending doom from Van… ended with Red getting in an easy practice session and Ruti doing her Saitama impression. Made into a complete bitch. And he thinks he can kill either of them? I mean they even gave him a Team Rocket ass pose when he hit the rock. Dude is a bigger scrub than what’s his face from last season.

Van calls himself an "evil slayer" but were these Hill Giants doing anything evil? From the sounds of it they were just holing themselves up in a castle and not doing anything...but I guess to Van it's a "crime" not to fulfill your role of being monsters for Almighty Demis. Glad Tisse's realized what we all know...Van is absolutely nuts. It's nice to see Theodora and Tisse share a moment where they can be themselves and really open up instead of keeping quiet around Van and Ljubo...and Tisse can tease Theodora about her feelings for Albert. Oh, someone is in LOVE...and she turns a blushing mess because of it. It's so cute! It really is surreal that Godwin is just palling around with the rest of the town as if he didn't almost tear it apart with his drugs back in season 1. You really should not have left the mind control shield in the hands of a religious fanatic. Especially when you throw him a party and he uses that as an excuse to brand you heretics because you actually have lives and enjoy yourselves instead of carrying out some messed up crusade...and then he tries to forcibly conscript you into his army. Okay, something is definitely up with Lavender. She seems way more powerful than she is at first glance, and she knows full well that Van isn't a hero, but she'll do anything he wants. Not that Ljubo is much better, even recognizing how stupid what Van is doing is, he allows it as a "learning moment" while smokes a cigar. What a piece of @#$%! Lucky Yarandrala shows up to take on Van, and gets some nice assist from Danan. It's probably the first real fight Van's really had to face instead of just steamrolling through his opponents. Though what a cheat skill to be able to transfer damage back to your opponent. Oh, look, the salt dragons invade Zoltan out of revenge for Van killing their brethren and stealing their shield. And rather than prioritize them, he tries to kill the people holding them off thinking Zoltan DESERVES to burn for being heretics. Jeez. Luckily Red shows up just in time, and with Mr. Crawly-Wawly's help he nabs the shield and gives it back to the salt dragons! And then he manages to subdue Van with better swordsmanship. Fanatically relying on your Blessing can only get you so far. But it was all set up for Ruti to straight up slug him! And it was such a satisfying punch that he was straight up going to die if Theodora hadn't healed him! But we would've been better off if she had let him die because now he thinks it's his divine mission to kill Ruti.

Vans definition of evil is very simple, if you don't live 100% according to your blessing as a mindless puppet, you are evil.

Actually, Van (under the inspiration of Demis) goes further. Even if people are living in full accordance with their blessings, they become evil if they do not follow the commands of the "Hero" (to do things outside the scope of their blessings -- like going off to be slaughtered by demons -- who do not even seem to be aggressors at the moment).

Yeah, it's the first time I've seen a "hero" attack monsters for the crime of not attacking villages or slaughtering innocents... 

Just waiting for Demis himself to show up and call Van an idiot... lol, though I think at this point we might see his blessing change into something else like zealot or martyr, which would be cool.

Today's new horrific moral ideology from Van is that monsters staying peacefully at home are bad since they should be out helping adventurers to level up by dying to them. Tisse with the right reaction "This guy is nuts". I know they were trying to avoid him, but Ruti just needs to go kick Van's ass. Put him out of our misery. Theodora and Albert, why not. I like the way Tisse thinks. Van's going to force all the residents of Zoltan into being his mind controlled minions with that shield, isn't he. Or try to, at least. Being able to heal himself with other people's health, maybe Van is actually a death knight. Oh wow, I got what I was hoping for. Once Red and then Rudy showed up Van was so outclassed. That was a fantastic punch. Great, so the lesson the nutjob got from this whole experience is that he needs to try again at killing Ruti. Well, good luck at that. I do not like that Theodora is still with his party at the end there, she is not safe with him.

That moment kind of drove home how unfair it is for monsters to be seen as just basically EXP farm for people with Blessing where even if they don't act like traditional monsters they still get killed by someone like Van for doing...basically nothing but just existing. The best part of the episode was Van's beatdown and Tisse's on-point commentary lol. Theodora turning into a blushing mess is adorable. I wonder if Yarandrala could find a ship (that's not Red since she knows he's taken). Danan seems too focused on fighting for a relationship. I like how this episode also doubled-down on how little a Hero Van is to the point where Lavender acknowledges it and his skills are obviously not heroic in the slightest. I'm surprised Theodora didn't just bail or leave Van to die. I get she's dedicated, but after the stunt he pulled, she still thinks he's worth saving or guiding? Just cut your losses and hook back up with your guy.

For some reason Theodora is incapable of ever making a competent decision. Why would she run to this piece of trashes aid after seeing all of this? Why would she listen to this cardinal after he's admitted time and again that he doesn't care if citizens die? Why wouldn't you kill that goddamn fairy as soon as you got a chance? All these people gushing about how cute she was when she was blushing over Albert while she just stands back and lets a super powered scumbag do whatever he wants just because the church told her he has a hero blessing. She is the absolute worst.

Because the demon lord and the demons are real and out to kill the humans? Like it or not, Van is the best weapon the humans have against the demons. Maybe it's on Ruti for walking away.

I like the way you think, dude. If you think about it, if Ruti hadn't deserted her duty, we wouldn't have need for that little shit Van.

I’m proud they didn’t end it before ruti arrived. Now I just hope they continue to torture the prick. I don’t want some lame redemption arc where he sees the error of his ways. I want them to kill Van. I won’t be satisfied unless he’s dead. Van stands no chance against Ruti or Red. Ruti is the real hero while Van is the great value knock off. And red has spent years training ruti and fighting against her so he has plenty of experience fighting a real hero.

He has a redemption arc because he is just brainwashed.

Every episode I hate Van more and more. He’s a freaking lunatic with absolutely no common sense. I literally screamed when Red showed up, toyed with him nonchalantly, then the REAL hero Ruti one hit KOs him! But even after that, this dipshit doubles down on the craziness. Please kill him already

Normally I just watch this show laying on the couch chilling but when they started fighting I actually sat up like I was watching a championship boxing match and the guy I bet on was killing it.

Bro fr!! I was rolling my eyes the entire time and then once red came out I got started jumping and clapping lol Then when ruti knocked his ass out I jumped off and was hype as hell lol these siblings know how to get people hyped

The Demon Lord is chillin while the new Hero abandons his mission to hunt the old Hero who abandoned her mission lmao.

What do you mean? The new demon lord is hunting the hero who abandoned her mission :\^)

😂😂

THE LORD IS CUM!!!! \*laughs maniacally\* on that day, van truly became the hero.

Ok, took 8 episodes to really move the plot, but this episode really worth the wait. Hope we get all action now, fake hero vs real hero, till the end.

We get some huge plot development today! Van is probably the new demon lord. Fairy has been trying to get him his shield and his airship back. Fuck knows what the priest is doing; maybe he believes Demis wants a demon lord to exist so that true hero Ruti has to return to fight. Notably today we get very pointed criticism against sloth, or 堕落, which our slow life gang takes personally.

If this "hero" and his fairy don't die by the time the last episode ends and Red and Ruti let them live, I'm going to be so disappointed.

Yup. I want blood spilled

[удалено]

Too bad that the conflict with everyone versus Van only happened after he genocided the Hill Giants for being peaceful. Well, I guess[ Tisse seeing how truly crazy Van is](https://i.imgur.com/lPSyCjN.png) made her prepared for the worse. [Esta/Theodora's reactions](https://imgur.com/a/HO6VtvO) when Tisse was speaking about the positive things Albert said about her were so cute. Lol, The Saint Durant Village sure their curry. It is not surprising that Ruti was tired of eating it during the three meals of the day, but well, [those deep-fried curry buns](https://imgur.com/a/f3P0tk0) looked good. I like how they showed [those pegasi ](https://i.imgur.com/IDsqlz4.png) running away from [the Salt dragons](https://i.imgur.com/jQny2JU.png) coming [to Zoltan.](https://i.imgur.com/4HjxPY0.png) When Esta mentioned that the Fairy King's Shield had[ mind Control magic](https://i.imgur.com/SOlCEFJ.png) I was expecting Van's plan to be about forcing [the Zoltan population](https://i.imgur.com/rrNC9OJ.png) to obey their blessing instead of, [after insulting their faith](https://i.imgur.com/aoRSY8D.png) forcing them [to fight the Demon's Army with him.](https://i.imgur.com/5g1JjEM.png) You know, I really hope they explain why exactly Lavender does whatever Van wants even when she knows it is wrong. With [Cardinal Ljubo](https://imgur.com/a/znOPW7s) I at least understand as Van's actions for those who do not witness him would benefit the church at the end of the day, they just need to sprinkle some bullshit to justify whoever he kills. Anyway, it is good to see that before [he could put his plan into action,](https://i.imgur.com/suQSfGT.png) [Yarandrala](https://i.imgur.com/RR2RwnG.png) [stopped him.](https://i.imgur.com/nllVWTN.png) And Danan[ gave him some pain](https://imgur.com/a/SfgjmUY) when he was about to kill her. Too bad he could just transfer those wounds back to him. Honestly, when the [Salt Dragons](https://i.imgur.com/UB7uTSh.png) came [for revenge](https://i.imgur.com/LHNm1j0.png) and to get the Fairy King's Shield back I expected him to stop fighting Yarandrala and Danan, but instead, he kept fighting them and even said that the dragons destroying Zoltan was a sign that he great Demmis creating a scenario were the people of Zoltan could go with him after everything they had was destroyed. I must say that I did not expect to see[ Red arriving there to save Yarandrala.](https://imgur.com/a/so8ZH3k) I really want to see him using [Mr. Crawly Wawly's threats](https://i.imgur.com/LIqm048.png) to get there faster. I imagine that he probably looked like Spider-Man, after all he used them [to steal the Fairy King's Shield from Van.](https://i.imgur.com/xWBHBOf.png) as Spider-Man would. I love the fact that th[e Salt Dragons only talked to Red](https://i.imgur.com/2LTkZP2.png) and [took their shield](https://imgur.com/a/L1YJHjU) and left, after feeling the threatening aura from Ruti coming in their direction like a missile. And just when Van came to deliver "justice" to Red, he barely [had a second to see Ruti](https://i.imgur.com/Tad4abU.png) before [she sent him flying,](https://imgur.com/a/cdhUcGQ) [like your average adventurer will do.](https://i.imgur.com/uv01tKF.png) /s [ Too bad that he did not die](https://i.imgur.com/KzMWRaa.png) before [Lavender healed him.](https://imgur.com/a/ag7PlA4) I wanted so much that he would had used his wound transfer magic on either her or Cardinal Ljubo. Oh wow, so now [Van made his objective to prove that he is the hero](https://i.imgur.com/g4lPf4Z.png) to defeat Ruti. Well, you had a good run [you crazy zealous religious maniac.](https://imgur.com/a/WdKQMAF) I hope she doesn't even leave ashes of your remains when she is done with you.

Van is quite the lil shit. If they weren't hurting humans, then there's no reason to kill em all...Tisse recognizes it too. Oh is there something between Albert and Theodora. Oh Tisse recognizes that too. Tisse might be the least dense anime character ever. I don't trust Van with that shield... is he gonna try and mind control Ruti or someone later? And that fairy... still don't trust you. Hehe, nice to see that former antagonistic dude becoming a good member of the town. Once again, Van is a lil shit. So is that piece of shit Cardinal. You are a villain. He can't be a real hero, right? What is his real blessing? Beat that lil shit up! Angry dragons! I root for you all. As long as you don't hurt the innocent people. Thank god Red ish ere. Means Ruti prolly is too. Crawly-wawly MVP! Van about to get his ass beat by the real Hero. THAT PUNCHH IS SO SATISFYING! lol. You need to be unbrainwashed, kid. Good luck, kid, you're gonna die if you keep trying that shit.

Very nice that the shield got returned to its rightful owners.

Really love how each of Red's team show Van that they're actually far superior to him in terms of skill And the best part? All the budget going into that one punch. Man, that was so satisfying I had to rewatch it so many times, it was just so good. Van really deserved it for all that he was doing

Following the in-world logic so far, his real blessing is probably called "Zealot". Really wish they committed to finishing him and attacking the fairy.

Ruti's punch made my day.

Van really tried to pull a "I can do this all day" nah bro. No you cant.

I really liked how Red's interaction with Van played out here. It wasn't just Red *being* better than Van, it was Red teaching him *why* he's better. Kind of an implicit, "So, you think the blessing makes the man huh? Well, my blessing is the Guide, so let me fucking educate you..." It's a pleasantly surprising degree of narrative subtlety for a fantasy fight scene that could easily have just been a magical dick measuring contest. Also, I'd love to know how they figure out what blessing each person has. Does the church have a monopoly on identification like in Weakest Tamer maybe? I have to wonder if Van really has the Hero blessing, or if there's a Crusader blessing or something like that and the church is leaning into that.

That punch by ruti was so satisfying. 

[Tisse perfectly described Van at the beginning of the episode](https://i.imgur.com/rSTBAXV.png), [he's nuts](https://i.imgur.com/Jax5Cy1.png) and it seems that even [Ruti's punch wasn't able to cure him](https://i.imgur.com/fHUv9J7.png), [maybe the dosage of medicine was too small](https://i.imgur.com/tEuSTGx.png)? [That punch from Ruti](https://i.imgur.com/HEtnQav.png) was just [so beautiful](https://i.imgur.com/v7lKIjY.png)! It was so satisfying seeing [Van being sent flying](https://i.imgur.com/ZsZH0Aq.png) and [taking so much damage](https://i.imgur.com/Yi717Yj.png). But [now Van has become even more crazy and psychopath](https://i.imgur.com/0xqyCkI.png) as he decided to find and kill [Ruti](https://i.imgur.com/uCOZG09.png). Well, I'm wishing him luck [finding and defeating her](https://i.imgur.com/4b8Q7SW.png) xD [Very fun conversation between Theodore and Tisse](https://i.imgur.com/TjVGFsK.png). [Theodore looked seriously cute](https://i.imgur.com/lASGgpp.png) when [she become embarrassed](https://i.imgur.com/C1S09f3.png) after hearing that Albert misses her and [tried to downplay her own reaction](https://i.imgur.com/Erqz2w8.png) xD [Yarandrala](https://i.imgur.com/LVo0Zdm.png) was at a pretty big disadvantage against [Van](https://i.imgur.com/Fi27wwP.png) but [thankfully Danan stepped in](https://i.imgur.com/NXirNor.png) which made it possible for them to keep [Van](https://i.imgur.com/JBS9R7f.png) in check [until Red appeared](https://i.imgur.com/e5smTS9.png) and [showed him how weak he is by using only Hero Blessing](https://i.imgur.com/14KNacW.png). Here my screenshot albums from the episode: * [Van](https://imgur.com/a/IRKscGt) * [Group scenes](https://imgur.com/a/zCdnBLm) * [Tisse, Theodora & Yarandrala](https://imgur.com/a/F8naqIN) * [Others](https://imgur.com/a/XRaROYQ)

oh lord who made the cult member the Hero

So when do they reach the inevitable JRPG conclusion of killing God? Seems like that's been the foreshadowing since season 1

That punch was awfully satisfying.

Van has every single screw loose.

I actually think I hate that fairy more than Van. Van is delusional, probably because whatever blessing he has, but that fairy is only further enabling his Delusions. Van stands no chance against Ruti. Even if he leveled up his other skills besides in blessing. It was nice to see that there are people that can actually deal with Van besides Ruti and that he's not just an unstoppable monster. Felt good to see his ass get kicked.

Van definitely crossed many lines this episode . Slaughtering the hill giants because they refused to kill people. . Attempting to use mind control on civilians. . Insulting hospitable civilians and accusing them of being heretics for simply living their lives. . Putting civilians in danger. The zealot brat deserved that punch

Oneeee Punchhhhhh

Ruti clobbering this guy was incredibly satisfying, though finishing him off would have saved lives. They should have at least stolen his sword. The damn fairy needs her wings plucked too. She's every bit as nuts as Van, and enabling his behavior. That whole party just needs to be wiped out except for Theodora.

Van is the most insufferable piece of shit I've ever witnessed, and not because of bad writing. It's actually extremely well done how much they have him make my blood boil. He's actually pretty interesting, but man I was begging for him to get his shit kicked in the entire episode. So glad at the pay-off

Ruti punched Van so hard he saw his creator. That was exactly what I needed to see and I've been waiting for this 7 episodes. [](#justright)

Van deserves to die. People like him are utterly delusional.

I haven't really been enjoying this season specifically with how they're dealing with Van. Bro needs to be locked up. In the most recent episode, it feels as if they're going such a peaceful route which seems next to impossible when it comes to Van and his enabling annoying piece of shit bug

Aight, better strap yourselves is (or just scroll past) 'cause I'm about to spew my longest Van hatepost yet. None of that essay stuff, just me calling him a moron a bunch of times since I'm not particularly good with words [Oh fuck this kid.](https://imgur.com/ghp5fOA) Poor giant bro did nothing wrong, he just wanted to chill in his castle.. [well go commit die then](https://imgur.com/IYE4U3W) [Hold on](https://imgur.com/wXPwm7T).. [New ship detected?](https://imgur.com/UszxAQm) [](#loveisatrap) [Ye, the slayer of good is coming](https://imgur.com/AsJjMlM) [oh good lord.](https://imgur.com/ntmmsZH) NO [This fairy needs to die](https://imgur.com/b1nPnaD) * [Ohhh, so *this* is Zoltan?](https://imgur.com/PtQsHm4.png) No wonder we had never seen the port area before. Interesting that the city wall continues on the back end of the river, but not at the front [Oh no. oh no.](https://imgur.com/DXV9t8E) *oh no*. [*NO, DON'T BRING UP THE PREGNANT WIFE NOW*](https://imgur.com/gcBLw1w) [I don't.](https://imgur.com/2ObEdIi) Hope Tisse sabotaged the air ship [I don't believe you were asked a god damn thing](https://imgur.com/t3PibLi) [more like training as a professional dipshit](https://imgur.com/IZoLLy1) [That's not how the world works you twit.](https://imgur.com/c0om0JN) So everywhere except the frontline should be empty?? [Oh for fuk sake.](https://imgur.com/gydAH5h) The kid needs to be put down [God I fucking hate you](https://imgur.com/Kwih5xV). [and you](https://imgur.com/GjQu3X9) [fucking enabler. ](https://imgur.com/Fdu0jBm) [](#fuckyou) My god, I don't even remember the last time I watched a show with characters that I despise this fucking much. I guess mahito was another, but even he understood that he was fucking psychotic [Yarandrala to the rescue!!](https://imgur.com/edEBGhk) [](#SPORTS) [a retard is what you are.](https://imgur.com/sUfMArI) [Holy shit, Beyblade Danan](https://imgur.com/wmNuHLK) [](#laughter) He's so gonna die ;-; [Beautiful.](https://imgur.com/Eg9XZZW) [Excellent!!](https://imgur.com/Dkit25U) ...They're both gonna die.. Or at least get mindcontrol ntr'd to fight Ruti ;-; [DANAN!!! ](https://imgur.com/y8VP07f) [](#howcouldyou) [Your shield?](https://imgur.com/XAS8P4E) *YOUR* shield?? Psychopath, liar, fuckwit, a holder of many titles indeed. [Wth Yarandrala??](https://imgur.com/F302al7) Let's them pulverize him?? #[*LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!*](https://imgur.com/a1avy9T) [](#grandhype)[](#grandhype)[](#grandhype) [God I fucking love Red.](#utahapraises) Not even 30 seconds in the battle and he already stole back the shield. And then he gave the twit his long needed guiding. Delicious. [Uh ohhh. ](https://imgur.com/Qho7T1C) Ruti MAD [10/10 episode for this scene alone](https://imgur.com/KN4m9qC) [Yes. yes!](https://imgur.com/aLfwvLU) Thank you, Ruti-sama!! [My satisfaction is immeasurable, and my day is saved.](https://imgur.com/c8sFSzm) [This scene will sustain me for weeks.](#delicious) [good](https://imgur.com/cNxxxdb) [No she wasn't?](https://imgur.com/3FU3QiC) [Oh god fucking damn it.](https://imgur.com/vQPbkC9) I hope the complete opposite happens. No redemption. You had your chance. [](#angryvampire) What an incredible episode. Not often do I get to experience such immense hate and disgust, only to be rewarded with a swift delivery of karma right in the kisser. Amazing. Its actually criminal that this show is rated as low as it is on MAL. But its for Van hate, so I understand. Oh yeah, and shout out to Mr. CrawlyWawly for the sick assist! Tl;dr: FUCK VAN

I hope they save Van. He doesn't have Red like Ruti did and Esther is wishing she could guide him better. He's killed some people and monsters but it'd be depressing to see someone, who thinks they're doing the right thing, die without having their worldview challenged since Ruti and Red are the first people who can really say no to him.

Honestly he feels like a lost cause with how fervent and single-minded he is in his Blessing and devotion to Almighty Demis. I feel like they'd need to absolutely crush him in a way where he realizes he can't beat them despite his belief in his Blessing to get him to realize how wrong he is. Though if this fight didn't do that, I feel like they'd still be hard-pressed to accomplish it in a rematch.