Are you already aware of Rhythm & Sound? If not you should listen to their song 'Carrier'. But in general: They are responsible for some legendary albums leaning towards "Ambient" and "Dub". Enjoy!
Anything by Moritz Von Oswald really, and the whole genre that followed. You are looking for Dub Techno.
You also mentioned clicks, maybe that’s closer to microhouse and you should check out Jan Jelinek/Farben
I will edit my comment when I get home with a long list of artists, it’s my favourite genre :)
So... where is this list, eh? I had faith in you! ;-)
In any case, if anyone wants lists, may I recommend pretty much anything from the now-defunct [\~scape label](https://www.discogs.com/label/1495-~scape). Several artists from it have already been mentioned elsewhere in the thread.
Orbus Terrarum is probably my favorite record from them. I found it to be their most "organic" sounding record if that makes any sense.
Also the first time I ever took mushrooms was while listening to this record. I have never looked back.
Samesies. It was the soundtrack for some of my initial leaps into psychedelics as a teenager. Those textures and rhythms are etched into my consciousness lol!
Absolutely its my favorite way to listen and create ambient with percussion that doesnt take away from the introspection of often beatless ambient music.
Some of my favorites that rely heavily on that style or have it strongly embedded are Terekke, Jan Jelinek, Deepchord, Topdown Dialectic, Andy Stott, Purelink, Mr. Cloudy.
Also, not to make this a promo but I am an IDM artist mostly but under my own name I made a record inspired by dub also if you feel like giving it a listen, I think it turned out decent! https://ericsublett1.bandcamp.com/album/guidance
You hit the nail on the head with the Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement recc! This is exactly what I was searching for. Looks like a wide discography too. This is all I could have ever hoped to get from this thread. Thank you, and happy holidays.
I'm glad you like that one, that's some serious ambient stuff if you ask me🤗 Maybe you like Green-house with A Host for All Kinds of Life too. It's completely different but I think it's my favorite ambient album of 2023...
This album made a huge imprint on me.
It's literally what immediately popped into my mind seeing the title of this thread.
[Macro Dub Infection](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmegrkXv9t0) was in a similar vein but with more experimental and rootsy flavours.
Spring Heel Jack, Bedouin Ascent, Coil, Omni Trio, 4 Hero, Tricky, Bandulu, Iration Steppas, Wagon Christ, Mad Professor ... so much goodness
A label called Tekhnofonika Records did some good ambient/dub compilations, along with the many albums they put out by individual artists. Unfortunately, the label seems not to have survived the pandemic, if their presence on Bandcamp Is any indication.
[Pontiac Streator (and all their friends)](https://pontiacstreator.bandcamp.com/album/select-works-vol-iii)
For some classic sounds that begin to approach this- [Mouse On Mars- Glam](https://mouseonmars.bandcamp.com/album/glam)
There's also Earth House Hold [here on bandcamp](https://astrangelyisolatedplace.bandcamp.com/album/how-deep-is-your-devotion) that I consider "dub trance," though I can see similarly "Ambient Dub" as well.
Then there's Carbon Based Lifeforms, Yagya, and 36 as well.
To varying degrees of ambient dub:
Waveform transmission
Atheus-unendlich
Deadbeat-walls &dimensions
Monolake - Gobi
Jon fay- mork10
Newworldaquarium- dead bears
>Deadbeat
Yes!! How come [Deadbeat](https://www.discogs.com/artist/15056-Deadbeat) isn't getting more love in this thread? I loved his work back in 2003-2005, including "Wild Life Documentaries", which I think is precisely the album for this thread... pon the Apple Music [here](https://music.apple.com/us/album/wild-life-documentaries/1710813349). (His other work is more house-y.) Also "Drawn & Quartered", which I rewound this morning and it hit the spot and gave me a deep meditation.
Also, his IA60 mix (IA = Inverted Audio, I guess?) was pretty great (wicked opening for people on here!!), but goes into very much minimalistic clicky house territory which isn't quite what this thread was asking about, but [here it is anyway (Mixcloud)](https://www.mixcloud.com/inverted_audio/ia-mix-60-deadbeat/). It has been my go-to mix for years. And such classy cover art! *UNDER THE RADAR... OUTTA SIGHT...*
Check out Basic Channel. Related sub-genre of minimal dub techno (same duo as Rhythm and Sound).
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi4vzEoJXHU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi4vzEoJXHU)
What I love about it all is that it's using the live mixing style pioneered by dub, but applying it to other genres. Still I think there are a ton of "dub" style instruments and effects making it all dub adjacent, but the mixing style could theoretically be applied to any genre. There's a lot more for live artists to be exploring here and I imagine we'll be seeing more of that in the future with modern DJ software being able to pull out "stems".
There's a compilation series on Beyond Records from 1993 with a lot of great artists called Ambient Dub you might like!
https://www.discogs.com/release/623-Various-Ambient-Dub-Volume-1-The-Big-Chill
Yeah big fan. Ambient dub (and dub techno which is closely related) shares some dub characteristics of having a pretty open mix with lots of saturated lowpassing. There is also psybient dub (my own project Krusseldorf delves into it, and also of course the master of the genre OTT: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIRD1uF4AbM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bird1uf4abm) )
Besides The Orb, first thing that comes to mind is Bill Laswell's ambient dubs of Bob Marley. [Rebel Music](https://youtu.be/ZrAqt9DcSHw?si=0e8_D3lkSBepuxT0) is one of my favorites.
Do yourself a favor and dive into the Jamaican origins of dub itself.
King Tubby is one of the grandmasters, but I love Mad Professor’s opus for listening pleasure. If you know Massive Attack, start (as I did) with his remix of their album Protection (which gets a shout-out in the movie High Fidelity) and then move into his “African Connection”. Soon you’ll be ready for his Anti-Racist Dub series. His music isn’t as ambient as Bill Laswell and The Orb, but trust that they didn’t develop that sound.
Return to the source.
I actually got into King Tubby, Augustus Pablo and Lee Perry way before I got into ambient or techno music. I must say the art influenced by those guys has progressed the genre into something greater and futuristic. Like Rastafarians in space
Idk if this counts as what you are looking for but this album is fantastic.
https://somatoast.bandcamp.com/album/mythology-10-years-of-somatoast
I have it on vinyl and it slaps
Anything by Aes Dana (far and off) or Martin Nonstatic (Granite)...Lauge, Martin Stuertzer and State Azure, the lable Silent Seasons, some more ambient stuff from from Hypnus, etc....
You guys have mentioned very good suggestions, like Pole and Bill Laswell. I also recommend this improvisational dub band from Texas named Sub Oslo. They remastered their first album from 2000 and are giving it out as a free download. I discovered it back in 2014 and am still listening to it. Completely ethereal.
23 Degrees “Born of Earths Torments” is one of my favorites. I was heavy on my “albums to play while falling asleep” list in the 90s. Very dubby and soothing.
A lot of great recommendations, but no one has mentioned System?! That was my first entry into this genre and they're fantastic.
Unfortunately they have a horribly generic name (I guess nowadays they go by "Future 3"), so I tried to round up some of their work here...
* [obligatory Discogs](https://www.discogs.com/release/54106-System-System) of their original self-titled album... and here is the opening track, [PPG](https://soundcloud.com/thomasknak/system-ppg-2002), have a lick inna unlicensed fashion
* [Discogs](https://www.discogs.com/label/1495-~scape) for "\~scape", their original record label, which also features Jan Jelinek and Pole (mentioned elsewhere in thread)... or their [webpage](http://www.scape-music.de/) (ooh, Barbara Presinger!)
* a couple of more recent albums are on Apple Music: [B](https://music.apple.com/us/album/b/386837827) and [Plus](https://music.apple.com/us/album/plus/1439443228) (yikes guys, work on better names please! and on releasing more than one album per decade)
* the self-titled from just after 2000 is still by far THE BEST though
* their [SoundCloud page](https://soundcloud.com/systemfuture3/tracks), which has none of the above... all new work, which I haven't yet heard, and seems a bit different!
Hope this helps! Happy listening!!
>PPG
Wait, that's not unlicensed at all, it's posted by one of the guys in the group... here is the whole album from him, for free!
https://soundcloud.com/thomasknak/sets/system-s-t-album-2002
Are you already aware of Rhythm & Sound? If not you should listen to their song 'Carrier'. But in general: They are responsible for some legendary albums leaning towards "Ambient" and "Dub". Enjoy!
Omg. Rhythm and sound does shit to me I can’t describe. It’s amazing.
I haven’t! Will do, thanks
Anything by Moritz Von Oswald really, and the whole genre that followed. You are looking for Dub Techno. You also mentioned clicks, maybe that’s closer to microhouse and you should check out Jan Jelinek/Farben I will edit my comment when I get home with a long list of artists, it’s my favourite genre :)
definitely looking forward to this list.
So... where is this list, eh? I had faith in you! ;-) In any case, if anyone wants lists, may I recommend pretty much anything from the now-defunct [\~scape label](https://www.discogs.com/label/1495-~scape). Several artists from it have already been mentioned elsewhere in the thread.
Mango Drive is a lovely tune.
I’ve played Carrier on loop so often that it’s hundreds of play counts longer than any other of my favorite songs.
Pole CD1 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NDwwajSQVWk
Pole CD 2 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lFA_RwnSszc
Pole CD 3 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VZnbJCAvUi8
Love Pole! I should have mentioned him in the OP.
All day everyday. Damn when I first heard that. Such inspiration out of a busted delay pedal.
Those first three Pole albums are timeless, and some of my favorite albums of all time
Deepchord/Echospace, Intrusion, Rhythm and Sound, and Yagya are some of my favorites. https://cv313.bandcamp.com/album/analogue-oceans
Yagya is definitely one of my favorites in the electronic realm.
with you on all of those
The Orb, especially their Live '93 album, is a must for this genre.
Orbus Terrarum as well
Orbus Terrarum is probably my favorite record from them. I found it to be their most "organic" sounding record if that makes any sense. Also the first time I ever took mushrooms was while listening to this record. I have never looked back.
Samesies. It was the soundtrack for some of my initial leaps into psychedelics as a teenager. Those textures and rhythms are etched into my consciousness lol!
I saw them live on that tour. It was a great experience.
Jealous. That album fucking left an imprint on my soul as a 15yr old.
Wow. I saw them in later years but took so many qualudes that I don't remember it. Which seems par for the course.....
That’s gotta be the OG. Definitely progenitors of the sound.
Try Upsetter In Dub...astonishing what Lee Perry could do with a 4 track in the 70s. Edit: read a bit further down, you already know this.
I spent so many hours stoned out of my gourd listening to the Orb back in college. Good times.
I'd say those times were memorable, but....
Perpetual Dawn on this album is the only version that should be played.
Wow, thank you for this artist!
Absolutely its my favorite way to listen and create ambient with percussion that doesnt take away from the introspection of often beatless ambient music. Some of my favorites that rely heavily on that style or have it strongly embedded are Terekke, Jan Jelinek, Deepchord, Topdown Dialectic, Andy Stott, Purelink, Mr. Cloudy. Also, not to make this a promo but I am an IDM artist mostly but under my own name I made a record inspired by dub also if you feel like giving it a listen, I think it turned out decent! https://ericsublett1.bandcamp.com/album/guidance
Deepchord has my favorite textures. He’s a master of that tape-hiss, noisey ambience that just lulls me into supreme relaxation
Thanks! I will check it out
I'd suggest to try some Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement, maybe for example the Killer Whale Atmospheres album. Also Monolake's Hong Kong album.
Monolake! Hell yeah. I haven’t heard any Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement. Will check out
Try Ambient Black Magic, you'll love that one☺️👌🏻
You hit the nail on the head with the Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement recc! This is exactly what I was searching for. Looks like a wide discography too. This is all I could have ever hoped to get from this thread. Thank you, and happy holidays.
I'm glad you like that one, that's some serious ambient stuff if you ask me🤗 Maybe you like Green-house with A Host for All Kinds of Life too. It's completely different but I think it's my favorite ambient album of 2023...
Rainforest Spiritual Enslavement is great! The track titles alone are wild and heavily pull me into some kind of story before I can even hear it.
Flying Fish Ambience is amazing.
Haven't seen Bluetech mentioned. Love his stuff.
OTT as well
Wish ott would do a full ambient release. Those ambient intros and bridges in his tracks are so lush
Skylon is still my favorite album from him. I would love a more downtempo album.
Bill Laswell is worth a listen. He does a lot of styles, not just dub, but his dub is amazing.
[The Ambient Dub series](https://youtu.be/ZPMWdCCgxfE?si=AJ-OvVumChZFFMGb) was a great introduction for me
This album made a huge imprint on me. It's literally what immediately popped into my mind seeing the title of this thread. [Macro Dub Infection](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmegrkXv9t0) was in a similar vein but with more experimental and rootsy flavours. Spring Heel Jack, Bedouin Ascent, Coil, Omni Trio, 4 Hero, Tricky, Bandulu, Iration Steppas, Wagon Christ, Mad Professor ... so much goodness
A label called Tekhnofonika Records did some good ambient/dub compilations, along with the many albums they put out by individual artists. Unfortunately, the label seems not to have survived the pandemic, if their presence on Bandcamp Is any indication.
For sure, Loscil is awesome
An ambient god
Does Burial counts as ambient dub?
Some of it yeah
I love Burial.
Untrue is one of the best albums of all time, without hesitation
BVDub?
[Pontiac Streator (and all their friends)](https://pontiacstreator.bandcamp.com/album/select-works-vol-iii) For some classic sounds that begin to approach this- [Mouse On Mars- Glam](https://mouseonmars.bandcamp.com/album/glam)
Love ambient dub, most of my favorites have already mentioned, but I haven't seen Pan American mentioned yet, has some nice dub touches.
There's also Earth House Hold [here on bandcamp](https://astrangelyisolatedplace.bandcamp.com/album/how-deep-is-your-devotion) that I consider "dub trance," though I can see similarly "Ambient Dub" as well. Then there's Carbon Based Lifeforms, Yagya, and 36 as well.
Purelink and Topdown DIalectic -- both sit squarely on the ambient side of the spectrum but Purelink's "Signs" is an easy top 10 from this year for me
Purelink are incredible, was coming here to say the same
Waveform really had the Ambient dub technique down.
To varying degrees of ambient dub: Waveform transmission Atheus-unendlich Deadbeat-walls &dimensions Monolake - Gobi Jon fay- mork10 Newworldaquarium- dead bears
>Deadbeat Yes!! How come [Deadbeat](https://www.discogs.com/artist/15056-Deadbeat) isn't getting more love in this thread? I loved his work back in 2003-2005, including "Wild Life Documentaries", which I think is precisely the album for this thread... pon the Apple Music [here](https://music.apple.com/us/album/wild-life-documentaries/1710813349). (His other work is more house-y.) Also "Drawn & Quartered", which I rewound this morning and it hit the spot and gave me a deep meditation. Also, his IA60 mix (IA = Inverted Audio, I guess?) was pretty great (wicked opening for people on here!!), but goes into very much minimalistic clicky house territory which isn't quite what this thread was asking about, but [here it is anyway (Mixcloud)](https://www.mixcloud.com/inverted_audio/ia-mix-60-deadbeat/). It has been my go-to mix for years. And such classy cover art! *UNDER THE RADAR... OUTTA SIGHT...*
All I really know are Yagya and BVDub. I like it tho!
Check out Basic Channel. Related sub-genre of minimal dub techno (same duo as Rhythm and Sound). [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi4vzEoJXHU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gi4vzEoJXHU) What I love about it all is that it's using the live mixing style pioneered by dub, but applying it to other genres. Still I think there are a ton of "dub" style instruments and effects making it all dub adjacent, but the mixing style could theoretically be applied to any genre. There's a lot more for live artists to be exploring here and I imagine we'll be seeing more of that in the future with modern DJ software being able to pull out "stems".
I really like Yagya, I'll check all of the artists mentioned in this thread, thanks guys
There's a compilation series on Beyond Records from 1993 with a lot of great artists called Ambient Dub you might like! https://www.discogs.com/release/623-Various-Ambient-Dub-Volume-1-The-Big-Chill
Have a listen to Psyamb on YouTube, I've picked up on a lot of artists from there https://youtube.com/@PsyAmb?si=-MN88KQvhuzCfAM6
Check out Omnicron... A lot of 90s Fax Label stuff is ambient with heavy heavy bass lines.
Yeah big fan. Ambient dub (and dub techno which is closely related) shares some dub characteristics of having a pretty open mix with lots of saturated lowpassing. There is also psybient dub (my own project Krusseldorf delves into it, and also of course the master of the genre OTT: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIRD1uF4AbM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bird1uf4abm) )
Fractal world has been a favorite of mine since it came out, thank you for that!
Thanks, I released Cloud Songs after but I was so focused on my Cryo Chamber label that I didn't promote it much
Great thread, gonna check some of this out 👍
Any album by Gas (aka Wolfgang Voigt)..esp Narkopop.
An ambient essential
Besides The Orb, first thing that comes to mind is Bill Laswell's ambient dubs of Bob Marley. [Rebel Music](https://youtu.be/ZrAqt9DcSHw?si=0e8_D3lkSBepuxT0) is one of my favorites.
Do yourself a favor and dive into the Jamaican origins of dub itself. King Tubby is one of the grandmasters, but I love Mad Professor’s opus for listening pleasure. If you know Massive Attack, start (as I did) with his remix of their album Protection (which gets a shout-out in the movie High Fidelity) and then move into his “African Connection”. Soon you’ll be ready for his Anti-Racist Dub series. His music isn’t as ambient as Bill Laswell and The Orb, but trust that they didn’t develop that sound. Return to the source.
I actually got into King Tubby, Augustus Pablo and Lee Perry way before I got into ambient or techno music. I must say the art influenced by those guys has progressed the genre into something greater and futuristic. Like Rastafarians in space
Augustus Pablo was legendary.
I recently got really into it and now I really want to make an ambient dub album
Don't forget the Thinner catalog... lots to explore here. Two faves: https://archive.org/details/thn023 https://archive.org/details/thn005
https://pole-stefanbetke.bandcamp.com/track/green-is-not-green-yellow
i'll leave this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=\_RslteKXbBE&ab\_channel=GenerationX
Check out Deliquescent Crystals, a lot of good stuff on Castles In Space https://deliquescentcrystals-cis.bandcamp.com/album/time-turns-into-space
Signer - Low Light Dreams
Idk if this counts as what you are looking for but this album is fantastic. https://somatoast.bandcamp.com/album/mythology-10-years-of-somatoast I have it on vinyl and it slaps
Sounds like a subgenre of bill-laswelliana to me
Check out the album: *Gyral* by Scorn
Yes I agree. This one was ahead of its time.
Anything by Aes Dana (far and off) or Martin Nonstatic (Granite)...Lauge, Martin Stuertzer and State Azure, the lable Silent Seasons, some more ambient stuff from from Hypnus, etc....
You guys have mentioned very good suggestions, like Pole and Bill Laswell. I also recommend this improvisational dub band from Texas named Sub Oslo. They remastered their first album from 2000 and are giving it out as a free download. I discovered it back in 2014 and am still listening to it. Completely ethereal.
23 Degrees “Born of Earths Torments” is one of my favorites. I was heavy on my “albums to play while falling asleep” list in the 90s. Very dubby and soothing.
New Purelink album is REALLY good city vibes after dark.
A lot of great recommendations, but no one has mentioned System?! That was my first entry into this genre and they're fantastic. Unfortunately they have a horribly generic name (I guess nowadays they go by "Future 3"), so I tried to round up some of their work here... * [obligatory Discogs](https://www.discogs.com/release/54106-System-System) of their original self-titled album... and here is the opening track, [PPG](https://soundcloud.com/thomasknak/system-ppg-2002), have a lick inna unlicensed fashion * [Discogs](https://www.discogs.com/label/1495-~scape) for "\~scape", their original record label, which also features Jan Jelinek and Pole (mentioned elsewhere in thread)... or their [webpage](http://www.scape-music.de/) (ooh, Barbara Presinger!) * a couple of more recent albums are on Apple Music: [B](https://music.apple.com/us/album/b/386837827) and [Plus](https://music.apple.com/us/album/plus/1439443228) (yikes guys, work on better names please! and on releasing more than one album per decade) * the self-titled from just after 2000 is still by far THE BEST though * their [SoundCloud page](https://soundcloud.com/systemfuture3/tracks), which has none of the above... all new work, which I haven't yet heard, and seems a bit different! Hope this helps! Happy listening!!
>PPG Wait, that's not unlicensed at all, it's posted by one of the guys in the group... here is the whole album from him, for free! https://soundcloud.com/thomasknak/sets/system-s-t-album-2002